[e-gold-list] Re: Who still takes e-gold outexchanges?

[SnowDog]

> It seems like all the major ones have suspended their
> acceptance for e-gold at this point:

[...]

> Is there a run on e-gold?

Wow, there does appear to be a 'run' on e-gold. Notice, all, how a currency
which is 100% backed leads no one to panic.

I am surprised to see Goldfinger and Gaithman discontinue Out-Exchanges. I
would think they would simply increase the fees for out-exchanging, thereby
making a profit on the way out, as well as on the way in.

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[e-gold-list] Re: Who still takes e-gold outexchanges?

[SnowDog]

> I wish e-gold representatives would respond to these
> concerns, especially since their credibility is on the
> line at this point.
> How many different lawsuits are they embroiled in?

Can you elaborate? How is their credibility 'on the line'?

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[e-gold-list] Who still takes e-gold outexchanges?

[Dagny Taggart]

I was curious about who of the Market Makers still
takes OutExchanges for e-gold?
It seems like all the major ones have suspended their
acceptance for e-gold at this point:

http://www.goldfingercoin.com/e_gold.htm

http://www.gaithmans.com/sellgold.html

Is there a run on e-gold?

While we are on the topic of credibility:

Where can I find the information on the Swiss storage
arrangement posted ?
The entire paperwork on the Transguard and JP Morgan
Chase is posted on the e-gold web site, where is the
one for the Swiss agreement?
Or what exactly does it mean that there is no
arrangement posted? Is there, or is there not, gold
stored on behalf of the e-gold account holders in
Switzerland?

Also I noticed that the whole CostaGold affair still
has not been solved:

http://www.e-gold.com/pub-bal.asp

There are 4,110.66oz of gold frozen in an escrow
account, which means in effect that the e-gold
circulation is down to about 
129 or so bars from 150 two weeks ago?

So how accurate is the examiner?

I wish e-gold representatives would respond to these
concerns, especially since their credibility is on the
line at this point.
How many different lawsuits are they embroiled in?

Dagny

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[e-gold-list] After 911

[Julian Morrison]

I'm interested to hear if anyone has (considered, non-kneejerk) ideas as
to what impact the 911 attack and the govt's reactions will have on
e-gold as a system. Is the new "anti money laundering" talk likely to
make any hassle?

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[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold customer confidence down?

[BigBooster]

At 12:05 PM 10/04/2001 -0700, Dagny Taggart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Sold another six bars?
>
>Wow, I think that is a first to have six bars at once
>disappear from examiner?
>
>Dagny

It may not be related to customer confidence.

I know of someone who has collected well over a million $s
in e-gold (and OSGold) and shifted it into an offshore a/c for
an investment program.

Frederick Mann

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[e-gold-list] Re: Crashmaker

[jpm]

>At 02:47 AM 10/4/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Hey Joe!
>>
>>Why don't you sell Crashmaker by PROXY for e-gold?
>
>Sure I'll do it, why not! If anyone wants this book, I'll be glad to 
>sell it by proxy for e-gold. Just email me.

I'll buy one

Joe rocks!

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[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold customer confidence down?

[jpm]

>Sold another six bars?
>
>Wow, I think that is a first to have six bars at once
>disappear from examiner?
>
>Dagny


WOW ... 20 more bars and we'll call it a run!

Was this sparked by the spread being increased at Omnipay?

Or by the War?

Or by Dagny's Spicer's revelation?  :)

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[e-gold-list] Re: Crashmaker

[Joe Moorman]

At 02:47 AM 10/4/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hey Joe!
>
>Why don't you sell Crashmaker by PROXY for e-gold?

Sure I'll do it, why not! If anyone wants this book, I'll be glad to sell 
it by proxy for e-gold. Just email me.

In general, if anyone wants to buy just about anything with e-gold that 
they can't buy directly with e-gold, I'd probably be willing to do it for a 
very small fee...

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[e-gold-list] e-gold customer confidence down?

[Dagny Taggart]

Sold another six bars? 

Wow, I think that is a first to have six bars at once
disappear from examiner?

Dagny

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[e-gold-list] Re: New warning banner on spends

[SnowDog]

> My mistake. I meant on the login page.

Well THAT ought to do it!

SnowDog




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[e-gold-list] Re: New warning banner on spends

[SnowDog]

> This new banner on the spend page makes a lot of sense to warn 
> users. 

I couldn't find a banner on the spend page. Can you elaborate?

SnowDog



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[e-gold-list] New warning banner on spends

[C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.]

Excellent e-gold.

This new banner on the spend page makes a lot of sense to warn 
users. 

Claude

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[e-gold-list] The US Fed Dances

[Metanoic]

Subject: The US Fed Dances
From: James Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 09:44:45 -0400

The price of gold, the creation of the FRB and the well being of the U.S.
economy and that of the world are directly related and e-gold is an emerging
idea, reality and the worm that just might eat the heart out of the fiat
money and central banking system of credit based on fiat money.

The 16th Amendment and the creation of the FRB in 1913 may be the most
sinister acts taken again America, more devastating than any terrorist acts
by any person, group or thing and more damaging than AIDs or any biological
agent.

Anyway, CRA$HMAKER  is the novel, bar none, on the intertwining nature of
power, politics, control of  money and much more, woven into an exciting
novel of intrigue, a course in economics, banking and money.

The best and clearest exposition on money and banking, IMHO, are two
different books, written by Murray N. Rothbard.  He was an Austrian
Economist, who became the man who wrote the Libertarian Party position on
central banking and money policy used by Harry Browne and the party since
around 1985, I guess.  The titles are "The Case Against the Fed" and What
has the Government done to our money?" Each about 150 pages, written to be
understood, exlains the game afoot.

