[Elecraft] RX gain calibration enhancement

2009-10-08 Thread Brett Howard
So if someone has the 50uV elecraft generator (and can do 1uV as well)
why can't the gain calibration feature also calibrate the S-Meter as
well?  Just add the insertion of a 1uV signal after the 50uV signal
allows the rig to linearize things and set the S9 point and then you can
set your offset and slopes and what not...

~BTH

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Re: [Elecraft] ATU TUNE does not work in DATA A Split mode

2009-10-08 Thread Ken K3IU
You need to make sure both VFO A & B are in the same mode, else you will 
get N/A.
Ken K3IU

Steve Ellington wrote:
> How are you getting split in data A? When I push SPLIT I get SPL N/A.
>
> Steve
> N4LQ
> n...@carolina.rr.com
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Chuck - AE4CW" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:30 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] ATU TUNE does not work in DATA A Split mode
>
>
>   
>> Has anyone noticed that ATU TUNE does not work (properly) when in DATA A
>> Split mode?  The relays clatter for about three seconds but no RF is
>> produced and no SWR reading is resolved.  If I drop Split, ATU TUNE works
>> fine.  I'd appreciate if someone else could verify if their K3 is behaving
>> the same way.  FW is 03.41.  Thanks.
>>
>> P.S. ATU TUNE Split mode works FB in AFSK A and FSK D.  Split is N/A in 
>> PSK
>> D.
>>
>> Chuck, AE4CW
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[Elecraft] Want to buy N-Gen

2009-10-08 Thread Mike Geddes
Anyone have one for sale?  Let me know.

Thanks and 73,

Mike
N4JX
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[Elecraft] Coarse tune rounding function and .5 rate- Operating tip

2009-10-08 Thread Bob Allen
Well this is a hit as far as I'm concerned.
This will let you go through the band at a good rate but not too fast.

Set /VFO OFS/ to *on *this makes the* *RIT/XIT tuning knob tune at the 
coarse tuning rate

Set /VFO CRS/: to *.5, *  (this is a "per mode" setting but I only use 
it on sideband) I believe this is also a recent feature but I can't find 
when it showed up.

Then set VFO COARSE STEP ROUNDING to *yes
** *Here is how: "Tap '1' in the VFO CRS menu entry
 to select RND=NO or YES. If YES, the VFO frequency will be rounded off 
during COARSE tuning. This menu entry also sets the per-mode COARSE step 
size. Note: The RIT/XIT control moves the VFO in coarse steps if RIT and 
XIT are not in use (use CONFIG:VFO OFS to turn this on/off).
This only works with software version 3.41, new feature.

This only works if you don't use RIT/XIT

The advantage is that you can leave the main tuning knob in Fine tune 
rate and go through the  band at a what I consider to be a perfect rate 
that allows you to look for signals and if they are not right on the 
even or half KC you use the main VFO knob to zero in. This is very 
quick. Most signals are right on the even or half KC.

Hope this helps.
Great radio
Bob
KB1FRW
73
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[Elecraft] (no subject)

2009-10-08 Thread Steven Zabarnick
This leads to the obvious follow-on suggest: Since the XG-2 signal  
generator is used to calibrate the RF gain and the S-meter, why not  
include the XG-2 generator as an internal feature of future versions  
of the K3 (or K4)?

Steve N9SZ


Brett Howard said:

-So if someone has the 50uV elecraft generator (and can do 1uV as well)
-why can't the gain calibration feature also calibrate the S-Meter as
-well?  Just add the insertion of a 1uV signal after the 50uV signal
-allows the rig to linearize things and set the S9 point and then you  
can
-set your offset and slopes and what not...
  
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[Elecraft] V3.41 NR tone

2009-10-08 Thread Steven Zabarnick
I’d like someone with a similar K3 configuration to help me diagnose  
a problem by doing a test.

Required K3 configuration:
Filters- 2.7 kHz in FL1 and 500 kHz in FL2
KAT3 ATU
KXV3
KPA3 100 watt amp
V3.41 firmware

In cw mode, set your filter width to greater than 500 Hz to engage the  
2.7 kHz filter in FL1. In the Config Menu set SW TONE to ON. Set the  
NR to FL1-1, and cycle the NR on and off.

Do you hear a continuous tone when NR is cycled on?

Thanks.

Steve N9SZ
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Audio Mods

2009-10-08 Thread Bob W9RFS

I have K3 #995 with mcu3.41, dsp2.37 and I have kept up with all the factory
audio mods to date. I swapped out my main dsp board for a new one from
Elecraft in August. At the time I was running mcu3.25, dsp2.21 and after the
swap I noticed improved low feq. response. I believe mcu3.25, dsp2.21 was
the FW pre-release that had the surprise extended low freq response.  With
the latest firmware I am still enjoying improved low freq response and
perhaps it is even a little better; based on my crude estimates using
spectrogram16 while listening to AM broadcast band stations. Because of the
timing of my dsp board swap with the loading of the latest beta firmware, I
was never really certain what led to the improvement. Is it the hardware or
the firmtware, or are both required for older K3's?  
Bob W9RFS

"The audio passband shift changes in the latest K3 beta firmware release
served as a reminder that the K3 audio mods on N1EU's website needed 
updating.  Barry recently made those changes and they're available through 
the link below:

http://n1eu.com/K3/k3audiomod.htm

Whether Elecraft is, or will in the future, offer a Main DSP Board swap-out 
program is best answered by Elecraft.  Swapping the board is certainly much 
easier than changing multiple SMT parts for the affected Rx and Tx audio 
paths.  My understanding is that the new Main DSP Board is already part of 
new K3s going out the door.  However, I am unsure as to what S/N the cut-in 
occurred.  Clarification from Elecraft on these points would be very 
helpful.

