Re: [Elecraft] spectrogram for mac or linux?
On Mon, 28 May 2007 08:59:54 -0400 Bill Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 17, 2007, at 12:08 AM, sergio t. ruiz wrote: is there a suitable program for mac or linux? For the Mac, I use Cocoamodem. http://homepage.mac.com/chen I use Baudline on Linux... http://www.baudline.com/ more complex than Spectrogram - but more fun things to tweak!! Cheers, John Gm4SLV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] REAL CW!!
On Tue, 29 May 2007 14:01:56 -0700 Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much has been written on this reflector about the sound of the sidetone, particularly the K2's sidetone, and about stability and narrow band clickless keying, stable signals, with today's operators asking for razor-sharp selectivity in order to copy signals in a crowded band. Here are some recordings of actual COMMERCIAL CW maritime signals on the 600 meter (500 KHz) band from the 1970's in European waters http://www.n1ea.coastalradio.org.uk/W1DM_500_EU_74.zip I've been listening to the various recordings here and enjoying them enormously! Can someone develop a K2 mod to give us (switchable) control of the CW quality - I like the rich variety of signals on these recordings. The bands these days sound a bit too perfect with all the T9X signals around! I suppose moving a large PSU near the K2 should give the AC modulation, how do we het the bullfrog on acid effect? It's much easier to copy a rough, chirpy signal in the QRM because it stands out from the norm. Some of the fists on the recordings were interesting too! I've just recalibrated my K2 filters to give me a widest CW filter at 1.5KHz so I can re-create the wide open - hear everything feel! It's HF CW field day in Europe and sitting on 20m (albeit not in great shape propagation wise) with a wide filter is great fun... Cheers, John GM4SLV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Alternative to Spectrogram
I am not sure if this has been posted before but I find that DL4YHF's Spectrum Lab is far superior to Spectrogram. Freeware available at http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/spectra1.html 73 Gregg ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2: 8A Control Resistance 2.72 to 3.50 depending on R1
David Woolley wrote: I've assembled the control board (and most of the front panel. In doing the control board resistance checks I've got an apparently out of range value for the 8A value. With R1 at the low resistance end of the track, it is 2k72, which is below the minimum of 3k0, in the manual. With R1 at the high resistance limit, it is 3k5. Do I have a problem? I *did* have a problem that was indicated by this; even though I thought I had carefully checked, I mixed up the 5 and 8 volt regulators. I've switched them over now, and apart from losing some of the through hole plating, it seems OK, with a couple of minor reservations. In the hope that it will help someone searching in the future, the symptoms, on powering up, were: - All the segments on the display showed to some extent from all angles and dominated the proper display when viewed from above the horizontal. - When the power supply voltage was above, approximately, the 8V regulator drop out, it kept sensing slight changes in the pots, so the display kept going to various parameter mode change displays. - The current draw, measured externally, was around 220mA. - Nothing on the control board seemed to be running warm, but there were indications that something on the front panel, near the centre, was, although not really hot. - The internal voltmeter, was showing about 5V when the external supply was turned down (I presume this is because it was using the the nominal 5V as the reference, which was actually just was close to the supply voltage, as the 8V regulator in the 5V supply had dropped out. - No segments lit on the bargraph. The slight reservations are that the AGC threshold calibration voltage only reaches 3.79, with R1 on the end stop and the current sense test showed 0.14 amps (0.08 to 0.22) difference most of the time, with the odd excursion to 0.16, compared with the manual figures of 0.16 to 0.18. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] O.T.
Can anyone help me with a copy of the instruction manual and calibration detail for the Stockton Wattmeter that was marketed by Kanga Products a couple of years back? TIA Bill Scovell / VK4SQ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] spectrogram for mac or linux?
Hi, is there a suitable program for mac or linux? for OSX you can take a look to iSpectrum from dogparksoftware. Here is the link: http://www.dogparksoftware.com/iSpectrum.html 73 de thomas, dk2nb ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] REAL CW!!
There were one or two interesting signals there last night, one sounded almost like spark! I prefer a wide setting for most of the time. David G3UNA G4BP/P - Original Message - From: John GM4SLV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] REAL CW!! It's HF CW field day in Europe and sitting on 20m (albeit not in great shape propagation wise) with a wide filter is great fun... Cheers, John GM4SLV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2: ext battery suggestions?
I use sealed GelCells Doug... These are the found in UPS units, usually in pairs. The price is right I can get them for free when the cells fail. It seems that one battery will go well before another. I use them in tandem with the internal battery for QRP. Picked up a Solar panel to keep a charge on them, but haven't deployed it yet. You could use motorcycle or mower batteries as well. My preference is to stay away from anything that can spill. Cheers, Julius n2wn ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was launched. And in 1981 - the whole PC world, as we now know it was started. CP/M was also on the runway - but big blue, killed it at the gate. Supposedly Gates bought the guts of DOS or PC BASIC, from a college friend, for a pittance. Had nothing to do with the Osborne Computer Inc. company. They just happened to be one of several companies; Heath, Osborne, . - who at that time ran under CP/M. So I'd call it the Gates effect. N3CSY Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2: 8A Control Resistance 2.72 to 3.50 depending on R1
David Woolley wrote: The slight reservations are that the AGC threshold calibration voltage only reaches 3.79, with R1 on the end stop Oops! I hadn't set the RF Gain control properly! Now re-calibrated. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2: ext battery suggestions?
