[Elecraft] Wanted: K3 filters options

2013-10-06 Thread Brian Hemmis

Wanted for K3- 
KBPF3 General Coverage RX Bandpass Module
KFL3A-6K 6 kHz AM / ESSB, 8-pole filter
KFL3A-2.8K 2.8 kHz, 8-pole filter replacement for standard 2.7 filter
Possibly other options as well.
Let me know what you have...
Brian K3USC (since 1962)
216-848-0211
k3usc at arrl.net
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[Elecraft] FS K1 #3219

2013-10-06 Thread Robert 'RC' Conley
For Sale 2 Band 40  15M Ser #3219 it works as specified. From a non
smoking home. 150+Khz tuning. I did mess up the construction Sent it to Don
W3FPR and he straighten it out. Copy of report included. $225 includes
CONUS SHIPPING via
priority mail.PAYPAL accepted and prefered. Pictures and copy of Dons
report available on request. contact off line please.
RC KC5WA


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SKCC #089
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died

2013-10-06 Thread mikerodgerske5gbc

Not to pick on anyone but do I remember wrong?

I've never seen Elecraft recommend running a K3/10 at 12w or a K3/100 at 120. 

Maybe I missed it?

I don't this caused the problem but I see this 12/120 pretty frequently. 

73
Mike R



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I'm looking for troubleshooting ideas.  

My K3-10 suddenly died while in use.  Here's what happened:

I was listening and transmitting on 15 meters. Heard a station in Kansas 5-9 
calling into the California QSO Party. I couldn't reach him despite a strong 
signal from him. SWR 1.1:0 outputting 12 watts. 

Beginning to think I was having some kind of problem, I decided to power off 
the K3 and turn it back on to reset it. When I hit the power switch, the rig 
shut off with a fairly loud pop from the speakers. 

Then it wouldn't turn back on at all. 

Power supply is fine; 13.98 volts from 50 amp Astron linear supply. Power cable 
is fine; full voltage at rig end of power cord. 

Disconnected all peripherals (speakers, straight key, transverter control cable 
and RF coax cables to xv432, and mic (Kenwood MC-90 into front panel). Still no 
joy.

Any suggestions, other than packing it to send to the Mother Ship?

Lew N6LEW



Lew Phelps N6LEW
Pasadena, CA DM04wd
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Yaesu FT-7800 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died

2013-10-06 Thread Wayne Burdick
The K3 can safely be set to its maximum QRP/QRO power levels. If any operating 
limit is exceeded (temperature, voltage, current drain, SWR, reflected power, 
etc.), power will automatically be rolled back.

While this protects the radio 99.9% of the time, things can happen -- 
lightning, ESD, component failure, Acts of God, pet disasters, 8-year-old-boys, 
etc.

In the present case, some quick resistance or voltage checks might reveal 
what's going on. Check the Troubleshooting section of the manual, which is 
pretty extensive and can help you solve most problems. If that doesn't do it, 
call customer support.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died

2013-10-06 Thread mikerodgerske5gbc
Yes, but what about IMD?

73
Mike R

Georgia Mules and Country boys are fading fast away
- The Osborne Brothers

On Oct 6, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 The K3 can safely be set to its maximum QRP/QRO power levels. If any 
 operating limit is exceeded (temperature, voltage, current drain, SWR, 
 reflected power, etc.), power will automatically be rolled back.
 
 While this protects the radio 99.9% of the time, things can happen -- 
 lightning, ESD, component failure, Acts of God, pet disasters, 
 8-year-old-boys, etc.
 
 In the present case, some quick resistance or voltage checks might reveal 
 what's going on. Check the Troubleshooting section of the manual, which is 
 pretty extensive and can help you solve most problems. If that doesn't do it, 
 call customer support.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Filters for mixed JT65 and JT9 HF

2013-10-06 Thread Michael Jensen
Hi 

I am right now using this exact setup with WSJTX. 
I do get the about 400Hz to 4200 on the waterfall, but TX are an issue. 
As i guess the K3 transmit through the 2,8 Khz. filter when ever i try to
work a JT9 QSO above 3,0 Khz on the waterfall i do not see any audio output.
I have been looking for a way to TX through the AM filter but have not found
the way. 

Any hints please ? 


Thanks in advance 

73 De OZ1BZJ
Michael 



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died

2013-10-06 Thread Lewis Phelps
Thanks for input.  We can all stand down on this one.

The problem turned out to be a power cable after all.

I was using a 3' power cable assembled with fairly light wire (16 gauge).  Over 
time, the wire had flexed sufficiently at the exit from the APP pin that it 
began to fray. Fraying let to higher resistance, which led to more voltage drop 
under load, which led to further decay of the wire-pin joint. 

