Re: [Elecraft] K1 with Issues
Chuck, Make certain you have a dummy load connected to the K1 (it is transmitting) and continually tap the WPM- button to try to lower the power level for the testing that you need to do. Theory: The K1 uses one MCU pin (KEYIN) as an analog input to determine whether the dot paddle, dash paddle or both have been closed. The resistors that determine the 3 levels are on the RF Board. R19, R20, and 2 sections of RP5. The voltage at pins 4 and 5 of RP5 will determine the static voltage of all points in the circuit. What to do: Measure the voltage at pins 4 and 5 of RF Board RP5 and compare with the voltage at Front Panel U1 pin 5. They should be the very close to the same voltage. If not, check the values of R19 and R20 and re-flow the soldering of RP5, R19 and R20. If you had ever attempted to clean the flux from your K1, that could be the cause. If some flux cleaner residue wicked up under the key jack, it can create a leakage path which would explain your problem. The only cure is to remove the key jack and clean both the board area under the jack and the bottom of the key jack. It is conceivable that the key jack itself could have some kind of leakage path inside. To check, you will have to remove the key jack and replace it if necessary. Do the solder re-flow first - a bad connection can work fine for a while, and then fail later after a bit of oxidation occurs. If that does not cure it, remove the key jack and check again with the jack out. Replace the key jack if required. 73, Don W3FPR cstove...@aol.com wrote: > My K1 (sn2450) went together back in Oct 07 without a hitch and has been > working flawlessly ever since. > > A big glitch showed up tonight.? When I pushed the attenuator button it > started transmitting dashes.? That cleared by cycling the power.? I then > tried sending the content of memory 1.? It began sending that message, > stopped, "end" appeared in the display, then started transmitting alternating > dots and dashes.? When locked in transmit, the display blanks out.? Initially > I verified that it was transmitting with another receiver, but now it seems > to have lost output too.? It was hooked up to a resonant antenna or dummy > load, so I wouldn't think the final fried.? I'm running it off a supply at > 13.6VDC.? > > A voltage check of RA3 pin 5 of the MCU shows 5.6V with both dot and dash > contacts open.? When the WPM-/attn button is held the dashes start sending > and the pin 5 voltage drops to 5.0 even? though the contacts are still open. > > I've been awake too long and not much is making sense, so I'm going to call > it a night.? Any ideas or suggestions on where to look would be greatly > appreciated. > > Chuck? K4QS > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.57/2060 - Release Date: 04/15/09 > 06:34:00 > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 PTT RLS
N6KR wrote: "If you switch the amp using PTT, you can adjust the delay from end of RF to PTT release. See the CONFIG:PTT RLS menu entry." According to the latest manual I have downloaded (Rev. D2), PTT RLS has "no effect" in the CW mode. If this has been changed, it is cause for celebration. The lack of detailed information on a PTT "tail" time similar to that provided by the K1EL WinKey is the main reason that I use the latter to key my K3 and (non-QSK) amplifier, rather than using the K3's internal keyer. 73, Chuck NI0C K2/10 s/n 5853 K3/100 s/n 1061 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K1 with Issues
Hi Don, Your comment about using flux cleaner struck a nerve with me.? I didn't have any cleaner at the time of completion and obtained some a while back.? I don't remember exactly when.? I had an idle mind and hands one day and opened up the K1 to spiff things up.? I let it dry for a week and put it back together and it worked fine. The keying misbehaved a little during the previous use of the K1.? I cleaned the paddle contacts and reseated the plug and all seemed well.? Problem solved, or so I thought.? These two events probably relate. At first opportunity I will make the voltage checks and take a look under the key jack. I'll post the results.? Right now I'm off to install an antenna on my Volunteer Fire Departments new utility truck. Thanks. 73,? Chuck K4QS -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm To: cstove...@aol.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 8:47 am Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 with Issues Chuck,? ? Make certain you have a dummy load connected to the K1 (it is transmitting) and continually tap the WPM- button to try to lower the power level for the testing that you need to do.? ? Theory:? The K1 uses one MCU pin (KEYIN) as an analog input to determine whether the dot paddle, dash paddle or both have been closed. The resistors that determine the 3 levels are on the RF Board.? R19, R20, and 2 sections of RP5. The voltage at pins 4 and 5 of RP5 will determine the static voltage of all points in the circuit.? ? What to do:? Measure the voltage at pins 4 and 5 of RF Board RP5 and compare with the voltage at Front Panel U1 pin 5. They should be the very close to the same voltage. If not, check the values of R19 and R20 and re-flow the soldering of RP5, R19 and R20.? ? If you had ever attempted to clean the flux from your K1, that could be the cause. If some flux cleaner residue wicked up under the key jack, it can create a leakage path which would explain your problem. The only cure is to remove the key jack and clean both the board area under the jack and the bottom of the key jack.? ? It is conceivable that the key jack itself could have some kind of leakage path inside. To check, you will have to remove the key jack and replace it if necessary.? ? Do the solder re-flow first - a bad connection can work fine for a while, and then fail later after a bit of oxidation occurs. If that does not cure it, remove the key jack and check again with the jack out. Replace the key jack if required.? ? 73,? Don W3FPR? ? cstove...@aol.com wrote:? > My K1 (sn2450) went together back in Oct 07 without a hitch and has been > working flawlessly ever since.? >? > A big glitch showed up tonight.? When I pushed the attenuator button it > started transmitting dashes.? That cleared by cycling the power.? I then > tried sending the content of memory 1.? It began sending that message, > stopped, "end" appeared in the display, then started transmitting alternating > dots and dashes.? When locked in transmit, the display blanks out.? Initially > I verified that it was transmitting with another receiver, but now it seems > to have lost output too.? It was hooked up to a resonant antenna or dummy > load, so I wouldn't think the final fried.? I'm running it off a supply at > 13.6VDC.? >? > A voltage check of RA3 pin 5 of the MCU shows 5.6V with both dot and dash > contacts open.? When the WPM-/attn button is held the dashes start sending > and the pin 5 voltage drops to 5.0 even? though the contacts are still open.? >? > I've been awake too long and not much is making sense, so I'm going to call > it a night.? Any ideas or suggestions on where to look would be greatly > appreciated.? >? > Chuck? K4QS > __? > Elecraft mailing list? > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft? > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm? > Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.net? >? > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net? > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html? > ? >? >? > No virus found in this incoming message.? > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.57/2060 - Release Date: 04/15/09 > 06:34:00? >? > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT RLS
Chuck, I don't recall the exact release timing, RF will always cease *before* the drop of KEYOUT , so the amp relay should still be engaged when RF ceases. That is true for both PTT and QSK. Unless you can create a relay that drops out before its coil voltage is removed, I cannot ever see a problem here. 73, Don W3FPR ni0c wrote: > N6KR wrote: > > "If you switch the amp using PTT, you can adjust the delay from end of > RF to PTT release. See the CONFIG:PTT RLS menu entry." > > > According to the latest manual I have downloaded (Rev. D2), PTT RLS has > "no effect" in the CW mode. > > If this has been changed, it is cause for celebration. The lack of detailed > information on a PTT "tail" time similar to that provided by the K1EL WinKey > is the main reason that I use the latter to key my K3 and (non-QSK) > amplifier, rather than using the K3's internal keyer. > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K1 with Issues
