[Elecraft] APF Macros

[Chuck Guenther]

I reported a macro for turning on APF, RIT, and FINE and shifting RIT 
down 20 Hz in a
reflector message dated November 4, 2010. I also included a macro for 
clearing all these
functions, since I could not seem to come up with a toggleable version.

Since I wrote that, I revised my macro's to the following:

APF SHF:  IS ;SWH29;RT1;SWT53;RT0;RT1;RD;RD;SWT49;LK0;

APF CLR:  SWH29;SWT49;SWT53;RT0;IS ;

These work for me (I have them assigned to PF1 and PF2, respectively.
Perhaps someone else has a better set to report.  I certainly like the idea
of a shared library of macro's.

73,

Chuck Guenther  NI0C
K2-10, K3, P3



N6FB wrote:

"It is tough to get old and find most of your electronics know-how  is out
of date- so much so that creating a macro from scratch seems beyond my  ken.

APF is a very useful function, and I use it along with RIT as the  fine
tuning mechanism.  How would one generate and execute as either  a macro, or
PF1/PF2, to turn on and off a "APF and RIT activated"  function?

BIll Hartman
N6FB"



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power drop

[Richard Ferch]

Are you using AFSK or FSK? If it's AFSK, when you set the meter to 
display ALC, how many bars do you see when you transmit?

A possible cause of the symptoms you observe is too low audio input in 
AFSK. The input level should be high enough to display 4-5 bars on the 
ALC meter. With sufficient drive, the requested output power should be 
reached immediately, but with lower drive, the K3's ALC will take some 
time to bring the power up to the requested level. You can adjust the 
audio drive with the MIC gain control (which controls LINE IN gain in 
AFSK A and DATA A modes).

73,
Rich VE3KI



KH6/AA4V wrote:

> I noticed today when starting to transmit on RTTY in the WPX test,
> although the power out from the K3 was set on 60 W, the rig only put
> out about 30 W for the first several transmissions then the output
> gradually rose to 60 W as selected. The antenna SWR is 1.5.
>
> Any ideas? S/n is 855 But has bEen updated to current specs.
>
> Steve KH6/AA4V

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Re: [Elecraft] 2 M Transverter Stabliization

[David Pratt]

Like you, John, I find the XV144 to be extremely stable after allowing a
few minutes for the oven to attain its operating temperature. I get the
correct offset without the need for any additional inductance to pull
the crystal.

A modification I have made though is to add a cooling fan similar to
that fitted to the XV432.  My XV144 is an early model, so I also drilled
vent holes in the top and bottom covers. I believe these are now
standard in later XV144 kits.

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, John Ragle  writes
>
> I think the oven and L19 solve the two problems of drift and
>offset, at least in my XV144. I get ~20 W maximum from this XV144.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power drop

[Don Wilhelm]

  Steve,

Assuming you are operating RTTY in AFSK mode rather than FSK, my guess 
is that you are not driving the audio input to the K3 sufficiently.

Use TX TEST and observe the ALC meter.  Bring the audio up until you 
have at least 4 bars on solid and then increase it a bit more until you 
just barely see the 5th bar illuminate.

Contrary to "classic" instructions, that say you should not have any ALC 
indication, the K3 "ALC" meter is both a "VU" meter and an "ALC" meter.  
The onset of ALC does not occur until the 5th bar - below that it is an 
indicator of audio drive.

The most common result of having the audio into the K3 too low is just 
as you have stated - it takes a long time for the K3 power output to 
come up to the requested level.

Bottom line, ignore the "classic" advice, and drive the audio as 
instructed in the K3 manual, and adjust the power output with the K3 
power control knob.  Attempts to control the power output by adjusting 
the audio drive level will result in the "Power Creep" that you have 
observed.

The way the K3 controls power output is different than that if most 
other transceivers.  The K3 actually monitors the power output and 
attempts to control the transmit gain accordingly.  Other transceivers 
use their ALC mechanism to control the power output - the K3 does not 
(for those listening, the K2 is similar).

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/12/2011 11:41 PM, a...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> I noticed today when starting to transmit on RTTY in the WPX test, although 
> the power out from the K3 was set on 60 W, the rig only put out about 30 W 
> for the first several transmissions then the output gradually rose to 60 W as 
> selected. The antenna SWR is 1.5.
> Any ideas? S/n is 855 But has bEen updated to current specs.Steve KH6/AA4V
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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[Elecraft] K3 power drop

[aa4v]

I noticed today when starting to transmit on RTTY in the WPX test, although the 
power out from the K3 was set on 60 W, the rig only put out about 30 W for the 
first several transmissions then the output gradually rose to 60 W as selected. 
The antenna SWR is 1.5.
Any ideas? S/n is 855 But has bEen updated to current specs.Steve KH6/AA4V 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] HiCur problem

[Don Wilhelm]

  Brian,

HiCur messages combined with Low Power output is usually associated with 
a problem with T4 or the Low Pass Filter.

Since it did work before (I know it did last November). it may be that 
you have a PA transistor failure.  Such a PA transistor failure could be 
due to operating the K2 into a high SWR load (or an open circuit - no 
antenna, etc.).

If I were to guess, I would say that you have higher than normal voltage 
on the base of Q7 and Q8.  Measure it during transmit (TUNE will do).  
If it is higher than 0.63 volts, then that is the cause.  The problem 
could be due to Q7, Q8, Q11 or Q13.  The K2PAKIT contains replacements 
for all 4 and if you have bad PA transistors, I would suggest replacing 
them all.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/12/2011 8:00 PM, Brian Denley wrote:
> I am getting hi current message into a 50 ohm dummy load for any setting
> over 1 watt (even 1 watt is drawing well over 3 amps).  If I try to set the
> power output higher, the K2 clicks off and resets.  In previous tests, I
> could put 10 watts into the same load with out any problem.  Any ideas on
> where to look would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> Brian
> KB1VBF
>
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[Elecraft] KXPD1 and Loctite 242

[SABorns]

Another approach is to substitute a socket head cap screw for the knurled  
screw provided in the kit. 
 
Steven  Bornstein K8IDN
475 E. North Broadway
Columbus, Ohio 43214
614  263-5819
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Re: [Elecraft] AF1 filter

[Greg]

Ditto.  And Don is not limited to the mini module cases.  I recently
purchased a very nice N0SA key.  I sent Don the measurements and he made a
very nice dust cover for it.  Excellent work and very reasonable prices.

73
Greg
AB7R


On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Rose  wrote:

> I'll second Don's endorsement of Dave, W8FGU's enclusures for Elecraft
> Mini-Modules.
> We show some of them at Rose's booth at west coast hamfests.  I have
> several, and they're nicely done.
>
> 73!
> Ken - K0PP
> elecraftcov...@gmail.com
> http://tinyurl.com/7lm3m5
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>
> >  George,
> >
> > I don't have the hole dimensions, but I would like to point out that
> > Dave, W8FGU has some very nice acrylic enclosures for many of the
> > Mini-modules including the AF1.  See
> > http://w8fgu.home.comcast.net/~w8fgu/af1encl.html
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> > On 2/12/2011 7:24 PM, w2b...@aol.com wrote:
> > > Anyone have the hole layout dementions for mounting this unit in a
> > > enclosure? Tnx  George/W2BPI
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] APF Macro

[Dick Dievendorff]

There are some samples in K3 Utility help, look for command macros in the 
index. I'm open to adding and annotating more samples. This isn't to discourage 
use of other repositories, however. 

73 de Dick, K6KR

On Feb 12, 2011, at 17:14, "Ron D'Eau Claire"  wrote:

> Age notwithstanding, many of us find messing with macros or other
> 'programming' activities right up there in desirability with hauling out the
> trash. 
> 
> Perhaps it would be possible for Elecraft to start building a macro library.
> Even if a macro isn't exactly what you want, it's often a lot easier to make
> a small change than to start from scratch. 
> 
> Ron AC7AC
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of n...@aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 2:56 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] APF Macro
> 
> It is tough to get old and find most of your electronics know-how  is out 
> of date- so much so that creating a macro from scratch seems beyond my  ken.
> 
> APF is a very useful function, and I use it along with RIT as the  fine 
> tuning mechanism.  How would one generate and execute as either  a macro, or
> 
> PF1/PF2, to turn on and off a "APF and RIT activated"  function?
> 
> BIll Hartman
> N6FB
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Re: [Elecraft] AF1 filter

[Rose]

I'll second Don's endorsement of Dave, W8FGU's enclusures for Elecraft
Mini-Modules.
We show some of them at Rose's booth at west coast hamfests.  I have
several, and they're nicely done.