At the point I reported the problem, the power cord was still showing nominal 
voltage when not connected to the rig. But (apparently) resistance had risen to 
the point where the K3 wasn't getting sufficient voltage.  All this eventually 
became clear when the wire was completely cooked, broken, and charred on the 
end. 

I shudda tried a different power cord sooner. 

Lesson learned:  don't use 16 smaller gauge wire with Anderson Power Pole 
connectors, even if you double the wire to fill up the void in the pin.  It's 
still a single stranded wire where it exits from the pin, and the smaller wire 
size is more vulnerable to flexing, no matter how low the current demand of the 
load it's carrying. Eventually, this wire can (and did) become a 1 amp fuse.

73,

Lew N6LEW

PS I don't know the answer to Mike Roger's question about IMD, but I'm willing 
to bet that the answer is, not a problem. I trust Elecraft's engineers to pay 
attention to that sort of thing.

lew



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On Oct 6, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 The K3 can safely be set to its maximum QRP/QRO power levels. If any 
 operating limit is exceeded (temperature, voltage, current drain, SWR, 
 reflected power, etc.), power will automatically be rolled back.
 
 While this protects the radio 99.9% of the time, things can happen -- 
 lightning, ESD, component failure, Acts of God, pet disasters, 
 8-year-old-boys, etc.
 
 In the present case, some quick resistance or voltage checks might reveal 
 what's going on. Check the Troubleshooting section of the manual, which is 
 pretty extensive and can help you solve most problems. If that doesn't do it, 
 call customer support.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
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[Elecraft] K3/100 very low power output

2013-10-06 Thread john dudley
Hello to list, I recently acquired a K3/100 sn# 248 that has been working great 
up today.  Just made a few CW contacts but today  can only get 1 watt out 
regardless of power setting into dummy load.  KXV3 set to nor.  Cables all 
okay, grounds okay.  This is a wonderful radio with many features and I am 
guessing I have misadjusted something but having rechecked CONFIG/MAIN settings 
etc cannot see obvious reason for problem. Any hints much appreciated. 73, John 
VE3LZ  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/100 very low power output

2013-10-06 Thread Matt Zilmer
Make sure that the CONFIG:KPA3 setting shows nor, which just means
installed and not bypassed.

Try running the TX gain calibration.  1W is pretty far off from a 100W
full scale, but at least the procedure will give you some idea if
there is something wrong besides the gain setting.

I believe support will ask you to run the calibration anyway, prior to
any other remedy.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 12:50:17 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

Hello to list, I recently acquired a K3/100 sn# 248 that has been working 
great up today.  
Just made a few CW contacts but today  can only get 1 watt out
regardless of power setting into dummy load.  KXV3 set to nor.  Cables
all okay, grounds okay.  This is a wonderful radio with many features
and I am guessing I have misadjusted something but having rechecked
CONFIG/MAIN settings etc cannot see obvious reason for problem. Any
hints much appreciated. 73, John VE3LZ  
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[Elecraft] K3/100 very low power output

2013-10-06 Thread john dudley
Thanks Matt for suggestions, yes CONFIG:KPA3 is at nor. On Tx gain calibration 
any band, 5 W or 50 W setting it says, 0 watts. John
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died

2013-10-06 Thread Grant Youngman
What about it?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:28 PM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Yes, but what about IMD?
 
 73
 Mike R
 
 Georgia Mules and Country boys are fading fast away
- The Osborne Brothers
 
 On Oct 6, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:
 
 The K3 can safely be set to its maximum QRP/QRO power levels. If any 
 operating limit is exceeded (temperature, voltage, current drain, SWR, 
 reflected power, etc.), power will automatically be rolled back.
 
 While this protects the radio 99.9% of the time, things can happen -- 
 lightning, ESD, component failure, Acts of God, pet disasters, 
 8-year-old-boys, etc.
 
 In the present case, some quick resistance or voltage checks might reveal 
 what's going on. Check the Troubleshooting section of the manual, which is 
 pretty extensive and can help you solve most problems. If that doesn't do 
 it, call customer support.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
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[Elecraft] question about using extenal ATU with KX3

2013-10-06 Thread Julie Royster
Smart folks, we have been using our KX3 fine with an LDG auto-tuner.  Today,
mysteriously, it fails to tune only the 20-meter band.  We checked the
antenna with SWR meter and it seems the same as previously.  The other bands
tune fine as before.

QUESTION:  is there some setting on the KX3 we could inadvertently have
changed that could cause this to occur?
THANKS for any input or ideas I can investigate!
Julie KT4JR

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Re: [Elecraft] question about using extenal ATU with KX3

2013-10-06 Thread Grant Youngman
Is there a problem with the tuner?  Have you contacted LDG?

