[e-gold-list] article: A Marriage of Security Convenience
I have to admit, I *love* my Speedpass. I find myself seeking out Mobil stations so I can use it. I think Speedpass may have a 'grams' wallet, eventually, but I'd want more authentication than has Jim's keys! before I felt as good about using it for spends -- with dollars, currently I'm (supposedly) not at risk for theft, they even cover the fifty bucks I'd be out if the card were stolen, they claim, but I don't wish to test that feature! It's neat-o technology. Speedpass is at www.speedpass.com JMR http://www.americanbanker.com/printthis.html?id=20020506RC9KW20Dfrom=Home American Banker A Marriage of Security and Convenience From: Card Technology Thursday, May 16, 2002 Millions of consumers pay for gasoline by waving a small token, like the ExxonMobil Speedpass, near a pump. And millions more ride subways and buses each day by waving a contactless smart card past a turnstile. Wouldn't it be great if there were one token consumers could use to pay for many things, and not just in their home towns, but around the world? That has not been feasible up until now because the encryption technology used to secure financial transactions when many merchants or service providers are involved took too long to complete a transaction. What's more, this technology, known as public key, requires too much power for devices such as these that are powered up by a radio frequency signal from a reader. But at least three makers of smart card chips are looking seriously at a new encryption system that its developers claim can work quickly enough to be used in transit systems, and that would dramatically lower the price of contactless cards sophisticated enough for use in retail payment applications. The technology is from a Burlington, Mass.-based company called NTRU, which has attracted $38 million in financing in the past two years. Among the investors are technology giants Texas Instruments and Sony Corp. Both companies confirm their interest in using NTRU technology in mobile devices, pointing out that NTRU requires less processing power and electrical energy than other encryption systems. [...] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] re: New Report
However, only GoldMoney actually operates on a definite gold ownership transfer basis. Craig Spencer wrote: This is a difference that makes no difference. Claude Cormier wrote: I think it makes at least one difference for now. One of perception. When I suggest to people who want to buy gold that they have the choice between gold itself in the form of digital money and a digital currency backed by gold, they say they want the real thing. It is a matter of perception and important in the eyes of many...i.e. mining companies who will be paying gold dividends. Claude, I think empirical and historical evidence suggests that this perception is not as important as you suggest. It appears that Evocash and Osgold do exceptionally well considering they have no proven gold backing at all. Certainly e-gold appears to be a giant in comparison to all the other DC's commonly mentioned on this list. Claude, how can we believe that people prefer GoldMoney because they percieve it to be the real thing? Since very early in the history of money, people around the world have been happy to use receipts, notes etc. in place of the real thing because its more convenient and often more secure. Claude, surely this will not change? Claude Cormier wrote: Of course, on the legal side, a digital gold currency is very much different than a currency backed by gold (even if backed at 100%). In the first case, the owner of the DGC hold a hard asset, in the later case, the ower of the GBC owns someone else liability.Is this important? I am not sure. But the fact that some user agreements of GBC's can be change by the issuer could make this difference very important. In the GoldMoney system, no matter what happen to the transporter, I own the gold in the vault. In GBC's system I only own a claim on some gold that does not belong to me. Claude, these legal intricacies seem to make great marketing tools, but to really expose the difference between say, e-gold and GoldMoney, let's examine the practicalities. Let us imagine for a moment that through some terrible disaster, GM Networks Ltd (Goldmoney) and e-gold both lost their entire database of customer accounts (some will say this is impossible, but that is not the point, bear with me). Now I (as a GoldMoney account holder) want my gold, and I know I hold title to it, so I pop down to the Via Mat vault and I tell them I've come for my gold. Do they have a record of gold belonging to me? I doubt it, they will probably tell me that they don't have records of any gold belonging to me, and if I believe I have a claim on the gold held by GM Networks Ltd. then I should contact them to take posession of my gold. Of course the DB is gone, so Goldmoney don't know how much to give me. Imagine they pay me out; if they give me too much, they won't be able to stand by their promise to pay all the other Goldmoney users! It is clear to see that for all practical purposes GoldMoney is just like e-gold... they