Re: [Elecraft] Ham software
On Nov 9, 2007 6:55 PM, Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 09 November 2007 13:33:56 Julian G4ILO wrote: > > > But that doesn't invalidate the > > principle that we should be more willing to pay for software. > > [snip] > > > I'm > > writing my soon to be K3 control program in Lazarus, an open source > > clone of Delphi. > > Did you pay for Lazarus? Not in monetary terms, though as it's an open source project I can contribute in other ways. But you miss the point. Lazarus is a better choice than professional development for amateur programmers for a number of reasons it is not appropriate to go into here. The price tag is almost immaterial (though it's unfortunately true that products like Delphi now cost hundreds of dollars putting them beyond the reach of a hobbyist.) If people had just said "try HRD, it's a great program" I would not have seen anything to object to. But when people recommend it, they always make a big deal out of it being free, like that's the most important consideration. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mine's on it's way!
It's very good to hear that more K3s are on their way. Big congrats to you people. For all of us still waiting for the personal white smoke from Aptos... I ordered a K3 kit (prepaid) with most of the goodies by fax within a few hours of Elecraft's announcement posting and am still awaiting the shortly before shipping confirmation mail. I did ask Elecraft not to deliver mine during the last month, because I was away for most of October. vy 73 de toby -- DD5FZ (ex 4n6fz, dj7mgq, dg5mgq, dd5fz) K2/10 #885 K2/100 #3248 K3/100 #??? (196 days and counting) DOK C12, BCC, DL-QRP-AG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] New List Member with T1 Questions
Hello, everybody! I just joined this list and have REALLY been looking at the T1 Autotuner. Before I purchase one, I have some questions about using the T1 autotuner with my QRP gear. I have three QRP rigs - SW30+, HW-8, and a 20M rig made by A&A Engineering (Gary Breed K9AY). I have a SuperAntenna MP-1 and several end-fed wires cut for 15M, 20M, 30M, and 40M. Will I need a balun for the end-fed wires? Will the T1 work with the SuperAntenna MP1? Thanks for your help! 73, Steve Ponder N5WBI Houston TX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 to MacLogger Connect?
Jack, i would suggest you using ZTerm to make a step-by-step test. ZTerm is a Terminal Program for the Mac like Hyperterm for Windows. The download is free. 1. Check Keyspan Driver and Hardware: - Disable Hardware Handshake and local echo in ZTerm. Be sure to choose the correct serial port. - Shorten Pin 2 + 3 on the serial connector of the Keyspan Adapter. - If you type into the Terminal you see the characters echoing when the Pin 2+3 are shortened, otherwise you have a Problem with the Keyspan Driver or Hardware. 2. Check connection to K2: Follow the Section "Serial Interface Test" in the KIO2 Manual. Just use ZTerm instead of Hyperterm. If this works, the problem should be within Maclogger. Unfortunately i don´t know anything about Maclogger. good luck, Wil / OE9WLJ On 08.11.2007, at 05:44, Jack Shrawder wrote: While waiting for your K3s, I wonder if anyone could help with a K2 to MacLogger connect problem? My K2, 3256 refuses to connect to my MacLogger program. About a month ago a connection problem surfaced one day after several years of reliable functioning. The problem symptoms are: When "Radio VFO" box is checked, ML reports Not Responding and Radio… No Data. The system is: K2 to Keyspan USA-49WLC serial to USB, into a MacBook Pro running 10.4.10 and MacLogger 4.3.2.b16 First, repair idea was to check in the K2 menu to ensure the Port is "On"; it was. Then, attempted to fix via the following; downloaded the latest Keyspan driver (2.4), tried different ports in the Keyspan converter, tried different radio setup parameters for the KIO2. Checked K2 operation with the KAT100 tuner which runs off the KIO2 interconnect cable, (KAT100 seems to function normally with the KAT100). Not sure if this a meaningful test of KIO2 or not. Checked KIO2 plugs for good solder joints and for opens or shorts at each plug. Next, tried to a MacLogger connection with my K2 via an older PowerBook G4 with MacLogger 4.3.2 and latest Keyspan driver 2.4 with same "no go" results. In desperation, replaced USB cable from computer to Keyspan converter--no change. Can anyone give me anymore tests or things to try to solve this problem. I'm stumped at this point. Thanks for any ideas, Jack H. Shrawder, KT6JS So Lake Tahoe, CA "Success is the Only Option" ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT on the way
Okay...so the end of April is shipping now. What can we learn? Ken's invoice is 47389. My invoice (May 18th) is 48130. Any guesses how many of those invoices are for K3's? So for sure, there were NOT more than 741 K3's ordered between Ken's of April 29 and mind of May 18. Not much information, is it? LOL I'm sure the Dayton bolus is going to be a block-buster (prbly more than Visalia) and that those three days will take a long time to "get out the door." Glad that I ordered mine "early" at Dayton (morning of the 18th). Now let's just hope that Eric and Wayne really did keep them in strict "when ordered" sequence. I sure hope they do NOT go alphabetically. de Doug KR2Q PS...Damn! I forgot about FDIM :-( ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT on the way
Where are you guy's getting you invoice number from? Mine ordered 2-May, is order # 1963-5357-1884 I haven't seen a email or anything with an 'invoice' number On 10/11/07 11:15, "DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > Okay...so the end of April is shipping now. What can we learn? > > Ken's invoice is 47389. My invoice (May 18th) is 48130. Any guesses > how many of those invoices are for K3's? > > So for sure, there were NOT more than 741 K3's ordered between Ken's > of April 29 and mind of May 18. Not much information, is it? > de Doug KR2Q -- Not all those that wander are lost. -J.R.R. Tolkien, novelist and philologist (1892-1973) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT shipped
Uh oh! I assumed that the invoice numbers were issued to all. From David's comments, I guess not. Back into the darkness. de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT on the way
My order number from July 16th is 1974-3920-2556 so there must be some 1,085,630,000 K3s ordered between your order and mine! I don't think I'll be getting mine by Christmassigh...and I was hoping for a three digit serial number...I can hear the QSOs now... UR RST 599 - NAME IS GOODY - RIG HR IS K3 SN 1275620967 ? 1275620967 QSL? :-) But seriously, it would be nice to see on the website what invoice/order date is currently shipping. David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Where are you guy's getting you invoice number from? Mine ordered 2-May, is order # 1963-5357-1884 I haven't seen a email or anything with an 'invoice' number On 10/11/07 11:15, "DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: -- Blog: http://thek3ngreport.blogspot.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT shipped - be still my beating heart
