Re: [Elecraft] Re; K3 Loss of CW+SSB

2013-10-29 Thread Bill Frantz

Glad to hear you got the Navigator working.

When I was operating SSB on 80M in the California QSO Party, I 
was using a Little Tarheel antenna. I was always having to tune 
the antenna since it has a SWR bandwidth of about 10KHz on 80M. 
I could easily tune it while transmitting the club call (W6ZZZ) 
doing search and pounce. (Of course with 12 watts, everyone I 
managed to contact said I was way down in the noise.) The K3 
nicely supported tuning and transmitting at the same time.


Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

On 10/29/13 at 12:13 PM, bw39...@yahoo.com (Bill Wiehe) wrote:

 OK. I just did some additional checking and it appears the my 
problem is not with the K3, but with the interface...

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Second chance for V>M M1-M4 memory saves?

2013-10-29 Thread Vic K2VCO
It's been a long time since this has come up, but I'll repeat my low-tech solution: I cut 
out a red sticker and pasted it over the V>M button. This creates a psychological barrier 
to pressing it! Really, it works.


On 10/29/2013 4:44 PM, Barry wrote:

I use M1-M3 as quick memories to get to the CW, SSB and RTTY parts of the
bands, including the mode change.  Every now and then, instead of pressing
M>V Mx to move freq/mode, I'll hit V>M by mistake.  Then, I have to
reprogram the button.

Is there any way to enable an "Are you sure?" or similar prompt when
overwriting a freq/mode with V>M?

Tnx,
Barry W2UP


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[Elecraft] [K3] Strange transverter power out issue

2013-10-29 Thread Robert Chipperfield
Hi all,

I'm seeing a rather strange phenomenon with the K3's transverter output
this evening. I'm using it to drive an OZ2M 70MHz transverter.

If I set up the drive level for the desired 40W out (after the 70MHz PA),
it needs about -12dB according to the K3.

After a few minutes' of TX, the power out is substantially reduced - but
here's the strange bit. If I now twiddle the power knob clockwise, the
display still indicates -12dB, but the actual power out increases back to
the original setting! Similarly if I go into the config menu, and change
the transverter drive down to 0.04 and back to 0.05, full power is restored.

This pattern continues - a gradual decline in TX power, restored by a quick
twiddle of the TX power out to get it back up, then a gradual decline again.

Any thoughts very much appreciated!

(Unfortunately I don't have a mW-level power meter so I can't easily verify
the IF power out, but the fact that twiddling a knob that doesn't have a
displayed effect on the K3 makes me suspicious it's at the rig end...)

73,
Rob, M0VFC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Second chance for V>M M1-M4 memory saves?

2013-10-29 Thread Wayne Burdick
Now on the wish-list. Unfortunately the list is long, and I have only ten 
fingers :(

Wayne
N6KR


On Oct 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Barry  wrote:

> I use M1-M3 as quick memories to get to the CW, SSB and RTTY parts of the
> bands, including the mode change.  Every now and then, instead of pressing
> M>V Mx to move freq/mode, I'll hit V>M by mistake.  Then, I have to
> reprogram the button.
> 
> Is there any way to enable an "Are you sure?" or similar prompt when
> overwriting a freq/mode with V>M?
> 
> Tnx,
> Barry W2UP


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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Interested in seeing operational KX3 - San Diego

2013-10-29 Thread Wayne Burdick
The KX3 I'm bringing has the 2-meter module, so maybe we can give VHF a try. 

Mt. Laguna is my favorite of the local San Diego peaks. I haven't officially 
done a SOTA effort--probably about time.

Wayne
N6KR


> Hi Wayne,
> 
> Thanks so much for your offer.  I understand you're one of the founders of 
> Elecraft and I'd love to meet you if I don't see a KX3 sooner.  I used to do 
> a lot of portable VHF in UK as G1YOA. Now I'm licensed here I'm thinking 
> similar thing but on HF.  We live close to some nice peaks here - ideal for 
> combined hiking/radio operation.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Gary
> KK6GXD



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[Elecraft] Re; K3 Loss of CW+SSB - FINAL

2013-10-29 Thread Bill Wiehe
In a effort to close the loop on this thread, the Navigator required the PTT to 
be off in the Configuration menu to allow cross mode operation.
 
