[e-gold-list] IRS mythology, USA PATRIOT and money
Dear Gordon, How can there be anything other than case history to back up my statement? I don't know. In a country based upon the rule of law, as Nixon claimed in his farewell address, one would think that no private property would ever be taken without due process of...law. So, where is the law requiring the withholding that everyone does to payroll? I don't find any case history to support your claim, either. the evidence that exists. And it certainly does exist. Where? I would hazard a guess and say more evidence exists to show that the income tax is not a law and that it is voluntary. I've reviewed the laws, and find no law requiring income tax or withholding. I submit that means that it is fraud. There is no such thing as voluntary participation in fraud. A fraud necessarily compels its "participants" with willful non-disclosure of vital facts, making them into victims. It is certainly written in much of the IRS's own documentation this way. I'm satisfied that the IRS perpetrates fraud repeatedly. I don't see why one should rely upon such documents to establish the truth of any matter. He is mistaken. Yet, he is an officer of the court and in a position of considerable authority. One might even say that he is an authoritarian. Rules and laws are two different things. Yes. Legislation and laws are also different. Rules have lesser consequences than laws in most cases. Not really. Tax rules are treated as though their violation were a felony in most cases. Some of these rules carry long prison terms. The 21 count indictment against Dick Simkanin places him in jeopardy of 135 years in prison and nearly $7 million in fines if convicted. I don't think those are lesser consequences. Dick isn't that young, and life extension treatments aren't often available in prison. Yes, you must first understand what you are getting into to have a solid contract and that point can be argued indefinitely in court, Actually, that point can be argued for a time in court. Courts tend to be really narrow minded about listening to arguments from defendants, especially ones that relate to constitutional issues. but this guy has been around So, you know Dick Simkanin? He's been around you? and has been doing this for years. Why shouldn't he be "doing this" - not withholding taxes from his payroll - for years? One either acts consistent with law and morality, or one does not. He understands tax law probably better than most people, I don't think that's much of an accomplishment. Most of the high school seniors in the USA in 2000 could not identify the ocean due east of the USA. As I recall it was a multiple choice question, there were three choices available - Pacific, Atlantic, Indian - and only 20% of the seniors correctly identified Atlantic. One would expect that if they had all been guessing, about a third would have gotten it right. or he would not have the forethought to even attempt to go against the IRS. I think you are trying to establish intent here. It is clear that Dick Simkanin took deliberate actions to behave morally and ethically given the absence of a law compelling him to withhold funds from his payroll. He is not that innocent here, I am sure you will agree on that point. No, I would not agree at all. I think you are abusing the term "innocent." The fact that Dick put some forethought into his position doesn't mean he was guilty of criminal behavior. He took a carefully chosen moral position and acted accordingly. I happen to think his position is correct, and therefore he is innocent of the charges brought against him. Not guilty is the way I'd "vote" if I were on the jury. (But, since I won't vote, I'm not on juries.) If this is the same person/company i think it is he has been doing this for at least 10 years. You are badly mistaken. He is reputed to have begun this activity in 1999. That's from the DoJ press release. He has just become bolder over time. What does that mean, Gordon? It implies that you agree with the fraudulent tax system, and that you oppose any who are willing to stand on principle and refuse to participate. Is that your position? If you want to go down the road he is on without hassle you have to undocument yourself, un-register your Person and dissapear. This takes time and money. Nonsense. None of these things are true. Of course, none of them apply to Dick, either. He is not unwilling to face the hassle. He did what he did very deliberately knowing that he'd have to deal with the trouble the government would bring. It is very easy to stop using identification and state issued numbers. It takes very little time. There is no process of unregistration that works, though there is a great deal of patriot mythology about that, as well. The word appear has two Ps and thus disappear has them, as well, and only the one S. It costs nothing to stop using government issued ID, although it may constrain some of the things a person does. For example, one wo
[e-gold-list] E-gold Software, where is it?