Paul, W9AC "

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Re: [Elecraft] Yamahs CM500 Headset

2009-10-08 Thread Ignacy

I compared Yamaha CM500 to my other headset: Sony 32 Ohms headphones with
Heil HC5 attached via piece of wire and wrapped with electrical tape.

The Yamaha headphones are better partly because they are 130 Ohm and
therefore copy more low tones. But they completely cover the ears and I
don't hear when my wife is calling (for dinner etc).

The electret microphone has lots of gain but catches lots of breath, unlike
HC5. It requires equalization to be as effective as HC5 but in the end does
not sound as smooth. It gains much more high frequency response when them
other side of the microphone is blocked. Also there is some echo. 

In QSOs, locals prefer YAMAHA because of the low frequency response, DX
prefer HC5 because of clarity, and for some there is no difference. 

It seems that in pileups HC5 is more efficient while being comfortable in
rag chewing. Because K3 is competitive radio and that;s why I bought it, I
am inclined to break the electret enclosure in CM500 and somehow attach HC5
there. 

Any comments? Is HC5 that good? Can one find as good electret element? 

Ignacy


 



Lu Romero - W4LT wrote:
> 
> All:
> 
> Im a "punch" guy and not a "hi-fi" guy.  I do hi fi at work.
>  I own a couple of Heils (a BM-10 and a ProSet) with the "DX
> Element" which are good for contesting but often sound a
> little too "in your face" for non contest work.
> 
> I considered the Yamaha, but I find that it is sometimes
> difficult to "interchange" phantom powered electrets when
> traveling to other stations for contests. 
> 
> I have found a very good alternative to both in the Koss
> SB-40.  It is stereo, has a 1/8 stereo plug and has all the
> features of the CM500, but uses a dynamic mic.  The cord is
> incredibly long, but a RipTie fixes that.  It is also a full
> ear cup model with huge transducers, and fits my head more
> comfortably that the ProSets do especially because I wear
> glasses.  The ProSet's earcups are much harder than the
> SB-40's and leave a gap.  The Koss seals around the glasses
> perfectly, keeping sound out, without pushing the glasses
> into my temples.
> 
> Worst thing is that it doesnt have a single outlet for the
> cords on one earcup, but I consider this minor.
> 
> Admittedly, the SB-40 headphone is really "bassy".  Guess
> Gamers like those big explosions to rock their heads around
> (listen to Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon with these,
> you will see!).  This bass effect is easily fixed with some
> RX EQ,  but then K3 doesnt have much bass response, except
> when using V3.25 firmware.  Wonder when that promised bass
> will make its return!  Soon I hope! :)
> 
> The mic is very flat in response but shifts towards the
> bassy side with a marked proximity effect, but TX
> equalization takes care of that.  After processing, I can
> acheive a similar sound to the DX Element but with less
> harshness and a very nice bass undertone around 150-200Hz
> when close-talked which, in my opinion, may add to
> intelegibility on the low bands.  The K3's EQ capabilities
> can make this mic sound any way you want to sound, from DX
> punch to ESSB.
> 
> I still like the "penetration" of a well EQ'd DX Element in
> a contest, but these are smooth and broad and seem to
> complement my particular K3.  They are EXTREMELY
> comfortable, more so than the ProSet, and very ruggedly
> constructed, too!  
> 
> They cost around $30 at Full Compass.
> 
> I will probably use them for CQ-WW-SSB.
> 
> -lu-W4LT-
> 
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:11:17 -0700
> From: "Jim Brown" 
> Subject: [Elecraft] Yamahs CM500 Headset
> To: "Elecraft List" 
> Message-ID: <20090915161121.80bcd57...@gw1.nlenet.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 18:42:31 -0700, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
> 
>>I just tried out my new Yamaha CM500 as well.
> 
> 
> Several of the guys in our contest club have bought these
> headsets 
> and fired them up with their K3s. One of them, W6XU, brought
> one to 
> our meeting last night, and I tried it on. It is quite
> comfortable, 
> and well built. The headphones are of the "big closed" type
> that 
>  provide some isolation from noise in the shack. They are
> NOT active, 
> noise-cancelling type. 
> The mic is a cardioid electret.   
> 
> Another of the guys, K6TD, had me listen to his on the air.
> It 
> sounded very good with no tweaking of the K3, and with
> tweaking, 
> produced very competitive audio. The tweaking consisted of
> using 
> maximum cut on the three lowest filters, 6dB boost at 2.4
> kHz, and 
> 10 dB boost at 3.2 kHz. I also had him kick in about 10dB of
> processing. This eq is consistent with most mics designed
> for SSB 
> communications use (like the Shure and Heil products). The 
> difference is that this headset sells for only $45 online at
> Sam Ash 
> with free shipping, a bit more at other vendors. For those
> who don't 
> know, Yamaha is a well respected audio company. 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Jim Brown K9YC
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] RX gain calibration enhancement

2009-10-08 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
The RF Gain procedure does not presume the XG1/2, but is written for any
50uv source available. If the procedure combines those two signal levels,
then equipment capable of supplying both 50uv and 1uv is necessary to run
the RF Gain calibration at all.

It works very well btw. S meter is now linear from S0 to 60 over after RF
gain calibration.  It had been cramped above S9 where only 30 dB increase
would take it to 60 over on the meter. Now 6 db per click below S9 and 5 db
per click above.  Nice.

I have both an XG1 and an XG2.  Going to put a 160m crystal in the XG1. Need
portable, stable signal source on 160.

