RE: [Elecraft] Re: kit versus built

2008-03-28 Thread Charles Harpole

When I flew to Nepal both times taking squeeze keys the Vibroplex and the 
Bencher both arrived 
 
as a bag of parts.  The Nye was just fine both trips Vibration is huge on 
plane.  73Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED]  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: kit versus built Date: 
Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:26:23 -0500  On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:18:18 -0400, you 
wrote:  On Thursday 27 March 2008 03:23:10 pm John wrote:   My point 
was that if you get an assembled K3, factory   tested and ready to go, your 
chances of having a problem are about   zero.   This, and others reports 
of SMD components not being soldered suggests that the boards are not fully 
tested.  I've never heard of Lego components being substandard so that the 
robot can't be built.  Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962  I once worked as a 
production manager for a company that manufactured and sold electronic camera 
control equipment for the printing industry. This was in the early 70's before 
everything was solid state. We had a burn in room where after going through 
quality control, all of the equipment was turned on and left running for 24 
hours while setting on spring mounted shelves that were shaken violently 
enough that the units had to be secured to the shelves. We did this to 
simulate the vibration of shipping via truck and aircraft. We then checked 
each unit for adjustment changes, etc. If they failed on the vibrator they 
were repaired and sent back to the vibrator for another run.  We never had a 
unit come back due to bad soldering or loose nuts and bolts because the 
vibration burn in would find these troubles for us before we shipped.  It's 
possible that tested K3 units are suffering from vibration during shipping 
which is revealing those anomalies that won't show up until after the units 
and kits are subjected to shipping vibration. You might be surprised how much 
vibration a cargo aircraft has during takeoff, landing and flight. Then there 
are the cross country trucks and local delivery trucks that have a lot more 
vibration in their cargo areas than an aircraft.  Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - 
Grid EM12jq  They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little 
temporary safety  deserve neither liberty nor safety.  --Benjamin Franklin 
1775   Support the entire Constitution, not  just the parts you like.  
http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE  
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RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net on 40m -- hello?

2008-03-28 Thread Jim
College Basketball tournaments plus I just flat out forgot. 

Jim


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Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net on 40m -- hello?

I heard nobody tonight. There was another QSO on 7190. I called 2Kc  
higher and 2Kc lower for 8 minutes, but heard nobody.

I suggest that if you hear nobody on or around the frequency, find the  
nearest clear spot and call it yourself. You don't commit yourself to  
being net control, you just put the signal out to see if anyone is  
lurking.

We were off to a good start a few weeks ago, but activity has faded. I  
hope we can get active enough to at least maintain a meeting point. If  
there isn't much interest, maybe we should go to one night per week.

Windy KM5Q
Santa Fe, NM
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[Elecraft] K3 SMD Size

2008-03-28 Thread Brett Howard
What is the general average size of the passives on the K3 boards?  Are
we talking 0402, 0603 or 0805 for the most part?  Are there any BGA
components?  

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 High Current

2008-03-28 Thread David Woolley (E.L)

Nick Henwood wrote:

I am sorting out my K2/100 which had an unhappy experience with a

* thunderstorm in 5x two weeks ago. Thanks for helpful comments.
*
Almost there but I am doing the power calibration. I adjust R26 

* to get the K2 and my power meter reading the same. All goes OK until
* I get to about 10W when I Get Hi Curr and the rig draws a lot more
* current e.g. from1.8A to 3.8A. I could stay with 10W for ever

1.8A seems a bit low for 10 watts.

* (probably enough to drive the linear) but this is not how it was.

This is a classic symptom of losing the output power monitoring diodes 
on the 100 watt PA.  I believe they are 1N5711's.  There are many 
examples of this in the list archives.  The K2 isn't EMP hardened!



Any ideas please?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - EQ on CW TX

2008-03-28 Thread David Woolley (E.L)

Nick wrote:



I am wondering if the TX EQ only works in SSB mode or if it also
effects the CW tone as well. Does anyone have an answer to this? I
would like to be able to shape the CW tone a little.


The spectrum from a properly keyed A1A signal is much narrower than even 
a single bin on a typical equaliser.  If you hold the key down, it has 
no width at all.  The keying sidebands (which cause key clicks if 
excessive, but are necessary for the keying to work) are generally 
reduced by filtering the baseband data (key shaping).


How would allowing equalisation on CW help improve the tone?

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Re: [Elecraft] Selecting An Iabic Key

2008-03-28 Thread Mike S

At 07:25 PM 3/27/2008, Lyle Johnson wrote...
Sure he can.  CW - RTTY and CW - PSK31 are already features on the 
K3, and the VFO B display provides decoding of those modes, too (as 
well as CW...)


For a presentation on this topic see  
URL:http://www.microhams.com/softcontent.aspx?scId=48 


My mistake, I didn't know that. Thanks for pointing that out. 


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net on 40m -- hello?

2008-03-28 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
do you think you could announce this earlier - like at least 12 hours  
before - since I'd like to have a go, but I'm many hours ahead of you  
and I forget.

Please post the time and freq again and I'll put a reminder in my iCal
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must take an equal portion, most people would be contented to take  
their own and depart.

-Socrates (469?-399 B.C.)

