[e-gold-list] Re: (new twist on premium...)
Dear Ed, First of all, I'm not a tax accountant or a lawyer, and therefore cannot offer a learned opinion on your situation. But, I suspect that if you carefully examine the actual laws governing tax obligations in the United States, as Bob Schulz and numerous others have done, you'll find that you quite possibly don't owe any. On Thursday 14 November 2002, Bob met a crowd of enthusiasts in Washington, DC with the slogan, No answers = no taxes. I think he has made a very good case that nobody actually owes the taxes that are being extorted, in which case what you say about the Silver Liberty is certainly true of all money. However, what gave you the idea that Liberty currency isn't taxable? I believe the documentation is quite bold face, on the web site and in the redemption center kit, that the Liberty currency is not a tool for evading taxes. You must acknowledge that you were informed on this matter, I think, as it is more sporting that way. grin Taxes at all levels are around 50%, I think, if one counts all import duties, all levels of government, including homeowner association busy bodies, and the many hidden taxes such as gasoline tax and inflation. But, when you consider the economic multiplier effect of taxes, imagine what would happen if taxes were to be eliminated. Prices would drop dramatically, since each shopkeeper and merchant has to charge enough on his goods and services to make his profit, plus that of the government. You pay your taxes, and so does he, so your prices to him are higher and his to you. In the case of government, we can certainly ask James Turk's question: what is the value added? If they have no actual law obligating the paying of taxes, and if they come and take money from your wages or levy your bank account or seize your property, are they not simply thieves? And what is the correct individual property owner's proper response to a thief? Redemption centers are not market makers exactly. They provide local redemption opportunities, and often are also Liberty merchants, accepting the Silver Liberty for products and services. The process of becoming a redemption center is easy, though. You send $250 to NORFED.org, put my name in as your sponsor. NORFED sends me a sponsor fee of $100, and you e-mail me so I can send you $50. (We are using the FRN dollar accounting unit throughout, but I'm happy to pay in dollar's worth of e-gold or in Liberty Dollars if you would prefer; out of respect for James I won't offer GoldMoney; also please understand that my redemption center is my personal business.) As far as Bernard makes lots I don't think so. He's a pretty modest guy, with simple needs. He travels around a lot, has a home somewhere on Treasure Island in Florida, and works very long hours. What is vital to know is that Bernard would hang it up tomorrow and walk away happy if the Federal Reserve Act were repealed and the IRS were eliminated. That's what NORFED stands for: the National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and the IRS. Who here believes that either of those events are going to happen without widespread public education throughout the United States, beginning with a movement to deny the issue power over money to government? I think the number one issue in America today, all of the Hemisphere in fact, is the abuse of monetary power. This abuse is felt in the behavior of the IMF in countries like Ecuador and Bolivia, it is felt most powerfully today in Argentina, and it is experienced in the United States, although few realize what is being done. A very great many Americans, and certainly a huge number of Texans, understand that there is something wrong about the Federal Reserve. The redemption centers certainly stand to make a good return on their investment. Sponsor a few others to be redemption centers, move your monetary behavior into the monetary alternatives, and you'll reap significant rewards. But, so do the people who use metal money (of all kinds) and step away from the precipice of hyperinflation and the destructive power of the authoritarians controlling the currency. If we could pay Bernard enough money and he had the power to wave a magic wand once that amount were paid him, and by that wave of the hand he could make the Federal Reserve Act be repealed and the IRS brought low, how much do you suppose it would be worth to have that happen? What would be the economic implications of that sort of event on the engines of free enterprise? What if he could pay us, instead, to make it happen for him? How much would it be worth, if you were paid to make it happen? The issue of critical mass is actually quite vital. How many people does it take? I do not know. But, I'll tell you this much: who else have we got? If we won't do it, if we won't take control of our monetary power, who will? Put it another way, who already has? Can we afford to leave the issue power of money in the hands of the central bankers and
[e-gold-list] AnyGoldNow.com
Hi Patrick, I am waiting for the funding of my e-gold account. I sent you the receipt that the sends have been sent and I checked with Western Union and they told me you have received the money transfer for me. I am waiting Geronia Bowman __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] BAD EXPERIENCE: STAY AWAY FROM ANYGOLDNOW.COM
Hi dear list Something bad happenned and I am thinking of sending them to justice. I wanted to fund my e-gold account through Western Union, so I sent a transfer to the details www.AnyGoldNow.com provided on their website. Patrick Verbeeck immediately picked up the transfer, but he failed to fund my e-gold account since last 3 days, requesting me to fax him PHOTO ID and LATEST UTILITY BILL. In the 3rd millenium economy, I can't beleieve IDENTITY THEFTS stilll happen at such a large scale. HE REFUSED TO SEND MY MONEY BACK until I provide him with my PHOTO ID and utility bill. There is no more privacy, I SENT HIM THE WESTERN UNION RECEIPT, I tried to call him but his phone rings occupied all the time (maybe for all angry customers he just leave his phone opened so noone can call) I OFFICIALLY REQUEST HIM EITHER TO FUND MY E-GOLD ACCOUNT OR TO GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK. And we're not talking here a small amount, we're talking 3000 USD I will take it to court if needed Sincerely yours Hakeem Davis __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] 1. and 2. clear points
1. You showed NO PROOF my order was fraudulent 2. Once YOU TOOK MY MONEY OUT FROM WESTERN UNION, you took in order to complete the order and process the order ? As I see, you did not process the order, then you ILLEGALLY PICKED UP MY MONEY and you are COMITTING FRAUD by keeping ILLEGALLY MY MONEY Western Union has been informed and soon all the exchange prviders the same. I have nothing left to do then to track you down and get my money back from the electronic criminal that you are, Patrick ! Hakeem Davis --- AnyGoldNow (SSL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's have some fun on this one : «Customer Protection In order to protect our customers' interests, their Gold Accounts, and funds, AnyGoldNow may investigate any trade that might be suspicious or questionable. In such cases, customers may be asked to provide picture ID and/or other pertinent information, in order to prove that they are indeed legitimate customers. Should proper information or documentation not be supplied to its satisfaction, AnyGoldNow reserves the right to refuse service and not process orders» __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] 100% entry bonus at the New York E-Gold Casino!