Hi The following taken from the instructions for my Solar Controller Kit may be helpful. I have also used a 35 amp hour electric wheelchair gel cell battery and 2 35 watt solar panels with my controller on field day to run a K2/100 at about 75 watts out. This allowed operation for the full duration of the field day (day and night) without using any external power. Don Brown KD5NDB Sizing Your Solar Charging System The solar panel and battery needs to be matched to your system requirements. Although there is a wide range of specifications that will work, there are certain limits that must not be exceeded or damage to your battery may occur or at least may shorten its life. The first requirement is the amount of power in amp/hours you will need to operate your equipment. This is simply the average ampere draw times the number of hours you want to operate the equipment. This number will be the size of battery you will need. You should add 15 to 25% to this number to have some reserve capacity. Next you need to determine the size of your solar panel. Solar panels are rated in watts or sometimes current. If it is rated in current multiply by 14 volts (the fully charged battery terminal voltage) to get watts. Unless your panel can track the sun as the earth rotates you will need to figure on only about 4 hours of charging time near the rated output of the panel with several hours at reduced output. To make the math easy let's use four hours of sun per day. Divide the battery capacity by four to get the charging current. To convert to watts multiply by 14 volts. This is the size panel you will need. You can use a larger panel but you must not exceed the maximum charging current of the battery. This is about 1/3 of the batteries amp hour capacity. Just make sure the charge current is not higher than this number. OK let's design a system for the Elecraft K2. Suppose you want to operate for 4 hours per day. The K2 draws 250 ma on receive and about 2.5 amps on transmit. Let's assume 75% of the time is receiving and 25% is transmitting. So .25 amps times 4 hours times .75 is 0.75 amp/hours for receive. When transmitting assume about a 50% duty cycle so 2.5 amps times 4 hours times 25 times .50 is 1.25 amp/hours. Add the receive requirement to the transmit requirement and we get 2.0 amp/hours. Add 25% for a reserve and we get 2.5 amp/hours. The internal battery option for the K2 has a 2.9 amp/hour battery so lets design for it, as it is a little larger than we need in the above example. 2.9 amp/hours divided by four hours is 0.73 amps for our charging current. Multiply by 14 to get watts and we get 10.2 watts. The maximum charge current for this battery is 2.9 amps divided by 3 or 0.97 amps times 14 volts is 13.5 watts. A 10 watt panel would be perfect for this application. You could probably use a 15 watt panel safely because most of the panels will not reach their rated output unless they are exactly perpendicular to the sun at high noon at a mid latitude. The panels should be mounted facing south at an angle equal to your latitude so they get direct exposure to the sun for the most hours. Solar Panels are constant current devices. Constant current devices seem a little strange because most of us are familiar with constant voltage devices like batteries and power supplies. A constant current device like a solar panel will supply the same current into any load up to its open circuit voltage as long as the load current is equal to or greater than the current supplied by the device. For instance if a solar panel is capable of supplying 1 amp of current it will supply that same one amp into a short circuit, a 6 volt battery or a 12 volt battery. The current supplied is determined by the size of the cells in the panel and the amount of light falling on the panel. Panels will supply 18 to 30 volts open circuit determined by the number of cells in series. This is the reason for a controller. Without one the panel would keep supplying the charging current as long as the panel is in the light possibly overcharging the battery shorting its life. - Original Message - From: J F [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 6:20 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K2: ext battery suggestions? I use sealed GelCells Doug... These are the found in UPS units, usually in pairs. The price is right I can get them for free when the cells fail. It seems that one battery will go well before another. I use them in tandem with the internal battery for QRP. Picked up a Solar panel to keep a charge on them, but haven't deployed it yet. You could use motorcycle or mower batteries as well. My preference is to stay away from anything that can spill. Cheers, Julius n2wn ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You
[Elecraft] Anyone using this solder station?
I recently found a solder station on eBay. This is the link. Has anyone tried one of these? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140124337288fromMakeTrack=truessPageName=VIP:watchlink:middle:us NV7F -- Visit http://oceansblue.biz ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Low output power on SSB after BW mod
I just performed the 2.4 KHz bandwidth mod. While the audio response is better the output power is only 80-85 watts on SSB on normal voice peaks with ssba set to 2 and ssbc set to 2. If I whistle loudly into the mic I can get 100 watts out. On cw the radio puts out 100w or more on all bands. This was not expected as the new filter should have less loss? Any ideas on how I can get the SSB output up to 100 watts Gregg W6IZT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Anyone using this solder station?
Sun, 3 Jun 2007 08:42:37 (-0600) Rob Lundahl wrote ... I recently found a solder station on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140124337288fromMakeTrac k=truessPageName=VIP:watchlink:middle:us Has anyone tried one of these? -- Rob, 1) It does not state whether the iron tip is grounded. If the tips are indeed ceramic then I would think it would be impossible to know what potential they are at. (I can inquire about this further at my workplace on Monday if you are interested.) Until then, you can check out this link ... http://www.midwestesd.org/fundesd1.html which explains the Triboelectric Series. 2) 24-60-40 TMC is NOT high quality solder. Do not use it on anything! Only use 63/37 eutectic solder. (IN MY MIND, THE FACT THAT 60/40 SOLDER IS REFERRED TO AS HIGH QUALITY CASTS DOUBT ON EVERY OTHER CLAIM!) In addition, there's no mention of the kind of flux. WARNING! Water soluble fluxes are corrosive, and impossible to completely remove from stranded wire since they wick up under the insulation. 3) Return policy not specified. Read item description for any reference to return policy. (Warning!) 4) Price $79.99 You should be able to find a good ESD soldering station for about $55. Check out Circuit Specialists, Contact East, and others. 5) The very tiny photo leaves much to the imagination. 73, Gary, KI4GGX K2 #4067 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE: Low output power on SSB after BW mod
Using an MH2 mic -Original Message- From: W6IZT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:33 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Low output power on SSB after BW mod I just performed the 2.4 KHz bandwidth mod. While the audio response is better the output power is only 80-85 watts on SSB on normal voice peaks with ssba set to 2 and ssbc set to 2. If I whistle loudly into the mic I can get 100 watts out. On cw the radio puts out 100w or more on all bands. This was not expected as the new filter should have less loss? Any ideas on how I can get the SSB output up to 100 watts Gregg W6IZT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
Fred (FL) wrote: And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was launched. And in 1981 - the whole PC world, as we now know it was started. CP/M was also on the runway - but big blue, killed it at the gate. Supposedly Gates bought the guts of DOS or PC BASIC, from a college friend, for a pittance. Had nothing to do with the Osborne Computer Inc. company. They just happened to be one of several companies; Heath, Osborne, . - who at that time ran under CP/M. So I'd call it the Gates effect. N3CSY Not quite correct but almost. IBM came calling to the CP/M folks looking for an OS for the PC. Gary Kildahl blew them off and didn't show for the meeting. IBM went elsewhere and the rest was history. -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] spectrogram for mac or linux?
