Re: [Efw-user] Problem with throughput on RED (or Green?)
Being Australian i would like to clarify the possible misconception of this thread a few e-mails ago (e-mail included) The internet here is not 20MB it's 20Mb. We have had ADSL2+ just implemented mostly by our pathetic excuse for a telco service, they have locked their system at 20mbit down. Due to overheads on packets this really does roughly translate to 2MByte/sec. not 20MByte. Other providers such as iiNet and Internode have their own DSLAMS providing the full 24mbit. Potentially if you live next door to the exchange you can get 24mbit down. Annex M+ allows more up bandwidth, 2 mbps i believe as opposed to the usual 1mbps that ADSL2+ provides. On another note Good to see you got the throughput issue fixed up. Regards, Tarrant -- Tarrant Marshall | Software Engineer email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | web: http://www.agileware.net Linux | Software Development Support | Web Hosting | Novell Gold Partner | IBM Business Partner | Agileview - DukeOfAwesome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: marshall wrote: Just a side note for Duke. You are getting 20MB down? That is amazing. Is this standard in australia for most high speed? No it's not the standard, but will be eventually I believe. I'm just lucky that my Telephone Exchange got upgraded very early in the roll out. I'm not sure where you're located but have you heard of ADSL 2+ Annex M? If you're familiar with ADSL then it's just the next iteration. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Problem-with-throughput-on-RED-%28or-Green-%29-tf3754412.html#a10786635 Sent from the efw-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user
Re: [Efw-user] Problem with throughput on RED (or Green?)
I turned off everything (including the proxy for both GREEN and BLUE) just to test. I did not change anything. Peter Warasin-2 wrote: Hi DukeOfAwesome wrote: I have the same problem, but slightly different and I have conducted a simple test to prove the Endian has a throttling effect on internet traffic once the HTTP Proxy is turn on and green interfaces are directed through Endian. Does the traffic go through the proxy? Then it is quite normal that there is a throttling effect. Requests need to pass the stack up to the application layer in order to get processed by the proxy, which is also ressource and time consuming. Squid is not that fast. Also if you have enabled contentfilter and/or antivirus, it will slow down the connection. However, next release contains an upgrade to 2.6, which is way faster. Anyone know of restrictions placed on the Community version? I dont know of any restrictions. But anybody is invited to make sure for itself :-) peter -- :: e n d i a n :: open source - open minds :: peter warasin :: http://www.endian.com :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin:vcard fn:Peter Warasin n:;Peter Warasin org:Endian GmbH/Srl adr:;;Pillhof 47;Frangart/Frangarto;BZ;I-39010;Italien/Italia email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:+39 0471 631763 tel;fax:+39 0471 631764 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.endian.com version:2.1 end:vcard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Problem-with-throughput-on-RED-%28or-Green-%29-tf3754412.html#a10840877 Sent from the efw-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user
Re: [Efw-user] Problem with throughput on RED (or Green?)
Myself is using a application called TPTEST, www.tptest.se (site in swedish). The application is made by our government (and others) for consumers to test if their bandwitdh lives up to what the ISP promise. At least it a easy way to test if the bandwidth is stable. marshall wrote: what program are you using to figure out your network speeds and how much bandwidth you have to work with? On 5/23/07, DukeOfAwesome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johan, I have the same problem, but slightly different and I have conducted a simple test to prove the Endian has a throttling effect on internet traffic once the HTTP Proxy is turn on and green interfaces are directed through Endian. To prove my theory I bypassed Endian entirely and directed requests directly through the modem which enabled me to connect at full speed 20Mbit Down and 2Mbit Up. Once requested were proxied through Endian the speed was throttled to somewhere between 8-9Mbit Down and no change of 2Mbit Up. My setup on Endian 2.1 is as follows: - HTTP Proxy On and NOT Transparent - LDAP Authorisation for Internet Access - Have also tried Local Authorisation with no change to throttling effect. - Outgoing Firewall enabled - Have also tried with outgoing firewall disabled with no change to throttling effect. It's very strange and I have tried various NICs on the Red Interface from Intel, Realtek to Accton. Anyone know of restrictions placed on the Community version? Duke -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Problem-with-throughput-on-RED-%28or-Green-%29-tf3754412.html#a10777088 Sent from the efw-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Problem-with-throughput-on-RED-%28or-Green-%29-tf3754412.html#a10840919 Sent from the efw-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user
Re: [Efw-user] Problem with throughput on RED (or Green?)
