[e-gold-list] Wanted: Market Maker :-)
Hi! For a new Client, we are looking for a *reliable* market maker. Here are a few details: - The website offers to plays a GAME (not an adult game !), using e-gold - and only. - We wish to find ONE market maker, who will be advertized for free (*) on the website, as the way to fund your e-gold account. (*) He will just have to print the Client's banner on his website. - The MM must accept money orders and credit cards. Paypal and checks will be an advantage, but is not mandatory. Thanks to contact us by email for more details and propositions. Steve www.welcum.net CHEAP Adult webhosting: $100/year! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] 4 gram Bananagold stats contest (no winner!)
The winner of the 4-gram BANANAGOLD stats contest is .. unfortunately nobody! When will it be useful for large retailers to accept e-gold? I carefully read each entry and also showed them all to a couple of intelligent, non-e-gold related persons. Unfortunately, there is no real insight or answer in any of the entries. (Comapre the famous when will e-gold surpass national currencies in circulation entries, which you now see cut and pasted all over the internet, and the various debate over which one of the best was best etc) Can anyone remember anything about any of the entries for the current contest, I'm afraid not! So, no winner. It was probably a boring question! (I thought of Banana giving 4 grams to charity, but I'm too capitalistic to use charity to put something over.) I would paste the entries in here, but the FascistPastingLimiterDevice(tm) would prevent it! :) JP! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: Hmmmmmmmm - Jim's contest
At 03:50 PM +1000 08/07/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... My guess... Could it bullets used in the assasination of famous people??? No, this and the bullet-coin guess are good, but think of something where there's a market! I'm amazed none of you got this yet, it's not THAT hard! JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: Trivia Question
Another guess...Promethium? Pam | At 03:35 PM 8/6/01, James M. Ray wrote: | Look at my question (there's a market for this metal, and obviously a | limited supply) and I think you'll see the answer if you think of me. | | One hint, it's NOT a coin (Hank gets a gram for saying coins, though). | Another hint, its scarcity is relatively recent compared to gold's. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: Trivia Question
You have to give me an 'E' for effort. :) If it's a rare bullet,I would think it would be the bullet that killed JFK. Pam | At 03:35 PM 8/6/01, James M. Ray wrote: | Look at my question (there's a market for this metal, and obviously a | limited supply) and I think you'll see the answer if you think of me. | | One hint, it's NOT a coin (Hank gets a gram for saying coins, though). | Another hint, its scarcity is relatively recent compared to gold's. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: Trivia Question
Would it be Radium? Pam | At 03:35 PM 8/6/01, James M. Ray wrote: | Look at my question (there's a market for this metal, and obviously a | limited supply) and I think you'll see the answer if you think of me. | | One hint, it's NOT a coin (Hank gets a gram for saying coins, though). | Another hint, its scarcity is relatively recent compared to gold's. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] another hint
Their value was forever-guaranteed in 1986. JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] 7 questions
My guess... Could it bullets used in the assasination of famous people??? No, this and the bullet-coin guess are good, but think of something where there's a market! I'm amazed none of you got this yet, it's not THAT hard! JMR I'm running out of posts! :) Are you thinking perhaps of some (say) medical device, perhaps an artificial heart or some such? (I don't think it's that per se, but maybe something like that?) My wife's watch costs an awful lot per ounce, many watches would cost, what, tens of thousands of dollars per ounce, and there's a market for that... My guess is the thing in question is only made of one uniform material (that would include say coins, bullets, ice cubes and so on) and, i.e., is NOT a thing with moving or differentiated parts (that would include say watches, anything electronic, mechanical, etc) Is that right??! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: 7 questions