are both gold backed digital notes, the terms of which are published in the respective user agreements. Both systems would be in exactly the same predicament if they lost their DB... how to honour their promise to pay? GoldMoney have a governance policy that gives users reasonable confidence that the digital notes issued by GoldMoney are 100% backed by gold. The e-gold governance allows for a looser relationship between the digital notes and the gold. This may give users a perception of greater security in GoldMoney, but surely Claude, to believe GoldMoney is more secure because you have title to the gold is to mislead yourself? I think Craig is correct when he says, This is a difference that makes no difference. Regards, Sidd. ~~~ http://two-cents-worth.com/?sidd http://pecunix.com ~~~ - Faxes delivered directly to any email address, new to mBox! Find out more http://www.mbox.com.au/fax --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Gold Today back online
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[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] re: New Report
From: Sidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us imagine for a moment that through some terrible disaster, GM Networks Ltd (Goldmoney) and e-gold both lost their entire database of customer accounts ... It is clear to see that for all practical purposes GoldMoney is just like e-gold... they are both gold backed digital notes, the terms of which are published in the respective user agreements. Both systems would be in exactly the same predicament if they lost their DB... how to honour their promise to pay? Sidd: I think that's an overly catastrophic scenario, kind of like talking about what would happen if an asteroid hit the planet. I'm more interested in the practical differences between the two arrangements if NO massive disaster occurred. Let's say for example, either e-gold or GoldMoney decide to go out of business. Not because they're failing or intend to default on obligations, but just because they feel like doing something else. What are the practical differences here? If GoldMoney goes out of business, they must either give you your gold or give you your proportional share of a liquidation sale, payable in fiat currency I suppose. If E-gold goes out of business, they must ... uh ... either give you your gold or give you your proportional share of a liquidation sale, payable in fiat currency I suppose. I'm not trying to be cute here, but I do have a hard time discerning a difference between owning a thing versus having a CLAIM on a thing. What IS a claim anyway? A claim of ownership! If you have a valid claim on a thing, don't you own the thing? By the way, it is not a sufficient answer to say, Well, the difference is due to recent legal interpretations, with precedents in English Common Law, blah, blah, blah. That may all be true, but I want to know what the actual difference is, not in terms of legal wording, but in terms of how it plays out in the real world. In other words, describe two scenarios that are visibly different. Is one system stronger than the other because certain people will go to prison if they don't make good on an obligation? Define the difference in concrete terms. I think Craig is correct when he says, This is a difference that makes no difference. Possibly, unless someone can specify the difference in concrete terms. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] re: New Report
I think Craig is correct when he says, This is a difference that makes no difference. Possibly, unless someone can specify the difference in concrete terms. Yeah, let's have it .. ? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] re: New Report
I think Craig is correct when he says, This is a difference that makes no difference. Possibly, unless someone can specify the difference in concrete terms. Here's a possibility, but quite small in probability, I think: Let's say that Joe Blow has his account hacked and, without his knowledge, loses $2 million dollars in gold. A judge, looking at E-Gold might conclude that E-Gold LTD is liable, and order them to pay, using all of THEIR assets, including the community gold. A judge MAY, (but maybe not), rule differently if the theft were in GoldMoney. Craig (SnowDog) --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] The Digital Monetary Trust takes g-dinar's
What is the Digital Monetary Trust? http://www.aci.net/kalliste/dmt-faq.htm The Digital Monetary Trust is a computer system and mechanism that gives users the ability to hold assets anonymously, along with the ability to anonymously transfer these assets to other parties. You can think of a DMT customer account as an anonymously-held checking account (in which the customer is anonymous both to the bank and to other people), but one which allows the customer to write checks to third parties (and these third parties will also be anonymous to the bank and the outside world; in fact, you can even arrange for the receiver of your check to be anonymous to you also). The checking account analogy here is only an analogy; there are no actual paper records involved within the DMT system. enjoy, don --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Domain mgrs beware VeriSign marketing ploy