Chuck, Flux cleaners are *not* recommended for that very reason. The flux residue by itself is non-conductive, but when combined with a cleaner, it can create high resistance (leakage) paths unless it is completely removed. Flushing an area with cleaner is almost certain to cause trouble, and can result in 'mysterious behaviors' that are hard to track down and expensive repairs. If a builder finds a need to remove the flux, it is best done using a cotton swab (Q-Tip) and denatured alcohol or rubbing alcohol working only in small areas at a time. 73, Don W3FPR cstove...@aol.com wrote: > Hi Don, > > Your comment about using flux cleaner struck a nerve with me.? I didn't have > any cleaner at the time of completion and obtained some a while back.? I > don't remember exactly when.? I had an idle mind and hands one day and opened > up the K1 to spiff things up.? I let it dry for a week and put it back > together and it worked fine. > > The keying misbehaved a little during the previous use of the K1.? I cleaned > the paddle contacts and reseated the plug and all seemed well.? Problem > solved, or so I thought.? These two events probably relate. > > At first opportunity I will make the voltage checks and take a look under the > key jack. I'll post the results.? Right now I'm off to install an antenna on > my Volunteer Fire Departments new utility truck. > > Thanks. > > 73,? Chuck K4QS > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K1 with Issues
I read Chuck's description of his problem, and I thought, "What in the world?" Don Wilhelm deserves a round of applause for this diagnosis. Peter N8MHD On 4/16/09, cstove...@aol.com wrote: > > > Hi Don, > > Your comment about using flux cleaner struck a nerve with me.? I didn't > have any cleaner at the time of completion and obtained some a while back.? > I don't remember exactly when.? I had an idle mind and hands one day and > opened up the K1 to spiff things up.? I let it dry for a week and put it > back together and it worked fine. > > The keying misbehaved a little during the previous use of the K1.? I > cleaned the paddle contacts and reseated the plug and all seemed well.? > Problem solved, or so I thought.? These two events probably relate. > > At first opportunity I will make the voltage checks and take a look under > the key jack. I'll post the results.? Right now I'm off to install an > antenna on my Volunteer Fire Departments new utility truck. > > Thanks. > > 73,? Chuck K4QS > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Don Wilhelm > To: cstove...@aol.com > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Sent: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 8:47 am > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 with Issues > > > > > > > > > > Chuck,? > ? > > Make certain you have a dummy load connected to the K1 (it is > transmitting) and continually tap the WPM- button to try to lower the > power level for the testing that you need to do.? > ? > > Theory:? > > The K1 uses one MCU pin (KEYIN) as an analog input to determine whether > the dot paddle, dash paddle or both have been closed. The resistors > that determine the 3 levels are on the RF Board.? > > R19, R20, and 2 sections of RP5. The voltage at pins 4 and 5 of RP5 > will determine the static voltage of all points in the circuit.? > ? > > What to do:? > > Measure the voltage at pins 4 and 5 of RF Board RP5 and compare with the > voltage at Front Panel U1 pin 5. They should be the very close to the > same voltage. If not, check the values of R19 and R20 and re-flow the > soldering of RP5, R19 and R20.? > ? > > If you had ever attempted to clean the flux from your K1, that could be > the cause. If some flux cleaner residue wicked up under the key jack, > it can create a leakage path which would explain your problem. The only > cure is to remove the key jack and clean both the board area under the > jack and the bottom of the key jack.? > ? > > It is conceivable that the key jack itself could have some kind of > leakage path inside. To check, you will have to remove the key jack and > replace it if necessary.? > ? > > Do the solder re-flow first - a bad connection can work fine for a > while, and then fail later after a bit of oxidation occurs. If that > does not cure it, remove the key jack and check again with the jack > out. Replace the key jack if required.? > ? > > 73,? > > Don W3FPR? > ? > > cstove...@aol.com wrote:? > > > My K1 (sn2450) went together back in Oct 07 without a hitch and has been > working flawlessly ever since.? > > >? > > > A big glitch showed up tonight.? When I pushed the attenuator button it > started transmitting dashes.? That cleared by cycling the power.? I then > tried sending the content of memory 1.? It began sending that message, > stopped, "end" appeared in the display, then started transmitting > alternating dots and dashes.? When locked in transmit, the display blanks > out.? Initially I verified that it was transmitting with another receiver, > but now it seems to have lost output too.? It was hooked up to a resonant > antenna or dummy load, so I wouldn't think the final fried.? I'm running it > off a supply at 13.6VDC.? > >? > > > A voltage check of RA3 pin 5 of the MCU shows 5.6V with both dot and dash > contacts open.? When the WPM-/attn button is held the dashes start sending > and the pin 5 voltage drops to 5.0 even? though the contacts are still > open.? > > >? > > > I've been awake too long and not much is making sense, so I'm going to > call it a night.? Any ideas or suggestions on where to look would be greatly > appreciated.? > > >? > > > Chuck? K4QS > > __? > > > Elecraft mailing list? > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft? > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm? > > > Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.net? > > >? > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net? > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html? > > > ? > > >? > > >? > > > No virus found in this incoming message.? > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.57/2060 - Release Date: > 04/15/09 06:34:00? > > >? > > > > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT RLS
W3FPR wrote: > Unless you can create a relay that drops out before its coil voltage is > removed, I cannot ever see a problem here. > Don, the problem (solved by the K1EL PTT output, with its programmable PTT "lead" and "tail" times) is excessive relay chatter in non-QSK CW operations. For example, I have the WinKey programmed for 20 ms lead and 180 ms tail times, which provides smooth operation (no amp relay dropout between words) at the speeds I normally operate. I haven't tried keying my amp yet using the K3 PTT simply because I wasn't aware of a programmable "tail" time. BTW, I just checked the PTT RLS feature (I'm using the latest Beta FW, 3.10), but the dial ranges from 0 to 30 only-- I presume this is in milliseconds.) 73, Chuck NI0C __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3s in the Field & Beta 3.10
For those of you who plan on taking the K3 to Field Day or to similar portable station events, I highly recommend that you take advantage of one of Wayne's latest options in Beta 3.10 - VOX defaults to OFF upon K3 rig turn-on. That will eliminate the problem we encountered at the Halifax ARC at FD 2008 where, while one team was putting the CW station HF antenna together, another team was working on the radio/computer logging end of the RF transmission path. Someone who was unfamiliar with the K3 innocently booted up a computer attached to #095 which had just been turned ON with VOX still on from previous use. The guys at the antenna end were not impressed when the K3 - with no-one touching it or the paddles - started transmitting pulses at full power. No-one was hurt and no equipment was damaged and we did not cook our MFJ antenna analyzer, but the potential was there for sure. Anyone who has gone through a FD exercise will understand that the normal operating discipline that we all maintain in our own fixed stations, where of course none of us would ever allow this to happen (!), sometimes breaks down. Thanks, Elecraft, for fixing this safety issue. 73, Gary, VE1RGB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT RLS
Chuck, OK - I was responding to the original stated concern that RF might still be present when the amp relay drops (at least that is how I interpreted the original question) - and that is what will not happen. As far as not having the amp relay drop out between words at 30 WPM, that is a different matter. Most QSK operators like to hear between words (or some even characters), and that would not happen if the amp relay is still engaged (so they use fast relays or QSK options on the amp). Semi-QSK is available on the K3 and the delay is adjustable using the DELAY knob on the front panel (see the manual page 30). Remember that TEST mode is available and handy for setting the timing - KEYOUT and everything else works just like real transmit except that no RF is generated. So in summary, TX DLY adjusts the leading delay and in semi-QSK the DELAY knob adjusts the tail. You can have that type operation using the internal keyer in the K3 and devote the WinKey to use with the computer based apps. 73, Don W3FPR ni0c wrote: > W3FPR wrote: > > > >> Unless you can create a relay that drops out before its coil voltage is >> removed, I cannot ever see a problem here. >> >> > > Don, the problem (solved by the K1EL PTT > output, with its programmable PTT "lead" and > "tail" times) is excessive relay chatter in non-QSK > CW operations. For example, I have the WinKey > programmed for 20 ms lead and 180 ms tail times, > which provides smooth operation (no amp relay > dropout between words) at the speeds I normally > operate. > > I haven't tried keying my amp yet using the K3 PTT > simply because I wasn't aware of a programmable > "tail" time. BTW, I just checked the PTT RLS feature > (I'm using the latest Beta FW, 3.10), but the dial ranges > from 0 to 30 only-- I presume this is in milliseconds.) > > > 73, > Chuck NI0C > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3s in the Field & Beta 3.10
