[Elecraft] [P3] shipping confirmation

2010-08-04 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Just to let you know I got my shipping confirmation this morning and the P3 
will ship within 7 - 10 business days. Ordered 15-Apr-10.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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[Elecraft] K3 #4536 arrives

2010-08-04 Thread Bill Conkling
Hi,

 

My K3/10  arrived today and I have 10 hours in so far and am  going to bed.
Next step is mouthing the speaker.  My fingers are not as nimble as they
used to be but so far, I've only dropped three items, a screw, and two
washers.  All retrieved.  The resistance checks were ok and the power-up
went well.

 

The only concern now is that phone jack doesn't pull up tight to the front
panel and the washer rattles.

 

Off to bed, get up in the morning and finish up.

 

:Looks real nice so far.

 

...bc   nr4c

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility Installation Problem (somewhat OT)

2010-08-04 Thread Dick Dievendorff
I'm using InnoSetup as well for the K3, P3, W2, and K144XV utilities.  I've 
never heard of this problem before today. I've been using Windows 7 64-bit for 
a few months now, and I know I have a fair number of Windows 7 customers.

Dick


-Original Message-
From: Mike [mailto:n...@nf4l.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:29 PM
To: Dick Dievendorff
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility Installation Problem (somewhat OT)

  Hmm. My directory comes up with RO also, and I can also write there. 
Thanks 
Microsoft...

I use InnoSetup for my installs, and it has a constant that will put writable 
files 
in the proper directory, and I am pretty sure it unpacks the install  (by 
default) 
into temp. No problems with it so far on WIn7.

I'm puzzled.

Mike



On 8/4/2010 8:32 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
> My temp directory is also marked R/O and I can create files in there and 
> setup builds a temp file in there without complaint. I don't quite understand 
> what is going on...
>
> Dick, K6KR
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 4, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Mike  wrote:
>
>>   Dick,
>>
>> I just ran the install on my Win7 Home Premium box with no problems, and I 
>> did not
>> have to run as admin.
>>
>> There is a permission problem.  Try going to
>>
>> "C:\Users\Dick\AppData\Local\Temp\" and see if it's marked "read only" or if 
>> Win7 prohibits you access. Try to copy something there.
>>
>> That should normally be a writable directory. Win7 just REALLY doesn't want 
>> to have updatable files (ie a database or configuration file) under Program 
>> Files.
>>
>> Mike NF4L
>>
>>


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Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories

2010-08-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Be careful.  If you are using an interface that provides a
hardware PTT - serial port RTS, parallel port PTT or a WinKey
based keyer - you will almost certainly have problems with
PTT hanging if you add PTT by "software command."  Use of
both hardware PTT and "software command" has been reported
to result in "stuck PTT" with several transceivers including
the K3 - and with multiple logging packages.  The solution
has always been to use only one type of PTT (generally hardware
which is more reliable).

It appears that more than one transceiver will ignore the
opening of an external PTT line if it happens within a few
milliseconds of a software PTT OFF command but also ignores
the software PTT OFF command if hardware PTT is asserted.

73,

... Joe, W4TV



On 8/4/2010 11:10 PM, Dave Perry N4QS wrote:
> Iain,
>
> Thanks for the tip.  ESC key now works.
>
> Dave, N4QS
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Iain MacDonnell - N6ML"
> To: "Dan Atchison"
> Cc:;
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories
>
>
> I you enable the N1MM Logger COM port option "Radio PTT via command",
> the Escape key will cancel KDVR3 playback. This is covered in my
> notes.
>
>   ~Iain / N6ML
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Dan Atchison  wrote:
>>
>> Yep, I use this exclusive. Works great, lasts a long time. Only issue is
>> that the ESC button does not stop the audio transmission, but I "fix" that
>> problem by re-mapping an unused contesting key to emulate a "REC" button
>> press (the button in the center of the memory keys which stops playback).
>> The re-mapped key I use (on my keyboard) is the tilde (~) key immediately
>> below the ESC key. Took no time to get used to.
>>
>> And, as already mentioned, the audio is outstanding.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan -- N3ND
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bill W4ZV
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Sent: Wed, Aug 4, 2010 6:49 am
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>> The trouble is that you give up all the advantages of N1MM's integration
>>
>>> of logging and message-sending functions, particularly in Enter Sends
>>
>>> Messages mode.
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't think so Pete, although I haven't yet tried this myself:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3
>>
>>
>>
>> Whenever 10m comes back to life I'll probably use my KDVR3 in contests.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73, Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> View this message in context:
>> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3DVR-vs-CW-Memories-tp5371027p5372003.html
>>
>> Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
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[Elecraft] Something for contesters

2010-08-04 Thread Greg
Hey everyone,

A few weeks ago three friends in WA got together and ordered PC boards 
from 5B4AGN for six TXBPF NQN bandpass filter systems with their own 
band decoders and relay drivers.  We then ordered all the parts to build 
them except for enclosures and the RF connectors.  Soon after I got a 
great deal on a couple Array Solutions filter systems.  So I decided not 
to build the TXBPF kits and would rather sell them to someone who could 
use them.

A completed unit from Bob Henderson is $700-$750 USD plus shipping from 
Cypress.  I would like to sell the TXBPF kits as mentioned above for 
$500.  Thats for everything you need for two units less the enclosures 
as mentioned above.

I am listing this here as they are well suited for use with the K3 since 
they accept the BCD band data from the accessory connector.

If you are local I also have an Optibeam OB12/6 yagi that covers 40, 20, 
17, 15, 12, and 10 meters for sale that is only about 3-4 years old for 
$2000.

If anyone is interested let me know.  After a bit if I don't get any 
interest I'll post them on QTH or eHam.

http://5b4agn.net/

Thanks and 73
Greg
AB7R

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility Installation Problem (somewhat OT)

2010-08-04 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I believe that "trusted installer" can write in RO directories.  Also
there are setting in the UAC (User Access Control) that modify these
behaviors.

73, Guy.

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Mike  wrote:
>  Hmm. My directory comes up with RO also, and I can also write there. 
> Thanks
> Microsoft...
>
> I use InnoSetup for my installs, and it has a constant that will put writable 
> files
> in the proper directory, and I am pretty sure it unpacks the install  (by 
> default)
> into temp. No problems with it so far on WIn7.
>
> I'm puzzled.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On 8/4/2010 8:32 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
>> My temp directory is also marked R/O and I can create files in there and 
>> setup builds a temp file in there without complaint. I don't quite 
>> understand what is going on...
>>
>> Dick, K6KR
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Mike  wrote:
>>
>>>   Dick,
>>>
>>> I just ran the install on my Win7 Home Premium box with no problems, and I 
>>> did not
>>> have to run as admin.
>>>
>>> There is a permission problem.  Try going to
>>>
>>> "C:\Users\Dick\AppData\Local\Temp\" and see if it's marked "read only" or 
>>> if Win7 prohibits you access. Try to copy something there.
>>>
>>> That should normally be a writable directory. Win7 just REALLY doesn't want 
>>> to have updatable files (ie a database or configuration file) under Program 
>>> Files.
>>>
>>> Mike NF4L
>>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility Installation Problem (somewhat OT)

2010-08-04 Thread Mike
  Hmm. My directory comes up with RO also, and I can also write there. 
Thanks 
Microsoft...

I use InnoSetup for my installs, and it has a constant that will put writable 
files 
in the proper directory, and I am pretty sure it unpacks the install  (by 
default) 
into temp. No problems with it so far on WIn7.

I'm puzzled.

