[Elecraft] Spare 2.7 khz filter

2009-05-31 Thread Jim

Anyone have a spare 2.7 Khz filter for the K-3 they would like to sell
please reply to me off the list with your price shipped.

Thanks de KE4WY Jim

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[Elecraft] UK Elecraft net report for Sunday 31st May

2009-05-31 Thread Dave G4AON
The net ran on 3627 KHz from 0900 to 0940 hours local time (0800
- 0840 UTC). The weather was too nice to be in the shack for
long, especially those of us with linear amplifiers.

Subjects covered this week included my KXV3 connected 6m pre-amp
problem (it appears to have been damaged when the K3 went to
"tune" - probably by a spurious computer command), generators
for portable use with linears and the new Elecraft power meter.

Stations were:

GB1RAF/P, Vince (G4DQP)
M0CHK, Andy
M1PAF, Paul
G0MJW, Mike
GM3SEK, Ian
G0VGS, Ian

73 until next week
Dave, G4AON
K3/100, Acom 1000, dipole


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[Elecraft] K3 - CW decode and agc decay...

2009-05-31 Thread Stewart Rolfe

Yesterday I was playing with the cw decode feature for the first time in WPX CW 
and I noticed that the agc decay was significantly slowed while the decode (and 
the CWT) was in operation. Is this normal?

More an observation really rather than a problem as I don't normally use it; 
sometimes handy to check serials and callsigns of some of the ultra speed 
merchants but mostly I found it a distraction.

73,

Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF (GW6W in wpx...)

K3 #145, latest f/w suite

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - CW decode and agc decay...

2009-05-31 Thread Bob Cunnings
It's documented in the D2 manual, page 33, in the "CW Text Decode Tips" section:

"The K3 uses slow AGC during CW text decode,
overriding the selected AGC setting."

So it's normal.

Bob NW8L

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Stewart Rolfe  wrote:
>
> Yesterday I was playing with the cw decode feature for the first time in WPX 
> CW and I noticed that the agc decay was significantly slowed while the decode 
> (and the CWT) was in operation. Is this normal?
>
> More an observation really rather than a problem as I don't normally use it; 
> sometimes handy to check serials and callsigns of some of the ultra speed 
> merchants but mostly I found it a distraction.
>
> 73,
>
> Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF (GW6W in wpx...)
>
> K3 #145, latest f/w suite
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 EZ and .NET FRAMEWORK 2.0

2009-05-31 Thread Radio Amateur N5GE
On Sat, 30 May 2009 13:23:04 -0700 (PDT), Jessie Oberreuter
 wrote:

I'm not sure about that, but I do know for sure that .NET 3.5 includes
the .NET 2.0 library.

>
>I think Vista would consider .NET 2.0 "built in".
>
>
>On Sat, 30 May 2009, Radio Amateur N5GE wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 30 May 2009 14:56:53 -0400, "Dan"  wrote:
>>
>>> I was looking on the Elecraft software site, and saw the K3 EZ utiltiy 
>>> which helps with creating/maintaining the K3 configuration.
>>>
>>> The K3 EZ info page says that there is a system requirement--.NET FRAMEWORK 
>>> 2.0 must be installed.
>>>
>>> The Microsoft download page for .NET FRAMEWORK 2.0 does not list Vista as a 
>>> supported operating system.
>>>
>>> Has anyone found a way to use K3 EZ with Vista?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dan (s/n 3020)
>>> __
>>
>> Download the .NET 3.5 version.  It will work with Vista.
>>
>> Tom, N5GE
>> K3 #806, K3 #1055
>> XV144, XV432
>> W1 and other small kits.
>> http://www.n5ge.com
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3

2009-05-31 Thread David Wilburn
Everyone is 59(9) in a contest.  There are keyers out there that 
handle serial numbers.  As one example;
http://www.idiompress.com/K5.html

I am sure there are more.

Signal reports only have relative value, especially in a contest.  The 
fact that a contest station down the street with stacked beams and 
multiple towers can pick you up 599 +20dB, is no indicator that my low 
dipole can pick you up.

It is as they say, all relative.