On 28 Mar 2008, at 01:38, KM5Q wrote:
I heard nobody tonight. There was another QSO on 7190. I called 2Kc  
higher and 2Kc lower for 8 minutes, but heard nobody.


I suggest that if you hear nobody on or around the frequency, find  
the nearest clear spot and call it yourself. You don't commit  
yourself to being net control, you just put the signal out to see if  
anyone is lurking.


We were off to a good start a few weeks ago, but activity has faded.  
I hope we can get active enough to at least maintain a meeting  
point. If there isn't much interest, maybe we should go to one night  
per week.


Windy KM5Q
Santa Fe, NM

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Re: [Elecraft] Selecting An Iabic Key

2008-03-28 Thread Leo PA5LS

I ordered a Black Widow Paddle kit from Jerry W5JH
http://www.w5jh.net/Black_Widow.htm and found an article by Chuck Adams K5FO
on how to start using them http://www.morsecode.nl/iambic.PDF

'73 Leo PA5LS



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[Elecraft] K3 SMD Size

2008-03-28 Thread Dave G4AON

Brett

For the HAGC and CW rise time mods I used size 805 parts.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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What is the general average size of the passives on the K3 boards? Are
we talking 0402, 0603 or 0805 for the most part? Are there any BGA
components?
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[Elecraft] N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar: March 29 - April 30, 2008

2008-03-28 Thread Ken Newman

~
N2CQ QRP CONTEST CALENDAR
March 29 - April 30, 2008
~
CQ World-Wide WPX Contest (SSB) ... QRP Category
Mar 29, z to Mar 30, 2359z
Rules: http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/awards.html
~
MQFD Monthly Sprint (CW/PH/Digital) *** QRP Contest ***
Mar 29, 1800z to 2200z
Rules: http://w2agn.net/mqfdsprint.html
~
LZOCC 40m CW Sprint ... QRP Category
Apr 5, z to 0400z
Rules: http://www.linkove.com/lzocc40/
~
QRP ARCI Spring QSO Party (CW) ..QRP Contest!!!
Apr 5, 1200z to Apr 6, 2359z
Rules: http://www.qrparci.org
~
SP DX Contest (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category
Apr 5, 1500z to Apr 6, 1500z
Rules:  http://www.spdxcontest.info/reg/spdxc_g.pdf
~
EA RTTY Contest
Apr 5, 1600z to Apr 6, 1600z
Rules: http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/pdf/eartty.pdf
~
Missouri QSO Party (ALL) 
Apr 5, 1800z to Apr 6, 0500z 
Apr 6, 1800z to Apr 6, 2400z

Rules: http://www.qsl.net/w0ma/contests.htm
~
Adventure Radio Spartan Sprint (CW) ... QRP Event!
EDT: Apr 7, 9 PM to 11 PM (First Monday each month)
UTC: Apr 8, 0100z to 0300z 
Info: http://arsqrp.pbwiki.com:80/Spartan+Sprints

~
UBA Spring Sprint (80m SSB) ... QRP Entries Noted
Apr 13, 0600z to 1000z
Rules: http://www.uba.be/hf_contests/rules_en.html#
~
SKCC Sprint (Straight Key CW)  ... QRP Awards
Apr 9, z to 0200z
Rules: http://skccgroup.com/sprint/sprint-rules.htm
~
NAQCC Straight Key/Bug Sprint (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
EDT: Apr 8, 8:30 PM to 10:30 PM
UTC: Apr 9, 0030Z to 0230Z
Rules: http://www.arm-tek.net/~yoel/contests.html
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PSK Flavors Contest ... QRP Category
Apr 12, 12:00 to 18:00 YOUR LOCAL TIME
Rules: http://www.podxs070.com/
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Georgia QSO Party (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category
Apr 12, 1800z to Apr 13, 0359z
Apr 13, 1400z to Apr 13, 2359z 
Rules: http://gqp.contesting.com

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SKCC Weekend Sprint (Straight Key CW) ... QRP Category
Apr 13, z to z
Rules: http://www.iglou.com/sonic//skcc/wknd-sprint-rules.html
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The HOLYLAND DX CONTEST (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category
Apr 19, z to 2359z
Rules: http://www.iarc.org/
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TARA Skirmish Digital Prefix Contest ... QRP Category
Apr 19, z to 2359z
Rules: http://www.n2ty.org/seasons/tara_seasons.html
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Michigan QSO Party (CW/SSB)  ...QRP Category
Apr 19, 1600z to Apr 20, 0400z
Rules: http://www.miqp.org/
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EA-QRP Contest (CW) ... QRP Contest!
Apr 19, 1700z to 2000z (10, 15  20 Mtrs)
Apr 19, 2000z to 2300z (80 Mtrs)
Apr 20, 0700z to 1100z (40 Mtrs)
Apr 20, 1100z to 1300z (10, 15  20 Mtrs)
Rules: http://www.eaqrp.com/concurso/test_eaqrp_cw-en.htm
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Ontario QSO Party (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category
Apr 19, 1800z to Apr 20, 0500z
Apr 20, 1200z to Apr 20, 1800z
Rules: http://cco.ve3xd.com/oqp/
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RUN FOR THE BACON (CW) *** QRP CONTEST ***
EDT: Apr 20, 9 PM to 11 PM
UTC: Apr 21, 0100z 0300z
Rules: http://fpqrp.net:80/fpqrprun.php
~
MQFD Monthly Sprint (CW/PH/Digital) *** QRP Contest ***
Apr 26, 1800z to 2200z
Rules: http://w2agn.net/mqfdsprint.html
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SP DX RTTY Contest
Apr 26, 1200z to Apr 27, 1200z
Rules: http://www.pkrvg.org/zbior.html
~
Florida QSO Party (CW/Phone) ...QRP Category
Apr 26, 1600z to Apr 27, 0159z and
Apr 27, 1200z to 2159z
Rules: http://www.floridaqsoparty.org/
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Nebraska QSO Party (CW/SSB/Digital) ... QRP Category
Apr 26, 1700z to Apr 27, 1700z
Rules: http://www.qsl.net/hdxa/neqso/index.htm
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FISTS/EUCW CW QRS Contest (CW) ... QRP Category
Apr 28, 0001z to May 2, 2359z
Rules: http://www.agcw.org/?Contests
~
Helvetia Contest (CW/SSB) (Swiss) 

