[e-gold-list] spacegold.com

2002-12-09 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear SpaceGold,

Hello.  Glad to see that there are new exchange providers
cropping up.

May I suggest that you reconsider your choice of using
PayPal?  I think the folks at PaybyGold have an interesting
tale of woe to share with you on that score.

Do what you will, but be careful.

Regards,

Jim
 http://cambist.net/


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[e-gold-list] escrow fraud

2002-12-09 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Friends,

Recently, I was provided with information to the effect that

  http://outletescrow.com

is yet another fake auction/escrow scam.

Travel with care.

Regards,

Jim
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[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] software dongle? - free CryptoCard

2002-12-09 Thread Sidd

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Phil Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Pecunix uses a random 4 character selection of a 16 character PIK.
: Providing you don't continuously log into your account (and eventually
give
: up the 16 characters), it is considerably safer on foreign PCs. I don't
know
: if there is an option to re-generate the PIK, but that would be cool.


There certainly is, and your account will remind you to update your PIK
every 6 months... Pecunix is indeed cool!

Charles Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: I have two 16-character strings for my PecunĀ”x account, one for admin
: and one for everyday use.  They are both written on little bits of
: yellow paper and stuck on my monitor, where I can find them easily.  I
: have tried to memorize both strings, but have found the little bits of
: paper to be much more convenient.

Indeed Charles, and it is quite safe to do that. Note that the PIK is
actually an equivalent (for login purposes) of the e-gold/goldmoney account
number which you actually reveal to people who wish to pay you. IOW with
non-Pecunix systems, you only have one secret to login with, whereas with
Pecunix there are 2 secrets, the PIK and the Password, neither of which you
ever need to publish or tell people. If someone caught a glimpse of your PIK
it would not be a serious problem, it's unlikely they would remember it ;-)

Patrick Chkoreff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steal the card, and you've stolen the key.

: Same thing goes for Pecunix though.  Just make sure your account number is
: not printed on the card.

Exactly correct Patrick.


Cheers,

Sidd.

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[e-gold-list] Re: Balance limit on accounts

2002-12-09 Thread Lourens Human
Hi Jim,

Great to have someone that replied to the message!

Just one thing,

 But, it is your gold.  If you spend it, that event is
 essentially irrevocable.  Better you should keep your
 gold.  Unless what they've got is really vital to
 your well being.

It's not my e-gold - I borrow e-gold for an unlimited
period and now want to fulfil my promise by spending it
back to the account holder with the interest I promised.

It's not my e-gold - I borrowed it for an unlimited period
and now want to fulfil my promise by spending it back to
the account holder with the interest I promised.

The dilemma that I have is to spend this e-gold to a
different e-gold account than the one that I have received
it from. I have no idea if this is still the same person
that spends the e-gold to me because everything is
anonymous and I do not know if this person can just update
their info and then receive the e-gold into this account.

Anyway, it seems to be a good idea to inform them about the
status of their e-gold account and then only spend e-gold
to the account from where it came from and that is it!

Thanks,

Lourens
 
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[e-gold-list] Re: spacegold.com

2002-12-09 Thread marco
Hello there

PayPal will let your account grow to what they feel is a nice amount to be
seized, then decide it is time to implement their 'fine print'
My advice is ..'stay away'


marco
www.paybygold.com



 Dear SpaceGold,

 Hello.  Glad to see that there are new exchange providers
 cropping up.

 May I suggest that you reconsider your choice of using
 PayPal?  I think the folks at PaybyGold have an interesting
 tale of woe to share with you on that score.

 Do what you will, but be careful.

 Regards,

 Jim
   http://cambist.net/



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[e-gold-list] Re: Press Release ..New auction site might take e-gold if demand is there.

2002-12-09 Thread marco
Well, at least ebay is not spamming to addresses obviously collected from
websites...
below is what I received to a mailbox that I use at one of our websites
accepting egold!
This specific email is NOT subscribed to any list, safelist, group, opt-in
etc!
Bidcow.com , behave!

marco
www.paybygold.com

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

YOUR ONLINE AUCTION ALTERNATIVE!
BEATS EBAY HANDS DOWN!
This site is sure to be the death of EBay

http://www.bidcow.com

They are set up like ebay except for the
fact that they charge NO LISTING FEES,
NO COMMISSIONS FOR THEIR AUCTIONS.
ONLY A MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP FEE OF,
GET THIS.. $1.35 ENTITLES YOU TO  LIST
AN UNLIMITED NUMBER OF AUCTIONS... WOW...
EBAY AND THE OTHERS CANT TOUCH THAT!!!
NO PER ITEM CHARGES, LISTING FEE OR
END OF AUCTION FEES OR COMMISSIONS
AND THEY ACTUALY CARE ABOUT
THIER CUSTOMERS.

http://www.bidcow.com

click now to visit them, they are the next big
Auction site on the internet.

http://www.bidcow.com

Your online auction alternative!


