[Elecraft] Fw: [OT] HRO Sunnyvale
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Re: [Elecraft] [600MRG] Use of K3 on 600m (and below)
Correct. Refer to the K3 manual, page 56, KXV3: If KXV3 is set to TEST, the K3 will use low power (0.1 to1.50 mw) on all bands, including hte HF and transverter bands. RF input/output is via teh XVTR IN/OUT jacks in this case. To access the TEST setting, KXV3 must first be set to NOR, then K3 turned off/on. The K3 will transmit on any frequency from 490-KHz to 30-MHz in the test mode if you have the General Coverage filter installed. This procedure is how I used the K3 to transmit on 495-510 KHz under the experimental license WD2XSH/45. I found I only need 0.1 mw to drive my NDB transmitter. I insert the K3 drive in place of the standard xtal oscillator. Details of this is on my 600m webpage. 73, Ed -- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [600MRG] Use of K3 on 600m (and below) Message-ID: 5230ad70.2080...@embarqmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Fred, I believe Ed is referring to the KXV3 TEST mode. See page 50 of the manual, the first bullet in the Milliwat TX Gain Calibration. That is different than TX TEST. 73, Don W3FPR 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com dubus...@gmail.com Kits made by KL7UW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [OT} Wireless chargers.
Chargers for small electronic devices that use low frequency induction at close range are common and harmless. But how about a device that is said to use many transmitters to focus energy at a rate of 1 Watt onto a device that is 30 ft away? Harmless?? http://tinyurl.com/oopg7l3 73, Erik K7TV At least they are low frequency, though the harmonics could be a bit lively. Filters being expensive, are likely not to be used. OK, so how are they going to share that sort of spectrum (2.45GHz etc) to wirelessly charge remote devices, without killing WiFi and so on? Or creating health risks (it's the same spectrum as microwave ovens use of course...) A far bigger problem for us HF radio spectrum users, are Plasma TV's, and in home power line networking. Both polute the RF spectrum from a few MHz, now way up to a few 100MHz, often with no notches (that don't realy help anyway) for some considerable distance. Also many types of LED lighting, is particularly dirty RF wise too. http://www.ban-plt.co.uk/UK based, but a lot of good general info. With the presure to go green and everything be as efficient as possible, I do wonder about Wireless charging in general, if the green movement is about to shoot itself in it's collective foot. Amazed... Dave G0WBX. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 overheating smell after an hour or so.
peterc281 wrote Thanks for the reply Bill. I remeasured the current. KRX3 on 1.82A off 1.52A so if the extra current is consistent with the KRX3 on and off with your measurement then I've got an extra 400mA sneaking off somewhere? I measured mine again and got the following using the internal meter...1.15A KRX3 off and 1.45A on. My readings jump around quite a bit so that's an eyeball average. Yes you may have something else going on somewhere in the rig. Probably time to contact k3support at elecraft.com. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-overheating-smell-after-an-hour-or-so-tp7578806p7578868.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 and KX1 For Sale
K2 SN4776, KSB2, K160RX, KAF2, KAT2, KDIMP, KBT2- $650 shipped KX1 SN196, KXB30, KXAT1, KXPD1- $300 shipped Original builder. My picnic table and backpack radios replaced by KX3. Pictures available. Reply off list. Pickup in Southern CA preferred. 73 Joe W6AYC jpur...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Splitter for Loop RX Antenna ?
I am currently using one of these in my K3's RX IN/OUT loop - works fine. 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com. For spots, please go to your favorite ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node. On 9/11/2013 5:38 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: See: http://cliftonlaboratories.com/z10050a_3_db_hybrid.htm 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 9/11/2013 4:20 PM, F5vjc wrote: I'd like to build an RF Splitter for my K3 to use my RX loop antenna for either for diversity reception, connected to AUX RF (BNC) or use it for my Main RX antenna connected to RX ANT. I understand there is a suitable RF transformer splitter available from Mini-Circuits Labs, ZFSC-2-1-75, but has anyone any details on how to build such a splitter? Core, windings etc. Or why not just use a resistive splitter, too much insertion loss? Anyone any ideas? 73, Deni F5VJC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [OT} Wireless chargers.