73!
Ken - K0PP
elecraftcov...@gmail.com
http://tinyurl.com/7lm3m5


On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

>  George,
>
> I don't have the hole dimensions, but I would like to point out that
> Dave, W8FGU has some very nice acrylic enclosures for many of the
> Mini-modules including the AF1.  See
> http://w8fgu.home.comcast.net/~w8fgu/af1encl.html
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 2/12/2011 7:24 PM, w2b...@aol.com wrote:
> > Anyone have the hole layout dementions for mounting this unit in a
> > enclosure? Tnx  George/W2BPI
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro 101 for DM780

[Matt Zilmer]

Fair enough.  Dick D. is a very good writer, and his Help menu has
saved a lot of frustration!

73,
matt W6NIA


On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:23:58 -0500 (EST), you wrote:

>Thanks Matt,
>
>I think there is enough info there for me to make the macros that I want 
>for filter width.
>
>The stuff I read actually made sense to me.  Plus examples with well 
>written explanations help also.
>
>Thanks
>Don
>KD8NNU
>
>
>On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
>
>> If you bring up the K3 Utility and punch the Help menu, Dick's set up
>> a very thorough macro help page.  It contains many examples, some of
>> them contributed by the Field Test group.
>>
>> The part of the Help system you want is called
>> "Command Tester / K3 Macros".
>>
>> Might give that a try.  It is quite extensive.
>>
>> 73,
>> matt W6NIA
>>
>> ==
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:08:34 -0500 (EST), you wrote:
>>
>>> Dear List,
>>>
>>> I have figured out how to send some button commands to the K3 from 
>>> the radio panel in DM780 which is tied to HRD.
>>>
>>> What I do on digital mode is go to my widest filter to find a signal 
>>> that I want to work.  Then when on it I push the I/II button to go to 
>>> filer II where I have a narrow setting to eleminat the side signals.
>>>
>>> What I would like to do is built some specfic filter macros in DM780 
>>> to select mutliple filter widths.  To take advangate of the DSP 
>>> ability to make almost any filter witdh that I want.
>>>
>>> Unfortunatly, it apears that my macro ability is equal to a "box of 
>>> rocks" .  At least I admit it, however once I get it, it sticks.
>>>
>>> I did find macros that folks wrote for other radios, but I can not 
>>> for the life of me figure out how to modify them for the K3.  So I am 
>>> looking at other places just with no luck.
>>>
>>> So please thanks in advance for the help.
>>>
>>> Don
>>> KD8NNU
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] 2 M Transverter Stabliization

[John Ragle]

 I recently built an XV144, and the LO was badly out of calibration. 
The crystal is marked 116.000, but the offset was about 15 kHz, totally 
uncorrectable with the K3 --> CONFIG --> XV 1 OFS, which manages +/- 
9.99 kHz. Elecraft quickly shipped me a "mod" which consists of a small, 
variable, inductor that goes in the RF circuit board at L19. In 
addition, I invested in the crystal oven, since my experience with the 
crystal oven in my ICOM910H has been quite satisfactory. This adds < $50 
to the purchase price of the XV144 kit.

 With the inductor at L19 (remember to remove the jumper by C65!) 
and with the oven in place, the offset is well within range of the K3 
adjustment. My casual observation is that the drift in the LO frequency 
is completely negligible. This observation stems from the fact that I 
was checked in to a New England net for about 45 minutes at 144.250 and 
noticed no change in dial setting for reception of the NCS. The 
instructions that come with the mod kit L19 suggest beginning with the 
top of the tuning slug flush with the top of the coil form. I found this 
setting to be quite critical, and ended up about 3/4 of a turn further 
out than suggested, with K3 --> CONFIG --> XV1 OFS set to 2.50 and a 
frequency counter reading of 144.25000 when the K3 dial was set to 
144.250. I have the J9 jumpers set so that the oven is ON when ever the 
K3 is on, and my K3 is on from about 6 AM to about 10 PM continuously, 
every day.

 I think the oven and L19 solve the two problems of drift and 
offset, at least in my XV144. I get ~20 W maximum from this XV144.

John Ragle -- W1ZI

=

On 2/12/2011 5:18 PM, David Pratt wrote:
> As far as I know, Chuck, Wayne has this in hand.
>
> My own K144XV is unusable because of the amount of frequency drift I am
> getting.  If I do use my K144XV I find that I am repeatedly having to
> apologise for Elecraft. It drifts almost 100Hz for every 5 minutes I
> transmit. This might be okay for FM, but certainly not for other modes.
>
> 73 de David G4DMP
>
> In a recent message, Chuck Smallhouse  writes
>> I'm referring to some concerns described by inputs to the Elecraft
>> Reflector, about not only the stability but also L.O. calibration of
>> the 2 M xvrtr, K144XV and probably the XV144.   I wonder if in the
>> near future you might consider phase locking their L.O.s to a 10 MHz
>> OCXO.  I understand that there are some Beta units in the field that
>> are locking the K3's TCXO to 10 MHz (when can I get one?).  It would
>> also be great if you could do the same for your 2M xvrtrs, so that
>> they could be synched to the same stable source.
>
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[Elecraft] [K3] Subreceiver - any use for AM, FM?

[Mike Markowski]

Yet another filter question...

My k3's main receiver (only rcvr just now!) has filters for FM, AM, 2.8
kHz, and 400 Hz.  I occasionally enjoy SWL and also have the general
coverage option.

I'm considering a subreceiver but am not sure there's a need for more
than duplicating the 2.8 kHz and 400 Hz filters: 2.8 kHz for tracking a
dx station's listening habits, and 2.8 kHz & 400 Hz for diversity
receive.  I can't think of a need for AM and FM on the sub.  Or am I
overlooking some useful applications of them?

Thanks and 73,
Mike ab3ap
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro 101 for DM780

[goldtr8]

Thanks Matt,

I think there is enough info there for me to make the macros that I want 
for filter width.

The stuff I read actually made sense to me.  Plus examples with well 
written explanations help also.

Thanks
Don
KD8NNU


On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:

> If you bring up the K3 Utility and punch the Help menu, Dick's set up
> a very thorough macro help page.  It contains many examples, some of
> them contributed by the Field Test group.
>
> The part of the Help system you want is called
> "Command Tester / K3 Macros".
>
> Might give that a try.  It is quite extensive.
>
> 73,
> matt W6NIA
>
> ==
>
>
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:08:34 -0500 (EST), you wrote:
>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> I have figured out how to send some button commands to the K3 from 
>> the radio panel in DM780 which is tied to HRD.
>>
>> What I do on digital mode is go to my widest filter to find a signal 
>> that I want to work.  Then when on it I push the I/II button to go to 
>> filer II where I have a narrow setting to eleminat the side signals.
>>
>> What I would like to do is built some specfic filter macros in DM780 
>> to select mutliple filter widths.  To take advangate of the DSP 
>> ability to make almost any filter witdh that I want.
>>
>> Unfortunatly, it apears that my macro ability is equal to a "box of 
>> rocks" .  At least I admit it, however once I get it, it sticks.
>>
>> I did find macros that folks wrote for other radios, but I can not 
>> for the life of me figure out how to modify them for the K3.  So I am 
>> looking at other places just with no luck.
>>
>> So please thanks in advance for the help.
>>
>> Don
>> KD8NNU
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD1 and Loctite 242

[Don Wilhelm]

  Moe,

I would shudder to think of locktite of any variety being used on the 
KXPD1 thumbscrew - you just might want to remove it someday.  Removable 
is just not that much "removable" - it works for things that need 
wrenches to remove, but the thumbscrew is a small diameter.
Newer KXPD1s come with an internal toothed lockwasher that can be 
optionally used instead of the normal flat lockwasher, so you might want 
to give that a try instead - use a #6 lockwasher, and beef it down with 
your strongest fingers, it should hold.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/12/2011 8:16 PM, Moe wrote:
> Being a connoisseur of the various grades of Loctite, frustration with the
> loosening of the KXPD1 thumbscrew tempts me to use a drop of #242, know as,
> and the color of, "blue."  This is the "removable" grade.  My question is,
> has anyone here (especially W3FPR) used this successfully?
>
> 73 de Moe
> AB8XA
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Re: [Elecraft] APF Macro

[Wes Stewart]

I could be all wet but I'm not sure you can, regardless of talent.  The K3 
command set is simply too limited.