73, Guy.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Brett Howard wrote:

> So if someone has the 50uV elecraft generator (and can do 1uV as well)
> why can't the gain calibration feature also calibrate the S-Meter as
> well?  Just add the insertion of a 1uV signal after the 50uV signal
> allows the rig to linearize things and set the S9 point and then you can
> set your offset and slopes and what not...
>
> ~BTH
>
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[Elecraft] Manual suggestions

2009-10-08 Thread Bob Allen
Hi again,
The owner's manual must be a difficult thing to deal with the radio 
changing weekly.
But as a user I find that the manual could be improved so I thought I'd 
throw out a few suggestions.
Use the power of PDFs by linking all the page numbers in the Contents or 
anywhere else in the manual to the appropriate pages.
Make sure that reference made on one page to functions explained on 
other pages are linked to the page that explains it.
Make sure that all functions explained on other pages have the page 
number there to make look up in a paper manual easier ( I know this is 
already done a lot but just make sure it is as complete as practical)
When releasing updated manuals note what the last included software 
release it includes on the cover, saves having to look up the release dates.

Bob
KB1FRW



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[Elecraft] Help needed!

2009-10-08 Thread TA2AH
G'day,



This is Ruchan (TA2AH) from Istanbul-Turkey.



A strange behavior started on my K3 (Serial #1230). 

 

I build a K3-10W with antenna tuner nearly 1.5 years ago, and I used it until 
today without any problem.

 

Recently, I have ordered a KPA3 for K3/10 after a while a KXV3A option.

 

When I installed KPA3 option my K3 worked without any problem.

 

After a while, I also installed KXV3A option and a strange problem started.

 

K3 is working but the display characters become unreadable (strange characters 
with no meening) time to time by itself or when I press one of the front panel 
buttons.

 

Please check the attache picture. 

 

It becomes normal by itself, or when I touch some of the front panel buttons 
again.

 

Any idea!!



Any help would be appreciated.

 

73,

Ruchan Ozatay (TA2AH)

ta2a...@superonline.com
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Re: [Elecraft] RX gain calibration enhancement

2009-10-08 Thread brett
It wouldn't have to require you to have a 1uV signal generator all it would 
have to do is allow you to skip that step if you didn't have that piece of 
equipment. 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Guy Olinger K2AV 
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:35:37 
To: Brett Howard
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RX gain calibration enhancement

The RF Gain procedure does not presume the XG1/2, but is written for any
50uv source available. If the procedure combines those two signal levels,
then equipment capable of supplying both 50uv and 1uv is necessary to run
the RF Gain calibration at all.

It works very well btw. S meter is now linear from S0 to 60 over after RF
gain calibration.  It had been cramped above S9 where only 30 dB increase
would take it to 60 over on the meter. Now 6 db per click below S9 and 5 db
per click above.  Nice.

I have both an XG1 and an XG2.  Going to put a 160m crystal in the XG1. Need
portable, stable signal source on 160.

73, Guy.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Brett Howard wrote:

> So if someone has the 50uV elecraft generator (and can do 1uV as well)
> why can't the gain calibration feature also calibrate the S-Meter as
> well?  Just add the insertion of a 1uV signal after the 50uV signal
> allows the rig to linearize things and set the S9 point and then you can
> set your offset and slopes and what not...
>
> ~BTH
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Audio Mods

2009-10-08 Thread Paul Christensen
> spectrogram16 while listening to AM broadcast band stations. Because of 
> the
> timing of my dsp board swap with the loading of the latest beta firmware, 
> I
> was never really certain what led to the improvement. Is it the hardware 
> or
> the firmtware, or are both required for older K3's?
> Bob W9RFS

Bob,

The improvements you are hearing are related to both the hardware update on 
the Main DSP Board as well as the latest F/W revision.

Paul, W9AC

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Re: [Elecraft] Manual suggestions

2009-10-08 Thread Thom LaCosta
At 10:48 AM 10/08/09, Bob Allen wrote:
>Hi again,
>The owner's manual must be a difficult thing to deal with the radio
>changing weekly.
>But as a user I find that the manual could be improved so I thought I'd
>throw out a few suggestions.

One that I've made in the past was to issue change notifications...ala the
gubmintthe change sheet would tell you what page to remove and what
pages to add.

In that way, one can maintain the printed manual without having to reprint
it again.

Less paper used, less trash. less work.

73,
Thom k3hrn



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Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

2009-10-08 Thread Radio Amateur N5GE
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:58:49 -0400, Steven Zabarnick
 wrote:

>This leads to the obvious follow-on suggest: Since the XG-2 signal  
>generator is used to calibrate the RF gain and the S-meter, why not  
>include the XG-2 generator as an internal feature of future versions  
>of the K3 (or K4)?
>
>Steve N9SZ
[snip]

Great idea!

Perhaps it could be done in firmware?

Tom, N5GE

n...@n5ge.com
K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6,
XV144, XV432, KRC2,
W1 and other small kits.

2 W2's on order
1 K144XV on order

http://www.n5ge.com
http://www.swotrc.net

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[Elecraft] F.S. K3 Mini Manual

2009-10-08 Thread DALE PARFITT
 For sale is a like new Nifty Manual for the K3:
http://www.niftyaccessories.com/Elecraft_RefGuide.htm
 
$15 shipped USPS CONUS.

73,
Dale W4OP
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Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

2009-10-08 Thread Richard Squire

Not very useful, if you ask me. This is not a feature for everyday use, is
it?
I have an XG-2, the RF gain and S-meter have been calibrated once and for
all.
AND I can help other hams calibrate their K3's or whatever transceivers... 
Who needs a car with an on-board diagnostic tester?

