Re: [Elecraft] OT: heat sinking resistors

2010-05-22 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Don Wilhelm wrote:

Phil  Debbie Salas wrote:
 I just received a few Ohmite thick film power resistors for an 
attenuator I'm making,
 rated 20 watts. They are 15mm x 10mm x 3mm. Obviously they have to be 
heat-sunk
 (heat-sinked?) if they are going to dissipate that much power.

 FYI - Both Ohmite and Caddock make versions of these resistors that 
have screw holes for mounting.  The lower power parts (15-20 watts) 
are pretty good thru 2-meters.  However, the higher power versions 
(especially the 100-watt versions) can start to look bad at 50 MHz due 
to the large package capacitance-to-ground.

 Phil - AD5X


Phil,

Is this recent data? Has something changed?  I have had plots of the
Caddock 50 ohm 100 watt resistors taken to 250 MHz and the return loss
indicated that they made very good attenuators and dummy loads at that
frequency - assuming they were mounted with zero length leads directly
to a BNC or SO-239 connector.  My data is 2 years old.

BTW - the facts I have quoted are good only for the 50 ohm Caddock
resistors - I have found that other values were as stated
non-inductive, but they certainly were capacitive.  A capacitive dummy
load is just as bad as an inductive load.

73,
Don W3FPR

The two of you may be applying different standards for VSWR performance.

If you wish the dummy load to be an accurate 50-ohm reference for 
measurement purposes, then 1-2pF of shunt capacitance can be quite 
serious. At 145MHz, 2pF of shunt capacitance would increase the VSWR to 
about 1.1; as a 50-ohm reference, that would be quite poor.

On the other hand, if you only need somewhere to dump unwanted RF power, 
that same VSWR of 1.1 will be just fine.

There are some examples on my 'In Practice' reference page:
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek/in-prac#0908

Whatever your requirements, you can estimate the minimum VSWR quite 
accurately by assuming 1-1.5pF of shunt capacitance for each TO-220 
package. In practical layouts, the VSWR at VHF will almost always be 
dominated by the series inductance of your own connecting wires.



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Re: [Elecraft] Connections to K3 ant 1 2

2010-05-22 Thread N3XX
Thanks to everyone for your responses and suggestions.
I have decided to order a TwoPak rf switch from Array solutions.
There are less costly ways to go, but I like the specs I see on their 
website.
High pwr handling, good well above the highest frequency I intend to use, 
and 80 dB isolation between ports.
I will still measure power on the unused port when transmitting through the 
other, to see how much I would be putting back into the K3.  Only after this 
will I connect everything up to both antenna connectors on the K3 if all 
looks good.
Will post here again when I have tested and have all connected  working.

73,
Tim - N3XX

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From: N3XX n...@charter.net
To: Elecraft Reflector Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:18 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Connections to K3 ant 1  2


 Hi to all on the list,

 I just finished building my K3 kit a few weeks ago (4175).  All went well,
 and the new xcvr is up  running with no problems.
 The antenna setup at my qth is a single cable from the entrance panel at 
 the
 house going out to tower #1, through a remote antenna switch to select 
 from
 antennas on that tower or another connection going to tower #2.  At tower 
 #2
 is another remote antenna switch to select various antennas on that tower.
 In the shack I have an amp for 160-10 meters, and an amp for 6 meters.
 I would like to connect my single cable coming in from the entrance panel 
 to
 a 2 way coax switch,  with one of the ports going to my 160-10 meter amp,
 and the other going to my 6 meter amp.  Then the 160-10 amp would be
 connected to the K3 antenna connector 1, and the 6 meter amp would be
 connected to K3 antenna connector 2.
 Both amps will operate at the legal limit easily, and my concern is that
 when xmitting through one of the antenna connectors  amp, I will put too
 much rf back through the coax switch to the unused K3 antenna connector, 
 and
 possibly damage the K3.
 I have been changing cabling manually but would really like to be able to
 just operate a switch to make the change.
 So, if anyone on the list doing something similar to what I have in mind, 
 I
 sure would like to hear about your setup, what kind of switch you are 
 using,
 how much port to port isolation is necessary to be safe, etc.

 Tnx  73,
 Tim - N3XX

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[Elecraft] K1 out on the Appalachian Trail

2010-05-22 Thread Ron Polityka
Hello,

 Today 22 May 2010 I will be going out onto the Appalachian 
Trail to give my Elecraft K1 radio some exercise.

I will be one of about a dozen Polar Bears out on the trails 
having some fun with our portable radios.

The PB Ops that will be out on the trails can be found at:
http://www.n3epa.org/Pages/2010%20PBSPE.htm

The list of official Polar Bears and their assigned numbers 
can be found at:
http://www.n3epa.org/Pages/PolarBear.htm

I will be adding QSO's onto my 1,177 QSO's from the AT. 
Still looking for MT and HI for a WAS from the AT. This week 
has been a long hard work week and I hope to enjoy some long 
good QSO's with my fellow QRP'ers on CW HF Bands.

72,
Ron Polityka
WB3AAL
Polar Bear #1
K1 - SN 01011

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[Elecraft] CW TX in SSB mode

2010-05-22 Thread Gregg W6IZT
I just received my K3 back from the factory for repairs. I am unable to get
the K3 to TX CW while in SSB mode. Is there a setting to enable this that I
am not aware of?

Gregg
W6IZT

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Re: [Elecraft] CW TX in SSB mode

2010-05-22 Thread Mike Cox
CONFIG -- CW WGHT
Tap 1 to toggle CW in SSB mode on/off

On 5/22/2010 9:05 AM, Gregg W6IZT wrote:
 I just received my K3 back from the factory for repairs. I am unable to get
 the K3 to TX CW while in SSB mode. Is there a setting to enable this that I
 am not aware of?

 Gregg
 W6IZT

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Re: [Elecraft] FT5000 review in Radcom

2010-05-22 Thread Hector Padron
Third in place ??? I will not believe it until I see the performance reports 
from Sherwood labs.
 
AD4C

For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3

--- On Fri, 5/21/10, Stephen Prior s...@sjprior.fsnet.co.uk wrote:


From: Stephen Prior s...@sjprior.fsnet.co.uk
Subject: [Elecraft] FT5000 review in Radcom
To: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 9:49 PM


It seems as if Peter Hart, having pushed the K3 into second place after the
Perseus SDR (in his Radcom review a month ago) for close-in strong signal
performance (I was very surprised not to see that mentioned in this forum),
has now pushed it one further place down, following his review of the new
FT5000 in this month's Radcom.  In his league table, the K3 is now in 3rd
place.

Peter is very complimentary about the FT5000's close-in (best he's ever
measured) receive performance, but closer reading of the article reveals
criticism in other areas of the new radio's performance, for example the
frequency disparity between its dual receivers, and the resulting effect on
diversity reception.  The review is not entirely positive.

One has to be real about this.  The likely price of the FT5000 will, I
suspect, be several times that of the K3. It won't run off 12V, and it
certainly would not fit on my operating desk! I also would not be prepared
to spend that kind of money. I would also wager that 99.9% of users would
notice no real world difference in receive performance between it and the
K3, or indeed one or two other other top end radios.  It is, however, very
pretty...!

Horses for courses

73 Stephen G4SJP




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Re: [Elecraft] CW TX in SSB mode

2010-05-22 Thread WILLIS COOKE
The short answer to that is YES, which seems like a flip answer, but the truth 
is that I can't remember how to do it either.  I turned mine on a while back 
and have not used the command since.  Maybe someone that remembers will remind 
us.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: Gregg W6IZT w6...@bellsouth.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 8:05:01 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] CW TX in SSB mode

I just received my K3 back from the factory for repairs. I am unable to get
the K3 to TX CW while in SSB mode. Is there a setting to enable this that I
am not aware of?

Gregg
W6IZT

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Re: [Elecraft] FT5000 review in Radcom

2010-05-22 Thread Bob Cunnings
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Third in place ??? I will not believe it until I see the performance reports 
 from Sherwood labs.

 AD4C


Why not? I wouldn't be surprised to see incremental improvement in
this area, now that it is finally receiving the attention it deserves.
Contesters should be happy that more manufacturers are heeding the
call to produce properly designed down conversion receivers in the
mold of Orion, and K3. Choice is good.

