Re: [Elecraft] K2 RF Detector

2004-08-01 Thread Don Brown
Hi

If the K2 will work properly with the KPA100 removed and the DC voltage is back 
on the VRFDET line then you may have a bad U6 in the KPA100. This IC is a 
tristate op amp and if bad will load down the VRFDET line. I have found several 
of these IC's bad with the symptoms you are describing. The IC can be zapped if 
a greater than 5 volt signal is applied to the VRFDET line. This could be 
caused by a miswired 9 pin D RS232 or data connector or by static discharge. It 
may be a good idea to add a couple of diode clamps to the VRFDET line on the 
KPA100 to protect this IC. Maybe Wayne should give us some direction here. 


Don Brown  (the other Don)

KD5NDB
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  Subject: [Elecraft] K2 RF Detector


  I've moved along, (thanks Don) with my problem. It
  looks like I have a RF voltage at the input of R67
  (1.5K 1%) but nothing on the other side. No DC voltage
  at D9. What should I be seeing in this area. I was set
  for 2 watts or a bit less...
  Thanks,
  Julius 
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[Elecraft] Noise Problems...still

2004-08-01 Thread Wingkeel
Hi everyone,

 Well, the noise level has been lowered a lot, but I'm still getting 
higher noise levels than I think I should.  On 40-meters, I am getting an 
average 
of S2-4 peaking at S5 around the time thunderstorms begin to form.

I've put up a vertical which helped.  Putting down 12 tuned radials, 2 for 
each band, helped even more.  Moving the power supply a few feet away may have 
also made a difference but I can't tell by ear.

I am using the standard red/black zip type supply line from the power supply 
to the radio.  I am wondering if going to coax to supply power to the radio 
may not drop the noise level even more?  I would think that the R/C tank in the 
radios power circuit would take any ripple or noise out but maybe I'm wrong.

I also have a ground that is a 20' long piece of 10GA bare copper wire 
running to a single lightning rod from a second story window.  I'm now 
wondering if 
this wire isn't acting like part of the antenna or maybe injecting my 
transmitted signal back into the receiver via the power supply.  Since I'm only 
running 5-10 watts output, should I use coax for the ground as well and 
decouple it 
with ferrite beads just in case?

For a beginner, this is all pretty confusing!  I read so much, trying to come 
up to speed quickly. The problem is that I begin confusing which solution 
goes to what problem I remember reading about last month in some periodical  
can't remember.  

 Sometimes a little brain damage helps

 73 de Terry - KC0QZX
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Problems...still

2004-08-01 Thread Lawrence Makoski
S2 - S4 with only about S5 before a thunderstorm?  I think that's pretty
good, Terry.  Last night, just monitoring 40 Meters while puttering
around in the shack, I had an S2 - S3 level.  It would get worse from
time to time.  I think somebody in the neighborhood had an air
conditioner compressor giving off some RF hash.

73 de Larry W2LJ

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Subject: [Elecraft] Noise Problems...still


 Hi everyone,

  Well, the noise level has been lowered a lot, but I'm still
getting
 higher noise levels than I think I should.  On 40-meters, I am getting
an average
 of S2-4 peaking at S5 around the time thunderstorms begin to form.

 I've put up a vertical which helped.  Putting down 12 tuned radials, 2
for
 each band, helped even more.  Moving the power supply a few feet away
may have
 also made a difference but I can't tell by ear.

 I am using the standard red/black zip type supply line from the power
supply
 to the radio.  I am wondering if going to coax to supply power to the
radio
 may not drop the noise level even more?  I would think that the R/C
tank in the
 radios power circuit would take any ripple or noise out but maybe I'm
wrong.

 I also have a ground that is a 20' long piece of 10GA bare copper wire
 running to a single lightning rod from a second story window.  I'm now
wondering if
 this wire isn't acting like part of the antenna or maybe injecting my
 transmitted signal back into the receiver via the power supply.  Since
I'm only
 running 5-10 watts output, should I use coax for the ground as well
and decouple it
 with ferrite beads just in case?

 For a beginner, this is all pretty confusing!  I read so much, trying
to come
 up to speed quickly. The problem is that I begin confusing which
solution
 goes to what problem I remember reading about last month in some
periodical
 can't remember.

  Sometimes a little brain damage helps

  73 de Terry - KC0QZX
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Problems...still

2004-08-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
Terry,

It does sound like you are making good progress.  Take things one step at a
time and you will get up to speed - don't try to rush it.

