[ECOLOG-L] Saviours or Destroyers: The relationship between the human species and the rest of life on Earth

2012-03-26 Thread Neil Cummins
I am excited to let you know about the publication of:


Saviours or Destroyers: The relationship between the human species and the
rest of life on Earth


http://www.amazon.com/dp/1907962522/ref=nosim?tag=cranmorpublic-20


http://www.cranmorepublications.co.uk/73



Here is the amazon info:

From the Author
At the start of Chapter Two I quote an all too familiar view:

The lesson we need to learn urgently is this: we cannot do without the
rest of the planet's biodiversity, but it can do very well without us.

My objective in this book is to make it clear why this contemporarily
fashionable view is completely and utterly wrong. This view has been
forwarded and propagated by a wide range of intellectuals, academics and
environmentalists. I hope that through this book, and the rest of my
writings, that these people will come to see where they have gone wrong.
Some components of the view that I forward in the book are open to debate.
However, that the human species is the saviour of life, rather than the
destroyer which the rest of life on Earth can do very well without, is so
obvious that it shouldn't be one of these debatable components.


Book Description
Publication Date: March 15, 2012


There are many ways in which humans can conceptualise the relationship
between their species and their surroundings; these 'surroundings' can be
taken to be the rest of the life-forms which exist on the Earth, or
everything non-human that exists in the universe. In this book I focus on
various possible relationships between the human species and the rest of
the life-forms that exist (and those that have existed, and those that will
exist in the future) on the Earth. Is there no deeply significant and
meaningful relationship? Or, is the human species superior in some way? Or,
is the human species inferior in some way?

If you are familiar with my previous work you will be aware that I am
particularly interested in how the relationship we are exploring relates to
the 'environmental crisis'. I have suggested that the human species is
superior in some way, and that the environmental crisis/human-induced
global warming are positive events which indicate that the human species is
fulfilling its role as saviour of life on Earth.

I take this book to be a valuable addition to my previous writings. In it I
consider at length the opposing view that the human species is an 'inferior
destroyer' of the rest of life on Earth. I also outline the whole range of
ways in which it is obvious that technology is in the interests of life on
Earth. I also develop the view that the universe is a 'feeling universe'
whose movements/evolution is directed by all parts of the universe seeking
to move to higher states of feeling; and I explore how this plays out in
the day-to-day lives of individual humans as they seek to live more happy
and fulfilling lives. Furthermore, I describe how we live in an epoch which
can best be described as a 'birthing process'; life on Earth is bringing
forth the technological armour which will ensure its future survival. This
is a birthing process, which like almost all births, entails a lot of pain
and suffering. I suggest that this process will come to an end when the
temperature of the atmosphere is being successfully technologically
regulated. Finally, I outline the serious environmental problems that we
face on the surface of the Earth and urge that we take both technological
and non-technological actions to address these problems. If we can
successfully do this then we can forge a sustainable and harmonious future
for all life on Earth.



There are both paperback and ebook/kindle versions available.

Dr NPC

http://neilpaulcummins.blogspot.co.uk/


Re: [ECOLOG-L] Saviours or Destroyers: The relationship between the human species and the rest of life on Earth

2012-03-26 Thread David M. Lawrence
How can you claim that the idea that we cannot do without the rest of 
the planet's biodiversity, but it can do very well without us, is 
completely and utterly wrong, given that life did just fine for 4 
billion years without us?  I suggest that is a powerful and irrefutable 
empirical rejection of your claim.


Later,

Dave

On 3/26/2012 9:32 AM, Neil Cummins wrote:

I am excited to let you know about the publication of:


Saviours or Destroyers: The relationship between the human species and the
rest of life on Earth


http://www.amazon.com/dp/1907962522/ref=nosim?tag=cranmorpublic-20


http://www.cranmorepublications.co.uk/73



Here is the amazon info:

 From the Author
At the start of Chapter Two I quote an all too familiar view:

The lesson we need to learn urgently is this: we cannot do without the
rest of the planet's biodiversity, but it can do very well without us.

My objective in this book is to make it clear why this contemporarily
fashionable view is completely and utterly wrong. This view has been
forwarded and propagated by a wide range of intellectuals, academics and
environmentalists. I hope that through this book, and the rest of my
writings, that these people will come to see where they have gone wrong.
Some components of the view that I forward in the book are open to debate.
However, that the human species is the saviour of life, rather than the
destroyer which the rest of life on Earth can do very well without, is so
obvious that it shouldn't be one of these debatable components.