Thanks to all here as well as Clint KK7UG & Greg AB7R on the Navigator 
Reflector for their help.
 
Best 73,
Bill - W0BBI
 


     


 OK. I just did some additional checking and it appears the my problem is not 
with the K3, but with the interface. My Navigator USB is not allowing the for 
transmit in SSB mode. I was able to confirm this by bypassing the Navigator and 
using the K3 internal keyer.  All is well when operated in that configuration.

Sorry to take up time and space here. On to the Navigator configuration site. 


Thanks,
Bill - W0BBI
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Internally Generated Signal

2013-10-29 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jim,

The K1 actually counts the VFO frequency, so if you have calibrated the 
CAL OPF frequency to the ARRL broadcasts, you should be good for that 
entire band.
The unfortunate part is that the ARRL broadcasts may not be exactly on 
the published frequencies, so do a double check several days running to 
be certain things are 'constant'.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/29/2013 7:45 PM, letsrun...@aol.com wrote:

Thanks for the responses. Now that I know it is a very weak signal I'm
listening for, I've listened more closely and I do hear a tone just  below the
band edges. (These old ears don't work like they used to). It  seems there
are too many variables to use this as an accurate signal to align  the K1.
  
Until I can connect with someone who has an accurate signal source, I've

aligned the K1 using ARRL code practice broadcasts. As long as I stay  well
away from the bottom of the band edges, I should be  okay? Comments?
  



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Interested in seeing operational KX3 - San Diego

2013-10-29 Thread Gary Hawkins

Hi Wayne,

Thanks so much for your offer.  I understand you're one of the founders of 
Elecraft and I'd love to meet you if I don't see a KX3 sooner.  I used to do 
a lot of portable VHF in UK as G1YOA. Now I'm licensed here I'm thinking 
similar thing but on HF.  We live close to some nice peaks here - ideal for 
combined hiking/radio operation.


Best regards,

Gary
KK6GXD

- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Burdick" 

To: "Gary Hawkins" 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Interested in seeing operational KX3 - San 
Diego



Gary,

I'll be down in San Diego, with KX3, for Thanksgiving. If you don't get your 
hands on one sooner, let me know.


Wayne
N6KR


Gary wrote:

I'm interested in purchasing a KX3 from Elecraft but would love to see one 
and talk to owner before purchasing.  Is there someone in the San Diego 
(I'm located 92131) area that would be willing to show me their rig. 
Thanks in appreciation.


Gary KK6GXD




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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Internally Generated Signal

2013-10-29 Thread Letsrun100
Thanks for the responses. Now that I know it is a very weak signal I'm  
listening for, I've listened more closely and I do hear a tone just  below the 
band edges. (These old ears don't work like they used to). It  seems there 
are too many variables to use this as an accurate signal to align  the K1.
 
Until I can connect with someone who has an accurate signal source, I've  
aligned the K1 using ARRL code practice broadcasts. As long as I stay  well 
away from the bottom of the band edges, I should be  okay? Comments?
 
73,
Jim
KI9M
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[Elecraft] [K3] Second chance for V>M M1-M4 memory saves?

2013-10-29 Thread Barry
I use M1-M3 as quick memories to get to the CW, SSB and RTTY parts of the
bands, including the mode change.  Every now and then, instead of pressing
M>V Mx to move freq/mode, I'll hit V>M by mistake.  Then, I have to
reprogram the button.

Is there any way to enable an "Are you sure?" or similar prompt when
overwriting a freq/mode with V>M?

Tnx,
Barry W2UP



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Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections

2013-10-29 Thread Mike Greenway
Greg, I spoke too soon.. I see that the Headset Buddy has one option like the 
Ant Lion for any headset with the magnet, but I now see they have one 
specifically for the QC15 with the mic and headphone cord all in one. I really 
like that as I had to lace the mic cord to the headset cord which works okay 
but the one Headset Buddy has is more elegant for sure.  I may have to think 
about it.  It looks really neat and I like using the QC15.  73 Mike K4PI

From: Greg 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:06 PM
To: Mike Greenway 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections

Mike,  

have you tried the Headsetbuddy option?  I just ordered one yesterday for the 
QC15.  I have not heard of the AntLion.