- Original Message -
From: chris hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:57 PM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Press Release ..New auction site might take e-gold if
demand is there.


 We at bidcow.com just might consider taking e-gold as a form of payment if
 the e-gold membership warrants it...here is a copy of Bidcow.com's inital
 press release, you make the decision , and email [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you
 would like to sign up for their auction services using e-gold payments
 that beat ebay hands down.

 Chris Hogan
 Founder/Ceo
 Bidcow.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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[e-gold-list] Re: Balance limit on accounts

2002-12-09 Thread Ragnar
Lourens,

--- Lourens Human [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Jim,
 
  But, it is your gold.  If you spend it, that event is
  essentially irrevocable.  Better you should keep your
  gold.  Unless what they've got is really vital to
  your well being.
 
 It's not my e-gold - I borrow e-gold for an unlimited
 period and now want to fulfil my promise by spending it
 back to the account holder with the interest I promised.

You mean to say that you run an HYIP, right?

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[e-gold-list] Re: spacegold.com

2002-12-09 Thread Space Gold LLC Support
Hello Jim,

Yes, I understand that PayPal is a dangerous system...
I am going to add AnyPay soon.

If somebody has advices on AnyPay, I would appreciate them very much!
I have an account opened long ago there, but it's a questionable matter on
how to use it, in what way.

Sincerelly,
Paul



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[e-gold-list] Re: spacegold.com

2002-12-09 Thread SnowDog
 Yes, I understand that PayPal is a dangerous system...

I'm curious, though, why you are going to accept PayPal payments? Do you
believe that your security checks will be adequate to prevent any thieves
from sending you bad money, or do you simply disagree when we say that
PayPal is run by Beelzebub incarnate?

Craig



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[e-gold-list] Peppercoin

2002-12-09 Thread James M. Ray
http://www.peppercoin.com/ 

I'm not sure about their payment-system, but I absolutely-approve
of a few of the models, and the brains behind this company seem
impressive as well! (Like others that have passed) IMO unless they
can also attractively process MACRO-payments they'll croak. From
the description of their system (combined with what-little I know of
banks...) it sounds like they are trying to fundamentally change the
banking system -- at least WRT their product. (I wish them luck!)
JMR

PS Florida Moron-tax (lotto) is now up to $80 million! WooHoo!!
Office pool won 5 bucks, which will be plowed into next drawing so
I don't have to do math.

Also, could anyone operating or associated-with any gaming sites
that take e-gold please contact me privately? Thanks.


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[e-gold-list] Re: spacegold.com

2002-12-09 Thread Space Gold LLC Support
 I'm curious, though, why you are going to accept PayPal payments? Do you
 believe that your security checks will be adequate to prevent any thieves
 from sending you bad money, or do you simply disagree when we say that
 PayPal is run by Beelzebub incarnate?

I just believe there won't be any fraudulent orders.

Sincerelly,
Paul



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[e-gold-list] Re: spacegold.com

2002-12-09 Thread marco
That is not enough!
We had no fraudulent orders, yet PayPal closed our account, based on THE
BUSINESS WE ARE IN, i.e. exchanging egold!

regards

marco
www.paybygold.com

- Original Message -
From: Space Gold LLC Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:11 AM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: spacegold.com


  I'm curious, though, why you are going to accept PayPal payments? Do you
  believe that your security checks will be adequate to prevent any
thieves
  from sending you bad money, or do you simply disagree when we say that
  PayPal is run by Beelzebub incarnate?

 I just believe there won't be any fraudulent orders.

 Sincerelly,
 Paul



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[e-gold-list] Re: spacegold.com

2002-12-09 Thread Space Gold LLC Support

 That is not enough!
 We had no fraudulent orders, yet PayPal closed our account, based on THE
 BUSINESS WE ARE IN, i.e. exchanging egold!

Yes, I know that PayPal is run by crooks, but I will try to use them very
carefully. There won't be anything wrong on my side if they close my PayPal
account, it would only be worse for them if they are really fools.

