Re: [Elecraft] Re： [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood Lis t
From Guy Olinger K2AV Sunday, September 06, 2009 3:24 AM In general are you talking about CW or SSB or both? If SSB, I find that the controlling aspect of close signals is transmitted splatter, which no receiver can do anything to improve. Some really poor front ends make that worse. Hi Guy, Without doubt there are many SSB transmitters heard on the ham bands which do generate splatter, but the operator of a clean and properly driven SSB transmitter risks being accused of generating splatter by somebody whose receiver is generating the splatter. You have mentioned poor front ends, to which I would add poor filters (in terms of Group Delay Variations out to the stopband regions), and small dynamic range IF systems as found in many if not most commercial amateur receivers. If the ARRL would run complete dynamic range tests, then 'weak' IF systems would be exposed in the reviews. Transmitter generated splatter can be dealt with by a receiver, but the receiver's IF system MUST have a large in-passband 3rd order dynamic range if analog splatter removal techniques are used. 73, Geoff GM4ESD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List
Hi Geoff What do you mean by complete dynamic range tests ? Could give us a brief description of what these analog splatter removal techniques are and how they are used? 73 Craig VK3HE. Without doubt there are many SSB transmitters heard on the ham bands which do generate splatter, but the operator of a clean and properly driven SSB transmitter risks being accused of generating splatter by somebody whose receiver is generating the splatter. You have mentioned poor front ends, to which I would add poor filters (in terms of Group Delay Variations out to the stopband regions), and small dynamic range IF systems as found in many if not most commercial amateur receivers. If the ARRL would run complete dynamic range tests, then 'weak' IF systems would be exposed in the reviews. Transmitter generated splatter can be dealt with by a receiver, but the receiver's IF system MUST have a large in-passband 3rd order dynamic range if analog splatter removal techniques are used. 73, Geoff GM4ESD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KATU3 Beeps
Huh. You're right: both the ATU Tune and the XMIT Tune functions still beep even when CONFIG:SW TONE=OFF. I wonder if that's intentional? 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Sep 13, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Rob May wrote: My switch tones are off and I don't get beeps any other time, but I guess it doesn't disable the ATU tuning beeps. Lyle was able to tell me how to turn it down. 73, Rob NV5E CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net From: jp...@jeffnet.org To: roblitesp...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KATU3 Beeps Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:54:13 -0700 Elecraft calls them switch tones. Set CONFIG:SW TONE=OFF 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Sep 13, 2009, at 7:21 PM, Rob May wrote: When I hit the tune button to tune the ATU the beep is unbearably loud. How do I disable it? I searched the K3 manual, KAT3 manual, the manual erratta and firmware updates notes and the word 'beep' does not appear anywhere. I can't find it in the menu and config settings. Help! :-) Rob NV5E __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Remote control command - GET pitch freq?
I looked through the K3 Programmer's Reference manual but I can't find a command to retrieve the sidetone pitch frequency. Does anyone know of a way to do that either directly or indirectly? Thanks, Ted, W2ZK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] encoder testing. Critical to begin today.
Ouch! Fat fingers this morning on the keyboard! I did not mean to post this to the list. This is for incoming inspection on some of the encoders we use on the K3 Front Panel IF shift control etc. It is not an issue for K3s that have made it through production and final test. We caught a few encoders that were not electrically working correctly in our board test group last week as they tested FPs, so we are now testing the raw encoders 100% before they even go into the boards. This is a normal production quality procedure any time we find a problem on parts incoming from a vendor. (We also immediately contact the vendor to make sure no more come in that way.) This additional raw encoder test is to make sure there are no more questionable ones in stock before they are soldered into the PC boards. We also always 100% test these in OUR finished front panel boards before they go into a kit or built K3. (But we certainly try to catch bad ones before this stage so we don;t have to remove and replace them - a time consuming operation.) Quality is our top manufacturing priority. We are continually adapting our process to adapt and improve it where ever possible. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Radio Amateur N5GE wrote: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:01:59 -0700, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft e...@elecraft.com wrote: Thanks for keeping us posted, Eric. Tom, N5GE Please figure it out with Lisa today. This should not be a permanent thing, but needs to be done now. We can also use overtime is necessary. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Firmware releases
When will release 3.14 will be replaced by 3.25 or 3.3 or a separate firmware release containing components from those beta scripts?. 73 John, KE6GFF/T6EE K3#3271 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] encoder testing. Critical to begin today.