Hello Guys, I am looking for software that works with e-gold. Payment programs, mass payments, desktop, shopping carts - SCI, updates anything in that area. Can you direct me to some URLs or lists of what progams are available out there? I currently have a small start, but we are making a comprehensive list for publishing in the directory so any assistance is appreciated in locating all available software programs which work with e-gold. Post or email me direct. Thank you and have a fine weekend. Mark H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Currency Cryptography Part II
Sidd wrote: ... My oldest working e-gold account number is 108164, but unfortunately I have lost the login details for my earlier accounts. I had one account that I opened possibly a year before that and never funded, and a few more after that. I really wish I could recover them. If I gave you a few e-mail addresses to look up could you possibly find those accounts? ... Yeah, I can try, send the emails privately unless you like spam. I'm in transition to a new computer and a new email program, so I may be a bit slow, and nothing's guaranteed...I made one before 101574 but I have never found it when I looked. JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: CASCARDS PROBLEM ???
> Anyone here ? I sent 2x $1020 today and only got $1020 and they say both > transfers completed. I do not know, I screwed up my montly payment > already, got one transfer to v-cash and no card funded, the other $1020 is > still missing. Are they reliable ? I emailed them nd was told that 2x1020 > is done but its not true. > > James This has been corrected in timely manner, this post came up here AFTER the issue has been resolved. This is to correct my statement above, sorry for mail list mess up Regards James --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: IRS mythology, USA PATRIOT and money
Hi, you miss the whole point entirely. I DO NOT agree with anything the IRS stands for, does or intends to do. I do not think that they act with good intentions and all that entails. You have completly misunderstood everything I said becasue you have not understood my context. I am telling you how the IRS sees things. DO NOT mistake this as some sort of cheerleading for the IRS. You missing this particular point is driving me mad, becasue i cannot carry on a conversation without you understanding what I am even saying and therefore we are not actually communicating. When I say he is in a state of "guilt" you again do not understand what I mean. You are used to looking at the most surface of meanings. Dig into that a little deeper please. Yes, in his mind he is innicent of course. In our minds he is innocent and right. In the DoJ's minds he is guilty and they will attempt to prove it. But the fact remains he is in jail. This is a state of guilt. You will try to argue this and any argument here is futile. Can one be in jail and be innocent? YES! Can one be in jail and be residing in an apparent state of guilt? YES! Understand? You think I am a pervert becasue you do not understand me or the context I am speaking in and you like to put a label on things becasue it makes you feel superior and smart. That's why I labeled you the label hippie. :-) But to support your case, I have been known to enjoy the company of a beautiful lady in high heels and stockings and blood red nail polish. Pervert? maybe... Anyway, i will respond to your post on the dgc list unless J says its ok to continue here... Gordon H. www.katzglobal.com Anonymous Hosting Solutions --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Hutt River currency
... and we plan to deal in it! http://www.wps.com.au/huttriver/index.htm Cheers! Graham Kelly CEO On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:16:51 -0400, "Robert S.Z." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hutt River issues their own currency. > > Cheers, > Robert. > > budget & privacy website hosting > http://www.cyberica.net > budget & privacy domain registrations + mail > http://www.u2planet.com/cfdomaintrust.html - GoldNow http://www.GoldNow.St Primary Customer Service +61 3 9776-4886 US Phone 1-866-999-1717 US Fax 1-213-559-8555 UK Phone +44 (0) 709 233-7612 UK Phone +44 (0) 709 201-4015 CEO Order a US *or* Israeli issued debit card today, at https://www.goldnow.st/debit_card_buy.asp --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] omnipay's new system .... transitional phase
I just saw all of omnipay.com's new collection of stuff (Craig will hate this!) I see there's a transitional phase - when does that end?! And, how long until I get my code in the postal mail?!? Does anyone know? JP! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] sigh
that's no good that you use a silver microspend to confirm, guys! nobody cares about silver, and nobody ever will, no matter what your good intentions!! you should get rid of the other e-metals :O --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: sigh