What I found interesting was where the article said A Cota-enabled device sends out a beacon signal that finds paths to the charger, which in turn returns the power signal through only those open paths back to the receiver, avoiding people or anything that absorbs its energy. It sounds like they have found some new laws of physics. David K0LUM Chargers for small electronic devices that use low frequency induction at close range are common and harmless. But how about a device that is said to use many transmitters to focus energy at a rate of 1 Watt onto a device that is 30 ft away? Harmless?? http://tinyurl.com/oopg7l3 73, Erik K7TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [OT} Wireless chargers.
My first thought was phased array. When I found his patent, sure enough, that is what he is doing. http://www.google.com/patents/US8159364 David, AJ4TF K2 7006 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Re-OT-Wireless-chargers-tp7578867p7578873.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [OT} Wireless chargers.
And, just a reminder, just because you get a patent on something doesn't mean it can be made into a practical device that works. And it doesn't mean that someone can't sue you for infringement even if it does work. AJ4TF -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Re-OT-Wireless-chargers-tp7578867p7578874.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Straight Key in parallel with PC keying
I have been reluctant to simply parallel the two by means of a Y cable for fear that sending with the straight key would place a direct short across the output of the winkeyer and wreak havoc on my winkeyer. Am I being unduly concerned?? Yes, you are being overly concerned G. The CW output of all microHAM keyers is an open collector NPN transistor capable of handling +48V DC and at least 100 mA. Unless your key generated a negative voltage when it is open, there is no issue connecting a straight key directly in parallel with the CW output of any microHAM keyer. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 9/12/2013 12:54 PM, K4GM-George wrote: Currently I manually switch between PC keying via a Microham Winkeyer which keys via N1MM and a straight key by unplugging and re-plugging in the back of the radio. I have been reluctant to simply parallel the two by means of a Y cable for fear that sending with the straight key would place a direct short across the output of the winkeyer and wreak havoc on my winkeyer. Am I being unduly concerned?? Or is there enough isolation built into the Winkeyer so that all will be well?? If I could use a Y cable I would have the PC, the paddle, and the straight key all available all the time which would be great. Thanks in advance to all who respond. 73, George K4GM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Straight Key in parallel with PC keying
Have an order in for a Winkeyer USB, had a few hangs doing direct computer CW with N1MM, so it was a question I was having. I usually do the straight key and a paddle into the K3 keyer. A related question, got a Signallink up and running last week. Unplugged the foot switch on the PTT line and was wondering if I could just do a Y off the PTT jack with the Signalink and foot switch. Good post on the diodes, have done that with amp keying for isolation. W3OU Steve -Original Message- From: K4GM-George k...@verizon.net To: Elecraft List Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, Sep 12, 2013 12:55 pm Subject: [Elecraft] Straight Key in parallel with PC keying Currently I manually switch between PC keying via a Microham Winkeyer which keys via N1MM and a straight key by unplugging and re-plugging in the back of the radio. I have been reluctant to simply parallel the two by means of a Y cable for fear that sending with the straight key would place a direct short across the output of the winkeyer and wreak havoc on my winkeyer. Am I being unduly concerned?? Or is there enough isolation built into the Winkeyer so that all will be well?? If I could use a Y cable I would have the PC, the paddle, and the straight key all available all the time which would be great. Thanks in advance to all who respond. 73, George K4GM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 firmware upgrade question....
Ed, The new firmware is 2.04r. Download the installation instructions for the updated firmware and review the notes on page 1 and page 4 to see if any will be beneficial to you. You can download from http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K2_Rev_2_FW_Rev_J.pdf. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/12/2013 2:40 PM, Eddy wrote: Greetings all, My fully-loaded K2 with serial 3600+ firmware is 2.03d, my question is other than the CW mod, is there any technical reason I would want to spend the money on the K2's latest firmware.I believe 2.04p? As always, thanks for everyone's help! 73 Ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [OT} Wireless chargers.
