Re: [Elecraft] Fw: ESSB

2011-04-26 Thread Alan Bloom
I have the TX equalizer set to suppress the lows and emphasize the highs
to get a reasonably-flat RF spectrum with my voice.  Also I notch out
around 800 Hz since those frequencies are not important for voice
communications:

1   50 Hz -16 dB
2  100 Hz -16 dB
3  200 Hz -16 dB
4  400 Hz -10 dB
5  800 Hz -16 dB
6 1600 Hz   0 dB
7 2400 Hz  +3 dB
8 3200 Hz  -6 dB

With those settings my voice looks flat on a spectrum analyzer except
for the notch at 800 Hz.  I should point out that I'm using a
computer-type mic/headset which has flat frequency response.  With a
communications-type microphone you wouldn't need that extreme treble
boost.

The settings for non-ESSB SSB are the same except that #8 3200 Hz is +6
dB instead of -6 dB.  With those settings the ESSB and SSB spectra look
very similar.

Alan N1AL



On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 21:41 -0700, Rick Prather wrote:
 Alan,
 
 You make an interesting point!
 
 How do you have your EQ set in the setup you describe?
 
 Rick
 K6LE
 
 
 On 4/25/2011, at 8:38 , Alan Bloom wrote:
 
  and the TX equalizer
  set to limit the transmitted bandwidth to about what it would be using
  regular SSB. 
 


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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: ESSB

2011-04-26 Thread Alan Bloom
On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 23:30 -0700, Alan Bloom wrote:
 I have the TX equalizer set to suppress the lows and emphasize the highs
 to get a reasonably-flat RF spectrum with my voice.  Also I notch out
 around 800 Hz since those frequencies are not important for voice
 communications:
 
 1   50 Hz -16 dB
 2  100 Hz -16 dB
 3  200 Hz -16 dB
 4  400 Hz -10 dB
 5  800 Hz -16 dB
 6 1600 Hz   0 dB
 7 2400 Hz  +3 dB
 8 3200 Hz  -6 dB

I meant -16 dB for 3200 Hz.


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[Elecraft] KPA500 Connector - manual vs picture mismatch

2011-04-26 Thread Bill Coleman
The AUX connector in Figure 1 of the Rev A manual (a drawing) appears to be 
female.  It appears to match the RS232(PC) connector rendering in terms of M/F. 
 

The high res picture on the web site looks like the AUX1 connector (new name!?) 
is male - appears to match the RS232(XCVR) connector in terms of M/F.

Is the AUX connector a boy or a girl ??   :-)

THANKS!   73, Bill  N2BC



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[Elecraft] KPA500 Connector - manual vs picture mismatch *update*

2011-04-26 Thread Bill Coleman
I should have waited until I finished my coffee.

Update:  I see the chart on Rev A page 16 notes that the connector is indeed 
male.  However, the drawings in Figure 3 (page 19), and Figure 4 (page 20), all 
match Figure 1  appear to be female.


Original semi-foggy post:

The AUX connector in Figure 1 of the Rev A manual (a drawing) appears to be 
female.  It appears to match the RS232(PC) connector rendering in terms of M/F. 
 

The high res picture on the web site looks like the AUX1 connector (new name!?) 
is male - appears to match the RS232(XCVR) connector in terms of M/F.

Is the AUX connector a boy or a girl ??   :-)

THANKS!   73, Bill  N2BC
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Re: [Elecraft] SSB Net Frequency (14.316, etc.)

2011-04-26 Thread GDanner
Phil,
No problem in Georgia either.
Whatever you think works best.
George
AI4VZ
-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
. . .  I can certainly look for a new frequency for the Sunday net, but I 
don't see many
of the regular net check-in stations in the thread. 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread Cady, Fred
You can Hold CENTER and move the DX station's freq to the left edge of
the display and set SPAN so the pileup is spread across the whole
display. The two controls interact some but it is easy to do while you
are listening to figure out the operator's pattern. 

-Original Message-

Fixed-tune mode is excellent for pileups, except that all the
information is crowded into the right-hand half of the screen because
the DX operator is normally listening UP.

A very useful option would be a 'SPLIT UP' mode, like fixed-tune but
with VFO A fixed at one division from the left. That would allow us to
view the pile-up at the highest available resolution, spread across 9
divisions rather than 5.


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread Brian Alsop
You're going to do this while running a pileup 1000 callers deep?

DXpeditions exist to make QSO's, not watch TV.

If a DXpedition is having trouble making QSO's, a P3 isn't the answer. 
Improving their antenna(s) and being aware of propagation most likely is.

73 DE Brian/K3KO

On 4/26/2011 12:08, Cady, Fred wrote:
 You can Hold CENTER and move the DX station's freq to the left edge of
 the display and set SPAN so the pileup is spread across the whole
 display. The two controls interact some but it is easy to do while you
 are listening to figure out the operator's pattern.




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Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread Gary Gregory
Brian,

Most of the comment so far appears to be focused on the hunter, not the
DXpedition.

On the next effort we intend to use the P3 on a receiving station monitoring
bands we are not using at a particular time. Many Dxpeditions do not have a
huge number of operators. If you mean a Dxpedition to a rare and much sought
after entity then that is a different situation entirely. Some of these are
able to operate many if not all the bands and modes they are set up for,
others have to rationalise the number of bands and stations and with this
scenario a P3 would be of assistance.