For MacOS-X check out MultiMode OSX from Black Cat Systems. (http://www.blackcatsystems.com/software/multimode.html) You must purchase the software in order to transmit but you can run it in receive to see how it works. It has some very nice signal analysis tools including autocorrelation, FFT, bitrate analysis, etc. 73 de Brian, WB6RQN Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Anyone using this solder station?
Rob, When you can get a Hakko 936 for only a couple bucks more, I would not bother with that one. The ad looks like a lot of advertizing hype to me, which usually means there is not a lot of substance in the product. Check out www.hmcelectronics.com for one good source of the Hakko 936 - it is the best soldering station that I have used, but some folks will argue that the Weller is their choice - both are good, and you can get tips and parts for a long time after the purchase. 73, Don W3FPR Rob Lundahl wrote: I recently found a solder station on eBay. This is the link. Has anyone tried one of these? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140124337288fromMakeTrack=truessPageName=VIP:watchlink:middle:us ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:54 AM, Fred (FL) wrote: And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was launched. The way I remember it, IBM decided they wanted a version of CP/M for their new Intel 8086-based system and went to Digital Research. Somehow the folks at DR managed to really annoy the folks from IBM. (I heard it that Gary Kildall's wife wouldn't deal with them because Gary was out-of-town.) So IBM turned to the small company that was supposed to provide the BASIC interpreter for the new PC: Microsoft. Bill Gates of Microsoft assured IBM that Microsoft had a replacement for CP/M-86 even though they really didn't. (Ah, vapor-ware has been with us for a LONG time.) Microsoft then quickly purchased the rights to a CP/M lookalike called QDOS. That became IBM's PC-DOS which Microsoft then renamed MS-DOS. The rest is history. 73 de Brian, WB6RQN Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Anyone using this solder station?
KI4GGX: 4) Price $79.99 You should be able to find a good ESD soldering station for about $55. Check out Circuit Specialists, Contact East, and others. Below is a clone of the Hakko 936 for $34.95. I used one to build my K2, ATS-2 (SMD), ATS-3 (SMD), ZM-2 and various other things. Indeed it is an exact clone of the Hakko, has the same circuit diagram, same pc board layout and uses the same tips. It may actually be made by the same manufacturer (Chinese) Hakko uses. http://www.circuitspecialists.com/prod.itml/icOid/7307 73, Bill W4ZV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
That's the story I remember. Gates has been great at acquiring other peoples projects and turning them into gold..I'm not sure he's ever actually written a line of code! Doug W6JD -- Original message -- From: Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:54 AM, Fred (FL) wrote: And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was launched. The way I remember it, IBM decided they wanted a version of CP/M for their new Intel 8086-based system and went to Digital Research. Somehow the folks at DR managed to really annoy the folks from IBM. (I heard it that Gary Kildall's wife wouldn't deal with them because Gary was out-of-town.) So IBM turned to the small company that was supposed to provide the BASIC interpreter for the new PC: Microsoft. Bill Gates of Microsoft assured IBM that Microsoft had a replacement for CP/M-86 even though they really didn't. (Ah, vapor-ware has been with us for a LONG time.) Microsoft then quickly purchased the rights to a CP/M lookalike called QDOS. That became IBM's PC-DOS which Microsoft then renamed MS-DOS. The rest is history. 73 de Brian, WB6RQN Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
When I worked for Dominion Semiconductor (Toshiba/IBM joint venture) one of the IBM engineers related that same story to me. Basically Gates didn't have anything but knew where to get it. Even as an 18 year old geek is was a shrewd businessman. Tom kf4yyd -- Original message -- From: Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:54 AM, Fred (FL) wrote: And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was launched. The way I remember it, IBM decided they wanted a version of CP/M for their new Intel 8086-based system and went to Digital Research. Somehow the folks at DR managed to really annoy the folks from IBM. (I heard it that Gary Kildall's wife wouldn't deal with them because Gary was out-of-town.) So IBM turned to the small company that was supposed to provide the BASIC interpreter for the new PC: Microsoft. Bill Gates of Microsoft assured IBM that Microsoft had a replacement for CP/M-86 even though they really didn't. (Ah, vapor-ware has been with us for a LONG time.) Microsoft then quickly purchased the rights to a CP/M lookalike called QDOS. That became IBM's PC-DOS which Microsoft then renamed MS-DOS. The rest is history. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/829 - Release Date: 6/2/2007 5:26 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
In a message dated 6/3/07 1:44:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Gates of Microsoft assured IBM that Microsoft had a replacement for CP/M-86 even though they really didn't. (Ah, vapor-ware has been with us for a LONG time.) Microsoft then quickly purchased the rights to a CP/M lookalike called QDOS. That became IBM's PC-DOS which Microsoft then renamed MS-DOS. The rest is history. That's the story I heard, too. Microsoft had to do some things to QDOS, particularly writing documentation and following up with later versions, but that's a far cry from developing an OS from the ground up. But for me, the early success of Microsoft was based on some smart business choices by Bill Gates friends, and by a court decision. The court decision was the one involving Franklin computers, (remember them?) which involved the 'clean room' method of reverse-engineering the IBM-PC's BIOS. The courts made it possible for true IBM-PC compatible clones to be made and sold legally. The smart business choice went like this, as I heard it: IBM did not buy exclusive rights to MS-DOS. Gates could sell DOS to anybody else who wanted it. If a company wanted DOS, they could buy it two ways: 1) Pay a certain fee per copy 2) Pay a fixed fee up front, and then a much lower fee per copy. But the buyer had to agree to include MS-DOS with every computer they made. Other OS's could be included as well, just so long as MS-DOS was part of the deal. The pricing was adjusted so that option 2) was by far the least expensive for the computer makers. This gave Microsoft big bucks upfront from the fixed fees, which was good. But even better, it caused millions of first-time computer buyers to adopt DOS as their default OS, simply because it came with the computer. 73 de Jim, N2EY ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
I can remember when I started writing in assembler for my IBMPC that came with PCDOS 1.0. The calls to the operating system were exactly like CP/M. All you had to do was load a memory address (I forget which one) with a value that defined the type of system you call you were making and then execute a CALL to address 0004 and away you went. PCDOS 2.0 change all of that. John [K7SVV] - Original Message - From: Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fred (FL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans . On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:54 AM, Fred (FL) wrote: And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was launched. The way I remember it, IBM decided they wanted a version of CP/M for their new Intel 8086-based system and went to Digital Research. Somehow the folks at DR managed to really annoy the folks from IBM. (I heard it that Gary Kildall's wife wouldn't deal with them because Gary was out-of-town.) So IBM turned to the small company that was supposed to provide the BASIC interpreter for the new PC: Microsoft. Bill Gates of Microsoft assured IBM that Microsoft had a replacement for CP/M-86 even though they really didn't. (Ah, vapor-ware has been with us for a LONG time.) Microsoft then quickly purchased the rights to a CP/M lookalike called QDOS. That became IBM's PC-DOS which Microsoft then renamed MS-DOS. The rest is history. 73 de Brian, WB6RQN Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/829 - Release Date: 6/2/2007 5:26 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Anyone using this solder station?