Tnx
Greg


 
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Mike Greenway  wrote:

  I have used several computer type mics on the back input as long as they are 
a 1/8 mono plug and the bias is turned on for the electret types.  They have 
all worked fine for me but to get them to sound better setting up the mic 
equalization in the Main Menu is needed.  I am using an AntLion at present that 
attaches to any earphone.  I am using it on a Bose QC15.
  73 Mike K4PI
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Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections

2013-10-29 Thread Mike Greenway
Hi Greg , I see the Headsetbuddy uses the identical mounting fixture that the 
Ant Lion Mod Mic uses.  I am not sure if the mic is the same but they both may 
be buying the units from BY and reselling them.  Here is the link for the Mod 
Mic from Ant Lion.  http://www.modmic.com/  After setting up the equalization 
mic menu I am very happy with it.  I have it set up for pile ups.HI.  73 Mike 
K4PI

From: Greg 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:06 PM
To: Mike Greenway 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections

Mike,  

have you tried the Headsetbuddy option?  I just ordered one yesterday for the 
QC15.  I have not heard of the AntLion.

Tnx
Greg


 
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Mike Greenway  wrote:

  I have used several computer type mics on the back input as long as they are 
a 1/8 mono plug and the bias is turned on for the electret types.  They have 
all worked fine for me but to get them to sound better setting up the mic 
equalization in the Main Menu is needed.  I am using an AntLion at present that 
attaches to any earphone.  I am using it on a Bose QC15.
  73 Mike K4PI
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Deaf

2013-10-29 Thread Don Wilhelm

Rob,

Look at the mixer carefully, especially the silkscreen outline on the board.
If it is installed backwards, the results will be much as you describe.

If the mixer is installed correctly, then you may have to build up the 
oscillator shown in Appendix A (or use a signal generator with much more 
output than the XG1 or XG2 can provide) and do the Receiver Signal 
Tracing steps shown in the manual Appendix A.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/29/2013 6:30 PM, Rob Gault wrote:

Initial receiver testing on 40 Meters (pg 67) can barely hear XG2/XG3 @
50uV.  I've injected the 50uV from the XG2 directly to the input of the
rcv. mixer Z6 @ R73, no change.  VFO Input to the receive mixer looks good
on a scope, no IF signal to be found at pin 1 of J12.  Q22 voltages
nominal.

I've eyeballed all solder connections and Caps and Resistors and confirmed
values.

We have confirmed the injection and testing procedure on a known good K2,
lots of IF signal at J12 pin 1.

Looks like Z6 is the problem?  Any other ideas or thoughts?




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Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread Don Wilhelm
That statement is only applicable to the actual electret element itself 
which has very low output.  There are very few bare electret elements 
available in the marketplace.


Practical implementation of the electret element uses a built-in 
amplifier inside the package that is normally sold as an "electret 
microphone element" - that amplifier does need a voltage to operate, but 
the current draw is quite low.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/29/2013 6:20 PM, David Woolley (E.L) wrote:
Electret microphones don't need any real bias, as the electret 
provides a permanent electrostatic field.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3/100 crackle on ANT1 transmitted signal

2013-10-29 Thread Scott on GMail
Hi Don,
Running the TX Gain calibration fixed the problem 
I discovered that the previous owner (and kit builder) did not run the TX Gain 
calibration at all.
Thanks for the help 
73, Scott

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From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com] 
Sent: 27 October 2013 11:35
To: Scott Larson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/100 crackle on ANT1 transmitted signal

Scott,

You mentioned doing the mW gain calibration, but said nothing about the
5 watt and 50 watt gain calibration.
I suggest you do all 3 TX Gain Calibrations - it is quick and easy using
K3 Utility.

I don;t know if that will correct your problem, but it has a good possibility.