73
Richard - HB9ANM


Radio Amateur N5GE wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:58:49 -0400, Steven Zabarnick
>  wrote:
> 
>>This leads to the obvious follow-on suggest: Since the XG-2 signal  
>>generator is used to calibrate the RF gain and the S-meter, why not  
>>include the XG-2 generator as an internal feature of future versions  
>>of the K3 (or K4)?
>>
>>Steve N9SZ
> [snip]
> 
> Great idea!
> 
> Perhaps it could be done in firmware?
> 
> Tom, N5GE
> 
> n...@n5ge.com
> K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6,
> XV144, XV432, KRC2,
> W1 and other small kits.
> 
> 2 W2's on order
> 1 K144XV on order
> 
> http://www.n5ge.com
> http://www.swotrc.net
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Re: [Elecraft] Yamahs CM500 Headset

2009-10-08 Thread .k8dd.
You might try Heil's mike cartridge that they use in the ProSet ic - it 
is an electret that was made for Icom, but I got very good audio reports 
with the ic on the K2 and the K3 both from DX stations and domestic alike.
The CM500 is 'different'.  I've tried several TX EQ settings - I guess 
it has a lot to do with individual voices.  And it seemed to me that the 
screen on the microphone got rid of most of the breath sounds.

73HankK8DD

Ignacy wrote:
> I compared Yamaha CM500 to my other headset: Sony 32 Ohms headphones with
> Heil HC5 attached via piece of wire and wrapped with electrical tape.
> 
> The Yamaha headphones are better partly because they are 130 Ohm and
> therefore copy more low tones. But they completely cover the ears and I
> don't hear when my wife is calling (for dinner etc).
> 
> The electret microphone has lots of gain but catches lots of breath, unlike
> HC5. It requires equalization to be as effective as HC5 but in the end does
> not sound as smooth. It gains much more high frequency response when them
> other side of the microphone is blocked. Also there is some echo. 
> 
> In QSOs, locals prefer YAMAHA because of the low frequency response, DX
> prefer HC5 because of clarity, and for some there is no difference. 
> 
> It seems that in pileups HC5 is more efficient while being comfortable in
> rag chewing. Because K3 is competitive radio and that;s why I bought it, I
> am inclined to break the electret enclosure in CM500 and somehow attach HC5
> there. 
> 
> Any comments? Is HC5 that good? Can one find as good electret element? 
> 
> Ignacy
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Lu Romero - W4LT wrote:
>> All:
>>
>> Im a "punch" guy and not a "hi-fi" guy.  I do hi fi at work.
>>  I own a couple of Heils (a BM-10 and a ProSet) with the "DX
>> Element" which are good for contesting but often sound a
>> little too "in your face" for non contest work.
>>
>> I considered the Yamaha, but I find that it is sometimes
>> difficult to "interchange" phantom powered electrets when
>> traveling to other stations for contests. 
>>
>> I have found a very good alternative to both in the Koss
>> SB-40.  It is stereo, has a 1/8 stereo plug and has all the
>> features of the CM500, but uses a dynamic mic.  The cord is
>> incredibly long, but a RipTie fixes that.  It is also a full
>> ear cup model with huge transducers, and fits my head more
>> comfortably that the ProSets do especially because I wear
>> glasses.  The ProSet's earcups are much harder than the
>> SB-40's and leave a gap.  The Koss seals around the glasses
>> perfectly, keeping sound out, without pushing the glasses
>> into my temples.
>>
>> Worst thing is that it doesnt have a single outlet for the
>> cords on one earcup, but I consider this minor.
>>
>> Admittedly, the SB-40 headphone is really "bassy".  Guess
>> Gamers like those big explosions to rock their heads around
>> (listen to Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon with these,
>> you will see!).  This bass effect is easily fixed with some
>> RX EQ,  but then K3 doesnt have much bass response, except
>> when using V3.25 firmware.  Wonder when that promised bass
>> will make its return!  Soon I hope! :)
>>
>> The mic is very flat in response but shifts towards the
>> bassy side with a marked proximity effect, but TX
>> equalization takes care of that.  After processing, I can
>> acheive a similar sound to the DX Element but with less
>> harshness and a very nice bass undertone around 150-200Hz
>> when close-talked which, in my opinion, may add to
>> intelegibility on the low bands.  The K3's EQ capabilities
>> can make this mic sound any way you want to sound, from DX
>> punch to ESSB.
>>
>> I still like the "penetration" of a well EQ'd DX Element in
>> a contest, but these are smooth and broad and seem to
>> complement my particular K3.  They are EXTREMELY
>> comfortable, more so than the ProSet, and very ruggedly
>> constructed, too!  
>>
>> They cost around $30 at Full Compass.
>>
>> I will probably use them for CQ-WW-SSB.
>>
>> -lu-W4LT-
>>
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:11:17 -0700
>> From: "Jim Brown" 
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Yamahs CM500 Headset
>> To: "Elecraft List" 
>> Message-ID: <20090915161121.80bcd57...@gw1.nlenet.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 18:42:31 -0700, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
>>
>>> I just tried out my new Yamaha CM500 as well.
>>
>> Several of the guys in our contest club have bought these
>> headsets 
>> and fired them up with their K3s. One of them, W6XU, brought
>> one to 
>> our meeting last night, and I tried it on. It is quite
>> comfortable, 
>> and well built. The headphones are of the "big closed" type
>> that 
>>  provide some isolation from noise in the shack. They are
>> NOT active, 
>> noise-cancelling type. 
>> The mic is a cardioid electret.   
>>
>> Another of the guys, K6TD, had me listen to his on the air.
>> It 
>> sounded very good with no tweaking of the K3, and with
>> tweaking, 
>> p

[Elecraft] K3 and XG-2

2009-10-08 Thread rfenabled
Snip
why not  
include the XG-2 generator as an internal feature of future versions  
of the K3 (or K4)?

Steve N9SZ
End Snip

Now that's a great idea...!!!