Me thinks this got to the list by mistake. Rob (who just replaced an encoder, out of warranty) :( NV5E Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:01:59 -0700 From: e...@elecraft.com To: v...@elecraft.com CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] encoder testing. Critical to begin today. Please figure it out with Lisa today. This should not be a permanent thing, but needs to be done now. We can also use overtime is necessary. e e Val Rosdahl wrote: Hi Eric, If this is an on going thing we are going to have to think about hiring someone to do this. Tami and Dina are the only ones I trust to do the test correctly. Tami is only going to be able to come in 2 days this week and I was going to have her QC W2 sheet metal. I can have Dina do it when I don't need her to test K3 PCBs. Val *From:* Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] *Sent:* Monday, September 14, 2009 8:49 AM *To:* Val; Lisa Jones - Elecraft Sales *Cc:* Victor Linderholm *Subject:* encoder testing. Critical to begin today. Val - we _must_ begin testing encoders today. Please work with Lisa if you need extra help. If you have questions on testing procedure, please work with Vic. He needs good ones for Christina immediately so she can replace bad ones in boards today. He can also give you an overall qty requirement. This is critical as we are seeing a high failure rate on these and need to catch them before they go into boards. Eric __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html _ Bing brings you health info from trusted sources. http://www.bing.com/search?q=pet+allergyform=MHEINApubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TXT_MHEINA_Health_Health_PetAllergy_1x1 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] encoder testing. Critical to begin today.
Please figure it out with Lisa today. This should not be a permanent thing, but needs to be done now. We can also use overtime is necessary. e e Val Rosdahl wrote: Hi Eric, If this is an on going thing we are going to have to think about hiring someone to do this. Tami and Dina are the only ones I trust to do the test correctly. Tami is only going to be able to come in 2 days this week and I was going to have her QC W2 sheet metal. I can have Dina do it when I don't need her to test K3 PCBs. Val *From:* Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] *Sent:* Monday, September 14, 2009 8:49 AM *To:* Val; Lisa Jones - Elecraft Sales *Cc:* Victor Linderholm *Subject:* encoder testing. Critical to begin today. Val - we _must_ begin testing encoders today. Please work with Lisa if you need extra help. If you have questions on testing procedure, please work with Vic. He needs good ones for Christina immediately so she can replace bad ones in boards today. He can also give you an overall qty requirement. This is critical as we are seeing a high failure rate on these and need to catch them before they go into boards. Eric __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] encoder testing. Critical to begin today.
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:01:59 -0700, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft e...@elecraft.com wrote: Thanks for keeping us posted, Eric. Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net Please figure it out with Lisa today. This should not be a permanent thing, but needs to be done now. We can also use overtime is necessary. e e Val Rosdahl wrote: Hi Eric, If this is an on going thing we are going to have to think about hiring someone to do this. Tami and Dina are the only ones I trust to do the test correctly. Tami is only going to be able to come in 2 days this week and I was going to have her QC W2 sheet metal. I can have Dina do it when I don't need her to test K3 PCBs. Val *From:* Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] *Sent:* Monday, September 14, 2009 8:49 AM *To:* Val; Lisa Jones - Elecraft Sales *Cc:* Victor Linderholm *Subject:* encoder testing. Critical to begin today. Val - we _must_ begin testing encoders today. Please work with Lisa if you need extra help. If you have questions on testing procedure, please work with Vic. He needs good ones for Christina immediately so she can replace bad ones in boards today. He can also give you an overall qty requirement. This is critical as we are seeing a high failure rate on these and need to catch them before they go into boards. Eric __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] encoder testing. Critical to begin today.