Mike



On 8/4/2010 8:32 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
> My temp directory is also marked R/O and I can create files in there and 
> setup builds a temp file in there without complaint. I don't quite understand 
> what is going on...
>
> Dick, K6KR
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 4, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Mike  wrote:
>
>>   Dick,
>>
>> I just ran the install on my Win7 Home Premium box with no problems, and I 
>> did not
>> have to run as admin.
>>
>> There is a permission problem.  Try going to
>>
>> "C:\Users\Dick\AppData\Local\Temp\" and see if it's marked "read only" or if 
>> Win7 prohibits you access. Try to copy something there.
>>
>> That should normally be a writable directory. Win7 just REALLY doesn't want 
>> to have updatable files (ie a database or configuration file) under Program 
>> Files.
>>
>> Mike NF4L
>>
>>


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Mic gain/noise on xmit

2010-08-04 Thread Mike
  I wasn't sure the mic was the source of the noise, but after setting it to L, 
on 
air trial indicates that the issue is fully resolved.

Thanks again.

Mike

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Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories

2010-08-04 Thread Dave Perry N4QS
Iain,

Thanks for the tip.  ESC key now works.

Dave, N4QS

- Original Message - 
From: "Iain MacDonnell - N6ML" 
To: "Dan Atchison" 
Cc: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories


I you enable the N1MM Logger COM port option "Radio PTT via command",
the Escape key will cancel KDVR3 playback. This is covered in my
notes.

 ~Iain / N6ML



On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Dan Atchison  wrote:
>
> Yep, I use this exclusive. Works great, lasts a long time. Only issue is 
> that the ESC button does not stop the audio transmission, but I "fix" that 
> problem by re-mapping an unused contesting key to emulate a "REC" button 
> press (the button in the center of the memory keys which stops playback). 
> The re-mapped key I use (on my keyboard) is the tilde (~) key immediately 
> below the ESC key. Took no time to get used to.
>
> And, as already mentioned, the audio is outstanding.
>
>
>
> Dan -- N3ND
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill W4ZV 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Wed, Aug 4, 2010 6:49 am
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
>
>>
>
>> The trouble is that you give up all the advantages of N1MM's integration
>
>> of logging and message-sending functions, particularly in Enter Sends
>
>> Messages mode.
>
>>
>
>
>
> I don't think so Pete, although I haven't yet tried this myself:
>
>
>
> http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3
>
>
>
> Whenever 10m comes back to life I'll probably use my KDVR3 in contests.
>
>
>
> 73, Bill
>
>
>
> --
>
> View this message in context: 
> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3DVR-vs-CW-Memories-tp5371027p5372003.html
>
> Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories

2010-08-04 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML
I you enable the N1MM Logger COM port option "Radio PTT via command",
the Escape key will cancel KDVR3 playback. This is covered in my
notes.

 ~Iain / N6ML



On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Dan Atchison  wrote:
>
>  Yep, I use this exclusive.  Works great, lasts a long time.  Only issue is 
> that the ESC button does not stop the audio transmission, but I "fix" that 
> problem by re-mapping an unused contesting key to emulate a "REC" button 
> press (the button in the center of the memory keys which stops playback).  
> The re-mapped key I use (on my keyboard) is the tilde (~) key immediately 
> below the ESC key.  Took no time to get used to.
>
> And, as already mentioned, the audio is outstanding.
>
>
>
> Dan -- N3ND
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill W4ZV 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Wed, Aug 4, 2010 6:49 am
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
>
>>
>
>> The trouble is that you give up all the advantages of N1MM's integration
>
>> of logging and message-sending functions, particularly in Enter Sends
>
>> Messages mode.
>
>>
>
>
>
> I don't think so Pete, although I haven't yet tried this myself:
>
>
>
> http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3
>
>
>
> Whenever 10m comes back to life I'll probably use my KDVR3 in contests.
>
>
>
> 73,  Bill
>
>
>
> --
>
> View this message in context: 
> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3DVR-vs-CW-Memories-tp5371027p5372003.html
>
> Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC and headphone question

2010-08-04 Thread James Sarte
Hi Lyle,

Yes, that is exactly the case.

CONFIG:SPKR+PH is set to OFF.

When inserting headphones, speaker output is disabled as is expected.  When
deactivating AGC, then speaker turns back on.

Very strange.  Will contact support in the AM.

Mni tnx es vy 73 de James K2QI

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Lyle Johnson  wrote:

>  Hello James!
>
>  Thanks for the reply.  I was incorrect; the headphones don't cut out when
> AGC is turned off like I initially wrote, BUT, the speaker still does come
> on even though headphones are plugged in.  I thought that was rather odd.
>
>  So you think its a hardware issue?  I'll give support a buzz in the
> morning, but would also like to hear your thoughts if you have the time.
>
>
> The DSP controls the speaker coming on and off.  The state of AGC should
> have no bearing at all on the speaker being on or off.  If the
> CONFIG:SPKR+PH is ON, then off course the speaker won;t mute with the
> insertion of the headphones, but I understand from your message that if AGC
> is ON, the speaker is muted when the headphones are inserted.  It is only in
> the case of AGC OFF that inserting the headphones does not mute the speaker.
>
> I just checked here in CW and SSB and AGC ON|OFF has no effect on the state
> of the speaker.
>
> I don't know that it is a hardware problem, but perhaps support has heard
> of this before and knows the cure.
>
> 73,
>
> Lyle KK7P
>
>
>  73 de James
>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Lyle Johnson  wrote:
>
>>  Hello James!
>>
>>
>>  I turned off AGC today while listening through headphones, and noticed
>>> that it cut the output of the headphones but brought the internal speaker
>>> back on line.  This was the case even with the volume turned all the way
>>> down.  Just wondering if this is normal?
>>>
>>
>>  No, it isn't.  SPKR is not related to AGC.  There is an AF limiter that
>> cuts in if AGC is off, this is user adjustable, see the manual or release
>> notes for details.
>>
>> Regarding the speaker issue, please contact support.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Lyle KK7P
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Arrives

2010-08-04 Thread Phil Hystad
Wow, 90 minutes.  Well, if I take a lot longer then that I may not report my 
time. :-)

Mine is SN #0030.


On Aug 4, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

> 
> Mine arrived today as well (#0037).  It took significantly less
> than 90 minutes from opening the box to power up with the K3 even
> though I took my time and had to stop at one point and take some
> pictures of a finish issue (bad powder coat on the tilt bail).
> 
> A suggestion for anyone building one of these early units ...
> expect to update the firmware (there is already one bug fix)
> and expect to do the reference calibration even though the manual
> indicates it should not be necessary.
> 
> 73,
> 
>... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 8/4/2010 8:10 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> My new P3 arrived today.  Now, time to put it together.  I think that
>> time will be Saturday.  I will time my time.
>> 
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Frequency Memory Editor

2010-08-04 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Thanks, Dave. I'm hoping people will share their freq memory files. Most of 
mine are big and have QSO Party frees. 

73 de Dick, K6KR


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 4, 2010, at 7:01 PM, "Dave Perry N4QS"  wrote:

> Thanks Dick!  The XP version works great here!  It provides an easy way to 
> backup all memories to a file.  I can see the potential for all sorts of 
> applications.  How about different memory files for different contests, 
> operating modes or locations?
> 
> Very nice addition.  Now just waiting for my P3 to ship!
> 
> Dave, N4QS
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Fleming" 
> To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Frequency Memory Editor
> 
> 
> Awesome app, Dick! Working solid here on my iMac on VMWare Fusion.
> 
> Looks great! Congrats.
> 
> David, W4SMT
> 
> --- On Wed, 8/4/10, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft  
> wrote:
> 
>> The K3 Frequency Memory Editor has
>> now been formally released. See:
>> 
>> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/FreqMemEdit/K3_Freq_Mem_Editor.htm
>> 
>> Thanks to Dick Dievendorff for all his hard work!
>> 
>> 73,
>> Eric WA6HHQ
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Frequency Memory Editor

2010-08-04 Thread Dave Perry N4QS
Thanks Dick!  The XP version works great here!  It provides an easy way to 
backup all memories to a file.  I can see the potential for all sorts of 
applications.  How about different memory files for different contests, 
operating modes or locations?