As a side note (which may be relevant), most electret mics can use the "L" mic 
gain setting.  Using that lower range will give you more control over the mic 
gain and allow a finer setting.
To set the mic gain properly (you can do it in TX Test mode so you do not put a 
signal on the air), first set the compression to zero, then bring up the mic 
gain until you have 5 to 7 bars flickering on the ALC meter.  Then add 
compression as you desire.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/27/2013 6:25 AM, Scott Larson wrote:
> Hi,
> prior to fitting the KXV3A transverter board to my K3 I had always had good 
> tx audio quality reports.
>
> I fitted the KXV3A option 3 weeks ago and carried out the mW gain 
> calibration. I used the auto calibration in the K3 utility. It all went well.
>
> Since I fitted the transverter module my audio reports have mentioned a 
> "crackle" on speech peaks.
> I do not hear the "crackle" on speech peaks on the audio monitor.
> I use an electret mike with the bias on and the H gain setting.
>
> Is it possible that the mW calibration has upset the gain distribution in the 
> ANT1 TX path causing one stage to be overdriven?
>
> Advice on possible causes would be welcome?
> Scott
> GMCLQ
>

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[Elecraft] K2 Deaf

2013-10-29 Thread Rob Gault
Initial receiver testing on 40 Meters (pg 67) can barely hear XG2/XG3 @
50uV.  I've injected the 50uV from the XG2 directly to the input of the
rcv. mixer Z6 @ R73, no change.  VFO Input to the receive mixer looks good
on a scope, no IF signal to be found at pin 1 of J12.  Q22 voltages
nominal.

I've eyeballed all solder connections and Caps and Resistors and confirmed
values.

We have confirmed the injection and testing procedure on a known good K2,
lots of IF signal at J12 pin 1.

Looks like Z6 is the problem?  Any other ideas or thoughts?

73,
KC2VMP
Rob Gault
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Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
I believe the theory behind PC microphone connections is that the same 
connector will work for both dynamic and electret microphones.  Dynamic 
microphones use mono plugs, which short the "bias".  That isn't a 
problem as the bias is not a voltage source - it is actually the 
drain(?) load on the pre-amplifier in the electret microphone - so quite 
a high resistance source.  Any DC blocking is assumed to be in the PC.


Electret microphones connect the "bias" by having ring and tipped 
connected together.


Electret microphones don't need any real bias, as the electret provides 
a permanent electrostatic field.


--
David Woolley
Owner K2 06123.


On 29/10/13 15:22, MontyS wrote:


The rear mic jack is a mono, not stereo, jack.  It will short the ring
and sleeve together.  Audio is on the tip, as is the voltage.  The mic
should have a blocking capacitor to isolate the audio from the voltage.

This is standard for every radio I have owned.  If a stereo jack is
used, it would be for PTT, not a separate bias connection.



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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Internally Generated Signal (Long Response)

2013-10-29 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

Are you misinterpreting the meaning of "zero-beat"?
Zero-beat does not mean tuning the signal to zero audio frequency.

It does mean that the signal is tuned to the same pitch as another tone 
(the sidetone).  When the two tones are close in frequency, you will 
hear a 3rd low pitched tone - that is the 'beat note'. Its frequency 
will be the difference between the two tones, and will be heard as a WOW 
WOW sound.


When the WOW WOW tone gets slower and slower and finally the rate goes 
to zero, that is "zero beat".


So yes, when properly calibrated, and tuned to the carrier of WWV at 10 
MHz, the K1 frequency display is reading 1.0 which is where the K1 
will transmit.  If the BFO trim cap has been set properly, that carrier 
will be heard as a tone equal to the frequency you set as your preferred 
sidetone pitch.


Yes, if you 'do the math' on the VFO, Pre-mixer crystal and the BFO 
frequencies, you will find the frequency they calculate to is different 
from the dial frequency by exactly the pitch of the received tone, but 
that is not relevant to the use or the calibration of the K1.  One does 
not have to consider whether the receiver is using LSB mixing or USB.  
The offset is automatic when you set the BFO trimmer cap correctly.  The 
filter center is 4913 kHz (plus or minus a bit depending on the exact 
crystal set used), and to produce a 600 Hz tone, the BFO must be 
displaced by 600 Hz from that filter center - once that is done, the 
user does not have to be aware of the rest of the mixing frequencies - 
the dial reads the carrier frequency, pure and simple.