Plutonium? Tara xx (@)(@) http://two-cents-worth.com/?323504 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: another hint
| Their value was forever-guaranteed in 1986. | JMR .22 WRF cartridges? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: another hint
Pieces of the Space Shuttle Challenger? At 07:01 AM 8/7/01, you wrote: Their value was forever-guaranteed in 1986. JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: 7 questions
The thing most definitely IS a moving part, but it doesn't *contain* any moving parts, and it's one uniform material, as you said. (The '86 hint was a giveaway, man!) JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: another hint
At 08:54 AM -0500 08/07/2001, Joe Moorman wrote: Pieces of the Space Shuttle Challenger? ... Awesome guess, but no (and there's little or no market for that, I think it's illegal to own, right?). Think something legal, that lots of people want! JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: another hint
| .22 WRF cartridges? | | | I'm not familiar with this, is it the one Hinckley used? | JMR I have no idea, but I know that certain of these cartridges are no longer in production, and are being sold by and to aficionados (don't know for how much, probably much too cheap now that I consider it). It was a bit of a shot in the dark, that. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: another hint
Receivers/firing pins/etc. for pre-1986 civilian-ownable automatic weapons. Civilians are only allowed to own pre-86 automatics, and the title goes with them. There are no more being made. They weigh something like a 1/4oz and are worth $5k. However, rare earth metals (transuranic) are worth more; berkeleyium or something is like $150k/microgram. -- Ryan Lackey [RL7618 RL5931-RIPE][EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO and Co-founder, HavenCo Ltd.+44 7970 633 277 the free world just milliseconds away http://www.havenco.com/ OpenPGP 4096: B8B8 3D95 F940 9760 C64B DE90 07AD BE07 D2E0 301F --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Ryan Wins!
At 02:55 PM + 08/07/2001, Ryan Lackey wrote: Receivers/firing pins/etc. for pre-1986 civilian-ownable automatic weapons. Civilians are only allowed to own pre-86 automatics, and the title goes with them. There are no more being made. They weigh something like a 1/4oz and are worth $5k. The Winner! The two kinds are a transferrable Lightning Link (Auto Connector is the less common, but more descriptive name) weighing in at about 7 grams, and even lighter (but more expensive!) an HK autosear. This trick question was tricky because it hinges on what's a machinegun* a question that involves very little logic since 1986. http://www.fjvollmer.com/autosear.htm says some of the sears cost less than $4 to manufacture... A stripped minigun receiver weighs about three pounds - at $325,000 divided by (3X16=) 48 ounces = $6770 per ounce (a relative bargain). However, rare earth metals (transuranic) are worth more; berkeleyium or something is like $150k/microgram. Fascinating, please send account number! (You too, Viking Hank!). Sticking solely to obtainable (IE non-fissile, no one-second half-life) elements on the periodic table, and on a world-not-just-USA market, would berkeleyum be the most expensive per gram that I can buy? (New contest?) JMR *Note: Owning the unregistered kind of these in the United States can cost you a large fine ten years (mandatory!) in federal prison. The owners of *legal* machineguns in the US, as you may have guessed, don't tend to use these multi-thousand dollar assets for knocking over their local 7-11 for a few hundred bucks. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: Ryan Wins!
CONGRATS RYAN. RJ http://www.americonn.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: Hmmmmmmmm
rare bullets??! :)... VERY warm, JP... revolution era musket balls? Viking Coder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Re: Ryan Wins!