I find it refreshing that a vendor can make a mailing mistake and not feel totally devastated. To me, this is just another manifestation of the openness of Elecraft and the feeling of 'family' that it brings is very welcome. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever. -Chinese proverb On 14 Sep 2009, at 17:34, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: Ouch! Fat fingers this morning on the keyboard! I did not mean to post this to the list. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Remote control command - GET pitch freq?
Ted, The sequence to read sidetone pitch into a PC: Send the SWH42; command, Read back the contents of VFO A's display using the DS; command, Convert the string to an integer. The frequency shows as three digits starting at the seventh character of the string. This code fragment demonstrates: WriteComPortString(CSpec[SWH42].Cmd); sleep(20); WriteComPortString(CSpec[DS].Cmd); sleep(20); ReadComPortString(cString, CSpec[DS].RspZ); rc = atoi(cString[7]); // sidetone freq. 73, matt zilmer W6NIA K3 #24 On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:32:33 -0400, you wrote: I looked through the K3 Programmer's Reference manual but I can't find a command to retrieve the sidetone pitch frequency. Does anyone know of a way to do that either directly or indirectly? Thanks, Ted, W2ZK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 03:19:40 -0700 (PDT), Craig vk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Geoff What do you mean by complete dynamic range tests ? Could give us a brief description of what these analog splatter removal techniques are and how they are used? 73 Craig VK3HE. Here we go again. I thought a request to close this thread was made several days ago. Why not continue the discussion off line by communicating directly? Thanks, Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Need help operating K3 with Yaesu Quadra amplifier
I'm trying to find the correct sequence of steps to make sure my new Quadra amplifier is correctly adjusted to my K3. I have it hooked through the Band-Data1 8-pin cable and the Quadra does change bands correctly as it tracks the K3. The Quadra also switches to the correctly programmed input and/or output spigots. All that is fine. Taken from the Quadra Operating Manual, Drive power must be at least 50 watts for accurate SWR detection, and 70 to 80 watts for optimum tuner performance. The problem is primarily in keying the K3 properly to allow the Quadra's antenna tuner to adjust properly. The Quadra requires 70-80 watts to tune correctly so I need to key the K3 with the TUNE button which puts out 5 watts as it's set up. (I realize that I could reset the TUNE output to start at a higher rate but surely that's not the best way) Otherwise, I must press TUNE, crank the PWR knob from the 5 watts up to 70-80 watts, then press the TUNE button on the Quadra but the amplifier keys for about a second as the tuner starts to tune, then drops out, displaying the message ERROR on the display. Now I'm back to 5 watts on the K3 again so after pressing the K3's TUNE button again I must crank on the PWR knob again (which is about 4 full revolutions). For as many times as I try this, the K3 will not stay keyed up long enough for the Quadra to tune the antenna. BTW - I don't see any error messages from the K3 during this time. Using the same amplifier but with my IC-756PRO as a driver [in RTTY mode at about 70 watts -- with no physical connections for band changing] it reads the frequency/band and automatically changes bands and I can press the Quadra's TUNE button and it tunes up perfectly. Quickly, painlessly and correctly -- one easy operation which takes, at most, about 5 seconds. Realizing that all is normal with the Quadra, tuner and antenna I switch the input of the Quadra back to the K3 (which changes the PTT, ALC and RF input lines), then I try the K3 TUNE again. I crank up the PWR knob from 5 watts to 70-80 watts, press the Quadra's TUNE button but I see the same thing: it trys to tune for about a second, then drops back with the ERROR message. The K3 just doesn't seem to want to stay in TUNE mode (which is displaying CW) until the amplifier tuner can complete its job. [It's not because it got tuned up properly with the PRO as the Quadra will always reinitiate a tune when so instructed with the TUNE button] I've read everything I can find on hooking up the Quadra, both to the K3 and to other transceivers. There's LOTS of excellent documentation out there and I appreciate all the work from those folks. I'm relatively sure that my hookup between the two is fine. I guess what I'm asking is -- What are the steps used by other K3/Quadra users to change a band and make sure the Quadra's tuner is properly tuned. What am I missing to keep the K3 transmitting until the Quadra can complete its tune operation? It's just so easy with the PRO and so hard with the K3, but perhaps it's something I'm overlooking or doing incorrectly (-- major possibility) BTW - The Quadra will memorize the tuning positions for various frequencies for different antennas so I guess I could let the IC-756PRO to do all the set up but I'm trying to wean myself away from the 756PRO and do everything on my K3. The K3 shines in SO MANY places, it just should be able to be easy here too. Also, last week on the yaesuqua...