Are your tuned radials right on the ground?  If they are, the proximity to
ground will de-tune them negating all your hard work!!!  If you can elevate
them to about 7 ft (above head height), then tuned radials are a good thing,
but if they are right on the ground the length is not critical - on the
ground you are just trying to produce a good conductive ground screen out
from the base of the antenna, so any length about 1/4 wave or more for the
lowest band will do.  If the radials are elevated, it is important that they
be tuned in relationship to the vertical element for each band.

Relating your ground system to noise pickup may be like comparing apples and
oranges.
It just might be that the ambient noise level at your location is high and
you will have to work around it.  If you have a high noise level, your
antenna proper may be picking it up and no amount of decoupling will
decrease it.  There are techniques for cancelling out noise pickup by
phasing methods, but adjustments are usually quite 'touchy' and require a
separate noise pickup antenna - you may have to resort to similar techniques
in the end, but get your main antenna system in shape first.

As an entirely different matter, your station ground system (20 ft long
copper wire) is just fine for DC and some small measure of lightning
protection, BUT it may not be providing you with a good RF ground.  Usually
the poor RF ground at the shack will show up as some RF in the shack
(metallic things 'bite' you when you are transmitting or you will get some
strange feedback 'happenings').  You can add to your ground system with just
some wire - a piece 1/4 wavelength long at each band you will operate.
Connect the near end to your station ground and run the far ends anywhere
you can.  If you need to run them in parallel, separate the ends by at least
a foot.  NOTE WELL - there may be high RF voltage on the far ends of these
wires, so insulate them just as you would for an antenna end and keep them
out of reach of others who might walk near them.  It is good to run them
straight, but not necessary, but don't make any sharp bends (use a long
radius if you must turn them).

 These wires have a high RF impedance at the far end and a low RF impedance
(ideally zero) at the shack end due to the voltage/current transformation of
a 1/4 wavelength wire. Try it and see if it helps - it certainly can't hurt
anything.

73,
Don W3FPR


- Original Message - 

  Well, the noise level has been lowered a lot, but I'm still getting
 higher noise levels than I think I should.  On 40-meters, I am getting an
average
 of S2-4 peaking at S5 around the time thunderstorms begin to form.

 I've put up a vertical which helped.  Putting down 12 tuned radials, 2 for
 each band, helped even more.  Moving the power supply a few feet away may
have
 also made a difference but I can't tell by ear.

 I am using the standard red/black zip type supply line from the power
supply
 to the radio.  I am wondering if going to coax to supply power to the
radio
 may not drop the noise level even more?  I would think that the R/C tank
in the
 radios power circuit would take any ripple or noise out but maybe I'm
wrong.

 I also have a ground that is a 20' long piece of 10GA bare copper wire
 running to a single lightning rod from a second story window.  I'm now
wondering if
 this wire isn't acting like part of the antenna or maybe injecting my
 transmitted signal back into the receiver via the power supply.  Since I'm
only
 running 5-10 watts output, should I use coax for the ground as well and
decouple it
 with ferrite beads just in case?

 For a beginner, this is all pretty confusing!  I read so much, trying to
come
 up to speed quickly. The problem is that I begin confusing which solution
 goes to what problem I remember reading about last month in some
periodical
 can't remember.



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[Elecraft] Elecraft Net Announcement

2004-08-01 Thread Kevin Rock
Sorry for this belated epistle but vegetable harvesting and freezing was 
taking most of our time yesterday.  In addition I moved three antennas 
around and rearranged the radio shack.  Hard to find time for a net 
announcement!  The fact that I missed writing one was what woke me up this 
morning.


The Elecraft CW Net will be held at the standard times and frequencies 
tomorrow.


The net will be held at the normal times and frequencies:
Sunday 2300z (Sunday 4pm PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0200z (Sunday 7pm PDT)  7045 kHz

Please visit our web site: http://ecn.visionseer.com/ for further details.
Thank you for the web space Dan.

I do hope the bands have healed sufficiently for us to cover more of North 
America and beyond.


Until 2300z 73,
Kevin.  KD5ONS   (Net Control Operator 5th Class)
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Problems...still

2004-08-01 Thread BlakeM

   Well, the noise level has been lowered a lot, but I'm still getting
  higher noise levels than I think I should.  On 40-meters, I am getting
an
 average
  of S2-4 peaking at S5 around the time thunderstorms begin to form.

