[e-gold-list] ses it all about the Euro

2001-02-18 Thread jpm

Captain Euro raises support for the EU:
http://www.captain-euro.com/

And the site is in English?

Bob


how bizarre, Bob!

this from a friend:



 http://www.captain-euro.com

"Captain Euro proudly offers and accepts beenz, the web's currency."


That pretty much says it all about the Euro as a currency, doesn't it? :)


heheh


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[e-gold-list] GATA goes to South Africa

2001-02-18 Thread jammer99

http://www.gata.org/latest.html

There's also a new "RealPlayer" clip of Mr. Murphy on the page, it gets 
a bit much with the music, but it's interesting they're still kicking along. 
D-Day for their lawsuit is March 15th.
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[e-gold-list] Re: DigiGold's AUG vs. the ECB's EUR

2001-02-18 Thread Bob

Douglas Jackson wrote:

The cane cutter who currently has no
 good way to safeguard what money he has (too poor for bank account, hut
 too insecure for hiding it) could leave his iButtons or smartcards lying
 around confident that there would be little incentive for anyone to
 steal them.

http://www.ibutton.com/

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[e-gold-list] RE: inquiring minds

2001-02-18 Thread Bob

Douglas Jackson wrote:
 
 Sidd responded: (to my blasphemous questioning whether the Perth Mint (
 Kitco, Monex, Fidelitrade, ScotiaMocatta etc.) holds any physical metal
 specifically to back their unallocated "storage" accounts)
 
 So the unallocated metal is always physically in the vault...
 
 I disagree.
 http://www.perthmint.com.au/depository/download/information_pdf.shtml
 Provision 2.3.c) "PMDS may use or deal in all or part of the Client's
 Unallocated Precious Metal for its own account as if it were the owner."
 entirely guts any meaning from Provision 2.3.b) that talks about
 "maintained in bulk storage on a fungible basis". Note also the words
 "Allocated Precious Metal is Precious Metal in a physical form (ie:
 bars, coins)..." in the Clause defining allocated (2.2.a), and their
 absence in the unallocated part (2.3). I got my first tip-off of the
 slipperiness of this sort of language from the "Model Commodity Code"
 that was promulgated in the US around 1990 by the Industry Council for
 Tangible Assets and which has language that "deems" all sorts of
 financial instruments as acceptable substitutes in contractual
 situations relating to bullion/physical obligations.
 
 The combination of these provisions do not require the Mint to hold any
 metal in any vault to back their unallocated "storage" liabilities. The
 absence of storage fees is a further indication that a significant
 proportion of their reserves are performing assets (loans instead of
 bars). What they (and everyone else) call unallocated storage is simply
 banking. 

Yup. There's a really big gold banking industry out there. 'cause gold
is
money with it's own interest rate. Which (gold's interest rate) happens 
to be higher than the Yen!

Gold bank defaults? Won't surprise me. This is why there could be a
quick
doubling of the price of gold in a month or a few months when gold
finally
takes off. And that should be just for starters.

Bob

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[e-gold-list] websmostlinked.com

2001-02-18 Thread Bob

e-gold is ranked #5026 out of 1,056,906 domains in the database.
http://www.websmostlinked.com/t.cgi?wmlm134

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[e-gold-list] Chess Server

2001-02-18 Thread Vince Callaway


I have added a couple of minor features to the chess server.  You can now
pull up player rankings and send email to users.

You have to register and login to gain access to the chess system.

As a convience to players I will begin offering US$ to E-Gold on my site,
there will be a limit of 10 grams and I will only be doing ACH Checks.

I will post a note here when this service is available, I am only waiting
on the paperwork to finish up.

http://www.freedomhound.com



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[e-gold-list] Re: websmostlinked.com

2001-02-18 Thread Michael Moore

Only 5025 to go

Kind regards,

MM
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http://www.gold-today.com
Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here.
https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=129542
subscribe to the gold-today discussion group at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goldtoday

- Original Message -
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To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 3:50 AM
Subject: [e-gold-list] websmostlinked.com


 e-gold is ranked #5026 out of 1,056,906 domains in the database.
 http://www.websmostlinked.com/t.cgi?wmlm134

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[e-gold-list] Re: 1st South African exchange provider now open - great rates, low hassle!