@yahoogroups.com, a fellow presented a wonderful document listing, for someone else, on the steps to tune up the Quadra to a couple of different transceivers. It looked so neat and I thought it was exactly what I needed. Unfortunately, it did not work for my K3/Quadra combination. rats! Sorry for the long note but is there any hope for me? ... let me re-phrase that is there any HELP for me? Thanks and 73, Jim - K5LAD - Growing old is like being increasingly penalized for a crime you haven't committed. -- Anthony Powell --- Visit my web page at: www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/ = __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Remote control command - GET pitch freq?
Perfect! Thanks Matt! 73, Ted, W2ZK Matt Zilmer wrote: Ted, The sequence to read sidetone pitch into a PC: Send the SWH42; command, Read back the contents of VFO A's display using the DS; command, Convert the string to an integer. The frequency shows as three digits starting at the seventh character of the string. This code fragment demonstrates: WriteComPortString(CSpec[SWH42].Cmd); sleep(20); WriteComPortString(CSpec[DS].Cmd); sleep(20); ReadComPortString(cString, CSpec[DS].RspZ); rc = atoi(cString[7]); // sidetone freq. 73, matt zilmer W6NIA K3 #24 On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:32:33 -0400, you wrote: I looked through the K3 Programmer's Reference manual but I can't find a command to retrieve the sidetone pitch frequency. Does anyone know of a way to do that either directly or indirectly? Thanks, Ted, W2ZK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] encoder testing. Critical to begin today.
And Jennifer EI7GCB says here here here. David Ferrington, M0XDF writes: I find it refreshing that a vendor can make a mailing mistake and not feel totally devastated. To me, this is just another manifestation of the openness of Elecraft and the feeling of 'family' that it brings is very welcome. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever. -Chinese proverb On 14 Sep 2009, at 17:34, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: Ouch! Fat fingers this morning on the keyboard! I did not mean to post this to the list. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Manuals for W2 and K144XV
When will we be able to read the manuals for the above products? Thanks, Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List
Hi Craig, The spacing of the two test signals used to determine a receiver's 3rd Order Dynamic Range (IMMDR3) should include tests with both test signals inside the receiver's *overall* passband, which in the case of receivers designed for amateur use would provide us with some measure of receiver performance in the presence of strong QRM inside the IF passband (and up on the filter skirts) e.g. in a no-split pileup. The results of tests, in which the spacing between the two test signals is much greater than the receiver's overall passband, do not provide this measure of performance because the IF and stages which follow see only one healthy test signal due to the presence of an IF filter, e.g. 2 kHz spacing with 400 Hz filter. Thus the post filter stages do not or should not generate significant IMD products during this test. In reality these test results reflect the IMDDR3 of the front end, sometimes coloured by the input crystals of the filter. The phase noise generated by the test equipment must be suitably low of course. Deliberately I am not making comment on the effects of receiver LO phase noise, nor multi-signal IMDDR3 evaluation. Sorry to be slow to reply and brief, we have visitors staying. I will reply to you later about splatter removal. 73, Geoff GM4ESD - Original Message - From: Craig vk...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:19 AM Hi Geoff What do you mean by complete dynamic range tests ? Could give us a brief description of what these analog splatter removal techniques are and how they are used? 73 Craig VK3HE. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Need help operating K3 with Yaesu Quadra amplifier