Book Description
Publication Date: March 15, 2012


There are many ways in which humans can conceptualise the relationship
between their species and their surroundings; these 'surroundings' can be
taken to be the rest of the life-forms which exist on the Earth, or
everything non-human that exists in the universe. In this book I focus on
various possible relationships between the human species and the rest of
the life-forms that exist (and those that have existed, and those that will
exist in the future) on the Earth. Is there no deeply significant and
meaningful relationship? Or, is the human species superior in some way? Or,
is the human species inferior in some way?

If you are familiar with my previous work you will be aware that I am
particularly interested in how the relationship we are exploring relates to
the 'environmental crisis'. I have suggested that the human species is
superior in some way, and that the environmental crisis/human-induced
global warming are positive events which indicate that the human species is
fulfilling its role as saviour of life on Earth.

I take this book to be a valuable addition to my previous writings. In it I
consider at length the opposing view that the human species is an 'inferior
destroyer' of the rest of life on Earth. I also outline the whole range of
ways in which it is obvious that technology is in the interests of life on
Earth. I also develop the view that the universe is a 'feeling universe'
whose movements/evolution is directed by all parts of the universe seeking
to move to higher states of feeling; and I explore how this plays out in
the day-to-day lives of individual humans as they seek to live more happy
and fulfilling lives. Furthermore, I describe how we live in an epoch which
can best be described as a 'birthing process'; life on Earth is bringing
forth the technological armour which will ensure its future survival. This
is a birthing process, which like almost all births, entails a lot of pain
and suffering. I suggest that this process will come to an end when the
temperature of the atmosphere is being successfully technologically
regulated. Finally, I outline the serious environmental problems that we
face on the surface of the Earth and urge that we take both technological
and non-technological actions to address these problems. If we can
successfully do this then we can forge a sustainable and harmonious future
for all life on Earth.



There are both paperback and ebook/kindle versions available.

Dr NPC

http://neilpaulcummins.blogspot.co.uk/


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Re: [ECOLOG-L] Saviours or Destroyers: The relationship between the human species and the rest of life on Earth

2012-03-26 Thread Neil Cummins
Thanks for this.

We seem to agree on quite a lot.

However, I seek to persuade people in my books that the extinction of the
human species would ultimately lead to the extinction of all life on Earth,
rather than a new era of evolution (although my view is compatible with a
very short new era followed by total extinction).

I should point out that my claim that the human species is the pinacle of
the evolutionary progression of life on Earth has to do with its position
in the evolutionary process rather than to do with unique
characteristics. All species have unique characteristics and there might
be species of non-human Earthly life which are more intelligent than humans.

Best

Neil

http://neilpaulcummins.blogspot.co.uk/


http://www.cranmorepublications.co.uk/73

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Brian West adventurew...@gmail.com wrote:

 I will respond to both posts, but given that I have not read Mr. Cummings'
 book.  We, as a species,
 are intricately involved in a series of selective evolutionary events that
 have culminated to result in
 the biodiversity that we see today.  We, as well as all extant life on
 planet, stand on the shoulders
 of millions of species that have come and gone that paved the way for our
 current biosphere.  The
 planet did do just fine without the presence of Homo sapiens sapiens for
 the last 3.8 billion years,
 but now that we are here, we do play an important part in it--for better
 or worse.  Would life go on
 without us?  Of course.  But if we went, in theory, so would many species
 that have coevolved with
 us.  Dave, we are intricately involved in our biosphere and it is
 intricately involved with us.  We are
 a cog in the machinery of our current biosphere. We are important in the
 current picture of our
 biodiversity and biosphere.  We are but a still-shot in the whole reel of
 the film we call life, but our
 still-shot is still important. We are a keystone species.  The loss of
 Homo sapiens as a species
 could cause a cascading extinction event.  But, Dr. Cummings, we must not
 make the mistake of
 near-sightedness in this situation.