At 2:34 PM -0600 7/25/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >that's no good that you use a silver microspend to confirm, guys! > >nobody cares about silver, and nobody ever will, no matter what your >good intentions!! > But we GIVE the silver to you, JP! You need never deal with it again, it's just very cheap/efficient this way. >you should get rid of the other e-metals :O They're not as popular, but they're still fun to own. JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Looking for merchant account
Hello, Does anyone know is there any company which can help me to get a merchant account? It can process adult realted sites. I got some clients who need this services. Thanks. Max __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: sigh
But we GIVE the silver to you, JP! You need never deal with it again, it's just very cheap/efficient this way. true, it's a very clever system. (However, it does end you up with the "zero balance shown forever" woe on your e-gold account you know?) you should get rid of the other e-metals :O They're not as popular, but they're still fun to own. all true JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: sigh
At 2:45 PM -0600 7/25/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... >(However, it does end you up with the "zero balance shown forever" >woe on your e-gold account you know?) ... Simple solution: Buy a bunch of e-silver! ;^) Hey, look at the price of silver, it's finally broken five bucks again, so this was at least a good idea if you bought silver last week! JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: sigh
On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 04:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nobody cares about silver, and nobody ever will, no matter what your good intentions!! you should get rid of the other e-metals :O Everyone donate all their annoying silver to me, please. 306260. Thanks, Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] open2exchange e-bullion special!
The auto exchange is currently paying you 1% MORE e-gold for your e-bullion (exchange $100 e-bullion to e-gold and get $101 worth of e-gold) Only for this weekend. http://open2exchange.com/buy.sell...c2c --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: E-gold Software, where is it?
Hi, http://www.freekrai.net/article.php?id=28 - e-gold toolkit www.tacticalgold.com has gaming scripts and game management scripts... http://www.ascripts.com/products/aaes.shtml - click exchange scripts http://www.dreamcost.com - member management and hosting company software http://www.brooky.com/ - e-store (e-gold shopping cart compatible and free) http://ecomstudio.net/sales/ - various for more visit hotscripts.com and type in e-gold to get a larger list Gordon H. www.katzglobal.com Anonymous Hosting Solutions --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Looking for merchant account
> Does anyone know is there any company which can help > me to get a merchant account? www.2checkout.com has shown themselves reliable over the past years. You'll need to discuss adult content, but they do serve adult sites on a case to case basis - some yes, some no. Cheers, Robert. budget & privacy website hosting http://www.cyberica.net budget & privacy domain registrations + mail http://www.u2planet.com/cfdomaintrust.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: sigh
Exactly Patrick! I mean, it *is* free value after all. There seems to be some mysthical connection between never turning down free things (I pick up a penny on the street if I see one)and having larger freebies fall into one's lap. And JP is running 1MDC on the concept that many a penny pincher will sign up to save the e-gold storage fees. So I fail to see how the same person could find it annoying getting silver for free... Cheers, Robert. budget & privacy website hosting http://www.cyberica.net budget & privacy domain registrations + mail http://www.u2planet.com/cfdomaintrust.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: IRS mythology, USA PATRIOT and money
Hello Gordon, > > you miss the whole point entirely. I DO NOT agree with anything the IRS stands for, > does or intends to do. > You misunderstand Jim. Him addressing a post to you and quoting your post in the reply does not imply that he is in fact replying to you :o) I went through the same argument with him sometime last weekend on a different subject. Which reminds me that I still have to reply to some of the points he had made in his reply to my reply to his reply to my post. > > You have completly misunderstood everything I said becasue you have not understood > my context. > Jim does not miunderstand. He is kind enough to even point out spelling errors. So, if you don't think his reply makes sense, then you must (a) misundertand him; or (b) been unclear in your statement. Apart from that I agree with you of, course. I had tried to make a similar point in the same direction as you, prior to your post. But I have to point out that Jim's argument regarding the fact that it was essentially the tax advisor/agent who had 'opted in' on behalf of the client, rather than the client himself does add an interesting twist. Trouble is, cases are won and lost on interesting twists in Supreme Court, not in a magistrate's court and chances are that the DoJ will just sit it out until the poor defendent is out of cash - which already is the case - and until common sense is likely to dictate to try for plea bargaining, even if Jim disagrees. But then, that is my personal opinion and as such as hard to argue over as taste or beauty would be. > > I have been known to enjoy the company of a beautiful lady in high heels and > stockings and blood red nail polish. > ... and not much else ;o) Cheers, Robert. budget & privacy website hosting http://www.cyberica.net budget & privacy domain registrations + mail http://www.u2planet.com/cfdomaintrust.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: sigh