SSTV for example is a mode just like digital, cw, phone and rtty and granted
it is not as common as the other more popular modes but it is a mode
nonetheless operated by many.

Advancing the P3 technology to encompass as many operational modes as
possible is a plus and should not be seen as a restriction right?

I have a request to send SSTV from our next effort and the computers are set
up for logging and it would be nice in the future to not have to take a
PC/Laptop for this.

But we will transmit SSTV images during this operation and we are making
arrangements to do this. Will it be popular, well I guess we will wait and
see how it goes and have a look at after the event.

It will be fun to do it though so I am looking forward to trying it out.

All the input so far has been positive and some good ideas have come up
already. It's all good eh?

73's to all,

Gary

On 26 April 2011 22:29, Brian Alsop als...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 You're going to do this while running a pileup 1000 callers deep?

 DXpeditions exist to make QSO's, not watch TV.

 If a DXpedition is having trouble making QSO's, a P3 isn't the answer.
 Improving their antenna(s) and being aware of propagation most likely is.

 73 DE Brian/K3KO

 On 4/26/2011 12:08, Cady, Fred wrote:
  You can Hold CENTER and move the DX station's freq to the left edge of
  the display and set SPAN so the pileup is spread across the whole
  display. The two controls interact some but it is easy to do while you
  are listening to figure out the operator's pattern.




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Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread Ian White GM3SEK

Fred wrote:
You can Hold CENTER and move the DX station's freq to the left edge of
the display and set SPAN so the pileup is spread across the whole
display. The two controls interact some but it is easy to do while you
are listening to figure out the operator's pattern.


Thanks, Fred, that works for me. (Jim's method also works, of course, 
but yours is closer to my normal habits.)

I already have four different SPAN settings pre-programmed into the 
function keys, and one of those is always close enough.



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 SSTV for example is a mode just like digital, cw, phone and rtty and
 granted it is not as common as the other more popular modes but it is
 a mode nonetheless operated by many.

SSTV is not recognized as a separate mode in the DXCC program - or as
far as I know in any major DX award program.  It counts as phone for
DXCC.  Why would any significant DXpedition waste time on a slow rate
mode?

 But we will transmit SSTV images during this operation and we are
 making arrangements to do this. Will it be popular, well I guess we
 will wait and see how it goes and have a look at after the event.

Will it be popular?  I would expect it to be *extremely unpopular*
- particularly if the location of the DXpedition is to any place on
the top 200 needed list.  Spending as much as 3 minutes per QSO
on SSTV when good operators can make ten times as many QSOs in the
same period on SSB/CW/RTTY makes any SSTV operation extremely unwise.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 4/26/2011 8:49 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
 Brian,

 Most of the comment so far appears to be focused on the hunter, not the
 DXpedition.

 On the next effort we intend to use the P3 on a receiving station monitoring
 bands we are not using at a particular time. Many Dxpeditions do not have a
 huge number of operators. If you mean a Dxpedition to a rare and much sought
 after entity then that is a different situation entirely. Some of these are
 able to operate many if not all the bands and modes they are set up for,
 others have to rationalise the number of bands and stations and with this
 scenario a P3 would be of assistance.

 SSTV for example is a mode just like digital, cw, phone and rtty and granted
 it is not as common as the other more popular modes but it is a mode
 nonetheless operated by many.

 Advancing the P3 technology to encompass as many operational modes as
 possible is a plus and should not be seen as a restriction right?

 I have a request to send SSTV from our next effort and the computers are set
 up for logging and it would be nice in the future to not have to take a
 PC/Laptop for this.

 But we will transmit SSTV images during this operation and we are making
 arrangements to do this. Will it be popular, well I guess we will wait and
 see how it goes and have a look at after the event.

 It will be fun to do it though so I am looking forward to trying it out.

 All the input so far has been positive and some good ideas have come up
 already. It's all good eh?

 73's to all,

 Gary

 On 26 April 2011 22:29, Brian Alsopals...@nc.rr.com  wrote:

 You're going to do this while running a pileup 1000 callers deep?

 DXpeditions exist to make QSO's, not watch TV.

 If a DXpedition is having trouble making QSO's, a P3 isn't the answer.
 Improving their antenna(s) and being aware of propagation most likely is.

 73 DE Brian/K3KO

 On 4/26/2011 12:08, Cady, Fred wrote:
 You can Hold CENTER and move the DX station's freq to the left edge of
 the display and set SPAN so the pileup is spread across the whole
 display. The two controls interact some but it is easy to do while you
 are listening to figure out the operator's pattern.




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Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread gary bartlett
My motivation in taking a P3 to CY0 was not to overcome difficulty in making
QSOs.  Based on two previous DXpeditions to CY0, I was more interested in
making my life a little easier in the face of unlimited and sustained
pile-ups which start to get to be a bit much after three or 4 days.   I
think the P3 would have done that for me, not to mention provided the other
features I mentioned earlier like, say, the ability to watch my own TX
frequency.  I always wanted to be my own frequency cop.  Or to defeat those
who think that tail-gating is the only way to make a Q in a pile-up.

There is another reason to use a P3 if, like me, one is used to operating at
home with a limited station and always being the weak signal.  When on a
trip I like to pick some of the small signal DX who one can guess are
equally deprived, and the P3 allows one to see those kinds of stations quite
easily in the pile-up.