A couple of nice changes to the iron from Circuit Specialists is the addition of a power-on light and they moved the on/off switch to the front. I have the Hakko and find it a pain to have the switch on the side. John [K7SVV] - Original Message - From: Bill Tippett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:50 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Anyone using this solder station? KI4GGX: 4) Price $79.99 You should be able to find a good ESD soldering station for about $55. Check out Circuit Specialists, Contact East, and others. Below is a clone of the Hakko 936 for $34.95. I used one to build my K2, ATS-2 (SMD), ATS-3 (SMD), ZM-2 and various other things. Indeed it is an exact clone of the Hakko, has the same circuit diagram, same pc board layout and uses the same tips. It may actually be made by the same manufacturer (Chinese) Hakko uses. http://www.circuitspecialists.com/prod.itml/icOid/7307 73, Bill W4ZV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/829 - Release Date: 6/2/2007 5:26 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
It's also worth mention that Bill Gates father is among the best Intellectual Property attorneys in the country. Bill didn't have the legal bill when beginning his business that many start-ups face. Microsoft like Dolby Labs etc. is all about Intellectual Property. Pete kn6bi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:55 PM To: Elecraft Subject:Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans . That's the story I remember. Gates has been great at acquiring other peoples projects and turning them into gold..I'm not sure he's ever actually written a line of code! Doug W6JD -- Original message -- From: Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:54 AM, Fred (FL) wrote: And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was launched. The way I remember it, IBM decided they wanted a version of CP/M for their new Intel 8086-based system and went to Digital Research. Somehow the folks at DR managed to really annoy the folks from IBM. (I heard it that Gary Kildall's wife wouldn't deal with them because Gary was out-of-town.) So IBM turned to the small company that was supposed to provide the BASIC interpreter for the new PC: Microsoft. Bill Gates of Microsoft assured IBM that Microsoft had a replacement for CP/M-86 even though they really didn't. (Ah, vapor-ware has been with us for a LONG time.) Microsoft then quickly purchased the rights to a CP/M lookalike called QDOS. That became IBM's PC-DOS which Microsoft then renamed MS-DOS. The rest is history. 73 de Brian, WB6RQN Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com __ NOD32 2305 (20070601) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
I know I must be missing something. I see this thread going on and on. I note Eric hasn't jumped on it and ordered its termination, so it must have a relationship to Elecraft, or at least Ham Radio, but I am too dumb to see it. Is the K3 going to have MSDOS built in? Did Bill Gates design the K3 software? Is Bill Gates buying Elecraft? Inquiring minds want to know. -- --- _____ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke ( W )( 2 )( A )( G )( N ) http://w2agn.net \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ http://www.blurty.com/users/w2agn check out: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/QRPariahs/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Anyone using this solder station?
How flexible/malleable is the soldering iron cord on the CSI Product? Regards, Dick - KA5KKT/4 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Tippett Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 1:51 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Anyone using this solder station? KI4GGX: 4) Price $79.99 You should be able to find a good ESD soldering station for about $55. Check out Circuit Specialists, Contact East, and others. Below is a clone of the Hakko 936 for $34.95. I used one to build my K2, ATS-2 (SMD), ATS-3 (SMD), ZM-2 and various other things. Indeed it is an exact clone of the Hakko, has the same circuit diagram, same pc board layout and uses the same tips. It may actually be made by the same manufacturer (Chinese) Hakko uses. http://www.circuitspecialists.com/prod.itml/icOid/7307 73, Bill W4ZV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: Low output power on SSB after BW mod
Gregg, There should be no direct relationship between doing the bandwidth change and lowered SSB output. You may want to check for something that you inadvertently did. What are you using to measure the peak power output? What did this same instrument read before you installed the new capacitors? The best instrument I know of to check the peak power output is a 'scope. It can indicate the instantaneous RF voltage easily and it is easy to compare that level to a CW reference level. 'Peak indicating' wattmeters do have a time constant to indicate the peak and can be fooled by the audio waveform. In other words, they are not always correct when indicating the peak output of a SSB signal. Try increasing your compression to 3:1 or even 4:1 and see if that makes a difference. Lastly, put the K2 display in ALC and see if any bars illuminate on the right side of the bargraph - if even one bar lights, you are driving the K2 adequately with the mic. 73, Don W3FPR W6IZT wrote: Using an MH2 mic -Original Message- From: W6IZT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:33 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Low output power on SSB after BW mod I just performed the 2.4 KHz bandwidth mod. While the audio response is better the output power is only 80-85 watts on SSB on normal voice peaks with ssba set to 2 and ssbc set to 2. If I whistle loudly into the mic I can get 100 watts out. On cw the radio puts out 100w or more on all bands. This was not expected as the new filter should have less loss? Any ideas on how I can get the SSB output up to 100 watts Gregg W6IZT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Anyone using this solder station?