BTW, the K1 and many of Dave Benson's transceivers are quite similar - 
two Gilbert cell mixers and separate adjustments for the TX oscillator 
and the BFO.  The SWL series is the closest to the K1 design, but that 
does not inject the pre-mixer for mixing the VFO with a crystal for 
multiband use as the K1 does.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/29/2013 5:05 PM, Mike Morrow wrote:

Don wrote:


While what you say about the K1 display indicating the transmit carrier
frequency is technically correct, I believe you are over-complicating
things.  The K1 (and all Elecraft products) properly calibrated will
indicate the transmit carrier frequency - so when receiving 10 MHz WWV,
the display should indicate 1.0 kHz, and the transmit frequency will
be at that same frequency...

Hi Don,

I agree completely with the contents of your post.  But...the last sentence
quoted above is true **for the CW-only K1** only for the reception of a
**CW signal** that is producing a tone in the user's headphones that is
equal to the CW offset between the receiver zero-beat frequency and the
transmitter frequency.

I'll use an example.  Assume that a signal being received and the K1's
transmitted signal are both exactly on 1.0 kHz.  The properly-adjusted
K1 display shows transmit frequency at all times (1.0 kHz).  Next,
assume this K1's CW offset is 600 Hz.  In order to hear a beat frequency
(AF tone) equal to 600 Hz, the K1 LSB receiver's *zero-beat* frequency
must be 600 Hz *above* the received 1.0 kHz signal...1.6 kHz.
The K1's LCD indicates 1.0 kHz, but a signal received on 1.0 kHz
produces a 600 Hz beat note.  The only signal that would produce zero-beat
in this K1 is 1.6 kHz...the receiver zero-beat frequency.

But as you have said, we do *not* define the K1 CW receive frequency as
the frequency of a signal (1.6 kHz) that would produce zero-beat.  We
define it as the frequency of a signal (1.0 kHz) that would produce
an AF tone equal to the CW offset (600 Hz).  We reach the same conclusion
that the 1.0 kHz displayed is correct for both transmit and receive,
regardless of how we approach it.  :-)

OTOH, when we use this K1 to copy the LSB of WWV's 1.0 kHz *voice* signal,
we have no mode switch on the CW-only K1 as we have with multi-mode receivers
that eliminates offsets in receiver frequency and displayed frequency.  We
*must* tune the K1 receiver to zero-beat WWV's carrier (1.0 kHz) in order
to copy its LSB voice signal.  Since the K1 LCD shows transmitter frequency
...0.6 kHz below the receiver zero-beat frequency...this K1 will display .4
kHz as we copy those solar terrestrial indices at 18 minutes past the hour. :-)
If we transmit while zero-beat with WWV, anyone nearby who is listening to
WWV's LSB voice will hear a 600 Hz tone resulting from our .4 kHz signal.


If one follows the instructions in the manual, everything will
"fall into place" ... Done, no "fussing" - the key is that you tune
a received signal to the same pitch as the sidetone - the rest is
automatic.

We again have no differences.  Once in a while someone will come along
who thinks that setting the K1 sidetone in the menu will also set the
CW offset as well.  No such luck...that would be nice, but think of
the added complexity to make that happen in a K1!

I do not use Spectrogram...it's too sophisticated for me!

It really was

Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections

2013-10-29 Thread Mike Greenway
I have used several computer type mics on the back input as long as they are a 
1/8 mono plug and the bias is turned on for the electret types.  They have all 
worked fine for me but to get them to sound better setting up the mic 
equalization in the Main Menu is needed.  I am using an AntLion at present that 
attaches to any earphone.  I am using it on a Bose QC15. 
73 Mike K4PI
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Internally Generated Signal (Long Response)

2013-10-29 Thread Mike Morrow
Don wrote:

> While what you say about the K1 display indicating the transmit carrier 
> frequency is technically correct, I believe you are over-complicating 
> things.  The K1 (and all Elecraft products) properly calibrated will 
> indicate the transmit carrier frequency - so when receiving 10 MHz WWV, 
> the display should indicate 1.0 kHz, and the transmit frequency will 
> be at that same frequency...