That won't do what he claims which is to direct the signal *around* objects like walls or people to reach the device, especially if it's in your pocket. I suspect he's a descendant of the entertaining guys who used to sell magic elixir from the back of a wagon guaranteed to cure any ailment. The difference would be that the guys with the elixir usually gave you something that would produce a nice buzz (or hangover if you overdid it). 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of aj4tf Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:30 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT} Wireless chargers. My first thought was phased array. When I found his patent, sure enough, that is what he is doing. http://www.google.com/patents/US8159364 David, AJ4TF K2 7006 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Re-OT-Wireless-chargers-tp7578867p75788 73.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disabling the ANT2 selection (Wayne Burdick)
now that was funny I could not find it either, did search on Elecraft site, no luck? maybe it is for ESP Emory WM3M -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:04 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disabling the ANT2 selection (Wayne Burdick) The KESP3 option is the latest in technology that allows the radio do react to your thought waves :-) . 73, Don W3FPR On 9/12/2013 3:52 PM, John Buck wrote: What is the KESP3 option? I did not find it. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA; chars randomly omitted during Tx
Stewart, You are correct in that the SVGA keyboard interface maps to a US keyboard.Unfortunately we did not have the room to include mappings for all the international key maps. I think there are only a few keys that are different on the UK keyboard. Let's see what happens when you get the K360 installed. 73, Paul Paul Saffren - N6HZ Project Manager Elecraft Inc. 831-763-4211 x122 www.elecraft.com On 9/11/2013 3:27 PM, stew...@g3ysx.org.uk wrote: Thanks Paul, I have ordered one of these, but I now have a doubt. The issue with keyboard selection is seemingly with the keyboard mapping - won't this be different with a British keyboard? Should I have waited and got one when I am next in the US? Stewart Sent from my iPad On 11 Sep 2013, at 18:11, Paul Saffren N6HZ pa...@elecraft.com wrote: Hi Stewart, We, along with many of our customers have had very good luck with the Logitech K360 Wireless keyboard. It can often be found very inexpensively online.Stay away from keyboards that have built in mice, or what are call composite devices. The SVGA USB driver does not support these, nor does it support external hubs. 73, Paul -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-SVGA-chars-randomly-omitted-during-Tx-tp7572341p7578826.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disabling the ANT2 selection (Wayne Burdick)
glad to see I wasn't the only one that couldn't find it..nor see the pun in it.. Harlan Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: The KESP3 option is the latest in technology that allows the radio do react to your thought waves :-) . 73, Don W3FPR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disabling the ANT2 selection
Jorge, I have connected a dummy load to the second antenna port. Thus when I need a dummy load it is readily available and if I accidentally switch to the second antenna port no harm is done. 73, Jim - W4BQP Licensed since 1953 On 9/11/2013 7:45 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: Hi Tom Why? For some reasons, one of this: mistake So waiting to know for an answer, I´m also want to disable all that I don´t need. Some guest ops at the station, and me also, so will be good to preserve the expensive toys :-) 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [OT} Wireless chargers.