Very nice addition.  Now just waiting for my P3 to ship!

Dave, N4QS


- Original Message - 
From: "David Fleming" 
To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Frequency Memory Editor


Awesome app, Dick! Working solid here on my iMac on VMWare Fusion.

Looks great! Congrats.

David, W4SMT

--- On Wed, 8/4/10, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft  
wrote:

> The K3 Frequency Memory Editor has
> now been formally released. See:
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/FreqMemEdit/K3_Freq_Mem_Editor.htm
>
> Thanks to Dick Dievendorff for all his hard work!
>
> 73,
> Eric WA6HHQ


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Frequency Memory Editor

2010-08-04 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Thanks, David. I have some speedups in the next rev so we aren't done!

73 de Dick, K6KR


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On Aug 4, 2010, at 6:36 PM, David Fleming  wrote:

> Awesome app, Dick! Working solid here on my iMac on VMWare Fusion.
> 
> Looks great! Congrats.
> 
> David, W4SMT
> 
> --- On Wed, 8/4/10, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft  wrote:
> 
>> The K3 Frequency Memory Editor has
>> now been formally released. See:
>> 
>> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/FreqMemEdit/K3_Freq_Mem_Editor.htm
>> 
>> Thanks to Dick Dievendorff for all his hard work!
>> 
>> 73,
>> Eric  WA6HHQ
> 
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[Elecraft] P3 Confirmation

2010-08-04 Thread Don Cunningham
Well, I finally got my email to confirm shipping details for my P3 ordered on 
the morning of 4-15-2010.  The time was 8:29 pm CDT, and that means that those 
folks are working overtime to help us get our "toys" ASAP.  They never cease to 
amaze me
73,
Don, WB5HAK
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Frequency Memory Editor

2010-08-04 Thread David Fleming
Awesome app, Dick! Working solid here on my iMac on VMWare Fusion.

Looks great! Congrats.

David, W4SMT

--- On Wed, 8/4/10, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft  wrote:

> The K3 Frequency Memory Editor has
> now been formally released. See:
> 
> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/FreqMemEdit/K3_Freq_Mem_Editor.htm
> 
> Thanks to Dick Dievendorff for all his hard work!
> 
> 73,
> Eric  WA6HHQ
 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Mic gain/noise on xmit

2010-08-04 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 15:54:42 -0700, Lyle Johnson wrote:


>MON is just Tx.  For my CM500 I have RP.L BIAS for mic setting, gain is 
>10.  FOr my voice, CMP14 is about right.

The CM500 IS hot. I've never noticed, or had complaints, of any background 
noise. I also run it into the rear panel. Make sure to set the mic gain range 
to low. 

73, Jim K9YC



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Frequency Memory Editor

2010-08-04 Thread Wayne Burdick
This is a very cool tool that has been requested by many K3 owners.  
Please give it a try.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Aug 4, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

> The K3 Frequency Memory Editor has now been formally released. See:
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/FreqMemEdit/K3_Freq_Mem_Editor.htm
>
> Thanks to Dick Dievendorff for all his hard work!
>
> 73,
> Eric  WA6HHQ
>
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Arrives

2010-08-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Mine arrived today as well (#0037).  It took significantly less
than 90 minutes from opening the box to power up with the K3 even
though I took my time and had to stop at one point and take some
pictures of a finish issue (bad powder coat on the tilt bail).

A suggestion for anyone building one of these early units ...
expect to update the firmware (there is already one bug fix)
and expect to do the reference calibration even though the manual
indicates it should not be necessary.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


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> My new P3 arrived today.  Now, time to put it together.  I think that
 > time will be Saturday.  I will time my time.
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Frequency Memory Editor

2010-08-04 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
Thanks to all involved!


Dick - KA5KKT

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[Elecraft] K3 Frequency Memory Editor

2010-08-04 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
The K3 Frequency Memory Editor has now been formally released. See:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/FreqMemEdit/K3_Freq_Mem_Editor.htm

Thanks to Dick Dievendorff for all his hard work!

73,
Eric  WA6HHQ


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility Installation Problem (somewhat OT)

2010-08-04 Thread Dick Dievendorff
My temp directory is also marked R/O and I can create files in there and setup 
builds a temp file in there without complaint. I don't quite understand what is 
going on...

Dick, K6KR


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On Aug 4, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Mike  wrote:

>  Dick,
> 
> I just ran the install on my Win7 Home Premium box with no problems, and I 
> did not 
> have to run as admin.
> 
> There is a permission problem.  Try going to
> 
> "C:\Users\Dick\AppData\Local\Temp\" and see if it's marked "read only" or if 
> Win7 prohibits you access. Try to copy something there.
> 
> That should normally be a writable directory. Win7 just REALLY doesn't want 
> to have updatable files (ie a database or configuration file) under Program 
> Files.
> 
> Mike NF4L
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/4/2010 2:33 PM, Edward Dickinson, III wrote:
>> Hi Doug, and thanks.
>> 
>> Running the Setup program as Administrator does not help.
>> 
>> 
>> 73,
>> Dick - KA5KKT
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> The solution for this is to right-click on the program and select "Run
>> as administrator".  Windows 7 has tighter security than good old Windows
>> XP.  The OS won't let just anybody create directories.  Almost anytime
>> you run an install program it is wise to run it as Administrator.
>> 
>> 73, Doug -- KØDXV
>> 
>> On 8/4/2010 11:45 AM, Edward Dickinson, III wrote:
>>> Yesterday, I downloaded the new version of the K3 Utility program.  In
>>> trying to install it on my Windows 7 system, I get a  message
>>> 
>>>Setup was unable to create the directory
>>>"C:\Users\Dick\AppData\Local\Temp\is-6E...tmp."
>>> 
>>>Error 5: Access is denied.
>>> 
>>> The final (.tmp) file name varies each time I attempt it.  The message
>> comes
>>> up as soon as the setup program is run.
>>> 
>>> I've not had this problem before with the K3 Utility Setup and suspect it
>> is
>>> related to settings in Windows 7...which I haven't changed in a while.
>>> Attempting to execute older versions of the K3 Utility Setup currently
>> usher
>>> forth the same error message.
>>> 
>>> Feel free to contact me off list with comments.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Dick -KA5KKT
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[Elecraft] Test reflector email change - NT

2010-08-04 Thread James Sarte
Test

-- 
73 de James K2QI
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility Installation Problem (somewhat OT)

2010-08-04 Thread Mike
  Dick,

I just ran the install on my Win7 Home Premium box with no problems, and I did 
not 
have to run as admin.

There is a permission problem.  Try going to

"C:\Users\Dick\AppData\Local\Temp\" and see if it's marked "read only" or if 
Win7 prohibits you access. Try to copy something there.

That should normally be a writable directory. Win7 just REALLY doesn't want to 
have updatable files (ie a database or configuration file) under Program Files.