Ideally you would want to be able to go into the CONFIG menu and enable (make 
it available) the APF function.  This isn't even straightforward doing it 
manually, because even though it is a CW only function, there shouldn't be 
(IMHO) a requirement for the mode to be in CW to enable the function, but you 
must.

Second, when the APF is first turned on I believe that it should default to the 
PITCH frequency.  But it doesn't and there is no way to make it so.  The "IS 
9000;" command will center the non-APF SHIFT to the PITCH frequency for a known 
starting point, but it doesn't work on APF.

Third, the way APF is turned ON/OFF is via a "Hold" of a button and this a 
toggle function.  This key hold can be commanded via a macro but there isn't a 
command to simply say, "Turn on (or off) the APF". So it seems to me that 
trying to assign a function to macro key assignment just moves the toggle 
requirement from one key to another.  Hardly seems like progress.

Wes  N7WS


--- On Sat, 2/12/11, n...@aol.com  wrote:

> From: n...@aol.com 
> Subject: [Elecraft] APF Macro
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 3:55 PM
> It is tough to get old and find most
> of your electronics know-how  is out 
> of date- so much so that creating a macro from scratch
> seems beyond my  ken.
>  
> APF is a very useful function, and I use it along with RIT
> as the  fine 
> tuning mechanism.  How would one generate and execute
> as either  a macro, or 
> PF1/PF2, to turn on and off a "APF and RIT activated" 
> function?
>  
> BIll Hartman
> N6FB
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[Elecraft] KXPD1 and Loctite 242

[Moe]

Being a connoisseur of the various grades of Loctite, frustration with the
loosening of the KXPD1 thumbscrew tempts me to use a drop of #242, know as,
and the color of, "blue."  This is the "removable" grade.  My question is,
has anyone here (especially W3FPR) used this successfully?

73 de Moe
AB8XA
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[Elecraft] [K3] Adjusting an Antenna Tuner with the P3

[John W2XS]

There is an article in the March 2011 QST by KC2KZJ (page 48) where he
describes using his spectrum display to adjust his antenna tuner.  I just
tried it with the K3/P3 and a Drake MN-4 tuner connected through a 4-to-1
balun to a 132' center-fed zepp antenna. The noise source was a Palomar
Tuner-Tuner model PT-340. I found matches from 80m to 10m by watching the P3
display and adjusting for minimum noise level. The nulls on some bands are
very sharp, and using the P3 made it easier to find the right settings.

I normally do not use the manual tuner with the K3, since it has the KAT3. 
But the settings were written down and will be used with the Drake
equipment. 

73,

John W2XS
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[Elecraft] [K2] HiCur problem

[Brian Denley]

I am getting hi current message into a 50 ohm dummy load for any setting 
over 1 watt (even 1 watt is drawing well over 3 amps).  If I try to set the 
power output higher, the K2 clicks off and resets.  In previous tests, I 
could put 10 watts into the same load with out any problem.  Any ideas on 
where to look would be appreciated.
Thanks
Brian
KB1VBF
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html 

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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net announcement

[Phillip Shepard]

The weekly SSB net will meet tomorrow (2/13/11) at 1800z on 14.314 MHz. I
will be net control from western Oregon. We'll arrange for relays to try to
pull  you all in.  See you then.

73,

Phil
NS7P

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

[Kevin Rock]

Good Evening,
If the house or antennas do not get blown away in the next twenty-four  
hours then we can have a net.  Currently the wind is howling and the rains  
have begun.  It was sunny earlier in the day but never calm.  I awoke to  
branches hitting the roof and jake brakes rumbling by.  Yes, they are  
earnest in their attempts to build new logging roads.  But a few of the  
drivers are more considerate and use real brakes instead of their  
compression release.  Even so the trucks are so large the house shakes  
when they pass by.  Later in the day the winds were so great I could no  
longer felt or heard them.
Propagation was good this week during the day on twenty meters.  Some  
flutter due to the sun's activities but not too bad.  Let's check them  
again on Sunday.

Please join us tomorrow afternoon and evening.

1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
2) NCS help  (as well as QSP/QNP  help)

Sunday 2300z (Sunday 3 PM PST) 14050 kHz
Monday 0100z (Sunday 5 PM PST)  7045 kHz

  Stay well,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS

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Re: [Elecraft] AF1 filter

[Don Wilhelm]

  George,

I don't have the hole dimensions, but I would like to point out that 
Dave, W8FGU has some very nice acrylic enclosures for many of the 
Mini-modules including the AF1.  See 
http://w8fgu.home.comcast.net/~w8fgu/af1encl.html

73,
Don W3FPR

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> Anyone have the hole layout dementions for mounting this unit in a
> enclosure? Tnx  George/W2BPI
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[Elecraft] AF1 filter

[W2bpi1]

Anyone have the hole layout dementions for mounting this unit in a  
enclosure? Tnx  George/W2BPI
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Re: [Elecraft] APF Macro

[Jim McDonald]

The help file of the K3 Utility program has lots of useful macros as well as
the information on how to send them to the radio and assign them to radio
buttons using the CONFIG menu.

For anyone using DXLab's Commander rig control program, that program offers
an alternative to macros in the K3. Commander's macros, called user-defined
sequences, can be longer than those in the K3 Utility program. They don't
use any of the buttons on the K3 either.  You can even set up macros in
DXLab's WinWarbler to activate the K3 voice memories if you have a K3DVR.

They are also easy to share, with no typing or "programming" required.  I
have saved some of the ones I've created for my K3 on the DXLab Yahoo Group
web site.  They are simple text files that can be copied to your hard drive
and assigned to an F-key or button on the Commander screen.

I have Commander sequences to switch mics between the front and rear panel
jacks, including the TX EQ and other settings, an AF mute, VOX on/off,
split/up 2, and clear split.

I leave my M1-M4 buttons for message uses and also use them as frequency
presets within bands using the Elecraft K3 Freq Memory Editor program.

Commander is the rig control program within a suite of free programs that
include logging, a DX spot database, digital mode and CW support,
propagation, and others.

http://www.dxlabsuite.com/ 

Having said that, I still use PF1 and PF2 (RIT and XIT hold, respectively)
on my K3 to set the TX power to 45W or full power.  The PF1 gives me a
starting point to drive my amplifier, and PF2 sets the K3 to full power for
"barefoot" operation.

I have referred to the K3 Programming Manual, but I admit that's a bit "hard
core" for someone not wanting to get that involved.

Jim N7US



-Original Message-

Age notwithstanding, many of us find messing with macros or other
'programming' activities right up there in desirability with hauling out the
trash. 

Perhaps it would be possible for Elecraft to start building a macro library.
Even if a macro isn't exactly what you want, it's often a lot easier to make
a small change than to start from scratch. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

It is tough to get old and find most of your electronics know-how is out 
of date- so much so that creating a macro from scratch seems beyond my  ken.
 
APF is a very useful function, and I use it along with RIT as the  fine 
tuning mechanism.  How would one generate and execute as either  a macro, or

PF1/PF2, to turn on and off a "APF and RIT activated"  function?
 
BIll Hartman
N6FB


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Re: [Elecraft] APF Macro

[Cady, Fred]

Send me your macros and I'll put them up on ke7x.com


Fred Cady
fcady at ieee dot org  

> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron 
> D'Eau Claire
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 4:14 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] APF Macro
> 
> Age notwithstanding, many of us find messing with macros or other
> 'programming' activities right up there in desirability with 
> hauling out the
> trash. 
> 
> Perhaps it would be possible for Elecraft to start building a 
> macro library.
> Even if a macro isn't exactly what you want, it's often a lot 
> easier to make
> a small change than to start from scratch. 
> 
> Ron AC7AC
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] APF Macro

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Age notwithstanding, many of us find messing with macros or other
'programming' activities right up there in desirability with hauling out the
trash. 

Perhaps it would be possible for Elecraft to start building a macro library.
Even if a macro isn't exactly what you want, it's often a lot easier to make
a small change than to start from scratch. 

Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of n...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 2:56 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] APF Macro

It is tough to get old and find most of your electronics know-how  is out 
of date- so much so that creating a macro from scratch seems beyond my  ken.
 
APF is a very useful function, and I use it along with RIT as the  fine 
tuning mechanism.  How would one generate and execute as either  a macro, or

PF1/PF2, to turn on and off a "APF and RIT activated"  function?
 
