[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: December 25, 2000

2000-12-26 Thread Noel Berge


 Subject: RE: Feds seized ee-biz-US--Right or Wrong???/Your  wrong but you
don't even know it!!
 From: Angela Kahealani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 18:54:57 -1000
 X-Message-Number: 1

 Sidd wrote:
  It is really sad that people who get taken for a ride by ponzi schemes
  like this blame the people around them instead of the perpetrators of
  the scheme.

Ponzi schemes, when done by a government, are, therefore, 'seen' for what
they are?

Social Security SCAM?  The Federal REserve Banking system using fractional
reserve model is the ultimate ponzi scheme!

May you agree and see this, moving ever away from such scams and moving ever
toward honest systems: e-gold, off shore banking that is legit, banking
outside the existing system,  moving your monies away from SS and disavowing
these systems.

N


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[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: December 25, 2000

2000-12-26 Thread Noel Berge

Re: another way for Standard Reserve "e-gold "to market itself...

I use e-gold, but still find it, after a year, a most expensive alternative.
Now SR is talking about a minimum of over 3% to have $5,000!

They give the example of moving monies from one country to another.  After
their cost and the money makers piece of the action, it still runs 5-10% to
move money.

Believe me, I HATE fiat currencies and what they represent as a way of
stealing value from each and every person.

But, the addiction of the existing banking system and moving monies can't be
beat.

For example, I can have any bank account with a debit card and move monies
quickly and easily by having a card for me and my relative from the same
account.  It cost next to nothing to take money out!

If I do this with an off shore bank and credit card, one issued to me  and
another to a relative, voila!  If I am concerned with the access, I have one
account in their name and one in mine!

This saves me the 5-10 percent SR or e-gold or money maker charges.  Why or
why are they so expensive for a 'round-trip from one end of a transaction to
the other?!

Until the transaction cost drops into the very low percentage arena, this is
a doomed competitor for moving monies.
Noel


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[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold / SR ??

2000-12-26 Thread Dagny Taggart

Now you are being very confusing.
SR does not have its own gold.
SR holds its assets in e-gold, which costs
1% per year. Metal Savings pays interest.

If you are not going to store your gold,
then why are you not holding your assets in Metal
Savings
or something else that does not cost you anything?




--- Elwyn Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  SR does not have its own gold as you state in 
  your article, it has e-gold which it buys at a
 steep discount (because the
  owner of e-gold also has a equity ownership
 position in SR) - and then 
  re-issues the e-gold as SR gold.
  
  Therefore SR is no more then a clone of e-gold,
 sure, SR has more features
  and more options available than e-gold - but, in
 the long run, as long as SR
  is simply "Re-named" e-gold they shouldn't tell
 everyone that they are 
  Completely Unique.
  
 
 This is a very interesting question and one which
 many may not really
 undersand. Standard Reserve does not re-issue
 E-Gold. Rather, Standard
 Reserve holds E-Gold as the asset backing Standard
 Gold. In doing this,
 Standard Reserve has a far more liquid asset than
 E-Gold making it
 possible to handle that asset in a different manner
 than E-Gold.

=
Dagny Taggart

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[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold / SR ??

2000-12-26 Thread Khurram Khan







 If you are not going to store your gold,

 then why are you not holding your assets in Metal

 Savings

 or something else that does not cost you anything?



Good Point.  the 1% storage fee starts to become a killer when you have a large amount 
of gold in your account.  SR maintains a reserve in e-gold for liquidity but sooner or 
later will probably invest a portion of the gold into Metal Savings or a similar 
institution to offset their costs.  It goes back to one of my previous postings 
concerning the profit model for a currency.

Khurram

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