Although a good addition for safety and I certainly appreciate the addition, it still doesn't prevent the "computer reboot and key the radio" problem. This could happen quite often at a FD if the computers are not running on UPSs. Therefore, as you say, there is no substitute for common sense and operating discipline. Common sense being: Do not leave your K3 or any other radio unattended with VOX/QSK enabled and connected to a computer keying circuit. At 4/16/2009 10:36 AM, Gary, VE1RGB wrote: >For those of you who plan on taking the K3 to Field Day or to similar >portable station events, I highly recommend that you take advantage of one >of Wayne's latest options in Beta 3.10 - VOX defaults to OFF upon K3 rig >turn-on. That will eliminate the problem we encountered at the Halifax ARC >at FD 2008 where, while one team was putting the CW station HF antenna >together, another team was working on the radio/computer logging end of the >RF transmission path. Someone who was unfamiliar with the K3 innocently >booted up a computer attached to #095 which had just been turned ON with VOX >still on from previous use. The guys at the antenna end were not impressed >when the K3 - with no-one touching it or the paddles - started transmitting >pulses at full power. No-one was hurt and no equipment was damaged and we >did not cook our MFJ antenna analyzer, but the potential was there for sure. > >Anyone who has gone through a FD exercise will understand that the normal >operating discipline that we all maintain in our own fixed stations, where >of course none of us would ever allow this to happen (!), sometimes breaks >down. > > Thanks, Elecraft, for fixing this safety issue. > 73, > > Gary, VE1RGB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3s in the Field & Beta 3.10
Yesterday I changed PTT-KEY to OFF- DTR so Logger32 would be able to key via RS232. Worked great however this morning, with the K3 turned on, I booted the PC. During boot, the K3 emitted about 3 sidetone beeps. Later when I tried to key the K3 via direct paddles I got zero power out. Turning the PWR knob revealed that Power had been reduced to the zero setting. I turned up the PWR via the knob and all was well. I guess this proves the importance of first booting the PC then turning on the K3. Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: "Ed K1EP" To: "Gary, VE1RGB" ; "'Elecraft Reflector'" Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s in the Field & Beta 3.10 > Although a good addition for safety and I certainly appreciate the > addition, it still doesn't prevent the "computer reboot and key the > radio" problem. This could happen quite often at a FD if the > computers are not running on UPSs. Therefore, as you say, there is > no substitute for common sense and operating discipline. Common > sense being: Do not leave your K3 or any other radio unattended with > VOX/QSK enabled and connected to a computer keying circuit. > > At 4/16/2009 10:36 AM, Gary, VE1RGB wrote: >>For those of you who plan on taking the K3 to Field Day or to similar >>portable station events, I highly recommend that you take advantage of one >>of Wayne's latest options in Beta 3.10 - VOX defaults to OFF upon K3 rig >>turn-on. That will eliminate the problem we encountered at the Halifax >>ARC >>at FD 2008 where, while one team was putting the CW station HF antenna >>together, another team was working on the radio/computer logging end of >>the >>RF transmission path. Someone who was unfamiliar with the K3 innocently >>booted up a computer attached to #095 which had just been turned ON with >>VOX >>still on from previous use. The guys at the antenna end were not >>impressed >>when the K3 - with no-one touching it or the paddles - started >>transmitting >>pulses at full power. No-one was hurt and no equipment was damaged and we >>did not cook our MFJ antenna analyzer, but the potential was there for >>sure. >> >>Anyone who has gone through a FD exercise will understand that the normal >>operating discipline that we all maintain in our own fixed stations, where >>of course none of us would ever allow this to happen (!), sometimes breaks >>down. >> >> Thanks, Elecraft, for fixing this safety issue. >> 73, >> >> Gary, VE1RGB > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K1 with Issues: Don to the rescue!!!
I agree... Don is amazing! I look for his comments even if I don't have any issues. Hats off to Don!! 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods ATS-3B -Original Message- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 with Issues I read Chuck's description of his problem, and I thought, "What in the world?" Don Wilhelm deserves a round of applause for this diagnosis. Peter N8MHD On 4/16/09, cstove...@aol.com wrote: > > > Hi Don, > > Your comment about using flux cleaner struck a nerve with me.? I didn't > > Measure the voltage at pins 4 and 5 of RF Board RP5 and compare with the > voltage at Front Panel U1 pin 5. They should be the very close to the > same voltage. If not, check the values of R19 and R20 and re-flow the > soldering of RP5, R19 and R20.? > ? > > If you had ever attempted to clean the flux from your K1, that could be > the cause. If some flux cleaner residue wicked up under the key jack, > it can create a leakage path which would explain your problem. The only > cure is to remove the key jack and clean both the board area under the > jack and the bottom of the key jack.? > ? > > It is conceivable that the key jack itself could have some kind of > leakage path inside. To check, you will have to remove the key jack and > replace it if necessary.? > ? > > Do the solder re-flow first - a bad connection can work fine for a > while, and then fail later after a bit of oxidation occurs. If that > does not cure it, remove the key jack and check again with the jack > out. Replace the key jack if required.? > ? > > 73,? > > Don W3FPR? > ? > > cstove...@aol.com wrote:? > > > My K1 (sn2450) went together back in Oct 07 without a hitch and has been > working flawlessly ever since.? > > >? > > > A big glitch showed up tonight.? When I pushed the attenuator button it > started transmitting dashes.? That cleared by cycling the power.? I then > tried sending the content of memory 1.? It began sending that message, > stopped, "end" appeared in the display, then started transmitting > alternating dots and dashes.? When locked in transmit, the display blanks > out.? Initially I verified that it was transmitting with another receiver, > but now it seems to have lost output too.? It was hooked up to a resonant > antenna or dummy load, so I wouldn't think the final fried.? I'm running it > off a supply at 13.6VDC.? > >? > > > A voltage check of RA3 pin 5 of the MCU shows 5.6V with both dot and dash > contacts open.? When the WPM-/attn button is held the dashes start sending > and the pin 5 voltage drops to 5.0 even? though the contacts are still > open.? > > >? > > > I've been awake too long and not much is making sense, so I'm going to > call it a night.? Any ideas or suggestions on where to look would be greatly > appreciated.? > > >? > > > Chuck? K4QS > > __? > > > Elecraft mailing list? > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft? > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm? > > > Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.net? > > >? > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net? > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html? > > > ? > > >? > > >? > > > No virus found in this incoming message.? > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.57/2060 - Release Date: > 04/15/09 06:34:00? > > >? > > > > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K1 - Earbuds
I recommend checking out a company called Head Room - http://www.headphone.com/ - they have an excellent selection of earbuds and pre-amps are an excellent source of headphones of all types. And they have excellent telephone support. I have some hearing loss and use a pair of Etymotics ER-6i to produce features for public radio. They work well for that and should do fine with CW too! Phil, W3HZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3s in the Field & Beta 3.10
Steve, There was a 'safety valve' added to the K3 a while back that prevented RF if the K3 was turned on while PTT or a closed Key was found. Apparently, the timing of both the K3 power on and your PC boot were close enough to activate that 'safety valve', but in an unusual manner. Note 'safety valve' is a label of my invention - you will not find that term in the manual. 73, Don W3FPR Steve Ellington wrote: > Yesterday I changed PTT-KEY to OFF- DTR so Logger32 would be able to key via > RS232. Worked great however this morning, with the K3 turned on, I booted > the PC. During boot, the K3 emitted about 3 sidetone beeps. Later when I > tried to key the K3 via direct paddles I got zero power out. Turning the PWR > knob revealed that Power had been reduced to the zero setting. I turned up > the PWR via the knob and all was well. I guess this proves the importance of > first booting the PC then turning on the K3. > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3s in the Field & Beta 3.10