What does BBB think of them?

Sincerelly,
Paul



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[e-gold-list] Looking for a partner

2002-12-09 Thread Space Gold LLC
Hello,

We are looking for a dealer who could sell us e-gold in not so big
amounts, just on the company beginning level. We are planning to buy high
amounts of e-gold in the future.

Regards,
Paul

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[e-gold-list] Fraud list

2002-12-09 Thread Space Gold LLC
Hello,

How can I subscrube to the e-gold fraud list or any other lists for market
makers?

Thank you.

Sincerelly,
Paul

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[e-gold-list] eCTA

2002-12-09 Thread Space Gold LLC
Hello,

What is eCTA and what is it for?
Where is their website?

Sincerelly,
Paul

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[e-gold-list] Client Christmas presents

2002-12-09 Thread George Matyjewicz
Hey gang:

I came across the first revolutionary new product that I have seen in a 
long time.  It's a new mouse called RocketMouse and is really 
different.  It looks like a trigger on a gun.  For those like me who use a 
lap top constantly, this is for you (and me).  It's hard to describe, so we 
posted it as a resource at E-Tailer's Digest site - 
http://www.etailersdigest.com/resources/RocketMouse.htm

Good Christmas present and good price - $29.95 (normally $39.95).   I'm 
ordering them for Christmas presents for clients and friends.  It sure does 
beat the fruit cakes that nobody eats ;-)

They don't take e-Gold, at least not yet.

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[e-gold-list] [e-gold-list]

2002-12-09 Thread David Mueller
If anyone has any contact information for any Hedge Funds, I would
appreciate receiving this information.

You may e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Thanks,

David Mueller
Gold Mountain Exchange, LLC
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We sell gold!



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[e-gold-list] GoldBarter ahead of Bidcow

2002-12-09 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Marco,

It appears from your message to this list that Bidcow.com
is considering accepting e-gold as a payment option.

Of course, GoldBarter.com already does accept e-gold as
a payment option.  http://goldbarter.com/  We also
take GoldMoney, and we are in the process of updating
our system to accept e-Bullion.

At GoldBarter.com, listing is free, bidding is free, and
the only fees are paid by the seller if he (a) sells his
stuff or (b) insists on a reserve price.  There is no
subscriber fee.  We've grown very rapidly since opening
in late 2001, and we're pleased by all our customers
and shoppers.

Now, it is interesting that your e-mail address was
spammed by Bidcow in a ... bid grin to become an
auction site accepting e-gold.  You see, there is a
very clear anti-spam policy at e-gold.com.  So, one
would expect that spammers such as you seem to
indicate you believe Bidcow to be might be in a bit
of trouble.  Spam the users of e-gold and suffer the
wrath of e-gold's anti-spam policy.  It might could
be that Bidcow isn't going to be able to accept
e-gold.

By the way, there are some places where you can
announce your products and services to the e-gold
community without falling afoul of the anti-spam
policy, so you should.  I think this talk.e-gold
list is one such place, though of course you should
be aware of the posting guidelines before posting
here.

There is also a gold-lists.com which is an opt-in
list.  People who want to get info or send info to
the list can opt into it, so nobody gets hurt. As
I understand it, James Shupperd of FastGold
created e-told.com which offers methods of listing
new business activities, and commenting on them.

So, there really is no need for spam.  Spam is bad.

For those who don't recall the early days of the
Internet, when old guys like me still had teeth,
the term spam comes from a song by Monty Python,
the spam song.  You can google it up as fast as
me.  Eggs, spam, beans, spam, rat and spam.

Oh, I'll have that, without so much rat, please!

Regards,

Jim
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[e-gold-list] Re: balance limits

2002-12-09 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Lourens,

It is your commitment to the person who spent the e-gold
to you which you seek to honor.  Therefore, it is up
to you to establish that the person you are spending
the gold back to is the same one from whom you got it.
I cannot advise you better than you've already advised
yourself.  If the e-gold user cannot overcome the balance
limit on his account, you should probably hold the gold
pending further investigation.

In my comments to you, and in my recent update on the
DMT situation, I have used the term spend limit with
respect to e-gold accounts.  From the perspective of
the user who seeks to put gold into an account, the
limitation is one of not being able to spend into it,
and thus the term spend limit seems to be in fairly
widespread use.

As you point out in one of your messages, the actual
term from the user agreement is balance limit. From
the perspective of e-gold.com, the limitation is on
the balance of the account - it isn't allowed to go
higher.  As I understand it, there is no limitation on
accounts going lower - having the gold spent out of
them - without a court order from an external agency.