Hot my vote

Gary
VK4WT/P
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Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

2009-10-08 Thread Radio Amateur N5GE
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:48:30 -0700 (PDT), Richard Squire
 wrote:

>
>Not very useful, if you ask me. This is not a feature for everyday use, is
>it?
>I have an XG-2, the RF gain and S-meter have been calibrated once and for
>all.
>AND I can help other hams calibrate their K3's or whatever transceivers... 
>Who needs a car with an on-board diagnostic tester?
>
>73
>Richard - HB9ANM
[snip]

Most cars built since the 1990's have on board sensors that record
engine failure data, and collision impact data.  These sensors report
the data to the diagnostics console when it is attached.  Collision
impact sensors trigger your air bags...

Don't forget there is a computer in your automobile and it is
processing data all the time the ignition is on.

Comparing a K3 to a car is not really accurate, except that each has
an onboard computer. ;o)

73,

Tom, N5GE

n...@n5ge.com
K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6,
XV144, XV432, KRC2,
W1 and other small kits.

2 W2's on order
1 K144XV on order

http://www.n5ge.com
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[Elecraft] K3 and XG-2

2009-10-08 Thread rfenabled
Snip

Not very useful, if you ask me. This is not a feature for everyday use, is
it?
I have an XG-2, the RF gain and S-meter have been calibrated once and for
all.
AND I can help other hams calibrate their K3's or whatever transceivers... 
Who needs a car with an on-board diagnostic tester?

73
Richard - HB9ANM
End Snip

Richard

We all have different set ups, in my case, I run one radio only (k3) in my 
Motorhome and as such I have limitations on what I can carry and so an on board 
optional, or firmware based XG-2 would be a great tool to have.

Again, I realise this would not be for all K3 owners.

Gary
VK4WT/P

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and XG-2

2009-10-08 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Adding the XG2 signal generator the K3 is not only f/w. It would require 
a major h/w change. We will not be doing that in the near future due to 
both cost and engineering availability.

In general, the S-Meter calibration feature is an excellent enhancement, 
but not totally necessary for normal use of the K3. We shipped thousands 
of K3s before adding this.  In general most ham rigs are all over the 
map in their S-Meter accuracy. We added this cal feature so those so 
interested could further enhance the K3s accuracy to be one of the best 
out there. :-)

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Manual suggestions

2009-10-08 Thread Lu Romero
All:

I guess I might be one of the few that takes the time to
RTFM... If more of us did, maybe we would have less things
to ask about here on the reflector.

Let me add my *strong* endorsement to these thoughts!  

I dont even use the included spiral bound manual.  I am
lucky to have access to PDF Pro and a DTP qualified printer
that can print dual sided sheets, so I have gotten into the
habit of capturing the included "errata" sheets into PDF,
editing them, and inserting them into the "oficial" manual
which can then be printed as needed.

What Elecraft might consider is moving away from the spiral
bound manual convention and moving into a "loose leaf
notebook" convention.  Ampex (remember them?) was supreme at
organizing this task back in the 80's.  

This would make things much easier to manage.  Just "replace
pages 34 through 38" in your existing manual with the
pre-formatted PDF files available on the website.  But
please remember to add "this page intentionally left blank",
OK?  And before you complain, even the INTERNET has one of
these.  (http://www.this-page-intentionally-left-blank.org/)

Seriously, the loose leaf three ring binder with section
tabs would be a MUCH better idea for K3, since it is in such
rapid development.  Nice logo printed "Elecraft" three ring
binders are not that expensive in relation to what we pay
for the radios and would be less time consuming to create in
the long run.  They would probably be easier to produce than
those spiral bound ones.

Yes, the spiral bound ones are handy, lie flat on the
operating position, and take up less space, but if you
REALLY want one, just go down to Office Depot and have one
custom made to your specifications for under $10.

-lu-W4LT-



Message: 5
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:24:14 -0400
From: Thom LaCosta 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Manual suggestions
To: Bob Allen ,elecraft@mailman.qth.net,   
Elecraft
support 
Message-ID: <20091008152351.1c0b33738...@mailman.qth.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

At 10:48 AM 10/08/09, Bob Allen wrote:
>Hi again,
>The owner's manual must be a difficult thing to deal with
the radio
>changing weekly.
>But as a user I find that the manual could be improved so I
thought I'd
>throw out a few suggestions.

One that I've made in the past was to issue change
notifications...ala the
gubmintthe change sheet would tell you what page to
remove and what
pages to add.

In that way, one can maintain the printed manual without
having to reprint
it again.

Less paper used, less trash. less work.

73,
Thom k3hrn





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[Elecraft] K3 Rev C DSP with Low Freq Enhancement ship date info; New swap out option on parts order page.

2009-10-08 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We started shipping the current DSP boards, Rev C, approximately March 
6th, 2009. 
Any K3 DSP board Rev C or later will have the extended low end audio 
frequency response h/w enhancement.

This corresponds approximately to K3 serial number 2800, plus or minus 
10-20. Since assembled -Fs and kit K3s flow through different 
manufacturing paths, there is a slight variance in s/n for the phase-in. 
If in doubt, check the DSP board Rev as noted above.

These changes basically added additional h/w low end frequency response 
below 300 Hz. You need to also have the latest K3 f/w to take advantage 
of this. Of course, you can also tailor (and limit) your RX and TX 
response via the K3's IF Shift and B/W controls and by using the TX and 
RX Equalizer entries.

A picture of the Rev label location on the DSP board and additional info 
is at:
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/dsp_rev_c_information.htm

(The 'C', or later, revision letter at the bottom of the label is what 
is important.)

We have added to our parts and mod kits page an option, K3DSPUPGD to 
swap out your current DSP for one upgraded to the latest Rev C changes. 
The cost will be $69.00 plus shipping. Order placed via this page will 
start shipping approximately in 4 weeks, around Nov 9.