Mike NF4L



On 8/4/2010 2:33 PM, Edward Dickinson, III wrote:
> Hi Doug, and thanks.
>
> Running the Setup program as Administrator does not help.
>
>
> 73,
> Dick - KA5KKT
> 
> --
>
> The solution for this is to right-click on the program and select "Run
> as administrator".  Windows 7 has tighter security than good old Windows
> XP.  The OS won't let just anybody create directories.  Almost anytime
> you run an install program it is wise to run it as Administrator.
>
> 73, Doug -- KØDXV
>
> On 8/4/2010 11:45 AM, Edward Dickinson, III wrote:
>> Yesterday, I downloaded the new version of the K3 Utility program.  In
>> trying to install it on my Windows 7 system, I get a  message
>>
>>  Setup was unable to create the directory
>>  "C:\Users\Dick\AppData\Local\Temp\is-6E...tmp."
>>
>>  Error 5: Access is denied.
>>
>> The final (.tmp) file name varies each time I attempt it.  The message
> comes
>> up as soon as the setup program is run.
>>
>> I've not had this problem before with the K3 Utility Setup and suspect it
> is
>> related to settings in Windows 7...which I haven't changed in a while.
>> Attempting to execute older versions of the K3 Utility Setup currently
> usher
>> forth the same error message.
>>
>> Feel free to contact me off list with comments.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>> Dick -KA5KKT
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Re: [Elecraft] 10 W power out with KPA3 Normal

2010-08-04 Thread Brett Howard
Rerun your 5W calibration.
Then set your K3's power less than 12 watts.
Set the K3 for 160 meters.
Now go into Config and find TXGN LP
Write down the value.
Now press band up.
Write down the value
Lather rinse repeat (get the gain value for all of the bands in your K3)

Then reply to this message (including on the reflector) with the
values that you get...

~Brett (N7MG)

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:05 AM, w0uo  wrote:
> My K-3 is only putting out 10 watts.  KPA3 showed in Bypass. I placed it
> normal, still only 10 watts out.  The circuit breaker appears to be in, that
> is it does not appear to change positions when I push it. Suggestions?
>
>
>
> Jim
>
> W0UO
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[Elecraft] [K3] AGC and headphone question

2010-08-04 Thread James Sarte

I turned off AGC today while listening through headphones, and noticed that it 
cut the output of the headphones but brought the internal speaker back on line. 
 This was the case even with the volume turned all the way down.  Just 
wondering if this is normal?

73 de James K2QI
  
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[Elecraft] P3 Arrives

2010-08-04 Thread Phil Hystad
My new P3 arrived today.  Now, time to put it together.  I think that time will 
be Saturday.  I will time my time.

73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Mic gain/noise on xmit

2010-08-04 Thread Mike
  Thanks Lyle, Don and Gary.

I did have MIC SEL set to high. I set it to L and with the mic gain at 10, I 
get the 
correct bars. I'll check later when I can get one of the critical locals on to 
see if 
that fixed the XMIT noise, which is what I really want to solve.

Mike

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Mic gain/noise on xmit

2010-08-04 Thread Gary Gregory
Don and all,

I also use the CM-500 and run Bias L

Mic @ 19
Comp @ 15

I do have a soft voice and do speak softly as well as I am in a quiet
operating position. (Under the awning of my Motorhome) until the Cockatoos
start to scream.

Gary

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Mike,
>
> That sounds like you have your MIC SEL menu set for "H" - try tapping
> the "1" button to change it to "L" so you can set your mic gain higher
> (and gives you more range).  I don't know if it will help your noise,
> but it would explain the difference between your setting of 9 and the
> other fellow's 30.  BTW, mine is set at 38 for the Elecraft MD2.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> Mike wrote:
> >   This afternoon, chatting with a couple of locals on 6M, they mentioned
> I had some
> > noise on my signal. One said it sounded like a radio in the background,
> the other
> > characterized it as a loud hiss, with some intermittent high pitched
> blurbs.
> >
> > I disconnected the computer(RS232 & audio IO) and external speakers, and
> the noise
> > was still there. I turned on the monitor and could hear it.
> >
> > I'm using a Yamaha CM500 connected to the back panel. One of the guys was
> using a K3,
> > and he commented that he was using the Elecraft hand mic, and his mic
> gain was set at
> > 30. Mine was set at 9, which gave me 8/9 bars on the ALC meter(ops).
> A gain
> > setting of 1 gives me the desired 5 bars. Now the monitor sounds like
> mild
> > atmospheric noise, with a slight static burst every now and then.
> >
> > Is the CM500 that hot? Where else could the noise be coming from? Does
> the monitor
> > pick up from received signals, or just the mic?
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 communcation issue solved!

2010-08-04 Thread Edward R. Cole
Occam's Razor!  Haven't heard that on this list before.  Sounds like 
an adherent of SETI?

Regarding the simplest solution is often true, reminds me of the 
advice of an old mentor back 30-years ago advising me not to be 
looking for complicated causes for electronic malfunctions, ... "the 
solution is usually very simple".

Regarding non-seated computer cables, that issue "bit" me recently 
when I could not turn on a remote piece of equipment.  The control 
wire was on a DB-25 plug that had slipped a little so not fully 
seated.  I am now looking for those little hex-nut couplers that 
provide for securing the plug to the receptacle on sub-D computer 
connectors.  I wish they were supplied when one bought the connectors.

My SO2R control panel uses three Sub-D9M and two Sub-D25M panel 
receptacles for control line connections (and ten RCA-phono 
connectors).  One 9M goes to the computer Serial port and two go to 
each radio (FT-847 & K3).  The two 25M are for control lines to other 
equipment, towers and antenna switches.  They terminate on barrier 
terminal strips for interconnection to control lines.

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 communcation issue solved!
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I often find the true solution is the simplest.  Occam's Razor

k4ia

In a message dated 8/3/2010 3:47:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
alderm...@windstream.net writes:
Thank you to those who have been trying to  help me to get my new K3 to talk
with N1MM. That issue is now solved.
It  wasn't until I thought I had checked and rechecked all configurations,
both  in N1MM and in the K3, that I finally became convinced it was not  a
software/firmware issue. In checking my serial cables, I found the  DB-9
connector to the K3 had slipped partially out of the K3 connector. I  simply
reseated that connector (AND used a screw driver to fasten it to the  K3 and
the K3 immediately started communicating with N1MM again.
I do  appreciate everyone offering me very well thought out suggestions to
solve  this problem.
Thank you all again
73,
Tom -  W4BQF



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Mic gain/noise on xmit

2010-08-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike,

That sounds like you have your MIC SEL menu set for "H" - try tapping 
the "1" button to change it to "L" so you can set your mic gain higher 
(and gives you more range).  I don't know if it will help your noise, 
but it would explain the difference between your setting of 9 and the 
other fellow's 30.  BTW, mine is set at 38 for the Elecraft MD2.

73,
Don W3FPR

Mike wrote:
>   This afternoon, chatting with a couple of locals on 6M, they mentioned I 
> had some 
> noise on my signal. One said it sounded like a radio in the background, the 
> other 
> characterized it as a loud hiss, with some intermittent high pitched blurbs.
>
> I disconnected the computer(RS232 & audio IO) and external speakers, and the 
> noise 
> was still there. I turned on the monitor and could hear it.
>
> I'm using a Yamaha CM500 connected to the back panel. One of the guys was 
> using a K3, 
> and he commented that he was using the Elecraft hand mic, and his mic gain 
> was set at 
> 30. Mine was set at 9, which gave me 8/9 bars on the ALC meter(ops). A 
> gain 
> setting of 1 gives me the desired 5 bars. Now the monitor sounds like mild 
> atmospheric noise, with a slight static burst every now and then.
>
> Is the CM500 that hot? Where else could the noise be coming from? Does the 
> monitor 
> pick up from received signals, or just the mic?
>
>
>   
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Mic gain/noise on xmit

2010-08-04 Thread Lyle Johnson

> Is the CM500 that hot? Where else could the noise be coming from? Does the 
> monitor
> pick up from received signals, or just the mic?

MON is just Tx.  For my CM500 I have RP.L BIAS for mic setting, gain is 
10.  FOr my voice, CMP14 is about right.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 4.05

2010-08-04 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
>From a post of his, Wayne is working on adding a "few hundred Hertz of
RIT" to the CW QRQ mode.  Availability unknown of course.