73 es gud DX

Dave Wilburn
NM4M

David Pratt wrote:
> In a recent message, Tom-N2YTF  wrote ...
>> It would be great if there was a macro you could insert into a cw 
>> memory that sent incremental numbersfor example, store
> 
>> XXX 5NN TU de N2YTF
> 
>> In M4 and have the K3 automatically send
> 
>> 001 5NN TU de N2YTF
> 
> and the next time M4 is sent-
> 
> 002 5NN TU de N2YTF
> 
> This is not 'great' at all, Tom. What if the station is not 5NN? Not all 
> signals are RST599 at my QTH.  What you really need is a means for the 
> K3 to decode the readability, signal strength (from the S-meter) and 
> tone of the signal and be able to send those, together with a sequential 
> serial number, either in full numerals or shortened numerals.  Surely 
> that is not beyond the capabilities of the Aptos developers?
> 
> 73
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3

2009-05-31 Thread Phil Duff NA4M & Ann Duff
Don't all the mainstream contest logging software packages support 
sequential serial number generation that precludes the need to generate 
them in a keyer either outboard or in a radio?

73 Phil NA4M


David Wilburn wrote:
> Everyone is 59(9) in a contest.  There are keyers out there that 
> handle serial numbers.  As one example;
> http://www.idiompress.com/K5.html
> 
> I am sure there are more.
> 
> Signal reports only have relative value, especially in a contest.  The 
> fact that a contest station down the street with stacked beams and 
> multiple towers can pick you up 599 +20dB, is no indicator that my low 
> dipole can pick you up.
> 
> It is as they say, all relative.
> 
> 73 es gud DX
> 
> Dave Wilburn
> NM4M
> 
> David Pratt wrote:
>> In a recent message, Tom-N2YTF  wrote ...
>>> It would be great if there was a macro you could insert into a cw 
>>> memory that sent incremental numbersfor example, store
>>> XXX 5NN TU de N2YTF
>>> In M4 and have the K3 automatically send
>>> 001 5NN TU de N2YTF
>> and the next time M4 is sent-
>>
>> 002 5NN TU de N2YTF
>>
>> This is not 'great' at all, Tom. What if the station is not 5NN? Not all 
>> signals are RST599 at my QTH.  What you really need is a means for the 
>> K3 to decode the readability, signal strength (from the S-meter) and 
>> tone of the signal and be able to send those, together with a sequential 
>> serial number, either in full numerals or shortened numerals.  Surely 
>> that is not beyond the capabilities of the Aptos developers?
>>
>> 73
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3

2009-05-31 Thread R. Kevin Stover
Phil Duff NA4M & Ann Duff wrote:
> Don't all the mainstream contest logging software packages support 
> sequential serial number generation that precludes the need to generate 
> them in a keyer either outboard or in a radio?
>
> 73 Phil NA4M
>
>   
>
Yes.
I've got the Logikey K3 and it'll do everything but cook you're breakfast.
Never used it in a contest as the computer/K1EL winkeyer/software combo 
does the keying.

-- 
R. Kevin Stover
ACØH

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sending sequential serial numbers with

2009-05-31 Thread The Smiths

I'm sorry, but I'm actually Sickened by the idea that our hobby has come to the 
point where someone has such little will to actually participate in the actual 
contact.  I mean, if you can't even be bothered to send your own contact 
information, RST and call sign, why even bother being a Ham radio operator.  


Yes, I understand the need for the CQ perhaps.  It can be a long task finding 
someone to answer you,  But at least, in my opinion, if you don't have the 
enjoyment of the minimum follow through, Get off the air and give up the hobby. 
 You may as well be running a demo of a game on a computer.  What's the point.  


Now, I'm sure many of you other hams that only participate in contests and 
never get on the air otherwise, are going to slam me, but I just feel sad for 
the Ham community when I read posts like that one.

Maybe in the future you can set up a remote station, have it CQ for you, send 
the RST, sequential contact number and then sign off for the next QRZ.  All 
while your out in the back yard enjoying your BBQ or having a swim in the pool 
a thousand miles away in your vacation home. absolutely Disgusting LOL

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3

2009-05-31 Thread David Pratt
So why bother with sending reports in contests if they are meaningless, 
Dave?  I remember as a new young licensee in the 1950s we used to work 
in contests to get reports to see how well we were getting out. One of 
the contest rules of the day was that any station consistently getting 
tone reports less that 9 could be disqualified.  Those were the good old 
days.  Since then the world has gone mad.

If everyone is 599, why not just "NR 001" etc ?  I have to admit that on 
the rare occasions I work contest stations my reports are not always 
5NN.  They could be 5DN or even 5BN.

73

David

In a recent message, David Wilburn  writes
>
>Everyone is 59(9) in a contest.  There are keyers out there that
>handle serial numbers.  As one example;
>http://www.idiompress.com/K5.html
-- 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3

2009-05-31 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
David Pratt wrote:

So why bother with sending reports in contests if they are meaningless, 
Dave?