Hi Don,

I agree completely with the contents of your post.  But...the last sentence
quoted above is true **for the CW-only K1** only for the reception of a
**CW signal** that is producing a tone in the user's headphones that is
equal to the CW offset between the receiver zero-beat frequency and the
transmitter frequency.

I'll use an example.  Assume that a signal being received and the K1's
transmitted signal are both exactly on 1.0 kHz.  The properly-adjusted
K1 display shows transmit frequency at all times (1.0 kHz).  Next,
assume this K1's CW offset is 600 Hz.  In order to hear a beat frequency
(AF tone) equal to 600 Hz, the K1 LSB receiver's *zero-beat* frequency
must be 600 Hz *above* the received 1.0 kHz signal...1.6 kHz.
The K1's LCD indicates 1.0 kHz, but a signal received on 1.0 kHz
produces a 600 Hz beat note.  The only signal that would produce zero-beat
in this K1 is 1.6 kHz...the receiver zero-beat frequency.

But as you have said, we do *not* define the K1 CW receive frequency as
the frequency of a signal (1.6 kHz) that would produce zero-beat.  We
define it as the frequency of a signal (1.0 kHz) that would produce
an AF tone equal to the CW offset (600 Hz).  We reach the same conclusion
that the 1.0 kHz displayed is correct for both transmit and receive,
regardless of how we approach it.  :-)

OTOH, when we use this K1 to copy the LSB of WWV's 1.0 kHz *voice* signal,
we have no mode switch on the CW-only K1 as we have with multi-mode receivers
that eliminates offsets in receiver frequency and displayed frequency.  We 
*must* tune the K1 receiver to zero-beat WWV's carrier (1.0 kHz) in order
to copy its LSB voice signal.  Since the K1 LCD shows transmitter frequency
...0.6 kHz below the receiver zero-beat frequency...this K1 will display .4
kHz as we copy those solar terrestrial indices at 18 minutes past the hour. :-)
If we transmit while zero-beat with WWV, anyone nearby who is listening to
WWV's LSB voice will hear a 600 Hz tone resulting from our .4 kHz signal.

> If one follows the instructions in the manual, everything will 
> "fall into place" ... Done, no "fussing" - the key is that you tune
> a received signal to the same pitch as the sidetone - the rest is
> automatic.

We again have no differences.  Once in a while someone will come along
who thinks that setting the K1 sidetone in the menu will also set the
CW offset as well.  No such luck...that would be nice, but think of
the added complexity to make that happen in a K1!

I do not use Spectrogram...it's too sophisticated for me!  

It really wasn't my intention to raise a discussion of K1 transmit and
receive definitions and offset adjustments.  I just thought it necessary
to explain why the spurs I listed in the original posting,

> The spur just below  7000 kHz occurs at  7 x 999.875 =  6999.125 kHz.
> The spur just below 1 kHz occurs at 10 x 999.875 =  9998.750 kHz.  
> The spur just below 14000 kHz occurs at 14 x 999.875 = 13998.250 kHz.
> The spur just below 21000 kHz occurs at 21 x 999.875 = 20997.375 kHz.

show up at zero beat on the LCD of a properly-adjusted K1 with 600 Hz
offset as follows:

> the  6999.125 kHz spur...zero beat should be  6998.525 kHz, 
> the  9998.750 kHz spur...zero beat should be  9998.150 kHz,
> the 13998.250 kHz spur...zero beat should be 13997.650 kHz,
> the 20997.375 kHz spur...zero beat should be 20996.775 kHz.

I could have said that instead of a zero-beat when tuned any of the four
frequencies shown above, my example K1 will produce a 600 Hz tone when
tuned to 6999.125, 9998.750, 13998.250, or 20997.375 kHz.  That avoids
the detail of CW offsets and sidebands.  But I can never tune for any
AF frequency just using my ears more accurately than tuning for zero-beat.
Dave Benson 15 years ago designed the firmware in his wonderful DSW-series
of mono-band CW rigs to require that the CW offset be set while comparing
two AF signals, one at 800 Hz, back and forth until they were both at
800 Hz.  Nasty work!  That and mode B-only iambic keying were about the
only things I did not like about the several DSWs that I built.