I wish that I only had S2-S4 noise on 40!!!  If you put your RF gain knob to
use, that should be no problem at all.

How about a loop or beverage RX antenna?  Although it's rarely discussed,
many top notch stations swear by RX antennas for 40...

RE: elevated radials;  I've been messing with EZNEC models of both elevated
and ground mounted radials.  Unless they're really high (unpractically high,
1/4wl) they always show a bit less performance than a good normal ground
mounted system (at least 32, 0.2 to 0.4 WL long).  Neither method is going
to have much to do with the amount of noise recieved.  A dummy load is a
very low noise antenna though :-)

Perhaps a reflector like towertalk or antennaware could shed more light on
your situation.

73,
Blake N4GI





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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Problems...still

2004-08-01 Thread Michael Harris
G'day,

| higher noise levels than I think I should.  On 40-meters, I am getting
an average
| of S2-4 peaking at S5 around the time thunderstorms begin to form.

What happens when the antenna is unplugged?  S2-4 on 40 metres, presumably
at night time, doesn't sound particularly unusual to me.

That 20 foot ground is only ground at near DC.  Your vertical, whilst
not being balanced is the full two terminal antenna and doesn't need a
ground at the radio to make it work.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Problems...still

2004-08-01 Thread Tom Hammond

Hi Terry:


Well, the noise level has been lowered a lot, but I'm still getting
higher noise levels than I think I should.  On 40-meters, I am getting an 
average of S2-4 peaking at S5 around the time thunderstorms begin to form.


Can I have your weather, please? Out here in the midwest (MO), it's not at 
all unusual for me to have S9+ noise during the summer months when 
thunderstoams are still quite some disstance away.


I'd KILL for ONLY S2-S4 atmospheric noise on 40M!!!

I've put up a vertical which helped.  Putting down 12 tuned radials, 2 for 
each band, helped even more.


Unfortunately, as soon as you 'put them down' on the ground, they're no 
longer 'tuned', but they will still work WELL! SO don't sweat it one bit.


Moving the power supply a few feet away may have also made a difference 
but I can't tell by ear.


Probably only if it had a sizeable electro-magnetic field which might have 
been 'modulating' the K2's PLL... which is generally doubtful, bot not 
totally out of the question.


I am using the standard red/black zip type supply line from the power 
supply to the radio.  I am wondering if going to coax to supply power to 
the radio may not drop the noise level even more? I would think that the 
R/C tank in the radios power circuit would take any ripple or noise out 
but maybe I'm wrong.


Going to coax INSIDE THE HOUSE, will probably not be worth the added 
effort. 90%-95% chance whatever noise you're hearing is NOT being generated 
IN the house... and whatever might be, probably won't be filtered out by 
using COAX.



I also have a ground that is a 20' long piece of 10GA bare copper wire
running to a single lightning rod from a second story window.  I'm now 
wondering if this wire isn't acting like part of the antenna or maybe 
injecting my transmitted signal back into the receiver via the power 
supply.  Since I'm only running 5-10 watts output, should I use coax for 
the ground as well and decouple it with ferrite beads just in case?


Actually, the ground you have is probably NOT being very helpful with 
regard to acting as an RF ground. But it might be helping a bit as an AC 
ground. It's probably long enough that it has more than ample reactance at 
HF to make it appear as a high impedance (e.g. not an RF ground). If you 
feel you need it for RF purposes (counterpoise or RF ground), you might 
want to consider 'tuning' it with something like the MFJ-931 'Artificial 
Ground':


http://www.mfjenterprises.com/products.php?prodid=MFJ-931

This is one of the few MFJ products which I feel works as advertised, and 
decently well, too. But, it is a 'specialty' device, and I'd recommend it 
ONLY if you need it for providing an RF ground from the 2nd floor. It will 
probably NOT help get rid of any noise you might be receiving.


Such a device can be built for wuite a bit less than the $90 they're asking 
for it... takes a small tuning capacitor, an inductor, a meter, and a SMALL 
handful of additional parts... might not look as pretty but it'd be 
functional. Making it 'purty' comes AFTER you make it work.


For a beginner, this is all pretty confusing!  I read so much, trying to 
come up to speed quickly. The problem is that I begin confusing which 
solution goes to what problem I remember reading about last month in some 
periodical can't remember.