Grant NQ5T

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 6, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Julie Royster jsdroys...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Smart folks, we have been using our KX3 fine with an LDG auto-tuner.  Today,
 mysteriously, it fails to tune only the 20-meter band.  We checked the
 antenna with SWR meter and it seems the same as previously.  The other bands
 tune fine as before.
 
 QUESTION:  is there some setting on the KX3 we could inadvertently have
 changed that could cause this to occur?
 THANKS for any input or ideas I can investigate!
 Julie KT4JR
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Filters for mixed JT65 and JT9 HF

2013-10-06 Thread dberkley
I don't have a solution for wideband transmit (since I don't own a K3) 
but there is a simple fix: Run split.  That way, the software will keep 
the transmit close to 1500 Hz by offsetting the QRG automatically.  You 
can use the full receive bandwidth and the software will take care of 
keeping the transmit in range.

I use this on my K2 and it is great.  You just have to set it in the 
WSJT-X settings and make sure the K3 is set in split mode.  On the K2, 
split is reset each time the transceiver is power cycled so I have to be 
sure to set it back on split mode.

73, David, K2MUN

On 10/6/13 3:41 PM, Michael Jensen [via Elecraft] wrote:
 Hi

 I am right now using this exact setup with WSJTX.
 I do get the about 400Hz to 4200 on the waterfall, but TX are an issue.
 As i guess the K3 transmit through the 2,8 Khz. filter when ever i 
 try to work a JT9 QSO above 3,0 Khz on the waterfall i do not see any 
 audio output. I have been looking for a way to TX through the AM 
 filter but have not found the way.

 Any hints please ?


 Thanks in advance

 73 De OZ1BZJ
 Michael

 
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 main rcvr issue

2013-10-06 Thread Jim Mornar
Okay list, here's what I've found so far between family commitments and
watching the Bears lose...

I tried recalibrating both ksyn3 boards but no improvement.  I then tried
removing the Sub rcvr, and the main still has the dead spots, about every 5
khz and in fact, the rcvr is totally dead in those spots. The P3 goes blank
at those points too. I then thought since I had two of the ksyn3 boards, I
would try the one from the sub in the main position since the sub didn't
have those dead spots... Viola!  After recalibrating the ksyn3 in the main
slot, the main rcvr works perfectly.  So to confirm it was the ksyn3 board,
I popped it into the sub slot and reinstalled the sub rx and it now has the
dead spots.  I'll be calling Elecraft tomorrow and asking them to send me a
new ksyn3 board.

Thanks to all and I'll keep the faith!

Jim N9TK


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Subject: [Elecraft] k3 main rcvr issue


Hello,

I just completed assembly of my K3/100 with subrx and 2.8khz, 400hz and
250hz filters in each rcvr.  Very impressive rig.

On the main rcvr, while tuning across the 40m band, I get a dead spot
about every 5khz, thats about 1/2 khz wide.  I would say any signals are
attenuated at least 20 db.  The interval varies from band to band.  It seems
to do it on all bands to a varying degree.  The problem does not show up on
the sub rcvr... any thoughts?

I was going to try and remove the sub rx and see if that has any affect.

Jim N9TK

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died

2013-10-06 Thread george fritkin
In case anybody is interested, electronic equipment does just suddenly fail.  
Even stuff built by our beloved Elecraft

George, W6GF



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Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died
 

What about it?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:28 PM, mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Yes, but what about IMD?
 
 73
 Mike R
 
 Georgia Mules and Country boys are fading fast away
        - The Osborne Brothers
 
 On Oct 6, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:
 
 The K3 can safely be set to its maximum QRP/QRO power levels. If any 
 operating limit is exceeded (temperature, voltage, current drain, SWR, 
 reflected power, etc.), power will automatically be rolled back.
 
 While this protects the radio 99.9% of the time, things can happen -- 
 lightning, ESD, component failure, Acts of God, pet disasters, 
 8-year-old-boys, etc.
 
 In the present case, some quick resistance or voltage checks might reveal 
 what's going on. Check the Troubleshooting section of the manual, which is 
 pretty extensive and can help you solve most problems. If that doesn't do 
 it, call customer support.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Filters for mixed JT65 and JT9 HF

2013-10-06 Thread Sam Morgan

not sure what your TX problem is Michael?