See:
http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts


73,  Eric   WA6HHQ
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[Elecraft] Manual suggestion

2009-10-08 Thread Ken Kopp
Staples ... and I assume  most other similar stores ... sell 
three-ring binders that have a clear front pocket to house a 
single sheet.  I printed the current manual from the Elecraft
website, along with an extra title page to insert into the pocket.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
 elecraftcov...@rfwave.net
 http://tinyurl.com/7lm3m5
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Re: [Elecraft] New 3.41 IMPROVED RX LOW-FREQUENCY RESPONSE in AM/SSB/CW MODES

2009-10-08 Thread Alexander Ponomarenko
My K3 feel the difference between 3.30 and 3.41.
Open these plots (LSB/USB-mode) in two different windows:
FW3.41 - http://forum.cqham.ru/download.php?id=49432
FW3.30 - http://forum.cqham.ru/download.php?id=49431
RX-EQ is equal for both plots. Plots for Phone-out.

P.S. But my K3 has been modified: 
http://ur5lam.jimdo.com/elecraft-k3-mod-s-page/

73!
Alex UR5LAM

Wayne Burdick:
> Lyle and I will discuss your findings, retest the passband and get  
> back to you. However, I'm virtually certain that 3.41 is vastly  
> different from 3.30, as others have noted, so this is a mystery.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> On Oct 7, 2009, at 4:14 PM, mark roz wrote:
> 
>> To me there is no difference between 3.30 and 3.41. Same low freq.  
>> response.
>> However, for my needs it is OK. Yes, I'm adjusting shift and width
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and XG-2

2009-10-08 Thread Ted Roycraft
I was beginning to think that I was the only one who never looks at the 
S-Meter :-)

73, Ted, W2ZK

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> Adding the XG2 signal generator the K3 is not only f/w. It would require 
> a major h/w change. We will not be doing that in the near future due to 
> both cost and engineering availability.
>
> In general, the S-Meter calibration feature is an excellent enhancement, 
> but not totally necessary for normal use of the K3. We shipped thousands 
> of K3s before adding this.  In general most ham rigs are all over the 
> map in their S-Meter accuracy. We added this cal feature so those so 
> interested could further enhance the K3s accuracy to be one of the best 
> out there. :-)
>
> 73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Manual suggestions

2009-10-08 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I use the manuals in PDF far more than the printed versions, too, but never
missed links to do efficient searches. I frequently don't even look at the
table of contents. 

Instead I just type in key words in the Acrobat search window and let the
reader find them for me. That way I can hop about in the manual with no fuss
and the search argument is always customized for what I'm doing. I find it
much more complete  and faster than referring to a table of contents or an
index.  

On the rare occasions I do check the table of contents or an index, I just
go to the page using the Acrobat page entry window. That gets me within a
page or two, depending upon the number of pages in the front matter.

Ron AC7AC

  


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and XG-2

2009-10-08 Thread Richard Squire

OK, Gary - BTW the K3 is also my only transceiver right now
and the XG-2 is hardly larger than a credit card, weighing less than 2 oz.
If it doesn't fit into your mobilehome, you can still carry it in your
pocket  :-)

73
Richard - HB9ANM


rfenabled wrote:
> 
> Snip
> 
> Not very useful, if you ask me. This is not a feature for everyday use, is
> it?
> I have an XG-2, the RF gain and S-meter have been calibrated once and for
> all.
> AND I can help other hams calibrate their K3's or whatever transceivers... 
> Who needs a car with an on-board diagnostic tester?
> 
> 73
> Richard - HB9ANM
> End Snip
> 
> Richard
> 
> We all have different set ups, in my case, I run one radio only (k3) in my
> Motorhome and as such I have limitations on what I can carry and so an on
> board optional, or firmware based XG-2 would be a great tool to have.
> 
> Again, I realise this would not be for all K3 owners.
> 
> Gary
> VK4WT/P
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rev C DSP with Low Freq Enhancement ship date info; New swap out option on parts order page. CORRECTION

2009-10-08 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
CORRECTION - I have some egg on my face. I misread our internal release 
date notes for the Rev C DSP board. Here is the correct Date and S/N 
Information:

We started shipping the latest DSP boards, Rev C, approximately May 1st, 
2009. 
Any K3 DSP board Rev C or later will have the extended low end audio 
response enhancement.

This corresponds approximately to K3 serial number 3018, plus or minus 
10-20. 

The complete upgrade info page has also been updated with this information:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/dsp_rev_c_information.htm

I apologize for any confusion this created.

73, Eric

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rev C DSP with Low Freq Enhancement ship date info; New swap out option on parts order page. CORRECTION

2009-10-08 Thread Geoffrey Downs
Thanks for the clarification, Eric. For those with a sub rx, if a pre-Rev C 
main dsp board is swapped does the Aux DSP board need to be changed too?

73

Geoff
G3UCK

- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" 


> We started shipping the latest DSP boards, Rev C, approximately May 1st,
> 2009.
> Any K3 DSP board Rev C or later will have the extended low end audio
> response enhancement.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rev C DSP with Low Freq Enhancement ship date info; New swap out option on parts order page. CORRECTION

2009-10-08 Thread Bryan, ZL1NI
I am confused about the Rev C DSP board.
Is there more to it than the extended low end audio frequency response
h/w enhancement?
If so can someone point me to where I can see more information please?

Bryan, Zl1NI


Eric wrote:
..
> Any K3 DSP board Rev C or later will have the extended low end audio

> frequency response h/w enhancement.
>
..

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rev C DSP with Low Freq Enhancement ship date info; New swap out option on parts order page. CORRECTION

2009-10-08 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
No. All the analog audio paths impacted are only on the main DSP board. 
The AUXDSP is all digital.

