Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Noise Reduction

2012-05-26 Thread Bill Tubbs
Okay, you can have to be done.. I have to add to be determined to my to be 
developed which is in all the military planning manuals I have (and have 
read). I can't seem to find to be done as a common initialism, even on a 
routine internet search, but if you've used it then it must be ok ;-)

Yep, silly topic to continue.

 Hey, how 'bout those KX3s?!

Bill
WK6A

Sent from my iPhone

On May 25, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote:

 A silly thing to debate -- but, it has always meant To Be Done.  In fact, I 
 have never known any other definition in the world of computer programming 
 where it is often used as a comment to a section of code.  So, at least for 
 programming, To Be Done is it.  Always has been since I started programming 
 in 1965 (and, I am still programming and I still put TBD in code comments 
 every now and then).
 
 But, a slight comment nod to Ron (AC7AC).  I think that TBD is more 
 accurately called an initialism and not an acronym.  An acronym is a word 
 formed by letters of a phrase or sentence such as sonar or radar.  Thus, an 
 acronym can be pronounced and used as a word.  An initialism is a set of 
 letters that are usually not pronounced or they receive a pronunciation from 
 common practice.  For example, CEO, HTML, and SQL are all initialisms.  And, 
 SQL has a common practice of pronunciation of Sequel although technically 
 that is not correct and I believe the SQL standard stipulates this.  Sequel 
 is actually the name of a similar language developed by IBM that preceded SQL.
 
 Enough debate there is a CW contest to going on.
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
 
 
 On May 25, 2012, at 7:46 PM, Bill Tubbs wrote:
 
 Since I was a kid in the 60s TBD has meant To Be Developed, particularly 
 in the military. Never heard it as to be done but I suppose there are 
 always regional differences. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 25, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote:
 
 Actually, I have for half a century known TBD to be an acronym for To Be 
 Done. In this case the development of the code is likely complete. What 
 remains to be done is to integrate it with the rest of the KX3 code, test 
 and debug any unintended interactions. 
 
 73, Ron AC7AC
 
 -Original Message-
 
 
 TBD...acronym from to be deremined I think, check if you have latest 
 firmware loaded on it
 
 
 VE3GNO Daniel
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Text Decoder

2012-05-26 Thread David Gilbert


Compared to what?  CW is difficult to decode, even when sent by 
machine.  What piece of software or equipment have you used that you 
thought worked better than the K3?

RTTY decodes better by machine because that's what it was designed for.  
Morse code wasn't.  If you're disappointed in the K3 text decoder, the 
guy you probably want to complain to is long dead.

Dave   AB7E



On 5/25/2012 9:13 PM, John_N1JM wrote:
 I'm a little disappointed in the text decoder for cw. It works fine for rtty.
 Anyone got any comments about this?

 73, John N1JM

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[Elecraft] KX3 Receive Side Band Calabration, Owner's Manual R B2

2012-05-26 Thread John Lally
I notice in the owner's manual R b2 there are not detailed directions for
configuration of receive side band.   The directions say  Please refer to
the instruction sheet supplied

with the KXFL3 option.  I notice in owner's manual R b1, detailed
instructions are included for configuration of receive side band.

 

Does anyone have a copy of the instruction sheet which is included with the
KXFL3 option?  If so,  would you please publish it on the discussion list.

 

Thanks

 

John Lally

W7JJL

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Text Decoder

2012-05-26 Thread Fred Smith
Contests are one time you can use decoders for CW and have them work fine I
have done so for 4 years. In contests 95+% of all contacts are machine
canned code anyway using macros and a good reader will do the job. I have
several thousand Q's doing it this way and I don't even own a key. Do I have
100% copy no but the percentage is better than 85-90% acceptable for me to
be able to dabble in all the CW contests.

Fred/N0AZZ

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Gilbert
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 2:32 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Text Decoder



Compared to what?  CW is difficult to decode, even when sent by machine.
What piece of software or equipment have you used that you thought worked
better than the K3?

RTTY decodes better by machine because that's what it was designed for.  
Morse code wasn't.  If you're disappointed in the K3 text decoder, the guy
you probably want to complain to is long dead.

Dave   AB7E



On 5/25/2012 9:13 PM, John_N1JM wrote:
 I'm a little disappointed in the text decoder for cw. It works fine for
rtty.
 Anyone got any comments about this?

 73, John N1JM

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Re: [Elecraft] TBD

2012-05-26 Thread David Gilbert

In my more than thirty years of program management and contract work in 
industry it always meant either to be determined or to be defined.   
A little Google searching (use the keywords acronym TBD) shows to be 
determined as the dominant interpretation:

http://www.abbreviations.com/TBD

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_the_acronym_TBD_mean

http://www.ask.com/questions-about/What-Does-TBD-Means

http://www.acronymfinder.com/Military-and-Government/TBD.html

http://www.acronymfinder.com/TBD.html

73,
Dave  AB7E



On 5/26/2012 12:13 AM, Bill Tubbs wrote:
 Okay, you can have to be done.. I have to add to be determined to my to 
 be developed which is in all the military planning manuals I have (and have 
 read). I can't seem to find to be done as a common initialism, even on a 
 routine internet search, but if you've used it then it must be ok ;-)

 Yep, silly topic to continue.

   Hey, how 'bout those KX3s?!