Regarding: http://www.circuitspecialists.com/prod.itml/icOid/7307 WC7S wrote: So, if I understand it, once again, and without fail, There are no Free Toys - desoldering pump, extra tips... or what ever. Well not exactly Dale... Includes one FREE replacement ceramic heating element ...and if you get your order up to $50 with extra tips, etc. you can choose from one of the following 3 freebies: http://www.circuitspecialists.com/level.itml/icOid/190 K7SVV wrote: A couple of nice changes to the iron from Circuit Specialists is the addition of a power-on light and they moved the on/off switch to the front. My 2004 vintage and had a front panel red LED which indicated power being applied to the tip (solid when warming up and then pulsing). It had the On/Off switch on the side. KA5KKT/4 wrote: How flexible/malleable is the soldering iron cord on the CSI Product? Quite flexible. It says YISHENG OFC AUDIO/VIDEO HIGH GRADE CABLE. 73, Bill W4ZV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: K2: ext battery suggestions?
I use external to keep it simple. Varta 12V 200mAh package NiMeHybrid 85 x 18 x 135 mm and 534g weight. KOK 3720 3-package 11,1V 3270mAh LitiumPolymer 65 x 18 x 100 mm and 203g weight. Special charger!! Benny OH9NB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
Bill Gates has written lots of code. He is (or at least was) a truly outstanding programmer. Years ago he was known to review code, find something he didn't like and call up the programmer and give 'em hell. MS Programmers have also been known to suddenly receive bonuses as stock options because Bill liked their code. The very highest status a programmer could hope to achieve was having been recognized by Bill in this way. Also, PC-DOS has always been on the market. In fact you can still buy a copy (version 8.0). It has always been maintained separately from MS-DOS since its inception. A significant portion of PC-DOS was (and still is) strictly blue-code. Bill bought QDOS for $40,000 cash and some vague promises about further deals. Many, many companies have looked back at their dealings with Bill and realized they've been had. BigTime. The dirty dealings with IBM are by far the worst thing on Bill's list of dirty tricks and double-crosses. 73, Doug -- K0DXV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the story I remember. Gates has been great at acquiring other peoples projects and turning them into gold..I'm not sure he's ever actually written a line of code! Doug W6JD -- Original message -- From: Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:54 AM, Fred (FL) wrote: And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was launched. The way I remember it, IBM decided they wanted a version of CP/M for their new Intel 8086-based system and went to Digital Research. Somehow the folks at DR managed to really annoy the folks from IBM. (I heard it that Gary Kildall's wife wouldn't deal with them because Gary was out-of-town.) So IBM turned to the small company that was supposed to provide the BASIC interpreter for the new PC: Microsoft. Bill Gates of Microsoft assured IBM that Microsoft had a replacement for CP/M-86 even though they really didn't. (Ah, vapor-ware has been with us for a LONG time.) Microsoft then quickly purchased the rights to a CP/M lookalike called QDOS. That became IBM's PC-DOS which Microsoft then renamed MS-DOS. The rest is history. 73 de Brian, WB6RQN Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, W2AGN wrote: I know I must be missing something. I see this thread going on and on. I note Eric hasn't jumped on it and ordered its termination, so it must have a relationship to Elecraft, or at least Ham Radio, but I am too dumb to see it. You need to open your horizons John Is the K3 going to have MSDOS built in? You may specify Windows or Linux Did Bill Gates design the K3 software? No, but he gets a royalty. Is Bill Gates buying Elecraft? Rumor has it that the deposits for the K3 will be used to nuy Microsoft. Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
Thom LaCosta wrote: On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, W2AGN wrote: I know I must be missing something. I see this thread going on and on. I note Eric hasn't jumped on it and ordered its termination, so it must have a relationship to Elecraft, or at least Ham Radio, but I am too dumb to see it. You need to open your horizons John Is the K3 going to have MSDOS built in? You may specify Windows or Linux Did Bill Gates design the K3 software? No, but he gets a royalty. Is Bill Gates buying Elecraft? Rumor has it that the deposits for the K3 will be used to nuy Microsoft. Thom,EIEIO I wasn't really complaining. I just am trying to figure out what is considered off-topic and what is not. It appears to be a perplexing puzzle on many email reflectors. I have determined that a topic will be quashed as off-topic IF: 1. It expresses an opinion contrary to that of the list owner/moderator. 2. It criticizes a Scared Cow such as ARRL, etc. 3. It upsets someone enough that they send complaints to the list owner/moderator, thereby causing him work. 4. It is initiated/continued by an individual who is viewed as a troublemaker. There must be others I haven't figured out yet. --- _____ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke ( W )( 2 )( A )( G )( N ) http://w2agn.net \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ http://www.blurty.com/users/w2agn Member screwed by QRP-ARCI! http://w2agn.net/noarci.html ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KD1JV on the AT
Hello, Last Thursday I caught up with Steve, KD1JV, on his 400 miles section trek of the Appalachian Trail. He did take out a 40 meter rig to operate from the trail when he could do so. A few weeks into hike section hike he decided to send the 40m rig back home. Steve said that after hiking all day he just wanted to rest when they made the shelter or hotel that they were staying in. Check out a picture of Steve I took at the Route 501 Shelter in PA. Go to www.wb3aal.com and click on the link to Steve's picture. He should be finishing up his section hike at the Delaware Water Gap in a few days. 72 and Thanks, Ron Polityka WB3AAL www.wb3aal.com www.n3epa.org/ K1 - SN 01011 K2 - SN 01392 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, W2AGN wrote: on many email reflectors. I have determined that a topic will be quashed as off-topic IF: 1. It expresses an opinion contrary to that of the list owner/moderator. 2. It criticizes a Scared Cow such as ARRL, etc. 3. It upsets someone enough that they send complaints to the list owner/moderator, thereby causing him work. 4. It is initiated/continued by an individual who is viewed as a troublemaker. The true Off-Topic post would satisfy ALL of the elements listed above. Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Was: Spilling the HF beans, now: Microsoft
Hi, I'm with W2AGN. Given that the interesting K3 information has died off and I'm not in the slightest bit interested in the history of Microsoft, it's time to suspend delivery for a few weeks. Regards, Mike VP8NO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