I don't know about you, but I keep my cell phone in my pocket. I don't really like the idea of 1W of power being beam at my family jewels! Sent from my iPhone On 2013-09-12, at 12:34 PM, aj4tf aj...@arrl.net wrote: And, just a reminder, just because you get a patent on something doesn't mean it can be made into a practical device that works. And it doesn't mean that someone can't sue you for infringement even if it does work. AJ4TF -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Re-OT-Wireless-chargers-tp7578867p7578874.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disabling the ANT2 selection (Wayne Burdick)
What is the KESP3 option? I did not find it. Are you referring to the KXV3 RXA mod? I have RXAMDKT installed. On 9/12/2013 6:00 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: 3. Re: Disabling the ANT2 selection (Wayne Burdick) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Straight Key in parallel with PC keying
Currently I manually switch between PC keying via a Microham Winkeyer which keys via N1MM and a straight key by unplugging and re-plugging in the back of the radio. I have been reluctant to simply parallel the two by means of a Y cable for fear that sending with the straight key would place a direct short across the output of the winkeyer and wreak havoc on my winkeyer. Am I being unduly concerned?? Or is there enough isolation built into the Winkeyer so that all will be well?? If I could use a Y cable I would have the PC, the paddle, and the straight key all available all the time which would be great. Thanks in advance to all who respond. 73, George K4GM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disabling the ANT2 selection (Wayne Burdick)
Wayne got me, he is always so business, professional like, it did not occur to me at first what it was. I got good laugh when the the light in my dull brain when on. -Original Message- From: Harlan Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:27 PM To: d...@w3fpr.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disabling the ANT2 selection (Wayne Burdick) glad to see I wasn't the only one that couldn't find it..nor see the pun in it.. Harlan Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: The KESP3 option is the latest in technology that allows the radio do react to your thought waves :-) . 73, Don W3FPR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disabling the ANT2 selection (Wayne Burdick)
The KESP3 option is the latest in technology that allows the radio do react to your thought waves :-) . 73, Don W3FPR On 9/12/2013 3:52 PM, John Buck wrote: What is the KESP3 option? I did not find it. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results, September 8
All, I have one correction to make to last week's attendee list. John in TN is WW4JF, not WW4JS. My apologies for the error. 73, -- Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua mailto:km4ik@gmail.com km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team From: Ian Kahn - Ham [mailto:km4ik@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 2:58 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Elecraft SSB Net results, September 8 Here are today's Elecraft SSB net results. We had a good net today, with 34 check-ins. Thanks go out to Bob, W1IS, and Phil, NS7P, for relay assistance. KM4IK Ian GA K3 281 WV5I Duane TX K3 5287 W1WY Jim CA Icom IC-7000 NS7P Phil OR K3 1826 KA0NCR Artie NE K3 185 W7QDHKurt AZ K2 1538 WW4JS John TN K3 6185 AG6ISScott CA K3 4117 WO1I DickMA K3 911 K7BRR Bill AZ K3 5545 W1IS BobMA K3 6762 WB9JNZ Eric IL K3 4017 W0CZKenND K3 457 K5OAI Sam TX K3 4123 K9QJSHoop WA K3 6884 W4RKS Jim AL K3 3618 W8OV Dave TX K3 3139 K1NW Brian RIK3 4974 WA0TPN Scott IAK3 7663 KX2AB Tony TX Kenwood TS590 KD7KD Allan MT K2 7301 WN4SLG Doug TN K3 6433 KD4PS Dave IL KX33389 W7NMD Palmer AR K3 3779 KA5LYL Todd TX Yaesu FT-450 KI6UM Lou CA K3 2773 AA2EA Phil KY KX34425 W4PFMPaul VA K3 1673 K5RHD Randy NMK3 7170 VE3XM BobON K3 409 K3NLT Russ VA K2 757 K8JDCDave OH K3 6332 KE5VDT RogerTX K3 6054 KC9USCRobert IL KX34460 Thank you to everyone who checked in this week. Have a great week, and we'll talk to you on the air next Sunday! 73, -- Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua mailto:km4ik@gmail.com km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Splitter for Loop RX Antenna ?
Thanks for posting this Pete! Are you noticing any observable decrease in signal strength with vs without the hybrid splitter? If I understand correctly a power splitter with 2 outputs will give 3db insertion loss. An RF amp may be added to make up the loss. I'm wondering how you would describe the signal loss, if you notice any? Thanks :-] Duane Message: 21 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Splitter for Loop RX Antenna ? I am currently using one of these in my K3's RX IN/OUT loop - works fine. 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com. For spots, please go to your favorite ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node. -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [OT} Wireless chargers (or transmission of electrical energy by wireless methods.)