Re: [Elecraft] K3 SMD Size

2008-03-28 Thread Lyle Johnson

What is the general average size of the passives on the K3 boards?


0805 and 0603 are the most common two sizes of passives used.

Are there any BGA components?  


Not yet :-)

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page (CW rise time)

2008-03-28 Thread GW0ETF

According to the Application Notes Page my K3 #145 should have an ~8ms rise
time. However, viewed on my analogue 'scope the rise time (0 - 100%) is
definitely shorter and nearer to 5ms with a similar fall time though with a
sharper falling transition edge.

The notes suggest the mod is necessary to enable a future menu selectable
envelope adjustment but I don't want to reduce my rise time to a nominal 5ms
if it already is around that figure anyway - presumably I will end up with
an even steeper leading edge.

Anyone else looked at keying waveforms in pre s/n 211 K3s...?

Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF


Eric - WA6HHQ wrote:
 
 At long last we have the K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page, and 
 K3 enhancements parts kits order form, on-line. :-)
 
 See: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_app_notes.htm
 and:
 http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts
 
 There are .pdf documents for each item, along with the approximate date 
 and s/n of any K3 enhancement phase in.
 
 73, Eric  WA6HHQ
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page

2008-03-28 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF

I didn't see any s/n listing in any of the docs?
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On 28 Mar 2008, at 01:09, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
At long last we have the K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page,  
and K3 enhancements parts kits order form, on-line. :-)


See: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_app_notes.htm
and:
http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts

There are .pdf documents for each item, along with the approximate  
date and s/n of any K3 enhancement phase in.


73, Eric  WA6HHQ


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[Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page (CW rise time)

2008-03-28 Thread Dave G4AON

Stewart

I've just done the mod to my K3 and the rise time is shorter, of the 
order of 5 mS. I will post you the before and after images. I have 
posted the latest image on my web site (http://www.astromag.co.uk/k3/).


For those with slow linears, the bad news is the time from the key out 
line going low to RF appearing has reduced from around 12 mS to 8 mS. 
Just as well I have an Acom 1000.


73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
---
According to the Application Notes Page my K3 #145 should have an ~8ms rise
time. However, viewed on my analogue 'scope the rise time (0 - 100%) is
definitely shorter and nearer to 5ms with a similar fall time though with a
sharper falling transition edge.

The notes suggest the mod is necessary to enable a future menu selectable
envelope adjustment but I don't want to reduce my rise time to a nominal 5ms
if it already is around that figure anyway - presumably I will end up with
an even steeper leading edge.

Anyone else looked at keying waveforms in pre s/n 211 K3s...?

Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page (CW rise time)

2008-03-28 Thread Bill W4ZV



GW0ETF wrote:
 
 According to the Application Notes Page my K3 #145 should have an ~8ms
 rise time. However, viewed on my analogue 'scope the rise time (0 - 100%)
 is definitely shorter and nearer to 5ms with a similar fall time though
 with a sharper falling transition edge.
 
 The notes suggest the mod is necessary to enable a future menu selectable
 envelope adjustment but I don't want to reduce my rise time to a nominal
 5ms if it already is around that figure anyway - presumably I will end up
 with an even steeper leading edge.
 
 Anyone else looked at keying waveforms in pre s/n 211 K3s...?
 

The production start date for this mod could be in error on the webpage.  I
know this issue has been known about well before S/N 211.  My S/N is early
100's and it definitely needed the mod.  

Open your K3 (bottom panel closest to the front panel) and measure C222.  If
it's 0.1 uF, the mod has already been installed.  Unfortunately the only way
to tell, since SMD caps are unmarked, may be to use a capacitance meter
(unless Elecraft can suggest a better method).  I believe a meter will read
the value correctly even with the cap in-circuit.

73,  Bill

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page (CW rise time)

2008-03-28 Thread Bill W4ZV



Bill W4ZV wrote:
 
 The production start date for this mod could be in error on the webpage. 
 I know this issue has been known about well before S/N 211.  My S/N is
 early 100's and it definitely needed the mod.
 