Jim, Set the K3 to operate CW in SSB mode first. Hope this helps 73 Ken K5DNL -- --- On Mon, 9/14/09, jpk5...@cox.net jpk5...@cox.net wrote: From: jpk5...@cox.net jpk5...@cox.net Subject: [Elecraft] Need help operating K3 with Yaesu Quadra amplifier To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:26 AM I'm trying to find the correct sequence of steps to make sure my new Quadra amplifier is correctly adjusted to my K3. I have it hooked through the Band-Data1 8-pin cable and the Quadra does change bands correctly as it tracks the K3. The Quadra also switches to the correctly programmed input and/or output spigots. All that is fine. Taken from the Quadra Operating Manual, Drive power must be at least 50 watts for accurate SWR detection, and 70 to 80 watts for optimum tuner performance. The problem is primarily in keying the K3 properly to allow the Quadra's antenna tuner to adjust properly. The Quadra requires 70-80 watts to tune correctly so I need to key the K3 with the TUNE button which puts out 5 watts as it's set up. (I realize that I could reset the TUNE output to start at a higher rate but surely that's not the best way) Otherwise, I must press TUNE, crank the PWR knob from the 5 watts up to 70-80 watts, then press the TUNE button on the Quadra but the amplifier keys for about a second as the tuner starts to tune, then drops out, displaying the message ERROR on the display. Now I'm back to 5 watts on the K3 again so after pressing the K3's TUNE button again I must crank on the PWR knob again (which is about 4 full revolutions). For as many times as I try this, the K3 will not stay keyed up long enough for the Quadra to tune the antenna. BTW - I don't see any error messages from the K3 during this time. Using the same amplifier but with my IC-756PRO as a driver [in RTTY mode at about 70 watts -- with no physical connections for band changing] it reads the frequency/band and automatically changes bands and I can press the Quadra's TUNE button and it tunes up perfectly. Quickly, painlessly and correctly -- one easy operation which takes, at most, about 5 seconds. Realizing that all is normal with the Quadra, tuner and antenna I switch the input of the Quadra back to the K3 (which changes the PTT, ALC and RF input lines), then I try the K3 TUNE again. I crank up the PWR knob from 5 watts to 70-80 watts, press the Quadra's TUNE button but I see the same thing: it trys to tune for about a second, then drops back with the ERROR message. The K3 just doesn't seem to want to stay in TUNE mode (which is displaying CW) until the amplifier tuner can complete its job. [It's not because it got tuned up properly with the PRO as the Quadra will always reinitiate a tune when so instructed with the TUNE button] I've read everything I can find on hooking up the Quadra, both to the K3 and to other transceivers. There's LOTS of excellent documentation out there and I appreciate all the work from those folks. I'm relatively sure that my hookup between the two is fine. I guess what I'm asking is -- What are the steps used by other K3/Quadra users to change a band and make sure the Quadra's tuner is properly tuned. What am I missing to keep the K3 transmitting until the Quadra can complete its tune operation? It's just so easy with the PRO and so hard with the K3, but perhaps it's something I'm overlooking or doing incorrectly (-- major possibility) BTW - The Quadra will memorize the tuning positions for various frequencies for different antennas so I guess I could let the IC-756PRO to do all the set up but I'm trying to wean myself away from the 756PRO and do everything on my K3. The K3 shines in SO MANY places, it just should be able to be easy here too. Also, last week on the yaesuqua...@yahoogroups.com, a fellow presented a wonderful document listing, for someone else, on the steps to tune up the Quadra to a couple of different transceivers. It looked so neat and I thought it was exactly what I needed. Unfortunately, it did not work for my K3/Quadra combination. rats! Sorry for the long note but is there any hope for me? ... let me re-phrase that is there any HELP for me? Thanks and 73, Jim - K5LAD - Growing old is like being increasingly penalized for a crime you haven't committed. -- Anthony Powell --- Visit my web page at: www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/ = __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Re: [Elecraft] Need help operating K3 with Yaesu Quadra amplifier