No matter --- our friends from the opposite side of the planet are going to
provide us a report after their experiment.  Maybe we will discover that
ears are the only answer.

73,
Gary, VE1RGB



-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian Alsop
Sent: April 26, 2011 9:29 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

You're going to do this while running a pileup 1000 callers deep?

DXpeditions exist to make QSO's, not watch TV.

If a DXpedition is having trouble making QSO's, a P3 isn't the answer. 
Improving their antenna(s) and being aware of propagation most likely is.

73 DE Brian/K3KO

On 4/26/2011 12:08, Cady, Fred wrote:
 You can Hold CENTER and move the DX station's freq to the left edge of
 the display and set SPAN so the pileup is spread across the whole
 display. The two controls interact some but it is easy to do while you
 are listening to figure out the operator's pattern.




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Re: [Elecraft] ?change net frequency?

2011-04-26 Thread Alexander Sack
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Mike Rodgers
mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote:
 If there is consensus to change, I propose the possibility of 14.305.
 It's lightly used as far as I know. There are nets during the week from the 
 beautiful day net at 92 central time
 And some Saturday's. There's the west coast prestigious group net at 1pm 
 central. Not sure if they are on the weekend. Some of you west coasties may 
 know. Other than that it's fairly quiet. The 24hr maritime net is far enough 
 away at 14.300. Sometimes QRM from 14.307.5. If 14.304 would be far enough 
 from the maritime net, then itwould be better in case of activity on 14.307.5.



I know I might be in the minority but I complained about these tones
to Phil last week.  I have twice to get in on this net and its
untenable at 14.316.

I guess I am confused.  Why is it so hard to get a relatively free'ish
frequency at 2PM EST on 20m again (I guess above 14.225)?

-aps (KC2ZSX)
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)/DXpedition version of P3

2011-04-26 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
I would prefer the room for other things in the travel bag instead of 
the P3.  All of the things you would like to do can be done with the 
radio alone.  In split mode you can monitor your own transmit 
frequency.  There is not much you can do about what goes on there and 
the UP UP UP ers will probably beat you to the punch.

What I see that causes the most problems in pileups is the DX not IDing 
enough and not announcing their split enough.  Even then it does not 
matter as there a  growing number of ops that can't copy cw and just see 
a spot and send away as they don't understand what up is.  On RTTY T31A 
was sending UP every contact and still people continued to call on his 
xmit frequency.

Trying to work the weak guy is admirable but I don't see how the P3 is 
going to make that any easier.  All you need to do is set a split range 
and then let the masses who blindly call do that in that range and then 
pick out stations on the edges or above the split range.  You can tune 
around in your split range for lighter stations if you want.  If you can 
easily see the weak station in a pileup the pileup can't be that big.

Don't get me wrong I love my P3 as it has put a bunch of contacts in my 
log by being able to see the last station worked.

Maybe we need a DX-pedition version of the P3.  There is no reason the 
case needs to be as bit as it is.  If the case was shrunk down to a 
third of the size I might consider taking one.

On 4/26/2011 7:38 AM, gary bartlett wrote:
 My motivation in taking a P3 to CY0 was not to overcome difficulty in making
 QSOs.  Based on two previous DXpeditions to CY0, I was more interested in
 making my life a little easier in the face of unlimited and sustained
 pile-ups which start to get to be a bit much after three or 4 days.   I
 think the P3 would have done that for me, not to mention provided the other
 features I mentioned earlier like, say, the ability to watch my own TX
 frequency.  I always wanted to be my own frequency cop.  Or to defeat those
 who think that tail-gating is the only way to make a Q in a pile-up.

 There is another reason to use a P3 if, like me, one is used to operating at
 home with a limited station and always being the weak signal.  When on a
 trip I like to pick some of the small signal DX who one can guess are
 equally deprived, and the P3 allows one to see those kinds of stations quite
 easily in the pile-up.

 No matter --- our friends from the opposite side of the planet are going to
 provide us a report after their experiment.  Maybe we will discover that
 ears are the only answer.

 73,
 Gary, VE1RGB



 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian Alsop
 Sent: April 26, 2011 9:29 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

 You're going to do this while running a pileup 1000 callers deep?

 DXpeditions exist to make QSO's, not watch TV.

 If a DXpedition is having trouble making QSO's, a P3 isn't the answer.
 Improving their antenna(s) and being aware of propagation most likely is.

 73 DE Brian/K3KO

 On 4/26/2011 12:08, Cady, Fred wrote:
 You can Hold CENTER and move the DX station's freq to the left edge of
 the display and set SPAN so the pileup is spread across the whole
 display. The two controls interact some but it is easy to do while you
 are listening to figure out the operator's pattern.



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)/DXpedition version of P3

2011-04-26 Thread gary bartlett
To me it was all about easily providing the operator with alternatives to
nothing but the receiver alone that might ease the pressure of the
DXpedition workload.  That would have lead directly to increased throughput,
in which case everyone would win.  An experiment based on selfishness but
with fringe benefits, in other words. 

Like I said, I never got a chance to try it, but I do enough contesting and
DX work with the P3 that I was confident that I would gain something out of
it.   The P3 would have been the source of real-time, real-world, quickly
obtained, multi-band local propagation conditions to the other operators if
nothing else and a P3 on a DXpedition might be worth the weight for that
purpose alone, especially during QSB conditions when the waterfall is so
useful.  Band change decisions should have been easier.