I looked in my K3 orders folder and no invoice mail - just loads of order confirmed as I add more bits to it (filters, a mini module etc). I didn't realise I had filed away the invoice in the other K3 folder! My invoice number is 47504, dated 2-May Thanks for the reminder Doug I have some mini modules on order that can ship with K3, but no invoice yet). So if Ken's invoice is 47389 (what date?), and mine is 47504 = that's 115 K3s (max between the dates). Guessing how progress is going like this is very hit and miss :-( On 10/11/07 11:54, "DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > Uh oh! I assumed that the invoice numbers were issued to all. From > David's comments, I guess not. -- What is the purpose of the giant sequoia tree? The purpose of the giant sequoia tree is to provide shade for the tiny titmouse. -Edward Abbey, naturalist and author (1927-1989) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT on the way
At 07:03 AM 11/10/2007, Goody K3NG wrote: My order number from July 16th is 1974-3920-2556 so there must be some 1,085,630,000 K3s ordered between your order and mine! I don't think I'll be getting mine by Christmassigh...and I was hoping for a three digit serial number...I can hear the QSOs now... UR RST 599 - NAME IS GOODY - RIG HR IS K3 SN 1275620967 ? 1275620967 QSL? Perhaps the feeling is that the actual number of orders and the type radio ordered and the number of orders shipped is seen competitive information, and thus will be masked as much as possible. The whole procedure may be an example of OO (Order Obfuscation). I'm waiting for the new Guess your Ship Date contest. :-) But seriously, it would be nice to see on the website what invoice/order date is currently shipping. Na, you're kidding. 73, Thom - k3hrn Godot, the drama of non-communication David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Where are you guy's getting you invoice number from? Mine ordered 2-May, is order # 1963-5357-1884 I haven't seen a email or anything with an 'invoice' number On 10/11/07 11:15, "DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: -- Blog: http://thek3ngreport.blogspot.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT on the way
On Nov 10, 2007 11:37 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where are you guy's getting you invoice number from? > Mine ordered 2-May, is order # 1963-5357-1884 > I haven't seen a email or anything with an 'invoice' number My confirmation number for an order placed at the weekend 3/4 May and confirmed 5 May is 1963-9764-3349. So it looks like every ham on the planet ordered one that weekend. :) My guess is that the numbers are generated by the order taking system based on the time of submission and are not consecutive! But at least you should get yours before I get mine. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT shipped - be still my beating heart
I am waiting patiently and wasn't going to add to the comments, but now I am getting worried. 14 May I had order confirmation 1965-2361-4629. Paid half including the sub rx and my credit card debited. Nothing else since and definitely no 5 digit number on the order confirmation. I thought I was in the first production run and should therefore be shipping before 29 November, (since the 2nd run is due to commence 30 November, which is a Friday.) I am £700 lighter and thoroughly confused. Chris Burbanks G3SJJ David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: I looked in my K3 orders folder and no invoice mail - just loads of order confirmed as I add more bits to it (filters, a mini module etc). I didn't realise I had filed away the invoice in the other K3 folder! My invoice number is 47504, dated 2-May Thanks for the reminder Doug I have some mini modules on order that can ship with K3, but no invoice yet). So if Ken's invoice is 47389 (what date?), and mine is 47504 = that's 115 K3s (max between the dates). Guessing how progress is going like this is very hit and miss :-( On 10/11/07 11:54, "DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: Uh oh! I assumed that the invoice numbers were issued to all. From David's comments, I guess not. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: K3: mine is NOT shipped - be still my beating heart
My invoice is #47426 for a K3/100 kit order placed 30th April, however the invoice wasn't generated until 9th July - someone "forgot". I have been told Sales will be in touch this coming week... 73 Dave, G4AON ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT on the way
I haven't ordered my K3 yet (still saving up my pennies), but I follow every bit of info here religiously. I really don't understand this competitive sensitivity to numbers of K3s ordered/shipped and who's haven't shipped yet. Dave Benson (Smallwonder Labs) has for a long time listed every order not yet shipped on his website - by name and order date. He does this even though he may be way behind in shipping. It takes some time, but if Dave can do it (I think he's pretty much a one-man operation), I would think Elecraft could. Perhaps they could do it by this recently discovered "invoice number" if that is something everyone gets when they order??? Would save a lot of anxiety among "the natives," and reduce traffic here. 73, Randy, KS4L Thom LaCosta wrote: Perhaps the feeling is that the actual number of orders and the type radio ordered and the number of orders shipped is seen competitive information, and thus will be masked as much as possible. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT shipped - be still my beating heart
I paid all my cost up front, maybe that's why I got the invoice. Can I suggest that we take this thread of list, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm conscious of the fact that discussing it here annoys those who want to talk about other kinds of 'K's and does nothing to help with Wayne and Eric's mail load or hastens shipment - it ships when it ships. Also of course, speculation on shipments by using order/invoice numbers is probably 'idle'. On 10/11/07 12:32, "G3SJJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > I am waiting patiently and wasn't going to add to the comments, but now > I am getting worried. 14 May I had order confirmation 1965-2361-4629. > Paid half including the sub rx and my credit card debited. Nothing else > since and definitely no 5 digit number on the order confirmation. I > thought I was in the first production run and should therefore be > shipping before 29 November, (since the 2nd run is due to commence 30 > November, which is a Friday.) I am £700 lighter and thoroughly confused. > > Chris Burbanks G3SJJ >> My invoice number is 47504, dated 2-May -- One can pay back the loan of gold, but one dies forever in debt to those who are kind. -Malayan Proverb ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT shipped - be still my beating heart