would berkeleyum be the most expensive per gram that I can buy? I don't think so... according to WebElements - Berkelium is of no commercial importance. However, for Protactinium they say - It is one of the rarest and most expensive naturally occurring elements. At $280/g ($8000/oz), it is definitely much more expensive then gold. Viking Coder Worth Two Cents? http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?VikingCoder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] in search of new metals
Subject: in search of new metals Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:53:19 -0400 (AST) From: Ian Grigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sometime last week (the 2nd of August, 2001, to be precise) marked the expiry of a two-year exclusive that Systemics provided to DigiGold.net Ltd for its issuance of metals-based contracts for gold, silver, platinum, and palladium. Agreeing to that exclusive was something that I have not ever regretted, much to the dismay of the other would-be metals issuers. It allowed DigiGold to make their best effort to succeed without having to look over their shoulders all the time. Douglas Jackson, being the negotiating face of DigiGold, argued strongly for an exclusive on issuances denominated in the four precious metals, from 2nd August 1999 for two years, and this was accepted and signed into the agreement, and also memorialised in other evidence. Sad to say, the agreement with DigiGold.net Ltd didn't work out. The documents filed in the Anguilla High Court show that on or about November 2000, Systemics accepted DigiGold.net's termination of the agreement. The exclusive died as part of the agreement. It was never a question as to whether the exclusive died with the agreement itself, but one can imagine the court arguments on this issue. We decided to not really push the point until we could be sure. As of the 2nd of August, we know that the exclusive is expired as well as terminated. We have the dates set in the contract, and the retained emails to back up the full intention of both the parties on the meaning of those dates, so that any other interpretation by the courts or arbitrator would be obscure, indeed. This means that Systemics is now actively in search of issuers of metals. We are not offering an exclusive this time, as that makes less sense than it did two years ago. However, we are advising the people we are talking to to focus their offerings on a particular segment. There really is no point in just invading other people's patches at this stage in the market, as there are so many uncontested patches to gather without competition. An issuer of metal does not have a particularly hard job of it, compared to some other issuances. The contracts have been written, for the most part, by various parties, already; and we are starting to establish a contractual track record with the subsequent revisions by legal experts over the last twelve months. For repositories, there are now several easy choices. It is not necessary to store physical metal, as there are several systems that promise to do it for you; the last twelve months have seen the arisal of half a dozen new gold backed currencies, so much so that they have a new acronym: GBC. The main consideration that arises is to pick a GBC as a repository that gives you the governance equation and a marketing message that are aligned with your business. There is little point in picking a gaming GBC for a savings and investment concept; likewise, there may not be any point in paying percentage points for a top of the line governance system if you are only going to be offering gambling to your punters. Another thing that is very important to the business is having a customer base. The mousetrap strategy -- build it and they will come -- is not going to work any more. It will be too slow, because exponential growth is extraordinarily pathetic in the first few years, when measured in absolute terms. You probably need to have access, somehow, to a significant user base. In other words, you had better have a marketing strategy along with the skills, resources, and good luck to carry it out. One benefit of our current nascent metals world, the so- called gold economy, is the presence of market makers or exchange providers. The loading problem that bedevilled the payment systems experiments of the second half of the 1990s is a thing of the past now. Start to get to know those exchange providers, they are a critical part of the network. The major questions all derive from the marketing equation that one would set. What will users use this new currency for? There should be an application in mind, it is well established that you need to direct your marketing efforts to the activities of the users and not play the money-is-its-own-application card. Systemics provides the payment system, we call it Ricardo. But we don't necessarily provide the application. The most obvious application is retail, as we call it, and for that, we direct people to Intertrader, who have this handy-dandy CashBox product that helps to do the middleware. That product is demonstrable right now with SOX/Ricardo payments, and is now looking for some retail attention. We are hoping to be able to use it for our major exchange providers in the future. Ricardo excels at those applications that require serious non-revocability of the
[e-gold-list] Re: Ryan Wins!
