Re: [DX-NEWS] Fwd: [The Daily DX] Kosovo Press Release # 1 February 16, 2008

2008-02-16 Thread Paul Pescitelli
yeah, I posted a news blog link within 5 minutes of receiving it...

On Feb 16, 2008 11:52 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





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 Kosovo Press Release # 1 February 16, 2008

 A multi-national group of Amateur Radio operators is now in Kosovo in an
 effort to support and help revitalize Amateur Radio locally.  The initial
 team members will begin activity today.  Activity will be on all bands on CW
 and SSB.  Look for YU8/G3TXF, YU8/N7NG, YU8/OH2BH, YU8/OH2PM, YU8/ON8NC and
 YU8/W3UR.  More details will be released when available.  QSL via the
 operator's home callsign.

 PS - The above release may be forward


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Re: [DX-NEWS] Fwd: [The Daily DX] Kosovo Press Release # 1 February 16, 2008

2008-02-16 Thread Peter Dougherty
Do we know yet if Kosovo will receive DXCC status once their 
Declaration of Independence has been announced unilaterally? Does it 
not require UN approval before it achieves new-one status? 
Considering that Russia has stated it will block any attempts with 
its Security Council veto, I don't see this as being anything other 
than an amateur goodwill mission, if that's the case.


Have there been any further developments that may make this one 
officially count as a new one for us?


At 12:13 PM 2/16/2008, Paul Pescitelli wrote:

yeah, I posted a news blog link within 5 minutes of receiving it...

 Subj: [The Daily DX] Kosovo Press Release # 1 February 16, 2008


 Kosovo Press Release # 1 February 16, 2008







Regards,

Peter,
W2IRT 




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RE: [DX-NEWS] Fwd: [The Daily DX] Kosovo Press Release # 1 February 16, 2008

2008-02-16 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 Do we know yet if Kosovo will receive DXCC status once their 
 Declaration of Independence has been announced unilaterally? Does it 
 not require UN approval before it achieves new-one status?

To become a political entity (Point 1) under DXC rules an 
entity needs to meet one of three criteria: 

1) Membership in the (General Assembly of the) United Nations 

2) to be assigned a prefix block by the ITU (e.g., Palestine) 

3) to be included on either the U.N. list of Non-Self-Governing 
   Territories (www.un.org/depts/dpi/decolonization/trust3.htm) 
   or the US Department of State list of Dependencies and Areas 
   of Special Sovereignty  (www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm).

If the US and 100 other countries are prepared to recognize 
Kosovo as independent I would expect the ITU will assign a 
prefix block (YZA-YZZ perhaps? - since it was just released 
by Serbia, ITU could use it as a 'compromise' with Serbia and 
Russia).   In any case, if the Department of State and the EU 
recognize Kosovo's Declaration of Independence, you can bet 
the Department of State will add Kosovo to the Special 
Sovereignty list at the earliest opportunity. 

However, Kosovo will not be added to the DXCC list until one 
of the Event triggers takes place.  Even if Kosovo declare 
independence, QSOs will not count for a new one until one 
of the three events take place.  This is just like FJ ... the 
law establishing the new status was passed in the spring but 
they were not added to the DXCC list until they showed up on 
the Department of State list on December 14. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
  



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 Subject: Re: [DX-NEWS] Fwd: [The Daily DX] Kosovo Press 
 Release # 1 February 16, 2008
 
 
 Do we know yet if Kosovo will receive DXCC status once their 
 Declaration of Independence has been announced unilaterally? Does it 
 not require UN approval before it achieves new-one status? 
 Considering that Russia has stated it will block any attempts with 
 its Security Council veto, I don't see this as being anything other 
 than an amateur goodwill mission, if that's the case.
 
 Have there been any further developments that may make this one 
 officially count as a new one for us?
 
 At 12:13 PM 2/16/2008, Paul Pescitelli wrote:
 yeah, I posted a news blog link within 5 minutes of receiving it...
 
   Subj: [The Daily DX] Kosovo Press Release # 1 February 16, 2008
  
  
   Kosovo Press Release # 1 February 16, 2008
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Peter,
 W2IRT 
 



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RE: [DX-NEWS] Fwd: [The Daily DX] Kosovo Press Release # 1 February 16, 2008

2008-02-16 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
--- Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 3) to be included on either the U.N. list of Non-Self-Governing 
Territories (www.un.org/depts/dpi/decolonization/trust3.htm) 
or the US Department of State list of Dependencies and Areas 
of Special Sovereignty  (www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm).

I don't believe this section applies, because Kosovo is declaring political
independence.  The full DXCC rule is:

c) The Entity contains a permanent population, is administered by a local
government, and is located at least 800 km from its parent. To satisfy the
permanent population and administered by a local government criteria of
this sub-section, an Entity must be listed on either (a) the U.S. Department of
State's list of Dependencies and Areas of Special Sovereignty as having a
local Administrative Center, or (b) the United Nations list of
Non-Self-Governing Territories.

There will be no parent in this case.

73 - Jim AD1C


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RE: [DX-NEWS] Fwd: [The Daily DX] Kosovo Press Release # 1 February 16, 2008

2008-02-16 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
 
Jim, 

  3) to be included on either the U.N. list of Non-Self-Governing 
 Territories (www.un.org/depts/dpi/decolonization/trust3.htm) 
 or the US Department of State list of Dependencies and Areas 
 of Special Sovereignty  (www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm).
 
 I don't believe this section applies, because Kosovo is 
 declaring political independence.  The full DXCC rule is:

That section may not apply - if it does the 800 km provision 
would probably invalidate the use of the UN and DOS lists anyway. 

If Russia uses a veto in the Security Council to prevent Kosovo 
from gaining a seat in the General Assembly the only other avenue 
for addition to the DXCC list would be action by the ITU as in 
the case of Palestine.   

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


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 Subject: RE: [DX-NEWS] Fwd: [The Daily DX] Kosovo Press 
 Release # 1 February 16, 2008
 
 
 --- Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  3) to be included on either the U.N. list of Non-Self-Governing 
 Territories (www.un.org/depts/dpi/decolonization/trust3.htm) 
 or the US Department of State list of Dependencies and Areas 
 of Special Sovereignty  (www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm).
 
 I don't believe this section applies, because Kosovo is 
 declaring political independence.  The full DXCC rule is:
 
 c) The Entity contains a permanent population, is 
 administered by a local
 government, and is located at least 800 km from its parent. 
 To satisfy the
 permanent population and administered by a local 
 government criteria of
 this sub-section, an Entity must be listed on either (a) the 
 U.S. Department of
 State's list of Dependencies and Areas of Special 
 Sovereignty as having a
 local Administrative Center, or (b) the United Nations list of
 Non-Self-Governing Territories.
 
 There will be no parent in this case.
 
 73 - Jim AD1C
 
 
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