Re: [Elecraft] 6 khz cw question

2008-04-13 Thread G3YMC



n4lq wrote:
 
 I understand how to use the menus. Let me restate.
  The problem isWhen you do have the 6 khz filter engaged for cw, your 
 DSP filter won't go wider than 2.8 therefore you can't listen to 6 khz 
 bandwidth. What's up with that? It works find in SSB mode but not CW..
 
 Steve Ellington
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 

Why do you want a 6kHz bandwidth in CW? Most of us would find listening to
CW with a pitch of that pretty well impossible. Or maybe you are using it
with your PC soundcard with programs like CW Skimmer? (of which I have
strong views which I won't repeat here...). Here I never use a filter any
wider than 400Hz on CW, except very occasionally 1kHz in contests so I here
people calling off channel. In normal use there really is no need for
anything wider.

73 Dave G3YMC

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RE: [Elecraft] 6 khz cw question

2008-04-13 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Dave,

Listening 6 kHz wide is fine if you listen up to 3 kHz UP AND DOWN your
frequency. (So you might have a station on zero beat freq, who cares)
Being an ex R/O used to listening on 500 kHz, this was normal operation.

73
Arie PA3A


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Why do you want a 6kHz bandwidth in CW? Most of us would find listening
to CW with a pitch of that pretty well impossible. Or maybe you are
using it with your PC soundcard with programs like CW Skimmer? (of which
I have strong views which I won't repeat here...). Here I never use a
filter any wider than 400Hz on CW, except very occasionally 1kHz in
contests so I here people calling off channel. In normal use there
really is no need for anything wider.

73 Dave G3YMC

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[Elecraft] K2 SSB adapter problem

2008-04-13 Thread Lennart

After I installed the K2 SSB adapter I get half or less power on all bands
except 30 meter. On 20 almost nothing. SWR low through SGC239. Removed
adapter and everything worked normal. Put the adapter back in and power is
back to low level. It behaves like the SWR suddenly increased or SWR sense
acts up.

I checked voltages on the adapter and I have some levels way out of spec. T1
and T2 0 ohms on all windings.

13,5 volts PS, 0.1W, LSB 80m, FL1, TX from dot on paddle. My meter is
probably shows .03v low

RX  TX
U1-15   0.005.86a bit low
U1-16   5.963.052.5 volts below spec
U1-17   5.964.12
U1-25   0.001.43

U2-50.470.47
U2-65.435.43
U2-85.963.05

I guess it comes from the U2-8 output being way too low, but I am not sure
why. Same U2-8 levels on all bands, even on 30 where the otput is OK on
tune. 

Everything looks OK on the adapter. 

73 
Lennart
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[Elecraft] Need MARS info for K2 construction

2008-04-13 Thread Kenneth Shock, N7SZ

Hello!

I am Ken, N7SZ, from Spokane, Washington. I just started construction  
on my K2 (s/n 6459). I also have a KSB2 and KNB2 waiting to be built.


I am in the process of joining NMC MARS, and would like to know how to  
properly assemble/adjust my K2 for use on MARS freq. How do I go about  
getting this info? NMC MARS only has 90 days of training, so I wanted  
to make sure and have the K2 ready to go when I am issued my MARS  
call.


Thanks and 73,

Ken
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Re: [Elecraft] SDU5600 Spectrum Scope Panadapter

2008-04-13 Thread R. Kevin Stover

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I thought all the AOR pan adapters were designed for a 10Mhz IF.
The K3 IF is 8.215Mhz.

Paul_Mayo wrote:
| Has anyone tried to connect a AOR  SDU 5600 to the K3,
| Do you think it would work??
|
| 73 Paul  W4MAY


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 SSB adapter problem

2008-04-13 Thread Don Wilhelm

Lennart,

If you have transmit power problems in CW mode or TUNE, then the only 
part of the SSB opyion board that could cause that condition is Q1, Q2, 
Q3 and the associated components.


Look at the KSB2 board schematic near the bottom and you will see which 
components need to be checked.


There is no explanation for a band dependency related to the KSB2 
board.  It operates at the BFO and IF paths.


73,
Don W3FPR

Lennart wrote:

After I installed the K2 SSB adapter I get half or less power on all bands
except 30 meter. On 20 almost nothing. SWR low through SGC239. Removed
adapter and everything worked normal. Put the adapter back in and power is
back to low level. It behaves like the SWR suddenly increased or SWR sense
acts up.

I checked voltages on the adapter and I have some levels way out of spec. T1
and T2 0 ohms on all windings.

13,5 volts PS, 0.1W, LSB 80m, FL1, TX from dot on paddle. My meter is
probably shows .03v low

RX  TX
U1-15   0.005.86a bit low
U1-16   5.963.052.5 volts below spec
U1-17   5.964.12
U1-25   0.001.43

U2-50.470.47
U2-65.435.43
U2-85.963.05

I guess it comes from the U2-8 output being way too low, but I am not sure
why. Same U2-8 levels on all bands, even on 30 where the otput is OK on
tune. 

Everything looks OK on the adapter. 