 Bill
 WK6A

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 25, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Phil Hystadphys...@mac.com  wrote:

 A silly thing to debate -- but, it has always meant To Be Done.  In fact, 
 I have never known any other definition in the world of computer programming 
 where it is often used as a comment to a section of code.  So, at least for 
 programming, To Be Done is it.  Always has been since I started programming 
 in 1965 (and, I am still programming and I still put TBD in code comments 
 every now and then).

 But, a slight comment nod to Ron (AC7AC).  I think that TBD is more 
 accurately called an initialism and not an acronym.  An acronym is a word 
 formed by letters of a phrase or sentence such as sonar or radar.  Thus, an 
 acronym can be pronounced and used as a word.  An initialism is a set of 
 letters that are usually not pronounced or they receive a pronunciation from 
 common practice.  For example, CEO, HTML, and SQL are all initialisms.  And, 
 SQL has a common practice of pronunciation of Sequel although technically 
 that is not correct and I believe the SQL standard stipulates this.  Sequel 
 is actually the name of a similar language developed by IBM that preceded 
 SQL.

 Enough debate there is a CW contest to going on.

 73, phil, K7PEH


 On May 25, 2012, at 7:46 PM, Bill Tubbs wrote:

 Since I was a kid in the 60s TBD has meant To Be Developed, particularly 
 in the military. Never heard it as to be done but I suppose there are 
 always regional differences.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 25, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Ron D'Eau Clairer...@cobi.biz  wrote:

 Actually, I have for half a century known TBD to be an acronym for To Be 
 Done. In this case the development of the code is likely complete. What 
 remains to be done is to integrate it with the rest of the KX3 code, test 
 and debug any unintended interactions.

 73, Ron AC7AC

 -Original Message-


 TBD...acronym from to be deremined I think, check if you have latest 
 firmware loaded on it


 VE3GNO Daniel


 

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[Elecraft] KX3 Kit #80 in SV5

2012-05-26 Thread Jeff Kinzli N6GQ
Greetings, I'm currently in SV5 (Patmos) for some much needed
vacationing. I brought my kit-KX3 #80 along for a maiden voyage. Being
WPX CW weekend, I went down to a nice north-facing beach, strung up a
~40' wire into a tree, with a few random length radials, and used a
cigarette lighter plug in my rental car. I brought my Macbook Pro and
used Rumped logger, with the USB cable. Keying is great. I played a
while on 40M and 20M and worked a good number of guys. Even on 40M
with the incredibly loud and close Euro sigs I had no problem
separating folks.

I got to the beach about Sunrise, and 20 and 40 were both hopping
pretty well. S9+ sigs from the states, and 20-40 over 9 sigs from all
over Europe. With crowded band conditions, I found that I had to pick
someone that was S8 or above for them to hear me with 10w.

It was a lot of fun, I only spent about an hour or so operating until
it got warm and I decided to go back to the hotel for breakfast. This
was around 0400z. Easily worked many Europeans, US/VE, and even 9K2
and A7. Tonight, around 2200 - z I'll get on again and work some
more guys from the hotel (using an inverted vertical hanging from the
hotel room deck).  That works quite well, I worked even the E40
expedition on 10M with 5w, one call. :) Our hotel is on a hillside
overlooking a nice saltwater bay a few wavelengths away :)

Hopefully I'll see a number of you tonight on 20/40M, best 73 from
SV5! After this we'll be off to a number of islands in SV8, then off
to 9H.

Jeff SV5/N6GQ, 9H3ZZ
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Re: [Elecraft] Living with EMP

2012-05-26 Thread drewko
Does anyone here have experience with lightning detectors? I thought
it might be handy to have one of these in the shack. 

From what I've seen some are quite fancy, meant for hikers and boaters
and such. But I'm thinking that something simpler (i.e., cheaper)
might be useful around the shack. Would these be any better than just
listening for lightning crashes on the AM broadcast band?

(As for EMP... yeah, I expect you won't need a detector for that.
Everyone will know about it at pretty much the same time...)

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:21:45 +, Nikolay (LZ1NRD) wrote:

Gents,

I think it's ESD, not EMP. When the latter occurs, people have more troubles 
than usually...

Regards,
Nikolay (LZ1NRD)



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Re: [Elecraft] Living with EMP

2012-05-26 Thread GDanner
In the shack - Google Lightning detection online for several of the 
services. Some are free.

Used Lightning Detection in broadcasting in South Florida for about 30 
years.
When it got within a 100 miles we went to generator at all the studios  
transmitter sites.
In broadcasting we could not disconnect cabling but you can.

George
AI4VZ

-Original Message- 
From: drewko
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 7:16 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Living with EMP

Does anyone here have experience with lightning detectors? I thought
it might be handy to have one of these in the shack.

From what I've seen some are quite fancy, meant for hikers and boaters
and such. But I'm thinking that something simpler (i.e., cheaper)
might be useful around the shack. Would these be any better than just
listening for lightning crashes on the AM broadcast band?

(As for EMP... yeah, I expect you won't need a detector for that.
Everyone will know about it at pretty much the same time...)

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:21:45 +, Nikolay (LZ1NRD) wrote:

Gents,

I think it's ESD, not EMP. When the latter occurs, people have more 
troubles than usually...

Regards,
Nikolay (LZ1NRD)



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Text Decoder

2012-05-26 Thread Pete Lascell
My experience with a MFJ pocket CW decoder seems to be more accurate and 
less delay than my K3.  But I'll be the first to say the K3 may not be 
adjusted correctly.