BIll Hartman
N6FB
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Re: [Elecraft] Split not available

[harrytheham]

I configured my K3's RIT button (push hold) to engage split with the VFO B freq 
5kHz up from VFO A, and the XIT button (push hold) to clear split.

For split the macros I put together are: SWT13; SWT13; FT1; UPB7; RT0; XT0
For clear split the macros are: FT0; RT0; XT0; LN0; SW000

Hope this helps,

Harry WE1X


Feb 12, 2011 10:55:08 PM, gm3...@ifwtech.co.uk wrote:

===

K8AC wrote:
>
>How about just making the SPLIT button one that can be programmed via 
>macros. Seems more reasonable than the current situation that often 
>results in calling on top of a DX station when you meant to be split.
>
I would strongly support that proposal: for a config option[1] to 
redefine the SPLIT button (hold A>B) as a programmable function key, 
which users could then assign to their personalized version of 'advanced 
split'.

The macro facility is one of the very best features of the K3, but it 
has caused some problems of its own. The existing programmable keys can 
become heavily over-used, because all of them serve other functions as 
well, while keys like SPLIT that have been replaced become idle.

While we're looking around for under-used keys, there must be many KRX3 
owners who don't use the REV button any more. A further option[1] could 
therefore be to redefine (tap REV) and (hold REV) as two more 
programmable keys.


[1]  "Option" is the key word here. The reason for requesting these 
enhancements as config options is so that the default SPLIT and REV 
functions can remain exactly as they are now.





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[Elecraft] APF Macro

[N6FB]

It is tough to get old and find most of your electronics know-how  is out 
of date- so much so that creating a macro from scratch seems beyond my  ken.
 
APF is a very useful function, and I use it along with RIT as the  fine 
tuning mechanism.  How would one generate and execute as either  a macro, or 
PF1/PF2, to turn on and off a "APF and RIT activated"  function?
 
BIll Hartman
N6FB
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Re: [Elecraft] Split not available

[Ian White GM3SEK]

K8AC wrote:
>
>How about just making the SPLIT button one that can be programmed via 
>macros. Seems more reasonable than the current situation that often 
>results in calling on top of a DX station when you meant to be split.
>
I would strongly support that proposal: for a config option[1] to 
redefine the SPLIT button (hold A>B) as a programmable function key, 
which users could then assign to their personalized version of 'advanced 
split'.

The macro facility is one of the very best features of the K3, but it 
has caused some problems of its own. The existing programmable keys can 
become heavily over-used, because all of them serve other functions as 
well, while keys like SPLIT that have been replaced become idle.

While we're looking around for under-used keys, there must be many KRX3 
owners who don't use the REV button any more. A further option[1] could 
therefore be to redefine (tap REV) and (hold REV) as two more 
programmable keys.


[1]  "Option" is the key word here. The reason for requesting these 
enhancements as config options is so that the default SPLIT and REV 
functions can remain exactly as they are now.





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Re: [Elecraft] Split not available

[Bob Naumann]

Well Joe, it seems you're attaching a lot of emotion to this issue, but I
think you still miss the point.

I apologize if I'm not making this issue clear enough to you, but I'm afraid
you're attacking when you should be supporting. I therefore must conclude
that I am just not able to communicate with you clearly and focus my
comments on the underlying issue due to some limitation in my vocabulary and
I apologize for my lack of communication skills.

Oh, one thing I would make clear is that I am not "too damn lazy". If I was,
I probably wouldn't bother trying to help you understand the issue that
you're criticizing in error.

In addition, all of your critiques of my suggestion are incorrect. Sorry.
Nothing I am suggesting will change any current function or force anything
"arbitrary" or "unrelated" to the commands we're discussing. If you think
so, please provide support for your incorrect claims. I'm willing to learn.

One last try:

I'm going to ask you to describe a scenario where an operator who desires to
go to SPLIT operation actually wants to get the SPL/NA response from his K3.
I'm hoping that you will agree that the answer is that there is no scenario
where an operator wants to see SPL/NA. I don't - and this is the entire
point. 

Today, if his VFO A and VFO B are not already on the same band, this is what
he gets (SPL/NA). This is not what he wants. How does that fit into your
ergonomic rules? 

How does this occur? As I have described, it happens all the time. Every
time there is a major DXpedition, I am reminded of how frustrating it is to
get the SPL/NA message over, and over again. Most DXpeditions operate SPLIT
- the DX station transmits on one frequency and everyone else (except the
frequency cops) transmits somewhere else. Recently, I was trying to work the
VP8ORK operation on 20m CW. They were transmitting on 14024 and listening up
the band a few kHz. I was operating SPLIT with VFO A on 14024 and VFO B on
14030 or so. (I probably got the SPL/NA warning when I went to go SPLIT
initially and went through all 6 steps as I described previously but that's
not important now). After calling for a while, I saw that they were spotted
on 40m on 7024. So, I popped VFO A over to 7024 and heard them calling and I
Pressed and Held the SPLIT button (*STEP 1*) and guess what? I get the
stupid SPL/NA message because VFO B is still on 14030. So what do I have to
do? I have to do steps 2 through 6 - AGAIN!

* Step 2 - Recognize the SPL/NA message in the VFOB display
* Step 3 - Tap VFO A ->  VFO B
* Step 4 - Press and Hold Split (Again)
* Step 5 - Set the VFO B Frequency
* Step 6 - Work the DX Station

Doesn't all that seem like a lot to do when all I wanted was to go SPLIT on
40m?

Wouldn't this be better? (Again, *ONLY* if my VFOs are not already on the
same band). 

* Step 1 - Press and Hold SPLIT which also sets VFO A ->  VFO B (Please,
please recognize that the VFO A-> VFO B should happen ONLY if the VFOs are
not already on the same band)
* Step 2 - Set the VFO B Frequency
* Step 3 - Work the DX Station

It is this scenario, which I imagine was repeated ad infinitum around the
world by thousands of K3 users in VP8ORK pileups when they change bands and
in error Press and Hold Split before they tap VFO A -> VFO B.

Can't you see that there is no other logical action in this scenario?

If the operator has already tapped VFO A to VFO B and then Pressed and Held
SPLIT - nothing should change and the VFOs should not be synced!

Again, if the operator is Pressing and Holding the SPLIT button and his VFOs
are on different bands, this is what he wants.  If he did not want this,
then he would not have Pressed and Held the SPLIT button - would he? What am
I missing?

None of what I have described will alter your use of VFO B as "scratchpad".
If the VFOs are configured such that they would permit SPLIT operation now
(being on the same mode and band), there's nothing in what I'm suggesting
that would alter that behavior so I am perplexed as to what you are so
concerned about.

I'm talking about making the K3 easier to use and reducing the number of
steps required to change to SPLIT when your two VFOs are not already on the
same band. Isn't this a simple enough concept?

I detailed out what one must do with the confines of the current logic in
the 6 steps I described in my previous email. If I have erred, please tell
me what I have described in those steps that is in error.

None of what I am suggesting makes anything "arbitrary" or does anything
"unrelated". I am not asking for any change in functionality as you are
evidently objecting to - aside from never seeing the stupid SPL/NA message.

73,

Bob W5OV






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From: Joe Subich, W4TV [mailto:li...@subich.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 3:24 PM
To: Bob Naumann
Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split not available


> While there may be some who on some rare occasions need VHF
> Cross-mode AND Split at the same time

Re: [Elecraft] 2 M Transverter Stabliization

[David Pratt]

As far as I know, Chuck, Wayne has this in hand.

My own K144XV is unusable because of the amount of frequency drift I am 
getting.  If I do use my K144XV I find that I am repeatedly having to 
apologise for Elecraft. It drifts almost 100Hz for every 5 minutes I 
transmit. This might be okay for FM, but certainly not for other modes.

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Chuck Smallhouse  writes
>
>I'm referring to some concerns described by inputs to the Elecraft
>Reflector, about not only the stability but also L.O. calibration of
>the 2 M xvrtr, K144XV and probably the XV144.   I wonder if in the
>near future you might consider phase locking their L.O.s to a 10 MHz
>OCXO.  I understand that there are some Beta units in the field that
>are locking the K3's TCXO to 10 MHz (when can I get one?).  It would
>also be great if you could do the same for your 2M xvrtrs, so that
>they could be synched to the same stable source.