73 
Lennart
  

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 SSB adapter problem

2008-04-13 Thread n0jrn

Lernart:

I had a similar problem with my K2  #6272.   Gary sent me a response 
stating that T1  and  T2  could cause

a low power situation on the higher bands   IF   they were
switch or the turn count was wrong or bad solders 

I checked all mine and found that I had all turns correct,  they were in the 
correct location and all solder joints were good.


I expanded on what Gary told me and started checking all related components. 
I found I had the wrong value in R10.It was suppose to be 100 ohm and I 
had put a 10K ohm resistor in that spot.


Correcting the resistor error corrected the problem.

Check you schematic and check all the components related to T1  and 
T2..


YMMV  but it's worth a look.

72   Jerry   N0JRN

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After I installed the K2 SSB adapter I get half or less power on all


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 SSB adapter problem

2008-04-13 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jerry,

T1 and T2 are not in the path for CW or TUNE, so they are not high on 
the list of suspects for Lernart's situation.


OTOH, if the low power is on SSB (but CW and TUNE are good), then T1 and 
T2 would be the prime suspects.


73,
Don W3FPR

n0jrn wrote:

Lernart:

I had a similar problem with my K2  #6272.   Gary sent me a 
response stating that T1  and  T2  could cause

a low power situation on the higher bands   IF   they were
switch or the turn count was wrong or bad solders 

I checked all mine and found that I had all turns correct,  they were 
in the correct location and all solder joints were good.


I expanded on what Gary told me and started checking all related 
components. I found I had the wrong value in R10.It was suppose to 
be 100 ohm and I had put a 10K ohm resistor in that spot.


Correcting the resistor error corrected the problem.

Check you schematic and check all the components related to T1  and 
T2..


YMMV  but it's worth a look.

72   Jerry   N0JRN

On 4/13/2008 5:00:20 AM, Lennart ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

After I installed the K2 SSB adapter I get half or less power on all



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Re: [Elecraft] 6 khz cw question

2008-04-13 Thread n4lq

Dave
Why do you want a bandwidth of 2.7khz then? Most of us would also find 
listening to CW with that pitch impossible or annoying. You're missing the 
point here. We open up bandwidth so we can hear things. I would hate to tune 
around the band with a 400Hz filter.
The point here is, a 6kHz crystal is install and selectable from the XFL 
menu so why does it tandem the 2.8kHz DSP? That is simply a bug and 
hopefully it will be fixed soon.

Steve Ellington
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n4lq wrote:


I understand how to use the menus. Let me restate.
 The problem isWhen you do have the 6 khz filter engaged for cw, your
DSP filter won't go wider than 2.8 therefore you can't listen to 6 khz
bandwidth. What's up with that? It works find in SSB mode but not CW..

Steve Ellington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Why do you want a 6kHz bandwidth in CW? Most of us would find listening to
CW with a pitch of that pretty well impossible. Or maybe you are using it
with your PC soundcard with programs like CW Skimmer? (of which I have
strong views which I won't repeat here...). Here I never use a filter any
wider than 400Hz on CW, except very occasionally 1kHz in contests so I 
here

people calling off channel. In normal use there really is no need for
anything wider.

73 Dave G3YMC

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[Elecraft] Out Board PA

2008-04-13 Thread David N.
I picked up the outboard PA/Tuner Kat100/KPA100
in one box. I went to turn on the PA in the K2 But 
All it has is (PA --) I cannot change the -- to on/
off or whatever. Does the Io cable have to hooked up
for those? I am in the middle of modifying My KI02
cable to match the KAT100 Which I assume is the Input
to run the tuner and the amp is this true? Also is
there any docs on doing this anywhere?
Thanks
David KR4OW
K2+100 4320

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[Elecraft] Out Board PA

2008-04-13 Thread wb2srf
From what I recall, the I/O cable needs to be attached between the K2 and
KPA100 before the PA menu changes.

GL 73,
Bob Johansen
WB2SRF SI, NY 
K2 S/N 5622
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RE: [Elecraft] Out Board PA

2008-04-13 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Hi David,

I also have my KPA100 and KAT100 in a separate EC2 enclosure and yes you
have to connect the I/O cable from the K2 to either the KPA100 or KAT100 I/O
ports. After the K2 initiates communication with one of those two modules,
you will be able to turn on the PA option in the K2.

Lyle, KK7P, has a nice web page that describes the process of placing the
KPA100 in a separate enclosure and how to hook it all up.
http://www.kk7p.com/k2kpa100.html 
Since you have the KIO2 module in your K2, the bottom end of the page will
pertain to your operation.

