[Dx4win] Fwd: Re: Unexpected "Unlicensed Demo Version, Can't Save" problem
Mel, agree. Greg, you may not call it a bug, because it is somewhat intentional, but it is a improper way to implement a protection schema. I am from the software industry and I would have endless problems with customers if my application would lead them to loose data. My 2 cents Fred PY2XB On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:36:37 -0400, Mel wrote: > No... it is the programmer's responsibility to protect you from this. > Paul made the decision to protect his software by the Draconian measure > of disallowing saves. It should be absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for a > registered user to find themselves in this situation where the loss of > data is inevitable! > > Gregory Brown wrote: >> Hi Mel, >> >> I can understand your frustration, but if the "demo mode" problem I had >> actually was caused by my inadvertently opening two sessions of the >> program simultaneously, I wouldn't be so quick to call it a DX4WIN >> bug...it's probably more of an operator-error, Windows system-error >> issue, which I intend to avoid assiduously in the future! If, on the >> other hand, the same thing happens spontaneously without any apparent >> provocation, then perhaps it would be (was?) something Paul could fix. >> Personally, this is the first time I've ever experienced this in many, >> many years of using DX4WIN...so I've never seen it happen without the >> double-open, operator-goof that I just performed. And the loss of data >> was my own fault. A simple hit of the "Print Screen" key would have >> saved an image of my displayed log which I could have re-entered. >> >> DX4WIN is still at the top of my list of logging programs, no question. >> >> Greg KTØK >> >> >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Mel [mailto:ve...@videotron.ca] >>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 10:01 AM >>> To: Gregory Brown >>> Cc: dx4win@mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Unexpected "Unlicensed Demo Version, >>> Can't Save" problem >>> >>> >>> If that's the bug that plagued ver 7... you could not have >>> "saved" your >>> log... once in "demo mode" DX4Win will not allow you to save or even >>> export your log which only resides in memory. I am truly >>> sorry to hear >>> this bug still exists. In ver 7 this bug would rarely manifest itself >>> without any operator error. It may not happen often (twice in about 5 >>> years for me) but it results in lost data which is intolerable. I had >>> suggested that Paul create a transaction log to recover from such >>> problems, but it wasn't implemented in ver 8. Personally... if I lose >>> data one more time with DX4Win... I'm done with it... nonetheless I >>> remain hopeful. >>> >>> Mel, VE2DC >>> >>> Gregory Brown wrote: >>>> This likely isn't a bug, but is something to be aware of. >>>> >>>> Yesterday upon exiting DX4WIN 8.02 and answering "yes" to the "Log >>>> Modified, Do You Want to Save" dialog box, I received the error >>>> message that I was using an unlicensed demo version and the log >>>> couldn't be saved. Very stupidly thinking it meant nothing >>> because I >>>> knew it was licensed, my finger reflex hit the exit button and >>>> zap...the day's QSO's were gone. >>>> >>>> The only thing odd about this logging session was that it >>> began with >>>> me double-clicking a DX4WIN shortcut icon in my quick-start >>> bar (which >>>> should have been single-clicked) and two DX4WIN sessions >>> tried to open >>>> at the same time. One failed (giving an error message) and >>> I exited. >>>> The other one started successfully so I simply left that >>> one running >>>> and used it. >>>> >>>> Assuming this was the cause of the "unlicensed demo >>> version" warning, >>>> I have some suggestions: 1. If you are a habitual double-clicker, >>>> eliminate your quick-start single-click shortcuts. >>>> 2. If you accidently start two sessions simultaneously, >>> exit BOTH and >>>> start again. Then test the session you are using to make sure it >>>> recognizes your license. >>>> 3. If your computer tells you something, LISTEN! Just >>> because YOU know >>>> something doesn't mean
Re: [Dx4win] Unexpected "Unlicensed Demo Version, Can't Save" problem