Bob NW8L
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[Elecraft] FT-5000 againts K3 ?

2010-05-22 Thread Hector Padron
Is that Radcom a trustable source,do they have all the professional 
measurement devices Sherwood labs have? If so,what is the difference in figures 
to make it better than our K3 ?

For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3


  
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Re: [Elecraft] CW TX in SSB mode

2010-05-22 Thread Matt Zilmer
CW in SSB is mentioned in the Owner's Manual.  See the CONFIG menu
table (around p54) under CW WGHT.

It's also in the OM index.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Sat, 22 May 2010 08:12:13 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

The short answer to that is YES, which seems like a flip answer, but the truth 
is that I can't remember how to do it either.  I turned mine on a while back 
and have not used the command since.  Maybe someone that remembers will remind 
us.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: Gregg W6IZT w6...@bellsouth.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 8:05:01 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] CW TX in SSB mode

I just received my K3 back from the factory for repairs. I am unable to get
the K3 to TX CW while in SSB mode. Is there a setting to enable this that I
am not aware of?

Gregg
W6IZT

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Re: [Elecraft] FT5000 review in Radcom

2010-05-22 Thread Hector Padron
Yes you are absolutely right,all companies should use the same circuit design 
or even improve it further more but its hard to believe that a company that has 
been sleeping  in the darkness in regards to receiver performance sudenly has 
woke up,like I said,I don't know who is that Radcom or what,I will trust only 
when I see the performance checked by Sherwood labs and if it is the truth well 
then we have to congratulate Yaesu.
 
AD4C
 


For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3

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From: Bob Cunnings bob.cunni...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT5000 review in Radcom
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 3:14 PM


On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Third in place ??? I will not believe it until I see the performance reports 
 from Sherwood labs.

 AD4C


Why not? I wouldn't be surprised to see incremental improvement in
this area, now that it is finally receiving the attention it deserves.
Contesters should be happy that more manufacturers are heeding the
call to produce properly designed down conversion receivers in the
mold of Orion, and K3. Choice is good.

Bob NW8L
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Re: [Elecraft] FT5000 review in Radcom

2010-05-22 Thread Stephen Prior
RadCom is the monthly journal of the RSGB, currently in its 86th year of
publication, although it has gone under other names in the past such as the
RSGB Bulletin.  Peter Hart is a well respected reviewer, unfortunately the
review does not list the equipment he has used; nevertheless his reviews are
well respected.


73 Stephen



On 22/05/2010 16:21, Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 Yes you are absolutely right,all companies should use the same circuit design
 or even improve it further more but its hard to believe that a company that
 has been sleeping  in the darkness in regards to receiver performance sudenly
 has woke up,like I said,I don't know who is that Radcom or what,I will trust
 only when I see the performance checked by Sherwood labs and if it is the
 truth well then we have to congratulate Yaesu.
  
 AD4C
  
 
 
 For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3
 
 --- On Sat, 5/22/10, Bob Cunnings bob.cunni...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 From: Bob Cunnings bob.cunni...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT5000 review in Radcom
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 3:14 PM
 
 
 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Third in place ??? I will not believe it until I see the performance reports
 from Sherwood labs.
 
 AD4C
 
 
 Why not? I wouldn't be surprised to see incremental improvement in
 this area, now that it is finally receiving the attention it deserves.
 Contesters should be happy that more manufacturers are heeding the
 call to produce properly designed down conversion receivers in the
 mold of Orion, and K3. Choice is good.
 
 Bob NW8L
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Re: [Elecraft] heat sinking resistors

2010-05-22 Thread elecraft
I used the ohmite tch35p series of thick film resistors in my power 
attenuator between k3 and transverters. They are 11x15mm but have a mounting 
flange/hole 

Dave 

ww2r 

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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 13:27:11 -0700
From: Vic Rosenthal v...@rakefet.com
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: heat sinking resistors
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: 4bf6ec9f.8050...@rakefet.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed 

I apologize in advance, but the smartest guys I know are here. 

I just received a few Ohmite thick film power resistors for an attenuator 
I'm making,
rated 20 watts. They are 15mm x 10mm x 3mm. Obviously they have to be 
heat-sunk
(heat-sinked?) if they are going to dissipate that much power. 

How do you do this? There's no hole in the middle...I can just clamp them 
between a couple
of pieces of aluminum, but is there a right way to accomplish this?
-- 
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Re: [Elecraft] FT5000 review in Radcom

2010-05-22 Thread Toby Pennington
Hector,  I would not get too excited about a few DBs on way or another.   It is 
just not going to make that much difference.  Also,  diversity receive with the 
 5000 is not going to work as well as in the K3. 

The bothersome thing about the FT dx 5000 mp to me is the weight.another 52 
pound rig that will be a pain in the rear to box up and ship for repairs.  I am 
69 years old now and have an Icom 7700.   I shipped it out once for repair and 
it was a pain getting it boxed up and shipped.  Not only that,  but repairs are 
expensive with the big rigs.  IF you lose a logic board then you are looking at 
a $2k repair bill including shipping both ways.  

Strong points for the K3,  lighter weight,  easy to ship,  repairs are not 
expensive,  and can be done in the field on occasion.  Great 
performance...also a great rig for portable operation.The only negative 
is the user interface which is not really that great when compared to the 
competition.  Some will take me to task for this comment,  but I feel it is 
warranted.  

Yaesu and Kenwood have both jumped on the down conversion band wagon now.  They 
see the success of Elecraft and want a piece of the market. Elecraft is winning 
the hearts and minds of contesters and dxers,but to some extent casual 
operators still like the bigger rigs with more convenience operationally.  

My guess is the the FT 5000 will be a big seller,   as the user interface 
should be more friendly,  plus the high performance stats of the receiver will 
be attractive.  The price for the MP version is about  6,200.  A fully loaded 
K3 can run over $5k,   so not too much difference in price when you think about 
feature sets of the two rigs when loaded with comparable features.  

The Kenwood 950 with two roofing filters  2.8 and 500 hz priced at 1,800 could 
be a sleeper for many looking for a lower price version of the K3. 

Time will tell as we go forward..it will be interesting to see what 
develops!

Toby  W4CAK






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Re: [Elecraft] FT5000 review in Radcom

2010-05-22 Thread Phil Hystad
I think the idea of competition is good for all so having Yaesu or Kenwood come 
out with rigs that challenge Elecraft is a good thing.

However, in all this kind of talk I never see or hear of the best reason to go 
with Elecraft -- at least from my own perspective.  It is that these guys, Eric 
and Wayne, are probably on average 15 to 20 years younger then I am so as long 
as they are making money, I am sure to benefit by their future creations.

I like the idea of a backup rig and I may get bored with my Icom 756 Pro III as 
a backup so having the option of buying the new Kenwood or the FT 5000 is kind 
of nice.  And, I can always consider buying another K3.

73, phil, K7PEH

On May 22, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Toby Pennington wrote:

 Hector,  I would not get too excited about a few DBs on way or another.   It 
 is just not going to make that much difference.  Also,  diversity receive 
 with the  5000 is not going to work as well as in the K3. 
 
 The bothersome thing about the FT dx 5000 mp to me is the weight.another 
 52 pound rig that will be a pain in the rear to box up and ship for repairs.  
 I am 69 years old now and have an Icom 7700.   I shipped it out once for 
 repair and it was a pain getting it boxed up and shipped.  Not only that,  
 but repairs are expensive with the big rigs.  IF you lose a logic board then 
 you are looking at a $2k repair bill including shipping both ways.  
 
 Strong points for the K3,  lighter weight,  easy to ship,  repairs are not 
 expensive,  and can be done in the field on occasion.  Great 
 performance...also a great rig for portable operation.The only 
 negative is the user interface which is not really that great when compared 
 to the competition.  Some will take me to task for this comment,  but I feel 
 it is warranted.  
 
 Yaesu and Kenwood have both jumped on the down conversion band wagon now.  
 They see the success of Elecraft and want a piece of the market. Elecraft is 
 winning the hearts and minds of contesters and dxers,but to some extent 
 casual operators still like the bigger rigs with more convenience 
 operationally.  
 