I suspect that the use of the term spend limit is
going to continue.  However, the use of the term
balance limit might be more accurate, since it
reflects the language in the e-gold user agreement.
So, when you can't spend to an account, it is a
limitation of the balance of that account which is
at stake, even though it seems like a spend limit
to you.

Regards,

Jim
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[e-gold-list] GoldEx: Update E-Gold sale at 3% - Credit Cards Accepted

2002-12-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Everyone.

Please note the following service additions and rate changes at Pacific
Gold Exchange - http://www.goldex.com.au

1. E-Gold for sale @3% or US$5 whichever is the greater - by bank wire,
BPAY, cash deposit (in Aust only) or Western Union Transfer (no checks
or money orders accepted).

2. E-Bullion for sale @3% or US$5 whichever is the greater - by bank
wire, BPAY, cash deposit (in Aust only) or Western Union Transfer (no
checks or money orders accepted).

3. Credit Cards Accepted: Use your Credit Card to buy your ecurrency for
only 10%! All countries accepted. VISA and MasterCard. Full due
diligence disclosure required. See website for details:
http://www.goldex.com.au

4. The GoldEx website order forms include automatic fee and exchange
rate calculations, client order tracking (you can track your own order)
and all personal and order information is protected by a secure SSL
certificate.

Sign up for your new GoldEx User Account today (free):
http://www.goldex.com.au

Paul
GoldEx
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.goldex.com.au

New US Bank account available soon - US domestic bank wires accepted

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[e-gold-list] Re: spacegold.com

2002-12-09 Thread Ragnar
HA!

--- Space Gold LLC Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm curious, though, why you are going to accept PayPal
 payments? Do you
  believe that your security checks will be adequate to
 prevent any thieves
  from sending you bad money, or do you simply disagree when
 we say that
  PayPal is run by Beelzebub incarnate?
 
 I just believe there won't be any fraudulent orders.

LOL!  And I'm a ballerina.

But people learn best when they learn for themselves.  PayPal is
a good start for a learning cureve for an exchange provider.




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[e-gold-list] Re: Press Release ..New auction site might take e-gold if demand is there.

2002-12-09 Thread chris hogan
I want to make one thing CRYSTAL CLEAR...we do not SPAM ANYONE, we hired a
reputable opt in mailing list company, iomegaone.com to do a mailing for
us, obvouisly some people  might have forgotten subscribing to one Of
their opt-in list at sometime in the past ..we do not spam ..it just is
not good business, and it is also not good busniess to publicly defame our
company in this or any forum by accusing us of spamming less you find your
butt in court with a defamamation, slander and liable suit shoved squarely
up your butt ...so in short dont accuse someone of something unless you
are
ready to back it up with litigation, I know we will..

Bidcow.com






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[e-gold-list] Financial Cryptography '03

2002-12-09 Thread James M. Ray
Financial Cryptography 2003
January 27-30, 2003
Le Gosier, Guadeloupe, French West Indies

Web site: http://www.ifca.ai/fc03

Call for Participation

Financial Cryptography is  the only international conference dedicated
to the understanding of cryptography  and its relevance to all aspects
of  the world  of finance.   The conference  brings together  the best
cryptographers and technologists with businesses, bankers, lawyers and
policy makers  to further the understanding  of what can  be done with
cryptography and what needs to be done for the world of finance.

Topics for the conference range from Anonymity to Authentication, from
Digital Cash  to Digital Rights Management, from  Legal and Regulatory
Issues  to Loyalty  Mechanisms and  from Payments  Systems  to Privacy
issues.  The program  is a combination of peer  reviewed papers, panel
discussions and invited talks and the proceedings will be published in
the Springer-Verlag Lecture Notes in Computer Science series.

The list  of accepted  papers is  available at the  web site,  and the
exact  schedule   will  soon  be  too.Registration  for  Financial
Cryptography 2003 is now open;  details and online registration can be
found   at  http://www.ifca.ai/fc03   along  with   information  about
discounted hotel accommodation and travel.

The  early registration  deadline  is December  16th.  After  December
17th, the registration fee will be increased by 150 USD.

Financial  Cryptography is  organized by  the  International Financial
Cryptography Association (IFCA). More information can be obtained from
the IFCA web site  at http://www.ifca.ai/ or contacting the conference
general chairs, Phong Nguyen and David Pointcheval, at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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