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT RLS
Don, W3FPR referenced page 30 of the K3 manual and wrote: > So in summary, TX DLY adjusts the leading delay and in semi-QSK the > DELAY knob adjusts the tail. You can have that type operation using the > internal keyer in the K3 and devote the WinKey to use with the computer > based apps. > Thanks for that clarification, Don. And I understand the difference between QSK and non QSK operation, as I was using QSK for CW traffic handling nearly fifty years ago. :) However, it has never been clear to me (and still isn't) whether or not the front panel DLY function controls the tail of the PTT output signal as well as the T/R changeover of the K3 itself. I think the manual could be clearer in this regard. 73, Chuck NI0C __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3s in the Field & Beta 3.10
Good point, Ed. Usually, though, the station is all built up by that time and some semblance of discipline has returned. No one is holding on to the antenna or the feed line is not disconnected or no RF test equipment is attached during those kinds of re-boots. Wayne's latest improvement should cut down the odds of any unpleasant surprises by an order of magnitude. Actually, if the K3's DC power supply is connected to the same source of A.C as everything else in the tent (like the computers) and one loses that source of A.C., the K3 shuts down when it loses its DC. Upon restoration of AC to the station and hence DC to the radio, one must turn the K3 back on again which disables VOX as per Wayne's latest change. I think this fix should cover 99% of contingencies. However, I would be the first to agree that leaving a "hot" transmitter unattended is bad operating practice, especially in a situation where the public and/or untrained operators are running around. Like Field Day. 73, Gary, VE1RGB -Original Message- From: Ed K1EP [mailto:k1ep.l...@gmail.com] Sent: April 16, 2009 11:53 AM To: Gary, VE1RGB; 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s in the Field & Beta 3.10 Although a good addition for safety and I certainly appreciate the addition, it still doesn't prevent the "computer reboot and key the radio" problem. This could happen quite often at a FD if the computers are not running on UPSs. Therefore, as you say, there is no substitute for common sense and operating discipline. Common sense being: Do not leave your K3 or any other radio unattended with VOX/QSK enabled and connected to a computer keying circuit. At 4/16/2009 10:36 AM, Gary, VE1RGB wrote: >For those of you who plan on taking the K3 to Field Day or to similar >portable station events, I highly recommend that you take advantage of one >of Wayne's latest options in Beta 3.10 - VOX defaults to OFF upon K3 rig >turn-on. That will eliminate the problem we encountered at the Halifax ARC >at FD 2008 where, while one team was putting the CW station HF antenna >together, another team was working on the radio/computer logging end of the >RF transmission path. Someone who was unfamiliar with the K3 innocently >booted up a computer attached to #095 which had just been turned ON with VOX >still on from previous use. The guys at the antenna end were not impressed >when the K3 - with no-one touching it or the paddles - started transmitting >pulses at full power. No-one was hurt and no equipment was damaged and we >did not cook our MFJ antenna analyzer, but the potential was there for sure. > >Anyone who has gone through a FD exercise will understand that the normal >operating discipline that we all maintain in our own fixed stations, where >of course none of us would ever allow this to happen (!), sometimes breaks >down. > > Thanks, Elecraft, for fixing this safety issue. > 73, > > Gary, VE1RGB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3s in the Field & Beta 3.10
Allow me to offer another caution, even though it is painful to admit. When I first acquired my K3 (thus being a "beginner") I was comparing it to my Kenwood TS-870 by sharing the antenna using the '870's "Aux Receiver" port. In doing a band change I unknowingly held the switch too long and put the K3 in VOX mode. Try not to get ahead of me... the next noise in the shack tripped the VOX and I transmitted into the Kenwood front end. Kenwood wisely included a protective bulb in the circuit, although it is both expensive and located where it is going to be a real pain to replace. Ironically, after 10+ years of flawless operation my first failure occurs when I buy what is supposed to be a replacement radio. Too many functions, not enough buttons. Wes Stewart N7WS --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Ed K1EP wrote: > Although a good addition for safety and I certainly > appreciate the > addition, it still doesn't prevent the "computer > reboot and key the > radio" problem. This could happen quite often at a FD > if the > computers are not running on UPSs. Therefore, as you say, > there is > no substitute for common sense and operating discipline. > Common > sense being: Do not leave your K3 or any other radio > unattended with > VOX/QSK enabled and connected to a computer keying circuit. > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT RLS
Chuck (and others), the original purpose of the PTT RLS feature had nothing to do with keying linear amplifiers. It was included in the firmware for the purpose of delaying the key-off time to allow audio to exit the DSP before the transmission drops. This is necessary on modes such as AMTOR and Pactor, otherwise the last part of the transmission is missed off. The timing is in milliseconds, the typical setting should be around 12. 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 - I haven't tried keying my amp yet using the K3 PTT simply because I wasn't aware of a programmable "tail" time. BTW, I just checked the PTT RLS feature (I'm using the latest Beta FW, 3.10), but the dial ranges from 0 to 30 only-- I presume this is in milliseconds.) 73, Chuck NI0C __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3s in the Field & Beta 3.10
It's a new CONFIG option turn on for field day. * CW VOX OFF BY DEFAULT ON POWER-UP: Some stations using PC control may inadvertently key the K3 in CW mode on power-up if VOX CW is in effect. If this is an issue at your station, locate the CONFIG:CW WGHT menu entry and tap '4', changing VOX NOR to AUTO OFF. This will make CW VOX default to OFF when the K3 is turned on. [Elecraft] K3s in the Field & Beta 3.10 Gary, VE1RGB garybartlett at accesswave.ca Thu Apr 16 10:36:58 EDT 2009 For those of you who plan on taking the K3 to Field Day or to similar portable station events, I highly recommend that you take advantage of one of Wayne's latest options in Beta 3.10 - VOX defaults to OFF upon K3 rig turn-on. That will eliminate the problem we encountered at the Halifax ARC at FD 2008 where, while one team was putting the CW station HF antenna together, another team was working on the radio/computer logging end of the RF transmission path. Someone who was unfamiliar with the K3 innocently booted up a computer attached to #095 which had just been turned ON with VOX still on from previous use. The guys at the antenna end were not impressed when the K3 - with no-one touching it or the paddles - started transmitting pulses at full power. No-one was hurt and no equipment was damaged and we did not cook our MFJ antenna analyzer, but the potential was there for sure. Anyone who has gone through a FD exercise will understand that the normal operating discipline that we all maintain in our own fixed stations, where of course none of us would ever allow this to happen (!), sometimes breaks down. Thanks, Elecraft, for fixing this safety issue. 73, Gary, VE1RGB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT RLS
Chuck, I don't know the answer, but usually PTT used with phone or data does not present a problem similar to your preferences for semi-break-in CW. Perhaps someone who has experimented with that aspect and made measurements can provide the answer. 73, Don W3FPR ni0c wrote: > However, it has never been clear to me (and still isn't) whether or not the > front > panel DLY function controls the tail of the PTT output signal as well as the > T/R > changeover of the K3 itself. I think the manual could be clearer in this > regard. > > 73, > Chuck NI0C > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Help with my K£
Hi to all on the list. I have a problem with my K3/100 s/n 1758 using the 3.06 firmware and DSP 02.12 , time to time when i use the paddle i see on the sub A: E 04C6CE and on sub B : ERR DSE. Any idea ?? Thank you in advance de Luigi,ik8ozz. -- Io utilizzo la versione gratuita di SPAMfighter. Siamo una comunità di 6 milioni di utenti che combattono lo spam. Sino ad ora ha rimosso 97 mail spam. Gli utenti paganti non hanno questo messaggio nelle loro email . Prova gratuitamente SPAMfighter qui:http://www.spamfighter.com/lit __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K1] K1 QSK Modification
Does anyone know if there is a way to modify the T/R delay higher than 900ms? Nate -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K1-QSK-Modification-tp2643306p2643306.html Sent from the [K1] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 at 100wpm CW Great!