That was my answer to the original question about why would one want to take
a P3 on a DXpedition.  Chacun à son gout.  There is no right or wrong answer
and I am in no position to provide hard evidence to support my own argument
:)  Anyone want to organize another CY0?

73,
Gary, VE1RGB

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Fatchett W0MU
Sent: April 26, 2011 11:58 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)/DXpedition
version of P3

I would prefer the room for other things in the travel bag instead of 
the P3.  All of the things you would like to do can be done with the 
radio alone.  In split mode you can monitor your own transmit 
frequency.  There is not much you can do about what goes on there and 
the UP UP UP ers will probably beat you to the punch.

What I see that causes the most problems in pileups is the DX not IDing 
enough and not announcing their split enough.  Even then it does not 
matter as there a  growing number of ops that can't copy cw and just see 
a spot and send away as they don't understand what up is.  On RTTY T31A 
was sending UP every contact and still people continued to call on his 
xmit frequency.

Trying to work the weak guy is admirable but I don't see how the P3 is 
going to make that any easier.  All you need to do is set a split range 
and then let the masses who blindly call do that in that range and then 
pick out stations on the edges or above the split range.  You can tune 
around in your split range for lighter stations if you want.  If you can 
easily see the weak station in a pileup the pileup can't be that big.

Don't get me wrong I love my P3 as it has put a bunch of contacts in my 
log by being able to see the last station worked.

Maybe we need a DX-pedition version of the P3.  There is no reason the 
case needs to be as bit as it is.  If the case was shrunk down to a 
third of the size I might consider taking one.

On 4/26/2011 7:38 AM, gary bartlett wrote:
 My motivation in taking a P3 to CY0 was not to overcome difficulty in
making
 QSOs.  Based on two previous DXpeditions to CY0, I was more interested in
 making my life a little easier in the face of unlimited and sustained
 pile-ups which start to get to be a bit much after three or 4 days.   I
 think the P3 would have done that for me, not to mention provided the
other
 features I mentioned earlier like, say, the ability to watch my own TX
 frequency.  I always wanted to be my own frequency cop.  Or to defeat
those
 who think that tail-gating is the only way to make a Q in a pile-up.

 There is another reason to use a P3 if, like me, one is used to operating
at
 home with a limited station and always being the weak signal.  When on a
 trip I like to pick some of the small signal DX who one can guess are
 equally deprived, and the P3 allows one to see those kinds of stations
quite
 easily in the pile-up.

 No matter --- our friends from the opposite side of the planet are going
to
 provide us a report after their experiment.  Maybe we will discover that
 ears are the only answer.

 73,
 Gary, VE1RGB



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 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian Alsop
 Sent: April 26, 2011 9:29 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

 You're going to do this while running a pileup 1000 callers deep?

 DXpeditions exist to make QSO's, not watch TV.

 If a DXpedition is having trouble making QSO's, a P3 isn't the answer.
 Improving their antenna(s) and being aware of propagation most likely is.

 73 DE Brian/K3KO

 On 4/26/2011 12:08, Cady, Fred wrote:
 You can Hold CENTER and move the DX station's freq to the left edge of
 the display and set SPAN so the pileup is spread across the whole
 display. The two controls interact some but it is easy to do while you
 are listening to figure out the operator's pattern.



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Connector - manual vs picture mismatch *update*

2011-04-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Hi Bill: There are only two ways to represent the connection points when
looking straight at the connectors - a solid dot or an open circle. The
solid dots indicate pins (males) and the open circle indicates sockets
(females).

Ron AC7AC 



-Original Message-

I should have waited until I finished my coffee.

Update:  I see the chart on Rev A page 16 notes that the connector is indeed
male.  However, the drawings in Figure 3 (page 19), and Figure 4 (page 20),
all match Figure 1  appear to be female.


Original semi-foggy post:

The AUX connector in Figure 1 of the Rev A manual (a drawing) appears to be
female.  It appears to match the RS232(PC) connector rendering in terms of
M/F.  

The high res picture on the web site looks like the AUX1 connector (new
name!?) is male - appears to match the RS232(XCVR) connector in terms of
M/F.

Is the AUX connector a boy or a girl ??   :-)

THANKS!   73, Bill  N2BC
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Re: [Elecraft] ESSB

2011-04-26 Thread DL5OCD
Hello Van,
i have had measured the K3 with Spectogram with the same results like you
discribed. The BW is abt 15% higher than the adjusted level. Reported that
behaviour to Elecraft a long time ago.


Hope that helps
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[Elecraft] K3EXREF UPDATE

2011-04-26 Thread Richard Thorpe
Is there any word out there in Elecraft land as to when the K3EXREF will be 
available? Thanks.

K6CG
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Connector - manual vs picture mismatch *update*

2011-04-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Okay Bill, I can't claim to be coffee deprived but I didn't see the problem
at first. 

On the KPA500 rear panel: 

RS232 (PC) is female.
RS232 (XCVR) is male.
AUX1 is male. 

The drawings need to be corrected. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
Hi Bill: There are only two ways to represent the connection points when
looking straight at the connectors - a solid dot or an open circle. The
solid dots indicate pins (males) and the open circle indicates sockets
(females).