73, Eric


Geoffrey Downs wrote:
> Thanks for the clarification, Eric. For those with a sub rx, if a 
> pre-Rev C main dsp board is swapped does the Aux DSP board need to be 
> changed too?
>
> 73
>
> Geoff
> G3UCK
>
> - Original Message - From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" 
> 
>
>
>> We started shipping the latest DSP boards, Rev C, approximately May 1st,
>> 2009.
>> Any K3 DSP board Rev C or later will have the extended low end audio
>> response enhancement.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rev C DSP with Low Freq Enhancement ship date info; New swap out option on parts order page. CORRECTION

2009-10-08 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
That's primarily it. We increased coupling caps and a few other values 
in the audio chain to increase low freq audio response below 300 Hz. 
when combines with the latest f/w beta release it results in more low 
end below 300 Hz.  Its not something we originally targeted as a 
communications radio, but as our customer base has widened its become a 
desire enhancement for those who like both hi-fi SWLing, ESSB and some 
other areas.

73, Eric  WA6HHQ


Bryan, ZL1NI wrote:
> I am confused about the Rev C DSP board.
> Is there more to it than the extended low end audio frequency response
> h/w enhancement?
> If so can someone point me to where I can see more information please?
>
> Bryan, Zl1NI
>
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[Elecraft] [K3] Utility Version 1.2.9.30

2009-10-08 Thread Geoffrey Downs
Having installed the above latest Utility version, when I start it and click 
on the Firmware tab a message at the bottom of the window says "A newer K3 
Utility version is avaiable". Is it?

73 to all

Geoff
G3UCK 

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[Elecraft] KAF2 filter for sale

2009-10-08 Thread mark roz
I have like new KAF2 audio filter for sale. $55


  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rev C DSP with Low Freq Enhancement

2009-10-08 Thread Bruce Beford
Eric,

Would it be possible to release an app note listing the component value
changes you mention:

"We increased coupling caps and a few other values in the audio chain to
increase low freq audio response below 300 Hz."

This way, those of us who feel up to the task can modify our own early DSP
boards. I assume the changes are similar to, or an extension of what has
been published privately by Paul and Ed. It would be very nice to see the
"official" changes.

Thanks,
Bruce N1RX
K3 #559


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Re: [Elecraft] Troll

2009-10-08 Thread JIM DAVIS
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:01:54 -0400
  Dan Atchison  wrote:
> 
> Personally, Jim, I agree with Steve.? If you've had no problems, then why 
> bring it up?? Let 
>readers be their own judge.
> 
> 
> 
> Dan -- N3ND

***
Dear Dan,

All that I'll say about what I had put forth on the "REFLECTOR" is honest and 
"heart-felt"!
Can YOU or anybody else really TRUST anyone (or manufacturer) to be kept 
HONEST???

If you TRUST everybody as I suspect YOU DO, then are'nt you and others a part 
of the problem as 
well?

Regards,

Jim/nn6ee

PS,

If WE AMERICANS can't give our own opinions here or anywhere else then "WHAT 
GOOD IS FREEDOM OF 
SPEECH?" Why denigrate ME as a individual because I DON'T THINK LIKE YOU DO???
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[Elecraft] "Hitler's "TAKE" on Amateur Radio!

2009-10-08 Thread JIM DAVIS
Courtesy of "YOU TUBE"!!!

Enjoy!

Jim/nn6ee

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[Elecraft] "Spasmodic" CW with 3.41

2009-10-08 Thread Dick Roth, KA1OZ
Greetings--

I discovered tonight, having downloaded and installed 3.41 a few nights 
ago, that when connected to HRD, my K3, #859, has problems with the 
keying circuit, regardless if I'm using my paddle or my straight key.

While in TX Test mode, when connected to HRD, dits and dahs become 
"spasmodic" with dahs occasionally elongated or cut off short.  The dits 
will occasionally "miss"...not be there when expected.

When disconnected from HRD, normal operation resumes.  Now, I only tried 
this on TX Test and not into the air or dummy load.

When I reverted back to 3.30, the problem vanished...ceased to exist, 
connected to HRD or not.

Has anyone else discovered this?


-- 
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA

Radio:  Elecraft K3/100(Kit) SN 859
Antenna:  Titan-DX
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Re: [Elecraft] "Spasmodic" CW with 3.41

2009-10-08 Thread Len, K3LJ

Dick, I tried it with my K3 #892 with no problems during TX Test. I am
running  the latest Beta version of HRD. I have no problems using HRD to do
CW or using the built in keyer in the K3. The mistakes that I make using the
keyer are mine but nothing out of the ordinary other than that.

Len, K3LJ



Dick Roth KA1OZ wrote:
> 
> Greetings--
> 
> I discovered tonight, having downloaded and installed 3.41 a few nights 
> ago, that when connected to HRD, my K3, #859, has problems with the 
> keying circuit, regardless if I'm using my paddle or my straight key.
> 
> While in TX Test mode, when connected to HRD, dits and dahs become 
> "spasmodic" with dahs occasionally elongated or cut off short.  The dits 
> will occasionally "miss"...not be there when expected.
> 
> When disconnected from HRD, normal operation resumes.  Now, I only tried 
> this on TX Test and not into the air or dummy load.
> 
> When I reverted back to 3.30, the problem vanished...ceased to exist, 
> connected to HRD or not.
> 
> Has anyone else discovered this?
> 
> 
> -- 
> 73,
> Dick ka1oz
> Middleborough, MA
> 
> Radio:  Elecraft K3/100(Kit) SN 859
> Antenna:  Titan-DX
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Re: [Elecraft] "Spasmodic" CW with 3.41