At 07:55 AM 11/10/2007, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: I paid all my cost up front, maybe that's why I got the invoice. Can I suggest that we take this thread of list, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] And one could also discuss it at either http://www.zerobeat.net/smf/index.php/topic,24.0.html or http://www.zerobeat.net/smf/index.php/topic,73.0.html 73, Thom Waiting for the ship to land http://www.afa.org/magazine/1991/0191cargo.asp ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT shipped - be still my beating heart
Yes, sorry Thom - should have thought of the forurm - your right, discussing it at http://www.zerobeat.net/smf/index.php/topic,73.0.html Is better. That is unless lots of Elecrafters want to continue to fill up this reflectors mail archive! On 10/11/07 13:11, "Thom LaCosta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > At 07:55 AM 11/10/2007, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: >> I paid all my cost up front, maybe that's why I got the invoice. >> Can I suggest that we take this thread of list, to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > And one could also discuss it at either > http://www.zerobeat.net/smf/index.php/topic,24.0.html > or > http://www.zerobeat.net/smf/index.php/topic,73.0.html > > 73, > Thom > Waiting for the ship to land > http://www.afa.org/magazine/1991/0191cargo.asp -- No sensible decision can be made any longer without taking into account not only the world as it is, but the world as it will be. -Isaac Asimov, scientist and writer (1920-1992) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Ham software
I also do professional programming, although I consider myself an engineer. I have written a number of free ham programs as well. My programs variously link to and support TRX-Manager, HRD, DXLabs Suite and N1MM. These are all excellent programs, and all are free except TRX-Manager, which is not expensive. I tend to use TRX-Manager for regular remote control operations, because I started out with it many, many years ago, but I like aspects of all these programs for specific needs. Laurent, Simon, Dave and Tom are all great guys and provide first rate support for their programs. Most of them have K3s on order, and probably monitor this reflector (Simon posts here regularly). I would simply try them all and pick the one you like best, whether it's free or not. For remote control, I think you'll find TRX and HRD the best. You may also want to visit my website for some free programs of use for remote control, www.telepostinc.com. 73, Larry N8LP Julian G4ILO wrote: > I don't have any axe to grind for any of the programs mentioned, and > in fact use none of them, but I have to take issue with the notion > that HRD is great just because it's free. I believe that the range and > quality of software available to hams is limited because of their > reluctance to pay for it, and that we are ultimately the poorer for it First, I'm a professional programmer. I've paid good money for some ham (and other) software, and it has turned out to be junk. Much ham software is written by hams who are not professional programmers, and it shows. There is a big difference in writing a program that is useful to you, and one that will work properly in multiple environments, has a polished interface, a balanced feature set, etc. Unfortunately, even if hams were more willing to pay for software, the market is small. The cost of professional programming is high, so that means that the per-unit cost of good ham software would need to be quite high for the publisher to make a profit. Do you want to pay $500 for a rig control program? I didn't think so. That's why we shouldn't expect to find much good ham software for sale. On the other hand, there is the author of HRD who is willing to provide a world-class program as a labor of love. We are very lucky. There are a few others that have decent shareware or low-cost programs. But they are not going to make a living that way. Another approach that works is the open-source model, which has given us the N1MM contest logging program. A little clunky, written in VB, it's nevertheless one of the best programs of its genre. And it is free too. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT on the way
Amazingly enough, this exact waiting game is played out for those who purchase the MINI Cooper automobile. Each purchaser picks his options online, build is overseas, and the shipment is tracked across the pond as it approaches the USA. Some MINI owners actually take pictures of 'their ship' containing 'their car' crossing he bar as it comes into harbor! And then travel to the distribution center to see if they can spot it behind a cyclone fence... If that's car crazy, then this is rabid radio! 73 John K7FD Julian G4ILO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 10, 2007 11:37 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where are you guy's getting you invoice number from? > > Mine ordered 2-May, is order # 1963-5357-1884 > > I haven't seen a email or anything with an 'invoice' number > > My confirmation number for an order placed at the weekend 3/4 May and > confirmed 5 May is 1963-9764-3349. So it looks like every ham on the > planet ordered one that weekend. :) My guess is that the numbers are > generated by the order taking system based on the time of submission > and are not consecutive! But at least you should get yours before I > get mine. > -- > Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT on the way
At 09:42 AM 11/10/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some MINI owners actually take pictures of 'their ship' containing 'their car' crossing he bar as it comes into harbor! And then travel to the distribution center to see if they can spot it behind a cyclone fence... And who will be the first to post the picture of the UPS driver delivering their K3? If that's car crazy, then this is rabid radio! Nice line...can I use it? 73, Thom - k3hrn ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: OMG - mass mania
Holy cow... My originating post about "mine is NOT on the way" was supposed to be funnyso we could see the humor here. Next time I'll be more careful. LOL de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT on the way
Sure! HIHI... 73 John K7FD, frothing at the mouth... Thom LaCosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 09:42 AM 11/10/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Some MINI owners actually take pictures of 'their ship' containing > > 'their car' crossing he bar as it comes into harbor! And then > > travel to the distribution center to see if they can spot it behind > > a cyclone fence... > > And who will be the first to post the picture of the UPS driver > delivering their K3? > > > >If that's car crazy, then this is rabid radio! > > Nice line...can I use it? > > 73, > Thom - k3hrn > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT on the way
Sorry I did not explain in the last email. I hit send too early. The 12 digit number used on the invoice is probably related to your credit card with 4 digits missing. I could be wrong but I have seen this before on invoices So beware Rowland G4APO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] On watching order numbers
