[e-gold-list] Re: how good is Metal Savings?

[Erich]

> I am SO IMPRESSED by metal savings, I've put a kilo in there.

You may have put a kilo in there, but now you have more than a kilo!

> I don't know if Erich touted his own horn but the system calculates 
> interest sort of "instantaneousloy and continually" -- I love it.

Yes, that's right.  Check your balance, wait a minute, check again,
and you'll see that you earned interest.

> An incredible software system!

Thank you JP!

e

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[e-gold-list] Re: The Gold Economy

[Michael Moore]

Our 'little gold ecology' which has been developed may still be in its
infancy by world standards and some may not fully realise it's full
potential but at it's current growth rate it is going to be a player
significant enough to encroach upon the world gold economy and cause some
prominent heads to sit up and take notice very soon.

We are not talking a ton or two of gold here but by world standards several
thousand tons of gold being eventually transacted and repeat transacted on a
regular basis.  This could be enough to influence world markets in a
significant manner.

e-gold, it's associated companies, The Gold Economy,  Standard Reserve,
Metal Savings and similar businesses may well, some time down the track, be
regarded as the founders of the fledgling economy we are driving into the
financial face of this planet.   So those who participate at this early
stage, even in a small way, will be the prime movers in the global gold
economy in a few short years.

Your millions of dollars are not made after you have made your millions of
dollars. They are made when you have very little and you are fighting for a
place in society with your goals and aspirations in front of you and your
knock backs behind you, your sleeves are rolled up, your hands are dirty
and you get up everytime you are knocked down and then crawling, walking and
running towards that goal you build up your character, your determination
and your business to a resounding success.   Then your participation,
whatever part you play,  will assure you of a place in history as trite as
it may sound.

Believe it or not, we are starting a new era!


Kind regards,

Michael Moore
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From: "Elwyn Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 2:43 PM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: The Gold Economy


> Now that we have two full issuers of liability, the total amount of
> currency in circulation is not just the amount of currency in circulation
> in E-Gold.
>
> Certainly, E-Gold is an important issuer -- it is the largest at this
> time. BUT Standard Reserve issues a currency Standard Dollars that is not
> based on E-Gold and this is an interesting adjunct to The Gold Economy. In
> about a month's time, money will be swapped from
> E-Gold>>StandardGold>>StandardDollars at the click of a mouse. The return
> journey will also be as simple and as easy.
>
> Transactions or spends that are shown in E-Gold today are not the total
> number of spends. Standard Gold has spends that never register in the
> E-Gold interface -- even though the Standard Gold currency is the base
> money for Standard Gold.
>
> Thus, the indicators of The Gold Economy needs to be indicators that show
> the total circulation of currency within The Gold Economy, and the total
> number of transactions within The Gold Economy.
>
> Your initial question related to the sectors of activity and whether there
> was an overabundance of one particular sector represented in all
> transactions etc. My reply was centered on giving you the spread of
> activity to show that it is much wider than people realize -- including
> taking into account the sector where E-Gold is wholesaling to another
> issuer and that the activity of that other issuer had to be taken into
> account when considering the sectors of activity.
>
> Interesting discussion.
>
> Dr Elwyn Jenkins
> The Gold Economy
> www.goldeconomy.com
> Where gold is money . . .
> ++
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[e-gold-list] Re: The Gold Economy

[Elwyn Jenkins]

Now that we have two full issuers of liability, the total amount of
currency in circulation is not just the amount of currency in circulation
in E-Gold.

Certainly, E-Gold is an important issuer -- it is the largest at this
time. BUT Standard Reserve issues a currency Standard Dollars that is not
based on E-Gold and this is an interesting adjunct to The Gold Economy. In
about a month's time, money will be swapped from
E-Gold>>StandardGold>>StandardDollars at the click of a mouse. The return
journey will also be as simple and as easy.

Transactions or spends that are shown in E-Gold today are not the total
number of spends. Standard Gold has spends that never register in the
E-Gold interface -- even though the Standard Gold currency is the base
money for Standard Gold.

Thus, the indicators of The Gold Economy needs to be indicators that show
the total circulation of currency within The Gold Economy, and the total
number of transactions within The Gold Economy.

Your initial question related to the sectors of activity and whether there
was an overabundance of one particular sector represented in all
transactions etc. My reply was centered on giving you the spread of
activity to show that it is much wider than people realize -- including
taking into account the sector where E-Gold is wholesaling to another
issuer and that the activity of that other issuer had to be taken into
account when considering the sectors of activity.