I am running WSJTX v1.2.1, r3587
I am using the K3's AM filter for RX so I can run WSJTX in dual mode

I am running WSJTX using WSJTX's CAT through DXLabs Commander

I just tested my TX all the way from 200 up through 4400
and I can tx with the full audio out of 5 bars
and no reduction in power out

also I am running a SignaLink USB,
but that would have anything to do with it because the audio in WSJTX is 
always between 1500 – 2000 Hz. when in dual mode.



to quote the help notes in WSJTX Version 1.2 Aug. 16, 2013:

Pages 11  12#13.

Note that most SSB transceivers have a fixed Tx filter that will not 
pass audio frequencies higher than about 2700 Hz. WSJT-X v1.1 takes care 
of this by using Split mode, receiving with VFO A and transmitting with 
VFO B. The Tx dial frequency (VFO B) is offset in 500 Hz steps, and the 
generated audio frequency is adjusted so that it always falls in the 
range 1500 – 2000 Hz. With CAT and Split Tx enabled on the configuration 
screen and your transceiver set to Split mode, frequency control will be 
handled automatically.


On 10/6/2013 2:41 PM, Michael Jensen wrote:

Hi

I am right now using this exact setup with WSJTX.
I do get the about 400Hz to 4200 on the waterfall, but TX are an issue.
As i guess the K3 transmit through the 2,8 Khz. filter when ever i try to
work a JT9 QSO above 3,0 Khz on the waterfall i do not see any audio output.
I have been looking for a way to TX through the AM filter but have not found
the way.

Any hints please ?


Thanks in advance

73 De OZ1BZJ
Michael


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[Elecraft] Using Lith-Ion batteries in the KX-1

2013-10-06 Thread Howard Zehr
I have just uploaded a video to YouTube that explains how I use Lith-Ion 
batteries in the KX-1 for more voltage than Alkalines, and thus more RJ output.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFyIWrzE0BEfeature=youtu.be

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Re: [Elecraft] FS K1

2013-10-06 Thread K8QI
K1 Has Been Sold



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Re: [Elecraft] question about using extenal ATU with KX3

2013-10-06 Thread Don Wilhelm

Julie,

I don't think there is anything with the KX3 that would cause that 
difficulty.
However, I do suspect a problem with the LDG auto-tuner or in the 
antenna system somewhere.


I would suggest that you attempt a TUNE on 20 meters and then use the 
antenna analyzer to determine the SWR into the KX3 side of the tuner 
(you could just look at the SWR reported by the KX3, but the antenna 
analyzer will give you a sanity check on the KX3 indication).  If the 
tuner was not capable of tuning to a low SWR, you can conclude that 
there is a problem with the tuner or the antenna/feedline.


OTOH, if the SWR is low and the KX3 cannot operate into that low SWR 
load, that would indicate a KX3 problem - try the KX3 into a dummy load 
and see if it operates properly.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/6/2013 5:01 PM, Julie Royster wrote:

Smart folks, we have been using our KX3 fine with an LDG auto-tuner.  Today,
mysteriously, it fails to tune only the 20-meter band.  We checked the
antenna with SWR meter and it seems the same as previously.  The other bands
tune fine as before.

QUESTION:  is there some setting on the KX3 we could inadvertently have
changed that could cause this to occur?
THANKS for any input or ideas I can investigate!
Julie KT4JR



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died

2013-10-06 Thread bill conkling
Well it won't do 120 watts, only goes to 110.

And , page 9 of the manual details the by band output power with a warning that 
IMD and spurious products are specified at 100 watts.  Read between the lines.

...bill nr4c

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote:


Not to pick on anyone but do I remember wrong?

I've never seen Elecraft recommend running a K3/10 at 12w or a K3/100 at 120. 

Maybe I missed it?

I don't this caused the problem but I see this 12/120 pretty frequently. 

73
Mike R



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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 suddenly died
Message-ID: 718a33d4-d57f-4fe3-a1c3-46b41775c...@n6lew.us
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I'm looking for troubleshooting ideas.  

My K3-10 suddenly died while in use.  Here's what happened:

I was listening and transmitting on 15 meters. Heard a station in Kansas 5-9 
calling into the California QSO Party. I couldn't reach him despite a strong 
signal from him. SWR 1.1:0 outputting 12 watts. 

Beginning to think I was having some kind of problem, I decided to power off 
the K3 and turn it back on to reset it. When I hit the power switch, the rig 
shut off with a fairly loud pop from the speakers. 

Then it wouldn't turn back on at all. 

Power supply is fine; 13.98 volts from 50 amp Astron linear supply. Power 
cable is fine; full voltage at rig end of power cord. 

Disconnected all peripherals (speakers, straight key, transverter control 
cable and RF coax cables to xv432, and mic (Kenwood MC-90 into front panel). 
Still no joy.