2001-02-18 Thread Ian Green

on 17/2/01 11:10 am, Dagny Taggart at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Trademarks:  a lot of countries do not recognize them.
 Since South Africa is a foreign country, maybe the all
 mighty e-gold brothers can not touch him?
 
 
 
 --- Eric Gaither [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I woould also like to welcome "SA-EgoldXchange"
 to this list.
 
snip

Regardless of this, I think that SA-EgoldXchange is fair use, and does not
deceive anyone of the nature of the business or confuse anyone as to that
they are not e-gold themselves.

The only possible problem with names like this is if people started calling
themselves an E-gold Exchange, but had no intention of conducting business
in e-gold.

-- 

Ian Green
ao.com.au
aoShop.com


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[e-gold-list] Re: 1st South African exchange provider now open - great rates, low hassle!

2001-02-18 Thread SnowDog

 The only possible problem with names like this is if people started
calling
 themselves an E-gold Exchange, but had no intention of conducting business
 in e-gold.

Anytime you use 'E-Gold' in your name, there's a possibility that someone
will come upon the website and think that it's run by E-Gold LTD. I think
this is what they're trying to avoid.

Craig



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[e-gold-list] e-gold, hoover, asprin

2001-02-18 Thread jpm

 The only possible problem with names like this is if people started
calling
 themselves an E-gold Exchange, but had no intention of conducting business
 in e-gold.

Anytime you use 'E-Gold' in your name, there's a possibility that someone
will come upon the website and think that it's run by E-Gold LTD. I think
this is what they're trying to avoid.

Craig


Oh, I don't know Craig ... example, a britney spears fan club could 
go britneyspearsfans.com -- using a trademark in their web site name 
-- without that being a trademark infringement.

A web site could be called "wesellfordparts.com" without problem, I 
think .. yoyu're certainly not "not allowed" to "even mention" a 
trademark on a communication.  You just need a disclaimer.

Example, at http://bananagold.com, e-gold(r), Amazon(r), and numerous 
other trademarks are mentioned freely -- in all cases there's the 
usual legal disclaimer at the bottom that they remain trademarks of 
corporations.  I don't see that using it in the domain address (or 
say the page header) is very different.


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[e-gold-list] Check This Out

2001-02-18 Thread SnowDog


Click on this URL:

www.e-goId.com

Now click on this one:

www.e-gold.com

Craig





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[e-gold-list] Re: 1st South African exchange provider now open - great rates, low hassle!

2001-02-18 Thread markab23

knowing e-gold,  I dare say if they objected it would be in no uncertain 
terms.

We would all know about it.

Chuck

= Original Message From "SnowDog" [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
 The only possible problem with names like this is if people started
calling
 themselves an E-gold Exchange, but had no intention of conducting business
 in e-gold.

Anytime you use 'E-Gold' in your name, there's a possibility that someone
will come upon the website and think that it's run by E-Gold LTD. I think
this is what they're trying to avoid.

Craig



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[e-gold-list] RE: inquiring minds

2001-02-18 Thread Viking Coder

 What business do you do?
 

I'm a programmer (i.e. coder).

Viking Coder

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[e-gold-list] Re: long term prospects for gold and silver

2001-02-18 Thread Claude Cormier

Jeff,

Many other technicians have different views that Prechter.
Yvan Auger at

http://www.preciouswaves.com/FreeSub/021601/pm021601.html

Believe that it could be 2-3 years or more before a final bottom is in 
place. Other people like Marantette at goldstocks.com , who uses 
cycle analysis, believes that the mother of all bottoms will be this 
year... There are almost as many forecasts as there are technical 
analysis methods.

No matter who is right... we are due for a strong rally!