Probably unknown or forgotten was the NASA project to beam solar power from orbit to earth! Yes, that was a real project (because I worked on it). This was about 1972. Experiments were made using the experimental station (DSS-13) at Goldstone Tracking Facility in the Mojave Desert. I am not sure of the power transmitted but guess it was 20kW at 2115 MHz. The receiving antenna was experimental made up of a huge array of rectennas. Half-wave dipoles made with silicon rectifier diodes with their leads cut to resonate as a dipole. The distance power was successfully transmitted was something like 30-miles with 30% power transfer. I was working on the orbiting transmitter portion of the project which consisted of solar arrays encompassing square miles of area above earth in a geostationary orbit. Individual solar panels would power 2.5 GHz magnetrons for transmission of RF power down to earth to the receiving 'rectenna arrays. We actually modified some microwave oven magnetrons to proof the concept. So the concept had thousands of solar panels feeding thousands of magnetrons in some kind of phased array beaming this huge amount of RF to the surface of the earth. It was not cancelled by technical difficulties. I was cancelled due to environmental issues: airline pilots concerned about flying thru one these death rays and of course the bird people concerned about killing birds flying thru the beam. I wonder how well it would work with RFI to the 2.4G wifi services of today? Sidenote: Testla is the unsung hero/wizard responsible for our AC power transmission industry. His inventions were literally stolen by peers of his time. It is a fascinating read into history of electrical power. 73, Ed - KL7UW --- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT} Wireless chargers (or transmission of electrical energy by wireless methods.) Don't forget an ancient experimenter that wanted to transmit energy: considerable amounts, by wireless!!! He wasn't stupid and was deadly serious about this quest. Read his history! His name was Nikola Tesla who spent untold amounts of money trying to do just this! He wasn't successful except over very short distances and the efficiency wasn't good. So don't get your hopes up. Tesla revolutionized the AC electric generation and transmission system with Westinghouse bankrolling him and made the polyphase AC system the cornerstone for all the systems on the grid today except for the small amount solar and wind power contribute at this time. There really isn't a technology that will outdo steam turbine power generation except perhaps for nuclear plants which can become runaway hazards as demonstrated by 6 Mile Island and Chernobyl Russia meltdowns plus the tsunami upset nuclear plants in Japan! Engineers and ecologists still haven't found a way to safely store spent nuclear fuel rods without them having the possibility of becoming toxic and extremely dangerous in the future. Transmitting megawatts of power versus just a few watts wirelessly are horses of two completely different colors in spite of what the dreamers say. 73, Sandy W5TVW 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com dubus...@gmail.com Kits made by KL7UW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disabling the ANT2 selection (Wayne Burdick)
You might have to concentrate harder. ;-) Rick wa6nhc Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable On Sep 12, 2013, at 1:10 PM, WM3M w...@live.com wrote: now that was funny I could not find it either, did search on Elecraft site, no luck? maybe it is for ESP Emory WM3M -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:04 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disabling the ANT2 selection (Wayne Burdick) The KESP3 option is the latest in technology that allows the radio do react to your thought waves :-) . 73, Don W3FPR On 9/12/2013 3:52 PM, John Buck wrote: What is the KESP3 option? I did not find it. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3] Custom 700 Hz 8-Pole Filters -- A Possible Photo Finish
Ken and I are now accepting orders towards our fifth batch of 700 Hz INRAD filters which is scheduled to ship in early November. Coincidentally we are now projecting that this next batch will sell out about the same date it ships. (A subsequent batch can be expected about 15 weeks after that date, i.e. in the mid-February timeframe.) If this batch doesn't sell out before it arrives, then any remaining filters will almost surely disappear within a matter of hours of their arrival! Please visit http://www.unpcbs.com for full details, including: ordering instructions; user comments; retail price; SH charges; passband plot; FAQs; and app notes. 73, Gary KI4GGX (webmaster) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 firmware upgrade question....
Greetings all, My fully-loaded K2 with serial 3600+ firmware is 2.03d, my question is other than the CW mod, is there any technical reason I would want to spend the money on the K2's latest firmware.I believe 2.04p? As always, thanks for everyone's help! 73 Ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Saving Config file KX3
If one does not recalibrate does the config file change with firmware updates requiring re-saving or does it only have to be saved initially? Bob __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Splitter for Loop RX Antenna ?