You're a General Class amateur, try using 20 meters during the day and 
early evening, rather than 40M. 20M (actually any band higher in frequency 
than 40M) will be lower in atmospheric noise, and my produce better 
listening conditions.


During the summer, 40M and 80M generally are pretty noisy, due to more or 
less local storms... being in CO doesn't help your case much, as I've seen 
how readily those storms can kick up out there (here too!). There's 
NOTHING() you can do about this, other than go to a higher frequency 
band and hope it's open to somewhere. As you get closer to Fall, the 
atmospheric conditions will moderate and 40/80M will again become much more 
productive... and quiet... but right now, you can't fight Mother Nature... 
so go with the flow, take your lumps and find a quieter band, if you can.


73,

Tom HammondN0SS

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[Elecraft] K2 #4334 alive and well!

2004-08-01 Thread Guido Tedeschi
I'm glad to announce that K2 number 4334 (unbuilt number 2591 upgraded) is
finished and it is working very fine.
It is completed with KIO2, K160RX, KAF2, KAT2, KNB2, KBT2, KSB2 and MH2 and
it took about 53 hours to be completely builded, coarse aligned and fine
aligned (I'm not fast, I know...): about 35 hours for the basic rig and 18
hours for the accessories and fine alignement.
The only issue found was that I had to add 68pF and 100pF in parallel with
C174 and C173 to have the correct BFO range (4916.77 KHz - 4912.59 KHz) but
I think that it is still not enough to calibrate the narrow filters for RTTY
using high tones, more about this on a next message
Very minor-minor issue: I found that KIO2 needs a true RS232C signal with
negative space, it did not work with a 0-8V signal and I had to slight
modify  my optocoupled CAT interface (I will publish the schematic diagram
soon...).
Sadly, the rig is not mine but it will go to his home, at iz2ftr, and it
will make a pair with his K1 #1161
I think that, probably, this winter I will build one also for me and it will
stay near his small brother, my K1 #1096, now ready for its third summer
holidays... :-)
In my city, Brescia, we have now five K1's and two K2's: the family is
growing up!
If you want to see some photos (iz2ftr's rigs are still to be added):
http://www.hamlan.org/elecraftbs/photos.htm
Ciao and 73
Guido, ik2bcp

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[Elecraft] Can't calibrate K2 narrow RTTY filters to 2.2KHz (high tones)

2004-08-01 Thread Guido Tedeschi
As I wrote in my last message, on K2 #4334 I was not able to calibrate the
narrow filters on RTTY normal to center high tones (about 2.2KHz): I reach
about 1.6KHz and then the BFO resets to the intial frequency.
It happened only on RTTY normal (LSB), on RTTY reverse (USB) I was able to
calibrate correctly the filters to match the 2125/2295Hz tones.
During the BFO calibration,  I had to add 68pF and 100pF in parallel with
C174 and C173 to have the correct BFO range (4916.77 KHz - 4912.59 KHz), do
you think that I can't calibrate the filters because the BFO limits are not
yet enough (too high or too low)?
Any suggestion?
Thanks and 73
Ciao
Guido, ik2bcp

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[Elecraft] test

2004-08-01 Thread Rod N0RC
123... excuse the BW PLS

--
73, Rod N0RC

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Re: [Elecraft] Can't calibrate K2 narrow RTTY filters to 2.2KHz (hightones)

2004-08-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
Guido,

The BFO RANGE is not sufficient to set the BFO far enough from the carrier
and permit a tone of 2295 Hz on both sidebands.  You will need a minimum
range of 4590 Hz (and likely at least 500 Hz more will be required for a
comfortable margin).  Your range is only 4180 Hz.

You could try increasing the BFO range or reset all the RTTY BFOs to center
the filters at 1125/1295 rather than 2125/2295.  This will require tuning
the RTTY signal offset by 1 kHz and most sound card programs will properly
handle that - if you are using a hardware TNC that requires the 'real'
2125/2295 audio tones, you will have to increase the BFO range further.

73,
Don W3FPR

- Original Message - 

 As I wrote in my last message, on K2 #4334 I was not able to calibrate the
 narrow filters on RTTY normal to center high tones (about 2.2KHz): I reach
 about 1.6KHz and then the BFO resets to the intial frequency.
 It happened only on RTTY normal (LSB), on RTTY reverse (USB) I was able to
 calibrate correctly the filters to match the 2125/2295Hz tones.
 During the BFO calibration,  I had to add 68pF and 100pF in parallel with
 C174 and C173 to have the correct BFO range (4916.77 KHz - 4912.59 KHz),
do
 you think that I can't calibrate the filters because the BFO limits are
not
 yet enough (too high or too low)?
 Any suggestion?