This may be off topic, but it could affect those managing domains in the DGC community. I recently got a bill from VeriSign indicating a couple domains I manage were expiring and I needed to act immediately. After reading closely I determined they were using a ploy to get me to transfer my domain from my current registrar. Anyway, I bring this up cause it can be a bear to switch. don --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] re: New Report
Your scenario suggests that the victim would be WORSE off with GoldMoney, having no recourse at all because the $2 million is not a liability of GoldMoney. Right, but if someone lost $2 million in the E-gold system, and a judge subsequently ordered E-Gold LTD to compensate the victim, using the gold, if necessary -- then the integrity of the E-Gold system would be compromised for the other users. The gold must NOT be thought of as an asset of the corporation operating the currency. Craig (SnowDog) --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] re: New Report
This ground was already covered throughly last Feburary, for a full explanation see this article. http://www.goldeconomy.com/article.php?sid=169 This article will take a closer look at some of the claims made by GoldMoney and ask some hard questions. The question has been raised whether the term backed should be used in reference to digital gold currencies. There is some controversy surrounding this issue. James Turk, the founder of GoldMoney says, I don't want to sound pedantic on this point, but I think it is important to note that GoldMoney is not a Gold Backed Currency (GBC). GoldGrams are not backed by gold; rather, they are gold. GBC's are a thing of the past, and a throwback to fractional reserve banking. As the inventor of digital gold currency, we believe that to be correct on this point GoldMoney should be called a Digital Gold Currency. There is a problem with this assertion, however. When I spend 1.0 GoldGrams to another person, a physical gram of gold does not pass through the wires of the Internet. For that matter, a physical 1 gram piece of gold does not exist in the ViaMat vault where GoldMoney stores gold for its account holders. When I make a 1.0 GoldGram spend there is an instruction sent over the wire to transfer my claim on 1 gram of gold in the GoldMoney system (presumably part of an 11 kg bar) to another holding. This is important to think about because the GoldMoney patent that was granted to James Turk by the US Patent Office says that Mr. Turk created a new invention because digital gold extinguishes payment obligation instantly, thereby eliminating payment risk. The basis of this claim is that the GoldMoney account holder directly owns the gold in the vault. Can this be possible? There is a significant difference between a claim and a title. A title is a legal instrument giving ownership of a specific asset. You can obtain the title for a particular 1996 Nissan Sentra. The title has a serial number identifying the particular vehicle. Likewise, with land, a non-movable asset, a real estate title is a claim to a specific piece of land defined by meets and bounds. You cannot get a title to a Nissan Sentra or a title to an acre of land. Title requires a specific tangible asset be identified with a specific owner. A claim can be functionally similar to a title, but it does not attach to a specific asset, because a claim is a liability against a person or organization. A bank deposit receipt can be considered a claim on the money you just put in the bank, but it doesnt identify which particular dollar bills you own, because the bank owns the dollar bills, and you have a claim against the bank. The bank can give you any dollar bills from its pile to redeem your claim. Likewise, a car dealership could issue a lottery in which they give away a new corvette. The person with the winning ticket can present it as a claim against the dealership for one corvette, the winning ticket is not a title to the 2001 Red Corvette in the showroom. Not until they fulfill his claim by giving him a corvette does the winner obtain title to a particular corvette that he now owns. The reason that the distinction between claim and title is important in the case of GoldMoney is that the company claims to eliminate currency risk by making the GoldGram holder the actual owner of the gold in the vault with no intermediaries. However, as we will show below, this is impossible with the present GoldMoney infrastructure. The GoldMoney patent for gold as a digital currency defines a deposit currency as the liability of the banks that accept deposits of a countrys national currency. The patent then goes on to claim that a GoldMoney transaction eliminates payment risk because once the transfer has been made the gold asset itself extinguishes any debt liability and the payee now holds an asset instead of a promise to pay. A one-dollar bill is a promise to pay that is a liability to the bank, but a one ounce gold coin in your pocket is an asset. In effect, GoldMoney is claiming that GoldGrams are the same thing as a