Claude Cormier
Editor, The Ormetal Report
Buy your gold stocks now!
http://www.ormetal.com




On 17 Feb 2001, at 14:05, Jeff Fitzmyers wrote:

 I received an Elliott Wave report that says after being correctly
 bearish on gold and silver for 21 years, it is time to start THINKING
 about the long side. The text suggests one last washout down below
 $200/oz (lower probability), or a nice spike up to around $360/oz then
 washout below $200/oz (higher probability). I think the time frame is a
 year or 2.



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[e-gold-list] Re: exchange?

2001-02-18 Thread Claude Cormier

On 17 Feb 2001, at 8:06, Dagny Taggart wrote:

 Will you enlighten us on how to get them without
 spending either $ 5000 or byuing a 400 oz bar from our
 spare  milk money?

Dagny,

Like it happened with e-gold, there will be exchange providers for 
GoldMoney that will exchange gg in smaller quantity.

GoldCurrencies will launch in a few weeks and will provide such a 
service among others.





Claude Cormier
Editor


"The Ormetal Report" http://www.ormetal.com

Learn about mining and profit from investing in gold
and mining stocks.

Claude Cormier, Editor: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Open an e-gold account now:
https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=104173


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[e-gold-list] Fw: E-Gold Warning

2001-02-18 Thread Michael Moore



For your info...

Kind regards,

MM[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.gold-today.comSign up with 
e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here.https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=129542subscribe 
to the gold-today discussion group athttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/goldtoday
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: wealthinfopreneur 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 4:33 PM
Subject: E-Gold Warning
Hello All, 
Not sure if I sent this out to you all. Just FYI. 
 
E-mails going out that will steal your e-gold password. 
Were sending this warning out earlier than we usually Send out or e-mail 
NEWS because it can be costly to fall prey to this one! 
 
There is a hacker sending out e-mails, purporting to be the SEC. 
Last month we had a special report in out monthly Gazette online on how 
passwords were being stolen by phony websites. We have an article this month on 
how viruses can tap into your computer and steal all your passwords. Here's 
a perfect example. 
One of the ways hackers are getting into e-gold accounts is by sending emails 
purporting to be from Enforcement authorities. They ask you to open an 
attachment and complete various "procedures." 
Many people using computers are not technically minded and won't see the 
danger in that. 
If anyone receives any message claiming to be from a government authority, 
NEVER open any attachments. 
Try returning the email first. If it bounces, then you know it wasn't from 
who they claimed they were. 
I suggest that they contact the authority DIRECTLY by phone to ask if such an 
email was sent. In this way a lot of problems are prevented. 
It appears that this hacker could be the same one that claimed to be from 

Omnipay and contained some kind of .exe file as part of a routine in 
administering e-gold's DDU (due diligence unit). The program somehow extracted 
e-gold login information and the hackers merrily walked off with all the gold. 
(E-gold never sends attachments). 
Any questionable attachments can be sent to Symantec for analysis. 
Again, this is a valuable lesson: do not open .exe files unless you are 
certain about the content AND the sender. But remember, just because it comes 
from someone you know, it doesn't mean that its OK.  
 
 Paula 818.253.5458 Dont 
just spend time; invest it. 
If you are not receiving CASH in your mailbox TODAY youre 
not in the right program. :-) 
2-Minute Sizzle Line: 
800.742.6549 Ext. 7548 
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[e-gold-list] Re: Inquiring Minds.

2001-02-18 Thread Lin Ronald


In reply to a post from Craig I think:( I deleted the mail
yesterday)

I am amazed and annoyed to see that you have made a judgement
on the credibility of Costa Gold. This in fact shifts
the focus of the issue in the search for the bad guy.

In my opinion there is only one bad guy and that is
e-gold. Not because they have decided to withold
payments to Costa Gold, who apparently have proven that they are
the owners.
Rather for this reason: 

Every single e-gold account holder whether he owns the
account for playing games, investing, investing in games , buying
shares form another individual or from a Licensed sharebroker or buying
something from Amazon... has become a very valuable member
of the alternative currency system called e-gold.