 My guess is the the FT 5000 will be a big seller,   as the user interface 
 should be more friendly,  plus the high performance stats of the receiver 
 will be attractive.  The price for the MP version is about  6,200.  A fully 
 loaded K3 can run over $5k,   so not too much difference in price when you 
 think about feature sets of the two rigs when loaded with comparable 
 features.  
 
 The Kenwood 950 with two roofing filters  2.8 and 500 hz priced at 1,800 
 could be a sleeper for many looking for a lower price version of the K3. 
 
 Time will tell as we go forward..it will be interesting to see what 
 develops!
 
 Toby  W4CAK
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] FT5000 review in Radcom

2010-05-22 Thread Edward R Cole
Price!  One of the reasons I chose the K3 over the Flex5000.
Dual-Rx is an essential part of my use.  Both Rx must lock in frequency.
Portability (previously discussed), is another.
Rx performance is the primary one (low phase noise LO).
K3 looks nice on my radio shelf!

Ed - KL7UW

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==sniped===

One has to be real about this.  The likely price of the FT5000 will, I
suspect, be several times that of the K3. It won't run off 12V, and it
certainly would not fit on my operating desk! I also would not be prepared
to spend that kind of money. I would also wager that 99.9% of users would
notice no real world difference in receive performance between it and the
K3, or indeed one or two other other top end radios.  It is, however, very
pretty...!

Horses for courses

73 Stephen G4SJP



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[Elecraft] Museum Ships/FT5000

2010-05-22 Thread WILLIS COOKE

Since I lived through the CB Heyday of the 1970s all I need to know is that it 
is from the same nice people that gave every CBer his dream rig, the FT-101, 
but the weight carries great weight with me.

I like to put my K3 in a brief case and the power supply, key, mike and some 
tools in another and carry it out to the USS Cavalla, SSK-244 on Pelican 
Island, TX.  I can carry both brief cases, along with my ample 69 year old 
body on board, down the ladder and through two bulkhead ports to the radio room 
in one trip.   And, I have a first class transceiver when I get there!  Also, 
it fits in the not so ample space that is available.  I don't think I could 
make it with a FT5000.

Look for me June 67 for the Museum Ships of the Air weekend.  CW ops are 
centered around 40 KHz above the bottom of the bands.  I will be on 20 and 40 
and the higher bands if they are open.  We also have the USS Stewart, DE-214 
along side which will be operating SSB.  We will both be using KK5W, the Brazos 
Valley ARC club call sign.  We count two ships for one plus NA-143 for IOTA

Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 


  
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 out on the Appalachian Trail

2010-05-22 Thread Fred Atchley
Ron, GL with your K1 on the trail. I'll listen for you tonight on 40M. The
XYL and I visited the start of the AT (Georgia) 2 weeks ago. There were
reports of lots of Black bear activity. Campers were told to hang their food
high in a tree (at least 12 feet up and 8 feet from the tree trunk). 73,
Fred, AE6IC, K3 2241

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[Elecraft] K3 Power Supply

2010-05-22 Thread Phil LaMarche
I have a 35 and 70 amp Astron PS for home use.  I want to buy a supply that
is light and nice for taking it on vacations etc.  Any recommendations?
 
Phil
 
Philip LaMarche
 
LaMarche Enterprises, Inc
p...@lamarcheenterprises.com
www.LaMarcheEnterprises.com http://www.lamarcheenterprises.com/  
 
727-944-3226
727-937-8834 Fax
727-510-5038 Cell 
 
www.w9dvm.com http://www.w9dvm.com/ 
 
K3 #1605
 
CCA 98-00827
CRA 1701
W9DVM
 
 
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[Elecraft] FT5000 review in Radcom/ new DXPedition

2010-05-22 Thread Hector Padron
Again Toby you are absolutely right,time will say what is going to happen in 
the market with the new yaesu rig,when I read by first time the manual and saw 
the new factory installed real six poles roofing filters for 15, 6 and 3 Khz I 
thought that was a deep improvement in performance but like I said,we have to 
read what the trustable source about it.
That as you said don't mean at all that many K3 users will jump in to it to 
purchase it because after we have reduced space on the desk with our K3 and 
after you have transported it easily to all other places as portable,unit,it 
makes it more attarctive that all those big radios.Maybe it might be a couple 
of db better in performance which after all it won't make any difference.
In any case cudos for Yaesu.
By the way speaking about dxpeditions and K3's next weekend the 29th and 30th, 
I will be operating in CW the DXPedition to Peanut island here in Palm beach 
county,FL, I will be using for 48 hours my K3 as well as my friend Julio AD4Z 
will bring his K3,there will be a bunch of other radios that will be 
FT-1000MP's and IC-756ProIII and ProII. We will be very active in 160 to 6M in 
all modes.Call sign will be W4K at the former JFK bunker built for the October 
missiles crisis.More info will be found at qrz.com  
 
AD4C 

For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3

--- On Sat, 5/22/10, Toby Pennington toby...@embarqmail.com wrote:


From: Toby Pennington toby...@embarqmail.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT5000 review in Radcom
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 4:07 PM


Hector,  I would not get too excited about a few DBs on way or another.   It is 
just not going to make that much difference.  Also,  diversity receive with 
the  5000 is not going to work as well as in the K3. 

The bothersome thing about the FT dx 5000 mp to me is the weight.another 52 
pound rig that will be a pain in the rear to box up and ship for repairs.  I am 
69 years old now and have an Icom 7700.   I shipped it out once for repair and 
it was a pain getting it boxed up and shipped.  Not only that,  but repairs are 
expensive with the big rigs.  IF you lose a logic board then you are looking at 
a $2k repair bill including shipping both ways.  

Strong points for the K3,  lighter weight,  easy to ship,  repairs are not 
expensive,  and can be done in the field on occasion.  Great 
performance...also a great rig for portable operation.    The only negative 
is the user interface which is not really that great when compared to the 
competition.  Some will take me to task for this comment,  but I feel it is 
warranted.  

Yaesu and Kenwood have both jumped on the down conversion band wagon now.  They 
see the success of Elecraft and want a piece of the market. Elecraft is winning 
the hearts and minds of contesters and dxers,    but to some extent casual 
operators still like the bigger rigs with more convenience operationally.  

My guess is the the FT 5000 will be a big seller,   as the user interface 
should be more friendly,  plus the high performance stats of the receiver will 
be attractive.  The price for the MP version is about  6,200.  A fully loaded 
K3 can run over $5k,   so not too much difference in price when you think about 
feature sets of the two rigs when loaded with comparable features.  

The Kenwood 950 with two roofing filters  2.8 and 500 hz priced at 1,800 could 
be a sleeper for many looking for a lower price version of the K3. 

Time will tell as we go forward..it will be interesting to see what 
develops!

Toby  W4CAK






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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply

2010-05-22 Thread Duncan Carter
I've been using a MFJ 4125P since October, 2009 with no problems.  It 
does have some fan noise that I attenuate by putting it behind my 
computer monitor plus I wear headphones most of the time.

Dunc, W5DC


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[Elecraft] Test... Pse Disregard

2010-05-22 Thread Ken
Test... Pse Disregard.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply

2010-05-22 Thread David M. Elliott
Here is what I use.  I don't know of any smaller.

http://www.gammaresearch.net/hps-1a.html

73 de W6BK
On May 22, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Phil LaMarche wrote:

 I have a 35 and 70 amp Astron PS for home use.  I want to buy a supply that
 is light and nice for taking it on vacations etc.  Any recommendations?
 
 Phil
 
 Philip LaMarche
 
 LaMarche Enterprises, Inc
 p...@lamarcheenterprises.com
 www.LaMarcheEnterprises.com http://www.lamarcheenterprises.com/  
 
 727-944-3226
 727-937-8834 Fax
 727-510-5038 Cell 
 
 www.w9dvm.com http://www.w9dvm.com/ 
 
 K3 #1605
 
 CCA 98-00827
 CRA 1701
 W9DVM
 
 
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[Elecraft] Central Texas K3 Owners

2010-05-22 Thread Tony Lyon
Folks,
I submitted a post earlier and it did not show up on the Elecraft email
list, so
here it goes again

I would appreciate it if any K3 owners that reside in Central TX (i.e.
Austin, Round-Rock
or Georgetown) would be willing to demo of their K3 on the air. I am  a CW
op and not interested
in the SSB characteristics of the K3. CW. I am in the pre-purchase phase
and would like to get an idea of how the K3 is like. If someone could help
out, I would
appreciate it if you could contact me off the list.