Hi Peter, What are the chances of an upgrade to the Red Hat 5 kernel in the next release? Cheers, Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Warasin Sent: 24 May 2007 10:52 To: efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Efw-user] Problem with throughput on RED (or Green?) Hi DukeOfAwesome wrote: I have the same problem, but slightly different and I have conducted a simple test to prove the Endian has a throttling effect on internet traffic once the HTTP Proxy is turn on and green interfaces are directed through Endian. Does the traffic go through the proxy? Then it is quite normal that there is a throttling effect. Requests need to pass the stack up to the application layer in order to get processed by the proxy, which is also ressource and time consuming. Squid is not that fast. Also if you have enabled contentfilter and/or antivirus, it will slow down the connection. However, next release contains an upgrade to 2.6, which is way faster. Anyone know of restrictions placed on the Community version? I dont know of any restrictions. But anybody is invited to make sure for itself :-) peter -- :: e n d i a n :: open source - open minds :: peter warasin :: http://www.endian.com :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user
Re: [Efw-user] Problem with throughput on RED (or Green?)
marshall wrote: what program are you using to figure out your network speeds and how much bandwidth you have to work with? To ensure that I am comparing apples with apples I am downloading a 100Meg file from our ISP located here: http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/test/ http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/test/ We are running ADSL 2+ Annex M and the modem receives the values from the ISP and reports: Upstream 2281 kbps Downstream 21367 kbps Noise Margin (Upstream) 6.8 db Noise Margin (Downstream) 8.1 db Attenuation (Upstream) 12.5 db Attenuation (Downstream) 16.0 db Duke -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Problem-with-throughput-on-RED-%28or-Green-%29-tf3754412.html#a10777924 Sent from the efw-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user
Re: [Efw-user] Problem with throughput on RED (or Green?)
Hi DukeOfAwesome wrote: I have the same problem, but slightly different and I have conducted a simple test to prove the Endian has a throttling effect on internet traffic once the HTTP Proxy is turn on and green interfaces are directed through Endian. Does the traffic go through the proxy? Then it is quite normal that there is a throttling effect. Requests need to pass the stack up to the application layer in order to get processed by the proxy, which is also ressource and time consuming. Squid is not that fast. Also if you have enabled contentfilter and/or antivirus, it will slow down the connection. However, next release contains an upgrade to 2.6, which is way faster. Anyone know of restrictions placed on the Community version? I dont know of any restrictions. But anybody is invited to make sure for itself :-) peter -- :: e n d i a n :: open source - open minds :: peter warasin :: http://www.endian.com :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin:vcard fn:Peter Warasin n:;Peter Warasin org:Endian GmbH/Srl adr:;;Pillhof 47;Frangart/Frangarto;BZ;I-39010;Italien/Italia email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:+39 0471 631763 tel;fax:+39 0471 631764 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.endian.com version:2.1 end:vcard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user
Re: [Efw-user] Problem with throughput on RED (or Green?)
Peter Warasin-2 wrote: Does the traffic go through the proxy? Yes it does. Peter Warasin-2 wrote: Then it is quite normal that there is a throttling effect. Requests need to pass the stack up to the application layer in order to get processed by the proxy, which is also ressource and time consuming. Squid is not that fast. Also if you have enabled contentfilter and/or antivirus, it will slow down the connection. However, next release contains an upgrade to 2.6, which is way faster. I wasn't aware of that and hopefully the 2.6 version will rectify the problem. Do you know when this is scheduled for release? I have disabled the anti-virus and don't use the content filtering whatsoever. Peter Warasin-2 wrote: Anyone know of restrictions placed on the Community version? I dont know of any restrictions. But anybody is invited to make sure for itself :-) peter Peter, I was not suggesting that you guys were deliberately throttling the community version and I do apologise if it came across like that. :respect: -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Problem-with-throughput-on-RED-%28or-Green-%29-tf3754412.html#a10781364 Sent from the efw-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user
Re: [Efw-user] Problem with throughput on RED (or Green?)