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[Elecraft] 2 M Transverter Stabliization

[Chuck Smallhouse]

Wayne, Eric,

I'm referring to some concerns described by inputs to the Elecraft 
Reflector, about not only the stability but also L.O. calibration of 
the 2 M xvrtr, K144XV and probably the XV144.   I wonder if in the 
near future you might consider phase locking their L.O.s to a 10 MHz 
OCXO.  I understand that there are some Beta units in the field that 
are locking the K3's TCXO to 10 MHz (when can I get one?).  It would 
also be great if you could do the same for your 2M xvrtrs, so that 
they could be synched to the same stable source.

Many of us VHF/UHF/Microwave weak signal and EME 
experimenters/operators, are now phase locking (via a 10 MHz source) 
our xvrtrs to those upper bands, most of which use a 2 M IF.  At 
present I don't believe that there are any other manufactures or 
vendors doing this yet, for 2 M xvrtrs.  It would really be a boon to 
have a self contained, ultra stable and accurate, 2M IF system the 
quality of a K3.

Chuck,  W7CS

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[Elecraft] K2 and Headphones

[Steve & Anne Ray]

Being lazy and hating to plug and unplug headphones, I simply made an audio
box that I feed the audio from the speaker output of the K2 to a switch that
switches between my head phones and my external speaker.   I use an old
Heathkit Speaker HS-1661 rather then the built in Elecraft speaker.   The
audio from this speaker is great and it points right at me rather then up
like the speaker in the K2. Try also the old GE Mobile or Motorola
Mobile speakers they have good audio also, the Heathkit, GE and Motorola
speakers are often available at hamfests for $10 or $20 at the most.

 

73,

Steve K4JPN

http://www.thewinstonator.com/K4JPN.htm

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] headphone jack replacement tips?

[drewko]

I wired a headhpone/speaker switch into my K2 when I replaced the
headphone jack.. The switch is mounted on the back panel (in the
unused XVTR hole). 

I leave the headphones plugged in all the time and select between
headphones and speaker with the switch, saving a lot of wear and tear
on the new jack. This is also  more convenient because you have to
hold onto the K2 cabinet every time you unplug the phones; it's much
nicer just reaching behind the rig and flicking the switch. 

I can send you a drawing/description of the switch wiring if you like.

73,
Drew
AF2Z



On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:18:17 -0500, you wrote:

>I think I finally might get to replacing my failed headphone jack this
>weekend. Anyone have any tips for this little job? I recall that there
>are more than a few pins to desolder.
>
>Also, does it make sense to not put stress on the headphone jack in
>the future by plugging my headphones into the external speaker jack on
>the rear of the unit? My headphone cable is plenty long to reach
>there, and would rather not have to replace this again in the
>future--as it seems to be the case with many folks.
>
>Thanks.
>-john W4PAH
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Re: [Elecraft] Split not available

[K8AC]

How about just making the SPLIT button one that can be programmed via macros. 
Seems more reasonable than the current situation that often results in
calling on top of a DX station when you meant to be split.

73, Floyd - K8AC
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Re: [Elecraft] PIC Programming info

[John Lonigro]

Lee:

Go to AMQRP.ORG.  They have an online instruction booklet on programming PICs 
that you can download.  On the upper right of the webpage, click on Elmer 160 
course.  You will learn a lot about PIC programming from the author, John 
WB8RCR.  The chip he talks about probably isn't the one you are interested in, 
but once you learn to program one PIC from Microchip, learning about another 
one is easy.  The data sheets available from the manufacturer for individual 
chips are extensive and are almost a course in themselves.  Also, Microchip has 
a website to help you select the chip you need for your project.  I use the 
16F88 which I've found to contain most of the features I'm interested in.

Good Luck,

John AA0VE

Message: 3
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:22:02 -0500
From: Pete Zawasky 
Subject: [Elecraft]  PIC Programming Book
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I wonder if
the people on the list could point me to books, manuals, information concerning
the programming of PIC devices?

Lee - K0WA
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Re: [Elecraft] PIC Programming info

[John Lonigro]

Lee:

Go to AMQRP.ORG.  They have an online instruction booklet on programming PICs 
that you can download.  On the upper right of the webpage, click on Elmer 160 
course.  You will learn a lot about PIC programming from the author, John 
WB8RCR.  The chip he talks about probably isn't the one you are interested in, 
but once you learn to program one PIC from Microchip, learning about another 
one is easy.  The data sheets available from the manufacturer for individual 
chips are extensive and are almost a course in themselves.  Also, Microchip has 
a website to help you select the chip you need for your project.  I use the 
16F88 which I've found to contain most of the features I'm interested in.

Good Luck,

John AA0VE

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:22:02 -0500
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I wonder if
the people on the list could point me to books, manuals, information concerning
the programming of PIC devices?

Lee - K0WA
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Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition S9DX

[Amateur Radio Operator N5GE]

S7 here in North Texas, but a very large pile up.

N5GE

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:14:48 -0500 (EST), gold...@charter.net  wrote:

>Anyone having luck getting the DXpedition S9DX.
>
>I am struck out since Thursday, any K3 tips or are they just not getting 
>out?
>
>Don
>KD8NNU
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Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition S9DX

[Robert Harmon]

way to go Don !

I have them worked on 40, trying to get some other bands.
They were marginal copy here on 40, the K3 APF really helped.

73,
Bob
K6UJ




On Feb 12, 2011, at 8:31 AM, W4CCS wrote:

> Worked them on 6 bands  since Thursday.. 12, 15, 20, 40, 80 and 160
> 
> W4CCS
> 
> 
> On 2/12/2011 11:14 AM, gold...@charter.net wrote:
>> Anyone having luck getting the DXpedition S9DX.
>> 
>> I am struck out since Thursday, any K3 tips or are they just not getting
>> out?
>> 
>> Don
>> KD8NNU
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Split not available

[Amateur Radio Operator N5GE]

All,

It has been pointed out to me that I misread Bob's post.

It turns out that I did indeed read it wrong.

Apologies to all...

73,

Tom Childers
Radio Amateur N5GE
Licensed since 1976
QCWA Life Member 35102
ARRL Life Member
Retired Professional
C# Software developer
http://www.n5ge.net

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:28:50 -0600, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE 
wrote:

>
>Bob,
>
>Why should it do that?
>
>The description of what you want to happen would cause me, who primarily uses
>split to work CW DX, to have to retune my B VFO to the DX listening frequency,
>which is much more trouble than double tapping A>B to put both VFO's on the 
>same
>frequency.  
>
>In addition, from a software developer's point of view your suggestion to 
>change
>the default operation of the HOLD A>B would cause many developers to have to
>modify their software to accommodate your wishes.
>
>Why don't you write a macro that does what you want using the K3 control
>application?  That's why the folks at Elecraft gave us that capability.
>
>
>On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 03:36:58 -0600, "Bob Naumann"   wrote:
>
>>Joe,
>>
>>Again, ***if VFOB is not on the same band/mode as VFOA***, and you press and
>>hold SPLIT (which clearly means you want to go SPLIT) this should cause a
>>VFOA-> VFOB and then turn on SPLIT.
>>
>>Please explain how this is a bad idea and under what circumstances this
>>would cause a problem.
>>
>>73,
>>
>>Bob W5OV
>>
>[snip]
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Re: [Elecraft] KAF / KDSP2: Straight swap, or any gotchas?

[Don Wilhelm]

  Andrew,

Just remove one and put the other one in - no problem.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/12/2011 1:45 PM, Andrew Moore wrote:
> A fellow list member and I have are swapping each other's KAF / KDSP2.  Each
> has been installed and operational in their original K2's (i.e. the initial
> mods have been done to the control board... removing resistors, etc.)
>
> Assuming firmware and hardware is up to date, should we be able to simply
> swap these boards into our K2's without any additional mods or component
> replacement on the K2 control board?  I'm pretty certain the mounting
> hardware is the same; I'm thinking more like resistors, capacitors, jumpers,
> etc...
>
> Thanks,
> --Andrew, NV1B
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[Elecraft] KAF / KDSP2: Straight swap, or any gotchas?

[Andrew Moore]

A fellow list member and I have are swapping each other's KAF / KDSP2.  Each
has been installed and operational in their original K2's (i.e. the initial
mods have been done to the control board... removing resistors, etc.)

Assuming firmware and hardware is up to date, should we be able to simply
swap these boards into our K2's without any additional mods or component
replacement on the K2 control board?  I'm pretty certain the mounting
hardware is the same; I'm thinking more like resistors, capacitors, jumpers,
etc...

