[Dx4win] Keying "Lock down" issues

2010-02-01 Thread Hugh Valentine
Quite a few of us are still dead in the water with the Keying issue Locking 
down in DX4WIN and can't get things running, and are struggling.  Some have 
computer skills and background, some of us (Me for one) have little to none.

Seems the people who are skilled have their programs running well and cannot 
duplicate our situation and, thus, cannot find our solutions.

I have been in contact with several who are stuck, compared notes, and are 
trying to be a lucky Blind Hog and find the Acorn.

I know I may be way off base, but I have looked in the "Drivers" folders in my 
setups and find different drivers.  I have no idea of whether this is 
significant, just asking if someone else does, and if this is a possible 
problem or normal.  I am listing the findings below found on my 2 computers.

Windows Vista 64 bit Laptop-"Drivers" Ver8.03=TVicHW32.dll 
(Note: 32 not 64 in filename)

PC running Vista 32 Bit-"Drivers" Ver8.03=LPTdriver
Ver8.02=vichwll.sys and vichwll.vxd
Ver7.05=vichwll.sys and vichwll.vxd

I dont see any serial ports listed here, probably not supposed to be.

Like I said, just grasping and I dont know anything about computer setups, this 
is a desperate observation and comparison.

Is the 32.dll significant in a 64 bit Vista?

Val
N4RJ

P.S. Anyone else who is having this problem, please email me at 
hsv...@juno.com, maybe we can compare notes.
I already have K2DBK, N2WK, and W4ZGR.




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Re: [Dx4win] Keying "Lock down" issues

2010-02-01 Thread ON4AOI
Hi Hugh and others,

Let me clear out some things
No matter what OS (WIN98-XP-VISTA-WIN7) you are running
All the drivers that you have found are all for the LPT port,
Because there are NO extra drivers installed for serial ports
when you install DX4WIN.
Starting DX4WIN803 the new LPT driver can be installed if you need
The LPT port for connected hardware. This was needed for Vista and Win7
(32 or 64bit), otherwise you had to Run as Administrator everytime you
started
DX4WIN.

Now from your previous message. 

>I am measuring voltages at the Serial Port, pin 4 of the Keying line(also
the pin 7 of PTTdoes same.
>( I have USB to Serial Cable through a box for interface which
>houses two Transistor keying Circuits for CW and PTT.

Did you use the schematic from the helpfile ? 

>Symptom=Keying and or PTT Lines remain "Key down, continuous" when any
attempt to send CW via Com Port.
>I measure voltage at Transistor input from the DB9 DTR line at 6.43 Volts
Key up.
>Once I send CW through the DX4WIN Keyer, the voltage goes to .4 Volts and
the Ft-920
>keying line is sending one continuous note on cw and will not let up unless
you either
>exit the program and start over, or "Stop Radio".
>When you select "Start Radio" again, the voltage goes back to 6.4 volts at
the Transistor(s) and radio.
>But, once you try to send CW through DX4 WIn the keying is "key down" and
holds until you select "Stop Radio/then Start Radio".
>I cannot change any config in DX4WIN that will fix this.
>I have Uninstalled 8.03 and Reinstalled 8.02.  Still malfunctions.

This is strange, Don´t know if your meter is accurate but this doesn´t look
correct to me,
When you start keying the voltage at the serial port side should go HIGH
(positive compared to gnd)
After the serial resistor from 1k2 to the base of the transitor you should
have +/- 0.6V
For ptt it will remain high and the transistor will close to gnd , iow your
transceiver will be in TX
For CW the voltage will swing between high and low, you could try to
increase the resistor to check out if it will
Remain one tone, it looks to me that the cw transistor goes in saturation
and doesn´t switch anymore.
Why I assume this? Because you have it in V8.02 and V8.03 and it has never
been reported in versions 
Previous to 8.03

Guy ON4AOI








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Re: [Dx4win] Keying "Lock down" issues

2010-02-01 Thread David, K2DBK
Guy,

Can you confirm that the vichw11.* drivers are not supposed to be 
installed in the \drivers subdirectory for 8.03? I see them in every 
version prior to 8.03, and found a copy of vichw11.sys in my 
c:\windows\system32\drivers directory (Windows XP SP3). I just want to 
rule that out as a possible issue.

One other question: I'm not using the LPT port for anything. Am I 
correct that there is no reason to run the lptdriver.exe install?