Ken's invoice is 47389. My invoice (May 18th) is 48130. Any guesses how many of those invoices are for K3's? I'd not considered that there were likely other (non-K3 items) ordered in a given period, so watching order numbers likely tells us little. So for sure, there were NOT more than 741 K3's ordered between Ken's of April 29 and mine of May 18. Not much information, is it? Oh really? I'd say there were quite likely MORE than that. A commonly-hear RUMOR says that there were over 700 sold at Dayton alone. There was a line at the order desk all the time they were taking orders. My guess is that there's not much to be gained from watching serial numbers as an indication of anything. For example, isn't SN 666 already out there ... because the buyer has a K1 numbered 666? I have no problem with this ... it's just an observation. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Wasn't it SN 66, not 666
My error ... I think it is SN 66, NOT 666. Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT on the way
No, it's nothing like my CC number - and if they did that, all there order numbers from me would be the same! I think we should end this thread here, before Eric gets fed up with it :-) On 10/11/07 14:56, "Rowland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > Sorry I did not explain in the last email. I hit send too early. > The 12 digit number used on the invoice is probably related to your > credit card with 4 digits missing. > I could be wrong but I have seen this before on invoices > So beware > Rowland G4APO -- Black holes are where God divided by zero. -Steven Wright, comedian (1955-) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: OMG - mass mania
The K3 wiki has roughly 2800 hits and the serial number page has about 1800. At the present time it appears the most interest in the K3 pertains to when and how many of them leave Aptos. ;-) Eric and Wayne are so coy. Cometitive information. !!! My own view (for what it's worth not much) is that K3 has no competitors for price or performance and supplies are greatly limited. I will likely be this way for some time to come. Indeed the Mini-Cooper of HF transceivers. The K3 is bound to retain a special and unique status in all of amateur radio, at least until the first MotoMusen (YotoRola?) comes out. ;-) http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Wiki_at_ZeroBeat.NET [Elecraft] K3: OMG - mass mania Holy cow... My originating post about "mine is NOT on the way" was supposed to be funnyso we could see the humor here. Next time I'll be more careful. LOL de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: OMG - mass mania
At 10:50 AM 11/10/2007, Don Rasmussen wrote: Eric and Wayne are so coy. Cometitive information. !!! I'm not entirely sure that coy is the best word to use >:-o 73, Thom - k3hrn Of course the advantage to the late deleivery is that the other half of the payment is making interest for me...not someone else. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: OMG - mass mania
Hello Yoto ! On 10/11/07 15:50, "Don Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > The K3 is bound to retain a special and unique status > in all of amateur radio, at least until the first > MotoMusen (YotoRola?) comes out. ;-) -- Write the bad things that are done to you in the sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble. -Arabian wisdom ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New List Member with T1 Questions
Hi Steve You will enjoy using the T1. It works best if not feed an endfed half wave. Just how long are your wire antennas? Here I use mine to feed my top loaded vertical on 160m. It also works nicely loading the same vertical as a nearly halfwave top loaded vertical on 80m. I operate it remotely at the base of the vertical, using a relay to provide the TUNE closure. Good luck and 73 Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: "Steve Ponder, N5WBI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 2:18 AM Subject: [Elecraft] New List Member with T1 Questions > Hello, everybody! I just joined this list and have > REALLY been looking at the T1 Autotuner. > > Before I purchase one, I have some questions about > using the T1 autotuner with my QRP gear. > > I have three QRP rigs - SW30+, HW-8, and a 20M rig > made by A&A Engineering (Gary Breed K9AY). > > I have a SuperAntenna MP-1 and several end-fed wires > cut for 15M, 20M, 30M, and 40M. > > Will I need a balun for the end-fed wires? > > Will the T1 work with the SuperAntenna MP1? > > Thanks for your help! > > 73, > > Steve Ponder N5WBI > Houston TX > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT on the way
That's correct. I forgot about Dave Benson's method. And I'm sure Lisa could fit that in to her daily schedule. I mean, she can't be that busy...right? ;-) Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Moore Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 6:47 AM To: Elecraft List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT on the way I haven't ordered my K3 yet (still saving up my pennies), but I follow every bit of info here religiously. I really don't understand this competitive sensitivity to numbers of K3s ordered/shipped and who's haven't shipped yet. Dave Benson (Smallwonder Labs) has for a long time listed every order not yet shipped on his website - by name and order date. He does this even though he may be way behind in shipping. It takes some time, but if Dave can do it (I think he's pretty much a one-man operation), I would think Elecraft could. Perhaps they could do it by this recently discovered "invoice number" if that is something everyone gets when they order??? Would save a lot of anxiety among "the natives," and reduce traffic here. 73, Randy, KS4L Thom LaCosta wrote: > Perhaps the feeling is that the actual number of orders and the type > radio ordered and the number of orders shipped is seen competitive > information, and thus will be masked as much as possible. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 - Invoice numbers
Ken's invoice is 47389. My invoice (May 18th) is 48130. Any guesses I feel left out - I wanna an invoice number too... Seriously, I ordered by fax on the 28th of April and do not have an invoice number. I do have a bunch of emails with Elecraft dealing with minor credit card snafus, filter order updates and the like, but no invoice number... Do I need to have a good panic now? ;-) vy 73 de toby -- DD5FZ (ex 4n6fz, dj7mgq, dg5mgq, dd5fz) K2/10 #885 K2/100 #3248 K3/100 #??? (196 days and counting) DOK C12, BCC, DL-QRP-AG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New List Member with T1 Questions
Will I need a balun for the end-fed wires? With end fed wires you will not need a balun and very likely will not need an unun (unbalanced to unbalanced transformer) either. You should try to avoid half wave (very high Z) wire lengths. A good RF ground, e.g. "good" radials connected directly to ground connector of the tuner is always a good idea. vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 flashback...how good was your crystal ball?