Greg This is a known glitch that occured to me in all dx4win versions including version 7. I am not using version 8. Once I lost a huge batch of qsos. This tragic experience made me wiser, but eventually I have got to the DEMO state again. It surpises me that this has not yet been addressed. It is a terrible glitch because one looses data. There are another matter that should be addressed b4 long which is the correct soundcard support for newer windows OS. I tend to keep DX4WIN because I think it is a good pice of software. However, one glitch here another glitch there that are never addressed, will result to a pile of problems. Sooner than later people will have enough reasons to migrate to another logging software. Avoid the double clicking and check the left up corner of DX windown every time you open DX4WIN. You must see your call and name displayed. Fred PY2XB On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:23:18 -0500, "Gregory Brown" wrote: > This likely isn't a bug, but is something to be aware of. > > Yesterday upon exiting DX4WIN 8.02 and answering "yes" to the "Log > Modified, Do You Want to Save" dialog box, I received the error message > that I was using an unlicensed demo version and the log couldn't be > saved. Very stupidly thinking it meant nothing because I knew it was > licensed, my finger reflex hit the exit button and zap...the day's QSO's > were gone. > > The only thing odd about this logging session was that it began with me > double-clicking a DX4WIN shortcut icon in my quick-start bar (which > should have been single-clicked) and two DX4WIN sessions tried to open > at the same time. One failed (giving an error message) and I exited. > The other one started successfully so I simply left that one running and > used it. > > Assuming this was the cause of the "unlicensed demo version" warning, I > have some suggestions: > 1. If you are a habitual double-clicker, eliminate your quick-start > single-click shortcuts. > 2. If you accidently start two sessions simultaneously, exit BOTH and > start again. Then test the session you are using to make sure it > recognizes your license. > 3. If your computer tells you something, LISTEN! Just because YOU know > something doesn't mean your computer does! > 4. If you get the "demo version, can't save log" message, don't ignore > it...make a hard copy of your changes before exiting, either by > capturing a screen dump or by printing the modified portion of your log > (if the program lets you). > > > 5. If you contacted KTØK on late 18 October thru early 19 October UTC, > drop me an email with the QSO info!! > > Greg KTØK > > > __ > Dx4win mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: DX4WIN PSK & Vista
Ok John. Thanks for the input The buit-in soundcard has many input and outputs. The external USB one has also some in and outs. Vista threats them as several INs and OUTs. Unfortunately DX4WIN is not treating them individually. I did not know it happens to Windows XP too. My previous computer was a Windows 2003 and my notebook is a XP, but both with a single and simple soundcards. It deos not to seem good. I may need to use another program for PSK or another logging program that has all sorted out. Regards Fred On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:06:48 +1200, "John Shaw" wrote: > XP does this too. > > I think the issue may be out board sound cards using different input output > numbers. I note that MMTTY has the capability to specify different I/O > numbers for the sound card. I haven't looked at what enhancements have > been > made in this area in V8 but it may well be an area that needs upgrading as > new hardware becomes more popular in use. > > One way around this may be to assign your out board, USB? Sound card as the > default in the OS but this could raise the problem of other sounds being > played on air which is not a good thing. > > 73 John ZL1BYZ. > > -Original Message- > From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] > On Behalf Of py...@integral.com.br > Sent: Monday, 21 September 2009 3:42 a.m. > To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Dx4win] Fwd: Re: DX4WIN PSK & Vista > > > Hi Jim > > Always good to hear from you. > > Yes, indeed I am running DX4WIN as administrator all the time. > > I guess the big issue is that the sondcard0, 1, 2.. is good for Windows XP > but not for Vista. Vista applications must choose specific inputs/outputs > and not soundcards. > > Just as an exemple, I have moved MMTY from XP to Vista as well. In the new > MMTY version that supports soundcard correctly on Vista, you can choose the > input sound source and the output you use. MMTY works perfectly. > I guess DX4WIN would need to do the same thing. > > If there is not any fix or the due implementation on the newer version, it > is likely PSK window will not work correct in a given hardware. > > This is a shame because I like DX4WIN so much. Whether we like or not > DX4WIN > must keep up with the current windows versions or it will be outdated soon. > > I still have a hope there is a fix or a work around. > > Fred > > On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:03:48 -0600, Jim Reisert AD1C > wrote: >> Have you tried running DX4WIN as administrator when you make the PSK >> configuration changes? >> >> 73 - Jim AD1C >> >> On 9/20/2009 7:43 AM, py...