73, Guy.

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Steve Ellington  wrote:
> Tom:
>
> YepThat's the way it's supposed to work or at least until they make more
> refinements. When in QRQ mode, the Shift knob doesn't change anything.
> I'm still waiting for RIT to start working when in QRQ mode.
> Steve
> N4LQ
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tommy Alderman" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:29 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 4.05
>
>
>> While I have found that QRQ works excellent with both 4.03 and 4.05
>> firmware
>> versions, I think I have a new problem with 4.05. I have programmed QRQ
>> ON/OFF into the PF1 button. In addition to the fully explained
>> RIT/XIT/Split
>> issues, now when I execute QRQ ON, my HIGH CUT/WIDTH buttons switch from
>> LO/HI to SHIFT/WIDTH. When I tap the SHIFT knob, FC *0.58 is displayed in
>> the VFO B area. When I tap the WIDTH knob, BW  0.40 displays in the VFO B
>> area. I can no longer get either of these knobs to revert back to LO/HI.
>> Once I turn QRQ to OFF, those buttons go back to 'normal' operation.
>> NOTE: Having just received my K3 (s/n 4521) on Monday 8/2, it is entirely
>> possible I have something else set incorrect or have not read about this
>> issue with 4.xx firmware.
>> Tom - W4BQF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] software

2010-08-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
I do wish people would not do this (put a link in an email with no 
explanation other than perhaps something cryptic in the subject line).
As a routine (part of my safe computing practice), I do not open links 
unless the content is briefly described in the email.

73,
Don W3FPR

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[Elecraft] [K3} Mic gain/noise on xmit

2010-08-04 Thread Mike
  This afternoon, chatting with a couple of locals on 6M, they mentioned I had 
some 
noise on my signal. One said it sounded like a radio in the background, the 
other 
characterized it as a loud hiss, with some intermittent high pitched blurbs.

I disconnected the computer(RS232 & audio IO) and external speakers, and the 
noise 
was still there. I turned on the monitor and could hear it.

I'm using a Yamaha CM500 connected to the back panel. One of the guys was using 
a K3, 
and he commented that he was using the Elecraft hand mic, and his mic gain was 
set at 
30. Mine was set at 9, which gave me 8/9 bars on the ALC meter(ops). A gain 
setting of 1 gives me the desired 5 bars. Now the monitor sounds like mild 
atmospheric noise, with a slight static burst every now and then.

Is the CM500 that hot? Where else could the noise be coming from? Does the 
monitor 
pick up from received signals, or just the mic?

73, Mike NF4L
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[Elecraft] software

2010-08-04 Thread lu1xs



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[Elecraft] 5AH gell cells

2010-08-04 Thread n7bv
GD,

Would you please contact me regarding ordering subject batteries.

Thanks, Chuck N7BV
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[Elecraft] K3:KPA3 100 w amp

2010-08-04 Thread Roy Morris
Early KPA3s had some resistors mounted on the PCB so they would "float" in the 
air probably for cooling purposes.  These "floating" resistors were changed out 
and no longer float on the later PCBs.  There were some other subtle changes on 
the later PCBs.  I have K3s with both the early and revised KPA3 boards and 
have not noticed any difference in the performance of these amps.  Roy Morris  
W4WFB  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility version 1.3.7.26 released for generalavailability

2010-08-04 Thread Val
Dick,

Do you keep a wish list for future releases? I found that the CW memories 
editor is too "rough" for me. The half space is not sufficient to make my 
call sign to sound perfectly. Could you add quarter space, please.

73, Val LZ1VB

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility Installation Problem (somewhat OT)

2010-08-04 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
Hi Doug, and thanks.

Running the Setup program as Administrator does not help.


73,
Dick - KA5KKT

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The solution for this is to right-click on the program and select "Run 
as administrator".  Windows 7 has tighter security than good old Windows 
XP.  The OS won't let just anybody create directories.  Almost anytime 
you run an install program it is wise to run it as Administrator.

73, Doug -- KØDXV

On 8/4/2010 11:45 AM, Edward Dickinson, III wrote:
> Yesterday, I downloaded the new version of the K3 Utility program.  In
> trying to install it on my Windows 7 system, I get a  message
>
>   Setup was unable to create the directory
>   "C:\Users\Dick\AppData\Local\Temp\is-6E...tmp."
>
>   Error 5: Access is denied.
>
> The final (.tmp) file name varies each time I attempt it.  The message
comes
> up as soon as the setup program is run.
>
> I've not had this problem before with the K3 Utility Setup and suspect it
is
> related to settings in Windows 7...which I haven't changed in a while.
> Attempting to execute older versions of the K3 Utility Setup currently
usher
> forth the same error message.
>
> Feel free to contact me off list with comments.
>
>
> 73,
> Dick -KA5KKT

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility Installation Problem (somewhat OT)

2010-08-04 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Only the K3 setup program (the installer) needs to be run as an
administrator. Like many installation programs, the program files are
installed in the Program Files folder, which is shared across all users.

Once the K3 Utility is installed, administrative privileges are NOT required
to use the K3 Utility program.

Dick, K6KR



-Original Message-

>  The solution for this is to right-click on the program and select "Run 
as administrator".  Windows 7 has tighter security than good old Windows 
XP.  The OS won't let just anybody create directories.  Almost anytime 
you run an install program it is wise to run it as Administrator.

On 8/4/2010 11:45 AM, Edward Dickinson, III wrote:
> Yesterday, I downloaded the new version of the K3 Utility program.  In
> trying to install it on my Windows 7 system, I get a  message
>
>   Setup was unable to create the directory
>   "C:\Users\Dick\AppData\Local\Temp\is-6E...tmp."
>
>   Error 5: Access is denied.
>


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility Installation Problem (somewhat OT)

2010-08-04 Thread Doug Person
  The solution for this is to right-click on the program and select "Run 
as administrator".  Windows 7 has tighter security than good old Windows 
XP.  The OS won't let just anybody create directories.  Almost anytime 
you run an install program it is wise to run it as Administrator.

73, Doug -- KØDXV

On 8/4/2010 11:45 AM, Edward Dickinson, III wrote:
> Yesterday, I downloaded the new version of the K3 Utility program.  In
> trying to install it on my Windows 7 system, I get a  message
>
>   Setup was unable to create the directory
>   "C:\Users\Dick\AppData\Local\Temp\is-6E...tmp."
>
>   Error 5: Access is denied.
>
> The final (.tmp) file name varies each time I attempt it.  The message comes
> up as soon as the setup program is run.
>
> I've not had this problem before with the K3 Utility Setup and suspect it is
> related to settings in Windows 7...which I haven't changed in a while.
> Attempting to execute older versions of the K3 Utility Setup currently usher
> forth the same error message.
>
> Feel free to contact me off list with comments.
>
>
> 73,
> Dick -KA5KKT
>
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[Elecraft] K3 Utility Installation Problem (somewhat OT)

2010-08-04 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
Yesterday, I downloaded the new version of the K3 Utility program.  In
trying to install it on my Windows 7 system, I get a  message

Setup was unable to create the directory
"C:\Users\Dick\AppData\Local\Temp\is-6E...tmp."

Error 5: Access is denied.

The final (.tmp) file name varies each time I attempt it.  The message comes
up as soon as the setup program is run.

I've not had this problem before with the K3 Utility Setup and suspect it is
related to settings in Windows 7...which I haven't changed in a while.
Attempting to execute older versions of the K3 Utility Setup currently usher
forth the same error message.

Feel free to contact me off list with comments.