Pete  W4WWQ

- Original Message - 
From: David Gilbert xda...@cis-broadband.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Text Decoder




 Compared to what?  CW is difficult to decode, even when sent by
 machine.  What piece of software or equipment have you used that you
 thought worked better than the K3?

 RTTY decodes better by machine because that's what it was designed for.
 Morse code wasn't.  If you're disappointed in the K3 text decoder, the
 guy you probably want to complain to is long dead.

 Dave   AB7E



 On 5/25/2012 9:13 PM, John_N1JM wrote:
 I'm a little disappointed in the text decoder for cw. It works fine for 
 rtty.
 Anyone got any comments about this?

 73, John N1JM

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Re: [Elecraft] Living with EMP

2012-05-26 Thread mikefurrey
I check this company for physics toys for the classroom and saw this. Cheap 
enough ...
http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=C6924

73, Mike  WA5POK

-Original Message- 
From: GDanner
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:35 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Living with EMP

In the shack - Google Lightning detection online for several of the
services. Some are free.

Used Lightning Detection in broadcasting in South Florida for about 30
years.
When it got within a 100 miles we went to generator at all the studios 
transmitter sites.
In broadcasting we could not disconnect cabling but you can.

George
AI4VZ

-Original Message- 
From: drewko
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 7:16 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Living with EMP

Does anyone here have experience with lightning detectors? I thought
it might be handy to have one of these in the shack.

From what I've seen some are quite fancy, meant for hikers and boaters
and such. But I'm thinking that something simpler (i.e., cheaper)
might be useful around the shack. Would these be any better than just
listening for lightning crashes on the AM broadcast band?

(As for EMP... yeah, I expect you won't need a detector for that.
Everyone will know about it at pretty much the same time...)

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:21:45 +, Nikolay (LZ1NRD) wrote:

Gents,

I think it's ESD, not EMP. When the latter occurs, people have more
troubles than usually...

Regards,
Nikolay (LZ1NRD)



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Text Decoder

2012-05-26 Thread Mike Harris
This could be related to the reported problem with the CWT function 
previously reported and under investigation.  Firmware 4.48 is OK, 
firmware 4.51 is not.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 26/05/2012 01:44, John_N1JM wrote:
 Thanks, Fred. It had seemed to me my previous K3 did better but I could have
 lucked with the right settings for that. I'm generally not a cw person but
 thought I would try WPXCW tonight and hopefully the decode would give me a
 little help but for the most part it didn't. My ears were better :-).

 John N1JM
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[Elecraft] thunderstorm early warning.. was: Living with EMP

2012-05-26 Thread Tom Azlin N4ZPT
Hi Drew,

I have been running a Boltek long range lightning detector that is part 
of a network of detectors for tracking storms. Gives me range and 
bearing on strikes. I can watch an electrical storm coming from further 
than I can hear the thunder. Boltek also has a electric field detector 
used by stadiums and other public out door events to warn of likely 
lightning strikes that has high short range accuracy. The one I have is 
accurate at long ranges.

http://boltek.com/stormtracker.html
http://boltek.com/ProductComparison.html
http://www.strikestarus.com/index.aspx?id=10

If you do web searches on lightning detection you can find simple sensor 
designs. this is another area where the complexity is in the software 
and the receiver not the sensor.

73, tom n4zpt
P.S. use of term EMP is odd in this discussion as EMP as an acronym 
I have always associated only with nuclear weapons effects.

On 5/26/2012 7:16 AM, drewko wrote:
 Does anyone here have experience with lightning detectors? I thought
 it might be handy to have one of these in the shack.

 From what I've seen some are quite fancy, meant for hikers and boaters
 and such. But I'm thinking that something simpler (i.e., cheaper)
 might be useful around the shack. Would these be any better than just
 listening for lightning crashes on the AM broadcast band?

 (As for EMP... yeah, I expect you won't need a detector for that.
 Everyone will know about it at pretty much the same time...)

 73,
 Drew
 AF2Z


 On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:21:45 +, Nikolay (LZ1NRD) wrote:

 Gents,

 I think it's ESD, not EMP. When the latter occurs, people have more troubles 
 than usually...

 Regards,
 Nikolay (LZ1NRD)



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Text Decoder

2012-05-26 Thread W4ATK
I concur with Mike's evaluation. 4.48 is much more robust than 4.51 as far as 
CW Decode is concerned.

Some things you may want to try to improve the S/N ratio and thus make the 
decoder more effective.

1)Turn the AGC off and reduce the RF Gain (Be careful here and drop the AF Gain 
or you might get a crash in the audio. I have AF LIM set to 26 to protect my 
audio amp.) 
2)Narrow the bandwidth. I often use my 400Hz roofing filter and then use the 
width control all the way down to 100Hz.

Using these methods I was able to copy stations that were not discernible on 
the P3. It is a trick from the old days before product detectors etc. but I 
find it still works.

73s Jim, W4ATK
On May 26, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Mike Harris wrote:

 This could be related to the reported problem with the CWT function 
 previously reported and under investigation.  Firmware 4.48 is OK, 
 firmware 4.51 is not.
 
 Regards,
 
 Mike VP8NO
 
 On 26/05/2012 01:44, John_N1JM wrote:
 Thanks, Fred. It had seemed to me my previous K3 did better but I could have
 lucked with the right settings for that. I'm generally not a cw person but
 thought I would try WPXCW tonight and hopefully the decode would give me a
 little help but for the most part it didn't. My ears were better :-).
 