At 02:55 PM + 08/07/2001, Ryan Lackey wrote: Receivers/firing pins/etc. for pre-1986 civilian-ownable automatic weapons. Civilians are only allowed to own pre-86 automatics, and the title goes with them. There are no more being made. They weigh something like a 1/4oz and are worth $5k. The Winner! Congratulations! (I would have got it but I was asleep!) --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
[e-gold-list] Sigh... (was Re: in search of new metals)
...and the trainwreck continues... Cheers, RAH --- begin forwarded text Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:53:19 -0400 (AST) From: Ian Grigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: in search of new metals Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sometime last week (the 2nd of August, 2001, to be precise) marked the expiry of a two-year exclusive that Systemics provided to DigiGold.net Ltd for its issuance of metals-based contracts for gold, silver, platinum, and palladium. Agreeing to that exclusive was something that I have not ever regretted, much to the dismay of the other would-be metals issuers. It allowed DigiGold to make their best effort to succeed without having to look over their shoulders all the time. Douglas Jackson, being the negotiating face of DigiGold, argued strongly for an exclusive on issuances denominated in the four precious metals, from 2nd August 1999 for two years, and this was accepted and signed into the agreement, and also memorialised in other evidence. Sad to say, the agreement with DigiGold.net Ltd didn't work out. The documents filed in the Anguilla High Court show that on or about November 2000, Systemics accepted DigiGold.net's termination of the agreement. The exclusive died as part of the agreement. It was never a question as to whether the exclusive died with the agreement itself, but one can imagine the court arguments on this issue. We decided to not really push the point until we could be sure. As of the 2nd of August, we know that the exclusive is expired as well as terminated. We have the dates set in the contract, and the retained emails to back up the full intention of both the parties on the meaning of those dates, so that any other interpretation by the courts or arbitrator would be obscure, indeed. This means that Systemics is now actively in search of issuers of metals. We are not offering an exclusive this time, as that makes less sense than it did two years ago. However, we are advising the people we are talking to to focus their offerings on a particular segment. There really is no point in just invading other people's patches at this stage in the market, as there are so many uncontested patches to gather without competition. An issuer of metal does not have a particularly hard job of it, compared to some other issuances. The contracts have been written, for the most part, by various parties, already; and we are starting to establish a contractual track record with the subsequent revisions by legal experts over the last twelve months. For repositories, there are now several easy choices. It is not necessary to store physical metal, as there are several systems that promise to do it for you; the last twelve months have seen the arisal of half a dozen new gold backed currencies, so much so that they have a new acronym: GBC. The main consideration that arises is to pick a GBC as a repository that gives you the governance equation and a marketing message that are aligned with your business. There is little point in picking a gaming GBC for a savings and investment concept; likewise, there may not be any point in paying percentage points for a top of the line governance system if you are only going to be offering gambling to your punters. Another thing that is very important to the business is having a customer base. The mousetrap strategy -- build it and they will come -- is not going to work any more. It will be too slow, because exponential growth is extraordinarily pathetic in the first few years, when measured in absolute terms. You probably need to have access, somehow, to a significant user base. In other words, you had better have a marketing strategy along with the skills, resources, and good luck to carry it out. One benefit of our current nascent metals world, the so- called gold economy, is the presence of market makers or exchange providers. The loading problem that bedevilled the payment systems experiments of the second half of the 1990s is a thing of the past now. Start to get to know those exchange providers, they are a critical part of the network. The major questions all derive from the marketing equation that one would set. What will users use this new currency for? There should be an application in mind, it is well established that you need to direct your marketing efforts to the activities of the users and not play the money-is-its-own-application card. Systemics provides the payment system, we call it Ricardo. But we don't necessarily provide the application. The most obvious application is retail, as we call it, and for that, we direct people to Intertrader, who have this handy-dandy CashBox product that helps to do the middleware. That product is demonstrable right now with SOX/Ricardo payments, and is now looking for some retail attention. We are hoping to be able to use it for our major exchange providers in the future. Ricardo excels at
[e-gold-list] Heavy!
Now that's a newsflash!!! (Coincidence that my first child will be born in about a week? :) ) Go, Systemics! Sometime last week (the 2nd of August, 2001, to be precise) marked the expiry of a two-year exclusive that Systemics provided to DigiGold.net Ltd for its issuance of metals-based contracts for gold, silver, platinum, and palladium. This means that Systemics is now actively in search of issuers of metals. Systemics provides the payment system, we call it Ricardo. In closing, we have the systems, and we would like to see some more metals issuances. Do not think that this is a cheap business. You will need serious funds for this. It is not a garage business by any stretch; the current record is held by DeutschesBank, who were rumoured to have paid a million dollars _per_month_, way back when, for a shot at their cash system. If you have access to a user base and a great idea, contact us. iang --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the new e-gold Secure Random Keypad can help you to protect your passphrase from both keystroke mouse- click sniffing trojan viruses? You can find out more about computer security at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html