@integral.com.br wrote: >>> Hello. I need some help on this >>> >>> I recently moved to Windows Vista. DX4WIN is working ok except by PSK >>> windown. BTW I am using version 7.07.02 >>> >>> I have the built in soundcard in the computer as well as an external >>> soundcard. I need to use the external soundcard for PSK, once the >>> built-in in set up for other applications. >>> Unfortunately DX4WIN just allows you to set soundcard number and not >>> soundcard inputs/ouputs. So even though I set for SOINDCARD1 in >>> preferences , it keeps on picking different input and output devices >>> every time I open the program. >>> >>> Eventually I make it work but I really don't know exactly what to do > next >>> nite I enter in the program. >>> >>> I am wondering if someone could bring some light to this matter >>> and/or > if >>> this is corrected in the 8.X vewrsion. >>> >>> Thanks and regards Fred > __ > Dx4win mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > __ > Dx4win mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] Fwd: Re: DX4WIN PSK & Vista
Hi Jim Always good to hear from you. Yes, indeed I am running DX4WIN as administrator all the time. I guess the big issue is that the sondcard0, 1, 2.. is good for Windows XP but not for Vista. Vista applications must choose specific inputs/outputs and not soundcards. Just as an exemple, I have moved MMTY from XP to Vista as well. In the new MMTY version that supports soundcard correctly on Vista, you can choose the input sound source and the output you use. MMTY works perfectly. I guess DX4WIN would need to do the same thing. If there is not any fix or the due implementation on the newer version, it is likely PSK window will not work correct in a given hardware. This is a shame because I like DX4WIN so much. Whether we like or not DX4WIN must keep up with the current windows versions or it will be outdated soon. I still have a hope there is a fix or a work around. Fred On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:03:48 -0600, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: > Have you tried running DX4WIN as administrator when you make the PSK > configuration changes? > > 73 - Jim AD1C > > On 9/20/2009 7:43 AM, py...@integral.com.br wrote: >> Hello. I need some help on this >> >> I recently moved to Windows Vista. DX4WIN is working ok except by PSK >> windown. BTW I am using version 7.07.02 >> >> I have the built in soundcard in the computer as well as an external >> soundcard. I need to use the external soundcard for PSK, once the >> built-in >> in set up for other applications. >> Unfortunately DX4WIN just allows you to set soundcard number and not >> soundcard inputs/ouputs. So even though I set for SOINDCARD1 in >> preferences >> , it keeps on picking different input and output devices every time I >> open >> the program. >> >> Eventually I make it work but I really don't know exactly what to do next >> nite I enter in the program. >> >> I am wondering if someone could bring some light to this matter and/or if >> this is corrected in the 8.X vewrsion. >> >> Thanks and regards Fred __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] DX4WIN PSK & Vista
Hello. I need some help on this I recently moved to Windows Vista. DX4WIN is working ok except by PSK windown. BTW I am using version 7.07.02 I have the built in soundcard in the computer as well as an external soundcard. I need to use the external soundcard for PSK, once the built-in in set up for other applications. Unfortunately DX4WIN just allows you to set soundcard number and not soundcard inputs/ouputs. So even though I set for SOINDCARD1 in preferences , it keeps on picking different input and output devices every time I open the program. Eventually I make it work but I really don't know exactly what to do next nite I enter in the program. I am wondering if someone could bring some light to this matter and/or if this is corrected in the 8.X vewrsion. Thanks and regards Fred __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] Multiple QSOs change on QSO NOTES
