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major bosco wrote: So -- I guess it's OK for these GBC's to be under the thumb of the Royal Family and the BOE, but get one ounce within 100 miles of a US border and people start screaming bloddy murder! Forget the bank of england. Two places to fear: - the EU, because they are a bunch of tax-happy reds, who are pushing to wipe out tax havens and harmonize everyone's taxes. - the USA, because it wants to tax worldwide income, and so must snoop worldwide. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Two places to fear: - the EU, because they are a bunch of tax-happy reds, who are pushing to wipe out tax havens and harmonize everyone's taxes. - the USA, because it wants to tax worldwide income, and so must snoop worldwide. I don't think the USA is much different from any other major country in that regard. The reason I left Australia was for tax reasons. I loved it there, but I only stayed 21 days of one tax year and 176 days of the next tax year. If I had stayed more than six months in a single tax year, 1 July to 30 June, would have been taxed at their outrageous rates on all of my income worldwide. Even though my main salary was paid by my US company to me in my US bank accounts. They would even have taxed my personal businesses that were not even active in Australia. Not that I don't still like the country. It is on the top of my list of places to expat to if I do get fed up with the US or decide to retire. In fact I have a standing invitation to come work for the group I was assigned to while I was then. Cheers, Paul Ewing Shining Moon Creations - Exotic and Fantasy Jewelry http://www.shiningmoon.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ken Griffith wrote: Anyone interested in reading the full story on how the government attacked Franklin Sanders' gold bank can do so at the following URL: http://www.goldbankone.com/article.php?sid=124mode=threadedorder=2 Ever wonder WHY? gold and silver is kept out of the public's hands? First off the controllers want it ALL for themselves for economic and political control. Secondly gold and silver have some little known but powerful physiological effects. Gold, as a micronutrient in the humand body diminishes addictions of all kinds. Many anti-addiction drugs contain gold in some form. Silver, as a micronutrient, diminishes effects of microbes and viruses in the human body. More information on these elements (plus platinum) is contained in my book The Divine Triplet: http://www.dxshop.com/_shop/shop-indy.mhtml?shop=spectrumcode=B1597 We do accept e-gold; #101329 -- Life, Love and Laughter, Dale Pond Sympathetic Vibratory Physics Sacred Science - Sacred Life http://www.svpvril.com SVP Discussion Forum: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svpvril/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ken Griffith wrote: Goldschlager is the cure for alcoholism? Doubtful, that's like putting deadly fluorine or chlorine in water to make it safe to drink - or mercury in your teeth. Gold would do a lot better. Heh! a new market for e-gold - dentists and bottled water. -- Life, Love and Laughter, Dale Pond Sympathetic Vibratory Physics Sacred Science - Sacred Life http://www.svpvril.com SVP Discussion Forum: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svpvril/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have been informed by sources inside GoldMoney that none of the officers, including James Turk, live or in any way operate any aspect of the business from the United States. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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USA or not USA -- this whole argument is moot.. I have been watching this banter awhile now, and everyone seems to overlook the fact that if you want to deal in precious metals in any big way -- you can't get around the USA.. That's way PM's settle in USD -- the World over. ALL PM's by default are pegged to the USA, whether anyone likes it or not. There are certainly smaller exchanges where you may be able to avert Uncle Sams attention -- however, if you want to deal in PM's in more than a cursory (small numbers) manner you have to go through the US market in some manner or form. Even the London fix is issued in USD -- ALL the major World metals Distributors and Dealers have HQ's / Distribution facilities / storage / etc.. in the US (even Scotia Bank). ANY settlement of PM's that's worth real numbers goes out in USD -- so, unless these GBC's are planning to stay small and never gather critical mass, and until some radical shift in the entire World market is made --the idea of being *offshore* and *untouchable* is simply an exercise in futility. If you had real money in PM's where would you rather store your metal --In the US or Moscow and Bejing?? JB From: Ken Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: the full story Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:32:17 -0400 I have been informed by sources inside GoldMoney that none of the officers, including James Turk, live or in any way operate any aspect of the business from the United States. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Follow up on the flip side. So far it seems that everyone is all agitated by GBC's under possible influence of the USA! It seems to me that the majority of GBC's are under jurisdiction of British domain and British law. How come nobody is complaining about this ? If I had to choose,, I certainly wouldn't choose ANY British jurisdiction -- as Britain and the Bank of England seem to have this horrible habit of auctioning off metals left and right, including metals that belong to other Countries. So -- I guess it's OK for these GBC's to be under the thumb of the Royal Family and the BOE, but get one ounce within 100 miles of a US border and people start screaming bloddy murder! From what I have seen and watched for the last 20 years in the POG, POS and POP -- the worst possible thing you could do with precious metals is to let a single gram get anywhere near the black hole of British bullion Banks.. JB _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well I don't how that has anything to do with today -- 60 years later!! But, I would assume that this figure could be attributed to the fact the 100% of the World was at War, and the USA was the Worlds arsenal, which meant that payments(GOLD)for War supplies were sent to the US. If the US wanted to corner the market - they could have stayed home and just kept the Gold for supplies, instead of giving half that 75% figure back for re-building Nations. JB From: Ken Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: the full story Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 23:00:12 -0400 As a point of interest, I recently read that in the 1940's a decade after Roosevelt's gold seizure that the US Government (treasury + federal reserve) owned 75% of all the gold in the world. If that figure is correct, now THAT is a corner on the market! _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 22 Jul 2001, at 20:36, Ken Griffith wrote: Thanks Ken for this testimony from Franklin Sanders. I now better understand the issues of operating in the USA. GoldMoney is definitiveley the best issuer right now to face such situation. I can only hope that GSR and e-gold will eventually do same. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 22 Jul 2001, at 20:36, Ken Griffith wrote: Thanks Ken for this testimony from Franklin Sanders. I now better understand the issues of operating in the USA. GoldMoney is definitiveley the best issuer right now to face such situation. Claude, can you explain why that is? Thanks! I can only hope that GSR and e-gold will eventually do same. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 23 Jul 2001, at 11:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GoldMoney is definitiveley the best issuer right now to face such situation. Claude, can you explain why that is? Thanks! They are 100% non-US, have a great product, great corporate governance and corporate structure and excellent international partners. The only thing they are missing is the market which is now owned by e-gold -:) Maybe this will change, maybe not. time will tell. Claude http://www.goldcurrencies.ca http://www.ormetal.com == Claude Cormier Public Key http://www.ormetal.com/PGPkey.html == --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[GoldMoney] are 100% non-US, have a great product, great corporate governance and corporate structure and excellent international partners. The only thing they are missing is the market which is now owned by e-gold -:) Maybe this will change, maybe not. time will tell. I agree with you, Claude, that they have the best governance. But since both James Turk, and Geoff Turk are living in the US, the very heart and soul of the company is at risk from the US. If Geoff and James were to be arrested on bogus charges similar to the ones used against Parker Bradley, the company would be effectively frozen, even if the assetts were safe. Frankly, I believe that James would die for the company as it was put by someone. We can only suppose that he knows about these risks and has the hopes that he would be able to see trouble coming and leave the US before a warrant was issued. But Parker was apparently completely taken by surprise. The US residency of Geoff and James is definitely a risk to GoldMoney, if not to the assets of the company, definitely to the leadership of the company. It would be better for the leadership of any of the GBC's to be physically located outside the US. Ken --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 22 Jul 2001, at 22:06, Ken Griffith wrote: I agree with you, Claude, that they have the best governance. But since both James Turk, and Geoff Turk are living in the US, the very heart and soul of the company is at risk from the US. James Turk lives in London. I am told. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