I successfully communicated with another ham at 100 wpm without one character being missed. I was using beta MCU 3.10 I was using HRD with DM-780 as was the other station. We were on 40 meters at about 2:30 this afternoon. I was using PTT not vox. I did find out some interesting things about programs. With the other station still using DM-780 I switched to CwType but he was not able to copy above about 80wpm. I changed weighting in the ini file but still not copy. I switched to DM-780 again and had him switch to CwGet he could still not copy but when I got back on DM-780 100WPM was again 100 percent copy. What this means to me is that I either need to do more adjusting in CwGet or it simply will not copy at that speed. I will be trying MixW soon but I am happy right now that DM-780 will do the speed. The K3 is now capable of transmitting at 100wpm and faster if I had a program that would go beyond 100wpm. DM-780 settings were as follows: Options PTT tab Check Ham Radio Delux Mode CW Check Use PTT Check enable serial [com ] keying Check Toggle pins DTR and RTS K3 config PTT-key set to rts-dtr Ron NA9F -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-at-100wpm-CW-Great%21-tp2643328p2643328.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Help with my K£
Luigi, The ERR DSE is an indication of a DSP problem. You may have a corrupt DSP file. Download the beta files again and reload. If that does not correct it, send an email to k3supp...@elecraft.com. 73, Don W3FPR ik8ozz wrote: > Hi to all on the list. > I have a problem with my K3/100 s/n 1758 using the 3.06 firmware and DSP > 02.12 , time to time when i use the paddle i see on the sub A: E 04C6CE > and on sub B : ERR DSE. > Any idea ?? > Thank you in advance de Luigi,ik8ozz. > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 New fw loader
Installed this (1.2.3.18). Removed old loader first. It appears to set the rig in AFSK A mode for digital overriding what was last used. My digital mode is always set to FSK D. Happened last night when testing with FW3.06 and today with FW3.10. This did not happen with the older loader/FW3.06 Anybody else seeing this? 73 de Brian/K3KO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT RLS
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:35:27 -0500, "ni0c" wrote: [snip] >However, it has never been clear to me (and still isn't) whether or not the >front >panel DLY function controls the tail of the PTT output signal as well as the >T/R >changeover of the K3 itself. I think the manual could be clearer in this >regard. [snip] I just tested this with the K3 I use for the XVTR's here. I am able to control the relay drop time of the bricks here by using the semi break in QSK setting and adjusting the DELAY setting on the front panel as described on Pg 30 of the latest K3 Manual. You're right. It could be clearer... Tom, N5GE K3 #806, K3 #1055 XV144, XV432 W1 and other small kits. http://www.n5ge.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3] Rob Sherwood tests Perseus
G'day to the Group Copied this message by VK4ZSS from the Perseus list...thought it might be of interest here. 73, Bill W4ZV http://groups.yahoo.com/group/perseus_SDR/message/5124 Guy has just blogged on Rob Sherwood's updating of his receiver comparison tests with the Perseus receiver noting that only the Elecraft K3 beats the Perseus in the key narrow spaced dynamic range test. Guys blog is here: http://perseus-sdr.blogspot.com/ Rob's test results are here: http://www.sherweng.com/table.html Firstly let me say, Rob's tests are highly professional and we owe Sherwood Engineering and Passport to Worldband Radio an enormous debt for naming and shaming the many manufacturers that have been foisting inferior receivers upon us for several generations of solid state equipment over 4 decades. Nothing following detracts from that. As I understand it, Perseus' SDR architecture, together with very low phase noise LO, results in no degradation of wide spaced dynamic range (100kHz) to narrow spaced (2kHz) dynamic range and Rob's tests support this (99dB for both). The K3 relies for its excellent narrow figures upon multipole crystal filters and only pips the Perseus with a 200Hz filter (101/96/95dB for 200/400/500Hz). So if we extended the tests for very narrow spaced (say 200Hz) dynamic range the Perseus would certainly be top of the list. Having said that for medium wave reception, these narrow spaced figures are not quite so relevant as for hams using CW. The broadcast signals' modulation is so broad that mostly we are dealing with transmitted splash rather than rx overload products. In the wide spaced dynamic range measurements the K3 is the clear leader (104dB to 99dB). The K3 tests far superior to the Perseus in Ultimate Filter rejection (105dB vs 95dB), but can someone explain to me what this measurement means in a direct digital conversion receiver, since there is no IF filter to leak around? The Perseus is the clear leader in Local Oscillator phase noise at -147dBc @ 10kHz compared to the K3 at -138dBc. Again the K3 is a clear leader in sensitivity -138dBm cf -125dBm, but this differential can be eliminated with the addition of third party high performance preamps eg DXE and Kiwa, as most of us do. Ditto in respect of blocking dynamic range K3 140dB vs Perseus 125dB, but I need to read up the ARRL lanual on the 3Hz bandwidth blocking measurement footnoted against the K3 but not the Perseus. Many thanks to Rob for making the measurements available to us all, Guy for blogging it and John Plimmer for spotting it first. 73s GD DX DE Sam Dellit VK1DXA Canberra, Australia -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-K3---Rob-Sherwood-tests-Perseus-tp2643399p2643399.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader
Brian: I loaded K3 Utility 1.2.3.18 and then FW 3.10 / 2.15 this AM - it did not disturb my FSK D settings. 73, Doug VE3MV K3/100 s/n 2432 - Original Message - From: "Brian Alsop" To: Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:42 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader > Installed this (1.2.3.18). Removed old loader first. > It appears to set the rig in AFSK A mode for digital overriding what was > last used. My digital mode is always set to FSK D. > Happened last night when testing with FW3.06 and today with FW3.10. > This did not happen with the older loader/FW3.06 > > Anybody else seeing this? > > 73 de Brian/K3KO >> > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 RS-232 Cable use of TT O2 Cable
I am the proud owner of a newly constructed K3 number 2574 as well as a TT Orion 2. The O2 came with a RS232 cable which I have used a number of times for updates of the firmware. Has anyone used the same TT O2 cable when updating their K3? I hope to install the 100 Watt amplifier this weekend and then plan to update the firmware and also load my CW memories. Thank you Elecrafter for adding this CW memory loading feature. Running a K3 is almost a hobby in itself. 73 Doug EI2CN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader
Hi Brian, I noticed similar behavior back in March and reported it to the list on March 9th. So I don't think it's necessarily new with the new utility or firmware. Unfortunately, I've never been able to reproduce the problem consistently, so it remains a mystery. 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Apr 16, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Brian Alsop wrote: > Installed this (1.2.3.18). Removed old loader first. > It appears to set the rig in AFSK A mode for digital overriding what > was > last used. My digital mode is always set to FSK D. > Happened last night when testing with FW3.06 and today with FW3.10. > This did not happen with the older loader/FW3.06 > > Anybody else seeing this? > > 73 de Brian/K3KO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS-232 Cable use of TT O2 Cable
> I am the proud owner of a newly constructed K3 number 2574 as well as a TT > Orion 2. The O2 came with a RS232 cable which I have used a number of > times for updates of the firmware. Has anyone used the same TT O2 cable > when updating their K3? Any standard RS232 cable ought to work with the K3. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader
I know of no code in the K3 Utility that intentionally changes the Data Submode. There are cases where the K3 Utility saves (and usually restores) some rig settings (notably Auto Info, Text to Terminal, K2 and K3 modes), and during the Tx Gain calibration test a number of rig parameters are changed (and for those I can, restored), but data submode is not one of the things I touch. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian Alsop Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:43 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader Installed this (1.2.3.18). Removed old loader first. It appears to set the rig in AFSK A mode for digital overriding what was last used. My digital mode is always set to FSK D. Happened last night when testing with FW3.06 and today with FW3.10. This did not happen with the older loader/FW3.06 Anybody else seeing this? 73 de Brian/K3KO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader
A well used OS can result in corruption... anti virus programs, etc., can all raise cane with how your system works. Don't forget the first thing to do when you are having a software/hardware issue is to reboot. That can help clear up a large majority of issues. This is where the "mysteries" can develop. Bill K9YEQ Bill Johnson WR Johnson Consulting dba Creekside Computing 920-421-1172 PO Box 877 3868 Cty Hwy F Fish Creek, WI 54212 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Planisky Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:34 PM To: Brian Alsop Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader Hi Brian, I noticed similar behavior back in March and reported it to the list on March 9th. So I don't think it's necessarily new with the new utility or firmware. Unfortunately, I've never been able to reproduce the problem consistently, so it remains a mystery. 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Apr 16, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Brian Alsop wrote: > Installed this (1.2.3.18). Removed old loader first. > It appears to set the rig in AFSK A mode for digital overriding what > was > last used. My digital mode is always set to FSK D. > Happened last night when testing with FW3.06 and today with FW3.10. > This did not happen with the older loader/FW3.06 > > Anybody else seeing this? > > 73 de Brian/K3KO __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3] Unable to load latest K3 utility in Windows 98
Previous versions of K3 have loaded into my old 98 radio computer just fine. When I attempt to run (load) utility 1.2.3.18, I receive the following message "Windows ver 4.1. or later required". A quick check shows my 98 machine is running ver 4.10.1998. What has changed from pervious versions of K3 utility and the latest version that would cause this? Can the newest version be made to run on my version of windows like the other versions have? I normally download K3 utility and FW updates to his super computer, copy to disc and load into my 98 machine. I have a 10' RS232 cable that I enables me to connect from this computer to the K3, which is fine for FW downloads but it's kind of rough doing K3 utility work with K3 utility and running over to the K3 to see what's going on. I know, get a new computer, but I use DOS based SW (NA) and SO2R for contesting and the ole 98 works fine with it's extra com and serial ports (not usb). The 98 machine is not connected to the Internet, it's radio dedicated. John k7up __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader
Guys, I've been able to reproduce this. No idea where it is coming from. It may not be the loader but something in 3.06 or 3.10. Odd that I don't recall seeing it in many weeks of using 3.06.Since I never use DATA A but switch a lot between FSK D, CW and SSB, it should have jumped out. Here are the steps. 1) Set digital mode to FSK -D. Verify it is there correctly 2) Set mode to CW. 3) Turn radio off . 4) Turn radio back on 5) Look at the digital mode. It becomes DATA A. Will try a new download and reload of 3.10. 73 de Brian/K3KO Dick Dievendorff wrote: >I know of no code in the K3 Utility that intentionally changes the Data >Submode. There are cases where the K3 Utility saves (and usually restores) >some rig settings (notably Auto Info, Text to Terminal, K2 and K3 modes), >and during the Tx Gain calibration test a number of rig parameters are >changed (and for those I can, restored), but data submode is not one of the >things I touch. > >Dick, K6KR > > >-Original Message- >From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian Alsop >Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:43 PM >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader > >Installed this (1.2.3.18). Removed old loader first. >It appears to set the rig in AFSK A mode for digital overriding what was >last used. My digital mode is always set to FSK D. >Happened last night when testing with FW3.06 and today with FW3.10. >This did not happen with the older loader/FW3.06 > >Anybody else seeing this? > >73 de Brian/K3KO >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader
> Here are the steps. > 1) Set digital mode to FSK -D. Verify it is there correctly > 2) Set mode to CW. > 3) Turn radio off . > 4) Turn radio back on > 5) Look at the digital mode. It becomes DATA A. I followed these steps, and my Data mode remains FSK. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader
Well, on my K3 I have to agree with Brian, following his steps does cause on my #980 with latest 3.10 the data mode to return to Data A. Since Data A is the only one I use I had not noticed it before. 73 Stephen G4SJP On 16/04/2009 23:47, "Lyle Johnson" wrote: > >> Here are the steps. >> 1) Set digital mode to FSK -D. Verify it is there correctly >> 2) Set mode to CW. >> 3) Turn radio off . >> 4) Turn radio back on >> 5) Look at the digital mode. It becomes DATA A. > > I followed these steps, and my Data mode remains FSK. > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader
I just tried it 5 times. The first time it came up FSK D, and every time after that it came up DATA A . Go figure. I don't think it has anything to do with the K3 Utility, though. 73, Ken K3IU Lyle Johnson wrote: >> Here are the steps. >> 1) Set digital mode to FSK -D. Verify it is there correctly >> 2) Set mode to CW. >> 3) Turn radio off . >> 4) Turn radio back on >> 5) Look at the digital mode. It becomes DATA A. >> > > I followed these steps, and my Data mode remains FSK. > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader
I just did the same steps (twice) and my data mode did change to DATA A (both times). Using 3.10. Bob Serwy - N9RS -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lyle Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:47 PM To: Brian Alsop Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader > Here are the steps. > 1) Set digital mode to FSK -D. Verify it is there correctly > 2) Set mode to CW. > 3) Turn radio off . > 4) Turn radio back on > 5) Look at the digital mode. It becomes DATA A. I followed these steps, and my Data mode remains FSK. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.59/2063 - Release Date: 04/16/09 16:38:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 New fw loader
Hi Brian: I tried your method and you know, your right. Mine works the same way. The LAST DATA MODE is not coming back after the change of mode to CW, PWR OFF/ON, and change mode back to DATA and PRESS DATA MD. Mine comes back DATA A , no matter what, also.I don't have an updated MENU TABLE so I'm not sure if there is a setting for saving DATA MODES. I'll stay tuned to see what we are doing wrong. 73'sTonyK2ZLS FW 3.l0. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader
I just tried it several times on two K3's and it came up DATA A every time. Bob W6VY - Original Message - >>> Here are the steps. >>> 1) Set digital mode to FSK -D. Verify it is there correctly >>> 2) Set mode to CW. >>> 3) Turn radio off . >>> 4) Turn radio back on >>> 5) Look at the digital mode. It becomes DATA A. >>> >> >> I followed these steps, and my Data mode remains FSK. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Band Decoder
I need to get cracking on how and what to use for band decoders on my soon to be K3... I currently use Top Ten boxes and haven't printed out the manual for the K3 as my printer is on the blink.. Does Top Ten make boxes for the K3 ?? is there a home brew model I can makesaving some $$ isn't a bad idea.. I have to get all my interface cables changed around so when the new baby arrives it has some place to hook it's little head into..ha ha Life is good... 73/Sam K9SD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Band Decoder
I know of the Elecraft KRC2, the Top Ten Devices decoder for Yaesu, and Unified Microsystems has a very affordable board for this application. I would bet that both microHAM and Array Solutions have a solution in this area as well. You can certainly homebrew something if you're comfortable with a BCD to parallel line decoder chip and the necessary relay drivers and pull-ups. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of k9sd Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:02 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Band Decoder I need to get cracking on how and what to use for band decoders on my soon to be K3... I currently use Top Ten boxes and haven't printed out the manual for the K3 as my printer is on the blink.. Does Top Ten make boxes for the K3 ?? is there a home brew model I can makesaving some $$ isn't a bad idea.. I have to get all my interface cables changed around so when the new baby arrives it has some place to hook it's little head into..ha ha Life is good... 73/Sam K9SD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Unable to load latest K3 utility in Windows 98