 John N1JM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Text Decoder

2012-05-26 Thread Mike Harris
Just for clarification, I don't use the internal CW or RTTY decode 
functions.  I just use CWT for accurate CW netting.  Following that it 
is easy to make the often useful TX offset when calling in a simplex 
pile.  CWT is a function I use all the time and that is why its degraded 
performance in 4.51 was immediately noticeable.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 26/05/2012 09:24, W4ATK wrote:
 I concur with Mike's evaluation. 4.48 is much more robust than 4.51 as far as 
 CW Decode is concerned.

 Some things you may want to try to improve the S/N ratio and thus make the 
 decoder more effective.

 1)Turn the AGC off and reduce the RF Gain (Be careful here and drop the AF 
 Gain or you might get a crash in the audio. I have AF LIM set to 26 to 
 protect my audio amp.)
 2)Narrow the bandwidth. I often use my 400Hz roofing filter and then use the 
 width control all the way down to 100Hz.

 Using these methods I was able to copy stations that were not discernible on 
 the P3. It is a trick from the old days before product detectors etc. but I 
 find it still works.

 73s Jim, W4ATK
 On May 26, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Mike Harris wrote:

 This could be related to the reported problem with the CWT function
 previously reported and under investigation.  Firmware 4.48 is OK,
 firmware 4.51 is not.

 Regards,

 Mike VP8NO

 On 26/05/2012 01:44, John_N1JM wrote:
 Thanks, Fred. It had seemed to me my previous K3 did better but I could have
 lucked with the right settings for that. I'm generally not a cw person but
 thought I would try WPXCW tonight and hopefully the decode would give me a
 little help but for the most part it didn't. My ears were better :-).

 John N1JM
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[Elecraft] CW TEXT DECODER

2012-05-26 Thread Toby Pennington
In 4.51 mcu the text decoder for cw is not working properly  in the AUTO 
setting.  Elecraft is aware of this.  

You can set the CWT to a setting of 3 and the decoder works fairly well.  Also, 
 set the speed range to 30-90.

Toby  W4CAK
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Receive Side Band Calabration, Owner's Manual R B2

2012-05-26 Thread Bruce Beford
I have a copy of the preliminary instructions (rev XD, May 2,2012) that was
sent to my By Don, W3FPR before he went on vacation. This list does not
support attachments, so I cannot publish it to the discussion list.

I am sending a copy to John. I am sure an updated version will be available
for download soon. However, if anyone else would like to review a
preliminary version, I'd be glad to send a copy off-list. (Please request it
off-list as well).
73,
Bruce, N1RX

 Does anyone have a copy of the instruction sheet which is included with 
 the KXFL3 option?  If so,  would you please publish it on the discussion
 list.

 



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Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 ALC SSB/TUNE power

2012-05-26 Thread Gene N4FZ
No suggestions? 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Noise Reduction

2012-05-26 Thread Bob Cunnings
Especially silly since if you actually read the erratum:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740163E%20KX3%20Owner'sManErrata%20B2-2.pdf

it's defined explicitly: Some specifications are still shown as TBD
(to be determined).

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Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 ALC SSB/TUNE power

2012-05-26 Thread Ken Wagner K3IU
Yes. I suggest that when you reply you 
include something related to your 
question so we may know what you are 
asking about.
73,
Ken K3IU

On 5/26/2012 11:12 AM, Gene N4FZ wrote:
 No suggestions?

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Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 ALC SSB/TUNE power

2012-05-26 Thread Bruce Beford
The problem Gene, is that you posted your question through the archive at
Nabble, instead of to the main reflector. Nabble never passed your message
on to the reflector, so no one saw the question. If you look at your post on
Nabble, you will see: This post has NOT been accepted by the mailing list
yet.  Hence, no one responded to the question. -Bruce, N1RX

For the sake of expedience, here's gene's original posting:

My K2/100 that I bought a few months back, already assembled, has a few
issues. First is the ALC does not cut back the output power to the knob
power setting on SSB. I belieive there is a resistor mod for this. Anyone
have experience with this mod? Please advise me. Also, the TUNE power is a
steady 40W into a reliable Wattmeter, it should be 20W, correct? Can I
adjust this TUNE power setting with R26, per Elecraft 100W amplifier manual?
If so, please advise me as to what I need to do. Thanks, Gene


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Re: [Elecraft] CW TEXT DECODER

2012-05-26 Thread david Moes
Glad you mentioned it.

I sat in front of my K3, Manual etc  trying to get it to work  last 
night. Glad to know it just wasn't me.

On 5/26/2012 8:59 AM, Toby Pennington wrote:
 In 4.51 mcu the text decoder for cw is not working properly  in the AUTO 
 setting.  Elecraft is aware of this.

 You can set the CWT to a setting of 3 and the decoder works fairly well.  
 Also,  set the speed range to 30-90.

 Toby  W4CAK
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[Elecraft] K2 for sale

2012-05-26 Thread william moody
Scraping up cash to get into a K3. Serial # 7211 with many options. Info
off line at w9b...@gmail.com.
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Noise Reduction [END of Thread]

2012-05-26 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Looks like we can end this thread now.