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[e-gold-list] Re: Moderator message, please read. Re: ahahahahaha !!!!!!!!!
Folks, I know the emotions are high these days, but if we could leave off the profanities I won't be forced to moderate. Thanks in advance for expressing yourselves strongly-but-civilly. Also, I hope that few-not-many messages to this list will become the last-not-first resort, when people have issues with exchange services. Thanks to all for your cooperation in remembering this is a family list. JMR -- wearing my moderator-hat. Jim, you should kick that guy off of the list for impersonating Graham Kelly. That's illegal behavior. Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Introduction
Hello Everyone, I just signed up to the e-gold list and wanted to introduce myself. My name is Rowdy Rhodes, from Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Sometimes called the Great White North. By now you might be asking Who's this guy? or you might be saying So what? or some of you might even be wondering whether that's my real name. Well, first off, let me explain that I run the Freelance Writing Organization - Int'l at http://www.fwointl.com If you've never heard of it, then you're probably not an author, journalist, writer or wannabe. We're a not-for-profit site that hosts one of the largest free writing resource links databases on the net. We publish NEWSWATCH Writer's Newsletter and FREEdom Ezine. I'm also in pre-launch of a third publication [2nd web site] called Auto Surf News http://www.autosurfnews.com, which will be providing extensive coverage on the auto traffic generator industry, as well as a searchable database of traffic generators and exchange programs. Both of these sites, FWO-INTL and ASN, are e-gold accepters and I have a question for the group here that I could use some advice on. I'm thinking of making ASN an e-gold payment only site for the future advertising purchasers and was wondering, 1) whether there are any members here who run sites that are e-gold payment exclusive and 2) whether anyone might have some promotional tips for me to help increase revenues through my e-gold account. That's about it for now. I'll wait and see who says hello. Take care, RR PS Brief bio over the years includes being: publisher, sr partner pc consulting corp, accounting consultant, import/export ops mgr, and advertising sales. _ Get your FREE email address http://www.hootingowl.com The Wise Way To Search _ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get [EMAIL PROTECTED] w/No Ads, 6MB, POP more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: GoldNow privacy
At 05:48 PM 11/29/2002 +1100, Graham Kelly wrote: Ben, Thank you for the testimony... yes, we do deal privately with folks, but we ALSO need to verify customers name, address, and phone numbers, as we never want to be accused of money laundering, or dealing with NON entities etc etc. Also, we appreciate our customers, and want to deal with REAL people. So, I make no apology for not dealing with non verifiable people. BTW, this information is not shared with ANYONE, including scurrilous agents acting on behalf of OSRevovery? Inc. Sorry, but accepting the premise that money laundering can exist without the a predicate crime is the equivalent of trail without right to be confronted with evidence or accusers. Anyone who adheres to this policy, including most financial organizations, are just part of a tyranny. When I exchange e-gold for other value all I care about is whether I later possess that value. steve Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people... Be not intimidated, therefore, by any terrors, from publishing with the utmost freedom...nor suffer yourselves to be wheedled out of your liberty by any pretenses of politeness, delicacy, or decency. These, as they are often used, are but three different names for hypocrisy, chicanery, and cowardice. -- John Adams --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: BAD EXPERIENCE: INDEED !
hilarious ... AnyGoldNow rocks ... -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Most outrageous fraud attempt yet!
Today I received the most outrageous fraud message yet. These guys must be
getting really desperate!
John
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It has come to our attention that you may be the recipient of
potentially fraudulent funds. We have initiated an investigation
into this event. In the meantime, we have placed a
pending reversal on the funds in question until the
investigation is complete. This pending reversal will
show as a deduction in your available balance. In
the meantime, you are free to continue transacting using
your E-Gold account.
To check the transaction in question please go to:
and log in into your e-gold account.
Transaction Date: Oct 14, 2002 07:39:34
Transaction Amount: $680.00
Payor's E-Gold:
E-Gold Support Team.
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[e-gold-list] Re: Most outrageous fraud attempt yet!
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:36:49 -0600, Destiny Worldwide Net wrote: Today I received the most outrageous fraud message yet. These guys must be getting really desperate! John I got the same message. The interesting thing is that it was sent to me at four addresses concocted in various ways from the account name, so that the sender did not know the real one and was trying various combinations. T.E. Wilder [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.visi.com/~contra_m/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: BAD EXPERIENCE: STAY AWAY FROM ANYGOLDNOW.COM
I am always surprised to see some MM claiming to verify the ID of a customer, AFTER they get the money ! MC -- Mariman Center Our verification is done prior to receipt of the funds .With bank transfers or Paypal now we do not issue the bank details until such time as we are satisfied with the order and the client.We do not accept money orders. We only accept orders from Australia also which has reduced the incidents of attempted fraud by 90%. No reflection on the rest of the world of course. Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gold-today.com A Member of the eCurrency Trade Association Inc. http://www.exchangeprovider.net http://permaworld.org/members/goldtoday/index.shtml http://www.currencyregistry.com Men make history and not the other way around. In periods where there is no leadership, society stands still. Progress occurs when courageous, skillful leaders seize the opportunity to change things for the better. - Harry Truman --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