Exactly Patrick! I mean, it *is* free value after all. There seems to be some mysthical connection between never turning down free things (I pick up a penny on the street if I see one)and having larger freebies fall into one's lap. And JP is running 1MDC on the concept that many a penny pincher will sign up to save the e-gold storage fees. So I fail to see how the same person could find it annoying getting silver for free... Robert, you may not know exactly what we're talking about here. What it is, you dont actually GET any free silver: omnipay spends a small amount of silver (call it one cent) to your account, and you have to spend the same amount back. The reason is to verify your account. I think all of that is a magnificent, brilliant, stunning, paradigm-shifting, consciousness-expanding idea. Really (as I said) all I can do is sit back in awe at the staggering, mind-bending BRILLIANCE of this idea and the way it is implemented. My sole and only point was that they should have used *gold* instead of *silver* in this spectacularly clever verification scheme. Makes sense? Cheers, Robert. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] and if anyone feels up to it...
big poker game going on! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: sigh
On Saturday, July 26, 2003, at 12:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What it is, you dont actually GET any free silver: omnipay spends a small amount of silver (call it one cent) to your account, and you have to spend the same amount back. It's been a long time since I did this so I guess I forgot that little detail. JP says nobody will ever care about silver. People spent about $400 worth of silver in the last 24 hrs but they hold 4.47 Mg in the system. That's a heap of silver but not much in motion. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Warning! - New egold scam email going around.
For more information it is posted on the Get Paid Forum. http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=70199 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Warning! - New egold scam email going around.
Dear Friends One new scam claims to be from "Promotions" and calls itself the great e-gold giveaway. It tells you to log into your account, and offers a link for that purpose. Then it says that winners will be notified within 48 hours of logging in. So, if you don't want to be one of those "winners" and find out that your e-gold passphrase was stolen and your account emptied, DON'T LOG INTO YOUR E-GOLD ACCOUNT BY CLICKING ON ANY LINK IN ANY E-MAIL. EVER! There is no such thing as [EMAIL PROTECTED] And the message sent out has a few spelling errors which I won't point out this time. The best way to get to the *real* log-in screen at e-gold is to go to your browser location window and type use.e-gold.com which will take you automagically to the secure screen. Don't trust look-alikes. Don't trust e-mails. It is your gold, and you have to be looking out for it. Regards, Jim http://www.ezez.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: sigh
Hello JP, Sorry about that one. It really didn't appear to me that that was what you were talking about. I mean, I do recall Omnipay having done this for quite a while and that was how we first got verified (before they mailed us a passcode of sorts to our street address for final verification). In fact, one of the customers we host www.universal-escrow.com uses microspends as the only means of communication with customers and I have an e-gold account for the exclusive use of Memo line spammers. That is why I couldn't see what the excitement would be about and thought that someone had started a mail exchange service in which messages are forwarded and received through e-gold accounts but using silver (something I tried discussing here a few weeks ago to see if there was interest in such a service). So, I'm sorry for having misjudged you and retract my claim that you do not appreciate the value of free money :o) Cheers, Robert. budget & privacy website hosting http://www.cyberica.net budget & privacy domain registrations + mail http://www.u2planet.com/cfdomaintrust.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: and if anyone feels up to it...
Wanna play for TGC shares as a side bet? :o) Just kidding. Cheers, Robert. budget & privacy website hosting http://www.cyberica.net budget & privacy domain registrations + mail http://www.u2planet.com/cfdomaintrust.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