73,

Eric
List Moderator
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On May 26, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Bob Cunnings bob.cunni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Especially silly since if you actually read the erratum:
 
 http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740163E%20KX3%20Owner'sManErrata%20B2-2.pdf
 
 it's defined explicitly: Some specifications are still shown as TBD
 (to be determined).
 
 Bob NW8L
 
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[Elecraft] P3 - K3 - N1MM

2012-05-26 Thread Lee Buller

Just completed my P3 and have it up and running with the K3.  ButI cannot 
control the rig through N1NN.  I have the P3 and the K3 hooked together with 
the 
RS232 cable (a true one) and the computer ... AS PER THE INSTRUCTIONS.  I can't 
get N1MM to see the K3.  Cannot find help in the instructions

Anyone have an answer or do I have to not connect the P3 and the K3 together 
with the RS232 cable.

Lee


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Receive Side Band Calabration, Owner's Manual R B2

2012-05-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi John,

We decided to supply opposite-sideband alignment instructions in the  
KXFL3 installation guide. These instructions are much more detailed,  
superseding those from the original KX3 owner's manual.

I see that the KXFL3 installation guide isn't on our web site yet.  
I'll send it to you in a separate email.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On May 26, 2012, at 12:47 AM, John Lally wrote:

 I notice in the owner's manual R b2 there are not detailed  
 directions for
 configuration of receive side band.   The directions say  Please  
 refer to
 the instruction sheet supplied

 with the KXFL3 option.  I notice in owner's manual R b1, detailed
 instructions are included for configuration of receive side band.



 Does anyone have a copy of the instruction sheet which is included  
 with the
 KXFL3 option?  If so,  would you please publish it on the discussion  
 list.



 Thanks



 John Lally

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Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 ALC SSB/TUNE power

2012-05-26 Thread Gene N4FZ
Thanks Bruce, I thought the message was posted directly to the reflector, my
apologies guys! 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - K3 - N1MM

2012-05-26 Thread Lee Buller

Got itworks nowcool devicewow!

Lee


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don't 
have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
any 
Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is Common 
Sense divine?

Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my mind. 
-  John W. (Kansas)

Never interfere with anything that isn't bothering you.







From: Jim Miller jtmille...@gmail.com
To: Lee Buller k...@swbell.net
Sent: Sat, May 26, 2012 12:22:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - K3 - N1MM

Run all at 38400 

On May 26, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Lee Buller k...@swbell.net wrote:

 
 Just completed my P3 and have it up and running with the K3.  ButI cannot 
 control the rig through N1NN.  I have the P3 and the K3 hooked together with 
the 

 RS232 cable (a true one) and the computer ... AS PER THE INSTRUCTIONS.  I 
 can't 

 get N1MM to see the K3.  Cannot find help in the instructions
 
 Anyone have an answer or do I have to not connect the P3 and the K3 together 
 with the RS232 cable.
 
 Lee
 
 
 In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you 
 don't 

 have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
any 

 Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is 
 Common 

 Sense divine?
 
 Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my 
 mind. 

 -  John W. (Kansas)
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - K3 - N1MM

2012-05-26 Thread Fred Jensen
You need to make sure the port and data rate is set up in N1MM. 
Computer -- P3 -- K3.  Should work just fine.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

On 5/26/2012 9:59 AM, Lee Buller wrote:

 Just completed my P3 and have it up and running with the K3.  ButI cannot
 control the rig through N1NN.  I have the P3 and the K3 hooked together with 
 the
 RS232 cable (a true one) and the computer ... AS PER THE INSTRUCTIONS.  I 
 can't
 get N1MM to see the K3.  Cannot find help in the instructions

 Anyone have an answer or do I have to not connect the P3 and the K3 together
 with the RS232 cable.

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[Elecraft] P3 - Fixed-tune 10 meter strangeness

2012-05-26 Thread Fred Jensen
I use fixed-tune mode with full span adjustment at the edges.  Works 
fine everywhere except 10 meters.  On 10, the big knob cursor just 
tunes of either edge of the screen and the little arrow tells me it's up 
or down there somewhere.  Any ideas?

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - K3 - N1MM

2012-05-26 Thread Bill Conkling
I am not certain, but I suspect you have made a very easy to fix error.  I
will assume that you have N1MM working with your K3 prior to adding the P3.
And you have the connected the computer to the computer port on the P3 with
the appropriate RS-232 cable/adapter.  If so, read on

The P3 talks to the K3 at 38,400 baud, and I will guess you were using 9600
or maybe even 4800 before.  Reset the K3 baud rate to 38,400 and do the same
with N1MM, and you should be OK. The computer will usually automatically set
up to whatever baud rate some device tries to connect. I just checked, and I
can set my P3 to lower baud rates, but I suspect the response is better at
the recommended 38,400 baud.

Let me know
n...@arrl.net

...bill  nr4c
 

-Original Message-
From: Lee Buller [mailto:k...@swbell.net] 
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 1:00 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 - K3 - N1MM


Just completed my P3 and have it up and running with the K3.  ButI
cannot 
control the rig through N1NN.  I have the P3 and the K3 hooked together with
the 
RS232 cable (a true one) and the computer ... AS PER THE INSTRUCTIONS.  I
can't 
get N1MM to see the K3.  Cannot find help in the instructions

Anyone have an answer or do I have to not connect the P3 and the K3 together

with the RS232 cable.

Lee


 In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you
don't 
have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find
any 
Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is
Common 
Sense divine?

Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my
mind. 
-  John W. (Kansas)

Never interfere with anything that isn't bothering you.
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[Elecraft] N8BX Knobs. Another FS Set

2012-05-26 Thread Bob
Well Phil sold his pretty quickly so I'll put mine up with the same offer.

Original style set for the K3.   $100 shipped.

As new condition.  Why?   I liked the feel of the originals but upon seeing the
new version had a nostalgia attack.   Reminded me of the Heath SB series I had
and the Collins S line I wanted.

73,
Bob
K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956)  K2TKR





Have been sold.Thank you!

Phil

Philip LaMarche


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[Elecraft] KPA3 / KAT500 Remote Question

2012-05-26 Thread WB9JPH
Question . . . .

My station is in a 2nd floor loft.

The antenna coax cables come into the basement utility room and then up behind 
the plasterboard walls to my shack.

Will I be able to put the KAT 500 and KPA 3 in the basement utility room and 
control them by snaking an RS232 cable from the shack to the utility room 
through the PVC pipe that contains my coax?

If this will work are there any special considerations I need to be aware of?

73
John



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[Elecraft] New KX3 field-test firmware (rev 1.01)

2012-05-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
If you're feeling adventurous, let me know and I'll email you our  
latest KX3 field-test firmware (rev 1.01). Since the last production  
release, 0.99, we've made a number of significant changes:

- improved AGC (similar to the latest K3 firmware)

- autospot with RIT on adjusts the RIT offset rather than the VFO A  
frequency

- speech compression (CMP) is automatically disabled in audio data  
modes (DATA-A, AFSK-A)

- VFO tuning noise reduction (MENU:VFO NR) can now be enabled/disabled  
on a per-band basis; typically needed only on 6 meters

- dual watch now disengages correctly when the VFOs are out of dual- 
watch range, preventing ghost signals that were observed at around  
+/- 15 kHz VFO A/B separation

- receive noise pulse rejection prevents the S-meter and AGC from  
getting pinged by things like appliances and florescent lamps

- various other bug fixes

73,
Wayne
N6KR





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Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro to put ATU in norm/bypass mode

2012-05-26 Thread Bruce Hammond
Wayne's macro for ATU inline and bypass helped me easily go back to QRP or
100w after switching off the KPA500 (already had a macro on PF1/PF2 for 5w
and 100w, just could not figure out how to handle ATU definitively.) 

I would like to find a way to automatically place ATU in bypass when the
KPA500 is placed in OPERATE as I seem to forget to bypass ATU about half the
time when firing up the KPA500 to grab a DX. 

Anyone know how to automatically bypass ATU when KPA500 is placed in
OPERATE?

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[Elecraft] K3 and TRlog

2012-05-26 Thread david Moes
Our club has been using TRlog for many years for Field Day and plan to 
continue to use it for several good reasons.   for the most part they 
are using it stand alone without a rig connection other than keying 
CW.in comes the K3 and the possibility of simple rig control and 
here is the problem.

there seems to be some odd reactions   when band changes are made TRlog 
fails to show it without delay.   often the frequency display on TRlog 
will go blank and then show up again at either the new or old frequency 
then finally will settle down and show the correct info after 10 or 20 
seconds.   Also band changes at TRlog don't work  I can only change it 
at the rig.  this is running it under windows. if I boot into DOS 
7.1 and run TRlog it all seems to work fine.   I don't really know 
where the disconnect is   something to do with windows Im sure   it acts 
the same whether running XP   or window 7.  has   anyone  run into this 
and better does anyone know of a fix   I fooled around with some of the 
polling delays to no effect.

Here is the related section from the log.cfg  as used   I used Kenwood 
rig  for the K3 as its recomended by TRlog.

RADIO ONE CONTROL PORT = SERIAL 1
RADIO ONE BAUD RATE 4800
RADIO ONE TYPE TS850

and the K3 is of course set for 4800 as well

  I am thinking that the ultimate answer will be to run it from DOS but 
Id rather use windows so that I can use other applications as well.



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Re: [Elecraft] CW TEXT DECODER

2012-05-26 Thread John_N1JM
When you say set CWT to three, do you mean the text decode threshold?

John N1JM


Tobyp wrote
 
 In 4.51 mcu the text decoder for cw is not working properly  in the AUTO
 setting.  Elecraft is aware of this.  
 
 You can set the CWT to a setting of 3 and the decoder works fairly well. 
 Also,  set the speed range to 30-90.
 
 Toby  W4CAK
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[Elecraft] KPA3 D10 Blown. Causes?

2012-05-26 Thread Geoff Wolf AB3LS
Was running the CQ WPX CW contest here on 20 meters after a normal transmit
cycle, the radio unkeyed and immediately everything was very quiet. All of
the signals dropped in strength by about 7 S Units.

I tried keying up again but this time I wasn't getting any power out and a
high current warning from the radio.

I dropped the power from 100W down to 12W. As soon as the relay kicked to
switch to the LPA, the receive was working fine again. I'm getting the full
~10W out of the LPA.

So... I pulled out the KPA3 and quickly noticed that D10 is blown.

Other than just a normal diode failure, could there be any suspect external
causes for this? I'm not very good at schematics. What is the purpose of
this diode?

73
DE AB3LS
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and TRlog

2012-05-26 Thread Scott Manthe
TRLog hasn't been updated since 2006, so I'd consider trying to convince 
the fellows in the club that it's time to move on to one of the many 
more modern contest loggers. When I used Windows, I used N1MM, but the 
are many others that are still supported by their developers.

