Re: [Dx4win] Pre-1975 CW QSOs
Hi, Bob, Well, your reply went to me, rather than the whole group, so I will forward it on. I am afraid there is no easy fix for substituting any other character for the dot or asterisk; those characters are hard-coded into the program. They would need to be defined in the program as a variable, and a way provided for you to set that variable. Not a real difficult programming task, but not a high priority, in the scheme of things. Maybe you need new specs... I have upgraded to each new version, although not usually right when a totally new version comes out - I wait for the bugs to be fixed.. 73, John -Original Message- From: Bob [mailto:robertlar...@att.net] Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 5:36 PM To: k2...@arrl.net Cc: Dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Pre-1975 CW QSOs Amen... Well, almost my as QSO's only go back to '56.I'm still using version 5.02. Based on my usage of the program there is no incentive to update it. A fix for this "bug" would provide one. Another issue I have, and I'll state it is mine not a bug, is with the reports. If I do a Report/DXCC/Listing what happens is that a never worked is a dot and a fully confirmed and credited item is an asterisk. More than once these tired eyes have been confused and not seen the difference. So what I would love to see is the ability to change these. Say leave the dot out and have a blank or substitute a dash in it's place. Or make the asterisk an X or something so the difference is more easily discernible. If not to be part of an update/upgrade does anyone know how to do this? 73, Bob K2TK J.F. Samuels wrote: >I have CW QSOs dating as far back as 1952. I always have to use a special >filter and a separate run for CW, merge the results in a separate Excel >file, sort, etc. or manually remove any QSOs that are picked up >automatically by DXW. Very clumsy. It may be that this DXW inadequacy has >been around a long time, but it burns me every time I submit for DXCC! > > > >John, K2CIB > > > > __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Pre-1975 CW QSOs
I have CW QSOs dating as far back as 1952. I always have to use a special filter and a separate run for CW, merge the results in a separate Excel file, sort, etc. or manually remove any QSOs that are picked up automatically by DXW. Very clumsy. It may be that this DXW inadequacy has been around a long time, but it burns me every time I submit for DXCC! John, K2CIB __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] pre-1975 cw qsos
Paul did comment on this issue... From the 2005 Archives... --- [Dx4win] Pre 1975 CW DXCC confirmations Paul van der Eijk pvandereijk at cox.net Thu Feb 24 11:37:51 EST 2005 I have been looking at this, and I'm not sure yet how easy/difficult this change will be. It is interesting to note though that DX4WIN had this problem for nine years and it suddenly rises to the top is a critical issue. -- Paul - I don't think it qualifies as critical... but it's now 13 years... even a minor problem can get annoying after that length of time ;-) ... Mel Jerry.Van wrote: >> ARRL DXCC CW started 1 January 1975. Of course all QSOs older than >> that can count for Mixed, Phone and single-band awards, just not for >> CW DXCC. >> >> 73 - Jim AD1C > > - > > My wish list is rather short but I REALLY wish WIN would recognize the > start date for CW DXCC. This has been a pain in the behind for me ever > since I started using WIN several years ago. > > Jerry N8BM > > > __ > Dx4win mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Mel, VE2DC __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] pre-1975 cw qsos
I must say it's a little depressing that, after being away from DX4Win for a number of years, some of the same old issues are still there. My log goes back to 1969. Jerry.Van wrote: >> ARRL DXCC CW started 1 January 1975. Of course all QSOs older than >> that can count for Mixed, Phone and single-band awards, just not for >> CW DXCC. >> >> 73 - Jim AD1C > > - > > My wish list is rather short but I REALLY wish WIN would recognize the > start date for CW DXCC. This has been a pain in the behind for me ever > since I started using WIN several years ago. > > Jerry N8BM > > > __ > Dx4win mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Mel, VE2DC __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] pre-1975 cw qsos
>ARRL DXCC CW started 1 January 1975. Of course all QSOs older than >that can count for Mixed, Phone and single-band awards, just not for >CW DXCC. > >73 - Jim AD1C - My wish list is rather short but I REALLY wish WIN would recognize the start date for CW DXCC. This has been a pain in the behind for me ever since I started using WIN several years ago. Jerry N8BM __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] pre-1975 cw qsos
>Kostas, > >I am not sure if your suggestion will work. Many of my CW QSOs >prior to 1975 were submitted for DXCC Mixed and Band awards. When I >view the Summary report for DXCC I want to see how I stand relative >to all of the modes and bands. Making a selection that excludes >some QSOs will not make this report accurate. Also every time I >attempt to make a submission for DXCC, I have to export the report >and delete all of the CW QSOs prior to 1975. Again, when I make a >submission I need to see all of my QSOs since 1967 in order for the >report to be accurate. The better solution is for the program to >automatically filter CW QSOs prior to 1975 -- like the other leading >logging programs. I have asked Paul several times for this fix, and >he even admitted at Dayton a couple of years ago that it needed to >be done. I realize that not too many of us go back beyond 1975 -- >it would just help us old timers. > >Dave, N4QS Precisely. If the program can figure out from the Country file which entity a given call is based on date, I'm not sure I understand why it can't be made to figure out whether a CW QSO is eligible for DXCC credit by just checking the date. I use precisely the workaround Kostas suggests now, and it's a real pain to keep getting those nice DXCC Summary reports that are completely accurate EXCEPT for CW. I've got lots of old CW QSOs in my log going back to around 1965, and some of them have already been credited for Mixed by ARRL. It's extremely awkward to have to filter the log every time I check my master DXCC status spreadsheet against my DX4WIN log. 73... Randy, W8FN __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] pre-1975 cw qsos