Peter Warasin spake the following on 5/24/2007 2:52 AM: Hi DukeOfAwesome wrote: I have the same problem, but slightly different and I have conducted a simple test to prove the Endian has a throttling effect on internet traffic once the HTTP Proxy is turn on and green interfaces are directed through Endian. Does the traffic go through the proxy? Then it is quite normal that there is a throttling effect. Requests need to pass the stack up to the application layer in order to get processed by the proxy, which is also ressource and time consuming. Squid is not that fast. Also if you have enabled contentfilter and/or antivirus, it will slow down the connection. However, next release contains an upgrade to 2.6, which is way faster. Will faster hardware/more memory help with this? Or is it just a problem you have to live with for now? Otherwise, you won't be able to keep up with anything much over a T1. -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user
Re: [Efw-user] Problem with throughput on RED (or Green?)
what program are you using to figure out your network speeds and how much bandwidth you have to work with? On 5/23/07, DukeOfAwesome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johan, I have the same problem, but slightly different and I have conducted a simple test to prove the Endian has a throttling effect on internet traffic once the HTTP Proxy is turn on and green interfaces are directed through Endian. To prove my theory I bypassed Endian entirely and directed requests directly through the modem which enabled me to connect at full speed 20Mbit Down and 2Mbit Up. Once requested were proxied through Endian the speed was throttled to somewhere between 8-9Mbit Down and no change of 2Mbit Up. My setup on Endian 2.1 is as follows: - HTTP Proxy On and NOT Transparent - LDAP Authorisation for Internet Access - Have also tried Local Authorisation with no change to throttling effect. - Outgoing Firewall enabled - Have also tried with outgoing firewall disabled with no change to throttling effect. It's very strange and I have tried various NICs on the Red Interface from Intel, Realtek to Accton. Anyone know of restrictions placed on the Community version? Duke -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Problem-with-throughput-on-RED-%28or-Green-%29-tf3754412.html#a10777088 Sent from the efw-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user
Re: [Efw-user] Problem with throughput on RED (or Green?)
Is there a way to determine what the bottleneck is on the EFW box? Maybe run a bandwidth test from the EFW console directly on the NIC, circumventing EFW. Does anybody know about a method (application or command) to accomplish this? Hopefully, Johan To: efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 11:23:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Efw-user] Problem with throughput on RED (or Green?) Jesse Shumaker spake the following on 5/21/2007 11:10 AM: I'm thinking either the nics or the driver. does monowall use the same drive as efw? No since Endian is Linux based, and monowall is FREEBSD based. -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user
Re: [Efw-user] Problem with throughput on RED (or Green?)
I'm thinking either the nics or the driver. does monowall use the same drive as efw? On 5/21/07, Johan Ljunggren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I tested the CD-ROM version of m0n0wall. With m0n0wall I get ~16Mbit/s as I should. Disabled all that I can in EFW, but still only get a maximum of ~10.2Mbit/s. So it's not the hardware, or EFW is using more resources than m0n0wall. Any suggestions or solutions? Hopefully, JL -- Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 18:48:06 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Efw-user] Problem with throughput on RED (or Green?) yep, I would replace the nics to start. I have a friend who noticed a drastic increase in his EFW upon changing the nics and upping the RAM to 1GB. Try and use a server nic or one that has managed capability. On 5/14/07, *Johan Ljunggren* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I got Endian Firewall Community 2.1 running on an Intel P4 1,7GHz with 512MB memory. When I run a bandwidth test on my ADSL line, from a client behind EFW, I get ~9Mbit/s. If I connect a client directly to the internet-switch, the same switch that the RED NIC of the EFW box is connected to, I get ~16Mbit/s, which is normal. Is this normal behavior? Doesn't Endian handle this kind of traffic? Since the CPU-graph hardly moves I'm thinking it can. I think that this is more a hardware problem, or a miss configuration? Do anybody got any suggestions? Should I start by replacing the NIC's? Thanks, Johan -- Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more!http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user -- Explore the seven wonders of the world Learn more!http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Efw-user mailing list Efw-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/efw-user