Interesting discussion.

Dr Elwyn Jenkins
The Gold Economy
www.goldeconomy.com
Where gold is money . . .
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[e-gold-list] how good is Metal Savings?

[jpm]

No shit, Claude!

I am SO IMPRESSED by metal savings, I've put a kilo in there.

think of the god damn interest I'm earning --- that's magnificent

I don't know if Erich touted his own horn but the system calculates 
interest sort of "instantaneousloy and continually" -- I love it.


An incredible software system!

jpm

>Erich,
>
>Yes ..I am in.
>
>Great service my friend. Give it time, it will become very popular.
>
>On 1 Dec 2000, at 23:45, Erich wrote:
>
>>
>> Win an ounce of gold!
>>
>> www.metalsavings.com
>>
>
>
>Claude Cormier
>Editor
>
>
>"The Ormetal Report" http://www.ormetal.com
>
>Learn about mining and profit from investing in gold
>and mining stocks.
>
>Claude Cormier, Editor: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Open an e-gold account now:
>https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=104173
>
>PGPKeys: http://www.ormetal.com/PGPkey.html
>
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[e-gold-list] RE: PayByGold: New system release.

[Khurram Khan]

>Do you have a guaranteed response time?



Hello,

  The checks are printed and mailed the day after you request it.  After that, its up 
to the mail systems.

Khurram

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[e-gold-list] RE: PayByGold: New system release.

[Donald D. Henson]

Do you have a guaranteed response time?

Don Henson

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Khurram Khan
> Sent: Friday, 01 December, 2000 22:31
> To: e-gold Discussion
> Subject: [e-gold-list] PayByGold: New system release.
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
>   I am glad to announce that the new PayByGold system is in beta. 
>  You can access it at http://www.paybygold.com/beta.  The system 
> features saved templates of payments, history, and batch 
> payments.  Please check it out, become a user and if you have any 
> comments on it let us know.  Anything you think should be added, 
> taken out, or changed, will be greatly appreciated.  The old 
> system is still in use at www.paybygold.com.  The new version 
> will replace the old as soon as we install our SSL certificate.
> 
> Khurram Khan
> 
> Pay By Gold
> 
> 
> 
> _
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[e-gold-list] Re: The Gold Economy

[Claude Cormier]

On 2 Dec 2000, at 12:54, Elwyn Jenkins wrote:

> I think we need to see this in terms of the growth of the whole gold
> economy, and not just the e-gold community. The Gold Economy (the economy
> where gold is money) is comprised of E-Gold, Standard Reserve,
> Metalsavings, eDinar, market makers and so on.

Elwyn, for sure there are many parties in this economy. But the 
back bone remains e-gold. And the best mesures of this growth are 
the metal in circulation and the growth rate in e-metal spends.
 
> This month Standard Reserve added nearly AUG 50,000 (gold grams) to the
> economy through currency sales -- that is part of the e-gold increase as
> well! 

A good start.. I can imagine how the growth will accelerate once 
your debit card comes alive. I have no doubt many are waiting for 
this launch before they open their account with SR.

>There are also sales of e-Dinar which have deposits in e-gold backing their
> currency.

I am at lost to understand the link between e-Dinar and e-gold. 
Why are they using a site that is a copy of the old e-gold site and 
showing a currency balance that is exactly the one of e-gold. Is it 
only e-gold window on the Isalmic world. 
 
> The total Gold Economy (the economy in which gold is money) is very
> healthy with the total circulation is re-spent every 3 days.

Are you sure about this figure. This would mean something like 
$300-$400 per spend on average. With the average account funded 
with 60% of that amount, I can't see the average guy turning over 
more than he has in its account, do so in less 3 days, and repeat 
the process again and again..
 
> As Standard Reserve and Metalsavings gets going we are going to see the
> total Gold Economy rapdily increase in total circulation and in the number
> of times it recycles per month.

Add to this the fact that the gold currency is now at rock bottom 
versus the fiat currency. A long term trend is about to start and will 
help us, the evangilists, to convert more and more people to the 
gold discipline.
 

> In about a month, any person will be enabled via Standard Reserve to use a
> Standard Reserve Instant Anywhere account as a current account.