Yes. What ended interest in contesting for me was the demise of the signal
report (Actual "here's how I hear you" signal report that is...) Sure, many
signal reports are bogus, contest or not, but garnering dozens of reports
during a contest gave one a good idea of how their installation was working
and in what directions in spite of the sometimes sloppy, unrealistic
reports.

But too many people now think that hammering away on a computer for long
hours is actually a "sport" and signal reports are of no interest. That's
their choice. There seem to be many of them. I noticed in the contest
calendar posted here on the reflector for June that there's a contest for
almost *every day* of the month although most of them are piled on top of
each other on the weekends. 

Even so, there are many, many of us Hams for whom nothing could be more
boring than long hours of brief, preprogrammed exchanges.

On weekends like this you can always join us on 30, 17 and 12 meters. Like
40 and 20 meters, 30 and 17 meters are often open even during the sunspot
minimum and 12 can provide all the excitement of 10 when cdx are good.   

You'll find some interesting Hams, both local and DX, with real things to
say sending on *real* keys - often hand pumps and bugs - and you can
probably get a good signal report as well! 

73,

Ron AC7AC

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3

2009-05-31 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML


David Pratt wrote:
> So why bother with sending reports in contests if they are meaningless, 
> Dave?

It serves as a marker in the exchange - when you hear that ". -. -."
or "fi-ni", you know that what's coming next is the stuff you need to
copy and log.

Also, isn't an exchange of signal reports traditionally considered a
qualifier of a valid contact? Why do DXpeditions do it? Everyone's 59[9]
then too...


> I remember as a new young licensee in the 1950s we used to work 
> in contests to get reports to see how well we were getting out. One of 
> the contest rules of the day was that any station consistently getting 
> tone reports less that 9 could be disqualified.  Those were the good old 
> days.  Since then the world has gone mad.

I'm too young to remember the sane world :)

 ~Iain / N6ML

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3

2009-05-31 Thread westalto


Ah, yes, the days of the surplus tank radios! 



Doug 

W6JD 


- Original Message - 
From: "Iain MacDonnell - N6ML"  
To: "David Pratt"  
Cc: "Elecraft Reflector"  
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 3:11:40 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3]  Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3 



David Pratt wrote: 
> So why bother with sending reports in contests if they are meaningless, 
> Dave? 

It serves as a marker in the exchange - when you hear that ". -. -." 
or "fi-ni", you know that what's coming next is the stuff you need to 
copy and log. 

Also, isn't an exchange of signal reports traditionally considered a 
qualifier of a valid contact? Why do DXpeditions do it? Everyone's 59[9] 
then too... 


> I remember as a new young licensee in the 1950s we used to work 
> in contests to get reports to see how well we were getting out. One of 
> the contest rules of the day was that any station consistently getting 
> tone reports less that 9 could be disqualified.  Those were the good old 
> days.  Since then the world has gone mad. 

I'm too young to remember the sane world :) 

     ~Iain / N6ML 

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Factory-assembled K3/100 for sale

2009-05-31 Thread Kr01a
A trade hs been accepted for the K3.
 
Thanks to everyone who was interested.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3

2009-05-31 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Doug, W6JD wrote:

Ah, yes, the days of the surplus tank radios!

-

Heh, heh, used one of those briefly on 80 meters in the 1950's. From a WWII 
Russian tank, no less. Too much chirp and drift.

But more than rigs have changed. Back then contesting was something many did on 
occasion for fun, but contesting  was not the raison d'être for most Hams. 

Contesting is a lot like Grand Prix racing on the city streets in Europe. When 
the race is on, it's time for those not competing to keep off the road and 
watch. But, if there's a race every weekend, pretty soon it's tiring and 
frustrating not to be able to run to the store, take a leisurely trip to visit 
friends and do other non-racing things on the road. 

Also there are those racers who can't understand their behavior must change 
when the competition is over. A different set of rules commands daily 
activities on the road and on the Ham bands and those who don't understand that 
create chaos for others. 

I'm grateful for the WARC bands where I hang out during contests, but most of 
the guys with vintage gear would have to do some extensive mods to use them 
there. I appreciate their frustration over being almost locked out of their 
Hobby so many weekends. 