73,
Tony Lyon (KJ5XF)
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Re: [Elecraft] FT-5000 againts K3 ?

2010-05-22 Thread Bill W4ZV


AD4C2009 wrote:
 
 Is that Radcom a trustable source,do they have all the professional
 measurement devices Sherwood labs have? If so,what is the difference in
 figures to make it better than our K3 ?
 
 
 For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3
 

Radcom's tests, under Peter Hart G3SJX, are just as trustworthy as ARRL and
Sherwood, and in fact have more continuity (in longevity of personnel,
equipment and procedure) than ARRL and maybe a bit more integrity than
Sherwood.  I say the latter because Rob has had the K3 listed #1 even though
both the Flex 5000 and Perseus exceed it at 500 Hz BW.  The only reason the
K3 is ranked #1 is that it uses a narrower bandwidth (200 Hz) than the other
two rigs to achieve the #1 position.  Rob has this clearly footnoted but it
still doesn't seem right to me to list the K3 at the top based on footnotes.  

With equal 500 Hz BWs, the 2 kHz IMD results are:

Perseus - 99 dB
Flex 5k  - 96 dB
K3- 95 dB

http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

Someone may forward this to Rob which will be no surprise to him since I've
told him this directly.  Frankly I doubt many would notice the difference
between 95, 96, 99 or even 101 (with 200 Hz) so I don't understand why not
rank rigs at identical bandwidths (500 Hz).

73,  Bill

P.S.  It is not compulsory for me to own a K3.  I own a K3 because it
offers me the best performance available at this time for my set of needs. 
(Best performance meaning excellent strong signal handling and true
phase-locked diversity).
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Re: [Elecraft] FT-5000 againts K3 ?

2010-05-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
While the RadCom reports are trustworthy, I have not seen the complete 
test results nor the procedures documented in a manner similar to the 
ARRL test reports and procedures.  I do see and hear Peter Hart's 
ranking (the K3 is 3rd for 2 kHz IMD at 500 Hz BW), but how does it rank 
for the other parameters - there is more to receiver performance than 
just 2 kHz IMD.  What is most important to Peter Hart may not be most 
important to me - there are trade-offs with any piece of equipment, and 
any chosen parameter may be improved at the expense of other parameters.

73,
Don W3FPR

Bill W4ZV wrote:
 Radcom's tests, under Peter Hart G3SJX, are just as trustworthy as ARRL and
 Sherwood, and in fact have more continuity (in longevity of personnel,
 equipment and procedure) than ARRL and maybe a bit more integrity than
 Sherwood.  I say the latter because Rob has had the K3 listed #1 even though
 both the Flex 5000 and Perseus exceed it at 500 Hz BW.  The only reason the
 K3 is ranked #1 is that it uses a narrower bandwidth (200 Hz) than the other
 two rigs to achieve the #1 position.  Rob has this clearly footnoted but it
 still doesn't seem right to me to list the K3 at the top based on footnotes.  

 With equal 500 Hz BWs, the 2 kHz IMD results are:

 Perseus - 99 dB
 Flex 5k  - 96 dB
 K3- 95 dB

 http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

 Someone may forward this to Rob which will be no surprise to him since I've
 told him this directly.  Frankly I doubt many would notice the difference
 between 95, 96, 99 or even 101 (with 200 Hz) so I don't understand why not
 rank rigs at identical bandwidths (500 Hz).

 73,  Bill


   
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Re: [Elecraft] FT5000 review in Radcom

2010-05-22 Thread Eric Tichansky
Toby Pennington wrote:
 Strong points for the K3,  lighter weight,  easy to ship,  repairs are not 
 expensive,  and can be done in the field on occasion.  Great 
 performance...also a great rig for portable operation.The only 
 negative is the user interface which is not really that great when compared 
 to the competition.  Some will take me to task for this comment,  but I feel 
 it is warranted.  
   
The user interface is fine for portability, but I would agree that many 
more functions could be mapped out on the front panel, ie. dedicated 
sub-RX controls (bandwidth, preamp/att, etc.), dual S-meters, larger LCD 
so VFO B freq. stays put and text feedback displayed elsewhere.  More 
generous spacing of controls would be a big plus also.  I know it was 
mentioned that there were no plans for a K4, etc., something to the 
effect of protecting K3 owners investment, but I would think an upgrade 
kit with a larger case, front panel, et.al., to bring the ergonomics up 
to desktop standards would be considered.  There would be no need to 
replace the internals, other than maybe front panel board, interfacing 
to exiting MPU, etc.  Perhaps even enough empty space left in the new 
case for an internal PS.

73 - Eric NO3M
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement

2010-05-22 Thread Phillip Shepard
Hi guys,

The weekly SSB net will meet tomorrow (5/23) at 1800z on 14.314 MHz. I will
be net control from western Oregon. We'll try to pull in other NW stations
that I can't hear.  See you there.

73,
Phil NS7P


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Re: [Elecraft] FT-5000 againts K3 ?

2010-05-22 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Bill,

On 5/22/2010 1:48 PM, Bill W4ZV wrote:

 The only reason the K3 is ranked #1 is that it uses a narrower
 bandwidth (200 Hz) than the other two rigs to achieve the #1
 position.  Rob has this clearly footnoted but it still doesn't
  seem right to me to list the K3 at the top based on footnotes.

I don't believe that the K3 is ranked number 1 only based on
footnotes.  Consider the 100 KHz blocking numbers, the better
wide spaced dynamic range, much lower MDS (without a preamp),
or better phase noise performance (vs. the Flex-5000) and the
K3 is overall a much better, more well balanced performer.

Some of the measures may not be important to a purely CW operator
in the US but 20KHz DR could certainly be important to a phone
contester and the 100 KHz blocking numbers are probably important
to someone in Europe who must deal with the horrendous broadcast
interference issues on 40 meters.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply

2010-05-22 Thread Pete Smith
After some research I settled on a Samlex SEC 1235M, a 30-ampere metered 
supply for $139, $20 less without meters.  It seems quite solid and, so 
far as I can tell so far, RF quiet.  There's a good thorough review of 
it on the Internet - I've lost the URL but you can Google easily.

73, Pete N4ZR

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On 5/22/2010 1:18 PM, David M. Elliott wrote:
 Here is what I use.  I don't know of any smaller.

 http://www.gammaresearch.net/hps-1a.html

 73 de W6BK
 On May 22, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Phil LaMarche wrote:


 I have a 35 and 70 amp Astron PS for home use.  I want to buy a supply that
 is light and nice for taking it on vacations etc.  Any recommendations?

 Phil

 Philip LaMarche

 LaMarche Enterprises, Inc
 p...@lamarcheenterprises.com
 www.LaMarcheEnterprises.comhttp://www.lamarcheenterprises.com/

 727-944-3226
 727-937-8834 Fax
 727-510-5038 Cell

 www.w9dvm.comhttp://www.w9dvm.com/

 K3 #1605

 CCA 98-00827
 CRA 1701
 W9DVM


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Re: [Elecraft] FT-5000 againts K3 ?

2010-05-22 Thread Dave KQ3T
AFAIK, all the testing is done with a single unit. Does anyone have an 
idea as to what the normal unit-to-unit variation is? Are we talking 
0.1dB, 1dB, 5dB?

73,
Dave KQ3T
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply

2010-05-22 Thread Randy Moore
I also choose the Samlex 1235M. The guys at Gigaparts told me that,  
unlike other supplies they sell, they had never had a Samlex brought  
back. It has served me well.

73,
Randy, KS4L

On May 22, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Pete Smith n...@contesting.com wrote:

 After some research I settled on a Samlex SEC 1235M, a 30-ampere  
 metered
 supply for $139, $20 less without meters.  It seems quite solid and,  
 so
 far as I can tell so far, RF quiet.  There's a good thorough review of
 it on the Internet - I've lost the URL but you can Google easily.