Ron AC7AC 



-Original Message-

I should have waited until I finished my coffee.

Update:  I see the chart on Rev A page 16 notes that the connector is indeed
male.  However, the drawings in Figure 3 (page 19), and Figure 4 (page 20),
all match Figure 1  appear to be female.


Original semi-foggy post:

The AUX connector in Figure 1 of the Rev A manual (a drawing) appears to be
female.  It appears to match the RS232(PC) connector rendering in terms of
M/F.  

The high res picture on the web site looks like the AUX1 connector (new
name!?) is male - appears to match the RS232(XCVR) connector in terms of
M/F.

Is the AUX connector a boy or a girl ??   :-)

THANKS!   73, Bill  N2BC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF UPDATE

2011-04-26 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Approximately 2-3 weeks. Its in production right now.

I'll have it up on the web site for ordering within a week.

73, Eric


On 4/26/2011 10:32 AM, Richard Thorpe wrote:
 Is there any word out there in Elecraft land as to when the K3EXREF will be 
 available? Thanks.

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)/DXpedition version of P3

2011-04-26 Thread gary bartlett

Let me be quick to counter any unintended tone of bitterness regarding my
good friend Randy N0TG and the CY0 DXpedition that most recently happened.
It was clearly my choice not to go on the final trip.  

73,
Gary, VE1RGB


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of gary bartlett
Sent: April 26, 2011 12:36 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)/DXpedition
version of P3

To me it was all about easily providing the operator with alternatives to
nothing but the receiver alone that might ease the pressure of the
DXpedition workload.  That would have lead directly to increased throughput,
in which case everyone would win.  An experiment based on selfishness but
with fringe benefits, in other words. 

Like I said, I never got a chance to try it, but I do enough contesting and
DX work with the P3 that I was confident that I would gain something out of
it.   The P3 would have been the source of real-time, real-world, quickly
obtained, multi-band local propagation conditions to the other operators if
nothing else and a P3 on a DXpedition might be worth the weight for that
purpose alone, especially during QSB conditions when the waterfall is so
useful.  Band change decisions should have been easier.

That was my answer to the original question about why would one want to take
a P3 on a DXpedition.  Chacun à son gout.  There is no right or wrong answer
and I am in no position to provide hard evidence to support my own argument
:)  Anyone want to organize another CY0?

73,
Gary, VE1RGB

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Fatchett W0MU
Sent: April 26, 2011 11:58 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)/DXpedition
version of P3

I would prefer the room for other things in the travel bag instead of 
the P3.  All of the things you would like to do can be done with the 
radio alone.  In split mode you can monitor your own transmit 
frequency.  There is not much you can do about what goes on there and 
the UP UP UP ers will probably beat you to the punch.

What I see that causes the most problems in pileups is the DX not IDing 
enough and not announcing their split enough.  Even then it does not 
matter as there a  growing number of ops that can't copy cw and just see 
a spot and send away as they don't understand what up is.  On RTTY T31A 
was sending UP every contact and still people continued to call on his 
xmit frequency.

Trying to work the weak guy is admirable but I don't see how the P3 is 
going to make that any easier.  All you need to do is set a split range 
and then let the masses who blindly call do that in that range and then 
pick out stations on the edges or above the split range.  You can tune 
around in your split range for lighter stations if you want.  If you can 
easily see the weak station in a pileup the pileup can't be that big.

Don't get me wrong I love my P3 as it has put a bunch of contacts in my 
log by being able to see the last station worked.

Maybe we need a DX-pedition version of the P3.  There is no reason the 
case needs to be as bit as it is.  If the case was shrunk down to a 
third of the size I might consider taking one.

On 4/26/2011 7:38 AM, gary bartlett wrote:
 My motivation in taking a P3 to CY0 was not to overcome difficulty in
making
 QSOs.  Based on two previous DXpeditions to CY0, I was more interested in
 making my life a little easier in the face of unlimited and sustained
 pile-ups which start to get to be a bit much after three or 4 days.   I
 think the P3 would have done that for me, not to mention provided the
other
 features I mentioned earlier like, say, the ability to watch my own TX
 frequency.  I always wanted to be my own frequency cop.  Or to defeat
those
 who think that tail-gating is the only way to make a Q in a pile-up.

 There is another reason to use a P3 if, like me, one is used to operating
at
 home with a limited station and always being the weak signal.  When on a
 trip I like to pick some of the small signal DX who one can guess are
 equally deprived, and the P3 allows one to see those kinds of stations
quite
 easily in the pile-up.

 No matter --- our friends from the opposite side of the planet are going
to
 provide us a report after their experiment.  Maybe we will discover that
 ears are the only answer.

 73,
 Gary, VE1RGB



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 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian Alsop
 Sent: April 26, 2011 9:29 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

 You're going to do this while running a pileup 1000 callers deep?

 DXpeditions exist to make QSO's, not watch TV.

 If a DXpedition is having trouble making QSO's, a P3 isn't the answer.
 Improving 

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)/DXpedition version of P3

2011-04-26 Thread Cady, Fred
W0MU wrote:
 Maybe we need a DX-pedition version of the P3.  There is no reason the
 case needs to be as bit as it is.  If the case was shrunk down to a
 third of the size I might consider taking one.

Oooh, there's a cool idea. That ought to be pretty easy to do.