http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg35388.html ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: Elecraft K3 (6M)
I have just finished K3 ser # 39 As well as having an interest in HF/CW I am a keen 6m Operator and do EME on 6m from time to time. My antenna is a M2 6M7JHV at 60 feet fed with Ecoflex 10, in total about 120 Feet of feeder. I use no masthead preamp.I am in a quiet rural location with my Icom IC-7800 with the widest roofing filter and preamp1 on I can hear several dB of band noise from the antenna over a Dummy load. A quick and unscientific test by ear with the K3 shows that it too can hear band noise on the antenna, perhaps not quite as much as the 7800 but I think the K3 will be sensitive enough for serious 6m work. If I get a chance during the week I will take some more accurate measurements with a signal generator and stepped attenuator. Now does anyone want to buy a clean revision2 Icom IC7800 ;-) I will deliver within EI GI 73 Brendan EI6IZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] [K3][Fwd: Re: Mine's on it's way!]
I almost missed this It landed my mail-list-account-unfiltered-folder. THANK YOU Eric vy 73 de toby Original Message Subject: Re: Mine's on it's way! Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:18:40 -0800 From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Lisa Jones - Elecraft Sales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Toby, I just checked the shipping plan for early next week. Your order should go out on Monday. 73, Eric ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT on the way
The online invoice numbers are assigned by the shopping cart provider that Elecraft uses. Elecraft has nothing to do with how those numbers get assigned. I know this because I used to use the same shopping cart provider! 73 - jeff wk6i David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: No, it's nothing like my CC number - and if they did that, all there order numbers from me would be the same! I think we should end this thread here, before Eric gets fed up with it :-) On 10/11/07 14:56, "Rowland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: Sorry I did not explain in the last email. I hit send too early. The 12 digit number used on the invoice is probably related to your credit card with 4 digits missing. I could be wrong but I have seen this before on invoices So beware Rowland G4APO -- Jeff Stai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Twisted Oak Winery http://www.twistedoak.com/ Winery Blog http://www.elbloggotorcido.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Optimal CW filter combination
Hi gang! I am trying to understand what my best choice of CW filters in the K3 would be. Most of the time I am on topband, but I also chase DX around all bands. I plan to do a little contesting, but it is not my primary interest. I have an order for a 400hz 8-pole filter, but I am considering changing this order to the 5-pole 500/200hz combination. What difference should I expect in performance between the 8-pole 400hz filter and the 5-pole 500hz filter and is the 8-pole filter worth the extra investment? If in my situation, what would you prefer? The solo 8-pole 400hz filter or the combination of a 500/200hz 5-pole filter? 73 de Björn /SM0MDG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] New List Member with T1 Questions
Sri for the blank message in this thread. Phone rang and I was distracted. Toby and Robert have reiterated what I wrote anyway! A couple of other points based on experience with my T1. The T1, like all Elecraft tuners, uses a highly-efficient L-network matching system. You'll find that it handles a very wide range of impedances. It has nothing to do with the tuner, but those antennas (1/4 wave wires and short loaded vertical "super antenna") have low radiation resistances - especially that "super antenna"! That means your performance is heavily dependent upon the quality of the RF ground you provide. While the T1 will probably give you a 1:1 match with little or no ground, the system will radiate much, much better with at least a rudimentary 1/4 wave long "counterpoise" wire connected to the T1's ground lug. You'll need one for each band for best performance. Use insulated wire and keep the far end "in the clear" as it will be "hot" with RF. If outdoors, it's smart to string the "counterpoise" wires above head height to avoid the earth and tripping/strangling folks . Indoors you can put it on the floor, run it around baseboards, etc. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] New List Member with T1 Questions
Thanks to all who have responded so far to my questions about the T1 autotuner. The main feature, other than the great reviews that I've read about it, that attracted me to the T1 is the fact that it has a self-contained power supply (a 9V battery). In my original post, I mentioned that I used dedicated end-fed halfwave wires with quarterwave radials. I cut my wires using the calculations on KD4SAI's webpage (http://www.qsl.net/kd4sai/antencal.html). I use only 1 radial/counterpoise. Sounds like I may need to use several radials if I go with the T1. Again, thanks for your responses. Keep 'em coming!! TNX es 73 de Steve N5WBI Houston TX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] New List Member with T1 Questions
Steve, N5WBI wrote: Sounds like I may need to use several radials if I go with the T1. --- The T1 won't require you use more radials! Indeed, the T1 will probably match just fine with NO counterpoise/radial wire(s). But a 1:1 match doesn't mean the antenna is radiating efficiently. An end fed low-impedance radiator is very dependent upon the quality of the RF ground for efficient operation. That has nothing to do with the tuner. No matter what tuner or matching system you may use, or even if the antenna is designed to be fed directly from a 50 ohm transmission line, the performance of such antennas is highly dependent upon the quality of the RF ground. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2/100 For Sale...lower price