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Net Announcement

2004-08-01 Thread jay gutknecht
Sorry missed today Kevin.  Will try to make it tomorrow night.
 
Also The Flying Pigs QRP Club will be starting a Slow Code Practice Net  We 
call the 3 WPM net.  You all are welcome to join us.  If your rusty or learning 
or if you just love CW you can help others that need it.  1st one tonight at 
1900 Central 2400Z 7.044 plus or minus QRM.
 
Jay
KC9EUH
FP 750
FISTS 5344

Kevin Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry for this belated epistle but vegetable harvesting and freezing was 
taking most of our time yesterday. In addition I moved three antennas 
around and rearranged the radio shack. Hard to find time for a net 
announcement! The fact that I missed writing one was what woke me up this 
morning.

The Elecraft CW Net will be held at the standard times and frequencies 
tomorrow.

The net will be held at the normal times and frequencies:
Sunday 2300z (Sunday 4pm PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0200z (Sunday 7pm PDT) 7045 kHz

Please visit our web site: http://ecn.visionseer.com/ for further details.
Thank you for the web space Dan.

I do hope the bands have healed sufficiently for us to cover more of North 
America and beyond.

Until 2300z 73,
Kevin. KD5ONS (Net Control Operator 5th Class)

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[Elecraft] ECN de w0rw/pm

2004-08-01 Thread W0rw
Thanks AA3WF for QSP.
i was running KX1 at 3W using an 8 foot whip in my rear pocket
and a drag wire.
Condx not too good.
w0rw/Pedestrian Mobile in Colorado Springs, CO.
Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] ECN de w0rw/pm

2004-08-01 Thread Mychael Morohovich
No problem, Paul. Your 3 watts barely made it here to Western PA, but I did
manage to get your call sign . When you sent /PM, I had to think about
that for second. I believe that Wayne has managed to start a new trend with
the ol' peripatetic technique- hi.

Ron AC7AC generously sent me his KX1 (SN#3) to play with. I'll have to get
it out with the intention of jumping on this /PM bandwagon!

73 es tnx for the QNI,

Mychael


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[Elecraft] Pedestrian Mobile operation

2004-08-01 Thread Doug Shields
Hello,
I must say that I admire your ability to operate CW while walking.  I
can chew bubble gum and walk simultaneously with no problem.  However, it
requires far too much of my brain to copy CW.  Attempting to walk at the
same time would be disastrous.  I guess I need a LOT more practice copying
code.

Doug  W4DAS


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[Elecraft] I vote no

2004-08-01 Thread Robert McGwier
I for one vote no on the recent changes to the header for the email
from the reflector.  It has made it more difficult to distinguish
replies directed to me personally from those emails intended to go to the
mail exploder and now they all go into my inbox.  If this is a mailman
change, it is not welcome.

Bob


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 #4334 alive and well!

2004-08-01 Thread Doug Forman


On Aug 1, 2004, at 1:33 PM, Guido Tedeschi wrote:


If you want to see some photos (iz2ftr's rigs are still to be added):
http://www.hamlan.org/elecraftbs/photos.htm


Hi Guido,

Would you like to describe your QRP Power Pack featured in the photos?

Thanks  73,

Doug  N7BNT

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RE: [Elecraft] ECN de w0rw/pm

2004-08-01 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Naw, my KX-1 S/N 0004. Wayne gets 1, Eric gets 2, Gary gets 3 so I got 4. Of
course it was the second KX-1 to actually make RF, but it's still S/N 4 G.

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
No problem, Paul. Your 3 watts barely made it here to Western PA, but I did
manage to get your call sign . When you sent /PM, I had to think about
that for second. I believe that Wayne has managed to start a new trend with
the ol' peripatetic technique- hi.

Ron AC7AC generously sent me his KX1 (SN#3) to play with. I'll have to get
it out with the intention of jumping on this /PM bandwagon!

73 es tnx for the QNI,

Mychael



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[Elecraft] KX1 Sn 00759

2004-08-01 Thread James McNichol
Hi All,

I am finally building my KX1.  Finished assembly section 1 and Alignment  Test 
1.  All is well.