73,
Dave W8FGU 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David N.
 Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:00 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Out Board PA
 
 I picked up the outboard PA/Tuner Kat100/KPA100
 in one box. I went to turn on the PA in the K2 But
 All it has is (PA --) I cannot change the -- to on/
 off or whatever. Does the Io cable have to hooked up
 for those? I am in the middle of modifying My KI02
 cable to match the KAT100 Which I assume is the Input
 to run the tuner and the amp is this true? Also is
 there any docs on doing this anywhere?
 Thanks
 David KR4OW
 K2+100 4320
 
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[Elecraft] k2 air test

2008-04-13 Thread Chris

hi today i tryed my k2 on the air with my indoor loop ant
i found the 20m band poor but got to work 2 stations
og6n got me a 5/9 report and lz2lp got me a 5/5 report
my k2 is giveing about 10w with a 3ahc gell battery
my mic is a astatic tear drop i did the g3rxq audio
mod on the ssb my k2 sounds good on the air
so now to build the nb and atu soon be ready
for portable working so wheres summer and
good open bands to work dx he he
chris g0wfh k2 sno 6463
k3 sno  123 days to go and counting :-) 
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[Elecraft] KPA100 Output not adjustable

2008-04-13 Thread Michael van Hauten

Hi elecrafters,
since this morning i have a problem with my KPA100. I cannot adjust t  
rf output. In the high mode, i  always have more than 100W with a  
dummy load. In QRP mode, i can adjust .5 to 10w. When i reach the 10w,  
the power goes directly (jumps) to the maximum power of about 100w.  
Any ideas?


Thank you
Michael, DC0ZO

K2#5619, K2#6454
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[Elecraft] Buddipoles and KX1

2008-04-13 Thread Tom Pallen
Does anyone have experience with the Buddipole system? I just ordered 
a KX1 with all the bells and whistles and I'm thinking about adding 
the Buddipole to the order. Any suggestions for alternative, portable 
antenna systems?


Thanks,

Tom (no call sign yet, taking the tests in May)

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 Output not adjustable

2008-04-13 Thread Don Wilhelm

Michael,

At low power settings, does the actual power output go up to over 12 watts?
If so, the diodes in the KPA100 wattmeter have been damaged (likely by a 
lightning induced static).
Replace D16 and D17 in the KPA100 and you should regain power control 
for both high and lo ranges.  To prevent that damage in the future, 
remove or ground your antennas when not in use.


If you do have good power control for the .5 to 10 watt range when the 
KPA100 is also in-line, then you may have a different problem, please 
restate the situation.


73,
Don W3FPR

Michael van Hauten wrote:

Hi elecrafters,
since this morning i have a problem with my KPA100. I cannot adjust t 
rf output. In the high mode, i  always have more than 100W with a 
dummy load. In QRP mode, i can adjust .5 to 10w. When i reach the 10w, 
the power goes directly (jumps) to the maximum power of about 100w. 
Any ideas?


Thank you
Michael, DC0ZO


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Re: [Elecraft] Out Board PA

2008-04-13 Thread Jim Miller
I had a K2 for a while, long story.  It was the 10 watt version and I had
planned to connect it to my Ameritron ALS-500 which I run on my base
station.  It needs only the PTT signal from the radio (available on most
radios) to go to transmit mode.  I'm sure I could have found one on the K2.
It is a 500 watt amp with 100 watts in BUT testing with 10 Watts in gives
160 watts out.  It would have worked fine but do not have the K2 any longer.
You could likely use almost any amp (use the necessary isolation relay so as
not to damage the radio).  K3 on order.

73, Jim

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 Hi David,

 I also have my KPA100 and KAT100 in a separate EC2 enclosure and yes you
 have to connect the I/O cable from the K2 to either the KPA100 or KAT100
I/O
 ports. After the K2 initiates communication with one of those two modules,
 you will be able to turn on the PA option in the K2.

 Lyle, KK7P, has a nice web page that describes the process of placing the
 KPA100 in a separate enclosure and how to hook it all up.
 http://www.kk7p.com/k2kpa100.html
 Since you have the KIO2 module in your K2, the bottom end of the page will
 pertain to your operation.

 73,
 Dave W8FGU

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  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: [Elecraft] Out Board PA
 
  I picked up the outboard PA/Tuner Kat100/KPA100
  in one box. I went to turn on the PA in the K2 But
  All it has is (PA --) I cannot change the -- to on/
  off or whatever. Does the Io cable have to hooked up
  for those? I am in the middle of modifying My KI02
  cable to match the KAT100 Which I assume is the Input
  to run the tuner and the amp is this true? Also is
  there any docs on doing this anywhere?
  Thanks
  David KR4OW
  K2+100 4320
 
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[Elecraft] K1

2008-04-13 Thread Cory Golob
I acquired a K1 last week. The rig drifts terribly. I had it set to 7050.5 and 
answered a CQ, by the time I sent DE N1URA K the rig was already on 7050.3 . I 
left the rig sitting for a while and when I came back to it, the display read 
E42. Any ideas on how to correct this??

Thank you
-Cory
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Re: [Elecraft] K1

2008-04-13 Thread Don Wilhelm

Cory,

The E42 error means there is something wrong with the VFO - most likely 
a bad solder joint or an improperly tinned toroid lead.  Check the 
schematic to determine the components in the VFO and examine them 
carefully, resoldering where necessary.


Once you find the problem source, I would believe it may also correct 
the drift.  The K1 does not normally drift more than a few Hz.


73,
Don W3FPR

Cory Golob wrote:

I acquired a K1 last week. The rig drifts terribly. I had it set to 7050.5 and 
answered a CQ, by the time I sent DE N1URA K the rig was already on 7050.3 . I 
left the rig sitting for a while and when I came back to it, the display read 
E42. Any ideas on how to correct this??