I have my K2/100 for sale. The K2 serial number is 5439. It has the following options included. KPA100 one hundred watt PA KAT100-1 one hundred watt automatic antenna tuner KSB2 SSB option Kenwood MC 43 microphone K160RX 160 meters with receive antenna KNB2 noise blanker KAF2 audio filter This is a complete K2 station; all you need to get on the air is a power supply and antenna. Everything else is included. The radio includes the power cord, all cabling and manuals. The radio is in excellent condition with no scratches, dents or dings and works perfectly. I have built many Elecraft kits over the years and the workmanship on this radio is great. Over $1500 invested in the K2 and options. I will ship insured anywhere in continental USA for $1150. If interested please contact me via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Brent WB4X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] [K3] KRX3 & KBPF3 Question
Now that I know that my K3 will soon be coming, this might just be a case of last minute jitters... In the long run I plan on using the KFL3B-FM in the primary RX and the KFL3A-6K in the secondary RX for listening to broadcast stations. Afaik this would require the KBPF3 to be installed on the KRX3 board and not on the main RF board. As a clone of the main receiver this should be possible, shouldn't it? Did I overlook something? vy 73 de toby -- DD5FZ (ex 4n6fz, dj7mgq, dg5mgq, dd5fz) K2/10 #885 K2/100 #3248 K3/100 #??? (really soon now) DOK C12, BCC, DL-QRP-AG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [K3] KRX3 & KBPF3 Question
> In the long run I plan on using the KFL3B-FM in the primary > RX and the KFL3A-6K in the secondary RX for listening to > broadcast stations. Afaik this would require the KBPF3 to be > installed on the KRX3 board and not on the main RF board. As > a clone of the main receiver this should be possible, > shouldn't it? Did I overlook something? That is correct. The KBPF3 can be installed on either receiver. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KRX3 & KBPF3 Question
Or both, if you want general-coverage receive on both. Ed Muns wrote: In the long run I plan on using the KFL3B-FM in the primary RX and the KFL3A-6K in the secondary RX for listening to broadcast stations. Afaik this would require the KBPF3 to be installed on the KRX3 board and not on the main RF board. As a clone of the main receiver this should be possible, shouldn't it? Did I overlook something? That is correct. The KBPF3 can be installed on either receiver. Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [K3] KRX3 & KBPF3 Question
If you have two KBPF3s. ;>) Ed Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Or both, if you want general-coverage receive on both. > > Ed Muns wrote: > > >> In the long run I plan on using the KFL3B-FM in the primary RX and > >> the KFL3A-6K in the secondary RX for listening to > broadcast stations. > >> Afaik this would require the KBPF3 to be installed on the > KRX3 board > >> and not on the main RF board. As a clone of the main receiver this > >> should be possible, shouldn't it? Did I overlook something? > > > > That is correct. The KBPF3 can be installed on either receiver. > > Wayne > N6KR > > --- > > http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Anyone using DeoxIT Gold?
I know this topic has come up before, but is anyone actually using DeoxIT Gold on their K3? (See http://store.caig.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.292/.f) Past discussions here have stated that it's the appropriate product in their lineup to use, but is anyone actually using it? Is it worthwhile? If anything, I think I'd just get the $5.95 2 mL squeeze tube. 73, Mike Boice KW1ND ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KRX3 & KBPF3 Question
I'm confused, the KBPF3 is a fairly large board that mounts on the RF board and operates in bypass to the ham band only BPF. Has anyone seen the KRX3 schematic or an image that tells the full story? Al WA6VNN In a message dated 11/10/2007 3:23:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you have two KBPF3s. ;>) Ed Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Or both, if you want general-coverage receive on both. > > Ed Muns wrote: > > >> In the long run I plan on using the KFL3B-FM in the primary RX and > >> the KFL3A-6K in the secondary RX for listening to > broadcast stations. > >> Afaik this would require the KBPF3 to be installed on the > KRX3 board > >> and not on the main RF board. As a clone of the main receiver this > >> should be possible, shouldn't it? Did I overlook something? > > > > That is correct. The KBPF3 can be installed on either receiver. > > Wayne > N6KR > > --- > > http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [K3] KRX3 & KBPF3 Question
The KBPF3 mounts on the KRX3 just as it does on the RF board. The KRX3 is basically the RX portion of the RF board that mounts above the RF board, with enough space to clear the boards plugged into the RF board (KBPF3, KNB3, etc.). A KBPF3 can mount on either or both of the RF board and the KRX3 simultaneously in the same K3. 73, Ed - W0YK > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, 10 November, 2007 17:35 > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KRX3 & KBPF3 Question > > I'm confused, the KBPF3 is a fairly large board that mounts > on the RF board and operates in bypass to the ham band only > BPF. Has anyone seen the KRX3 schematic or an image that > tells the full story? > > Al WA6VNN > > In a message dated 11/10/2007 3:23:21 P.M. Pacific Standard > Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > If you have two KBPF3s. ;>) > > Ed > > Wayne Burdick wrote: > > > > Or both, if you want general-coverage receive on both. > > > > Ed Muns wrote: > > > > >> In the long run I plan on using the KFL3B-FM in the > primary RX and > > >> the KFL3A-6K in the secondary RX for listening to > > broadcast stations. > > >> Afaik this would require the KBPF3 to be installed on the > > KRX3 board > > >> and not on the main RF board. As a clone of the main > receiver this > > >> should be possible, shouldn't it? Did I overlook something? > > > > > > That is correct. The KBPF3 can be installed on either receiver. > > > > Wayne > > N6KR > > > > --- > > > > http://www.elecraft.com > > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > > > ** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] [K3] Assembly Manual