 73, Pete N4ZR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Rev. 3.97: new DSP NB algorithm, improved TX INHibit, accurate S-meter w/AGC off, etc.

2010-05-22 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Hello,

I wanted to download 3.97 but I couldn´t get it.

K3 utility worked but in the Available columns appears only the versions I
already have:

MCU 03.79
FPF 01.08
DSP102.54
DSP202.54
DVR 01.03

Any Idea I am not getting the latest versions?

Thanks,

Jorge
CX6VM
K3 #4077


-Mensaje original-
De: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] En nombre de Wayne Burdick
Enviado el: Martes, 18 de Mayo de 2010 04:06 p.m.
Para: Elecraft Reflector; elecraft...@yahoogroups.com;
elecr...@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Rev. 3.97: new DSP NB algorithm, improved TX
INHibit, accurate S-meter w/AGC off, etc.

K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.97 (with DSP rev. 2.58) is now  
available. This revision has several significant improvements; see  
release notes below. (Note that QRQ mode -- enhanced high-speed CW  
-- will be in the next release.)

Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions  
on how to load beta firmware, see:

  http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *

MCU 3.97 / DSP 2.58, 5-9-2010

* TX INHIBIT IMPROVEMENT: If TX INH is active (see
CONFIG:TX INH), voice monitor and CW/DATA tones are disabled,
giving the operator audible feedback about inhibited status to
supplement the flashing “TX” icon.

* DSP NOISE BLANKER IMPROVED: A new algorithm has
been added that makes the DSP NB more effective on
some types of noise. Odd-numbered DSP NB levels (t1-1,
t1-3, t1-5, etc.) apply the new algorithm, while even-numbered
levels use the original. To avoid unwanted interaction between
the NB and on-air signals, always use the lowest effective setting.

* CW KEYING ARTIFACT WITH AFX/DELAY ELIMINATED:
The “DELAY” settings of AFX previously created a small audio
artifact when listening to CW keying in the presence of background
noise or signals.

* AGC-OFF S-METER IMPROVEMENT: Turning AGC off no longer
results in a drop in the S-meter reading. This was most noticeable
in the presence of strong band noise.

* K144XV S-METER NOW ACCURATE: The S-meter reading is
now adjusted to account for RX gain when the K144XV is in use.

* TX NOISE GATE IMPROVED: The voice transmit noise gate
now uses a downward expander rather than simple gating.
See TX GATE menu entry for further details.

* MANUAL NOTCH: Pitch now defaults to 1000 rather than 2000 Hz.
This starting point is a better compromise between CW and SSB.

* ESSB ON/OFF COMMAND: The new “ES” control command
can be used to turn ESSB on/off via a switch macro or from a
software application. The K3 must also be in LSB or USB mode
before ESSB ON takes effect. (See K3 Programmer’s Reference.)

* BN REMOTE CONTROL COMMAND (BAND CHANGE):
Previously this command was “GET only”, returning the
present band number (00-24). It can now be used as a SET
command to switch to the desired band. For example, BN00;
switches to the last-used frequency on 160 m. Note: VFO B
will also be restored to its last frequency used on the new band,
except in the case where CONFIG:VFO IND is set to YES.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Allband?

2010-05-22 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
So is not possible to get 100 watts outside bands?  For example in 6999.5.

There´s to be CB that QRM in 7000, and I ask them in 6999.5 to move down and
most of the time they gently move down to another channel..!

73,
Jorge
CX6VM

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De: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] En nombre de Edward R Cole
Enviado el: Martes, 18 de Mayo de 2010 03:23 p.m.
Para: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Asunto: [Elecraft] K3 Allband?

Martin,

Exactly!  You need the KBPF3 General Coverage board and KVX3 (which 
it sounds like you have).  Then go into Configuration and select the 
KVX3 rotate the main VFO knob to select the TEST mode and exit 
Config.  The radio will not transmit on any frequency dialed up with 
up to 1mw out at the transverter output jack (hopefully this is 
sufficient drive for your UHF xvtr; I will be driving a DEMI 144/28 
xvtr with my K3 at 1mw).  Elecraft intended the TEST mode to allow 
transmitting so that the Tx RF amp was disabled and no harm would 
occur.  Like code practise sending.

But it turns out to be a good sneak circuit for transmitting outside 
ham bands (albeit at very low RF).

This is how I use my K3 to transmit at 500-KHz as part of the ARRL 
Experimental 600 meter Group (WD2XSH).  I follow the K3 with a 2N915 
buffer amp which drives a surplus converted non-directional beacon 
transmitter to 100w output on 495-510-KHz.  Our group is only 
permitted to use CW, QRSS, PSK and WSPR - no voice modes.

73, Ed - KL7UW

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Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:57:08 +0200
From: DM4iM hamra...@vr-web.de
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Allband?
To: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15

Elecrafters,
how can i make a K3 transmit outside the ham bands?
I have a non-elecraft transverter covering 430-440 Mhz, i need to RX 
TX from 20-30Mhz. I guess i will also need the general coverage filter?

Martin



73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Rev. 3.97: new DSP NB algorithm, improved TX INHibit, accurate S-meter w/AGC off, etc.

2010-05-22 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Hello, Jorge.

MCU version 3.97 is a beta version.

Here is the link the K3 firmware Beta installation instructions page:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_beta_release_instructions.htm

73 de Dick, K6KR



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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 12:25 PM
To: 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Rev. 3.97: new DSP NB algorithm,
improved TX INHibit, accurate S-meter w/AGC off, etc.

Hello,

I wanted to download 3.97 but I couldn´t get it.

K3 utility worked but in the Available columns appears only the versions I
already have:

MCU 03.79
FPF 01.08
DSP102.54
DSP202.54
DVR 01.03

Any Idea I am not getting the latest versions?

Thanks,

Jorge
CX6VM
K3 #4077


-Mensaje original-
De: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] En nombre de Wayne Burdick
Enviado el: Martes, 18 de Mayo de 2010 04:06 p.m.
Para: Elecraft Reflector; elecraft...@yahoogroups.com;
elecr...@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Rev. 3.97: new DSP NB algorithm, improved TX
INHibit, accurate S-meter w/AGC off, etc.

K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.97 (with DSP rev. 2.58) is now  
available. This revision has several significant improvements; see  
release notes below. (Note that QRQ mode -- enhanced high-speed CW  
-- will be in the next release.)

Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions  
on how to load beta firmware, see:

  http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *

MCU 3.97 / DSP 2.58, 5-9-2010

* TX INHIBIT IMPROVEMENT: If TX INH is active (see
CONFIG:TX INH), voice monitor and CW/DATA tones are disabled,
giving the operator audible feedback about inhibited status to
supplement the flashing “TX” icon.

* DSP NOISE BLANKER IMPROVED: A new algorithm has
been added that makes the DSP NB more effective on
some types of noise. Odd-numbered DSP NB levels (t1-1,
t1-3, t1-5, etc.) apply the new algorithm, while even-numbered
levels use the original. To avoid unwanted interaction between
the NB and on-air signals, always use the lowest effective setting.

* CW KEYING ARTIFACT WITH AFX/DELAY ELIMINATED:
The “DELAY” settings of AFX previously created a small audio
artifact when listening to CW keying in the presence of background
noise or signals.

* AGC-OFF S-METER IMPROVEMENT: Turning AGC off no longer
results in a drop in the S-meter reading. This was most noticeable
in the presence of strong band noise.

* K144XV S-METER NOW ACCURATE: The S-meter reading is
now adjusted to account for RX gain when the K144XV is in use.

* TX NOISE GATE IMPROVED: The voice transmit noise gate
now uses a downward expander rather than simple gating.
See TX GATE menu entry for further details.

* MANUAL NOTCH: Pitch now defaults to 1000 rather than 2000 Hz.
This starting point is a better compromise between CW and SSB.

* ESSB ON/OFF COMMAND: The new “ES” control command
can be used to turn ESSB on/off via a switch macro or from a
software application. The K3 must also be in LSB or USB mode
before ESSB ON takes effect. (See K3 Programmer’s Reference.)