Jim

N3LBY
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[Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature

2004-08-01 Thread Rod N0RC
Earlier today all email delivered by way of the Elecraft list started
coming with the To field set to me, and the CC field set to:
Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net. Is anybody else
seeing this? Or is it just me?

If this is the new norm was an announcement made? If so I missed it.

--
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Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature

2004-08-01 Thread John J. McDonough
- Original Message - 
From: Rod N0RC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:20 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature

 Earlier today all email delivered by way of the Elecraft list started
 coming with the To field set to me, and the CC field set to:
 Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net. Is anybody else
 seeing this? Or is it just me?

I'm seeing that.  Hadn't noticed it since I have my filters set for To as
well as CC.  Looks like around 9AM eastern.

72/73 de WB8RCRhttp://www.qsl.net/wb8rcr
didileydadidah QRP-L #1446 Code Warriors #35


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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net

2004-08-01 Thread Kevin Rock


Unless someone else takes the reins and runs the 40 meter Elecraft CW Net 
tonight it will not take place.  My backup rig is dead and I cannot 
determine a quick fix.  I have no other HF rig in  house so cannot get on 
the air.

   I am very sorry,
  Kevin.   KD5ONS
 
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Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature

2004-08-01 Thread James T. Jim Rogers
Well, I for one would never have noticed the change if my attention had 
not
been directed to it. Can't see it makes a whole lot of difference.
Jim W4ATK
K2/100 4028

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[Elecraft] Elecraft Net Errata

2004-08-01 Thread Kevin Rock

I just found out Mychael checked in

VE1RGB - Gary - NS - K2 - 2519

also.  I have Gary in my notes but not his callsign nor anything else 
about the QNI.


Sorry Gary and thank you for checking in.
   Kevin.   KD5ONS 
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Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature

2004-08-01 Thread Mike S
In general, To and From headers shouldn't be used to filter list traffic. 
Properly used, neither will contain information which can uniquely identify a 
message as coming from a list. 

Most modern list servers add specific headers suited to identifying messages 
coming via the list. In this case, the best header to filter on is probably:

List-Id: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft.mailman.qth.net


At 09:20 PM 8/1/2004, Rod N0RC wrote...
Earlier today all email delivered by way of the Elecraft list started
coming with the To field set to me, and the CC field set to:
Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net. Is anybody else
seeing this? Or is it just me?

If this is the new norm was an announcement made? If so I missed it.

--
73, Rod N0RC

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Re: [Elecraft] I vote no

2004-08-01 Thread n6tqs
I saw the change, and don't particularly like it.

It'd be good if among all the List-headers, there was an
List-Owner: line.

73, doug
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Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature

2004-08-01 Thread W2AGN
On Sunday 01 August 2004 21:37, Mike S wrote:
 In general, To and From headers shouldn't be used to filter list traffic.
 Properly used, neither will contain information which can uniquely identify
 a message as coming from a list.


Yeah, you could end up sending it directly to somebody that hadn't even posted 
on this thread. Can't figure how that happened. 

-- 
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http://w2agn.net
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[Elecraft] ECN

2004-08-01 Thread James T. Jim Rogers
Anyone hear the ECN. I don't hear anything on 7045 but a close in CW
station in a rag chew.

Jim W4ATK

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[Elecraft] RE: ECN

2004-08-01 Thread James T. Jim Rogers
Found it!

Jim W4ATK
k2/100 4028
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Re: [Elecraft] For Trade FT-897D for K2/100

2004-08-01 Thread NZ8J
The FT-897 has been sold.. thanks
Tim
NZ8J
- Original Message -
From: NZ8J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 5:03 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] For Trade FT-897D for K2/100


 Looking to trade a less than one week old Yaesu FT-897D for a late serial
 number K2/100. The FT-897 is as new with all the stuff that came with it
 plus the optional 500hz cw filter already installed. If you have one you'd
 like to trade please send details of what you have.  I might consider a
very
 late K2 (#4060 or higher) with all options. I'll be away from email until
 Sunday afternoon, but I'll answer all responses when I return.
 Thanks
 Tim
 NZ8J


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Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature

2004-08-01 Thread Art-W6KY
Using SBCGlobal.net mail, before when I hit reply to a thread, it only
addressed the 'reflector'. Now this reply is going to the 'reflector' and
whoever's message I'm replyig to. In this case, one direct to 
John (W2AGN) and the 2nd message thru the reflector. He will get
2 eMails of the same reply
I've never seen a reflector addressed like this. ... I also vote no...
Also, all the art-w6ky mail is mixed in with the EleCraft mail.
73, Art  W6KY

W2AGN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 01 August 2004 21:37, Mike S wrote:
 In general, To and From headers shouldn't be used to filter list traffic.
 Properly used, neither will contain information which can uniquely identify
 a message as coming from a list.