Any suggestions, other than packing it to send to the Mother Ship?

Lew N6LEW



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died

2013-10-06 Thread Gary Gregory
Actually, both outputs are correct. When first released the K3 did go to
120w but was later reduced to 110 by a FW revision which is maintained in
all FW versions from that date if my memory serves me correctly.

In the interest of keeping IMD to a minimum, best practice is to set the k3
output to sub-100w.

The amount of signal loss when using a setting of say 95w is arguably not
to be noticed other than with test equipment.

My AUD 2 cents worth..I get short changed on the exchange rate anyway...:-)

Gary


On 7 October 2013 12:08, bill conkling n...@widomaker.com wrote:

 Well it won't do 120 watts, only goes to 110.

 And , page 9 of the manual details the by band output power with a warning
 that IMD and spurious products are specified at 100 watts.  Read between
 the lines.

 ...bill nr4c

 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

 mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 Not to pick on anyone but do I remember wrong?
 
 I've never seen Elecraft recommend running a K3/10 at 12w or a K3/100 at
 120.
 
 Maybe I missed it?
 
 I don't this caused the problem but I see this 12/120 pretty frequently.
 
 73
 Mike R
 
 
 
 m: Lewis Phelps l...@n6lew.us
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 suddenly died
 Message-ID: 718a33d4-d57f-4fe3-a1c3-46b41775c...@n6lew.us
 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
 
 I'm looking for troubleshooting ideas.
 
 My K3-10 suddenly died while in use.  Here's what happened:
 
 I was listening and transmitting on 15 meters. Heard a station in Kansas
 5-9 calling into the California QSO Party. I couldn't reach him despite a
 strong signal from him. SWR 1.1:0 outputting 12 watts.
 
 Beginning to think I was having some kind of problem, I decided to power
 off the K3 and turn it back on to reset it. When I hit the power switch,
 the rig shut off with a fairly loud pop from the speakers.
 
 Then it wouldn't turn back on at all.
 
 Power supply is fine; 13.98 volts from 50 amp Astron linear supply. Power
 cable is fine; full voltage at rig end of power cord.
 
 Disconnected all peripherals (speakers, straight key, transverter control
 cable and RF coax cables to xv432, and mic (Kenwood MC-90 into front
 panel). Still no joy.
 
 Any suggestions, other than packing it to send to the Mother Ship?
 
 Lew N6LEW
 
 
 
 Lew Phelps N6LEW
 Pasadena, CA DM04wd
 Elecraft K3-10
 Yaesu FT-7800
 l...@n6lew.us
 www.ntlew.us
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died

2013-10-06 Thread Richard Fjeld

When we think of wire gauge requirements for amperage needs, we need to
remember the amperage rating for wire is given for house voltage, typically
~117 volts AC (in the US).  For lower voltage at 13.8 VDC, we need larger 
wire

size (smaller gauge number).  What often saves us is short lead lengths.
Still, if one measures the voltage drop of a conductor under load by using
a DMM with a test lead at each end of the wire, a drop will be seen if the
wire size is not adequate for the load.   (Emphasis on 'under load'.)

The voltage drop across a resistance (in this case a conductor) is directly
proportional to the amount of current flow through the resistance.  At idle
current, very little voltage drop will be measured in the resistance of the
conductor.

The 12V jack on the back of the radio cannot be used to accurately measure
voltage drop in the power cable, but the voltage measured during key-down
will be approximately 1.4 volts less than the PS voltage if the cable is 
good.

An RCA plug can be wired to make the test connections safely.

Dick, n0ce




-Original Message- 
From: Lewis Phelps

Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 2:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died

Thanks for input.  We can all stand down on this one.

The problem turned out to be a power cable after all.

I was using a 3' power cable assembled with fairly light wire (16 gauge).
Over time, the wire had flexed sufficiently at the exit from the APP pin
that it began to fray. Fraying let to higher resistance, which led to more
voltage drop under load, which led to further decay of the wire-pin joint.

At the point I reported the problem, the power cord was still showing
nominal voltage when not connected to the rig. But (apparently) resistance
had risen to the point where the K3 wasn't getting sufficient voltage.  All
this eventually became clear when the wire was completely cooked, broken,
and charred on the end.

I shudda tried a different power cord sooner.

Lesson learned:  don't use 16 smaller gauge wire with Anderson Power Pole
connectors, even if you double the wire to fill up the void in the pin.
It's still a single stranded wire where it exits from the pin, and the
smaller wire size is more vulnerable to flexing, no matter how low the
current demand of the load it's carrying. Eventually, this wire can (and
did) become a 1 amp fuse.

73,

Lew N6LEW

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