Thanks,
--Andrew, NV1B
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[Elecraft] Headphone vs Speaker volume

[Bob Lanning]

Does the K3 have a means to set the volume for speakers independently of
the headphones?
 
New headphones - specifically Heil's new ProSet with the HC6 element and
the Elite have a lower audio output put.  The K3 requires an AF Gain
adjustment each time I switch between them.
 
Some radios have a physical trimmer (Yaesu Mark-V) or a menu item
(IC-7700 & IC-7800) to compensate for headphone volume variations.  I
can't find such a feature on the K3.
 
73,
 
Bob - W6OPO
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Control Board resistance checks

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Those should be good, Ed. When trying to measure resistance in a circuit
containing semiconductor junctions, DMMs voltage can sometimes alter
readings a bit. You are within 10%.

Many DMMs give no reading at all when seeing an open circuit. What does you
DMM do in resistance scale with the leads not touching anything? 

Ron AC7AC 

-Original Message-
I have some questions on the results of my check.  
U6 pin 29 should read between 70 and 90k, I'm reading 96k.
U6 pin 30 should read between 70 and 90k, I'm reading 97k.
U8 pin 15 and 16 should read >100k, I'm not getting a reading at all so I'm
wondering if this is the way my DMM reads infinity.

Are these readings in the ball park or do I have some trouble some where?

73, Ed
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Control Board resistance checks

[Don Wilhelm]

  Ed,

The first two readings are very likely OK, you might re-check by 
reversing the leads or putting new batteries in your DMM.  The other 
possibility is that you are using auto-ranging, and the reading may be a 
bit different if you switch to the first fixed range greater than 90k

I don't know how you DMM indicates an infinite reading, but you can 
easily check - it will be the same reading as you get with nothing 
connected to the leads.

73
Don W3FPR

On 2/12/2011 1:19 PM, EMD wrote:
> I have some questions on the results of my check.
> U6 pin 29 should read between 70 and 90k, I'm reading 96k.
> U6 pin 30 should read between 70 and 90k, I'm reading 97k.
> U8 pin 15 and 16 should read>100k, I'm not getting a reading at all so I'm
> wondering if this is the way my DMM reads infinity.
>
> Are these readings in the ball park or do I have some trouble some where?
>
> 73, Ed
> KE7HGA
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[Elecraft] K2 Control Board resistance checks

[EMD]

I have some questions on the results of my check.  
U6 pin 29 should read between 70 and 90k, I'm reading 96k.
U6 pin 30 should read between 70 and 90k, I'm reading 97k.
U8 pin 15 and 16 should read >100k, I'm not getting a reading at all so I'm
wondering if this is the way my DMM reads infinity.

Are these readings in the ball park or do I have some trouble some where?

73, Ed
KE7HGA
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Re: [Elecraft] Split not available

[Amateur Radio Operator N5GE]

Bob,

Why should it do that?

The description of what you want to happen would cause me, who primarily uses
split to work CW DX, to have to retune my B VFO to the DX listening frequency,
which is much more trouble than double tapping A>B to put both VFO's on the same
frequency.  

In addition, from a software developer's point of view your suggestion to change
the default operation of the HOLD A>B would cause many developers to have to
modify their software to accommodate your wishes.

Why don't you write a macro that does what you want using the K3 control
application?  That's why the folks at Elecraft gave us that capability.


On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 03:36:58 -0600, "Bob Naumann"   wrote:

>Joe,
>
>Again, ***if VFOB is not on the same band/mode as VFOA***, and you press and
>hold SPLIT (which clearly means you want to go SPLIT) this should cause a
>VFOA-> VFOB and then turn on SPLIT.
>
>Please explain how this is a bad idea and under what circumstances this
>would cause a problem.
>
>73,
>
>Bob W5OV
>
[snip]

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Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition S9DX

[goldtr8]

DX summit was the key to finding them

Thank you all for the help I got them once thats all i needed.



Don
KD8NNU


On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:

> For family reasons I haven't been very active and I concentrate on 
> RTTY these days.  But I worked them on 17, 20 and 30-meter RTTY and I 
> really only have a decent antenna for 20. The other bands are worked 
> with an 80-meter inverted vee fed with 150 feet of coax.  Certainly 
> not the greatest.
>
> Wes  N7WS
>
>
> --- On Sat, 2/12/11, gold...@charter.net  wrote:
>
>> From: gold...@charter.net 
>> Subject: [Elecraft] DXpedition S9DX
>> To: "Elecraft List" 
>> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 9:14 AM
>> Anyone having luck getting the
>> DXpedition S9DX.
>>
>> I am struck out since Thursday, any K3 tips or are they
>> just not getting out?
>>
>> Don
>> KD8NNU
>>
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[Elecraft] Dxpeditions

[r miles]

Here it's a K3, 500w and no antenna in my little antenna farm over 50'. 
Got the S9  on 6 bands. The TJ9 on 4 bands.
The  most important thing beyond  a good antenna is timing. If the stn 
you are chasing is wrking very few in your area you probably don't have 
the propagation.
If you know DXers  around you ask them. They may  have wrkd them  at the 
peak times. Nothing wrong in asking. DX IS

K9IL
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Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition S9DX

[goldtr8]

I found them and want to work rtty, but are they running split in this 
mode also,

If so then i am out of luck as I have no clue how to run dm780 is split.

Don
KD8NNU


On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:31 AM, W4CCS wrote:

> Worked them on 6 bands  since Thursday.. 12, 15, 20, 40, 80 and 160
>
> W4CCS
>
>
> On 2/12/2011 11:14 AM, gold...@charter.net wrote:
>> Anyone having luck getting the DXpedition S9DX.
>>
>> I am struck out since Thursday, any K3 tips or are they just not 
>> getting
>> out?
>>
>> Don
>> KD8NNU
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition S9DX

[Wes Stewart]

For family reasons I haven't been very active and I concentrate on RTTY these 
days.  But I worked them on 17, 20 and 30-meter RTTY and I really only have a 
decent antenna for 20. The other bands are worked with an 80-meter inverted vee 
fed with 150 feet of coax.  Certainly not the greatest.

Wes  N7WS


--- On Sat, 2/12/11, gold...@charter.net  wrote:

> From: gold...@charter.net 
> Subject: [Elecraft] DXpedition S9DX
> To: "Elecraft List" 
> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 9:14 AM
> Anyone having luck getting the
> DXpedition S9DX.
> 
> I am struck out since Thursday, any K3 tips or are they
> just not getting 
> out?
> 
> Don
> KD8NNU
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition S9DX

[drewko]

I got them on CW with my K3/10 and random wire antenna.  It can take a
bit of work. I use a straight key also, so have to pace myself a
little more. (I probably don't send my callsign more than a few
hundred times in one sitting, ha-hah...) I like to pretend that the
hand-sent code gives me an edge over the rest.

I figure if I have to dial in APF and narrow filters that means the DX
guys are probably not going to hear me, so I lay back a little; save
my energy for when they are stronger, then pour it on.

I also got VP8ORK and D44TBE in the past week. Maybe my antenna just
works well for islands..

Somehow I managed to inadvertantly turn off SPLIT a couple of times.
Sheesh! everybody makes mistakes...


73,
Drew
AF2Z




On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:14:48 -0500 (EST), you wrote:

>Anyone having luck getting the DXpedition S9DX.
>
>I am struck out since Thursday, any K3 tips or are they just not getting 
>out?
>
>Don
>KD8NNU
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition S9DX

[Craig D. Smith]

A couple more tips:

They have been running very big splits at times, and tend to move around a
lot rather than sitting on one frequency.  I had the most luck by calling a
couple hundred Hz above or below their last contact.  If you have a P3, you
will find it to be quite beneficial in this regard!

73   Craig  AC0DS



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Re: [Elecraft] 64-bit Win 7 Prolific Driver install can't find inf file

[Cady, Fred]

Hi Bill (et. al.)
I followed and at first the driver wasn't recognized but after deleting
the driver and running the install (from prolific) again the driver is
recognized and installed.