I think there is a use for it, particularly on a contest expedition.

Cheers,

Fred
KE7X
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[Elecraft] writelog k3 transmit every scond

2011-04-26 Thread rdonner @dslextreme.com
Hi
  I wonder if anyone knows why my k3 keeps beeping ( transmitting short
bursts continously)
I was able to stop it by unchecking the  polling  box in Writelog ver 10.82
I did not have this trouble with an older version of  Writelog
Thanks
Richard   wa6kyr
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)/DXpedition version of P3

2011-04-26 Thread Nick Marsh
Write an app for an iPad or Android device.

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI



On Apr 26, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote:

 W0MU wrote:
 Maybe we need a DX-pedition version of the P3.  There is no reason the
 case needs to be as bit as it is.  If the case was shrunk down to a
 third of the size I might consider taking one.
 
 Oooh, there's a cool idea. That ought to be pretty easy to do.
 
 I think there is a use for it, particularly on a contest expedition.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Fred
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread Gary Gregory
Joe,

I am certainly NOT going anywhere on the top 200 list. Where we are going is
a unique place in VK and most likely the transmissions will be on NON DX
bands to a station in VK to get the pics posted.

I don't think too many people will even notice mate.

Gary

On 26 April 2011 23:35, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


  SSTV for example is a mode just like digital, cw, phone and rtty and
  granted it is not as common as the other more popular modes but it is
  a mode nonetheless operated by many.

 SSTV is not recognized as a separate mode in the DXCC program - or as
 far as I know in any major DX award program.  It counts as phone for
 DXCC.  Why would any significant DXpedition waste time on a slow rate
 mode?

  But we will transmit SSTV images during this operation and we are
  making arrangements to do this. Will it be popular, well I guess we
  will wait and see how it goes and have a look at after the event.

 Will it be popular?  I would expect it to be *extremely unpopular*
 - particularly if the location of the DXpedition is to any place on
 the top 200 needed list.  Spending as much as 3 minutes per QSO
 on SSTV when good operators can make ten times as many QSOs in the
 same period on SSB/CW/RTTY makes any SSTV operation extremely unwise.

 73,

... Joe, W4TV

 On 4/26/2011 8:49 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
  Brian,
 
  Most of the comment so far appears to be focused on the hunter, not the
  DXpedition.
 
  On the next effort we intend to use the P3 on a receiving station
 monitoring
  bands we are not using at a particular time. Many Dxpeditions do not have
 a
  huge number of operators. If you mean a Dxpedition to a rare and much
 sought
  after entity then that is a different situation entirely. Some of these
 are
  able to operate many if not all the bands and modes they are set up for,
  others have to rationalise the number of bands and stations and with this
  scenario a P3 would be of assistance.
 
  SSTV for example is a mode just like digital, cw, phone and rtty and
 granted
  it is not as common as the other more popular modes but it is a mode
  nonetheless operated by many.
 
  Advancing the P3 technology to encompass as many operational modes as
  possible is a plus and should not be seen as a restriction right?
 
  I have a request to send SSTV from our next effort and the computers are
 set
  up for logging and it would be nice in the future to not have to take a
  PC/Laptop for this.
 
  But we will transmit SSTV images during this operation and we are making
  arrangements to do this. Will it be popular, well I guess we will wait
 and
  see how it goes and have a look at after the event.
 
  It will be fun to do it though so I am looking forward to trying it out.
 
  All the input so far has been positive and some good ideas have come up
  already. It's all good eh?
 
  73's to all,
 
  Gary
 
  On 26 April 2011 22:29, Brian Alsopals...@nc.rr.com  wrote:
 
  You're going to do this while running a pileup 1000 callers deep?
 
  DXpeditions exist to make QSO's, not watch TV.
 
  If a DXpedition is having trouble making QSO's, a P3 isn't the answer.
  Improving their antenna(s) and being aware of propagation most likely
 is.
 
  73 DE Brian/K3KO
 
  On 4/26/2011 12:08, Cady, Fred wrote:
  You can Hold CENTER and move the DX station's freq to the left edge of
  the display and set SPAN so the pileup is spread across the whole
  display. The two controls interact some but it is easy to do while you
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[Elecraft] [QRO] KPA500 PIN diodes / High SWR

2011-04-26 Thread W5UXH
Back in Feb, Guy (K2AV) wondered in another thread:
--
I still wonder what happens to the KPA500 pin diodes when you open with a
dit into an unterminated coax and a 20:1 SWR.  Wayne and Co are working
their magic into a problem that has taken most amps down. 
--

I would also like to know if they have been able to provide sufficient
protection, magical though it would be.  That would be a terrific selling
point.  I know I will eventually hit the key while in a confused state with
the KPA500.   

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Re: [Elecraft] [QRO] KPA500 PIN diodes / High SWR

2011-04-26 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi Chuck,

We immediately protect the amp by going into bypass mode. The 
microprocessor detects the extreme SWR event and immediately routes the 
drive signal around the amp, initially though the diodes, and then 
through the bypass relay after it has switched. This happens in a few 
milliseconds.

While I do not recommend this as a normal operation test, we even have 
pulled the coax out of the dummy load at 500W during tx to test this, 
with no ill effects. (If you were at our contest university demo in 
Italy, you may know how I know this..  ;-)

We have not been able to kill the t/r diodes during lab destructive 
testing or in on-air operation.