When trying to download the K3 Assembly Manual with the following description, (8 MB) K3 Assembly Manual (Rev B, 10/28/07), I always get the 3.61 MB web version. Is the 8MB version being overhauled? Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Muns Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 8:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [K3] KRX3 & KBPF3 Question The KBPF3 mounts on the KRX3 just as it does on the RF board. The KRX3 is basically the RX portion of the RF board that mounts above the RF board, with enough space to clear the boards plugged into the RF board (KBPF3, KNB3, etc.). A KBPF3 can mount on either or both of the RF board and the KRX3 simultaneously in the same K3. 73, Ed - W0YK > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, 10 November, 2007 17:35 > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KRX3 & KBPF3 Question > > I'm confused, the KBPF3 is a fairly large board that mounts > on the RF board and operates in bypass to the ham band only > BPF. Has anyone seen the KRX3 schematic or an image that > tells the full story? > > Al WA6VNN > > In a message dated 11/10/2007 3:23:21 P.M. Pacific Standard > Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > If you have two KBPF3s. ;>) > > Ed > > Wayne Burdick wrote: > > > > Or both, if you want general-coverage receive on both. > > > > Ed Muns wrote: > > > > >> In the long run I plan on using the KFL3B-FM in the > primary RX and > > >> the KFL3A-6K in the secondary RX for listening to > > broadcast stations. > > >> Afaik this would require the KBPF3 to be installed on the > > KRX3 board > > >> and not on the main RF board. As a clone of the main > receiver this > > >> should be possible, shouldn't it? Did I overlook something? > > > > > > That is correct. The KBPF3 can be installed on either receiver. > > > > Wayne > > N6KR > > > > --- > > > > http://www.elecraft.com > > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > > > ** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Assembly Manual......web or full???
Stan wrote: "When trying to download the K3 Assembly Manual with the following description, (8 MB) K3 Assembly Manual (Rev B, 10/28/07), I always get the 3.61 MB web version. Is the 8MB version being overhauled?" No I get the same thing and mentioned it a week or two ago and it hasn't been changed. They may be too busy trying to catch up. Michael N2ZDB ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Good Evening, The weather has been wonderful for the last two weeks. Other than a heavy rain yesterday it has been sunny and mild. Great for cleaning up the yard, cutting, splitting, and stacking wood, plus taking hikes around the country side. Luckily the rain of yesterday has moved south so the folks in California can enjoy a little respite from non-stop sun. Thursday I got out to start cutting up another tree when the woods exploded. Nothing like flushing four grouse at once! They sure do make a racket when they take off. I only saw silhouettes but think they were most likely ruffed grouse and not the more uncommon spruce grouse. I am glad they're back. It means my work in the back has opened up some area for them. The deer and elk will now have an easier time in the back yard because they don't have to walk around so many trees. Another few months of work and that land will be clear. One of my walks this week was to inspect the damage to the rest of the woods. I'll not be done clearing that out for many years. There must be five acres of wind fallen trees. Twenty meters has been tough this week but I was able to get through each day. Forty meters supported the fox hunt nicely offering both foxes to me here in Oregon. Hopefully we will be able to hear each other tomorrow evening so we can see how the weather is in your part of the world. Please take notice of the time change. Local time stays the same so we will be fighting darkness on both nets. Twenty meters will be open for a short while at the beginning but the easternmost folks will disappear quickly. So, let's try to work them first since the western folks will be easier to find later on. Please join us tomorrow evening. Tomorrow: 1) Hail signs (first letter or two of the suffix of your call) 2) NCS help (as well as QSP/QNP help) Please join us: Monday z (Sunday 4 PM PST) 14050 kHz Monday 0300z (Sunday 7 PM PST) 7045 kHz 73, Kevin. KD5ONS ecn.visionseer.com P.S. Comet Holmes is well placed. I hope to see a hint of a tail tonight. KJR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly Manual......web or full???
The Web version has low-res pictures and that makes it smaller. If it helps any I built my K3 from that version of the assembly manual and the pictures are sufficiently detailed to determine what you're supposed to do. There are two places where the pictures are of a different (older? newer?) version of the RF board (figs 56 and 58), but it's completely obvious what they're trying to show you (the important components were in the same location on my board as in the picture; it was two nearby components that were different). Fig 57 shows the components in the location that matched my board. There are pictures of a couple connectors that need to mate when you're attaching the front panel assembly to the RF board assembly that have plenty of resolution but the connectors themselves were harder to see on my boards than they were in the pictures (Fig 54). And it doesn't matter anyway because that step is difficult no matter what pictures they show you. There are some pictures very early in the process of locations of standoffs that aren't very helpful (figures 7 and 9) but it's because they don't give enough context, not because they aren't of sufficient resolution. If you refer back to the location of the mixer board and noise blanker board in figure 1 it will give you a clue where the standoffs go. Don't forget to check the site for an update after you get your K3. The one in the box (or the one you printed out today) may be older than the one on the Web site. Also don't forget to apply the errata. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 10:15 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly Manual..web or full??? Stan wrote: "When trying to download the K3 Assembly Manual with the following description, (8 MB) K3 Assembly Manual (Rev B, 10/28/07), I always get the 3.61 MB web version. Is the 8MB version being overhauled?" No I get the same thing and mentioned it a week or two ago and it hasn't been changed. They may be too busy trying to catch up. Michael N2ZDB ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Looking to have a QSO with a Elecraft K3 on SSB
Hello all you lucky K3 owners, I would like to have a QSO with someone who will be using their K3 on SSB, 17 or 20 meters is preferred... Can anybody find the time on Sunday? Thanks, John N2KBE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly Manual......web or full???