Thank you

  

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[Elecraft] FDIM Speaker is named 'Amateur Of The Year 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Steve, G4GXL
Last year at FDIM we had Lyle Johnson KK7P as one of the seminar
speakers just two weeks after the Elecraft K3 was announced.

This year we have another presenter in the news.
Ward Silver N0AX has just been named 'Amateur Of The Year 2008'.
He will be delivering the opening presentation at the FDIM seminars entitled -
   How To Dance With The Elephants - QRP Contesting Strategy and Style

FDIM details -  http://www.fdim.qrparci.org

Amateur Of The Year info -   http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2008/04/11/10050/

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[Elecraft] WA3WSJ's QRP AT PA Hike

2008-04-13 Thread Edward R. Breneiser
Hello all,

I'll start my AT hike in Duncannon, PA and hike into Boiling Springs, PA
four days later. Keep an ear out for me in the mornings and evenings.
Here's my hike schedule:

Friday, 4/25:  Cove Mtn Shelter on AT
Sat.,   4/26:  Darlington Shelter on AT
Sun.,   4/27:  US Rt.11 Motel
Monday, 4/28:  Boiling Springs, PA

I should be on the air around 8am and 7pm EDT. Look for me around
14.060, 10.116 and 7.030mhz. If you work me, I'll qsl to you with my
custom Kangaroo Ed QSL Card- hi!

http://www.wa3wsj.homestead.com

72,
Kangaroo Ed, WA3WSJ

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[Elecraft] Not Elecraft - PA3AKE High Pergormance Front End Upgrade

2008-04-13 Thread Giancarlo Moda
Hi all,

for those of you interested on high performance analog
front-end I have the pleasure to inform that Martein,
PA3AKE, has just updated his website.

Please look at the following:
o Front-end Board 
„X  H-Mode Mixer 
„X  Roofing Filters 
„X SSB 
„X CW

in particular the release of the front-end board with
additional 500Hz CW roofing filter. This update is
complete with schematics, part list, PCB artwork and
last but not least extensive performance measurements.


Enjoy the visit and reading

73

Gian
I7SWX


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RE: [Elecraft] Out Board PA

2008-04-13 Thread Paul






I also have my KPA100 and KAT100 in a separate EC2 enclosure and yes you
have to connect the I/O cable from the K2 to either the KPA100 or KAT100 I/O
ports. After the K2 initiates communication with one of those two modules,
you will be able to turn on the PA option in the K2.

Lyle, KK7P, has a nice web page that describes the process of placing the
KPA100 in a separate enclosure and how to hook it all up.
http://www.kk7p.com/k2kpa100.html


More pictures of the EC2: www.n4lcd.com/k2




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[Elecraft] Re: Not Elecraft - PA3AKE High Pergormance Front End Upgrade

2008-04-13 Thread Giancarlo Moda
link: http://www.xs4all.nl/~martein/pa3ake/hmode/

73

Gian


--- Giancarlo Moda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 for those of you interested on high performance
 analog
 front-end I have the pleasure to inform that
 Martein,
 PA3AKE, has just updated his website.
 
 Please look at the following:
 o Front-end Board 
 „XH-Mode Mixer 
 „XRoofing Filters 
 „X   SSB 
 „X   CW
 
 in particular the release of the front-end board
 with
 additional 500Hz CW roofing filter. This update is
 complete with schematics, part list, PCB artwork and
 last but not least extensive performance
 measurements.
 
 
 Enjoy the visit and reading
 
 73
 
 Gian
 I7SWX
 
 
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[Elecraft] circular locking nuts for the paddle and key inputs on k3

2008-04-13 Thread stephen pearce
Hi
In my kit there were no circular locking nuts for these 2 phone inputs
.. unlike the phones jack on the front ..
are there supposed to be locking nuts on these 2 inputs
Tnx
de zl1any


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RE: [Elecraft] circular locking nuts for the paddle and key inputs on k3

2008-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
No. 

Only the front panel phones jack has a nut.

Ron AC7AC

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k3


Hi
In my kit there were no circular locking nuts for these 2 phone inputs ..
unlike the phones jack on the front .. are there supposed to be locking nuts
on these 2 inputs Tnx de zl1any


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Whangarei

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[Elecraft] Tx error message

2008-04-13 Thread John Trager
Hello lucky K3 owners,

I'm getting a ERR TxF message when trying to set the Tx Gain!  Can anyone tell 
me what I'm doing wrong?


Thanks,

John
N2KBE
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Re: [Elecraft] Buddipoles and KX1

2008-04-13 Thread Romanchik Dan
I have a KX-1 and a BuddiStick, although I haven't used them together  
yet. If you have the bulit-in antenna tuner, then there's no need to  
spend all that money on a BuddiStick. I have had success with the 28- 
ft. wire with four radials as described in the tuner manual.


Last time I went portable with it,  I built a 66-ft. doublet fed with  
twisted pair and strung it up between two tree limbs about 15 feet  
high. This antenna tuned up easily and worked really great.


My simplistic theory is that the more wire you can get into the air,  
the better an antenna will work. The BuddiPole is a well-designed and  
built antenna, but I would think that my 66-foot doublet has got to  
be more efficientand much cheaper, too!


73!