Hello. How can I add a text in the QSO Notes field to the entire log ? I need to merge tow logs, but I want to have a writting text on the QSO Notes to know from what log the QSO came from. Thanks Fred PY2XB From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 15 12:41:30 2008 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Reisert AD1C) Date: Fri Feb 15 12:46:25 2008 Subject: [Dx4win] Multiple QSOs change on QSO NOTES In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- py2xb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello. How can I add a text in the QSO Notes field to the entire log ? I > need to merge tow logs, but I want to have a writting text on the QSO Notes > to know from what log the QSO came from. Thanks Fred PY2XB What about using group numbers - assign a different group to each imported log? 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C/?, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.ad1c.us From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 15 14:13:57 2008 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ON4AOI) Date: Fri Feb 15 14:18:53 2008 Subject: [Dx4win] Multiple QSOs change on QSO NOTES In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fred, You can export into a csv(txt) file and add a txt to each qso Then modify/create a filter where you import the specific text also In the QSO notes field Or Like Jim wrote give the logs a different group number Guy ON4AOI -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens py2xb Verzonden: Friday, February 15, 2008 5:24 PM Aan: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Onderwerp: [Dx4win] Multiple QSOs change on QSO NOTES Hello. How can I add a text in the QSO Notes field to the entire log ? I need to merge tow logs, but I want to have a writting text on the QSO Notes to know from what log the QSO came from. Thanks Fred PY2XB ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
ENC: [Dx4win] DX4WIN with IC-756PROIII
Tony Thanks for the input. I do not think that there is any pb with the virtual COM produced by RigTalk (yes it is a USB to serial converter which produces a virtual COM). It is working 100/100 with TRX manager. TRX manager controls the readio fully and real time. So I discard any pb at this side. In my opinion has to do with with DX4WIN. Lets se if we hear different inputs from other fellows. Regards Fred -Mensagem original- De: Tony Lord [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada em: sexta-feira, 24 de novembro de 2006 07:58 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: RE: [Dx4win] DX4WIN with IC-756PROIII Fred, Cannot answer all your questions other than to say you need to have Pro III addressed correctly with DX4WIN, clearly you have done this otherwise you would have no communications with it!! Regarding frequency errors. Is your COM port produced via a USB converter/hub?? I have 6 COM ports, 4 of which are via a USB Hub. I noticed that the stored frequency (for QSO's using $$ in info for QSO box) some times is erratic, as you described. But this is only in QSO stored info, never in real time on 756 Pro II. It seems to occur only when COM port is "produced" by a USB hub. Jim had similar problem. Hope you get better feedback from other users. All I can say is I have same version of DX4WIN and same rig as you and it works very well. 73's de Tony G8DQZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 November 2006 09:44 To: Dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Dx4win] DX4WIN with IC-756PROIII Could someone help me on this? I am using DX4WIN version 7.02.15 under windows 2000. I have a FT1000MP connected to the computer working fine with DX4WIN. I have installed RigTalk in order to add an Icom 756PROIII as a second radio. Rig talk has been installed successfully. The 756PROIII works 100% with TRX Manager. So RigTalk is working fine. I have configured preferences for the second radio using 756PROIII default entry, the corresponding COM port being set and a poll rate of 1000 ms (1 second). When I switch to the second radio, DX4WIN can communicate with the radio, but it is somewhat erratic. When I change bands it takes long to adjust DX4WIN band/mode (at random basis). Then I have tried the option radio|set frequency. I have realized that when pooling the frequency from the radio DX4WIN understands the frequency wrong. For instance radio is on 7035.00, but DX4WIN reads 703.500,00. Suddenly it understands correctly and at this point the band/mode is ajusted at QSO window when in real time logging (F9). Definitely there is something wrong at DX4WIN's side configuration wise or even a glitch. Any help is appreciated. Regards Fred PY2XB ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