73,
Dick -KA5KKT

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 4.05

2010-08-04 Thread Steve Ellington
Tom:

YepThat's the way it's supposed to work or at least until they make more 
refinements. When in QRQ mode, the Shift knob doesn't change anything.
I'm still waiting for RIT to start working when in QRQ mode.
Steve
N4LQ
- Original Message - 
From: "Tommy Alderman" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:29 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 4.05


> While I have found that QRQ works excellent with both 4.03 and 4.05 
> firmware
> versions, I think I have a new problem with 4.05. I have programmed QRQ
> ON/OFF into the PF1 button. In addition to the fully explained 
> RIT/XIT/Split
> issues, now when I execute QRQ ON, my HIGH CUT/WIDTH buttons switch from
> LO/HI to SHIFT/WIDTH. When I tap the SHIFT knob, FC *0.58 is displayed in
> the VFO B area. When I tap the WIDTH knob, BW  0.40 displays in the VFO B
> area. I can no longer get either of these knobs to revert back to LO/HI.
> Once I turn QRQ to OFF, those buttons go back to 'normal' operation.
> NOTE: Having just received my K3 (s/n 4521) on Monday 8/2, it is entirely
> possible I have something else set incorrect or have not read about this
> issue with 4.xx firmware.
> Tom - W4BQF
>
>
>
>





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[Elecraft] 10 W power out with KPA3 Normal

2010-08-04 Thread w0uo
My K-3 is only putting out 10 watts.  KPA3 showed in Bypass. I placed it
normal, still only 10 watts out.  The circuit breaker appears to be in, that
is it does not appear to change positions when I push it. Suggestions?

 

Jim

W0UO

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility version 1.3.7.26 released for general availability

2010-08-04 Thread Rick Prather
Great,  thanks for your work on the Mac versions.

Rick
K6LE

On 8/4/2010, at 9:33 , David Fleming wrote:

> Rick,
> 
> Barring any unforeseen problems, I will be releasing the P3 Utility for 
> Mac/Linux soon (within the next week or two). I will be releasing an updated 
> version of the K3 Utility around the same time.
> 
> David, W4SMT
> 
> --- On Wed, 8/4/10, Rick Prather  wrote:
> 
>> Dick,
>> 
>> Since the Mac version hasn't been updated in a while would
>> you recommend that us Mac users use the Win version
>> instead?
>> 
>> Rick
>> K6LE
> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility version 1.3.7.26 released for general availability

2010-08-04 Thread David Fleming
Rick,

Barring any unforeseen problems, I will be releasing the P3 Utility for 
Mac/Linux soon (within the next week or two). I will be releasing an updated 
version of the K3 Utility around the same time.

David, W4SMT

--- On Wed, 8/4/10, Rick Prather  wrote:

> Dick,
> 
> Since the Mac version hasn't been updated in a while would
> you recommend that us Mac users use the Win version
> instead?
> 
> Rick
> K6LE


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[Elecraft] K3 Firmware 4.05

2010-08-04 Thread Tommy Alderman
While I have found that QRQ works excellent with both 4.03 and 4.05 firmware
versions, I think I have a new problem with 4.05. I have programmed QRQ
ON/OFF into the PF1 button. In addition to the fully explained RIT/XIT/Split
issues, now when I execute QRQ ON, my HIGH CUT/WIDTH buttons switch from
LO/HI to SHIFT/WIDTH. When I tap the SHIFT knob, FC *0.58 is displayed in
the VFO B area. When I tap the WIDTH knob, BW  0.40 displays in the VFO B
area. I can no longer get either of these knobs to revert back to LO/HI.
Once I turn QRQ to OFF, those buttons go back to 'normal' operation.
NOTE: Having just received my K3 (s/n 4521) on Monday 8/2, it is entirely
possible I have something else set incorrect or have not read about this
issue with 4.xx firmware.
Tom - W4BQF



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Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories

2010-08-04 Thread Luis V. Romero
I'm with Pete:

4 messages is a bit constricting (I have the same problem with WinTest).
Also, in a Multi op situation, when the new operator logs on with Control-O,
and if you have them pre-record their messages like I do, each operator's
personal messages in his/her own voice are recalled by N1MMLogger.  Cant do
that with the KDVR.

I use a microHAM microKEYER 2 and only record through its built in sound
card.  Is it just me or am I the only one who cant discern any difference
whatsoever in my "canned" messages from the computer to my live mic?

If you use a *DIFFERENT* mic and a *DIFFERENT* audio path, there *WILL* be
differences in audio. 

If you record using a different mic and audio "path", or add "effects" like
compression or equalization in a audio program, and then play the file in
Logger, you *WILL NOT* sound the same as your air mic.

The key is to use your "air" microphone and you "air path" for recordings.
This way, you will sound the same every time.

The KDVR is nice, but in a contesting environment, I have absolutely no use
for it.  Same for the built in keyer. Glad Elecraft made it an option so
that I can spend the money on something else I can actually use.

-lu-w4lt-


--


Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 07:58:43 -0400
From: Pete Smith 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories
To: Bill W4ZV 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <4c5955f3.1070...@contesting.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I've seen that, and can see how it would work.  However, with only 4 
memories, you don't get all the potential variation and 
situation-specific messages that N1MM provides, nor the possibility of 
voicing callsigns or serial numbers (which I don't advocate, by the way).

For example, N1MM gives you 12 messages when running and another 12 for 
S&P, so you can have multiple-length CQs and different queries like 
"Sorry, I didn't get your section" and "Your serial number again, 
please."  Another advantage for phone contesters is that you can 
re-record your Run CQ message on the fly - extremely useful when you're 
running split on 40 and 80, and need to change your listening frequency 
(so I'm told - I'm a CW op myself, almost exclusively)

73, Pete N4ZR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories

2010-08-04 Thread Stan Gibbs


KK7P wrote:
> 
> 
>> Do you mean that the KDVR3 can record audio in CW mode? How?
> It doesn't use the M1..M4 memories, but a 90 second loop buffer.
> 
> 73,
> Lyle KK7P
> 

Thanks, Lyle, your comment led me to take another look in the manual. Now I
think I get it:

In either SSB or CW mode the KDVR3 gives you the ability to record 90
seconds of audio using the AF REC and play it back with AF PLAY. In CW mode,
the REC and M1-M4 buttons utilize the 8 CW memories. In SSB mode they
provide for record and play-back of voice messages.

Thanks to all for the help.

-
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility version 1.3.7.26 released for general availability

2010-08-04 Thread Rick Prather
Dick,

Since the Mac version hasn't been updated in a while would you recommend that 
us Mac users use the Win version instead?

Rick
K6LE

On 8/4/2010, at 8:58 , Dick Dievendorff wrote:

> The new K3 Utility version is not required, but there are a few months of
> changes, and I'd encourage you to remain more-or-less current.

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[Elecraft] K3 Utility version 1.3.7.26 released for general availability

2010-08-04 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The new K3 Utility version is not required, but there are a few months of
changes, and I'd encourage you to remain more-or-less current.

- K3 Utility functions that use EEPROM read and write have been sped up, and
are more reliable. This includes configuration save/restore, crystal filter
configuration, command macro read/write, RF Gain calibration, power-on
banner save/restore, TCXO data entry. Configuration save (at 38400 bps) now
takes less than 5 seconds. Reliability improvement comes from a (private)
protocol that includes a checksum. This improvement depends on MCU support
introduced in K3 MCU firmware version 3.83.  Earlier MCU versions continue
to use the older technique.

- Filter configuration now inhibits enabling a filter wider than 2.8 kHz for
CW. This was required as part of the MCU update for QRQ CW.