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On Apr 13, 2008, at Apr 13, 12:08 PM, Tom Pallen wrote:
Does anyone have experience with the Buddipole system? I just  
ordered a KX1 with all the bells and whistles and I'm thinking  
about adding the Buddipole to the order. Any suggestions for  
alternative, portable antenna systems?


Thanks,

Tom (no call sign yet, taking the tests in May)

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RE: [Elecraft] k2 air test

2008-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Sounds great Chris

Here in the Northwest USA we already had summer. It was yesterday with
sunshine and temps near 70F. 

Back to the wet stuff today.

The next sunspot peak will be a bit slower in coming but, hopefully, will
last a bit longer. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

hi today i tryed my k2 on the air with my indoor loop ant
i found the 20m band poor but got to work 2 stations
og6n got me a 5/9 report and lz2lp got me a 5/5 report
my k2 is giveing about 10w with a 3ahc gell battery
my mic is a astatic tear drop i did the g3rxq audio
mod on the ssb my k2 sounds good on the air
so now to build the nb and atu soon be ready
for portable working so wheres summer and
good open bands to work dx he he
chris g0wfh k2 sno 6463
k3 sno  123 days to go and counting :-) 
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RE: [Elecraft] Tx error message

2008-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Have you enabled either the 2.7 or 2.8 filter (whichever one you are using)
for CW and SSB transmit? 

Ron AC7AC

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Hello lucky K3 owners,

I'm getting a ERR TxF message when trying to set the Tx Gain!  Can anyone
tell me what I'm doing wrong?


Thanks,

John
N2KBE
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[Elecraft] XFIL button K3

2008-04-13 Thread John Trager
Why is it that when I tap the XFIL button on K3, doesn't it always go to the 
next filter?  For instance, if I turn the rig off and then back on, it just 
continues to stay at FL1 when I push the XFIL button.

I I do anything with the config menu, then it seems to work...


Thanks,

John
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[Elecraft] (no subject)

2008-04-13 Thread Laurie Landry




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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] : Solder issue with the KBPF3 module

2008-04-13 Thread ab2tc

I have just received the KBPF3 module for an upgrade and finding that one
lead is broken also. Frankly this is a failure waiting to happen. The toroid
is not secured to the board in any way, the leads are very thin (#28) and
there was no protection against damage the way the board was shipped in a
zip-loc bag. The only way to repair this  would be to unwind one turn and
join the magnet wire with something in my junk wire collection. This I do
not want to do so I have E-mailed Elecraft for a replacement inductor. 

73
Knut - AB2TC


Raymond METZGER wrote:
 
 Hi Elecrafters,
 
  
 
 I am building my K3 kit and currently installing the KBPF3 module.
 Unfortunately, one lead of the inductor L18 on this module is broken. 
 
 Can I use a regular  40/60 tin/lead solder to repair this broken lead, or
 is
 it necessary to use lead free solder ?
 
  
 
 Raymond, F4FNT 
 
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RE: [Elecraft] Audio problem in WPX SSB

2008-04-13 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Andy, 

   Here is what happens:  For phone contesting, I my software 
 CQPWIN, which plays wav files for DVK usage (as do other 
 programs).  I run the output in such a way that when the dvk 
 is playing, the mic is shut off, but the audio from the computer 
 goes into the mic connector of the radio.  As soon as it stops 
 playing, it disconnects the computer and reconnects the 
 microphone.  I run it from the computer into a W2IHY iBox for 
 isolation, and the output to the radio.  The Mic is a Heil 
 pro-set.

With the K3, the messages play fine, but after one finishes, 
 if I use the mic, the radio starts out at lower power and takes 
 2-4 seconds to build back up to high power.  This is the same 
 whether using the front or rear input and whether using high or 
 low gain. 

After working in this quite a bit over the weekend the problem 
is related to the K3 microphone AGC.  It appears that levels 
from the microphone and DVK must be extremely well balanced - 
much more closely balanced than with any other radio or the 
stronger input will cause the microphone AGC to reduce the 
mic gain and the weaker input will be much weaker.  The 2-4 
second delay seems to be related to an extremely long ACG time 
constant (probably intended to prevent the ACG from acting like 
a clipper). 

The problem is made worse - at least in my case - because the 
ALC indicator provides only 5 very small, difficult to see, 
bars for adjustment and the steps are rather course (6 dB 
per division).  This means that the maximum spread between 
the two inputs can be almost 12 dB (!) even when the display 
only shows a slight flicker between the two adjacent bars 
(e.g., the mic is barely triggering the 5th bar and the DVK 
is hitting the sixth bar hard).  

After some thought there are several ways (a combination of 
all is best) to help the situation: 

1) reduce the time constant (AGC hang) to about .5 second 
   and dump any gain reduction when the PTT is released. 

2) Use more of the ALC display to get better resolution. 
   There are 12 bars in that part of the display but only 
   six are used (with the sixth indicating overdrive).  At 
   least expand the good range to seven (or eight) bars 
   to coincide with the right edge of the ALC bracket. 