The installer does have a version check, and I set it for Windows 98 SE, which is the supported version. But I can probably relax this to Windows 98. I just can't test it as I have nothing earlier than Windows 98 SE. If you can test on Windows 98 prior to SE for me, I'll relax the version check. I'm very reluctant to release software I can't test. I do test on Windows 98 SE, Windows XP, and Windows Vista 32. The installer has changed, that's what's new and its version check triggered this behavior. I will be home sometime (perhaps very late) Monday and will be able to send you a private copy by Tuesday at the latest. I live in the Seattle area and drove down to the Visalia DX convention, and I don't have the ability to build the current code while on the road. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:10 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Unable to load latest K3 utility in Windows 98 Previous versions of K3 have loaded into my old 98 radio computer just fine. When I attempt to run (load) utility 1.2.3.18, I receive the following message "Windows ver 4.1. or later required". A quick check shows my 98 machine is running ver 4.10.1998. What has changed from pervious versions of K3 utility and the latest version that would cause this? Can the newest version be made to run on my version of windows like the other versions have? I normally download K3 utility and FW updates to his super computer, copy to disc and load into my 98 machine. I have a 10' RS232 cable that I enables me to connect from this computer to the K3, which is fine for FW downloads but it's kind of rough doing K3 utility work with K3 utility and running over to the K3 to see what's going on. I know, get a new computer, but I use DOS based SW (NA) and SO2R for contesting and the ole 98 works fine with it's extra com and serial ports (not usb). The 98 machine is not connected to the Internet, it's radio dedicated. John k7up __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] LP Pan for Sale
Is the lp pan and muadio still available? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] LP Pan for Sale
Sorry about the post here. Clicked on a members Email to inquire on something he was selling and didn't realize that it was span protected and accidently emailed the reflector instead. Cheers Doug K0ZU -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:42 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP Pan for Sale Is the lp pan and muadio still available? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Band Decoder
Sam; I would be remiss if I didn't point you at the Elecraft KRC2. It connects to the K3's Aux IO port using the AuxBus data supported by the K3. The KRC2 gives you up to 16 high (normally +12V, but can drive up to 45 volts) and low-drive (sinking to 0 volts), directly controlled by the K3. Take a look at the KRC2 at the Elecraft page. The Top Ten box should also work with the K3. The K3 supports BCD output on the Aux IO connector that can drive the Top Ten decoder. Of coourse, we want you to use our devices, but if you already have the Top Ten, then you should be able to use it. Manuals for both the K3 and the KRC2, as well as our other products, are available on the Elecraft web site. And you can view them on your computer. You can print them if you really want to, but why use the toner and paper unless you need to? Also, we include a very nicely printed and bound copy of the manual with each product! Enjoy your K3 when it arrives. And remember, if you need help, and the great folks on the email list can't resolve the problem, our support team is just an email away! - Jack Brindle Elecraft Engineering On Apr 16, 2009, at 5:02 PM, k9sd wrote: > I need to get cracking on how and what to use for band decoders on > my soon to be K3... > > > I currently use Top Ten boxes and haven't printed out the manual for > the K3 as my printer is on the blink.. > > > Does Top Ten make boxes for the K3 ?? > > is there a home brew model I can makesaving some $$ isn't a bad > idea.. > > I have to get all my interface cables changed around so when the new > baby arrives it has some place to hook it's little head into..ha ha > > > > Life is good... > > > 73/Sam K9SD > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Band Decoder
The current version of the K3 (which has internal pull-up resistors) should be directly compatible with the W9XT decoder: http://www.unifiedmicro.com/decoder.html This unit provides a ground on the selected band. It does not source +12V. If you can live with that limitation, it is a bargain at $25. Top Ten and Array Solutions are other sources of band decoders with more features at higher prices. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ - Original Message - From: "k9sd" To: Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 12:02 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Band Decoder > I need to get cracking on how and what to use for band > decoders on my soon to be K3... __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3s in the Field & Beta 3.10
At 4/16/2009 12:24 PM, Gary, VE1RGB wrote: >Good point, Ed. Usually, though, the station is all built up by that time >and some semblance of discipline has returned. No one is holding on to the >antenna or the feed line is not disconnected or no RF test equipment is >attached during those kinds of re-boots. Wayne's latest improvement should >cut down the odds of any unpleasant surprises by an order of magnitude. > >Actually, if the K3's DC power supply is connected to the same source of A.C >as everything else in the tent (like the computers) and one loses that >source of A.C., the K3 shuts down when it loses its DC. Upon restoration of >AC to the station and hence DC to the radio, one must turn the K3 back on >again which disables VOX as per Wayne's latest change. I think this fix >should cover 99% of contingencies. Actually, what I do is put the K3 in TEST mode if I am going to leave the radio unattended. If for some reason, power gets cycled, the radio will now power up in NORMAL mode. Instead of or in addition to the current "fix" to disable VOX on power up, I would like to see either the radio maintain the TEST state after power up (i.e. if it was in TEST mode when power was removed, then it would power up in TEST mode) or always (menu selectable) power up in TEST mode. I think that is "safer" than the VOX "fix". Just my opinion. Now here is a really off the wall request/suggestion. I am NOT asking it be done. Repeat, I am not asking or requesting it be implemented. But I thought it would be novel option. Have the frequency readout be a mirror image. Why? I have operated with my K3 mobile (parked!) and have had the K3 in the rear seat area for convenience. In most cases I wouldn't have to fiddle with many controls other than the VFO. So to read the frequency, I would have to turn around to see the radio. But if there was a mirror option, I could read it in my rear view mirror. Okay, I really don't want to suggest having this option, but since there are always multitudes of option suggestions for specialized situations, I thought I would add my own here. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Band Decoder
> I would bet that both microHAM and > Array Solutions have a solution in this area as well. microHAM "Station Master" will interface via the RS-232 port and provide many station control functions. The old (discontinued) microHAM Band Decoder would support either RS-232 (CAT) interface or a BCD (Yaesu style) interface if you can find one used. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM supp...@microham.com > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dick > Dievendorff > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:17 PM > To: 'k9sd'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Band Decoder > > > I know of the Elecraft KRC2, the Top Ten Devices decoder for > Yaesu, and Unified Microsystems has a very affordable board > for this application. I would bet that both microHAM and > Array Solutions have a solution in this area as well. > > You can certainly homebrew something if you're comfortable > with a BCD to parallel line decoder chip and the necessary > relay drivers and pull-ups. > > Dick, K6KR > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of k9sd > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:02 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Band Decoder > > I need to get cracking on how and what to use for band > decoders on my soon to be K3... > > > I currently use Top Ten boxes and haven't printed out the > manual for the K3 as my printer is on the blink.. > > > Does Top Ten make boxes for the K3 ?? > > is there a home brew model I can makesaving some $$ isn't > a bad idea.. > > I have to get all my interface cables changed around so when > the new baby arrives it has some place to hook it's little > head into..ha ha > > > > Life is good... > > > 73/Sam K9SD > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3s in the Field & Beta 3.10