In The first one, he does give a solution for addressing the situation.

An aside, Murray was the first one that I read, but I have now read it in
additional sourcing, that makes the point that the dollar is NOT a federal
reserve note.  A DOLAR is a unit of measurement, defined in a very specific
amount of gold or silver.(Also, See MONRY, by Ewart)  That the FRN is not
even a note, as it lacks the four criteria to be a legal note.  It is a
chit, a token, nothing more.

More to the point I wanted to make.  Is it not funny, Murray points out,
that you can not take a FRN and exchange it for any thing other than another
FRN? As all of you are aware, the backing of any gold and your being able to
get it exists no longer.

But, here is the point, the Federal Reserve Banks have a singed agreement
that, if the U.S. government defaults on any payments to them, that the gold
in Fort Knox and elsewhere is forfeited and must be paid at the offical rate
and given in payment.

So subtle and down right dishonest.  the users of the FRS can no longer
exchange the fiat money for gold or silver, but the federal reserve banks,
get gold if the U.S. government ever defaults in any outstanding debts to
them!

NESARA.com has a viable solution.  Murray has another. Both suggest the
defanging of the FRS and returning the monetary systeme to some sembalance
of that defined by the U.S. Constitution, something the government and the
FED have ignored.  As it stands, the FRS is unconstitutional and it would
take an AMENDMENT to enact such a creature, but, as with so much in the 20th
century, the government and the people ignored the Constitution and let
legislators enact any and all things wanted; to hell with what the
Constitution says.  Create a FRS by legislation, even though the
Constitution specifically states otherwise.  Call the FRN a 'dollar' over
time, even though the dollar is a unit of measure and means exactly what it
was defined to be, but not means something else to those who refuse to know
the history of their own country.

Verbicide, so it is called by Ewart in "MONEY." In about 1890, Oliver
Wendell Holmes, MD, father of USSC Holmes appointed by President Theodore
("Teddy") Roosevelt, penned The Autocrat of the Breakfast Table, a humorous
sketch of his perceptions of life and people.  Dr. Holmes wrote:
"What are the great faults of conversation? Want goof ideas, wants of words,
want of manners, are the principle ones, I suppose you to think.

"I don't doubt it, but I will tell you what I have found spoil more good
talks than anything else; long arguments on special points between people
who differ on the fundamental principles on which these points depend.  No
men can have satisfactory relations with each other until they have agreed
on certain ultima of belief not to be disturbed in ordinary conversation,
and unless they have sense enough to trace the secondary questions depending
upon these ultimate beliefs to their source.  In short, just as a written
constitution is essential to the best of social order, so a code of
finalities is a necessary condition of profitable talk between two persons."

Later he wrote:
"Let me lay down the law upon the subject.  Life and language are alike
sacred.  Homicide and verbicide---that is, violent treatment of a word with
fatal results to its legitimate meaning, which is its life---are alike
forbidden"

Finally, he wrote:
"The great moralists says: 'To trifle with the vocabulary which is the
vehicle of intercourse is to tamper with the currency of the human
intelligence.' The infection spread to the national conscious. Political
double-dealings naturally grew out of verbal double meanings."

Gold and a fre

[e-gold-list] Re: vice or versa?

[Dagny Taggart]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >First Bank of Nova Scotia decided to stop doing
> >business with e-gold for whatever reasons and then
the
> >Spencer's, as Escrow agent felt uncomfortable with
> >what they may have heard about and so they gave up
the
> >job as escrow agents.

> How do you know this Dagny?>

The sentence previous to your quote said: 
hypothetical.
E-gold would know the answer for sure, though. :-)

> Did SPICERS stop doing business with E-GOLD, or did
 E-GOLD stop doing 
 business with SPICERS?
 
 Who fired who?  Or was it mutual!
Spicey!!! :)
 
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[e-gold-list] Re: escrow agent

[SnowDog]

> How can we trust the statements in examiner, if e-gold
> can not even inform its customers about a " simple "
> change in escrow arrangements?

That's why the Escrow Agent should be someone with high credibility. I, too,
am disappointed to see the Spencers go.

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[e-gold-list] attn fun bond experts

[jpm]

>There are currently:   46   FunBonds available for purchase.


Should I buy now to treble my money again?  Thanks :O


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[e-gold-list] vice or versa?

[jpm]

>First Bank of Nova Scotia decided to stop doing
>business with e-gold for whatever reasons and then the
>Spencer's, as Escrow agent felt uncomfortable with
>what they may have heard about and so they gave up the
>job as escrow agents.

How do you know this Dagny?

Did SPICERS stop doing business with E-GOLD, or did E-GOLD stop doing 
business with SPICERS?

Who fired who?  Or was it mutual!

Spicey!!! :)

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[e-gold-list] Crashmaker

[jpm]

Hey Joe!

Why don't you sell Crashmaker by PROXY for e-gold?

Someone could do this!

I refuse to pay for the book with credit card or check! :)  I want to 
use a DGC.

JPM

>On 3 Oct 2001, at 18:01, Bob wrote:
>
>> Spend US$ 60 on Cra$hmaker and you've got a huge chunk of it.
>> And it doesn't take 4 years to read.
>
>Bob,
>
>I am only a few chapters into Crashmaker and can hardly stop
>reading. I am hooked!!!
>Claude


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[e-gold-list] central escrow agency

[jpm]

>Earlier this year e-gold moved its gold from Scotia-Mocatta in
>Toronto to other vaults in London, Dubai and Zurich. I thought it
>was no big deal even if I could not find a logical explanation, since
>Scotia is among the best in the world.
>But now I see that Central Escrow Agency which use to be e-gold
>escrow agent is no longer there.

Ah ha, nicely spotted Claude!

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