Yeah, you could end up sending it directly to somebody that hadn't even posted 
on this thread. Can't figure how that happened. 

-- 
John W2AGN
http://w2agn.net
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net reports

2004-08-01 Thread Kevin Rock
It appears I can no longer send net reports because QTH net considers them 
to be spam.  Maybe I should post them on the ECN website instead.  But 
then I cannot announce that on the Reflector because that would be 
considered spam.  Even my question to QTH net about spam was considered 
spam and rejected.  I think their system has a hairball.

   Kevin.   KD5ONS
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[Elecraft] Fwd: ECN2 08/02/2004

2004-08-01 Thread Kevin Rock
Here is the net report from Tom.  I was having more than my share of 
equipment failures this evening.  I am very happy Tom was able to hear me 
well enough to take the net.


Thank you very much Mr. Hammond.  Now to get my K2 squared away and the 
rest of the problems taken care of!

   73,
   Kevin.   KD5ONS

--- Forwarded message ---
From: Tom Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Kevin Rock KD50NS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ECN2 08/02/2004
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 22:05:45 -0500


Hi Kevin:


QNS

   kd5ons
   n0ss
   n0tkdan co  k2  3652
   w6kyart ca  k1  141
   kl7v/5  sam ok  k2
   w4atk   jim al  k2  4028
   ai4bj   markky  k2  3862
   k4yki   normky  k1  0760
   w0rw/pm paulco  kx1 0292
   n9ivrussin  kx1 0742
   n2ycjohnny  kx1 0336
   wa0qzk  jackin  mfj-9040 5w   warsaw579 599

40M was just about what I'd expected... no biggie storms nearby but 
still more than ample QRN for the evening.


73,

Tom

 
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Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature

2004-08-01 Thread Kevin Rock
It appears the owners of the Elecraft list have done more than change its 
name.  They are also rejecting messages which never before were considered 
spam.  I think QTH net is going the way of Monty Python: spam, spam, spam, 
spam, eggs and spam.  On'y a 'ittle rat in it.  Maybe things will 
straighten out by Monday.

   Kevin.  KD5ONS


On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 19:45:09 -0700 (PDT), Art-W6KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Using SBCGlobal.net mail, before when I hit reply to a thread, it only
addressed the 'reflector'. Now this reply is going to the 'reflector' and
whoever's message I'm replyig to. In this case, one direct to
John (W2AGN) and the 2nd message thru the reflector. He will get
2 eMails of the same reply
I've never seen a reflector addressed like this. ... I also vote no...
Also, all the art-w6ky mail is mixed in with the EleCraft mail.
73, Art  W6KY

W2AGN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 01 August 2004 21:37, Mike S wrote:
In general, To and From headers shouldn't be used to filter list 
traffic.
Properly used, neither will contain information which can uniquely 
identify

a message as coming from a list.



Yeah, you could end up sending it directly to somebody that hadn't even 
posted

on this thread. Can't figure how that happened.





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RE: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature

2004-08-01 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I have Outlook set to put anything with [Elecraft] in the subject line into
the Elecraft message folder. That word is consistent, no matter what
changes in the address fields.

To avoid sending out duplicate messages, the new format requires me to
delete the TO address, then copy and paste the CC to the list into the TO
field, since the TO field must be populated to send the message. 

Not very friendly I must say. The reverse would be much better - list as
the TO default and a cc to the original poster that could be erased if not
wanted.

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
In general, To and From headers shouldn't be used to filter list traffic.
Properly used, neither will contain information which can uniquely identify
a message as coming from a list. 

Most modern list servers add specific headers suited to identifying messages
coming via the list. In this case, the best header to filter on is probably:

L


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Re: [Elecraft] ECN

2004-08-01 Thread Tom Hammond

Hi Jim:

Glad yo finally found us... sometimes, if the band's busy up around 7045, 
Kevin will move down a couple kHz and start it out.


73,

Tom   N0SS

At 09:04 PM 8/1/04, James T. \Jim\ Rogers wrote:

Anyone hear the ECN. I don't hear anything on 7045 but a close in CW
station in a rag chew.