Jim, This will key the K3 and it will put out whatever power you have it set for, I set mine for 55 watts. 73 Ken K5DNL --- --- On Mon, 9/14/09, Ken Roberson kwrober...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Ken Roberson kwrober...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need help operating K3 with Yaesu Quadra amplifier To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, jpk5...@cox.net Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 1:07 PM Jim, Set the K3 to operate CW in SSB mode first. Hope this helps 73 Ken K5DNL -- --- On Mon, 9/14/09, jpk5...@cox.net jpk5...@cox.net wrote: From: jpk5...@cox.net jpk5...@cox.net Subject: [Elecraft] Need help operating K3 with Yaesu Quadra amplifier To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:26 AM I'm trying to find the correct sequence of steps to make sure my new Quadra amplifier is correctly adjusted to my K3. I have it hooked through the Band-Data1 8-pin cable and the Quadra does change bands correctly as it tracks the K3. The Quadra also switches to the correctly programmed input and/or output spigots. All that is fine. Taken from the Quadra Operating Manual, Drive power must be at least 50 watts for accurate SWR detection, and 70 to 80 watts for optimum tuner performance. The problem is primarily in keying the K3 properly to allow the Quadra's antenna tuner to adjust properly. The Quadra requires 70-80 watts to tune correctly so I need to key the K3 with the TUNE button which puts out 5 watts as it's set up. (I realize that I could reset the TUNE output to start at a higher rate but surely that's not the best way) Otherwise, I must press TUNE, crank the PWR knob from the 5 watts up to 70-80 watts, then press the TUNE button on the Quadra but the amplifier keys for about a second as the tuner starts to tune, then drops out, displaying the message ERROR on the display. Now I'm back to 5 watts on the K3 again so after pressing the K3's TUNE button again I must crank on the PWR knob again (which is about 4 full revolutions). For as many times as I try this, the K3 will not stay keyed up long enough for the Quadra to tune the antenna. BTW - I don't see any error messages from the K3 during this time. Using the same amplifier but with my IC-756PRO as a driver [in RTTY mode at about 70 watts -- with no physical connections for band changing] it reads the frequency/band and automatically changes bands and I can press the Quadra's TUNE button and it tunes up perfectly. Quickly, painlessly and correctly -- one easy operation which takes, at most, about 5 seconds. Realizing that all is normal with the Quadra, tuner and antenna I switch the input of the Quadra back to the K3 (which changes the PTT, ALC and RF input lines), then I try the K3 TUNE again. I crank up the PWR knob from 5 watts to 70-80 watts, press the Quadra's TUNE button but I see the same thing: it trys to tune for about a second, then drops back with the ERROR message. The K3 just doesn't seem to want to stay in TUNE mode (which is displaying CW) until the amplifier tuner can complete its job. [It's not because it got tuned up properly with the PRO as the Quadra will always reinitiate a tune when so instructed with the TUNE button] I've read everything I can find on hooking up the Quadra, both to the K3 and to other transceivers. There's LOTS of excellent documentation out there and I appreciate all the work from those folks. I'm relatively sure that my hookup between the two is fine. I guess what I'm asking is -- What are the steps used by other K3/Quadra users to change a band and make sure the Quadra's tuner is properly tuned. What am I missing to keep the K3 transmitting until the Quadra can complete its tune operation? It's just so easy with the PRO and so hard with the K3, but perhaps it's something I'm overlooking or doing incorrectly (-- major possibility) BTW - The Quadra will memorize the tuning positions for various frequencies for different antennas so I guess I could let the IC-756PRO to do all the set up but I'm trying to wean myself away from the 756PRO and do everything on my K3. The K3 shines in SO MANY places, it just should be able to be easy here too. Also, last week on the yaesuqua...@yahoogroups.com, a fellow presented a wonderful document listing, for someone else, on the steps to tune up the Quadra to a couple of different transceivers. It looked so neat and I thought it was exactly what I needed. Unfortunately, it did not work for my K3/Quadra combination. rats! Sorry for the long note but is there any hope for me? ... let me re-phrase that
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I have for sale my Elecraft K1-4, four band QRP transceiver covering the lower 80 khz of the 40, 30, 20 and 15 meter bands. The K1 includes the following options, KAT1 auto antenna tuner, KNB1 noise blanker, KBT1 internal battery pack and the K1BKL display back light. It will be shipped with all manuals and power cord The radio is in new condition, I built this radio this past spring (2009). There are no scratches dings or dents and it meets all Elecraft specs. Also included is a professionally built tilt stand built at a local machine shop, very nice. Pictures on request. You will not be disappointed with this rig. Sale price is $499.95 plus shipping from 27048. Reason for selling is to fund a new project, I want a KPA100 for my K2. If you have one built or in kit form, maybe we could work something out. Brent WB4X __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 Experimenting with HRD 4.1 using KUSB - New to this...