3) Make the ALC display response logarithmic (like a VU 
   meter).  Instead of 5 x 6 dB or 30 dB total ... the same 
   total range could be displayed with the first bar = -20 dB, 
   the second = -10 dB, the third = -7 dB, the fourth = -5 dB, 
   the fifth = -3 dB, the sixth -1 dB, the seventh = 0 dB, 
   the eighth +1 dB, the ninth +3 dB and the 10th +6 dB.  
   Setting/matching levels would be MUCH easier.  It's no 
   accident that professional recording and broadcasting have 
   used similar scales for decades. 

4) Give the ALC meter a dual mode display - showing both short 
   duration peak and average (the current ALC) would help.  
   Alternatively, any peak hold dot above the ALC region 
   could show gain reduction by the mic AGC (and warn about 
   overdriving the input). 

5) Provide a set-up mode that disables mic AGC - this 
   will allow balancing sources (either FP/RP/Line or 
   multiple inputs on an external mixer) without chasing 
   the effects of the mic AGC.  

I understand there has been some work on the mic AGC in the 
firmware currently in test and that may help.  However, this 
area needs to be more user friendly.  As it is, I can see 
significant issues when using the K3 in a multi-operator 
setting where the relative levels need to be reset completely 
for every operator change! 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Faber
 Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 12:08 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wayne burdick
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Audio problem in WPX SSB
 
 
 Wayne,
   A peculiar audio situation arose using my K3 in Aruba in 
 WPX SSB.  It 
 works the same way at home, and isn't a problem I've ever had 
 with any of 
 many other radios that I've used in the same contest configuration.
 
   Here is what happens:  For phone contesting, I my software 
 CQPWIN, which 
 plays wav files for DVK usage (as do other programs).  I run 
 the output in 
 such a way that when the dvk is playing, the mic is shut off, 
 but the audio 
 from the computer goes into the mic connector of the radio.  
 As soon as it 
 stops playing, it disconnects the computer and reconnects the 
 microphone. 
 I run it from the computer into a W2IHY iBox for isolation, 
 and the output 
 to the radio.  The Mic is a Heil pro-set.
 
   With the K3, the messages play fine, but after one 
 finishes, if I use the 
 mic, the radio starts out at lower power and takes 2-4 
 seconds to build back 
 up to high power.  This is the same whether using the front 
 or rear input 
 and whether using high or low gain. Also, the W2IHY box has 
 to be turned up 
 to a level that 

RE: [Elecraft] ALC Setting was (Audio problem in WPX SSB)

2008-04-13 Thread Brett Howard
I agree that corresponding with the end of the ALC bracket makes sense.
I remember looking at the pictures of the radio after it was mentioned
that the 6th bar was overdrive and I was thinking it odd that the
overdrive point didn't correspond to the end of the ALC brackets.  My
Kenwood has a line that tells one where the ALC kicks in.  It just seems
like that type of operation makes intuitive sense where as the 5 bars
thing is something that one would have to read the manual/reflector to
know.  

On Sun, 2008-04-13 at 21:56 -0400, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
 Andy, 
 
Here is what happens:  For phone contesting, I my software 
  CQPWIN, which plays wav files for DVK usage (as do other 
  programs).  I run the output in such a way that when the dvk 
  is playing, the mic is shut off, but the audio from the computer 
  goes into the mic connector of the radio.  As soon as it stops 
  playing, it disconnects the computer and reconnects the 
  microphone.  I run it from the computer into a W2IHY iBox for 
  isolation, and the output to the radio.  The Mic is a Heil 
  pro-set.
 
 With the K3, the messages play fine, but after one finishes, 
  if I use the mic, the radio starts out at lower power and takes 
  2-4 seconds to build back up to high power.  This is the same 
  whether using the front or rear input and whether using high or 
  low gain. 
 
 After working in this quite a bit over the weekend the problem 
 is related to the K3 microphone AGC.  It appears that levels 
 from the microphone and DVK must be extremely well balanced - 
 much more closely balanced than with any other radio or the 
 stronger input will cause the microphone AGC to reduce the 
 mic gain and the weaker input will be much weaker.  The 2-4 
 second delay seems to be related to an extremely long ACG time 
 constant (probably intended to prevent the ACG from acting like 
 a clipper). 
 
 The problem is made worse - at least in my case - because the 
 ALC indicator provides only 5 very small, difficult to see, 
 bars for adjustment and the steps are rather course (6 dB 
 per division).  This means that the maximum spread between 
 the two inputs can be almost 12 dB (!) even when the display 
 only shows a slight flicker between the two adjacent bars 
 (e.g., the mic is barely triggering the 5th bar and the DVK 
 is hitting the sixth bar hard).  
 
 After some thought there are several ways (a combination of 
 all is best) to help the situation: 
 
 1) reduce the time constant (AGC hang) to about .5 second 
and dump any gain reduction when the PTT is released. 
 
 2) Use more of the ALC display to get better resolution. 
There are 12 bars in that part of the display but only 
six are used (with the sixth indicating overdrive).  At 
least expand the good range to seven (or eight) bars 
to coincide with the right edge of the ALC bracket. 
 