 Life on the planet would be affected by our disappearance, but it would
 not end by no means, but
 pave way for a new era in evolution (i.e. The Age of Reptiles paved the
 way for The Age of
 Mammals).  I reject the notion that we are superior to all other species.
  We do have unique
 characteristics that allows for us to stand apart, but so do many other
 species.  For one example in
 a sea of others, the polyextremophile Deinococcus radiodurans is a
 biological superman that has
 many characteristics that make it superior to Homo sapiens.  I mention
 this not to perpetuate the
 idea of superior or inferior, but to caution in using the words and ideas
 behind superior or inferior.
 We are the ones who rank and order and categorize and value, which is to
 some extent why we
 treat the planet the way we do.  Dr. Cummings, we must move away from the
 anthrocentric
 worldview that our forefathers perpetuated, which led to the abuse and
 destruction of so many
 aspects of our biosphere.



Re: [ECOLOG-L] Saviours or Destroyers: The relationship between the human species and the rest of life on Earth

2012-03-26 Thread David M. Lawrence
I'm sorry, but you'll have to offer more evidence than you have before 
I'll plunk down $20 for a book that might just be full of nonsense.  
Speaking both as a scholar and as a consumer, nothing I've seen here on 
or on the Amazon site entices me to spend either the money or time on 
your thesis.


To me, 4 billion years of evolution before the hominid line arose speaks 
rather clearly as to the lack of necessity of our presence, much less 
our involvement, in the biosphere.  And given that relatively few 
species have coevolved with us, and that our impact on the biosphere 
as a whole was quite limited until a few thousand years ago, I see 
little justification for the argument that our continued presence is 
necessary for the biosphere's health and/or survival.


Dave

On 3/26/2012 4:52 PM, Neil Cummins wrote:

Just because life exists does not mean that it is doing just fine.
Life existed in the past. Life exists in the present. Life will exist 
in the near future.
The idea that the planet's bidoversity can do very well without us 
is a claim that humans have made in the very recent past concerning 
the NOT near future. It is this claim which I reject.
This rejection is in no way refuted by your message below concerning 
the past.
I hope this helps you to understand. If not the book might, much of it 
is viewable for free on amazon.

Best
Neil
http://neilpaulcummins.blogspot.co.uk/
http://www.cranmorepublications.co.uk/73


On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 5:46 PM, David M. Lawrence d...@fuzzo.com 
mailto:d...@fuzzo.com wrote:


How can you claim that the idea that we cannot do without the
rest of the planet's biodiversity, but it can do very well without
us, is completely and utterly wrong, given that life did just
fine for 4 billion years without us?  I suggest that is a powerful
and irrefutable empirical rejection of your claim.

Later,

Dave


On 3/26/2012 9:32 AM, Neil Cummins wrote:

I am excited to let you know about the publication of:


Saviours or Destroyers: The relationship between the human
species and the
rest of life on Earth


http://www.amazon.com/dp/1907962522/ref=nosim?tag=cranmorpublic-20


http://www.cranmorepublications.co.uk/73



Here is the amazon info:

 From the Author
At the start of Chapter Two I quote an all too familiar view:

The lesson we need to learn urgently is this: we cannot do
without the
rest of the planet's biodiversity, but it can do very well
without us.

My objective in this book is to make it clear why this
contemporarily
fashionable view is completely and utterly wrong. This view
has been
forwarded and propagated by a wide range of intellectuals,
academics and
environmentalists. I hope that through this book, and the rest
of my
writings, that these people will come to see where they have
gone wrong.
Some components of the view that I forward in the book are
open to debate.
However, that the human species is the saviour of life, rather
than the
destroyer which the rest of life on Earth can do very well
without, is so
obvious that it shouldn't be one of these debatable components.


Book Description
Publication Date: March 15, 2012


There are many ways in which humans can conceptualise the
relationship
between their species and their surroundings; these
'surroundings' can be
taken to be the rest of the life-forms which exist on the
Earth, or
everything non-human that exists in the universe. In this book
I focus on
various possible relationships between the human species and
the rest of
the life-forms that exist (and those that have existed, and
those that will
exist in the future) on the Earth. Is there no deeply
significant and
meaningful relationship? Or, is the human species superior in
some way? Or,
is the human species inferior in some way?

If you are familiar with my previous work you will be aware
that I am
particularly interested in how the relationship we are
exploring relates to
the 'environmental crisis'. I have suggested that the human
species is
superior in some way, and that the environmental
crisis/human-induced
global warming are positive events which indicate that the
human species is
fulfilling its role as saviour of life on Earth.

I take this book to be a valuable addition to my previous
writings. In it I
consider at length the opposing view that the human species is
an 'inferior
destroyer' of the rest of life on Earth. I also outline the
whole range of
ways in which it is obvious that