Thanks.
Fred 
KE7X

Fred Cady
fcady at ieee dot org  

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill K9YEQ [mailto:k9...@live.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 6:09 PM
> To: Cady, Fred; 'Elecraft reflector'
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 64-bit Win 7 Prolific Driver install 
> can't find inf file
> 
> Fred,
> 
> DO your windows update found in start menu in control panel.  
> That should
> fix it.
> 
> Bill
> K9YEQ
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> Well I have a Win 7 64-bit op system and went to the Prolific 
> website and
> downloaded the driver for the USB-Serial adapter claimed to 
> be OK for Win 7
> 64-bit. The install failed because it couldn't read an inf file. Ideas
> anybody?
> Thanks,
> Fred
> KE7X
> 
> 
> Fred Cady
> fcady at ieee dot org
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition S9DX

[Craig D. Smith]

They should be workable, Don.  I struck out the entire first week with my
100 W and vertical in Colorado.  But now the crowd is thinning out nicely.
Worked them on 17, 20, 30 and 40 within the past 5 days.  The 30 and 40
contacts were within an hour yesterday.  The new Cameroon DXpedition should
also take off some of the pressure.  They are putting out a very nice signal
on 40 meters in the evening, I'd suggest you try them there.

Good Luck and 73 Craig   AC0DS



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Re: [Elecraft] Macro 101 for DM780

[Matt Zilmer]

If you bring up the K3 Utility and punch the Help menu, Dick's set up
a very thorough macro help page.  It contains many examples, some of
them contributed by the Field Test group.

The part of the Help system you want is called
"Command Tester / K3 Macros".

Might give that a try.  It is quite extensive.

73,
matt W6NIA

==


On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:08:34 -0500 (EST), you wrote:

>Dear List,
>
>I have figured out how to send some button commands to the K3 from the 
>radio panel in DM780 which is tied to HRD.
>
>What I do on digital mode is go to my widest filter to find a signal 
>that I want to work.  Then when on it I push the I/II button to go to 
>filer II where I have a narrow setting to eleminat the side signals.
>
>What I would like to do is built some specfic filter macros in DM780 to 
>select mutliple filter widths.  To take advangate of the DSP ability to 
>make almost any filter witdh that I want.
>
>Unfortunatly, it apears that my macro ability is equal to a "box of 
>rocks" .  At least I admit it, however once I get it, it sticks.
>
>I did find macros that folks wrote for other radios, but I can not for 
>the life of me figure out how to modify them for the K3.  So I am 
>looking at other places just with no luck.
>
>So please thanks in advance for the help.
>
>Don
>KD8NNU
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition S9DX

[W4CCS]

Worked them on 6 bands  since Thursday.. 12, 15, 20, 40, 80 and 160

W4CCS


On 2/12/2011 11:14 AM, gold...@charter.net wrote:
> Anyone having luck getting the DXpedition S9DX.
>
> I am struck out since Thursday, any K3 tips or are they just not getting
> out?
>
> Don
> KD8NNU
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] DXpedition S9DX

[Duncan Carter]

Worked them on cw on 80, 40, 30 since Thursday.  They had a big signal 
on 80 here in Colorado and good signal on other bands.

My rig K3 to a minimal vertical set of parallel, mostly shortened 
vertical dipoles, short inverted L on 80.

Dunc, W5DC

On 2/12/2011 9:14 AM, gold...@charter.net wrote:
> Anyone having luck getting the DXpedition S9DX.
>
> I am struck out since Thursday, any K3 tips or are they just not getting
> out?
>
> Don
> KD8NNU
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Split not available

[Bob Naumann]

While there may be some who on some rare occasions need VHF Cross-mode AND
Split at the same time, this is not a valid justification for the radio to
behave in the illogical way it does now. 

And, no, the VFOs should not be tied to each other all the time so changing
the VFO IND parameter is not the answer to this. There is also no need to
sync the VFOs when turning SPLIT OFF and that is not being suggested.

The current logic forces one to have to perform 3 completely unnecessary
steps to go to Split operation when VFOB is not on the same band/mode as
VFOA.  <<< This happens all the time!!!

Think about this: Is there any reason one would press and hold Split aside
from wanting the radio to be placed into SPLIT mode? I cannot imagine any
circumstance where you would deliberately press and hold SPLIT and not want
to go SPLIT.

Once again:  ***if VFOB is not on the same band/mode as VFOA***, and you
press and hold SPLIT [Step 1] (which clearly means you want to go SPLIT)
this should cause a VFOA-> VFOB and then turn on SPLIT all in one step.

The way it works now, is that when you try to do this, the radio will not do
anything but the VFOB display shows SPL/NA and you have to recognize that
this has happened [Step 2]. 

As it is now, when this happens, one has to then TAP VFOA->VFOB (STEP 3] to
make the VFOs the same, then Press and HOLD SPLIT (AGAIN) [Step 4] to go
SPLIT, and then set VFOB's frequency [Step 5]. You can then work the DX
[Step 6].

Again, ***IF and only IF VFOB is not on the same band/mode as VFOA***, here
are the 6 steps currently forced by this bad logic:

Step 1 - Press and Hold SPLIT
Step 2 - Recognize the SPL/NA message in the VFOB display
Step 3 - Tap VFO A - > VFO B
Step 4 - Press and Hold Split (Again)
Step 5 - Set the VFO B Frequency
Step 6 - Work the DX Station

There is no other way to do this ***if VFOB is not on the same band/mode as
VFOA***. 

The 3 extra steps, that the current logic forces are simply a waste of time.
If it worked the way I am hopeful it will someday, it would eliminate the
need to do Steps 2, 3, and 4.

Again: ***IF and only IF VFOB is not on the same band/mode as VFOA*** - it
would be like this:

Step 1 - Press and Hold SPLIT which also sets VFO A - > VFO B 
Step 2 - Set the VFO B Frequency
Step 3 - Work the DX Station

Much more efficient!

Again, when one presses and holds SPLIT, there is nothing else one could be
trying to do but to go SPLIT - if the VFOs must be on the same band to allow
that, then make them the same and turn on SPLIT, then dial up your VFOB
Frequency and work the DX!

73,

Bob W5OV


-Original Message-
From: Joe Subich, W4TV [mailto:li...@subich.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:10 AM
To: Bob Naumann; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split not available


If VFO B is not on the same band, you are correct.  However, there
are plenty of times that one might want to use cross mode split -
it is quite common in VHF operation.

You can avoid the "VFO on the wrong band" issue simply by setting
CONFIG:VFO IND = No.  Therefore again, making the VFOs synchronize
VFOs as the default operation when turning split on/off is a bad
idea.  Quite simply, I regularly use VFO B as a quick memory and
have a PF key for B -> A to take advantage of that.  Your "Make
VFO B = VFO A" when turning spit on/off would completely destroy
that capability.

Anyone who wants VFOs to synchronize when turning split on or off
can easily write their own "quick split" macro (tap, tap, hold).
There are several examples of such a macro in the archives of this
list and probably an example in the Help files for the K3 Utility.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2/12/2011 4:36 AM, Bob Naumann wrote:
> Joe,
>
> Again, ***if VFOB is not on the same band/mode as VFOA***, and you press
and
> hold SPLIT (which clearly means you want to go SPLIT) this should cause a
> VFOA->  VFOB and then turn on SPLIT.
>
> Please explain how this is a bad idea and under what circumstances this
> would cause a problem.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob W5OV
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Subich, W4TV [mailto:li...@subich.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:15 PM
> To: w...@w5ov.com
> Cc: Shel Radin KF0UR; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split not available
>
>
>> If the "Split" function were to include a A->B like I suggested
>> recently, this would not be an issue.
>   >
>   >  Some condemned this suggestion as a "bad" idea, but I doubt that they
>   >  operate much or they would know what a pain in the neck this is.
>
> No, I operate More than enough to know how much of a pain it would
> be if the VFOs were synchronized every time one turned split off -
> for example to move one VFO to a different pile-up.  Only to have
> lost the frequency saved in VFO B when returning to an original
> pile-up.
>
> Synchronizing VFOs every time the split status is changed is *still*
> a terrible idea but if you want to do that, you can use the K3 Macro
> capability to

[Elecraft] DXpedition S9DX

[goldtr8]

Anyone having luck getting the DXpedition S9DX.

I am struck out since Thursday, any K3 tips or are they just not getting 
out?

Don
KD8NNU


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Re: [Elecraft] General Digital Contesting Help

[goldtr8]

Thank you Pete, this is a tremendous amout of help at the sites listed. 
I can go at my reading pace to understand what is going on.