2009-10-08 Thread Dick Roth, KA1OZ
Len, K3LJ wrote:
> Dick, I tried it with my K3 #892 with no problems during TX Test. I am
> running  the latest Beta version of HRD. I have no problems using HRD to do
> CW or using the built in keyer in the K3. The mistakes that I make using the
> keyer are mine but nothing out of the ordinary other than that.
> 
> Len, K3LJ
> 
> 
> 
> Dick Roth KA1OZ wrote:
>> Greetings--
>>
>> I discovered tonight, having downloaded and installed 3.41 a few nights 
>> ago, that when connected to HRD, my K3, #859, has problems with the 
>> keying circuit, regardless if I'm using my paddle or my straight key.
>>
>> While in TX Test mode, when connected to HRD, dits and dahs become 
>> "spasmodic" with dahs occasionally elongated or cut off short.  The dits 
>> will occasionally "miss"...not be there when expected.
>>
>> When disconnected from HRD, normal operation resumes.  Now, I only tried 
>> this on TX Test and not into the air or dummy load.
>>
>> When I reverted back to 3.30, the problem vanished...ceased to exist, 
>> connected to HRD or not.
>>
>> Has anyone else discovered this?
>>
>>>
>[snip] >
> 

I'm running HRD 4.1 Build 2312.  I should add that the radio is as it 
was when I put it together.  I have not made any mods.  I don't know if 
this is pertinent or not.

-- 
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA

Radio:  Elecraft K3/100(Kit) SN 859
Antenna:  Titan-DX
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Re: [Elecraft] "Spasmodic" CW with 3.41

2009-10-08 Thread Wayne Burdick
I'm not observing any keying problems, either. How are you keying the  
rig? How is HRD set up? I'm not an expert with HRD; is there a way to  
reset it to defaults to see if it could be a configuration issue?

Tnx
Wayne,
N6KR


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On Oct 8, 2009, at 7:00 PM, "Dick Roth, KA1OZ"   
wrote:

> Len, K3LJ wrote:
>> Dick, I tried it with my K3 #892 with no problems during TX Test. I  
>> am
>> running  the latest Beta version of HRD. I have no problems using  
>> HRD to do
>> CW or using the built in keyer in the K3. The mistakes that I make  
>> using the
>> keyer are mine but nothing out of the ordinary other than that.
>>
>> Len, K3LJ
>>
>>
>>
>> Dick Roth KA1OZ wrote:
>>> Greetings--
>>>
>>> I discovered tonight, having downloaded and installed 3.41 a few  
>>> nights
>>> ago, that when connected to HRD, my K3, #859, has problems with the
>>> keying circuit, regardless if I'm using my paddle or my straight  
>>> key.
>>>
>>> While in TX Test mode, when connected to HRD, dits and dahs become
>>> "spasmodic" with dahs occasionally elongated or cut off short.   
>>> The dits
>>> will occasionally "miss"...not be there when expected.
>>>
>>> When disconnected from HRD, normal operation resumes.  Now, I only  
>>> tried
>>> this on TX Test and not into the air or dummy load.
>>>
>>> When I reverted back to 3.30, the problem vanished...ceased to  
>>> exist,
>>> connected to HRD or not.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else discovered this?
>>>

>> [snip] >
>>
>
> I'm running HRD 4.1 Build 2312.  I should add that the radio is as it
> was when I put it together.  I have not made any mods.  I don't know  
> if
> this is pertinent or not.
>
> -- 
> 73,
> Dick ka1oz
> Middleborough, MA
>
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> Antenna:  Titan-DX
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[Elecraft] K1 or K2 or K3 Request

2009-10-08 Thread Jay
It seems that somewhere over the last few weeks, the
courtesy of including K1 or K2 or K3 in the subject line
seems to have fallen by the way side.

My DELETE key works very well but my e-mail filters work
even better.

This is just a request.

Thank you and 73!

Jay
AJ4AY
Mobile, AL 

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[Elecraft] Trolling

2009-10-08 Thread Dan Atchison
Gee, Jim, I wrote you a private email to your personal email account 
and you publish it on this reflector?  Who gave you permission to do 
that?  You really do have issues.



I apologize to the entire reflector for Jim's antics.



73,

Dan -- N3ND





On 10/7/09, JIM DAVIS  wrote:



On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:01:54 -0400

Dan Atchison  wrote:

>

 > Personally, Jim, I agree with Steve.? If you've had no problems, 
then why bring it up?? Let

>readers be their own judge.

>

>

>

> Dan -- N3ND



***

Dear Dan,



 All that I'll say about what I had put forth on the "REFLECTOR" is 
honest and "heart-felt"!

 Can YOU or anybody else really TRUST anyone (or manufacturer) to be 
kept HONEST???



 If you TRUST everybody as I suspect YOU DO, then are'nt you and 
others a part of the problem as

well?



Regards,



Jim/nn6ee



PS,



 If WE AMERICANS can't give our own opinions here or anywhere else 
then "WHAT GOOD IS FREEDOM OF

 SPEECH?" Why denigrate ME as a individual because I DON'T THINK 
LIKE YOU DO???
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[Elecraft] K3: strange problem with HRD and latest FW

2009-10-08 Thread tom kenville
I flashed the new FW last nite.
uC 3.41
dl 2.37
fl 1.04

Problem has surfaced when running (it seems) with HRD.  HRD Ver 5.0 build
2290 Beta

In particular CW.  Seems that the paddle and straight key are mis-behaving.
Skips early part of break in.  perhaps the first 20-30 msec ?

Example:  sending W6TJK is get W6D..

Happens irrespective of TX-test mode, or TX with power to dipole.

When I disconnect HRD (ie. press the red X) the keyer now behaves.

Very disconcerting.

I have not changed HRD in some many months.


Seems to be OK with N1MM.
Mebbe time to go thetaway for logging hmm.

-- 
thanks and 73's
Tom Kenville  --  W6TJK
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: strange problem with HRD and latest FW

2009-10-08 Thread DC1RS

No problems here, using also 3.41 and HRD Version 5.0 build 2306.

73 de Roland, DC1RS



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