On 2/1/2010 10:36 AM, ON4AOI wrote:
> Hi Hugh and others,
>
> Let me clear out some things
> No matter what OS (WIN98-XP-VISTA-WIN7) you are running
> All the drivers that you have found are all for the LPT port,
> Because there are NO extra drivers installed for serial ports
> when you install DX4WIN.
> Starting DX4WIN803 the new LPT driver can be installed if you need
> The LPT port for connected hardware. This was needed for Vista and Win7
> (32 or 64bit), otherwise you had to Run as Administrator everytime you
> started
> DX4WIN.
>
> Now from your previous message.
>
>
>> I am measuring voltages at the Serial Port, pin 4 of the Keying line(also
>>  
> the pin 7 of PTTdoes same.
>
>> ( I have USB to Serial Cable through a box for interface which
>> houses two Transistor keying Circuits for CW and PTT.
>>  
> Did you use the schematic from the helpfile ?
>
>
>> Symptom=Keying and or PTT Lines remain "Key down, continuous" when any
>>  
> attempt to send CW via Com Port.
>
>> I measure voltage at Transistor input from the DB9 DTR line at 6.43 Volts
>>  
> Key up.
>
>> Once I send CW through the DX4WIN Keyer, the voltage goes to .4 Volts and
>>  
> the Ft-920
>
>> keying line is sending one continuous note on cw and will not let up unless
>>  
> you either
>
>> exit the program and start over, or "Stop Radio".
>> When you select "Start Radio" again, the voltage goes back to 6.4 volts at
>>  
> the Transistor(s) and radio.
>
>> But, once you try to send CW through DX4 WIn the keying is "key down" and
>>  
> holds until you select "Stop Radio/then Start Radio".
>
>> I cannot change any config in DX4WIN that will fix this.
>> I have Uninstalled 8.03 and Reinstalled 8.02.  Still malfunctions.
>>  
> This is strange, Don´t know if your meter is accurate but this doesn´t look
> correct to me,
> When you start keying the voltage at the serial port side should go HIGH
> (positive compared to gnd)
> After the serial resistor from 1k2 to the base of the transitor you should
> have +/- 0.6V
> For ptt it will remain high and the transistor will close to gnd , iow your
> transceiver will be in TX
> For CW the voltage will swing between high and low, you could try to
> increase the resistor to check out if it will
> Remain one tone, it looks to me that the cw transistor goes in saturation
> and doesn´t switch anymore.
> Why I assume this? Because you have it in V8.02 and V8.03 and it has never
> been reported in versions
> Previous to 8.03
>
> Guy ON4AOI
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Dx4win] Keying "Lock down" issues

2010-02-01 Thread Jay Hainline
My computer is an HP Model e9220y with an AMD Phenom II X4 910 processor 
2.60 GHz, Windows 7 Home premium 64-bit operating system.

The interface is a Rigblaster Duo with the appropriate drivers installed for 
Windows 7 64 bit hooked to the computer through a USB port.

The cw keying works fine when using Mixw 2.19 or CwType. DX4WIN 8.03 
produces a solid carrier when trying to use it to key the radio. So what 
would be the difference in how Cwtype or Mixw keys the radio compared to 
Dx4win? I given up trying DX4win for cw keyboarding and just use Cwtype 
instead.

Jay Hainline  KA9CFD
Colchester, IL  EN40om

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From: "Hugh Valentine" 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 14:14
To: 
Subject: [Dx4win] Keying "Lock down" issues

> Quite a few of us are still dead in the water with the Keying issue 
> Locking down in DX4WIN and can't get things running, and are struggling. 
> Some have computer skills and background, some of us (Me for one) have 
> little to none.
>
> Seems the people who are skilled have their programs running well and 
> cannot duplicate our situation and, thus, cannot find our solutions.
>
> I have been in contact with several who are stuck, compared notes, and are 
> trying to be a lucky Blind Hog and find the Acorn.
>
> I know I may be way off base, but I have looked in the "Drivers" folders 
> in my setups and find different drivers.  I have no idea of whether this 
> is significant, just asking if someone else does, and if this is a 
> possible problem or normal.  I am listing the findings below found on my 2 
> computers.
>
> Windows Vista 64 bit Laptop-"Drivers" Ver8.03=TVicHW32.dll
> (Note: 32 not 64 in filename)
>
> PC running Vista 32 Bit-"Drivers" Ver8.03=LPTdriver
>Ver8.02=vichwll.sys and vichwll.vxd
>Ver7.05=vichwll.sys and vichwll.vxd
>
> I dont see any serial ports listed here, probably not supposed to be.
>
> Like I said, just grasping and I dont know anything about computer setups, 
> this is a desperate observation and comparison.
>
> Is the 32.dll significant in a 64 bit Vista?
>
> Val
> N4RJ
>
> P.S. Anyone else who is having this problem, please email me at 
> hsv...@juno.com, maybe we can compare notes.
> I already have K2DBK, N2WK, and W4ZGR.
>
>
>
> 
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> business.
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