* BN REMOTE CONTROL COMMAND (BAND CHANGE):
Previously this command was “GET only”, returning the
present band number (00-24). It can now be used as a SET
command to switch to the desired band. For example, BN00;
switches to the last-used frequency on 160 m. Note: VFO B
will also be restored to its last frequency used on the new band,
except in the case where CONFIG:VFO IND is set to YES.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Rev. 3.97: new DSP NB algorithm, improved TX INHibit, accurate S-meter w/AGC off, etc.

2010-05-22 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Ok thanks for the info,

I think I will wait it to be firm to download from K3 utility :-)

Thanks all for the info

73,
Jorge
CX6VM

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De: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:die...@comcast.net] 
Enviado el: Sábado, 22 de Mayo de 2010 05:01 p.m.
Para: 'Jorge Diez - CX6VM'; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Asunto: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Rev. 3.97: new DSP NB algorithm, improved
TX INHibit, accurate S-meter w/AGC off, etc.

Hello, Jorge.

MCU version 3.97 is a beta version.

Here is the link the K3 firmware Beta installation instructions page:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_beta_release_instructions.htm

73 de Dick, K6KR



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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 12:25 PM
To: 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Rev. 3.97: new DSP NB algorithm,
improved TX INHibit, accurate S-meter w/AGC off, etc.

Hello,

I wanted to download 3.97 but I couldn´t get it.

K3 utility worked but in the Available columns appears only the versions I
already have:

MCU 03.79
FPF 01.08
DSP102.54
DSP202.54
DVR 01.03

Any Idea I am not getting the latest versions?

Thanks,

Jorge
CX6VM
K3 #4077


-Mensaje original-
De: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] En nombre de Wayne Burdick
Enviado el: Martes, 18 de Mayo de 2010 04:06 p.m.
Para: Elecraft Reflector; elecraft...@yahoogroups.com;
elecr...@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Rev. 3.97: new DSP NB algorithm, improved TX
INHibit, accurate S-meter w/AGC off, etc.

K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.97 (with DSP rev. 2.58) is now  
available. This revision has several significant improvements; see  
release notes below. (Note that QRQ mode -- enhanced high-speed CW  
-- will be in the next release.)

Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions  
on how to load beta firmware, see:

  http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *

MCU 3.97 / DSP 2.58, 5-9-2010

* TX INHIBIT IMPROVEMENT: If TX INH is active (see
CONFIG:TX INH), voice monitor and CW/DATA tones are disabled,
giving the operator audible feedback about inhibited status to
supplement the flashing “TX” icon.

* DSP NOISE BLANKER IMPROVED: A new algorithm has
been added that makes the DSP NB more effective on
some types of noise. Odd-numbered DSP NB levels (t1-1,
t1-3, t1-5, etc.) apply the new algorithm, while even-numbered
levels use the original. To avoid unwanted interaction between
the NB and on-air signals, always use the lowest effective setting.

* CW KEYING ARTIFACT WITH AFX/DELAY ELIMINATED:
The “DELAY” settings of AFX previously created a small audio
artifact when listening to CW keying in the presence of background
noise or signals.

* AGC-OFF S-METER IMPROVEMENT: Turning AGC off no longer
results in a drop in the S-meter reading. This was most noticeable
in the presence of strong band noise.

* K144XV S-METER NOW ACCURATE: The S-meter reading is
now adjusted to account for RX gain when the K144XV is in use.

* TX NOISE GATE IMPROVED: The voice transmit noise gate
now uses a downward expander rather than simple gating.
See TX GATE menu entry for further details.

* MANUAL NOTCH: Pitch now defaults to 1000 rather than 2000 Hz.
This starting point is a better compromise between CW and SSB.

* ESSB ON/OFF COMMAND: The new “ES” control command
can be used to turn ESSB on/off via a switch macro or from a
software application. The K3 must also be in LSB or USB mode
before ESSB ON takes effect. (See K3 Programmer’s Reference.)

* BN REMOTE CONTROL COMMAND (BAND CHANGE):
Previously this command was “GET only”, returning the
present band number (00-24). It can now be used as a SET
command to switch to the desired band. For example, BN00;
switches to the last-used frequency on 160 m. Note: VFO B
will also be restored to its last frequency used on the new band,
except in the case where CONFIG:VFO IND is set to YES.

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Re: [Elecraft] FT-5000 againts K3 ?

2010-05-22 Thread Bill W4ZV


Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote:
 
 
 I don't believe that the K3 is ranked number 1 only based on
 footnotes.  Consider the 100 KHz blocking numbers, the better
 wide spaced dynamic range, much lower MDS (without a preamp),
 or better phase noise performance (vs. the Flex-5000) and the
 K3 is overall a much better, more well balanced performer.
 

Joe you're mistaken about the ranking methodology.  At the very top of the
page, it states:

*
Receiver Test Data

(Sorted by Dynamic Range Narrow Spaced)
*

http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

I agree that other parameters are important, but Rob's ranking is actually
by 2 kHz IMDDR3 *only*.  Hence my quibble with ranking the K3 #1, which is
not true if based on apples-to-apples (500 Hz BW) measurements.

73,  Bill




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply

2010-05-22 Thread István Szabó
On 5/22/2010 6:47 PM, Phil LaMarche wrote:
 I have a 35 and 70 amp Astron PS for home use.  I want to buy a supply that
 is light and nice for taking it on vacations etc.  Any recommendations?

 Phil

 Philip LaMarche

 LaMarche Enterprises, Inc
 p...@lamarcheenterprises.com
 www.LaMarcheEnterprises.comhttp://www.lamarcheenterprises.com/

 727-944-3226
 727-937-8834 Fax
 727-510-5038 Cell

 www.w9dvm.comhttp://www.w9dvm.com/

 K3 #1605

 CCA 98-00827
 CRA 1701
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Alfatronix in UK does make fantastic SPSs. No noise at all, as good as a 
linear supply, small and light. I use the 36W version with K3/10W.

73, István

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[Elecraft] K3 gain changes with filter selection

2010-05-22 Thread Richard Haendel
I have a K3 with three filters, 2.7 KHz (FL1) , 400 Hz(FL2)  and 200 Hz ( FL3) 
.  When I reduce the bandwidth from 4.0 KHz, the radio performs as expected 
EXCEPT when the the different filter switches in. When I reduce the bandwidth 
and it switches from FL1 to FL2, the receiver gain goes up at least 12 dB. Whe 
I further reduce the bandwidth and the radio switches frm FL2 to FL3,  the gain 
reduces to that of FL1.  Filter gains are set at 0 dB, 1 dB and 3 dB for FL1 
thru FL3.  This happens in USB as well as CW.   When I use FL2, I need to turn 
down the RF gain. What's happning?

Rich W3ACO

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Re: [Elecraft] Museum Ships/FT5000

2010-05-22 Thread WILLIS COOKE
You are absolutely right Ray, Mia Culpa.  It is June 5  6 and I think we will 
have some activity Friday night, June 4 as well.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: Raymond Anderson rayk8...@gmail.com
To: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com
Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 2:02:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Museum Ships/FT5000

Isn't that the 56 of June
Ray K8RDJ


On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:38 PM, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote:


Since I lived through the CB Heyday of the 1970s all I need to know is that it 
is from the same nice people that gave every CBer his dream rig, the FT-101, 
but the weight carries great weight with me.

I like to put my K3 in a brief case and the power supply, key, mike and some 
tools in another and carry it out to the USS Cavalla, SSK-244 on Pelican 
Island, TX.  I can carry both brief cases, along with my ample 69 year old 
body on board, down the ladder and through two bulkhead ports to the radio 
room in one trip.   And, I have a first class transceiver when I get there!  
Also, it fits in the not so ample space that is available.  I don't think I 
could make it with a FT5000.

Look for me June 67 for the Museum Ships of the Air weekend.  CW ops are 
centered around 40 KHz above the bottom of the bands.  I will be on 20 and 40 
and the higher bands if they are open.  We also have the USS Stewart, DE-214 
along side which will be operating SSB.  We will both be using KK5W, the 
Brazos Valley ARC club call sign.  We count two ships for one plus NA-143 for 
IOTA

Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 out on the Appalachian Trail

2010-05-22 Thread Ron Polityka
Hello,

  Before I departed the home QTH for the Appalachian Trail I 
took one last look at the weather radar. I was glad I did 
that when I did because I would have been driving into rain 
and I would have not gotten out on the AT at all today. So I 
headed towards the East in PA land.