K2 06660 using KUSB (Univ Serial Bus Adapter fm Elecraft) and trying out Ham Radio Deluxe 4.1. Works on two computers same: 1 Windows XP Pro and Sony Laptop running Vista Commercial. I must be doing something wrong as display slow to update (I set 100 MS) but jumps around a lot, even changing bands. Maybe I have noise in cable? Appreciate lead to forum/discussion of getting these to work together. 73 DE AF6TB, Tom __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4425 (20090914) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] W2
The Shipping Status page (last updated August 7) states the W2 is scheduled for shipping 8/30 to 9/7. I ordered two kits but no katiegram so far... and no manual on the Web site. Any news? Richard - HB9ANM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List
Maybe some of the rest of us K3 users are interested. --- On Mon, 9/14/09, Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com wrote: From: Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 9:44 AM On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 03:19:40 -0700 (PDT), Craig vk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Geoff What do you mean by complete dynamic range tests ? Could give us a brief description of what these analog splatter removal techniques are and how they are used? 73 Craig VK3HE. Here we go again. I thought a request to close this thread was made several days ago. Why not continue the discussion off line by communicating directly? Thanks, Tom, N5GE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Re: [Elecraft] Need help operating K3 with Yaesu Quadra amplifier
No actually you have to set the tun pwr config setting to NOR (I believe) in order to get that to happen... On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 11:10 -0700, Ken Roberson wrote: Jim, This will key the K3 and it will put out whatever power you have it set for, I set mine for 55 watts. 73 Ken K5DNL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Need help operating K3 with Yaesu Quadra amplifier
Jim, I do not have a Quadra, but I can think of at least 2 ways to accomplish what you are trying to do. Neither of which involve using the TUNE button. 1) Switch to CW mode - set the Power knob to the 70 to 80 watt range and close the key (it does not have to be a key, just a switch or pushbutton plugged into the KEY jack (but a straight key will do if you have one). 2) Set the K3 for CW in SSB (so you will not have to change to CW mode) and close the key or switch as above. 73, Don W3FPR jpk5...@cox.net wrote: I'm trying to find the correct sequence of steps to make sure my new Quadra amplifier is correctly adjusted to my K3. I have it hooked through the Band-Data1 8-pin cable and the Quadra does change bands correctly as it tracks the K3. The Quadra also switches to the correctly programmed input and/or output spigots. All that is fine. Taken from the Quadra Operating Manual, Drive power must be at least 50 watts for accurate SWR detection, and 70 to 80 watts for optimum tuner performance. The problem is primarily in keying the K3 properly to allow the Quadra's antenna tuner to adjust properly. The Quadra requires 70-80 watts to tune correctly so I need to key the K3 with the TUNE button which puts out 5 watts as it's set up. (I realize that I could reset the TUNE output to start at a higher rate but surely that's not the best way) Otherwise, I must press TUNE, crank the PWR knob from the 5 watts up to 70-80 watts, then press the TUNE button on the Quadra but the amplifier keys for about a second as the tuner starts to tune, then drops out, displaying the message ERROR on the display. Now I'm back to 5 watts on the K3 again so after pressing the K3's TUNE button again I must crank on the PWR knob again (which is about 4 full revolutions). For as many times as I try this, the K3 will not stay keyed up long enough for the Quadra to tune the antenna. BTW - I don't see any error messages from the K3 during this time. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] My K2