I believe G4AON (K3 S/N 80) was the first to discover the CW rise time
issue.  From his K3 review:

There were no high power peaks when transmitting on low power and the
waveform of CW transmissions were smooth and clean when observed on an
oscilloscope. The rise and fall times were originally fixed and fairly soft
at approx 8 mS rise and 5 mS fall, not surprisingly there are no signs of
key clicks. A later change to the value of capacitor C222 (to 100 nF)
reduces the rise time to 5 mS. The time delay between the linear keying line
going low and RF appearing from the antenna socket is approximately 10 mS,
linears that are not able to switch in 10 mS would need to use the transmit
inhibit feature, QSK CW would be impossible with such a linear. A later
firmware upgrade is planned to offer variable time delays on the linear
keying line, for example the Kenwood TS-480 offers 10 mS or 25 mS depending
on QSK or semi-break in keying is used. The oscilloscope trace shown below
was triggered by the linear keying Voltage going low and shows a single
Morse dit at 20 words per minute, power output 10 Watts, this was taken
after changing C222 to 100 nF.

http://www.astromag.co.uk/k3/  (scroll down to CW waveform)

73,  Bill  
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RE: [Elecraft] Mic Switch Box

2008-03-28 Thread Terry Schieler
Phil wrote:

I need to switch my K2 mic input between two mic sources (TNC audio and 
a real microphone).  Both have the default Kenwood pinout.


I'm very pleased with my NCS-3240 Multi-Switcher.  Switches mics, speakers,
computer lines, keyers, etc.  Very versatile.

http://www.ncsradio.com/m_switch.html

Terry, W0FM


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Re: [Elecraft] TX EQ on data modes

2008-03-28 Thread Bill W5WVO
No, but the K3 should have a mode memory so that particular EQ settings 
(including OFF) remain with particular modes when changing back and forth. TX 
EQ can be potentially useful in equalizing the amplitudes of the four tones in 
FSK441 (used in high-speed meteor scatter) if the TX passband isn't quite 
flat. You might even want to boost the high and low tones just a tad to 
compensate for other guys' too-narrow passbands on RX...


Bill W5WVO

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am not sure I like that  result.  Should the TX EQ (and for that
matter the RX EQ) be turned off  automatically in DATA A and AFSK
modes?

k4ia
Buck
#101

In a message dated 3/27/2008 1:29:17 P.M.  Eastern Daylight Time,
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Tx EQ only applies to  modes where audio is used to create the final
transmission. So it applies to  AM, FM, SSB, DATA A and AFSK, but not
FSK-D, PSK-D or  CW.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page

2008-03-28 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft
S/Ns and shipping dates are shown on the K3 Enhancements and Application 
Notes web Page.


Please note that these s/ns and dates are not exact to the s/n and day 
as there can be a small day to day variance in s/n produced etc.


73, Eric

_..._



David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

I didn't see any s/n listing in any of the docs?
-- Children aren't happy without something to ignore, And that's what
parents were created for. -Ogden Nash (1902-1971)


On 28 Mar 2008, at 01:09, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
At long last we have the K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page, 
and K3 enhancements parts kits order form, on-line. :-)


See: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_app_notes.htm
and:
http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts

There are .pdf documents for each item, along with the approximate 
date and s/n of any K3 enhancement phase in.


73, Eric  WA6HHQ

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net on 40m -- hello?

2008-03-28 Thread Windy Dankoff KM5Q

David,
The 0200 UTC time is evening here, better for most folks in N. America. You
might try starting an Elecraft Euro net. When propagation allows, we can hop
the pond.

EVERYONE,
Find the net schedules at:
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
Scroll down to User Nets 
-- At time of this message, the 20m freq. has not yet been updated. It
should be 14.316.

If there's another QSO close to frequency, tune around. If you hear nobody,
call the net yourself. There may not be any official net control present.

Thanks
Windy KM5Q



M0XDF wrote:
 
 do you think you could announce this earlier - like at least 12 hours  
 before - since I'd like to have a go, but I'm many hours ahead of you  
 and I forget.
 Please post the time and freq again and I'll put a reminder in my iCal
  ...
 73 de M0XDF FISTS #12575 
 K3 #174
 

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[Elecraft] K3 Kit vs. Factory - difference in delivery time?

2008-03-28 Thread Darwin, Keith
The Katie-gram for my factory built K3 said Your order is scheduled to
ship in two to three weeks from confirmation
 
Is it the same two to three weeks for kits as well as factory rigs or
do kits have a shorter timeline from confirmation to shipping?
 
How long was it from Katie-gram to rig-in-hand for your K3?
 
- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
- K3 TBD -
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page

2008-03-28 Thread K4IA
Eric 

Can you comment on hardware mods  and how that is going to be handled?  My 
SN101 probably needs the keying  mod mentioned earlier in this thread and I 
don't know what  others.


k4ia
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page (CW risetime)

2008-03-28 Thread Don Ehrlich
My S/N 195 has a 1 microfarad installed and has what I would call an 8 mS 
rise time.


Don K7FJ


- Original Message - 
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page (CW 
risetime)





According to the Application Notes Page my K3 #145 should have an ~8ms 
rise

time. However, viewed on my analogue 'scope the rise time (0 - 100%) is
definitely shorter and nearer to 5ms with a similar fall time though with 
a

sharper falling transition edge.