73,
Scott, N9AA


On 5/26/12 10:43 PM, david Moes wrote:
 Our club has been using TRlog for many years for Field Day and plan to
 continue to use it for several good reasons.   for the most part they
 are using it stand alone without a rig connection other than keying
 CW.in comes the K3 and the possibility of simple rig control and
 here is the problem.

 there seems to be some odd reactions   when band changes are made TRlog
 fails to show it without delay.   often the frequency display on TRlog
 will go blank and then show up again at either the new or old frequency
 then finally will settle down and show the correct info after 10 or 20
 seconds.   Also band changes at TRlog don't work  I can only change it
 at the rig.  this is running it under windows. if I boot into DOS
 7.1 and run TRlog it all seems to work fine.   I don't really know
 where the disconnect is   something to do with windows Im sure   it acts
 the same whether running XP   or window 7.  has   anyone  run into this
 and better does anyone know of a fix   I fooled around with some of the
 polling delays to no effect.

 Here is the related section from the log.cfg  as used   I used Kenwood
 rig  for the K3 as its recomended by TRlog.

 RADIO ONE CONTROL PORT = SERIAL 1
 RADIO ONE BAUD RATE 4800
 RADIO ONE TYPE TS850

 and the K3 is of course set for 4800 as well

I am thinking that the ultimate answer will be to run it from DOS but
 Id rather use windows so that I can use other applications as well.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and TRlog

2012-05-26 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I love N1MM  I believe TR4W is a very close approximation to TR but for 
windows.

Good luck!

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net:23 or w0mu-1.dnsdynamic.com
Http://www.w0mu.com


On 5/26/2012 9:52 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:
 TRLog hasn't been updated since 2006, so I'd consider trying to convince
 the fellows in the club that it's time to move on to one of the many
 more modern contest loggers. When I used Windows, I used N1MM, but the
 are many others that are still supported by their developers.

 73,
 Scott, N9AA


 On 5/26/12 10:43 PM, david Moes wrote:
 Our club has been using TRlog for many years for Field Day and plan to
 continue to use it for several good reasons.   for the most part they
 are using it stand alone without a rig connection other than keying
 CW.in comes the K3 and the possibility of simple rig control and
 here is the problem.

 there seems to be some odd reactions   when band changes are made TRlog
 fails to show it without delay.   often the frequency display on TRlog
 will go blank and then show up again at either the new or old frequency
 then finally will settle down and show the correct info after 10 or 20
 seconds.   Also band changes at TRlog don't work  I can only change it
 at the rig.  this is running it under windows. if I boot into DOS
 7.1 and run TRlog it all seems to work fine.   I don't really know
 where the disconnect is   something to do with windows Im sure   it acts
 the same whether running XP   or window 7.  has   anyone  run into this
 and better does anyone know of a fix   I fooled around with some of the
 polling delays to no effect.

 Here is the related section from the log.cfg  as used   I used Kenwood
 rig  for the K3 as its recomended by TRlog.

 RADIO ONE CONTROL PORT = SERIAL 1
 RADIO ONE BAUD RATE 4800
 RADIO ONE TYPE TS850

 and the K3 is of course set for 4800 as well

 I am thinking that the ultimate answer will be to run it from DOS but
 Id rather use windows so that I can use other applications as well.

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[Elecraft] K3: 4.51 vs WPX CW

2012-05-26 Thread Ralph Parker
Setting up the K3's new 4.51 AGC, I took an average of the THR and SLP
settings some of the guys were using. I had to do a few minor adjustments
to prevent the strong signals from hurting my ears.

By Saturday night, I realized that I never had a 'click' problem from anyone!
Non solam sed etiam (gotta find some use for my high-school Latin), I
noticed that I had been operating with the NB on most of the afternoon, in
spite of which all sigs sounded good (certainly lot like 'before', when the
clix drove me crazy, and the NB chopped the signals up). I turned off the
NB, and discovered that it had been eliminating some hash from the neighbours!
Holy mackinaw - it works!

So: what a tremendous difference! This is the K3 I expected when I bought it!
Tnx to the Elecraft crew for their efforts!!
Anybody who hasn't tried it yet is in for a pleasant surprise.

I'm doing SO-15m, so I have the night off.
CU all in the pileups tomorrow.

Ralph, VE7XF, a very happy customer.

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[Elecraft] KPA 500 and KAT 500

2012-05-26 Thread WB9JPH
CORRECTION:

I asked a question about running the K3 in my 2nd floor shack and putting the 
amp and tuner in the basement, HOWEVER, I didn't catch my typo in the original 
message.

I want to put the KAT 500 and KPA 500 in the basement and have the K3 in the 
2nd floor shack.

How can I do this?

Any problems?

73
John
WB9JPH

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2012-05-26 Thread kevinr
Good Evening,
 A quick note about tomorrow's first net.  Depending on how close 
the contesters are around 14050 kHz there may or may not be a twenty 
meter net.  Listening today I heard quite a few on twenty, fifteen, and 
ten meters.  So if they all spread out I may get a frequency for the 
net.  If not there will still be a forty meter net a few hours later.

Please join us tomorrow afternoon and evening.