Hector, And thanks to you for that glowing endorsement. I hope I can continue to live up to it for some long time to come. 73, Don W3FPR Hector Padron wrote: I wanted to tell the group about my latest experience with Don Wilheim W3FPR. I got 2 months ago a fully loaded K2 in very clean condition and even it was working fairly well,it had some issues with bad alignment having the four filters not well aligned plus excessive power output on some bands and also not enough power on cw on other bands,the RX was quite as my K3. So,I called Elecraft to ask if they could realign it for me,they said to me on the phone that the best engineer in the whole country who could do the best alignment job on my radio was Don,so with that excellent reference certainly after contact him I shiped my K2. The radio arrived yesterday and If I was happy before with it, now I am way happier,it receives quiter,better audio quality than before and the TX audio is super,the radio changed completely after his good alignment work,the turnaround delay was just 11 days in the whole process,radio spent more time travelling than at his bench,he even sent me a detailed sheet with all the work done in my radio. Guys I have to tell you that this is a profesional service and he deserve my respect.I will recomend him to work on any of your K2's for sure.Serious decent engineers like Don to service Elecraft radios is what we need. Thanks again Don,radio is working great now/ AD4C The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. -- Albert Einstein --- On Sun, 9/13/09, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] xv432 To: ron hamsh...@iowatelecom.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 6:39 PM Ron, It certainly seems that way to me - those are Normally Open contacts and the relay coil is activated by 12T which is only active during transmit. Disconnect everything from the Ant jack (J1) and measure the resistance between the center conductor of J1 to ground - it should be fairly high if all is well. 73, Don W3FPR ron wrote: am i thinking right that k10 grounds during xmit and is open on receive. i think it's stuck in xmit on mine. ron __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.94/2367 - Release Date: 09/13/09 05:50:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (9-13-09)
Dear Phil, Tried to join the SSB net Sunday morning PDT. Couldn't even hear NC. Just noise. Two problems: First, there seems to be a carrier just above 14.316 that's there week after week. (At least here on the CA coast.) I wonder if something could be done about the carrier, say moving the net to 14.314. I can null it out, but can't afford the loss of signal that entails. Second, I have S8-9 RFI noise here in urban San Francisco on 20 meters. The RFI is my problem, of course. Very frustrating. I'm working on a loop receiving antenna. Stay tuned. I wonder if maybe the net could be moved to 40 meters until the MUF increases? Or maybe two nets, one on 20 and one on 40 like the CW nets do? 73, Oliver Johns W6ODJ - K3 #1741 On 13 Sep 2009, at 20:56, Phil and Christina wrote: We had a very short and sparse SSB net today on 14.316 MHz. The signal levels were not very good. We only had 12 participants including net control and ran for 11 minutes. My apologies to KB9BNI, but I was unable to pull your rig information through. Here is a list of the 12 participants: Station NameQTH Rig S/N W0FM Terry MO K3 474 K4GCJ GaryNC K3 1597 AD5SX PaulNM Jupiter K4SO MarkVA K3 2861 W8OV DaveTX K3 3139 AE5JD BartTX K3 2106 WB6HPFAl CA K3 974 W4PFM PaulVA K3 1673 KB9BNIJohnIN N0TA JohnCO K3 994 AE6IC FredCA K3 2241 NS7P PhilOR K3 1826 Thanks to everybody who checked in. Have a good week. 73, Phil, NS7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