ARRL DXCC CW started 1 January 1975. Of course all QSOs older than that can count for Mixed, Phone and single-band awards, just not for CW DXCC. 73 - Jim AD1C On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Kostas SV1DPI wrote: > I didn't knew how dxcc rules are. I thought that qsos on cw earlier than > 1975 couldn't count at all... Strange rules... Anyway Paul will fix it for > sure -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, , http://www.ad1c.us __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] pre-1975 cw qsos
I didn't knew how dxcc rules are. I thought that qsos on cw earlier than 1975 couldn't count at all... Strange rules... Anyway Paul will fix it for sure... It is difficult even for a computer to keep all these rules... For example lotw confirmations must count only for dxcc and was and not for waz, wpx, etc. Add the complexity with E-qsl (if Paul adds something like this) and cq awards (eqsl counts for cq awards but not for arrl) and nothing of them counts for iota... Brrr i don't want to be in Paul's seat... Kostas - Original Message - From: "Jim Reisert AD1C" To: "Kostas SV1DPI" Cc: "REFLECTOR dx4win" ; Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] pre-1975 cw qsos > This will wipe out group numbers previously assigned to those QSOs - > not a good solution in my mind. > > I don't understand why Paul has been reluctant to fix this. N7XR's > LogPlus! did this correctly over 10 years ago! > > 73 - Jim AD1C > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Kostas SV1DPI wrote: > >> I think a solultion for your problem would be as follows. >> Search for cw qsos previous of 1975 (f8). >> Make them another group from the default 0, for example group 75 for >> these >> qsos (qso window>multiple qsos>set group). >> Make a selection with group filter to choose only 0. DXCC tracking will >> be >> only for cw qsos after 1975 and for all possible ssb, etc qsos. >> I have not tried this but must be work >> 73 Kostas sv1dpi > > -- > Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, , http://www.ad1c.us > > > __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] pre-1975 cw qsos
This will wipe out group numbers previously assigned to those QSOs - not a good solution in my mind. I don't understand why Paul has been reluctant to fix this. N7XR's LogPlus! did this correctly over 10 years ago! 73 - Jim AD1C On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Kostas SV1DPI wrote: > I think a solultion for your problem would be as follows. > Search for cw qsos previous of 1975 (f8). > Make them another group from the default 0, for example group 75 for these > qsos (qso window>multiple qsos>set group). > Make a selection with group filter to choose only 0. DXCC tracking will be > only for cw qsos after 1975 and for all possible ssb, etc qsos. > I have not tried this but must be work > 73 Kostas sv1dpi -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, , http://www.ad1c.us __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] pre-1975 cw qsos
This doesn't address the fact that a CW contact prior to 1975 does count for the mixed award but not for the CW award... you can't just eliminate the QSO from the count... so you have to do it twice, without the filter for Mixed and with the filter for CW. Perhaps this is what you were suggesting Kostas... it's hard to explain in English even for an Englishman ;-) Kostas SV1DPI wrote: > I think a solultion for your problem would be as follows. > Search for cw qsos previous of 1975 (f8). > Make them another group from the default 0, for example group 75 for these > qsos (qso window>multiple qsos>set group). > Make a selection with group filter to choose only 0. DXCC tracking will be > only for cw qsos after 1975 and for all possible ssb, etc qsos. > I have not tried this but must be work > 73 Kostas sv1dpi > > > - Original Message - > From: "Randy Farmer" > To: "DX4WIN" > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:03 AM > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Wish list > > >>> Like many of us I chase DXCC and WAZ. ... >> I'd be perfectly happy to settle for being able to get an accurate >> DXCC CW report without having to manually filter out all the pre-1975 >> QSOs in my log to do so. It's always amazed me that this simple >> recognition of the rules of eligibility for one of the most popular >> awards out there has never been a priority for a program that >> otherwise does a great job of tracking DXCC progress. >> >> 73... >> Randy, W8FN >> >> __ >> Dx4win mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > > __ > Dx4win mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Mel, VE2DC __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] pre-1975 cw qsos
I think a solultion for your problem would be as follows. Search for cw qsos previous of 1975 (f8). Make them another group from the default 0, for example group 75 for these qsos (qso window>multiple qsos>set group). Make a selection with group filter to choose only 0. DXCC tracking will be only for cw qsos after 1975 and for all possible ssb, etc qsos. I have not tried this but must be work 73 Kostas sv1dpi - Original Message - From: "Randy Farmer" To: "DX4WIN" Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Wish list > >>Like many of us I chase DXCC and WAZ. ... > > I'd be perfectly happy to settle for being able to get an accurate > DXCC CW report without having to manually filter out all the pre-1975 > QSOs in my log to do so. It's always amazed me that this simple > recognition of the rules of eligibility for one of the most popular > awards out there has never been a priority for a program that > otherwise does a great job of tracking DXCC progress. > > 73... > Randy, W8FN > > __ > Dx4win mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