73, Eric  WA6HHQ


On 4/26/2011 5:29 PM, W5UXH wrote:
 Back in Feb, Guy (K2AV) wondered in another thread:
 --
 I still wonder what happens to the KPA500 pin diodes when you open with a
 dit into an unterminated coax and a 20:1 SWR.  Wayne and Co are working
 their magic into a problem that has taken most amps down.
 --

 I would also like to know if they have been able to provide sufficient
 protection, magical though it would be.  That would be a terrific selling
 point.  I know I will eventually hit the key while in a confused state with
 the KPA500.

 Chuck, W5UXH
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread N6JW
Hi Brian, et al:

Perhaps the experience of someone who has actually taken a P3 on
a DX operation might be of some interest.

I returned early February from a month and a half trip to Southern
Africa.  While not a dxpedition per se, the trip did include a single-
handed, but serious, operation from a moderately rare DXCC entity 
(7P8, the Kingdom of Lesotho).  I would like to comment on two 
issues that have arisen in this thread: is the P3 a useful aid to the 
operator running the DX station?; and how difficult is it to take it 
along, space-wise?  In essence, is it worth it?

This trip balanced visiting family (parent's 60th wedding anniversary),
business (research), vacation (a 4x4 safari through Botswana and 
Zimbabwe), and ham radio (as ZS1WN, and 7P8JW).  The stay in 
7P8 (the landlocked mountain kingdom of Lesotho) lasted a week and
I was able to make more than 3,500 contacts from 7P8 alone.

Travel parameters were such that I only took along what would fit
within the normal international baggage allowance.  After necessary
stuff like clothes (for warm and cold; including a suit, jackets  ties), 
and a computer--I was able to take TWO complete high performance 
HF stations (K3/P3; K2-100/KAT100) in CARRY-ON luggage (thank 
you, Elecraft!).  My first checked piece was a padded golf bag, which 
contained: a 5 band Spiderbeam yagi (14 wire elements on a 33' 
boom); 33' aluminum telescoping mast; and a 40' fiberglass mast 
for an inverted L for the low bands; together with all the required 
guying ropes, stakes, etc.  The rest of my personal belongings (and 
some other radio stuff!) went in a second allowed checked bag.  

My carry-on aluminum-sided case (el cheapo from Home Depot) was
originally used for trips with the K2/100 + KAT100, and had space 
left over for the power supply (Astron SS30), headset, cables etc.  
However, I found that the K3 and P3 were an exact fit for the case.  
So, I downsized the PS (to a very small/light Powerwerx 30 amp
switcher), put it in the golf bag, and took the K3/P3 in the case. 
Since I did not want to use the K3 mobile or on safari, I managed 
to slip the K2/KAT100 and a second PS (Gamma Research HPS-1a, 
even smaller and lighter), and some of the other stuff into the 
computer bag along with the Macbook Pro!

[Yes, you have to take the ham radio side of things, at least, semi-
seriously to be willing to do this!  But, no, I had no trouble at all
with security at any airport (trip included 8 flights), and paid no
excess baggage allowance at all.  Yes, I was fortunate that South
African Airways allowed an additional 20 pounds for the golf bag, 
i.e. 70 instead of the normal 50 per bag, but I checked this out
ahead of time.  The K3/P3 case was right on the carry-on weight 
limit, and the computer bag was over weight, but nobody checked
it.  If they did, my backup plan was my dear wife (who was putting
up with me lugging all this stuff around rather well!, and had room 
to spare in her carry-on bag), but as it turned out this was not 
necessary.]

Am I glad that I took all this stuff?  Absolutely.  I used the K2/100
and KAT100 to very good effect while operating mobile/portable.  I
was able to consistently work LONG PATH (some 14,500 miles, over
the Indian Ocean, Australia, and the Pacific) into the western USA 
on 40m SSB, from the coast near Cape Town.  This is running 100w
off the rental car's battery, with a magentic mounted Hustler mobile 
antenna!  [Secret: getting within a quarter wave length of the salt 
water, and a clear shot over the ocean.] 

I used the K3/P3 combo while operating from 7P8.  I could have 
used the K2 but I believe the K3 helped me make significantly more
contacts.  I have the second RX, ATU, DVR [and 2m transverter] 
in my K3 (which has 6 roofing filters between the 2 receivers).  

I found the P3 to be useful in the following ways:

1. To instantly get a sense if a band is open by quickly switching to
it and getting a look at activity over a 200 khz span.  You have to 
try this to realize how much better it is than spinning the dial.  
Having the waterfall display on, increased this benefit significantly.

2. Finding the right place to start calling.  It is amazing how much
more helpful seeing the spectrum as a whole is to simply listening
up and down.  You have no idea how much you miss when you do
not have the time dimension included.

3. Watching what is happening on my transmit frequency, so that
I can devote my full attention to getting the callsigns pulled out of
the pileup, without the distraction of listening to my TX freq. as
well.

4. Helping to discipline the pileup by first seeing/noticing, and 
then ignoring, bad behavior.  [Of course, sometimes you must 
work the offenders to make them go away].  It is interesting how
you can tell who is calling without hearing you; tail-ending; loading
up right on the pileup and then calling you.  