 I arrived at the trail head parking lot around 14:30 UTC. I 
have hiked thru this area about two years ago but I did not 
remember if there were any good operating locations. I hiked 
South on the Appalachian Trail with out my gear for about 1 
mile. No good operating sites and I was going down in 
elevation. I hiked back to my car and put the back pack on 
and headed North. I hiked in around 3/4 of a mile and found 
a nice spot to setup.

 I started calling CQ on 14.060 around 15:30 UTC.  I did not 
have any luck. I tuned around the band and I did not hear 
too many signals on the CW portion of the band. I went over 
to 7.040 and I heard Pierre de VE2PID calling CQ. We had a 
nice chat before the QSB was playing with my signal. After 
Pierre and I signed I did hear a couple of stations sending 
just their call. Since Pierre was calling CQ on the freq. I 
moved up to 7.042 and called CQ. I worked Art de K8CIT in 
Hillman, MI. We had a nice chat until Art said he had to go 
QRT due to the heavy QRN in his area.

 At this point in time I took a few pictures and had my 
snack. I could not find any Salmon to eat at 1,400 feet in 
elevation. So I had what the cousin black bears eat, dried 
berries and fruit. I will post a picture later.

 I called CQ on 15m for a while, I tired but there was no 
signals. I started calling CQ on 14.060 again and I thought 
I felt some rain drops. So while I was calling CQ I turn on 
my cell phone to see if I had a signal. I did so, I checked 
the radar and I seen a large dark green  patch moving in my 
direction. Then I worked Steve de NU7T in NV. He was running 
900 mW into a beam. Great signal Steve but the QSB seemed to 
be the spoiler today.

 I packed up and hiked back out to my car. While driving 
down off the mountain the skies open up and it started to 
rain. What timing. I did not make many QSO's today but I did 
get out onto the trail and made 3 contacts and that is 
better than making no contacts.

 I did notice one thing while I was out on the Appalachian 
Trail today. There were a lot of women hiking in groups or 
by them selves. They were not out for a day hike because 
they had large back packs on with gear hanging off the 
packs. One group of women had way too much perfume on and 
that could mean trouble for them over night.

 If you were looking for me, I want to thank you for taking 
the time to do so.

1,180 QSO's from the AT.

72 and Thanks,
Ron Polityka
WB3AAL

K1 - SN 01011
K2 - SN 01392

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 gain changes with filter selection

2010-05-22 Thread N3XX
Look in the manual on page 46 - Filter Loss Compensation.
Following the procedure there should get them equalized for you.

73,
Tim - N3XX

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Haendel rhaen...@q.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:28 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 gain changes with filter selection


I have a K3 with three filters, 2.7 KHz (FL1) , 400 Hz(FL2)  and 200 Hz ( 
FL3) .  When I reduce the bandwidth from 4.0 KHz, the radio performs as 
expected EXCEPT when the the different filter switches in. When I reduce 
the bandwidth and it switches from FL1 to FL2, the receiver gain goes up at 
least 12 dB. Whe I further reduce the bandwidth and the radio switches frm 
FL2 to FL3,  the gain reduces to that of FL1.  Filter gains are set at 0 
dB, 1 dB and 3 dB for FL1 thru FL3.  This happens in USB as well as CW. 
When I use FL2, I need to turn down the RF gain. What's happning?

 Rich W3ACO

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 gain changes with filter selection

2010-05-22 Thread N3XX
Sorry, I just read your message more closely, and it looks like you have 
already been through those settings.  I'm not sure what else might be the 
problem.  Maybe someone else has an idea.

73,
Tim - N3XX

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 gain changes with filter selection


 Look in the manual on page 46 - Filter Loss Compensation.
 Following the procedure there should get them equalized for you.

 73,
 Tim - N3XX

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 From: Richard Haendel rhaen...@q.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:28 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 gain changes with filter selection


I have a K3 with three filters, 2.7 KHz (FL1) , 400 Hz(FL2)  and 200 Hz (
FL3) .  When I reduce the bandwidth from 4.0 KHz, the radio performs as
expected EXCEPT when the the different filter switches in. When I reduce
the bandwidth and it switches from FL1 to FL2, the receiver gain goes up 
at
least 12 dB. Whe I further reduce the bandwidth and the radio switches frm
FL2 to FL3,  the gain reduces to that of FL1.  Filter gains are set at 0
dB, 1 dB and 3 dB for FL1 thru FL3.  This happens in USB as well as CW.
When I use FL2, I need to turn down the RF gain. What's happning?

 Rich W3ACO

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 gain changes with filter selection

2010-05-22 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Are the filter offsets correct?

Duck, K6KR

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On May 22, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Richard Haendel rhaen...@q.com wrote:

 I have a K3 with three filters, 2.7 KHz (FL1) , 400 Hz(FL2)  and 200  
 Hz ( FL3) .  When I reduce the bandwidth from 4.0 KHz, the radio  
 performs as expected EXCEPT when the the different filter switches  
 in. When I reduce the bandwidth and it switches from FL1 to FL2, the  
 receiver gain goes up at least 12 dB. Whe I further reduce the  
 bandwidth and the radio switches frm FL2 to FL3,  the gain reduces  
 to that of FL1.  Filter gains are set at 0 dB, 1 dB and 3 dB for FL1  
 thru FL3.  This happens in USB as well as CW.   When I use FL2, I  
 need to turn down the RF gain. What's happning?

 Rich W3ACO

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply

2010-05-22 Thread Paul

I have a 35 and 70 amp Astron PS for home use.  I want to buy a supply that
is light and nice for taking it on vacations etc.  Any recommendations?

The Astron SS-30M is light and works FB.

Just take the top cover off and tighten all the PC board mounting screws.

Paul N4LCD 

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[Elecraft] K3:DSP upgrade error ERR DSE?

2010-05-22 Thread Craig
Hi

I just finished upgrading my DSP board with new swapped DSP board.

I am getting  the following  error message

E040EA3
ERR DSE

According to manual ERR DSE  is Missing echo from a DSP command

I have not  put my old original DSP board back yet to see if it  fixes things.

Anyone perhaps have experience with this problem when doing the upgrade?


73
Craig
VK3HE





  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3:DSP upgrade error ERR DSE?

2010-05-22 Thread Lyle Johnson

 I just finished upgrading my DSP board with new swapped DSP board.

 I am getting  the following  error message...

Might be due to significantly different versions of MCU and DSP code.  
See if you can update the firmware in the DSP and/or MCU to the latest 
and see if the error goes away.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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[Elecraft] Whose radio? People vote with their pocketbooks. Only election day counts.

2010-05-22 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
It's interesting to watch the speculation that Elecraft's share might
be diminished because one of the Japanese manufacturers, after a
decade of pooh-poohing the down/convert roofed front end, finally
manages to put out a model with exactly that.  The reflectors are like
the talking heads on the political channels that keep the hype going
endlessly because they have to fill 24/7 somehow.  Every little ripple
in all things equipment gets tossed around, but it's not the reflector
media hype that is driving the growing Elecraft share of the market.

People vote with their wallets.  And it's only election day that
counts.  While TenTec put some very good rigs down, particularly the
Orions, those did not scare the BJ out of Yakencom. I have no problem
operating an Orion in a contest, now I understand what makes it tick
and have some critical configuration numbers to make it go like I want
it to.  But I'll take the K3's AGC and specifics, particularly the
combo of settings that neutralizes key clicks.  But since the key
click trick has been such a hard sell to the reflector audience, it
has to be something else other than individual DSP trickies for CW ops
that has done it for Elecraft.

I'd call it the NASCAR effect.  Contesters have been adopting K3's in
droves.  So what?   Contesters gossip, they go play with each other's
rigs at multi-ops.  They have club meetings.  They are endlessly on
IM, skype, email with each other. There is a network of friends of
friends of friends. Everything any manufacturer does gets endlessly
dissected both publicly and privately, good or bad, great or ghastly.
While this may not have been so true ten years ago, the latest doings
of Wayne, Eric, et al, get repeated in today's hyper-information space
along with every other manufacturer's doings and not-doings.