physical gold coin in your pocket, but safer. However, it is the contention of this writer that the GoldMoney system functions in a manner identical to deposit currency the only difference being that the system uses gold by mass instead of national currency to denominate its account liabilities. Whether or not the liabilities are backed by 100% tangible assets or fractional reserve has no bearing on the nature of the invention itself, because the reserves backing the claims against the institution are governed by the policy of the issuing institution, not an invention. ViaMat, like all bullion storage vaults, has an inventory list of every bullion bar in its vault with a serial number, exact weight, fineness, and owner for that bar. The bars vary in exact weight and fineness making one different and
[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] re: New Report
Some food for thought ... eg, The owner of the GoldMoney bullion bars is the aggregate of all GoldGram account holders. It is impossible to identify which grams of gold in the vault belong to which account. eg, There is a problem with this assertion, however. When I spend 1.0 GoldGrams to another person, a physical gram of gold does not pass through the wires of the Internet. For that matter, a physical 1 gram piece of gold does not exist in the ViaMat vault where GoldMoney stores gold for its account holders. Yes, but that's the case in alomst ANY sale. When you sell MSFT shares to Biff by telephoning your broker, the physical certificates don't pass through the internet MSFT shares -- as with most ownership described by clear title of ownership - are not molecularly identifiable, you can't front to Redlands and ask for half a dozen programmers and a small building if you own a million MSFT shares. Most real estate titles are non molecularly identifiable: you own title to an apartment, it is just a share of a large building; usually of the enterprise containing that building. actual land titles (earth, real estate) (like fee simple titles) are notoriously non-molecularly-identifiable; there are endless vagaries and sharings relating to what's under the ground, at different depths, in the air (cf. air rights in Manhattan re tall buildings), boundaries, etc. you own a car with your wife, you cant identify each half's molecules. Or let's say you buy a new car and get title to it: 40% of the VALUE of that thing is not the metal car per se, but the 5-year-100,000 mile warranty that Mercedes offer, which is a vague sort of contract-thing with a public company entity and its network of dealer-franchizes This kind of primitivist I really OWN this-here hammer in my pocket business applies only in very, very rare situations. Actualy, whenever paperwork - titles, contracts, mortgages, deeds, and the rest - is involved its hard to think of an example where you sort of molecularly own anything. GoldMoney has not invented anything new. It has merely assembled a permutation of the prior arts of ... I don't know what invention means legally, but patents (the legal thing) in the US specifically talk about assembling permutations of prior arts .. that's what you get a patent on. Since the GoldMoney patent claims that the invention of digital gold currency is distinctively different than a deposit currency because the account holder is the title owner of the gold in the vault, then as long as the other gold backed currencies do not make this claim, they cannot be in violation of the Turk Patent. nah, they could be in violation for a zillion reasons. As you say .. Of course I am not a patent lawyer Right. It's fascinating to discuss ideas about the patent(s) but it's pointless to try to guess what will happen in court, I reckon. But let us hope for the sake of the free market that e-gold wins. Well if one is an anti-patent generally sort of anarcho-libertarian viewpoint -- fair enough. As I've mentioned before, what the actual market needs (ie the actual field of commerce here in Europe/USA today) is CERTAINTY, ie, they need the patent battle to have BEEN FOUGHT, and over with. I can't see that it makes any differences who wins. The good thing is that the battle's been fought and settled. When IBM/Walmart/Citybank come along and want to do DGC properly, if James has won, then IBM/Walmart/Citybank will just unexcitedly licence the technology. When IBM/Walmart/Citybank come along and want to do DGC properly, if Doug has won, then come along and want to do DGC properly, will unexcitedly not license the technology. If however IBM/Walmart/Citybank come along and want to do DGC properly, and the patent issues had NOT been settled, then they'd just say to themselves oh, sad little amateurish industry, nothing can be done there .. you know? It really also makes little difference who has the patent. If, as it happens, egold had gotten in first and beaten gm to the punch, it would be the other way around, but I can't see it would make any difference for the economy or the industry as a whole -- so long as the issues are settled and clear. JP! -- --- If it can't scale fast and big you got nuthin' --- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] how do I get money in?