- The K3 Utility no longer sends commands to alter the K3's "auto info"
state. N8LP's LP-Bridge wasn't able to support the K3 Utility because it
changed Auto Info. That impediment has been removed. LP-Bridge is an N8LP
product that allows several PC application programs to apparently share a
single COM port that is connected to a K3. You still should not attempt to
load K3 firmware through LP-Bridge or any other K3 sharing software, such as
microHAM's uRouter.

- Fixed a bug in RF Gain calibration that changed the VFO frequency
slightly.

- Revised Tx Gain calibration to preserve the last-used frequency on each
band.

- Added a check during K3 firmware load to look for a P3, and if it's
present, ask the user to switch the P3 off for K3 firmware load. This is a
temporary workaround until P3 firmware supports a "pass thru" for K3
firmware load. 

Dick, K6KR

> For those of us who didn't order a P3  should we download the latest
firmware update?



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Production Firmware Rev. 4.05: Support for P3 Panadapter

2010-08-04 Thread Mike
  Knut,

I like to keep all my versions separate also.

Later versions of the utility will create a directory for you. In the "Local 
folder 
for Firmware" box, just type it in, or browse to your location, then add the 
\dirname. After the first time, all you have to change is the dirname.

You still have to check the "Copy new files" checkbox, and hit the "Check 
version 
now" button, to do the download, THEN hit the "Send checked items to K3" button 
to do 
the actual load

You are just as much in charge this way, it just hides the somewhat convoluted 
nav on 
the Elecraft web site.

73, Mike NF4L.


On 8/4/2010 9:02 AM, ab2tc wrote:
> Hi,
>
> OK, that will work for me. I like to be in charge of what I download and
> where I put it so I don't like to use the utility's automatic update
> feature. I have a subfolder for every version I have ever downloaded from
> Elecraft, each with a shortcut to the utility. It would be nice if Elecraft
> would provide a zip file with all the necessary files, whether it's a beta
> or not. But I am OK for now.
>
> AB2TC - Knut
>
>
> Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>> Not everyone has a computer in the shack or, if they do, a computer
>> connected to the internet. So those people usually download the
>> firmware
>> to a memory stick and transfer that to the machine they can connect to the
>> K3.
>>
>> The FTP site isn't very clear about which files apply, so just download
>> them
>> all (ignoring the folders) to your stick and the Utility will sort it out.
>>
>> Ron AC7AC
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-08-04 Thread Wayne Burdick
Optional. The changes were entirely in support of the P3.

But it can't hurt to have as many K3 users as possible testing the  
latest code.

Thanks,
Wayne
N6KR

On Aug 4, 2010, at 4:44 AM, Richard Thorpe wrote:

> For those of us who didn't order a P3  should we download the latest  
> firmware update?
>
> R Thorpe K6CG
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Pacificon 2010?

2010-08-04 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 07:58:07 -0700, Jim Brown wrote:

>I would expect Visalia 

I mean Paciifcon. :)

Jim



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Pacificon 2010?

2010-08-04 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 05:46:45 -, Ken Kopp wrote:

>How does it 
>compare to Visalia in attendance?  Visalia 
>definitely "pays" for us from an order perspective. 

I would expect Visalia to be pretty good for you. Attendance is 
perhaps a bit less, but still quite good, display space is 
reasonable, it's a comfortable enough venue. There are several 
inexpensive restaurants in a shopping center that is a very 
short walk from the hotel. 

The first day includes an antenna forum that fills a room the 
size of a Visalia meeting room, where guys like N6BV, N6LF, and 
I have been on the program. There are more presentations on 
Saturday and Sunday, but in are half as large as they need to 
be. And a flea market Sunday morning in the parking lot. 

Several ham clubs have booths, including NCCC, and we get very 
good traffic. The Elecraft booth is always busy, and usually 
much more so that the YaeWoodCom booths. I've never seen Ten 
Tec anywhere out here. 

73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] Reward for P3 S/N 56

2010-08-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill,

I would do about the same as the ARRL lifetime membership - based on 20 
years at the current subscription rate - payable in 4 installments 
within the first year.  So that is $2400, or 4 quarterly payments of 
$600.  Registration of your serial numbers will occur with the first 
payment :-) .
My address is good at QRZ.com - send your checks to that address.

73,
Don W3FPR

Bill K9YEQ wrote:
> What would you charge for a lifetime subscription to your service, Don?
>
> Bill
> K9YEQ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:22 PM
> To: Vic K2VCO
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reward for P3 S/N 56
>
> AHHH Vic,
>
> You shouldn't have.  Now there will be a real mountain of KX1, K1, K2,
> K3 and P3s out there with falsified serial numbers, and we can't tell the
> difference.  I guess we still need to engrave our call onto each and every
> board in the assembly :-) .
>
> This should move to a new thread labeled "K? identity theft" - there are
> probably insurance companies that will provide tracking of that for a fee.
> Starting my own business -- I will track your Elecraft serial numbers for
> $10 per month and provide you with an annual report of any discovered
> attempts to duplicate your serial number :-) .
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> Vic K2VCO wrote:
>   
>> On 8/2/2010 4:59 PM, George A. Thornton wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> There could be a black market in fake Elecraft serial number stickers.
>>> 
>>>   
>> I shouldn't reveal this, but they are easy to make. I have a little
>> 
> Brother P-Touch label 
>   
>> maker, and it does an excellent job -- almost indistinguishable from the
>> 
> real thing.
>   
>> My K3 is so old (serial no. 7) that it came with an old version of the
>> 
> rear panel. 
>   
>> Elecraft decided that they wanted everyone to have the newer one, so I got
>> 
> a replacement.
>   
>> But it didn't have a serial number, and taking the old one off destroyed
>> 
> it! The 
>   
>> labelmaker saved the day.
>>   
>> 
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[Elecraft] P3 S/N 56 reminder

2010-08-04 Thread Ken Kopp

If the recipient of P3 S/N 56 reads this, please contact me.

Like a winning lottery number, it's out there somewhere. (:-))

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories

2010-08-04 Thread Bill W4ZV


KK7P wrote:
> 
> 
>> Do you mean that the KDVR3 can record audio in CW mode? How?
> It doesn't use the M1..M4 memories, but a 90 second loop buffer.
> 

I just wish there was a way to extract a recording digitally.  I have a
recording of FT5GA on 160m stored there since last October and haven't
overwritten it yet hoping I'll find a way!  :-)



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Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories

2010-08-04 Thread Lyle Johnson

> ...However, with only 4 memories

The KDVR3 has eight message memories, not four.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories

2010-08-04 Thread Lyle Johnson

> Do you mean that the KDVR3 can record audio in CW mode? How?
It doesn't use the M1..M4 memories, but a 90 second loop buffer.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Production Firmware Rev. 4.05: Support for P3 Panadapter

2010-08-04 Thread ab2tc

Hi,

OK, that will work for me. I like to be in charge of what I download and
where I put it so I don't like to use the utility's automatic update
feature. I have a subfolder for every version I have ever downloaded from
Elecraft, each with a shortcut to the utility. It would be nice if Elecraft
would provide a zip file with all the necessary files, whether it's a beta
or not. But I am OK for now.

AB2TC - Knut


Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> 
> Not everyone has a computer in the shack or, if they do, a computer
> connected to the internet. So those people usually download the
> firmware
> to a memory stick and transfer that to the machine they can connect to the
> K3. 
> 
> The FTP site isn't very clear about which files apply, so just download
> them
> all (ignoring the folders) to your stick and the Utility will sort it out.
> 
> Ron AC7AC
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories

2010-08-04 Thread Stan Gibbs


Brett Howard wrote:
> 
> It only functions in SSB mode it provides no advantage in CW mode
> other than the fact that it can record over the air signals...
> 
> ~Brett (N7MG)
> 
> 

Do you mean that the KDVR3 can record audio in CW mode? How? Seems like the
Rec and M1-M4 buttons are already allocated to the CW memories.