Ron AC7AC


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sending sequential serial numbers with

2009-05-31 Thread R. Kevin Stover
The Smiths wrote:
> I'm sorry, but I'm actually Sickened by the idea that our hobby has come to 
> the point where someone has such little will to actually participate in the 
> actual contact.  I mean, if you can't even be bothered to send your own 
> contact information, RST and call sign, why even bother being a Ham radio 
> operator.  
>
>
> Yes, I understand the need for the CQ perhaps.  It can be a long task finding 
> someone to answer you,  But at least, in my opinion, if you don't have the 
> enjoyment of the minimum follow through, Get off the air and give up the 
> hobby.  You may as well be running a demo of a game on a computer.  What's 
> the point.  
>
>
> Now, I'm sure many of you other hams that only participate in contests and 
> never get on the air otherwise, are going to slam me, but I just feel sad for 
> the Ham community when I read posts like that one.
>
> Maybe in the future you can set up a remote station, have it CQ for you, send 
> the RST, sequential contact number and then sign off for the next QRZ.  All 
> while your out in the back yard enjoying your BBQ or having a swim in the 
> pool a thousand miles away in your vacation home. absolutely Disgusting LOL
>   
I apologize for the stomach upset.

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ACØH

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sending sequential serial numbers with

2009-05-31 Thread Nick-WA5BDU
Me too.  I was having such fun in the contest, I had not idea it could 
be causing such pain in others. 

155 Qs, 61 countries and a nice little test drive for the K3 ...

73-

Nick, WA5BDU

R. Kevin Stover wrote:
>
> I apologize for the stomach upset.
>
>   

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for May 31st & June 1st, 2009

2009-05-31 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   Bands were tough today.  First the WPX folks were everywhere and they moved 
right on top of me at times.  Luckily I could close the filters down to where 
they were not dominant.  The second net was filled with a lot of dead air.  I 
programmed the rig to call CQ and read for a while.  I heard Pete at 599 but he 
could just barely hear me.  Other than that there was a guy running a tube rig 
with a nice bit of chirp.  It sounded very welcoming :)  I looked up his call 
and found a nice crystal controlled 6AQ5 rig.  Reminds me of my brother's rig 
in the early '60s.  You could warm your hands over it as long as you avoided 
contact with the HV :)  
   The weather has eased up from what is was on Friday and Saturday.  Still in 
the 80s but either I am getting used to it or it has cooled a little.  There is 
a high haze which may give us a break too.  I am pretty sure all of the summer 
birds have moved back.  From the sounds of things they are investigating and 
defending territories.  The ferns have gotten taller but are not done yet.  The 
fir and hemlock are adding new growth as seen by their bright green tips.  
Honeysuckle is just starting to bloom as are the False Solomon's Seal.  Both 
are early this year.  

On to the lists =>

  On 14050.5 kHz at 2300z:
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K3 - 657
N0SS - Tom - MO - K3 - 008
AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398
K6DGW - Fred - CA - K3 - 642
NO8V - John - MI - K3 - 820QNI #70!!!
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K3 - 1183* QNI #125 *
W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767  QNI #90

  On 7045.5 kHz at 0100z:
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K3 - 657
K7ROH - Tom - ID 

   Hopefully next week will have better propagation on forty meters and fewer 
occupants on twenty meters.  Seapac will be a nice cool visit next to the ocean 
but I do not expect to spend much money.  I'll bet the vendors are not 
expecting us to spend much either!  I am going to build the kits which have 
been in boxes since I purchased them and repair and mount the antennas I 
already have.  I will recycle the wind shorn antennas and craft a few new ones 
from the bits.  That should keep me busy in between cutting wood and working on 
the house.  The biting flies are almost done so my outside time can increase.  
Fire season is almost here which means I will not be able to burn outside for 
four or five months.  Even now it is chancy because this warm weather has 
really dried things out.  Luckily there is some rain in the forecast later this 
week.
   Until next Sunday stay well,
  73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS  (Net Control 5th Class)

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sending sequential serial numbers with

2009-05-31 Thread David Wilburn
Awesome Job!  Congrats.  I just jumped on a few times and hunted 
around for something interesting.

Dave Wilburn
NM4M

Nick-WA5BDU wrote:
> Me too.  I was having such fun in the contest, I had not idea it could 
> be causing such pain in others. 
> 
> 155 Qs, 61 countries and a nice little test drive for the K3 ...
> 
> 73-
> 
> Nick, WA5BDU
> 
> R. Kevin Stover wrote:
>> I apologize for the stomach upset.
>>
>>   
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3

2009-05-31 Thread David Wilburn
As a less experienced CW operator, the various portions of the 
exchange (especially during the more complicated exchanges) act as 
"markers" so I know what to listen for next.  In that sense it is more 
important than a signal report.

The signal report is a standard, a tradition.  That being said, there 
are variations that of propagation, local noise, QRN and QRM that 
limit its value.

But this is the fun that is ham radio.  If you want to contest, there 
are contests.  If you want to chase DX, you can do that.  If you want 
to rag chew, there is plenty of that going on.