Hello everbody, 1. sorry this basic question again! I like to send money to my account from germany. I have visa, paypal, or bankaccount! So what is the next step? 2. can I use amex-moneyorder also? 3. can I get money by moneyorder also? 4. How about getting metal to Germany? Ok, that all for now. Please help! Michael Hintz Germany, Luebeck --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] RE: how do I get money in?
Michael, 1. sorry this basic question again! I like to send money to my account from germany. I have visa, paypal, or bankaccount! So what is the next step? Use Fidex, enter a transaction on our website in Euros and you will be given details of our correspondent account and BLZ at Deutsche Bank. Just transfer the money there and your e-gold will be with you soon! Go to: http://www.e-fidex.com/wireincome.php?l=eng 2. can I use amex-moneyorder also? Yes you can, send it to us by mail. 3. can I get money by moneyorder also? We can do that too. 4. How about getting metal to Germany? Sorry, can't help you there, but I'm sure someone on this list can. Regards Nick Scott Fidex Group --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] New Report
Patrick, James et al, There is one point that needs clarifying in my mind, and this has nothing to do with patents or other legal mysteries... Very simply, there is a pile of gold in the viamat vault. Somebody has the key to the vault. In other words, someone has authority to put their hands on that gold and take it out of the vault, or to put more in. Is this correct? As a GoldMoney user, I do not have that authority... so I must rely on the promise of the person(s) who have the authority that they will indeed give me my share if I demand it. Is this correct? So please clarify for me, can I walk up to the vault and extract the gold or must I work through a third party(ies)? If so, then obviously I need to trust them to uphold their promise to honour the contract... Sidd. ~~~ http://two-cents-worth.com/?sidd http://pecunix.com ~~~ - NEW to mBox, receive faxes to any email address! Find out more http://www.mbox.com.au/fax --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] I need s.o. to pay with Credit Card - I will pay him with egold +fee
hello, I need somebody to pay for the personal service of www.gotomypc.com which is $20 per month with his credit card because I do not have credit card and they do not accept anything else. I have egold and I was hoping somebody to help me pay it for 2 months and I am ready to pay him $20 fee for the service (i.e. send him $60 in egold) Looking forward to hearing from serious people ( I will prefer to be contacted by egold exchange service providers as they are well known people) My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Steve --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] John Quarterman Debates the Dangers of Internet Monoculture
--- begin forwarded text Status: U Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 16:57:18 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: John Quarterman Debates the Dangers of Internet Monoculture Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/f_headline.cgi?day1/221402573ticker= BW2573 MAY 20,2002 10:27 PACIFIC 13:27 EASTERN ( BW)(MA-MATRIX-NET) John Quarterman Debates the Dangers of Internet Monoculture; Founder of Matrix NetSystems addresses the Digital Commerce Society of Boston at the Harvard Club Business/Technology Editors BOSTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 20, 2002--John Quarterman, founder and CTO of Matrix NetSystems is speaking at the next meeting of the Digital Commerce Society of Boston, June 4, 2002. His presentation, Network Monoculture: Diversity, Survivability, and the Profitability of Internet Commerce will look at the effects of natural and unnatural disasters on Internet performance. An economy based on one crop is fragile, because a single disease, parasite or weather anomaly, could destroy both crop and the economy it supported. The same goes for monoculture communications providers, said John Quarterman. On September 11, the one main telephone company in New York City suffered under excessive demand. The Internet survived, with several providers, keeping people in touch by email and IM. Quarterman describes the Internet as an ecosystem, composed of many interacting