Hi Duane, I'll jump in with my 2 cents. I use the DXE-RSC-2 splitter from DX Engineering for my Pixel RX loop. One leg goes to the KXV3A RX IN port for the Main RX and the other leg goes to the AUX port for the SUB RX. I think this is what the original poster was trying to accomplish. This would be in non-diversity use. The DX ENGR unit has a 3db per port loss which I'm sure is true. But we pretty much expect RX antennas to have somewhat lower gain than our transmitting antenna. Their advantage is in improved signal to noise ratio. We make adjustments for this by possibly not using the K3 attenuator or by using the K3 pre-amp. Or we use an external amplifier with the RX antenna. By taking these steps an additional loss of 3db signal + noise should not be a show stopper. 73, Mike K2MK dw-4 wrote Thanks for posting this Pete! Are you noticing any observable decrease in signal strength with vs without the hybrid splitter? If I understand correctly a power splitter with 2 outputs will give 3db insertion loss. An RF amp may be added to make up the loss. I'm wondering how you would describe the signal loss, if you notice any? Thanks :-] Duane Message: 21 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Splitter for Loop RX Antenna ? I am currently using one of these in my K3's RX IN/OUT loop - works fine. 73, Pete N4ZR -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Splitter-for-Loop-RX-Antenna-tp7578837p7578895.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Straight Key in parallel with PC keying
I just made up a small box with 6 jacks on it, for 6 different keys, keyers or whatever, all that is needed are some cheap diodes to steer the keyer in use. Diodes block whatever is being done from going back down the line to another device. Another jack goes to a cable to the K3. No switches to throw, nothing to worry about. Think I used 1n4007 or some such cheap diode. Been using the same box on many radios for the past 20 years with no problems. 73 Merv K9FD/KH6 Currently I manually switch between PC keying via a Microham Winkeyer which keys via N1MM and a straight key by unplugging and re-plugging in the back of the radio. I have been reluctant to simply parallel the two by means of a Y cable for fear that sending with the straight key would place a direct short across the output of the winkeyer and wreak havoc on my winkeyer. Am I being unduly concerned?? Or is there enough isolation built into the Winkeyer so that all will be well?? If I could use a Y cable I would have the PC, the paddle, and the straight key all available all the time which would be great. Thanks in advance to all who respond. 73, George K4GM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Say hi to Juno - OT
One of the engineers on the Juno project gave a talk at our club last night about wanting to involve hams in the Juno fly by next month. Very interesting. Thought some of you might find it interesting. There are three links near the bottom left of the page for more information. In addition, the U of Iowa amateur club is planning a special event operation using their call W0IO. Thanks fo the bandwidth David K0LUM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Splitter for Loop RX Antenna ?
A simple BNC T connector (IE wire-or) from the RX antenna to the KXV3A RX IN and to the AUX IN of the SUB RX works fine. No amplification necessary. In diversity RX, the Main RX switches to my TX vertical and the SUB RX swicthes to the RX Antenna - loop, beverage etc. I had first tried a Magic-T splitter but found it to be unnecssary vs the T. It's wise to use a front end protector like an Array Solutions AS-RXFEP in line with the RX Antenna if it's close to the TX antenna. An Preamp like a KD9SV BF981 can also prove useful as well as an Array Solutions W3NQN brick wall Broadcast Band filter if local stations overload the front end on 160. 73 - Steve WB6RSE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] OT: signature lines
Recently seen on an Elecraft e-list post: Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable Incorrect. Typos are entirely evitable... It's a telephone. use a real keyboard. ;-) 73, Bruce N1RXX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Saving Config file KX3
Bob, I do a save configuration every time I update firmware. My inference is that you can save your configuration every time you say save configuration. 73, Barry K3NDM - Original Message - From: Bob Baltz b...@hogbytes.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:42:11 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Saving Config file KX3 If one does not recalibrate does the config file change with firmware updates requiring re-saving or does it only have to be saved initially? Bob __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: signature lines
Typos or improper spelling or the incorrect words are always inevitable. Proper grammar errors are yet more likely. You're, your, yore; wear, where, we're, weir ... Get over it. ;-) Rick wa6nhc Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable On Sep 12, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Bruce Beford bruce.bef...@myfairpoint.net wrote: Recently seen on an Elecraft e-list post: Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable Incorrect. Typos are entirely evitable... It's a telephone. use a real keyboard. ;-) 73, Bruce N1RXX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: signature lines