I use TEST mode in exactly the way you do, and have long had the same issue with it not persisting when power is cycled. I've mentioned it more than once on this reflector but a rationale hasn't been offered. To my mind a "safe" condition, once established, should remain that way until the operator changes it. Transmit disable on the Orion worked this way. Bob NW8L On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Ed K1EP wrote: > > Actually, what I do is put the K3 in TEST mode if I am going to leave > the radio unattended. If for some reason, power gets cycled, the > radio will now power up in NORMAL mode. Instead of or in addition to > the current "fix" to disable VOX on power up, I would like to see > either the radio maintain the TEST state after power up (i.e. if it > was in TEST mode when power was removed, then it would power up in > TEST mode) or always (menu selectable) power up in TEST mode. I > think that is "safer" than the VOX "fix". Just my opinion. > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader
Just tried it five consecutive times and FSK D was retained all five times. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob Serwy > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:45 PM > To: 'Lyle Johnson'; 'Brian Alsop' > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader > > > I just did the same steps (twice) and my data mode did change > to DATA A (both times). Using 3.10. > > Bob Serwy - N9RS > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lyle Johnson > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:47 PM > To: Brian Alsop > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader > > > Here are the steps. > > 1) Set digital mode to FSK -D. Verify it is there correctly > > 2) Set mode to CW. > > 3) Turn radio off . > > 4) Turn radio back on > > 5) Look at the digital mode. It becomes DATA A. > > I followed these steps, and my Data mode remains FSK. > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.59/2063 - Release > Date: 04/16/09 16:38:00 > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader
I just tried it once each on two different K3's, and they each switched from FSK D to DATA A. Both radios run 3.10, loaded with the new utility. I never change modes with the mode switch (I use memories), so I never would have noticed this if I hadn't specifically tried to duplicate it. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ - Original Message - From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" To: "'Bob Serwy'" Cc: Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:36 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader > > Just tried it five consecutive times and FSK D was > retained all > five times. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of >> Bob Serwy >> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:45 PM >> To: 'Lyle Johnson'; 'Brian Alsop' >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader >> >> >> I just did the same steps (twice) and my data mode did >> change >> to DATA A (both times). Using 3.10. >> >> Bob Serwy - N9RS >> >> -Original Message- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of >> Lyle Johnson >> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:47 PM >> To: Brian Alsop >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader >> >> > Here are the steps. >> > 1) Set digital mode to FSK -D. Verify it is there >> > correctly >> > 2) Set mode to CW. >> > 3) Turn radio off . >> > 4) Turn radio back on >> > 5) Look at the digital mode. It becomes DATA A. >> >> I followed these steps, and my Data mode remains FSK. >> >> 73, >> >> Lyle KK7P >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: >> http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.59/2063 - >> Release >> Date: 04/16/09 16:38:00 >> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: >> http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] More on PSK31 and HRD DigiMaster 780
Since I am able to connect HRD to my K-3 and make all controls of the K-3 in HRD, I am trying to figure out if there's a way for me to connect my computer thru 780 to the sound card in the K-3? Is there a driver I need to download in order for 780 to show the sound card? What is the K-3 sound card called? I am able to use the sound card in the computer, but since the radio has its own, using it would free up the computer sound card for other functions... 73, Ron AE6RH S/N 1997 Ron Midwin Midwin & Olifson, Inc. 2001 S. Barrington Ave. #120 Los Angeles, CA 90025 310-880-0699 (Cell) mid...@mo-rep.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on PSK31 and HRD DigiMaster 780
> Since I am able to connect HRD to my K-3 and make all > controls of the K-3 in HRD, I am trying to figure out if > there's a way for me to connect my computer thru 780 to the > sound card in the K-3? The K3 does not include a sound card. You will need to use the soundcard in your computer or add a second (perhaps USB) soundcard to your system. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron Midwin > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 12:48 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] More on PSK31 and HRD DigiMaster 780 > > > Since I am able to connect HRD to my K-3 and make all > controls of the K-3 in HRD, I am trying to figure out if > there's a way for me to connect my computer thru 780 to the > sound card in the K-3? > > Is there a driver I need to download in order for 780 to show > the sound card? What is the K-3 sound card called? > > I am able to use the sound card in the computer, but since > the radio has its own, using it would free up the computer > sound card for other functions... > > > > 73, > > Ron > AE6RH > S/N 1997 > > Ron Midwin > Midwin & Olifson, Inc. > 2001 S. Barrington Ave. #120 > Los Angeles, CA 90025 > 310-880-0699 (Cell) > mid...@mo-rep.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader
Strange ... I'm also running 3.10 loaded with the new utility. I loaded 3.10, DSP1 2.15, DSP2, 2.15, FP 1.00 and the data tables twice. Power was cycled power between the two uploads. I have not checked the second K3 ... it's offline at the moment waiting for me to make a couple of the updates. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave > Hachadorian > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 12:44 AM > To: Elecraft reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader > > > I just tried it once each on two different K3's, and they > each switched from FSK D to DATA A. > > Both radios run 3.10, loaded with the new utility. > > I never change modes with the mode switch (I use memories), > so I never would have noticed this if I hadn't specifically > tried to duplicate it. > > Dave Hachadorian, K6LL > Yuma, AZ > > - Original Message - > From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" > To: "'Bob Serwy'" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:36 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader > > > > > > Just tried it five consecutive times and FSK D was > > retained all > > five times. > > > > 73, > > > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob Serwy > >> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:45 PM > >> To: 'Lyle Johnson'; 'Brian Alsop' > >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader > >> > >> > >> I just did the same steps (twice) and my data mode did > >> change > >> to DATA A (both times). Using 3.10. > >> > >> Bob Serwy - N9RS > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > >> Lyle Johnson > >> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:47 PM > >> To: Brian Alsop > >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 New fw loader > >> > >> > Here are the steps. > >> > 1) Set digital mode to FSK -D. Verify it is there > >> > correctly > >> > 2) Set mode to CW. > >> > 3) Turn radio off . > >> > 4) Turn radio back on > >> > 5) Look at the digital mode. It becomes DATA A. > >> > >> I followed these steps, and my Data mode remains FSK. > >> > >> 73, > >> > >> Lyle KK7P > >> > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: > >> http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.59/2063 - > >> Release > >> Date: 04/16/09 16:38:00 > >> > >> > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: > >> http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: > > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