parts, ISPs, datacenters, enterprises, end-users, each of them drawing sustenance from the others and from raw materials. He explains how each of them needs to make informed decisions, to create a true market. Diversity will enhance corporate, national and world security. Visibility enables differentiation and thus selection. Making Internet performance visible to ISPs, bandwidth traders and customers can enable evolution of the Internet ecology, and will make this market, added Quarterman. Matrix NetSystems measures Internet performance, verifies service levels and customer connectivity, and offers optimization recommendations. The Insight Management Suite is the first managed service able to quickly identify and isolate Internet performance problems down to the router IP address level globally, on a 24x7 basis. Formed in 1990 (as MIDS) Matrix NetSystems was the first organization to record Internet performance data, as well as create a daily topology and ISP ratings (ratings.matrixnetsystems.com) that are cited the world over. John Quarterman has written seven books related to the Internet, including `The Matrix', the first and only published work to describe all computer networks worldwide. He has consulted for Hewlett Packard, Digital Equipment Corp., MCI, ATT and IBM. The event is taking place on Tuesday, June 4 from 12:00pm - 2:00pm at The Downtown Harvard Club of Boston, One Federal Street. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for tickets. About Matrix NetSystems Formed in 1990 (as MIDS) Austin, Texas-based Matrix NetSystems is harnessing its decade of intellectual capital and productizing it to solve today's Internet-related issues. Today the company offers Matrix Insight, a managed Internet performance measurement service. WithMatrix Insight, enterprise customers gain accurate performance information for the selection, monitoring and management of Internet infrastructure and service providers, resulting in lower costs, as well as improved customer retention. For additional information visit www.matrixnetsystems.com. --30--es/bos* CONTACT: LEWIS PR Alison Merifield 617 / 454 -1104 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KEYWORD: MASSACHUSETTS INDUSTRY KEYWORD: COMPUTERS/ELECTRONICS E-COMMERCE HARDWARE INTERNET NETWORKING SOURCE: Matrix NetSystems ©2002 -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with one line of text: help. --- end forwarded text -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold
[e-gold-list] I need s.o. to pay with Credit Card
I need somebody to pay for the personal service of www.gotomypc.com which is $20 per month with his credit card because I do not have credit card and they do not accept anything else. I have egold and I was hoping somebody to help me pay it for 2 months and I am ready to pay him $20 fee for the service It would be much simpler and cheaper just to open a netSpend account and transfer $40 to it from e-gold with http://www.NetGoldSpend.com Then you could make your payment yourself with one of netSpend's single use credit cards. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] RE: I need s.o. to pay with Credit Card
It would be much simpler and cheaper just to open a netSpend account and transfer $40 to it from e-gold with http://www.NetGoldSpend.com Then you could make your payment yourself with one of netSpend's single use credit cards. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds wonderful but how does it work? I looked at netgoldspend.com and could not see anything about opening an account nor anything about single use credit cards...? Tell us... I'm sure if you can offer this service you will have lots of clients... Regards Nick Fidex --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] RE: I need s.o. to pay with Credit Card
Dear Nick, ... netSpend's single use credit cards. Sounds wonderful but how does it work? I looked at netgoldspend.com and could not see anything about opening an account nor anything about single use credit cards...? NetGoldSpend and netSpend are two entirely unrelated businesses. Go to http://www.netspend.com to open a netSpend account and learn about their single use credit cards. Go to http://www.NetGoldSpend.com to convert digital gold into netSpend account balances. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Would Andrew Jackson look pretty in pink?