Question on this one Elwyn. Will the debit card users need  to 
maintain a balance in SR-Dollars or will they be able to maintain 
only SR-Augs.  In other words, when taking out paper currencies 
from an ATM, to which account will the debit be applied? 

> I know of one company who is planning on all employees being paid through
> Standard Reserve from 1 January.

Great... I guess it time we start talking to the gold producers about this. 
They are the first who should join the Gold economy. I have started to mention 
this to some of my contacts... and there is some hope.
 
Long live the Gold Economy.

Claude

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[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold growth rates...

[Elwyn Jenkins]

I think we need to see this in terms of the growth of the whole gold
economy, and not just the e-gold community. The Gold Economy (the economy
where gold is money) is comprised of E-Gold, Standard Reserve,
Metalsavings, eDinar, market makers and so on.

This month Standard Reserve added nearly AUG 50,000 (gold grams) to the
economy through currency sales -- that is part of the e-gold increase as
well! Standard Reserve Gold is backed 100% by e-gold deposits. There are
also sales of e-Dinar which have deposits in e-gold backing their
currency.

The total Gold Economy (the economy in which gold is money) is very
healthy with the total circulation is re-spent every 3 days.

As Standard Reserve and Metalsavings gets going we are going to see the
total Gold Economy rapdily increase in total circulation and in the number
of times it recycles per month.

Already from the work of The Gold Economy, LLC website I know we are
getting more interest on a daily basis in the whole idea of The Gold
Economy (where gold is money). We are receiving between 4,000 and 12,000
page views a day. Already the travel agent who joined yesterday has had 15
calls booking travel and these will all be paid with Standard Gold within
a couple of days.

In about a month, any person will be enabled via Standard Reserve to use a
Standard Reserve Instant Anywhere account as a current account. You will
have:

* a debit card
* free checking service where you can order a check to be paid to anyone
for no cost
* earn interest by automatically investing in Metalsavings
* have your income credited automatically to your account
* have automatic payments made from your account
and so on . . .

I know of one company who is planning on all employees being paid through
Standard Reserve from 1 January.

There is also another company who intends to pay all its 45 suppliers in
Standard Reserve. They will all be able to use those same facilities and
also use the merchants who now take Standard Gold, E-Gold and e-Dinar.

The Gold Economy, LLC has in the works the following services that will
take Standard Gold:

a legal company
a payroll service provider
a bookkeeping service
an office solutions company
a gift shop

The sectors being serviced today by The Gold Economy (incuding those
companies that take e-Gold, Standard Gold and e-Dinar) is wider and more
varying than most people think. The following is a known list of
transactions in the last month:

Software sales AUG 95,000
Gold investments AUG 88,200
Gambling AUG 200,000
Payment for services AUG 44,200
Merchandise sales AUG 145,000
Hosting and domain registrations AUG 4,500
Software building including website building AUG 15,000

These are purely anecdotal figures and do not represent a total number of
these transactions. Rather, as I have been mixing with people using
e-gold, Standard Gold and e-Dinar, I have been sampling the types of uses
of gold. With the new merchants coming online, it is going to seriously
expand in a total mix of sectors we transact within.

As our economy grows, so too does the way we think about it need to grow.
One of those ideas we must build is a totality of the system to which we
belong and not just a part. E-Gold is increasing in size, but so are the
new providers -- Standard Reserve, Metalsavings, e-Dinar and so on.

In speaking with Douglas Jackson last evening, we both agreed that the
total of The Gold Economy (where gold is money) is going to be very
significant in the next few months.

Dr Elwyn Jenkins
The Gold Economy
www.goldeconomy.com
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[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold growth rates...

[Claude Cormier]

On 2 Dec 2000, at 8:22, Jeff Fitzmyers wrote:

> By my calculations, in the last ~12 days the total number of accounts
> has increased 10% and the number of funded gold accounts has increased 15%.

It sure would be very interesting to know where this growth is 
coming from and how the e-gold economy is currently distributed 
among the various market segments.

Are the gaming/gambling/mlm businesses still taking up the lion 
part of newly issued gold grams ?

Claude

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[e-gold-list] Re: WIN AN OUNCE OF GOLD!

[Claude Cormier]

Erich,

Yes ..I am in.

Great service my friend. Give it time, it will become very popular.

On 1 Dec 2000, at 23:45, Erich wrote:

> 
> Win an ounce of gold!
> 
> www.metalsavings.com
> 


Claude Cormier
Editor


"The Ormetal Report" http://www.ormetal.com

Learn about mining and profit from investing in gold
and mining stocks.