The notes suggest the mod is necessary to enable a future menu selectable
envelope adjustment but I don't want to reduce my rise time to a nominal 
5ms

if it already is around that figure anyway - presumably I will end up with
an even steeper leading edge.

Anyone else looked at keying waveforms in pre s/n 211 K3s...?

Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF


Eric - WA6HHQ wrote:


At long last we have the K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page, and
K3 enhancements parts kits order form, on-line. :-)

See: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_app_notes.htm
and:
http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts

There are .pdf documents for each item, along with the approximate date
and s/n of any K3 enhancement phase in.

73, Eric  WA6HHQ


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit vs. Factory - difference in delivery time?

2008-03-28 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:33:14 -0700, you wrote:

The Katie-gram for my factory built K3 said Your order is scheduled to
ship in two to three weeks from confirmation
 
Is it the same two to three weeks for kits as well as factory rigs or
do kits have a shorter timeline from confirmation to shipping?
[snip]

I suspect that they don't assemble the factory built units until you verify that
you still want one, or that you now want a kit.  The time on the assembled
version might be due to that.

I could be wrong, but it makes sense to me...

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page

2008-03-28 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF

ok, ok :-)
a couple, of course I was looking at the KXV3 :-(

I need them all anyway
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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takes in.  -- Leonardo da Vinci


On 28 Mar 2008, at 14:35, Bill Tippett wrote:


I didn't see any s/n listing in any of the docs?

Maybe a new pair of glasses would help!  :-)

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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[Elecraft] K2 Audio mod comment

2008-03-28 Thread Roelof Bakker

Hello All,

Matti, TF3MA has suggested a mod for the K2 to improve the low frequency 
audio response by increasing the value of C25 and C26. Matti used 100 nF / 
0.1 uF in parrallel to C25 and C26. I had some 470 nF / 0.47 uF smd (1206) 
capacitors available and soldered  these at the bottom side of the control 
board PCB. This is a very easy mod and only requires one to remove the top 
cover and uninstalling the control board.


As a result it is now a joy to listen at a low pitch in CW mode.

Thanks!

Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt


TF3MA wrote:

But I discovered that my K2, had a rather limited low freq audio
response. So I took a look at the schematic for the audio circuit in the
K2...

The original low freq. cutoff (-3db) freq. is approx. 640Hz (with KAF or
DSP moduls installed) or 400Hz (with no audio moduls) determined by C25,
C26 and the 5kOhm volume control (and NE612 mixer impedance), to extend
the audio frequency response for the low freq. I put
0.1uF SMD across C25 and C26, extending the low frequency response to
approx. 320Hz. This improves the SSB sound of the receiver, and improves
SNR when copying low pitch CW signals. This simple mod increases the rx
audio signal at 300 Hz by about 3dB. 



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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net on 40m - Calling Europe

2008-03-28 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF

ok, yes that's a bit late for me.

Is there anyome in Europe interested in a K3 Euro SSB net ?
--  
God gives every bird his worm, but he does not throw it into the nest.

-Swedish proverb

On 28 Mar 2008, at 16:19, Windy Dankoff KM5Q wrote:


David,
The 0200 UTC time is evening here, better for most folks in N.  
America. You
might try starting an Elecraft Euro net. When propagation allows, we  
can hop

the pond.

EVERYONE,
Find the net schedules at:
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
Scroll down to User Nets
-- At time of this message, the 20m freq. has not yet been updated. It
should be 14.316.

If there's another QSO close to frequency, tune around. If you hear  
nobody,
call the net yourself. There may not be any official net control  
present.


Thanks
Windy KM5Q


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page

2008-03-28 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF

yeah, I see that now - very sorry to everyone for not opening my eyes :(

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On 28 Mar 2008, at 15:56, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft wrote:
S/Ns and shipping dates are shown on the K3 Enhancements and  
Application Notes web Page.


Please note that these s/ns and dates are not exact to the s/n and  
day as there can be a small day to day variance in s/n produced etc.



David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

I didn't see any s/n listing in any of the docs?

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net on 40m - Calling Europe

2008-03-28 Thread David Cutter
I would be, but my times are very variable at the mo and my antenna would 
be NVIS, ok for local stuff


David
G3UNA


ok, yes that's a bit late for me.

Is there anyome in Europe interested in a K3 Euro SSB net ?
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[Elecraft] Re: Selecting An Iabic Key

2008-03-28 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
There are so many to choose from ... it's hard to make a single 
recommendation, especially since you've never used one.


Since you don't have bad habits to unlearn (from, say, using a bug), I 
would recommend that, if you can, start out with a light touch and close 
spacing, which will serve you well as you build speed.


I've been trying out one of N3ZN's keys lately and am very impressed by 
the build quality and the performance for price. Certainly not cheap,
at around $200. The ZN-qrp model is small enough to tuck under the front 
of a K2 :-)


http://n3znkeys.com/ - he offers a 30-day return guarantee.

Bencher, Schurr, Kent, Begali are other names to explore. If you can, 
find a friend who has one or more to try out...


73 de chris K6DBG
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page (CW rise time)

2008-03-28 Thread GW0ETF



Bill W4ZV wrote:
 
 
 
 Bill W4ZV wrote:
 
 The production start date for this mod could be in error on the webpage. 
 I know this issue has been known about well before S/N 211.  My S/N is
 early 100's and it definitely needed the mod.
 