1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
2) NCS help  (as well as QSP/QNP relay help)

Sunday 2200z (Sunday 3 PM PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0200z (Sunday 7 PM PDT)  7045 kHz

   Stay well,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 and KAT 500

2012-05-26 Thread Scott Manthe
John,
I guess my question is why would you want to? You're going to have coax 
loss either way, and while you might get some benefit in having the 
tuner and amp closer to the antenna, I'm not sure it'd be worth not 
having the $2200 amp and $600 tuner in the shack.

73,
Scott, N9AA


On 5/27/12 12:36 AM, WB9JPH wrote:
 CORRECTION:

 I asked a question about running the K3 in my 2nd floor shack and putting the 
 amp and tuner in the basement, HOWEVER, I didn't catch my typo in the 
 original message.

 I want to put the KAT 500 and KPA 500 in the basement and have the K3 in the 
 2nd floor shack.

 How can I do this?

 Any problems?

 73
 John
 WB9JPH


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Re: [Elecraft] N8BX Knobs. Another FS Set

2012-05-26 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
Hey, can I ask what these knobs are? I'm pretty new to the K3 (thought
my K2 would be all I ever needed but boy was I wrong). :)

On Sat, 26 May 2012, Bob wrote:

 Well Phil sold his pretty quickly so I'll put mine up with the same offer.

 Original style set for the K3.   $100 shipped.

 As new condition.  Why?   I liked the feel of the originals but upon seeing 
 the
 new version had a nostalgia attack.   Reminded me of the Heath SB series I had
 and the Collins S line I wanted.

 73,
 Bob
 K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956)  K2TKR





 Have been sold.Thank you!

 Phil

 Philip LaMarche


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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net announcement

2012-05-26 Thread Phillip Shepard
The weekly Elecraft SSB net will meet tomorrow (5/27/12) at 1800Z on 14.3035
MHz +/- QRM. I will be the net control station from Oregon.  See you there.

73,

Phil, NS7P
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA3 / KAT500 Remote Question

2012-05-26 Thread Dick Dievendorff
John: 

I still think that the ATU and amplifier are things that you'd normally want to 
keep nearby and in view in the radio room.  It's more convenient there, you can 
easily observe what's going on, you can turn them on and off easily.  The 
losses contributed by an extra 25' of quality coaxial cable are arguably 
insignificant. If something goes wrong, you won't have to run back and forth 
between the radio and amplifier, or bring a radio to the amp and ATU to try to 
figure out what the problem might be.  It's easier if everything is in the same 
area. Warning lights and buzzers in the amplifier won't get your attention if 
the amp is in an uninhabited room.

If you really want to move the ATU and amp, the cable between the K3 to KAT500 
to KPA500 will need to include the key line, and you'll also want a wire to 
bring to ground to initiate tune.  That, and band change lines that facilitate 
band change without transmitting and automatic adjustment of K3 power are easy 
if the amp and ATU are within a few feet of each other.

How much feedline will you have overall?  What additional power will be lost in 
the 25 foot or so of extra coax you'd add by keeping the amp and ATU with the 
operator?  What sort of coax are you using, and what's your estimated range of 
SWRs?

I did a quick check with N6BV's Transmission Line for Windows program (TLW, 
offered on the CD accompanying the Antenna Book in recent years).

If you have, for example, a relatively awful 5:1 SWR and the tuner in the shack 
(I used a 250 +j0 impedance for 5:1 SWR), you'd expect to lose about 1.12 dB in 
100 feet of quality RG-8 like coax (TMS LMR400) on 14.150 MHz.  Changing the 
line length to 125 feet results in a 1.35 dB loss; you'd save 0.23 dB for that 
25 feet by putting the ATU (and the amp) on your ground floor.  They won't be 
able to hear 0.23 dB at the DX end.  Yes, the loss would be higher on 10 
meters. And it would be a lot less if you used hardline.

I have a non-resonant dipole that I have fed with about 25' of quality coax to 
a balun outside and then low-loss (and high SWR) ladder line to the feedpoint 
of the dipole.  Works great (or as great as a simple dipole ever works).  The 
loss in the coax, which runs at high SWR, isn't much, as there isn't that much 
of it.  What hurts you is relatively long runs of low quality coax at high SWR 
at high frequencies.  This is usually solved by some combination of shorter 
distances, higher quality feedline (sometimes hardline), more power, or better 
matching at the antenna (or some combination of these).  TLW can help you 
understand these tradeoffs.

I understand the appeal of a remote antenna tuner (I want one too), but moving 
it just a little down the wire where it's inconvenient to reach but not really 
near the antenna feed point doesn't seem to me to make that much difference.  
Might as well keep it nearby.

My education on this topic is from Walt Maxwell's book Reflections III.

By the way, my new station (we're in the midst of a building a house) will also 
on the 2nd floor. The amp and ATU will be in view in the radio room when I 
operate. I don't normally need to touch them during operation except to turn 
them on and off, but I want to be able to see them.  I have a 100 foot run to 
one tower (plus 25' or so to get to the 2nd floor) and a 200 foot run to 
another.  The 200 foot run, to a HyTower that can sometimes benefit from an 
ATU, will be fed with surplus CATV hardline.

73 de Dick, K6KR



 My station is in a 2nd floor loft.
 
 The antenna coax cables come into the basement utility room and then up 
 behind the plasterboard walls to my shack.
 
 Will I be able to put the KAT 500 and KPA 3 in the basement utility room and 
 control them by snaking an RS232 cable from the shack to the utility room 
 through the PVC pipe that contains my coax?
 

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