Elecraft has had some good habits, which, assuming they keep them up,
are going to keep them around for a very long time. These go far
beyond whether the K3 is number one on this or that list, though the
superior RX performance surely got Elecraft their best press at a
critical time. In no particular order:

*Responsiveness*  The technical high end of their customer base is
also the technical high end of the general electronics knowledge base,
with some very serious names among Elecraft owners. Attention to and
RESPONDING to a technical audience has the effect of creating a
dispersed engineering staff of the best, well beyond Elecraft's
ability to garner a purely paid staff. It also stands in object,
stark, contrast to the completely closed system at Yakencom.

*Open Testing regimen*  Elecraft uses a three layer volunteer testing
regime for their firmware. They keep a polite tolerance of some
pathological nay-sayers and outright trolls on their reflector, only
gently limiting the feedback when threads bordering on True North
extend.  While any one of us might disagree with the views of someone
else and may debate it on the reflector, Wayne has the opportunity to
sit back out of sight and quietly weigh the pros and cons and business
implications of all the text flying back and forth.  Some companies
would kill for feedback with those kinds of marketing implications.

*Anti-NotInventedHere*.  Elecraft has a group of friendly non-employee
hams who contribute significant ideas, and occasionally get involved
in company communications on same.  Elecraft actually evaluates these,
and has and will incorporate such in design.  The improvements in the
product line are the contributor's well-enjoyed reward.

*Incremental/optional approach to product features*  The
buy-a-new-model-to-get-new-features-or-fixes tactic taken by Yakencom
for all these years has been defeated by upgradeable DSP firmware and
a responsive firmware writer.  Now all the money that WOULD have been
spent for new features/fixes buying a new radio can be spent on
integrated, smart accessories, or main radio options that also work
with upgradeable firmware. Or perhaps more important, someone who can
just afford a K3 in the first place can keep pace for a long time in
the single piece of electronics they can manage to purchase.  This
same aspect will work to keep the resale value very high, as will the
remarkably low number of used K3's on the market.

*A non-leveraged business model*  Elecraft is moving forward on a
stable built-on-their-own-earnings foundation which separates them
from the stock market.  It is important to note that the success of
the K3 has been built up right through the worst financial decline
since the great depression, and built up selling a product that is
100% not needed for family survival.  Elecraft is not a business
without bones or muscle.  If you DIDN'T have the right stuff, you went
down in the last two years.  Even businesses WITH the right stuff have
gone down in the last two years.

Whose radio is getting bought is a slow moving trend and a brand
switch on purchase is a hard sell. Hams are worse about their radios
than most folks 

Re: [Elecraft] Whose radio? People vote with their pocketbooks. Only election day counts.

2010-05-22 Thread lstavenhagen

Great post! 
I would specifically second the incremental/optional approach to product
features part, myself tho all the rest of Guy's points are totally spot on,
IMO. But in my case, this has been reason #1 I've gone to elecraft products
instead of the competitors.

For me, the greatest value is you can configure your K3 (or K2) with
whatever options you want and not have to pay for options you don't need at
the time or don't want. But you still get the highest performing RX on the
market and all the functionality in the basic rig.

That you couldn't do that always drove me nuts with the Big 3 and even Ten
Tec - it wasn't that I wanted this or that feature in a particular rig, but
it was what I wish it _didn't_ have so that I didn't have to pay for it. All
I wanted was a good basic configuration with good high performance. A CW
filter and I'm ok - add an ant. tuner and built-in keyer and Im really
happy. but there was no such option available from any of these
manufacturers. Either I could get an inferior basic rig, or I could get a
fairly good to very good RX/TX but with loads of other stuff I didn't want -
pretty screens, knobs for every function, the size and weight of a Hummer,
useless features that looked nice and on and on.

I prefer stripped, but good quality radios. The only ones I could find that
met that requirement on the entire market were the elecraft products. My K2,
for example, has the NB module and the internal ant. tuner only. My K3 is
the basic 10W version with only the internal ant. tuner, a 400hz 8 pole
filter and the 1ppm TCXO. That's it on both - the K3 may eventually get the
KPA3 and maybe another filter or two at some point, but that's probably all
I'm going to end up needing for it.

So I'd submit this as another strength of Elecraft's approach - they offer
the option of fewer options, an escape from the featurism of the
competition (a phenomenon we're all too familiar with in the software
industry as well). This may not appeal to that large of a market segment,
but it sure got my business hi hi.

73,
LS
W5QD
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Re: [Elecraft] K3:DSP upgrade error ERR DSE?

2010-05-22 Thread Craig
Hi Lyle

I updated the firmware.  I had to do a MPU load/reset. Anyway all is fine now 
and everything is working fine.

Thanks for your reply  and help.

73
Craig
VK3HE

--- On Sat, 5/22/10, Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com wrote:

 From: Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3:DSP upgrade error ERR DSE?
 To: Craig vk...@yahoo.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 10:16 PM
 
  I just finished upgrading my DSP board with new
 swapped DSP board.
  
  I am getting  the following  error
 message...
 
 Might be due to significantly different versions of MCU and
 DSP code.  See if you can update the firmware in the
 DSP and/or MCU to the latest and see if the error goes
 away.
 
 73,
 
 Lyle KK7P
 


  
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2010-05-22 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   After a day of warm weather we were plunged back into rain and cold.  Highs 
in the low to mid-50s again and lows near freezing.  I let the fire die for two 
days but made sure to split wood for the future.  Now it is burning.  I don't 
think it will snow again but it is a close thing.  Rain and wind have been 
heavy but the plants are greening up nicely.  Spring is very slow here.  In 
another two months or so it may get to the dry season but right now that is 
only a dream.
   Propagation has been less than optimal on twenty meters.  After another 
extended period of quiescence the sun has developed a new spot.  I was 
beginning to wonder after 12 days of quiet whether it has ceased its awakening. 
 Hopefully a few ions will filter through space and impinge upon the Heaviside 
layer.  Forty meters was viable Thursday night nor was it quiet.  Hopefully 
both bands will be better tomorrow.

Please join us tomorrow afternoon and evening.
 
1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
2) NCS help  (as well as QSP/QNP relay help)
 
Sunday 2200z (Sunday 3 PM PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday z (Sunday 5 PM PDT)  7045 kHz
 
   Stay well,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS
 
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[Elecraft] Samelex Power Supplies with a K3

2010-05-22 Thread N1JM

Anyone using a SEC1235 with there K3? Much RF hash?

John N1JM
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Parts for sale

2010-05-22 Thread David Douglass
Still have for sale the following items.Make me an offer, I can ship worldwide 
for $20US
  Top Cover, with built in KAT2 (Internal ATU), KIO2 (RS-232 Serial Interface) 
and KBT2-X (Internal battery Kit, not including battery). All items checked and 
working FB.

  Cheers

  David, VK2NU
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[Elecraft] EMEU 0202 for sale (sold)

2010-05-22 Thread K8ZTT
The EMEU 0202 I listed earlier today has sold.

 

Dick  K8ZTT

 

From: K8ZTT [mailto:k8...@mho.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 5:03 PM
To: 'elecraft...@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: EMEU 0202 for sale

 

If anyone is interested and/or having positive thoughts about  using
LP_Pan and PowerSDR/IF with their K3,  you are going to need a sound card.
As luck would have it,  I have a EMEU 0202 sound card for sale.   In an
effort to start making space for a new amp, I changed to the EMEU 1212 (PCIe
internal card). The 0202 is about six months old,  has had just enough
use to burn in, works great, and has been in a smoke free environment.   I
noted the newprice on Amazon is $100;  and the price for a used one was
$120.   The used price is probably a tad high, so I am willing to make a
great sacrifice and let mine go for $75 (and that includes a USB cable,
packing, handling, shipping, and any other trumped up charges that might
me applicable).

 

With the 0202 in hand, Larry at TelePost will be thrilled to send you a
LP-Pan kit (I recommend the kit) for $185 (including the aforementioned
charges in the paragraph above);  and in short order you will be up and
running with a first class Panadapter.

 

I am good in QRZ.com,  RAC, and most likely any other callsign reference you
might be privy too.   If interested, fire off an email to me at
k8...@yahoo.com or k8...@mho.com

 

Dick  K8ZTT

Franktown, CO



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