Probably the reason the hi-res version hasn't been put on line may be because Eric is focused on herding K3s out the door. He handles all the files put on the server. In the current manual the assembly step referring to Figures 7 and 9 specifically suggests consulting Figure 14 which also shows those positions on the overall board in case the builder has trouble finding the connectors by their J-number. (I believe I added that cross reference based on your comments when you built your K3, Craig, tnx! ;-) Craig is right. The K3 shown in the pictures is a pre-production unit assembled last June, and some boards are a bit different in places. We've taken the time to shoot new pictures wherever we felt the difference might be obvious and confusing to builders. Normally I'd have updated all the illustrations with production-level boards, but with the delays in getting critical parts in and starting shipments, no one, especially me, wanted to suggest that a set of boards come to me for an extended photo session instead of going straight into a kit and out the door! And Craig's suggestion is very important: be sure to check the current errata on the web site. We're making little tweaks and improvements almost daily as builder comments come in, like Craig's. If you have any corrections or suggestions, I'd appreciate your dropping a note to me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tnx Ron AC7AC -Original Message- The Web version has low-res pictures and that makes it smaller. If it helps any I built my K3 from that version of the assembly manual and the pictures are sufficiently detailed to determine what you're supposed to do. There are two places where the pictures are of a different (older? newer?) version of the RF board (figs 56 and 58), but it's completely obvious what they're trying to show you (the important components were in the same location on my board as in the picture; it was two nearby components that were different). Fig 57 shows the components in the location that matched my board. There are pictures of a couple connectors that need to mate when you're attaching the front panel assembly to the RF board assembly that have plenty of resolution but the connectors themselves were harder to see on my boards than they were in the pictures (Fig 54). And it doesn't matter anyway because that step is difficult no matter what pictures they show you. There are some pictures very early in the process of locations of standoffs that aren't very helpful (figures 7 and 9) but it's because they don't give enough context, not because they aren't of sufficient resolution. If you refer back to the location of the mixer board and noise blanker board in figure 1 it will give you a clue where the standoffs go. Don't forget to check the site for an update after you get your K3. The one in the box (or the one you printed out today) may be older than the one on the Web site. Also don't forget to apply the errata. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: De-Oxit
De-Oxit Gold for Gold xcontacts De-Oxit regular for Tin/Lead/etc contacts I use both. Just be sure to let it dry before re-applying power. On 11 Nov 2007 at 0:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I know this topic has come up before, but is anyone actually using >> DeoxIT Gold - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly Manual......web or full???
I was just curious what happened to the Hi Res version (8 MB). Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Rairdin Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 10:48 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly Manual..web or full??? The Web version has low-res pictures and that makes it smaller. If it helps any I built my K3 from that version of the assembly manual and the pictures are sufficiently detailed to determine what you're supposed to do. There are two places where the pictures are of a different (older? newer?) version of the RF board (figs 56 and 58), but it's completely obvious what they're trying to show you (the important components were in the same location on my board as in the picture; it was two nearby components that were different). Fig 57 shows the components in the location that matched my board. There are pictures of a couple connectors that need to mate when you're attaching the front panel assembly to the RF board assembly that have plenty of resolution but the connectors themselves were harder to see on my boards than they were in the pictures (Fig 54). And it doesn't matter anyway because that step is difficult no matter what pictures they show you. There are some pictures very early in the process of locations of standoffs that aren't very helpful (figures 7 and 9) but it's because they don't give enough context, not because they aren't of sufficient resolution. If you refer back to the location of the mixer board and noise blanker board in figure 1 it will give you a clue where the standoffs go. Don't forget to check the site for an update after you get your K3. The one in the box (or the one you printed out today) may be older than the one on the Web site. Also don't forget to apply the errata. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 10:15 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly Manual..web or full??? Stan wrote: "When trying to download the K3 Assembly Manual with the following description, (8 MB) K3 Assembly Manual (Rev B, 10/28/07), I always get the 3.61 MB web version. Is the 8MB version being overhauled?" No I get the same thing and mentioned it a week or two ago and it hasn't been changed. They may be too busy trying to catch up. Michael N2ZDB ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 Top Cover w/spkr/
Hi Folks, Looking for a K2 Top Cover with Spkr KIO2 KAT2 wired and good to go. Please let me know what you have and price or possible trade. Bob W7WO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks.. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Looking to have a QSO with a Elecraft K3 on SSB
Would imagine there would be quite a few on the SSB SS next weekend. - David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW K2 S/N 5982 On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 00:21 -0500, JohnFT wrote: > Hello all you lucky K3 owners, > > I would like to have a QSO with someone who will be using their K3 on SSB, 17 > or 20 meters is preferred... Can anybody find the time on Sunday? > > > Thanks, > John > N2KBE > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Australian shipment??
I faxed my K3 order on 29th April, had a few glitches with the credit card details but all was sorted. Just wondering if I will the first in VK to get mine ...( soon ? ) 73 Keith -- Keith Bainbridge VK6XH & VK6DXR Secretary Northern Corridor Radio Group Inc VK6ANC/VK6WPR. Chairman WIA VK6 Advisory Committee. Skype " keithxh" http:/www.qrz.com/vk6xh ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