These don't rank even in the top 100 in terms of things that keep me up at night. It's pretty annoying when an email or text or IM contains *so much* malformed spew that I have to struggle and re-read several times to transform it into something I can understand, but if I can apply quick mental error correction with a minimum of effort, it's way easier to 'let it go' than it is to gripe about it. I'm sure occasionally people even transmit typos in CW. Forgiveness and tolerance are pretty nice things. (Personally I find ordinary, everyday verbal abuse of the language (where phones aren't even involved) FAR more obnoxious, like using the word ask as a noun. But that's my pet peeve :-) ) Nick On 12 September 2013 19:32, Rick Bates happymooseph...@gmail.com wrote: Typos or improper spelling or the incorrect words are always inevitable. Proper grammar errors are yet more likely. -- *N6OL* Saying something doesn't make it true. Belief in something doesn't make it real. And if you have to lie to support a position, that position is not worth supporting. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: signature lines
With the advent of messaging such as e-mail, conversation has moved from the spoken to the written word, along with all of the mistakes one hears daily in conversations. I am careful when I write a formal letter. Here I'm talking and I often notice, with a chuckle, how I sometimes mangle the English (or is it American?) language. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bates Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:33 PM To: Bruce Beford Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: signature lines Typos or improper spelling or the incorrect words are always inevitable. Proper grammar errors are yet more likely. You're, your, yore; wear, where, we're, weir ... Get over it. ;-) Rick wa6nhc Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable On Sep 12, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Bruce Beford bruce.bef...@myfairpoint.net wrote: Recently seen on an Elecraft e-list post: Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable Incorrect. Typos are entirely evitable... It's a telephone. use a real keyboard. ;-) 73, Bruce N1RXX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: signature lines
While I can be forgiving for most of those kind of errors, it saddens me when I run across a communication from someone who is supposed to be teaching my grandchildren filled with incorrect usage of the language, including spelling errors, errors in sentence structure or syntax errors. I have noticed that in newspaper quotes, emails, and 'official' school communications. If those educators are either so sloppy to create such errors (or really do not understand the rules of the language), I get a negative impression of the level of communications skills that are being taught to our children. That has nothing to do with the typos that are caused by 'keyboards' that are too small for fingers. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/12/2013 10:47 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: With the advent of messaging such as e-mail, conversation has moved from the spoken to the written word, along with all of the mistakes one hears daily in conversations. I am careful when I write a formal letter. Here I'm talking and I often notice, with a chuckle, how I sometimes mangle the English (or is it American?) language. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bates Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:33 PM To: Bruce Beford Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: signature lines Typos or improper spelling or the incorrect words are always inevitable. Proper grammar errors are yet more likely. You're, your, yore; wear, where, we're, weir ... Get over it. ;-) Rick wa6nhc Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable On Sep 12, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Bruce Beford bruce.bef...@myfairpoint.net wrote: Recently seen on an Elecraft e-list post: Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable Incorrect. Typos are entirely evitable... It's a telephone. use a real keyboard. ;-) 73, Bruce N1RXX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: signature lines
-Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:23 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: signature lines While I can be forgiving for most of those kind of errors, it saddens me when I run across a communication from someone who is supposed to be teaching my grandchildren filled with incorrect usage of the language, including spelling errors, errors in sentence structure or syntax errors. I have noticed that in newspaper quotes, emails, and 'official' school communications. If those educators are either so sloppy to create such errors (or really do not understand the rules of the language), I get a negative impression of the level of communications skills that are being taught to our children. That has nothing to do with the typos that are caused by 'keyboards' that are too small for fingers. 73, Don W3FPR === AMEN. 73 de Milt, N5IA - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6661 - Release Date: 09/12/13 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: signature lines
Folks - Way OT. Let's end this thread for now. Please try to keep posts here Ham Radio and Elecraft related. 73, Eric List Moderator elecraft.com _..._ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: signature lines
__ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html