Now since many thousands of those people have been recruited to
egold as a result of playing the eebiz, or costa gold investment/game,
its logical that e-gold should be liable to pay some sort of commission
to the owners of these investments or games for bringing them on
board! Especially since e-gold would love these players to
tell their friends and other associates to use the e-gold service for ,
paying the rent, buying groceries etc etc. You could almost
go as far as to say that these web based businesses have exploded
e-golds membership.

If e-gold have a serious desire to continue and expand their
business, eventually to have thousands of Main St users, surely its
logical that they would strive to keep their existing customers
happy. You may recall that the million dollar holiday place in
Australia was discovered by poor, funloving surfers. Their word of mouth
developed it into Surfers Paradise.
Were the original promoters of Las Vegas law abiding and  honest
enough for you Craig to not feel bad every time you visit?

Does it therefore follow that a Secret Agenda has been presented to
e-gold in order to stop them from paying the costa gold funds?

If this is the case then we all are in deeper than we think!

Leaving emotions aside, its obvious that e-gold are making a public
relations blunder and that is my reasoning for casting them in the
Bad Guy role.
I have no agenda with Costa Gold or Blosta gold or Mosta Gold. Just
the simple facts.

 To survive the web you must act like a spider otherwise you will
become a fly ( from someone else ...not me :-)

Lin Ronald ,
New Zealand






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[e-gold-list] newbie stuff

2001-02-18 Thread Deja User

Yo GlenCannonGroup, c'mon already!  PLEASE adjust your email software settings to NOT 
quote entire previous messages.  You've been asked numerous times, by numerous 
individuals.  If there's a problem say it-- perhaps anyone on the list could help you 
to eliminate this annoying issue related to your frequent posts.

e-gold list rules:
**
3.  Cite only those portion of previous posts pertinent to the 
points you wish to make or the questions you wish to ask.  If it's not worth your 
time to make this effort, then don't post.



You don't have to go home but you can't stay here.


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[e-gold-list] More inquiring minds

2001-02-18 Thread Sidd

After the recent tirades and rants about e-gold(tm) et al, I had an
interesting thought...

E-gold(tm) has an escrow agent as follows in 1.7 of the user
agreement:

1.7. "Escrow Agent" means the entity appointed by Issuer to maintain
control over the disposition of and to attest to the quantity of all
bullion held in allocated storage and comprising the 100% backing.

And a guarantee of 100% backing in 3.1.1  3.1.2:

3.1. Reserve Requirement
3.1.1. All e-metal in circulation shall be backed 100% at all times
with unencumbered metal in allocated storage. e-metal is payable to
User, fine gram for gram, on demand, in physical metal, subject only
to the conditions specified in this Agreement. For example, e-gold is
payable to User, fine gram for gram, on
demand, in physical gold.
3.1.2. Under no circumstances will Issuer abrogate its obligation to
back all e-metal with (at least) 100% reserve of physical metal.

Presumably these measures are to give users confidence in the fact
that an independent 3rd party is involved in ensuring there is always
100% backing. I examined this carefully, and now find that in fact the
escrow agent actually seems to be of little importance!

The user agreement is not explicit in requiring the escrow agent's
approval in "redemption" transactions, but is in the case of
"bailment". So e-gold needs approval to "TAKE IN MORE GOLD" but not to
"REDUCE THE RESERVE!"

In either case, it seems to me that having an escrow agent controlling
the bullion stocks has zero value as a security measure unless there
is also an independent 3rd party also constantly auditing the value of
e-gold in accounts. There is no mention of this in the agreement. We
have the "examiner", but lets face it, it would be easy enough to
build a few percent reduction in the figures; then e-gold could issue
more currency than the reserve leaving it less than 100% backed.

It seems to me, a more effective solution would be to have an
independent audit report by a recognised firm of accountants posted
for public viewing on a regular basis monthly?

Or maybe I missed something?


Sidd.





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