Re: [DX-CHAT] the sad story of South Sudan - a new country after 2011?

2009-08-16 Thread Zack Widup

Not to make light of the strife and trouble going on there, but I wonder if
a deleted country can be reinstated? I have ST0 South Sudan as a deleted
entity.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:19 AM, DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.comwrote:


   Clip from today's Sunday Telegraph


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/sudan/6034690/South-Sudan-faces-new-war-over-oil.html

 It seems that some things never change.  I've frequently heard an argument
 that the worst thing that the old colonial powers did was to put Africans in
 charge of Africa.  It's not an opinion that I hold (actually I think it was
 just done badly), but examples that spring to mind are the chaos and
 bloodshed in Rwanda, Burundi, Nigeria/Biafra, Ghana, Sudan, Sierra Leone,
 Angola, Somalia, Eritrea, Zaire, Western Sahara, Central African Republic
 etc ... and of course the biggest basket case of the all: Zimbabwe, once the
 bread basket of Africa and now what?

 It does make me wonder whether the current outbreak of troubles in Southern
 Sudan is just tribal squabbling.  Conspiracy theorists (and those who know
 how China operates) may point the finger in their direction, particularly if
 there's oil and other mineral resuorce at stake.  As we know, the Chinese
 have no morals when it comes to dealing anyone who'll sell them what they
 need at a knock-down price

 I wonder if the referendum of independence for South Sudan will really go
 ahead?  One thing's for certain:  It'll be a brave bunch of guys who mount a
 DXpedition there!

 food for thought, eh?

 cheers

 Dave G0OIL

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Re: [DX-CHAT] the sad story of South Sudan - a new country after 2011?

2009-08-16 Thread GERRY
 

The deleted entity was Southern Sudan (ST0). The article refers to southern 
Sudan (southern not capitalize) which appears to refer to the south of the DXCC 
entity ST.

Gerry
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Zack Widup 
  To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] the sad story of South Sudan - a new country after 
2011?




  Not to make light of the strife and trouble going on there, but I wonder if a 
deleted country can be reinstated? I have ST0 South Sudan as a deleted entity.

  73, Zack W9SZ


  On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:19 AM, DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com wrote:


  Clip from today's Sunday Telegraph


  
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/sudan/6034690/South-Sudan-faces-new-war-over-oil.html


  It seems that some things never change.  I've frequently heard an 
argument that the worst thing that the old colonial powers did was to put 
Africans in charge of Africa.  It's not an opinion that I hold (actually I 
think it was just done badly), but examples that spring to mind are the chaos 
and bloodshed in Rwanda, Burundi, Nigeria/Biafra, Ghana, Sudan, Sierra Leone, 
Angola, Somalia, Eritrea, Zaire, Western Sahara, Central African Republic etc 
... and of course the biggest basket case of the all: Zimbabwe, once the bread 
basket of Africa and now what?


  It does make me wonder whether the current outbreak of troubles in 
Southern Sudan is just tribal squabbling.  Conspiracy theorists (and those who 
know how China operates) may point the finger in their direction, particularly 
if there's oil and other mineral resuorce at stake.  As we know, the Chinese 
have no morals when it comes to dealing anyone who'll sell them what they need 
at a knock-down price


  I wonder if the referendum of independence for South Sudan will 
really go ahead?  One thing's for certain:  It'll be a brave bunch of guys who 
mount a DXpedition there!


  food for thought, eh?


  cheers


  Dave G0OIL 

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Re: [DX-CHAT] the sad story of South Sudan - a new country after 2011?

2009-08-16 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C


On 8/16/2009 12:52 PM, Zack Widup wrote:


Not to make light of the strife and trouble going on there, but I wonder
if a deleted country can be reinstated? I have ST0 South Sudan as a
deleted entity.
73, Zack W9SZ


I think Eritrea did something like that, it was off the list for a 
while, then back on.


- Jim

p.s. violence in Yemen around the same time that 7O1YGF was approved. 
Be thankful when you're operating from your home station.


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RE: [DX-CHAT] the sad story of South Sudan - a new country after 2011?

2009-08-16 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN

It's happened before (Western Sahara).  We've also had new entities replace
deleted ones (East Timor) when they weren't judged to be exactly the same.  

 

We can worry about it if and when the proper time to do so comes about.  

 

  _  

From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Zack Widup
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:52 PM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] the sad story of South Sudan - a new country after
2011?

 

 

Not to make light of the strife and trouble going on there, but I wonder if
a deleted country can be reinstated? I have ST0 South Sudan as a deleted
entity.

 

73, Zack W9SZ

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:19 AM, DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com
wrote:

 


Clip from today's Sunday Telegraph

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/sudan/6034690
/South-Sudan-faces-new-war-over-oil.html

 

It seems that some things never change.  I've frequently heard an argument
that the worst thing that the old colonial powers did was to put Africans in
charge of Africa.  It's not an opinion that I hold (actually I think it was
just done badly), but examples that spring to mind are the chaos and
bloodshed in Rwanda, Burundi, Nigeria/Biafra, Ghana, Sudan, Sierra Leone,
Angola, Somalia, Eritrea, Zaire, Western Sahara, Central African Republic
etc ... and of course the biggest basket case of the all: Zimbabwe, once the
bread basket of Africa and now what?

 

It does make me wonder whether the current outbreak of troubles in Southern
Sudan is just tribal squabbling.  Conspiracy theorists (and those who know
how China operates) may point the finger in their direction, particularly if
there's oil and other mineral resuorce at stake.  As we know, the Chinese
have no morals when it comes to dealing anyone who'll sell them what they
need at a knock-down price

 

I wonder if the referendum of independence for South Sudan will really go
ahead?  One thing's for certain:  It'll be a brave bunch of guys who mount a
DXpedition there!

 

food for thought, eh?

 

cheers

 

Dave G0OIL


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