5. Helps find stations calling you in the pileup window (particularly
on CW when the pileup 

Re: [Elecraft] [QRO] KPA500 PIN diodes / High SWR

2011-04-26 Thread W5UXH
Hi Eric,

That is what I hoped to hear.  I also had a response off list from a
dedicated tester who tested this.  It is good to know there is a good
chance of surviving an occasional oops.

73,

Chuck, W5UXH


Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 
 Hi Chuck,
 
 We immediately protect the amp by going into bypass mode. The 
 microprocessor detects the extreme SWR event and immediately routes the 
 drive signal around the amp, initially though the diodes, and then 
 through the bypass relay after it has switched. This happens in a few 
 milliseconds.
 
 While I do not recommend this as a normal operation test, we even have 
 pulled the coax out of the dummy load at 500W during tx to test this, 
 with no ill effects. (If you were at our contest university demo in 
 Italy, you may know how I know this..  ;-)
 
 We have not been able to kill the t/r diodes during lab destructive 
 testing or in on-air operation.
 
 73, Eric  WA6HHQ
 


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[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.36: QRQ mode auto-on/off when using SPLIT/RIT/XIT (etc.)

2011-04-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.36 (with DSP rev. 2.73) is now  
available. See release notes below.

Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions  
on how to load beta firmware, see:

  http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *

MCU 4.36 / DSP 2.73, 4-20-2011

* SUPPORT FOR KPA500 BAND CHANGE, FAULT/STATUS, and POWER CONTROL.

* QRQ CW AUTO-OFF ON SPLIT/RIT/XIT: QRQ CW is now
automatically turned off whenever you turn on SPLIT, RIT, or XIT.
You’ll see QRQ OFF flashed on VFO B. QRQ mode is restored if
you turn these off. (For QRQ CW details, see Rev. 4.03 notes.)

* REVERSE (REV) FOR FM/REPEAT IS PERMANENT: Pressing
REV when in FM mode with a repeater offset (+/-) selected now
permanently swaps RX/TX frequencies and reverses the repeater
offset direction. You do not have to continue to hold the REV switch.

* 2-METER MODULE “S9” METER LEVEL ADJUSTED: The “S9”
level on the K3’s S-meter now occurs with an input signal level of
-93 dBm when the K144XV is selected. (This is a recognized
standard on bands from 2 meters up. On other bands, “S9” still
occurs at -73 dBm.) Notes: (1) The K3’s S-meter may not go all the
way to S0 on this band because of the high preamp gain on the
K144XV module. (2) If you have SMTR MD set to NOR, the S-meter
reading will vary with the settings of the PRE and ATTN controls.

* FRONT PANEL MIC PREAMP GAIN CONTROL: The front panel
mic preamp has a high-gain setting that is now accessible. (This is
independent the present “mic boost” DSP function.) If you use a
low-output mic element, you may benefit from the high-gain setting.
It should not be used with normal-level mics, as gain may be excessive.
In MIC SEL (MAIN menu), use VFO A to select the front-panel
mic (FP), then tap ‘7’ on the keypad to select high preamp gain.
A “high bar” symbol will appear to the right of the mic boost
character (L or H). As a reminder, DSP mic boost (H, or Hi) can be
turned on/off by tapping ‘1’ on the keypad. Bias is controlled by ‘2’.

* EXTERNAL 10-MHZ REFERENCE SUPPORT (K3EXREF).

Remote-Control/Switch Macro Command Changes:

* AP COMMAND TURNS APF ON/OFF: You can turn the CW
audio peaking filter on/off by sending “AP1;” or “AP0;”, respectively.
Applies only in CW mode with CONFIG:DUAL PB set to APF. (Not
yet available for direct sub receiver control. Swap VFOs or do AB
copy in order to set up sub receiver APF.) You can use this
command to create a TAP function to turn APF on/off; use the Help
function in K3 Utility for details on macros.

* BG COMMAND USEABLE IN TX MODE: Reads PWR or ALC
depending on METER setting. Note: In RX mode, BG returns up
to 21 with CWT off, but only up to 09 with CWT on. Also, at
present there is no way to read CWT, SWR, or CMP.

* CHANNEL HOPPING CANCELLED ON FA/FB BAND CHANGE.

* UP  DN REMOTE COMMANDS NOW UPDATE P3.

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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Report (4/24/11)

2011-04-26 Thread Phillip Shepard
Here are the stations that checked into the SSB net last Sunday.  Thanks to
Ken, KO5Y, for the net control duties with help as noted.  Watch for a
change of frequency for this week's net.  I'll announce that in a few days.

73,

Phil, NS7P

+++


A special thank you to N6JW, John in CA and W4RKS,
Jim in AL for their help with the net relays.
Note: the KPA 500 can be seen on YouTube.

STATION   NAME QTH   SER #

W8YMOHarry   OH 166
N6JWJohnCA 936
WB8RAE   Bill  NY 2389 K3
AI4VZGeorgeGA 2412
K6DSW Don CA 3138 K3

W8OV   DaveTX  3139 K3
W5ETJ  GaryTX  3227 K3
K4CCH  CharlesGA3509 K3
W4RKS Jim  AL 3618 K3
NT5Q Don NM4179 K3

KO5YKen NM 4442 K3
N1IRB   ScottCT 4555
KE4WY Jim  KY 4864
K1NW   BrianRI  4974
N2HMM JohnNJ 5033
WT5Y   John TX  7138 K2




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