Don
KD8NNU


On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Pete Smith wrote:

> I'd suggest you take a look at some of the sample macro files that 
> K8UT has put on the N1MM Logger web site, at 
> .  As 
> an aid to deciphering, F1 is your CQ message, F2 is your exchange, F3 
> is the TU message used at the end of the QSO, and F4 is reserved for 
> your call.  F5 is his call.  In N1MM, your call is represented by * or 
> {MYCALL} and his call by !. The rest of the stuff in curly brackets is 
> additional automation provided by N1MM.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at 
> www.conteststations.com
> The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at 
> reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
> spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000
>
>
>
> On 2/11/2011 9:22 PM, gold...@charter.net wrote:
>> Group,
>>
>> I would like to attempt to try and do some digital contesting with my
>> K3.
>>
>> It took me a long time to get HRD and its associated software working
>> and I finally can use the DM780 software fairly good.
>>
>> What I am not able to figure out is the proper set of calls and
>> responses that contestors are looking for.
>>
>> So can someone point me in the proper direction on how to go about
>> understanding how contesting works and how to log.   I have been 
>> trying
>> to read up on the internet, but I am missing some basic points of
>> knowledge to pull it together.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>> Don
>> KD8NNU
>>
>>
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[Elecraft] Macro 101 for DM780

[goldtr8]

Dear List,

I have figured out how to send some button commands to the K3 from the 
radio panel in DM780 which is tied to HRD.

What I do on digital mode is go to my widest filter to find a signal 
that I want to work.  Then when on it I push the I/II button to go to 
filer II where I have a narrow setting to eleminat the side signals.

What I would like to do is built some specfic filter macros in DM780 to 
select mutliple filter widths.  To take advangate of the DSP ability to 
make almost any filter witdh that I want.

Unfortunatly, it apears that my macro ability is equal to a "box of 
rocks" .  At least I admit it, however once I get it, it sticks.

I did find macros that folks wrote for other radios, but I can not for 
the life of me figure out how to modify them for the K3.  So I am 
looking at other places just with no luck.

So please thanks in advance for the help.

Don
KD8NNU


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 wish list items

[Doug Turnbull]

I believe Stewart has two good suggestions.   Let me also say that I am very
pleased with the latest changes to the P3 firmware.  I often use my P3 on TB
to find a clear spot in the frequency range of those calling a DX station
during split operation.   Sometimes I place myself on the very edge and
sometimes there is a valley in the middle into which I slip.   The P3 also
proves useful in observing the commercial (?) signal sources on TB some of
which seem to be operating spread spectrum.   The P3 provides information at
a glance which allows me to better position myself on the band.   Thanks for
producing such a fine instrument and thanks very much for the updates which
have greatly enhanced the P3.   

For me the big advantage of Elecraft is that their products are near the top
end to start with but then they continue to improve in significant ways.
With the possible exception of Flex, I know of no other manufacturer so
attuned to their users needs and so interested in improvement of the
product.

Hats off to the good people in Elecraft, I wonder if a thesis could be
written on this company which might prove a guide to other manufacturers.
Elecraft is different in an exciting way - Forbes should do an article on
this innovative firm.

73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Stewart
Sent: 12 February 2011 12:09
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 wish list items

Over the last few weeks I have been enjoying my K3/P3 combination.

Overall it works very well and the P3 addition has been worth while.

Their are however a couple of things that I feel would improve it's use.

a) Being able to monitor your own signal on the P3 without needing to
disconnect the
 RS232 lead. With all the leads I have coming out from the K3/P3 I find that
inevitably
 one or more of them become disconnected in this operation.
Surely the K3 can halt the RS232 handshake.?

b) It would be nice to have a mode where MKR A and MKR B could be used to
calculate
 and display the delta frequency  between them. This would be useful for say
determining
 types of EMI i.e SMPSU, TV timebase or  PLT. Also it would be able to
measure signal
 bandwidths away from  the tuned frequency of the K3 .

73
Stewart G3RXQ


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Re: [Elecraft] General Digital Contesting Help

[Pete Smith]

I'd suggest you take a look at some of the sample macro files that K8UT 
has put on the N1MM Logger web site, at 
.  As 
an aid to deciphering, F1 is your CQ message, F2 is your exchange, F3 is 
the TU message used at the end of the QSO, and F4 is reserved for your 
call.  F5 is his call.  In N1MM, your call is represented by * or 
{MYCALL} and his call by !. The rest of the stuff in curly brackets is 
additional automation provided by N1MM.

73, Pete N4ZR

The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com
The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at 
reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000



On 2/11/2011 9:22 PM, gold...@charter.net wrote:
> Group,
>
> I would like to attempt to try and do some digital contesting with my
> K3.
>
> It took me a long time to get HRD and its associated software working
> and I finally can use the DM780 software fairly good.
>
> What I am not able to figure out is the proper set of calls and
> responses that contestors are looking for.
>
> So can someone point me in the proper direction on how to go about
> understanding how contesting works and how to log.   I have been trying
> to read up on the internet, but I am missing some basic points of
> knowledge to pull it together.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Don
> KD8NNU
>
>
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[Elecraft] P3 wish list items

[Stewart]

Over the last few weeks I have been enjoying my K3/P3 combination.

Overall it works very well and the P3 addition has been worth while.

Their are however a couple of things that I feel would improve it's use.

a) Being able to monitor your own signal on the P3 without needing to 
disconnect the
 RS232 lead. With all the leads I have coming out from the K3/P3 I find that 
inevitably
 one or more of them become disconnected in this operation.
Surely the K3 can halt the RS232 handshake.?

b) It would be nice to have a mode where MKR A and MKR B could be used to 
calculate
 and display the delta frequency  between them. This would be useful for say 
determining
 types of EMI i.e SMPSU, TV timebase or  PLT. Also it would be able to measure 
signal
 bandwidths away from  the tuned frequency of the K3 .

73
Stewart G3RXQ


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[Elecraft] Rigblaster M8 to K3 help

[Mike, W9QS]

I'm trying to install an older M8 with my K3 for PSK31.  I can't seem to find a 
chart anywhere as to the jumper configuration.  Any ideas?  It did work at one 
time with my old IC718.

Thanks in advance.

73,72

Mike, W9QS
EX: KN6TBP (1956), K1DGQ, DL4KM, K5LJN, W9FRR, W9KVF

K3, SP1

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Re: [Elecraft] Split not available

[Bob Naumann]

Joe,

Again, ***if VFOB is not on the same band/mode as VFOA***, and you press and
hold SPLIT (which clearly means you want to go SPLIT) this should cause a
VFOA-> VFOB and then turn on SPLIT.

Please explain how this is a bad idea and under what circumstances this
would cause a problem.

73,

Bob W5OV





-Original Message-
From: Joe Subich, W4TV [mailto:li...@subich.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:15 PM
To: w...@w5ov.com
Cc: Shel Radin KF0UR; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split not available


> If the "Split" function were to include a A->B like I suggested
> recently, this would not be an issue.
 >
 > Some condemned this suggestion as a "bad" idea, but I doubt that they
 > operate much or they would know what a pain in the neck this is.

No, I operate More than enough to know how much of a pain it would
be if the VFOs were synchronized every time one turned split off -
for example to move one VFO to a different pile-up.  Only to have
lost the frequency saved in VFO B when returning to an original
pile-up.

Synchronizing VFOs every time the split status is changed is *still*
a terrible idea but if you want to do that, you can use the K3 Macro
capability to build your own "quick split" macro without causing
inconvenience to others.

 > If VFO B is already on the same band and mode as VFO A, then just turn
 > Split on.
 >
 > I find that the second condition NEVER occurs.

I find the second condition is almost always the case and if it isn't
two quick presses of the Split button is all it takes.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2/11/2011 11:30 AM, w...@w5ov.com wrote:
> If the "Split" function were to include a A->B like I suggested recently,
> this would not be an issue.
>
> Some condemned this suggestion as a "bad" idea, but I doubt that they
> operate much or they would know what a pain in the neck this is.
>
> The logic should be:
> When Holding Split: if VFO B is not already on the same band and mode,
> then it should do a VFO A ->  VFO B, and then Split should be turned on.
>
> If VFO B is already on the same band and mode as VFO A, then just turn
> Split on.
>
> I find that the second condition NEVER occurs.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob W5OV
>
>
>
>>
>> Exactly.  I'm a new K3 owner (~1 week) and had the same issue a few days
>> into
>> ownership.VFO B was in a mode other than DATA A.
>>
>> To prevent it from happening again, I added a double tap of A->B to my
"go
>> to RTTY"  macro, which copies the mode of VFO A to VFO B, so both VFOs
are
>> always the proper mode.
>>
>> GL&  73,
>>
>> Shel  KF0UR
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