Unfortunately, for the customersw/patrons, Bill has continued screwing us all with imperfect and buggy operating systems! Too bad he doesn't improve and debug the old Windows systems instead of foisting newer and still buggy systems on us! To add to our misery, he has seen fit to invest his billions in India where he gets programmers cheaper. (The ones you can't understand on technical Help!) I have heard real horror stories about the Consumer version of VISTA! 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: Doug Person [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans . Bill Gates has written lots of code. He is (or at least was) a truly outstanding programmer. Years ago he was known to review code, find something he didn't like and call up the programmer and give 'em hell. MS Programmers have also been known to suddenly receive bonuses as stock options because Bill liked their code. The very highest status a programmer could hope to achieve was having been recognized by Bill in this way. Also, PC-DOS has always been on the market. In fact you can still buy a copy (version 8.0). It has always been maintained separately from MS-DOS since its inception. A significant portion of PC-DOS was (and still is) strictly blue-code. Bill bought QDOS for $40,000 cash and some vague promises about further deals. Many, many companies have looked back at their dealings with Bill and realized they've been had. BigTime. The dirty dealings with IBM are by far the worst thing on Bill's list of dirty tricks and double-crosses. 73, Doug -- K0DXV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the story I remember. Gates has been great at acquiring other peoples projects and turning them into gold..I'm not sure he's ever actually written a line of code! Doug W6JD -- Original message -- From: Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:54 AM, Fred (FL) wrote: And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was launched. The way I remember it, IBM decided they wanted a version of CP/M for their new Intel 8086-based system and went to Digital Research. Somehow the folks at DR managed to really annoy the folks from IBM. (I heard it that Gary Kildall's wife wouldn't deal with them because Gary was out-of-town.) So IBM turned to the small company that was supposed to provide the BASIC interpreter for the new PC: Microsoft. Bill Gates of Microsoft assured IBM that Microsoft had a replacement for CP/M-86 even though they really didn't. (Ah, vapor-ware has been with us for a LONG time.) Microsoft then quickly purchased the rights to a CP/M lookalike called QDOS. That became IBM's PC-DOS which Microsoft then renamed MS-DOS. The rest is history. 73 de Brian, WB6RQN Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.6/828 - Release Date: 6/1/2007 11:22 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Anyone using this solder station?
For what it's worth, I'd just like to put in another plug for the Hakko 936. The first time I used it, it was a near-religious experience. I'd rather solder than just about anything else in the world now :) -- 73, Mike, KC0KBC Yaesu FT-857D, FT-8800R, VX-7RB Elecraft KX1 #1819 (awaiting birth), XG2 -- Original message -- From: Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob, When you can get a Hakko 936 for only a couple bucks more, I would not bother with that one. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] spectrogram for mac or linux?
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Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
You mean beside their decision to integrate the browser with the operating system Bad Bill, no cookie... David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW K2 #5982 Doug Person wrote: Bill Gates has written lots of code. He is (or at least was) a truly outstanding programmer. Years ago he was known to review code, find something he didn't like and call up the programmer and give 'em hell. MS Programmers have also been known to suddenly receive bonuses as stock options because Bill liked their code. The very highest status a programmer could hope to achieve was having been recognized by Bill in this way. Also, PC-DOS has always been on the market. In fact you can still buy a copy (version 8.0). It has always been maintained separately from MS-DOS since its inception. A significant portion of PC-DOS was (and still is) strictly blue-code. Bill bought QDOS for $40,000 cash and some vague promises about further deals. Many, many companies have looked back at their dealings with Bill and realized they've been had. BigTime. The dirty dealings with IBM are by far the worst thing on Bill's list of dirty tricks and double-crosses. 73, Doug -- K0DXV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the story I remember. Gates has been great at acquiring other peoples projects and turning them into gold..I'm not sure he's ever actually written a line of code! Doug W6JD -- Original message -- From: Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:54 AM, Fred (FL) wrote: And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was launched. The way I remember it, IBM decided they wanted a version of CP/M for their new Intel 8086-based system and went to Digital Research. Somehow the folks at DR managed to really annoy the folks from IBM. (I heard it that Gary Kildall's wife wouldn't deal with them because Gary was out-of-town.) So IBM turned to the small company that was supposed to provide the BASIC interpreter for the new PC: Microsoft. Bill Gates of Microsoft assured IBM that Microsoft had a replacement for CP/M-86 even though they really didn't. (Ah, vapor-ware has been with us for a LONG time.) Microsoft then quickly purchased the rights to a CP/M lookalike called QDOS. That became IBM's PC-DOS which Microsoft then renamed MS-DOS. The rest is history. 73 de Brian, WB6RQN Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
I wasn't really complaining. I just am trying to figure out what is considered off-topic and what is not. It appears to be a perplexing puzzle on many email reflectors. I have determined that a topic will be quashed as off-topic IF: ... No need to be so cynical. My guess (and it is just a guess) is that Eric actually spends some time away from the mail list, and he hasn't seen this thread yet. I expect it will be put back on topic, or ended in a day or two. Mark AD5SS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
Mark Bayern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (06/03/2007 22:18) No need to be so cynical. My guess (and it is just a guess) is that Eric actually spends some time away from the mail list, and he hasn't seen this thread yet. I expect it will be put back on topic, or ended in a day or two. Mark AD5SS Cynical ? Moi? Not at all. Just a realist. John - W2AGN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
So how many people on this reflector haven't posted to this thread? -- W2CVZ, Michael K1#2343 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
So how many people on this reflector haven't posted to this thread? Most. 30 posts 2000 members. But at last: A hot, off-topic thread that I neither started nor threw gasoline on. :-) Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for June 3rd 4th, 2007