 3) Make the ALC display response logarithmic (like a VU 
meter).  Instead of 5 x 6 dB or 30 dB total ... the same 
total range could be displayed with the first bar = -20 dB, 
the second = -10 dB, the third = -7 dB, the fourth = -5 dB, 
the fifth = -3 dB, the sixth -1 dB, the seventh = 0 dB, 
the eighth +1 dB, the ninth +3 dB and the 10th +6 dB.  
Setting/matching levels would be MUCH easier.  It's no 
accident that professional recording and broadcasting have 
used similar scales for decades. 
 
 4) Give the ALC meter a dual mode display - showing both short 
duration peak and average (the current ALC) would help.  
Alternatively, any peak hold dot above the ALC region 
could show gain reduction by the mic AGC (and warn about 
overdriving the input). 
 
 5) Provide a set-up mode that disables mic AGC - this 
will allow balancing sources (either FP/RP/Line or 
multiple inputs on an external mixer) without chasing 
the effects of the mic AGC.  
 
 I understand there has been some work on the mic AGC in the 
 firmware currently in test and that may help.  However, this 
 area needs to be more user friendly.  As it is, I can see 
 significant issues when using the K3 in a multi-operator 
 setting where the relative levels need to be reset completely 
 for every operator change! 
 
 73, 
 
... Joe, W4TV 
  
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Faber
  Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 12:08 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wayne burdick
  Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: [Elecraft] Audio problem in WPX SSB
  
  
  Wayne,
A peculiar audio situation arose using my K3 in Aruba in 
  WPX SSB.  It 
  works the same way at home, and isn't a problem I've ever had 
  with any of 
  many other radios that I've used in the same contest configuration.
  
Here is what happens:  For phone contesting, I my software 
  CQPWIN, which 
  plays wav files for DVK usage (as do other programs).  I run 
  the output in 
  such a way that when the dvk is 

[Elecraft] First K3 PSK contact

2008-04-13 Thread Mike Scott
I tried the K3 CW interface tonight and answered the CQ of CO6FU/QRP on
PSK31. It was very interesting to be able to hold a conversation with John
using CW on my end and PSK on his. He was 5 watts and I was 50 watts. Anyway
it really works. 
I am glad that I read about sending dit-dit-dah-dah (IM) at the end of my
transmission to make the transmission on my end stop quickly otherwise I
would idle transmit for four seconds.

Mike Scott - AE6WA
Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA)
K3-100 #508/ KX1  #1311


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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for April 13th 14th, 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   Twenty meters was not conducive to radiotelegraphy today.  Total of three 
check ins.  However, one of them was from Curacao.  He reported a temperature 
in the 90s.  But, then on twenty meters I had three folks tell me of the HOT 
temperatures in the Southwest.  One of them was in Carlsbad but the conditions 
were so poor on Dale's signal I was unsure of which Carlsbad.  I've only been 
to the one in New Mexico; hence the Southwestern appellation.  Otherwise John 
and Pete both had 90 degree temperatures in California.  
   Friday it felt that hot here but it was only 72 degrees.  My first day 
without a fire in a very long time.  Today the temperature went back to normal 
and the rains returned.  Tomorrow there will be more snow to contend with but I 
am not going anywhere.  Two daffodils are open; poor things.  I told them not 
to hurry but they think spring should be here.  Hopefully they won't freeze too 
badly over the next two days.  By Wednesday the temperature will be in the 50s 
so they only have two nights of freezing weather to endure.  Most of the other 
buds are a week or more away.
  
   On to the lists =

  On 14050 kHz at 2300z:
K9DMV - Joe - IL - K2 - 5628  QNI #25!!!
PJ2/AB9V - Mike - Curacao, Netherlands Antilles
WB3AAL - Ron - PA - K2 - 1392

  On 7045 kHz at 0200z:
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K2 - 5138* QNI #115 * 
K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422
KT5E - Jay - CO - K3 - 274QNI #85!!!
KL7CW - Rick - AK - KX1 - 798
N7KRT - Jeff - TX - K2 - 5471
K9ZTV - Kent - MO - K3 - 21   QNI #35!!!
K2HYD - Ray - NC - KX1 - 608
W0SZ - Steve - CO - K3 - 176
N6JW - John - CA - K2 - 3290
N5SM - Scott - TX - K2 - 6417
K9DMV - Joe - IL - K2 - 5628 
K6PJV - Dale - NM/CA? - K2 - 5345
KC0UZA - Mike - MO - K2 - 5950
WG7Y - Bob - WY - K1 - 2140

   After reworking the spreadsheet I think I have everything back in order.  I 
had to extend to a new sheet and if you have examined the document available 
for download from ecn.visionseer.com you'll see why.  Now it will last for 
another three years.  Hopefully we will all be here when I have to re-extend 
the sheet!  If there are any errors or propagation reports from those I missed 
please write me.  For all of you who are spending their last few minutes before 
April 15th looking for another deduction: good luck to you!!  

   Until next week stay well,
  73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS  (Net Control Operator 5th Class)



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Re: [Elecraft] Audio problem in WPX SSB

2008-04-13 Thread Andy Faber

Joe,
 Thanks for the very thoughtful analysis.
 I'm very pleased to say that the problem seems to be greatly reduced with 
the latest firmware (1.81/1.63).  I can't tell if it is completely 
eliminated, but it's certainly much reduced.  Lyle, Wayne, what did you do? 
Whatever it is, it seems to have helped greatly.