 
 I believe G4AON (K3 S/N 80) was the first to discover the CW rise time
 issue.  From his K3 review:
 
 
 

Bill,

My K3 s/n145 did need the mod. After some encouraging words from G4AON I've
just changed the cap and the difference in the waveform is substantial.
Previously the leading edge was very gradual and the amplitude actually
increased throughout the length of the element making it difficult to pick a
'full power' point with which to measure the rise time. The wave shape is
now symmetrical and level with both leading and trailing edges timed at
pretty much 5ms. As Dave G4AON has noted the keying delay has reduced
slightly to about 8ms but my Acom 1000 in qsk doesn't mind that.

73, Stewart, GW0ETF
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[Elecraft] FS: well equipped K2/100 S/N 2580

2008-03-28 Thread Jim Spears
For sale Elecraft K2/100 With the following options: -FDIMP - Tuning dial
finger Dimple -K160RX - 160M / 2nd RX Antenna Option -K60XV - 60M / Xvrtr
Intf. Option -KAF2 - Audio filter and Real Time Clock -KBT2 - Internal 2.9AH
Battery Kit -KDSP2 - Advanced K2 DSP Filter -KIO2 - AUX I/O RS-232 Interface
-KNB2 - Noise Blanker -KPA100 K2/100 Internal Integration Kit -KSB2 - SSB
Option.  

All manuals. The radio has been updated with the latest firmware. All in
excellent shape and never around smoke. In 9 out of 10 Condition! $1000 plus
shipping. PayPal + fee. photos on request. 

Jim/N1NK   

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[Elecraft] (no subject)

2008-03-28 Thread Jim Spears
MicroHam DB37-EL-K2 cable and RJ45 to Foster 8 male adapter for Elecraft K2.
$45 delivered to your door in USA 

Jim/N1NK

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 and Solar Panel

2008-03-28 Thread Windy Dankoff KM5Q

Ed,

I'd be very cautious around Li-Poly batteries. From what I know, they
require a very careful charging program. Most of them have temperature
sensing and a special chip built-in that signals back to the charger. On the
other hand, your panel is very low power so maybe it's OK. I really don't
know, but I just want you to take caution.

Windy KM5Q



Hello all,

I plan to conduct some tests. I have a small solar panel that puts out
50ma maximum. I'll connect it to my pimped-out KX1 and see how it
charges the 11.8v Li-Poly Battery. More to come...

72,
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[Elecraft] Anyone using WriteLog with the K3 and Vista?

2008-03-28 Thread fraz1
Please email me.

73 John fraz1 at bellsouth.net
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page (CW rise time)

2008-03-28 Thread michael taylor
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bill W4ZV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Anyone else looked at keying waveforms in pre s/n 211 K3s...?
  

  The production start date for this mod could be in error on the webpage.  I
  know this issue has been known about well before S/N 211.  My S/N is early
  100's and it definitely needed the mod.

I thought it is meant to be read, any K3 _up to_ S/N 211 may need the
modification. I take it that after that point in time a change was
made. Or am I just reading things backwards? Similar to how a number
of modifications were available/needed for early model K2s whereas a
late model K2 had very few mods / re-work needed.

-Michael
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[Elecraft] k2 test rx v.poor

2008-03-28 Thread Chris
hi im at the stage with k2 sno 6436 where i have done alignment  test part 2
pll,vco,bfo, all tested ok with good ranges. vfo linearization ok, but next
to no audio noise in my headphones on recive (audio side tone good and strong 
on test)
if i send some v,low rf from my old icom on 40m i can hear it but verry week.rf 
pre amp
makes it a little better .att kills it. if i have some low  rf at 5.915mhz on a 
wire and put it neer 
u11 or u12 i can hear the signal verry strong. neer to q22 its week agc, 
fast/slow/off
has no effect, could this be down to u4 on control board its out put is 7.55v i 
am
waiting for a new one from elecraft my last 3 k2's worked like a dream i would
be happy to recive any help thanks chris g0wfh
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[Elecraft] K3 board - lack of modification version control

2008-03-28 Thread Dave G4AON
It would be nice if Elecraft had marked the boards with either a version 
number or a modification state so there wouldn't be this ambiguity over 
which serial numbers were, or were not, modified at the factory prior to 
shipping.


Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80

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[Elecraft] K3/10 Ordered.Seeking suggestions for optimal interfacing method.

2008-03-28 Thread Jack Regan
Thanks to all who replied!  I got the input I needed.  I am now confident
that the options I ordered are just what I need to get started.

 

I AM going to investigate Tim Heasman's suggestion re: a two port RS232 PCI
card.  Perhaps I can forego the USB adapter route!

 

Thanks again to everyone. This thread can close now, as far as I am
concerned.

 

Jack, AE6GC, KX1 #1403, K3/10 on order

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 board - lack of modification version control

2008-03-28 Thread AD6XY - Mike

They did.

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[Elecraft] K3 board - lack of modification version control

2008-03-28 Thread Dave G4AON

Mike

Would you care to elaborate?

In the past when I worked for one of the large European manufacturers 
they had very strict version control, when a change was implemented the 
updated version number was written in black marker on the board, with 
the board number followed by /01, etc. In the case of military kit, or 
kit that may be used by the military, there had to be a mod state 
plate on the outside of the equipment too.