Good Evening, Two very good nets this evening. Twenty meters was less noisy than forty but that is to be expected with the seasonal changes. A few new folks checked in on forty. Thank you and welcome to the net! I know we missed a few stations who were beneath the noise on both nets. For that I am sorry. Hopefully next week will bring better propagation allowing us to greet you. The weather reports from across the land were heartening. Looks like the chills of winter are finally out of our bones. During the second net it was trying to reach 80 degrees F at my operating position. Just enough sweat to make my arm stick to the table but not enough to allow it to slide. That adds staccato to my sending :( I may need a towel under my arm soon. But, the ten day outlook shows showers and cool are in my future. Ah, Oregon weather! On the way to Seaside yesterday we got close to the coast before the fog dimmed the sky. On the way home it was even thicker but before we reached the crest of the Coast Range we broke through into sunshine which held over the Willamette Valley. On to the lists = On 14050 kHz at 2300z: N0SS - Tom - MO - K2 - 008 NE5DL - David - TX - K2 - 2887 KL7CW - Rick - AK - KX1 - 798 W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767 K1THP - Dave - CT - K2 - 3942 N3AO - Carter - VA - K2 - 678 WB3AAL - Ron - PA - K2 - 1392 K2HYD - Ray - NC - KX1 - 608 AK2B - Tom - NY - K2 - 4482 K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422 K1EV - Bill - CT - K2 - 2152 QNI #85 N7KRT - Jeff - NV - K2 - 5471QNI #10! K4GT - Jim - GA - K2 - 2015 NE5DL - David - TX - K2 - 2887 QNI #45!!! WA7BOC - Roger - WA - K2 - 755 AB9V - Mike - IN - K2 - 3993 N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866 On 7045 kHz at 0200z: N0SS - Tom - MO - K2 - 008 K1THP - Dave - CT - K2 - 3942 W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767 N9IV - Russ - IN - K2 - 4650 KC0VKN - Joe - IA - K2 - 4912 N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866 VE3XL - Ric - ON - K1 - 968 KR4OW - Dave - FL - K2 - 4320 W6ZH - Pete - CA - K2 - 5138 QNI #50 K7KHC - Kevin - WA - ? K1THP - Dave - CT - K2 - 3942 KA5OAI - Sam - TX - K2 - 2481 WA7BOC - Roger - WA - K2 - 755 As ever, if there are any adjustments necessary to the above lists please email me the corrections or fills. Another week awaits us. Propagation can only get better barring the seasonal variations we must endure. I read an article in Sky Telescope last week about solar predictions. How very odd, there were two predictions cited; one was for the strongest solar cycle on record while the other stated this would be amoung the weakest ever. The only way we will know which prediction is correct is to keep getting on the air and testing conditions. Much like predicting Oregon weather :) I'll take my weather rock any day of the week over what the local weather folks have to say. I have heard a new twist though: tie the weather rock to a tree so you can tell wind speed and direction. However, that being stated I would have to have replaced last year's rock with a new one since the tree may not remain on my property let alone the rock!!! But, as they say, the only thing constant is change. May you live in interesting times said one fortune cookie :) Take care all and I will see you next week, 73, Kevin. KD5ONS (Net Control Operator 5th Class) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] dynamic range questions
Geoff, thank you very much for the response. I am posting to the list as others may find your comments helpful. Mike W5FTD Mike, A couple of comments before I crash - it is past 3 am here!! IMD for the K3 (Orion, FTxxx, etc) refers to spurious signals produced by operation of a stage (or stages) in the nonlinear portion of its transfer curve (or whatever it's called)? Yes, and the test result should specify which spurious products e.g. 3rd Order. The measurement ground rules imply two signals: one at fc and the other at fc+x, where x is 20khz, 10khz, ... ? This is where the numbers game starts! A proper test has both signals in the passband along with the products, but the great majority of commercial amateur receivers would not do too well. So with great reluctance on the part of ARRL the spacing x has been gradually decreased with both signals outside of the passband so that the product being measured is within the passband. The parameter usually being determined is referred to as the two tone dynamic range and indicates the point at which third order signals resulting from 2fc-(fc+x) and 2(fc+x)-fc begin to appear in the signal path? This would be the 3rd Order dynamic range. The dynamic range is sometimes measured from the noise floor but not always. This is because some amplifiers / mixers do not behave properly because the level of the 3rd Order products over some part of the allowed input level range does not increase at the rate of 3db for every 1db increase in the level of the input signals. fc and fc+x are chosen to put (at least one of) the third order signals in the IF passband? Yes. I assume that receiver circuit characteristics before the roofing filters (or IF bandpass filter) essentially determine the dynamic range. However, dynamic range figures always seem to degrade for small separations of fc and fc+x. Is this because fc and/or fc+x are falling within the IF passband and are producing spurious signals in the stages following the roofing filters? Yes, and this is something that many designers seem to forget. For the case of strong signals in the IF passband, are the dynamic range tests run with the AGC disabled? In actual operation, wouldn't the AGC reduce signal levels below the point where distortion products were being generated (in the stages following the roofing filters)? I believe that most if not all 3rd Order dynamic range tests on amateur receivers are run with the AGC disabled, but don't quote me! In actual operation the IMD generated by some types of AGC controlled amplifier can get worse as AGC is applied. It is up to the designer to do his job properly! The two tone test is only a proxy for the real world. In actual operation, if any signal (or signals) in the RF passband or mixer passband exceeds the receiver dynamic range, will ALL of the signals in the passband begin contributing third order products? Yes, how much will depend on individual levels and of course the receiver design. Is the magnitude of the third order distortion products a function of the degree of the nonlinearity? Can different receiver models with the same dynamic range numbers (operating under the same conditions) differ considerably in the signal strength of junk signals? Yes is the short answer. This is one good reason why 3rd Order dynamic range tests should be done with both signals in the passband which can expose problems which might exist after the IF filter in model A but not in model B. IMD generated by IF filters can be a problem which might not be fully exposed if the test signals are widely spaced. Two major issues are of concern here (1) the effect of the filter on the dynamic range of the driving stage and (2) the generation of IMD products within the filter which are passed on to the following IF cascade. When test results are phase noise limited, what is going on? Is the phase noise acting simply as RF noise that masks the spurious signals being observed? Or is it acting as a third signal that mixes with fc and fc+x and causes the production of third order products at a lower signal level than fc and fc+x would alone? Phase noise from a noisy LO has the effect of lifting the noise floor and is involved in reciprocal mixing. Phase Noise Limited means that the useful performance of the receiver has been compromised by LO noise, for example the 3rd Order dynamic range is reduced or limited by phase noise because there is less headroom between the increased noise floor and the point where the receiver runs out of steam. Reciprocal mixing takes place when the LO phase noise mixes with an unwanted signal to produce a noise IF signal which could mask weak real signals - an unwanted LO if you like. I hope that this helps a little. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the
Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .....