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[e-gold-list] e-gold growth rates...

[Jeff Fitzmyers]

By my calculations, in the last ~12 days the total number of accounts
has increased 10% and the number of funded gold accounts has increased 15%.

That is a growth rate of about 0.8% per day. Say the rate averages about
0.4% per day. By the end of the month, e-gold could have over 300,000
accounts, 150,000 of them in gold.

Interesting, no?

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[e-gold-list] Bank of England White Paper on Payment Systems Oversight

[R. A. Hettinga]

--- begin forwarded text


From: Somebody
To: "Bob Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FW: Recent Publication
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 08:03:37 -
Status: U

Bob,

The url below is wrong: try http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/fsr/ops.pdf
instead.



> -Original Message-
> From: Somebody at The Bank of England
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 6:33 PM
> To: Somebody
> Subject: Recent Publication
>
>
> You may be aware that we published a paper entitled 'Oversight of
> Payment Systems' this week.   It sets out our objectives for
> payment system oversight and describes our role in practice.
> The paper is available be on the Bank's website at
> www.bankofengland.co.uk/fsr/payment.
>
> Please let me know if you would like a printed copy.
>
> Regards
>
> 



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-- 
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R. A. Hettinga 
The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 
44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,
[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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[e-gold-list] Get free publicity and more webvisitors

[Elwyn Jenkins]

This is a general invitation to anyone who has a website that they wish to
get more visitors (and how doesn't?)

The Gold Economy wants to cover you if you have anything going where
people can spend or people can earn e-gold, Standard Gold, e-Dinars or
DigiGold.

We are here to cover the entire Gold Community. If you want to be covered
send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following information:

1. Your name and name of business or website
2. URL and e-mail contact details
3. Main purpose/aim of your business or website
4. What you want people to know about your business or website
5. How is it different from other of a similar type
6. Is there anything special right now people should come and see?

With that, I guarantee you will get coverage. We are running at about
4,000 page views to 12,000 page views a day. You will get noticed.

See who we have covered in the last week? All these businesses or websites
take or play a part in the gold economy. See them on www.goldeconomy.com
now:

*  GoldNow.st
*  Capulin Coffee
*  IceGold
*  Payless Travel & Tours
*  Association for International Business
*  Freedom Hound

You can be next

Look forward to hearing from you soon.

Dr Elwyn Jenkins
The Gold Economy
www.goldeconomy.com
Atlanta
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[e-gold-list] Re: xodds

[Michael Moore]

Interesting if you have some gold to play with and have some understanding
of the market.

There are also programs that help predict  (if you can call it that) which
way the market is going to go.


Kind regards,

Michael Moore
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- Original Message -
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Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: xodds


> It seems like a wonderful idea, and they seem completely reputable.
>
> I believe the derivatives are denominated in Dollars rather grams,
> but still a great idea and its great that they take egold!
>
> JPM
>
> >I discovered xodds.com, a website that takes egold and
> >lets you trade the stock and forex markets in small
> >amounts.  I was wondering if anyone had any experience
> >with these guys.
> >
> >--Frank
>
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[e-gold-list] Re: WIN AN OUNCE OF GOLD!

[Sidd]

Yeah, do it!! We need to really spread the load before the e-gold
servers get fried...

Sidd.

Well done Erich!
-Original Message-
 (In fact, would anyone be interested in using bananagold (to shop
amazon.com) direct from M.S. rather than from egold?  Save that spend
fee!)

Erich rocks!

JP




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[e-gold-list] Re: WIN AN OUNCE OF GOLD!

[jpm]

Me too!

I'm so excited that http://bananagold.com is going to hold a special 
contest celebrating Metal Savings!  Get ready!

(In fact, would anyone be interested in using bananagold (to shop 
amazon.com) direct from M.S. rather than from egold?  Save that spend 
fee!)

Erich rocks!

JP

>Mine is in!!
>
>Kind regards,
>

>>
>> Win an ounce of gold!
>>
>> www.metalsavings.com
>>
>> MetalSavings (MS) is going to be officially launched in January.  It
>> is the first service which allows you to earn interest on e-gold.
>> e-gold users have an opportunity to try it out before it launches.  As
>> a reward for the early users, MS is giving away an ounce of gold.
>>

>>
>> Please see the FAQ: https://www.sidereal.kz/ms2/faq.html for


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