I received a replacement PA and driver board from Elecraft and there was 
no way to distinguish the updated driver board from the earlier one! The 
PA was easy as it had two resistors in parallel in place of the single 
ones at (I guess) R4  R5... But no markings that were obvious to me.


73 Dave, G4AON
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 board - lack of modification version control

2008-03-28 Thread Brett Howard
It says right there on the site that all Rev B boards have the update.  Read
the rev of your board and that is your version control.  What more do you
really want?

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Mike

Would you care to elaborate?

In the past when I worked for one of the large European manufacturers 
they had very strict version control, when a change was implemented the 
updated version number was written in black marker on the board, with 
the board number followed by /01, etc. In the case of military kit, or 
kit that may be used by the military, there had to be a mod state 
plate on the outside of the equipment too.

I received a replacement PA and driver board from Elecraft and there was 
no way to distinguish the updated driver board from the earlier one! The 
PA was easy as it had two resistors in parallel in place of the single 
ones at (I guess) R4  R5... But no markings that were obvious to me.

73 Dave, G4AON
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 board - lack of modification version control

2008-03-28 Thread AD6XY - Mike

All the boards I have seen have an issue number and a date. Not it may be
these are not updated. For example, I have a revision A transverter
interface KXV3. I assume (possibly incorrectly as I have the original board)
that the Rev B board is marked as such. 

Not having version control is such a fundamental mistake that I am sure
Elecraft would not make it.

Mike

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[Elecraft] K3 board - lack of modification version control

2008-03-28 Thread Don Rasmussen
Dude - they created a webpage with every hard change,
documented and diagrammed each, and will distribute at
no charge save for shipping. And if you have any
question at all they'll fix you up personally on the
spot - again - for free. After all that some see a
fundamental mistake with a board marking convention???


Alrighty then... ;-) 

Elecraft is not HP – they are… Elecraft!


[Elecraft] K3 board - lack of modification version
control
AD6XY - Mike m.j.willis at rl.ac.uk 
Fri Mar 28 17:25:24 EST 2008 

Previous message: [Elecraft] K3 board - lack of
modification version control 


All the boards I have seen have an issue number and a
date. It may be these are not updated. For example, I
have a revision A transverter interface KXV3. I assume
(possibly incorrectly as I have the original board)
that the Rev B board is marked as such. 

Not having version control is such a fundamental
mistake that I am sure Elecraft would not make it.

Mike


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 board - lack of modification version control

2008-03-28 Thread Dave Martin
I noticed that one of the two boards of my KXV3 is marked Rev A and
the other is marked Rev B.  The trouble is I could find nothing that
tells which is the Main board that was mentioned on the upgrade
page.  Doesn't matter anyway now I guess.  I forgot which one is
which, and now I've installed my KPA3 and can't see them.

Dave  W5DHM



On 3/28/08, AD6XY - Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  All the boards I have seen have an issue number and a date. It may be these

 are not updated. For example, I have a revision A transverter interface
  KXV3. I assume (possibly incorrectly as I have the original board) that the
  Rev B board is marked as such.

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[Elecraft] power troubles

2008-03-28 Thread Todd Ruby
here is the situation: I hold xmit to tune the ameritron al 1200 to  
1400 watts.Then when  I key the mike all i am getting is 300 watts  
out. i hold tune again and it is showing hi power.


help pse!




73
de
todd
WB2ZAB

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Re: [Elecraft] Farnsworth Method

2008-03-28 Thread David Wilburn
I'm just starting to move away from where you describe.  Been stuck 
there for too long.  Koch helped me a bunch.  Using the G4FON 
software, when I was traveling, I would sit in front of the TV at 
night and every commercial (there are a lot) I would mute the TV and 
start G4FON sending common words, and I would type them.  It helps 
that I can touch type.  I would often have to go back and read what I 
had copied, and was amazed at some of the complicated words.


Three things have helped me, though as far as QSO's digressing from 
the script, I still have trouble.

*Contesting
*MP3 player
*Listening while otherwise occupied

Contesting - they go fast, and I have to often sit there and listen 
over and over.  But it is a chance to get a lot of practice in a short 
period of time.  You are listening for your call, and then any 
exchange, this is all after you figure out their call.  Start at the 
top of the CW band (where they are going slower) and work your way 
down.  Morse runner is good for this too.


MP3 player - I get the archived MP3's from W1AW and load them on my 
cell phone MP3 player.  I can then, when driving, on when I have a 
moment, sit and listen to them.  Often at a faster speed than I can 
copy everything.  Makes me stretch my abilities.  Even if I just copy 
pieces, I am happy.  Then when I go back in speed, it seems much 
easier.  I will often let this play at night when I go to bed.  Have 
to watch that though, as too much code at night, and I start dreaming 
in morse, and that is REALLY weird.


Listening to the radio while doing other stuff - I have a rig in the 
car, mainly for listening to 20m cw.  I work from home and will, at 
times, let the rig run and just listen and copy bits and pieces.  Just 
today, with the rig on in the vehicle, and driving along, I was 
copying good chunks of a QSO, in my head.  Guy's name was Evan, and he 
lived in Horseshoebay, TX (that was a tough QTH to copy by the way) 
and I _think_ that is near Austin.