This is the unfortunate result of too many folks waiting too long for some new scrap of information about their new K3 radios. Off topic posts and even worse, people choosing up sides over Bill Gates. Man, that's boredom. Possibly also mixed with a liberal dose of new radio anxiety. Please Eric, Wayne, or even Lisa at this point, throw us a bone or some tasty morsel before these posts deteriorate any further. I for one promise to be grateful and not to make any extreme off topic posts for at least a day or two. Thanks! ;-) To: Mark Bayern [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans . From: W2AGN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 23:08:03 -0300 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Delivered-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-to: elecraft@mailman.qth.net In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-archive: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft List-help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-id: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft.mailman.qth.net List-post: mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net List-subscribe: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-unsubscribe: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Bayern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (06/03/2007 22:18) No need to be so cynical. My guess (and it is just a guess) is that Eric actually spends some time away from the mail list, and he hasn't seen this thread yet. I expect it will be put back on topic, or ended in a day or two. Mark AD5SS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2: ext battery suggestions?
I run the entire hamshack on 4 EV-1 pullouts and 3-55W Solar panels. I estimate the batteries will run two rigs and the computers for about 2-3 weeks if I include the TiVo. Al WA6VNN ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Soldering Stations??
I'm hoping to get a Hakko 936 (or it's clone) very soon and wondering what would be the best tip to order for SMT work? I'll be building the SoftRock Lite kit for use with my K3 so have decided it's time to upgrade the soldering tools. I've managed a small SMT project for my K2 using my old and trusty Weller but now want something better. I know quite a few in this group use the Hakko so I would appreciate some advice on iron tip sizes for SMT as well as the normal sizes. 73, Deni F5VJC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Soldering Stations??
I'm hoping to get a Hakko 936 (or it's clone) very soon and wondering what would be the best tip to order for SMT work? I'll be building the SoftRock Lite kit for use with my K3 so have decided it's time to upgrade the soldering tools. I've managed a small SMT project for my K2 using my old and trusty Weller but now want something better. I know quite a few in this group use the Hakko so I would appreciate some advice on iron tip sizes for SMT as well as the normal sizes. Thanks. 73, Deni F5VJC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Test
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[Elecraft] Re: K2: ext battery suggestions?
Correction: Ah level for 1st alternative was Varta 12V _ *3000mAh*_ package NiMeHybrid 85 x 18 x 135 mm and 534g weight. Benny OH9NB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] elecraft pocket knife..
Here is my tale of woe.. When I bought my KX-1, Elecraft sent me a little engraved swiss-army style pocket knife, about 2 1/2 or 3 inches long. I gave that knife to my boy Patrick. Pat is now 10 and loved that knife, always ready to whip it out and solve any problem. Tonight he lost it at a park he was playing at, and is absolutley crushed that he lost something that his Dad gave him. If any of you have one of these knives you would be willing to part with at a reasonable price, I would be ever so welcome. Drop me a line off-list.. 73 de Tim KD7JZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Stations??
Deni, If you should end up with a Hakko 936, be sure to check out the Power/On LED modification at http://www.n0ss.net/hakko_936_on-off_led_mod_v3.pdf. It is a simple mod that is well worth your time. John [K7SVV] - Original Message - From: Deni, F5VJC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:00 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Soldering Stations?? I'm hoping to get a Hakko 936 (or it's clone) very soon and wondering what would be the best tip to order for SMT work? I'll be building the SoftRock Lite kit for use with my K3 so have decided it's time to upgrade the soldering tools. I've managed a small SMT project for my K2 using my old and trusty Weller but now want something better. I know quite a few in this group use the Hakko so I would appreciate some advice on iron tip sizes for SMT as well as the normal sizes. 73, Deni F5VJC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/829 - Release Date: 6/2/2007 5:26 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 Internal Mic Adaptor First Mechanical Prototype Photos
We have designed another Rework Eliminator(TM) brand aftermarket K2 accessory. Our latest project is an assembly consisting of two tiny four-layer PCBs that makes it super easy to reconfigure the K2 for any of the mic pin-outs described in the KSB2 manual. To see photos of our first of two mechanical prototypes and learn all about this new accessory, please start with the latest entry on the News Site Updates page of our website at http://www.unpcbs.com/news/ --- - - - --- We will begin accepting orders with payment in about a week at a retail price of around $19.10 plus applicable shipping and handling. NOTE! So far there only seems to about a third the demand we will require to offer this kit at a reasonable price. If we receive 85 pre-paid orders before June 30th, then we will go to production. Otherwise, we will cancel this project and issue refunds to all who ordered it. If we do go to production, then orders will begin shipping the second week of August. 73, Gary KI4GGX K2 #4067 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