When I met Thomas R. Hipschen, he mentioned-without-saying that this was a possibility (as I questioned him, he said he'd have to kill me if he actually did tell me anything!). Mr. Hipschen is the artist who did all the new large portraits on US currency, and (like our mutual friend Boggs) he thinks a lot about counterfeiting as part of his job, so listening to him was fascinating! JMR Would Andrew Jackson look pretty in pink? From: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:29:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/news/0502/15currency.htmlhttp://www.accessatlanta. com/ajc/news/0502/15currency.html [ The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: 5/15/02 ] U.S. weighs colored currency to thwart counterfeiters By WILLIAM WAN Cox News Service WASHINGTON -- Would Andrew Jackson look pretty in pink? We may find out soon. Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill is considering printing U.S. currency in different colors to stay one step ahead of counterfeiters. The government redesigned bank notes starting in 1996 with new anti-counterfeiting measures, but the changes merely kept the percentage of bogus bills from increasing. Officials say that as criminals adopt new technology, new modifications will be needed every few years. Colorful cash is the first step. The Treasury Department hasn't decided which denominations to print in which colors, but says it may start issuing the new money, code-named NexGen, as soon as the middle of next year. All indications are that the program is on track and we're going to redesign, said Jim Hagedorn, spokesman for the U.S. Bureau of Engraving and Printing. But it depends on O'Neill. He could still say no. Treasury officials have testified the last two years before Congress that redesigning currency is the only way to keep up with counterfeiters. Expect a new look every seven to 10 years, said Hagedorn. Last year authorities seized $66.6 million in counterfeit notes and found another $49 million in circulation, according to the Secret Service. Only about three-hundreds of 1 percent of the currency in circulation is counterfeit, but technology has made the job easier. Since the 1996 redesign, counterfeiting in general has leveled off, but the percentage generated by computers jumped from 0.5 in 1995 to nearly 50 percent in 2000. The new 1996 bills came just in time to prevent a boom in counterfeiting, said James Mackin, an agent with the Secret Service's counterfeiting division. Old-school forgeries required hard-to-make plates, paper embedded with red and blue security fibers, and a printing press half the size of a Volkswagen. With laser printers, color copiers and scanners, you skip the whole process, said Mackin. The quality is worse, but it's still good enough -- all you have to do is fool one person. How color might prevent the next counterfeiting boom was something that no U.S. official would discuss. It all depends on the combination of colors used, said Paul Marsch of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Canadians have been printing colored money for over 66 years, but counterfeiting there remains a problem. The color now used in Canadian notes does nothing against counterfeiting, said Marsch, but the potential is there. There's also a practical side to color. You'll find it's easier to spot the different bills, he said. If O'Neill approves the NexGen program, the process of printing currency would stay largely the same. The biggest change in printing NexGen bills would be that the off-white paper used now would first be stained front and back with subtle color. Producing the NexGen bills would cost about $1 million a year, relatively little in federal government terms. But the advertising campaign could cost as much as $50 million, according to the Bureau of Printing and Engraving. NexGen designers already have plans to work with businesses and agencies that use machines that accept large-denomination bills, such as the U.S. Postal Service, public transit systems and casinos. Most ordinary vending machines won't need adjustments, because the rarely counterfeited $1 and $2 bills won't change. U.S. bank notes had changed little for 65 years until 1996, when a surge of counterfeiting inspired changes in the $100 bill down to the $5 over four years. The redesigned bills had new watermarks, bigger and off-center portraits, color-shifting ink that changed hue when viewed from different angles, microprinted text that photocopiers can't reproduce, and embedded plastic security threads that glow different colors for each denomination under ultraviolet light. But such changes -- and even colorful currency -- are tame compared to some foreign currencies, which feature plastic paper, holograms, metallic patches and secret words that light up under ultraviolet rays. With lower circulation, other countries can afford more elaborate security features. U.S. currency is the most widely circulated
[e-gold-list] New site accepting e-gold
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[e-gold-list] RE: I need s.o. to pay with Credit Card
From: Fidex Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds wonderful but how does it work? I looked at netgoldspend.com and could not see anything about opening an account nor anything about single use credit cards...? Tell us... I'm sure if you can offer this service you will have lots of clients... You need to look at http://www.netspend.com first. The http://www.netgoldspend.com site is the market-maker part built on top of NetSpend. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