It is funny you mention copying words.  I first noticed that when I 
was active on FISTS.  The sound of the word FISTS is _very_ 
distinctive, and I learned that first.  But then I started noticing 
other words.  One that was initially quite painful was his.  The, 
is, and hr came to me pretty quick, followed by fb.  To this day, Q 
still messes me up.  You put a C in front of it, and I am just fine.


Great thread.  Know I'm a bit late, but really enjoying it.



Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982

A dead enemy is a peaceful enemy.blessed be the peacemakers.


G4ILO wrote:

I'm glad it's not just me that has this problem. I struggled with Morse for
years due to the way I learned it to pass the test, running each letter
through a lookup table in my head, which was too slow a method for
anything above 12wpm.

Thanks to using what I understood was the Koch method (which seems pretty
much like your Farnsworth method) I have re-learnt the code so that I can
now instinctively recognize letters, numbers and common punctuation at
around 20-25wpm. But I still get hung up converting the letters to words at
that speed.

If you spelt something out phonetically to me, I would copy it letter by
letter and would have to have a second look at the whole thing when you
finished, to get the word itself. It's the same in CW, and by the time I
have done that I have missed the first couple of letters of the next word
and get flustered and it takes a while to pick it up again. I don't seem to
be able to copy letters AND be working out what the word could be at the
same time. (The XYL says it's because men can only do one thing at a time,
women can multi-task...)

It's easier copying on the air because the actual vocabulary used in most
contacts is quite limited and you recognize words like like NAME, QTH, RST
and so on. But I can get thrown if someone has a QTH I've never heard of. I
stick to contests or working DX where the exchange is predictable. I'm
afraid to return to a CQ, never mind call CQ myself, in case I get someone
who wants to chat and I can't follow the conversation.

-
Julian, G4ILO  K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392
G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com
Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf

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Re: [Elecraft] k2 test rx v.poor

2008-03-28 Thread TF3KX

Hello, Chris:

I have seen occasional references to low sensitivity of the K2 during
construction, and the reasons may vary.  During the ongoing construction of
my own K2 (#6425) I had similar symptoms as you have, and finally found out
that U12 was bad.  I started a thread on this on 17-March, and you may check
out if the symptoms of your unit, and the measurements, are the same as I
had.  Incidentally, I received all kinds of suggestions to cure the problem,
except the correct one - replacing U12.  So, I wonder how prone these chips
are to failing...

If you come to the point of removing U12, it may not be straightforward.  I
had  been given the advice of cutting the chip leads, and then solder each
foot individually out of the board.  In my case this did not work out
successfully, so finally I simply desoldered each pin using a vacuum pump as
far as I could.  When all of the pins were reasonably solder free I used
long nose pliers to loosen each foot in its hole (from the board bottom
side) while keeping the remaining solder molten with my soldering iron. 
This way I was able to loosen up all eight feet in the mounting holes and
then pull the chip out of its place.

73 - Kristinn, TF3KX  http://radio.tf3kx.googlepages.com


Chris-584 wrote:
 
 hi im at the stage with k2 sno 6436 where i have done alignment  test
 part 2
 pll,vco,bfo, all tested ok with good ranges. vfo linearization ok, but
 next
 to no audio noise in my headphones on recive (audio side tone good and
 strong on test)
 if i send some v,low rf from my old icom on 40m i can hear it but verry
 week.rf pre amp
 makes it a little better .att kills it. if i have some low  rf at 5.915mhz
 on a wire and put it neer 
 u11 or u12 i can hear the signal verry strong. neer to q22 its week agc,
 fast/slow/off
 has no effect, could this be down to u4 on control board its out put is
 7.55v i am
 waiting for a new one from elecraft my last 3 k2's worked like a dream i
 would
 be happy to recive any help thanks chris g0wfh
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[Elecraft] K3 has been sold

2008-03-28 Thread AD9P

Thanks for the response.
I have received many emails asking why I have sold the K3.
We are about to retire, and have purchased a RV . For the next year are two
we plan on being full time RVer's.  As soon as we are tied of traveling ,
the first thing I will do is order another K3.  It is a notch above anything
that I have used. 
Thanks
Al
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Re: [Elecraft] power troubles

2008-03-28 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:54:06 -0400, WB2ZAB wrote:

here is the situation: I hold xmit to tune the ameritron al 1200 to  
1400 watts.Then when  I key the mike all i am getting is 300 watts  
out. i hold tune again and it is showing hi power.

help pse!
[snip]

Some questions/things to check:

Are you just keying the mic without speaking into it?

Have you tried whistling into the mic?

Are you using a dummy load?

Comments:

If you are using a non peak reading watt meter you will not see a full 1400w on
the watt meter.  What you will see is the average power output which could be
considerably less than the key down on tune output.  Whistling into the mic
should give you the same reading as your tuning output unless you have the mic
gain too low.

You may have the mic gain too low.

Don't try to get the watt meter to read 144 watts when you speak into the mic
unless the meter is a peak reading meter.  If it's not a peak reading watt meter
and you drive the amp on speech to 1400 watts on the meter you may damage the
amp, and you will surely be transmitting more than the legal limit (1500w PEP).

If I'm assuming that your level of expertise in using an amplifier and watt
meter, please forgive me.

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