Jim W4ATK

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Re: [Elecraft] email reflector headers glitch or feature

2004-08-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
Folks,

I have not really seen a difference, but after looking the headers have
changed.

I filter on [Elecraft] in the subject line and that has worked well for me.

73,
Don W3FPR

- Original Message - 

 In general, To and From headers shouldn't be used to filter list traffic.
Properly used, neither will contain information which can uniquely identify
a message as coming from a list.

 Most modern list servers add specific headers suited to identifying
messages coming via the list. In this case, the best header to filter on is
probably:

 List-Id: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft.mailman.qth.net



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[Elecraft] 2.3kHz KSB2 feedback

2004-08-01 Thread John Rader
I recently built a KSB2 with the now standard 2.3Khz filter configuration. I 
have been recieving compliments on the TX audio quality. Some have said the 
SSB audio is the best they have heard from a K2. The filter sweeps on 
Sectrogram show less ripple and more symmetry then my previous 2.5kHz KSB2.

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[Elecraft] Re: email reflector headers glitch or feature

2004-08-01 Thread wayne burdick
Eric will sort this out when he returns on Monday. Sorry for any 
confusion.


Wayne
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[Elecraft] Long wire balun question

2004-08-01 Thread John Rader
I put up a 125' long wire antenna at 35' this weekend. It tunes up well 
10m-80m running directly to the KAT2. I am wondering if I should ad an 
unbalaced feedline and a 4:1 current balun between the tuner and antenna. 
Would this reduce potential RF in the shack or change the antenna's 
efficiency?

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Re: [Elecraft] 2.3kHz KSB2 feedback

2004-08-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
Folks,

I didn't know that the 2.2 (or 2.3) kHz SSB filter had become the
'standard', but it does get my vote.  I have long advocated the KI6WX 2.2
kHz filter bandwidth as my choice for a great compromise between 'punch' for
QRP operation and good SSB fidelity.  It does offer a flatter passband than
the original 2.0 kHz SSB filter.  To my mind, the 2.5 kHz bandwidth is a bit
too wide, but many folks favor it for the increase in fidelity.

I do recall there was a time when the Collins 1.8 kHz  mechanical filter was
considered the ultimate for communications effectiveness - at least in the
receive part of things - my how times and values have changed!!!

73,
Don W3FPR

- Original Message - 

 I recently built a KSB2 with the now standard 2.3Khz filter configuration.
I
 have been recieving compliments on the TX audio quality. Some have said
the
 SSB audio is the best they have heard from a K2. The filter sweeps on
 Sectrogram show less ripple and more symmetry then my previous 2.5kHz
KSB2.
 John K5XTX



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Re: [Elecraft] Long wire balun question

2004-08-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
John,

There is not much you can do about the antenna efficiency short of changing
the physical characteristics of the antenna itself - if it works, it works
and the voltage/current relationship at the feedpoint will determine its
impedance and how easily it can be matched.

A balun does not make sense to me with a long wire antenna fed directly out
of the tuner, but an efficient and effective RF ground does make a lot of
sense.  If you suspect any problems with RF feedback, try adding a 1/4 wave
wire for each band at the shack (tuner output) location.  The wires should
be separated at the ends and since they may have a high RF voltage on them,
be certain that they are well insulated and cannot be contacted by persons
unaware of the danger.

73, Don W3FPR

- Original Message - 

 I put up a 125' long wire antenna at 35' this weekend. It tunes up well
 10m-80m running directly to the KAT2. I am wondering if I should ad an
 unbalaced feedline and a 4:1 current balun between the tuner and antenna.
 Would this reduce potential RF in the shack or change the antenna's
 efficiency?


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Re: [Elecraft] I vote no

2004-08-01 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 01:02:57AM -, Robert McGwier wrote:
 I for one vote no on the recent changes to the header for the email
 from the reflector.  It has made it more difficult to distinguish
 replies directed to me personally from those emails intended to go to the
 mail exploder and now they all go into my inbox.  If this is a mailman
 change, it is not welcome.

The old messages show the following:

Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-BeenThere: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Of these, the latest messages show only the X-BeenThere header.  That
should be usable for filtering (by procmail or ???).  This is a newer
version of Mailman (2.1.4 vs 2.0.8), which may explain the change.  The 
older version is no longer supported by the authors.

73,
Bob Nielsen, N7XY



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