Ham radio means different things to different people, and even 
different things to the same people, at different times in their life. 
  It is a pretty impressive hobby.

73, did not mean to stir things up.  Stay well, stay safe.

Dave Wilburn
NM4M

David Pratt wrote:
> So why bother with sending reports in contests if they are meaningless, 
> Dave?  I remember as a new young licensee in the 1950s we used to work 
> in contests to get reports to see how well we were getting out. One of 
> the contest rules of the day was that any station consistently getting 
> tone reports less that 9 could be disqualified.  Those were the good old 
> days.  Since then the world has gone mad.
> 
> If everyone is 599, why not just "NR 001" etc ?  I have to admit that on 
> the rare occasions I work contest stations my reports are not always 
> 5NN.  They could be 5DN or even 5BN.
> 
> 73
> 
> David
> 
> In a recent message, David Wilburn  writes
>> Everyone is 59(9) in a contest.  There are keyers out there that
>> handle serial numbers.  As one example;
>> http://www.idiompress.com/K5.html
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (5/31/09)

2009-05-31 Thread Phil and Christina
We had a short SSB net today (1800Z) on 14.316 MHz.  The signal levels were
terrible.  A couple of stations were S7/8, but most were S5 or weaker.
Probably half of the check-ins required net control to run the gain wide
open to (barely) copy. We had 14 participants including net control and ran
for only 13
minutes.  Signals were too weak for discussions.  Pray for sunspots.  Here
is a list of the 14 participants:

Station NameQTH Rig S/N

W6UONormCA  K3  755
KE4WY   Jim KY  K3  2165
AB9VMikeIN  K3  398
N1LQDaveMA  K3  371
W6WC/M  Tom CA  IC706
W2RWA   DickNY  K3  2603
W0FMTerry   MO  K3  474
K0EKL   DaveMN  K3  400
AC0NM   Glenn   WI  K3  2843
AE6IC   FredCA  K3  2241
AI4OH   RossFL  K3  869
K8EAG   BillMI  K3  99
N8OSD   Dan MI  FT857
NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826

Thanks to everybody who checked in.  Have a good week.

73,

Phil, NS7P

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Re: [Elecraft] Spare 2.7 khz filter

2009-05-31 Thread Jay Bromley
Hi Jim,
I should have one in a few days.  What say you?

73 de jay..


- Original Message - 
From: "Jim" 
To: "'Elecraft Reflector'" 
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 4:18 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Spare 2.7 khz filter


> 
> Anyone have a spare 2.7 Khz filter for the K-3 they would like to sell
> please reply to me off the list with your price shipped.
> 
> Thanks de KE4WY Jim
> 
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[Elecraft] HRD shuts down

2009-05-31 Thread OE5CSP-Chris

We habe been trying to use HRD with the K3 but the program shuts down after
some seconds. I use Windows Vista. The K3 is connected to the program in the
beginning(I can read the K3´s frequency), but then stops working(blue
screen). We believe that the USB to serial cable is causing troubles, but on
the other hand I can run the K3 utility without any problem with the same
cable and drivers.

73, Chris-OE5CSP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Background noise

2009-05-31 Thread Björn Mohr
On 24 maj 2009, at 15.55, Jay Rodaman wrote:

> I have a problem with noise in the shack.
> On transmit it is picked up by the mic. Other than lowering the RF  
> gain I understand that
> there is a setting which could reduce or eliminate this
> some where in the config.  Any tgoughts would be appreciated.

There's a noise gate in the K3 that will mute between words. Its easy  
to configure and fast enough for speech. It's will make sure your  
background noise is not amplified and processed between words. As  
other pointed out, a close talk microphone like the Heil HC4 or HC-5  
will help a lot. I am running the HC-4 + compression + gate and have  
no problem with my rather loud amplifier fans.

 From Wayne's FW release notes:

MCU 2.45 / DSP 1.92, 9-29-2008 * TRANSMIT NOISE GATE ADDED: The TX  
noise gate can be used to suppress transmitted audio below a certain  
level, e.g. a noisy fan (not the one on the K3, of course). To use the  
noise gate, locate CONFIG:TX GATE, tap ‘1’ to turn it ON, then use VFO  
A to set the desired threshold. Since there’s no visual indication  
that transmit audio is below the threshold, you should adjust it using  
the transmit voice monitor (MON), ideally using headphones. Set the  
threshold high enough to cut off transmit audio due to shack noise,  
but not so high that it causes your voice to dropout too frequently.  
The TX GATE threshold can be adjusted in TX TEST mode.

73 de Björn,
SM0MDG
SE0X





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