I'm really just trying to decide whether or not to install a KDVR3 or not.
I'm almost 100% a CW op and I want to make sure of two things:

1) If I don't install the KDVR3, I won't miss it in CW and 
2) If I do install it, I won't compromise my CW operating. 

Thanks to those who responded. 
 

-
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Re: [Elecraft] [P3] on the way

2010-08-04 Thread John Fritze
Mine shipped yesterday!

Woo Hoo!

John
K2QY
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Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories

2010-08-04 Thread Pete Smith
I've seen that, and can see how it would work.  However, with only 4 
memories, you don't get all the potential variation and 
situation-specific messages that N1MM provides, nor the possibility of 
voicing callsigns or serial numbers (which I don't advocate, by the way).

For example, N1MM gives you 12 messages when running and another 12 for 
S&P, so you can have multiple-length CQs and different queries like 
"Sorry, I didn't get your section" and "Your serial number again, 
please."  Another advantage for phone contesters is that you can 
re-record your Run CQ message on the fly - extremely useful when you're 
running split on 40 and 80, and need to change your listening frequency 
(so I'm told - I'm a CW op myself, almost exclusively)

73, Pete N4ZR

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On 8/4/2010 6:49 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote:
>
> Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
>
>> The trouble is that you give up all the advantages of N1MM's integration
>> of logging and message-sending functions, particularly in Enter Sends
>> Messages mode.
>>
>>  
> I don't think so Pete, although I haven't yet tried this myself:
>
> http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3
>
> Whenever 10m comes back to life I'll probably use my KDVR3 in contests.
>
> 73,  Bill
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories

2010-08-04 Thread Dan Atchison

 Yep, I use this exclusive.  Works great, lasts a long time.  Only issue is 
that the ESC button does not stop the audio transmission, but I "fix" that 
problem by re-mapping an unused contesting key to emulate a "REC" button press 
(the button in the center of the memory keys which stops playback).  The 
re-mapped key I use (on my keyboard) is the tilde (~) key immediately below the 
ESC key.  Took no time to get used to. 

And, as already mentioned, the audio is outstanding.



Dan -- N3ND

 

 

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Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:

> 

> The trouble is that you give up all the advantages of N1MM's integration 

> of logging and message-sending functions, particularly in Enter Sends 

> Messages mode.

> 



I don't think so Pete, although I haven't yet tried this myself:



http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3



Whenever 10m comes back to life I'll probably use my KDVR3 in contests.



73,  Bill



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[Elecraft] P3

2010-08-04 Thread Richard Thorpe
For those of us who didn't order a P3  should we download the latest firmware 
update?

R Thorpe K6CG
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 assembly, resistance checks

2010-08-04 Thread Mike Markowski
Thanks for curing my builder's paranoia, Ron.  That's all it was.  :-)

Mike ab3ap

On Aug 3, 2010, at 11:18 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> ...It sounds like
> your meter is supplying enough voltage to start to turn some junctions "on"
> so they draw more current resulting in a lower resistance, then your meter
> switches ranges to one with less voltage and they again turn "off" and so
> on. 
> 
> Try using a manually-selected fixed range and see how it acts. 
> 
> Ron AC7AC
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 7:57 PM
> To: Elecraft
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 assembly, resistance checks
> 
> ...Of the 4 checks all are fine except for U12.
> Instead of getting a resistance reading on my digital meter, it never
> settles down.  It cycles through a range of values up through the Mohm
> range...
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Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories

2010-08-04 Thread Bob Naumann
While you don't get the ability to do all that you can do with the
computer's sound card - like voicing callsigns etc., - the K3DVR integrates
well with N1MM and sends the 4 messages in the K3 very smoothly and there is
no discernable difference in transmitted audio quality. The key is that you
don't *need* the computer to use them and you don't need to fuss with sound
card levels and all of that stuff. For those of us who chose an archaic mode
of communication as our primary mode, this amount of automation for fone is
just about perfect.

I turn ESM off for those rare occasions when I do fone.

73,

Bob W5OV

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Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
> 
> The trouble is that you give up all the advantages of N1MM's 
> integration of logging and message-sending functions, particularly in 
> Enter Sends Messages mode.
> 

I don't think so Pete, although I haven't yet tried this myself:

http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3

Whenever 10m comes back to life I'll probably use my KDVR3 in contests.

73,  Bill

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Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories

2010-08-04 Thread Bill W4ZV


Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
> 
> The trouble is that you give up all the advantages of N1MM's integration 
> of logging and message-sending functions, particularly in Enter Sends 
> Messages mode.
> 

I don't think so Pete, although I haven't yet tried this myself:

http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3

Whenever 10m comes back to life I'll probably use my KDVR3 in contests.

73,  Bill

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Re: [Elecraft] K3DVR vs CW Memories

2010-08-04 Thread Pete Smith
The trouble is that you give up all the advantages of N1MM's integration 
of logging and message-sending functions, particularly in Enter Sends 
Messages mode.  Setting up laptop-based message files takes more effort, 
but there's no inherent reason why they should not sound just as good.  
You need to be sure that all your recorded messages are set to the same 
peak amplitude, and adjust the various gain controls between the 
recorded file and the K3, but once they are set you can forget them.

One trick that can help is to run your microphone through the sound card 
to the rig, and set the sound card's microphone gain to provide the same 
output level as the recorded messages.  Then any other gain control 
changes you make will affect both your mike and the recorded audio.

I regularly use soundcard audio files, while simultaneously recording 
the entire contest using Sagebrush Software's RecAll Pro.  I am still 
working out some kinks with getting the K3's monitor level where I want 
it, but I'm sure I can get there.

73, Pete N4ZR

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On 8/3/2010 11:39 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
> I prefer to use the KDVR for CQ calls and contesting etc. More natural audio
> is transmitted than my laptop recordings sound using N1MM...Just my 2 cents
> worth...keep the change...(:-))
>
> Gary
>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Brett Howardwrote:
>
>
>> It only functions in SSB mode it provides no advantage in CW mode
>> other than the fact that it can record over the air signals...
>>
>> ~Brett (N7MG)
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Stan Gibbs  wrote:
>>  
>>> I've read the manuals and searched the archives, but I'm still unclear
>>>
>> what
>>  
>>> benefits, if any, the KDVR3 provides over the built-in CW memories for CW
>>> mode.
>>>
>>> I'm also unclear how the two interrelate; does the KDVR3 override or
>>>
>> replace
>>  
>>> the CW memories when it is installed, or does it function only in SSB
>>>
>> mode?
>>  
>>>
>>> -
>>> 73, Stan - KR7C
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Re: [Elecraft] Thread Killer

2010-08-04 Thread Pete Smith
The trouble with this is that people will often divert a thread in a 
totally different direction that may be of interest, but typically 
forget to change the title of their messages.

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On 8/4/2010 5:56 AM, w0...@aol.com wrote:
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: KPA3 100w amp

2010-08-04 Thread Bill W4ZV


DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:
> 
> Other than the price, have there been any changes to the KPA3 module
> (and associated parts/fans) since it was first introduced?
> 

There were a few units that "escaped" with a capacitor (C3) that should not
have been installed.  If you're buying a used unit, you might want to check
for that before installing it.  See below:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/K3%20Technical%20Alert%201.pdf

73,  Bill

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[Elecraft] Thread Killer

2010-08-04 Thread W0WOI

Have you grown weary of interminable email "threads" (topics) on your  
favorite email reflectors? If you use the gmail service, open the message on 
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 unwanted thread, press the "m" key , and gmail will "mute" the 
conversation and  not place future messages on the thread in your Inbox. 
(Thanks, David 
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