 73, andy, ae6y
- Original Message - 
From: Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Andy Faber' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'wayne burdick' 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 6:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Audio problem in WPX SSB




Andy,


  Here is what happens:  For phone contesting, I my software
CQPWIN, which plays wav files for DVK usage (as do other
programs).  I run the output in such a way that when the dvk
is playing, the mic is shut off, but the audio from the computer
goes into the mic connector of the radio.  As soon as it stops
playing, it disconnects the computer and reconnects the
microphone.  I run it from the computer into a W2IHY iBox for
isolation, and the output to the radio.  The Mic is a Heil
pro-set.



   With the K3, the messages play fine, but after one finishes,
if I use the mic, the radio starts out at lower power and takes
2-4 seconds to build back up to high power.  This is the same
whether using the front or rear input and whether using high or
low gain.


After working in this quite a bit over the weekend the problem
is related to the K3 microphone AGC.  It appears that levels
from the microphone and DVK must be extremely well balanced -
much more closely balanced than with any other radio or the
stronger input will cause the microphone AGC to reduce the
mic gain and the weaker input will be much weaker.  The 2-4
second delay seems to be related to an extremely long ACG time
constant (probably intended to prevent the ACG from acting like
a clipper).

The problem is made worse - at least in my case - because the
ALC indicator provides only 5 very small, difficult to see,
bars for adjustment and the steps are rather course (6 dB
per division).  This means that the maximum spread between
the two inputs can be almost 12 dB (!) even when the display
only shows a slight flicker between the two adjacent bars
(e.g., the mic is barely triggering the 5th bar and the DVK
is hitting the sixth bar hard).

After some thought there are several ways (a combination of
all is best) to help the situation:

1) reduce the time constant (AGC hang) to about .5 second
  and dump any gain reduction when the PTT is released.

2) Use more of the ALC display to get better resolution.
  There are 12 bars in that part of the display but only
  six are used (with the sixth indicating overdrive).  At
  least expand the good range to seven (or eight) bars
  to coincide with the right edge of the ALC bracket.

3) Make the ALC display response logarithmic (like a VU
  meter).  Instead of 5 x 6 dB or 30 dB total ... the same
  total range could be displayed with the first bar = -20 dB,
  the second = -10 dB, the third = -7 dB, the fourth = -5 dB,
  the fifth = -3 dB, the sixth -1 dB, the seventh = 0 dB,
  the eighth +1 dB, the ninth +3 dB and the 10th +6 dB.
  Setting/matching levels would be MUCH easier.  It's no
  accident that professional recording and broadcasting have
  used similar scales for decades.

4) Give the ALC meter a dual mode display - showing both short
  duration peak and average (the current ALC) would help.
  Alternatively, any peak hold dot above the ALC region
  could show gain reduction by the mic AGC (and warn about
  overdriving the input).

5) Provide a set-up mode that disables mic AGC - this
  will allow balancing sources (either FP/RP/Line or
  multiple inputs on an external mixer) without chasing
  the effects of the mic AGC.

I understand there has been some work on the mic AGC in the
firmware currently in test and that may help.  However, this
area needs to be more user friendly.  As it is, I can see
significant issues when using the K3 in a multi-operator
setting where the relative levels need to be reset completely
for every operator change!

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Faber
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 12:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wayne burdick
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Audio problem in WPX SSB


Wayne,
  A peculiar audio situation arose using my K3 in Aruba in
WPX SSB.  It
works the same way at home, and isn't a problem I've ever had
with any of
many other radios that I've used in the same contest configuration.

  Here is what happens:  For phone contesting, I my software
CQPWIN, which
plays wav files for DVK usage (as do other programs).  I run
the output in
such a way that when the dvk is playing, the mic is shut off,
but the audio
from the computer goes into the mic connector of the radio.
As soon as it
stops playing, it disconnects the computer and reconnects the
microphone.
I run it from the 

Re: [Elecraft] Buddipoles and KX1

2008-04-13 Thread David Cutter
I agree:   The best lengths for a doublet are 44ft and 88ft and multiples 
thereof.  Have a look at Cebick's site.  These lengths avoid nasty tuning 
conditions which can create large voltages and inefficiencies in your 
matching unit.


73

David
G3UNA


- Original Message - 
From: Romanchik Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mailing List Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Buddipoles and KX1


I have a KX-1 and a BuddiStick, although I haven't used them together  yet. 
If you have the bulit-in antenna tuner, then there's no need to  spend all 
that money on a BuddiStick. I have had success with the 28- ft. wire with 
four radials as described in the tuner manual.


Last time I went portable with it,  I built a 66-ft. doublet fed with 
twisted pair and strung it up between two tree limbs about 15 feet  high. 
This antenna tuned up easily and worked really great.


My simplistic theory is that the more wire you can get into the air,  the 
better an antenna will work. The BuddiPole is a well-designed and  built 
antenna, but I would think that my 66-foot doublet has got to  be more 
efficientand much cheaper, too!


73!

Dan KB6NU
--
CW Geek and MI Affiliated Club Coordinator
Read my ham radio blog at http://www.kb6nu.com
LET'S GET MORE KIDS INTO HAM RADIO!




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