Thanks for your comments and for reading my approach.

73,
Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] KX 1 Question OT

2013-10-29 Thread Don Wilhelm

Dave,

I recall it was 2005 that the KX1 was introduced.  I missed that year at 
Dayton, but the next year my Elecraft project was to build my KX1 while 
at the Elecraft booth for everyone to see how that kit went together.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/29/2013 4:36 PM, dbellw...@aol.com wrote:

What year did the KX 1 hit the market?
  



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[Elecraft] KX 1 Question OT

2013-10-29 Thread DBellW6AQ
What year did the KX 1 hit the market?
 
73 and thanks, Dave
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] ATU killed my new KX1?

2013-10-29 Thread Paul Harker
Well, some days I'm dumber than others.

It was the keyer, not fully seated or had a bit of crud shorting it or ???

Unplugged it and now all is well. Checked out the keyer and it seems fine.
Plugged it back in still fine. I'm writing it off gremlins and/or
leprechauns.

So now my internal dilemma is whether to install the 30meter board, which I
have, or go nearly another hundred bucks to add 80 meter.

Choices choices...
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Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread Alan Ibbetson
Hello again. Thanks to so many people for their detailed help and 
suggestions. I seem to have solved the problem.


First: yes, Don is correct, this Plantronics headset microphone has tip 
and ring connected together, just like every other PC headset on the 
planet. That means my laptop offering bias on ring and Lyle offering 
bias+audio on tip makes no difference.


No I can't follow the herd and buy a CM500, because nobody stocks them 
in the UK and shipping from the US together with UK taxes makes the cost 
unreasonable.


This headset mic shows 6.8K to ground. I tried a different PC headset 
which shows 1K to ground and that one works perfectly with the K3 (and 
my PC of course). I'd also noticed that the Plantronics worked for a few 
seconds whenever I switched between rP.H bIAS and rP.H - ie when I 
toggled the bias in either direction, on or off.


So, on the grounds of "well, maybe I need to suck some current outa the 
K3 to keep a cap charged/discharged or bias the input correctly" I added 
a 1K2 across the Plantronics mic. Hey presto: we have voice.


Maybe someone who carries the KIO3 circuit in their head can educate us 
as to why the resistor bodge works, and perhaps put a range of values on 
it for the benefit of others who may tread this path with yet another 
flavour of not-Yamaha headset.


And now on to fiddling with TX EQ and suchlike. "Can you hear me, 
Mother?"


73, Alan

On 29/10/2013 14:32, Alan Ibbetson wrote:

Hi All,

I'm a new K3 owner so please be gentle.

I'm not a great SSB user so I want to use my cheap PC gaming/Skype
headset on the odd occasions I use sideband. It has separate 3.5mm plugs
for headphones and microphone so the K3's rear panel jacks seem the
obvious place for connection.

The Headset is a Plantronics 380. Although undocumented, I'd be
astonished if the mic is anything other than an electret condenser element.

The headset works fine on my IBM T60 laptop but doesn't work with the
K3. And yes, I have switched on the bias.

Poking about with a voltmeter and an unused stereo jack plug I find that
the bias on my laptop is +5V ring to sleeve. On the K3 it is +7.5V tip
to sleeve. I assume the audio is on the tip on the laptop and the ring
on the K3. I've not seen any other comments about this on the reflector,
but perhaps I have not looked carefully enough.

Why would Elecraft do it this way, so these gaming headsets don't work
without an ugly crossover adapter? Is there any non-soldering way to
change the connections on the rear panel Mic jack?

Thanks,

Alan G3XAQ



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Interested in seeing operational KX3 - San Diego

2013-10-29 Thread Wayne Burdick
Gary,

I'll be down in San Diego, with KX3, for Thanksgiving. If you don't get your 
hands on one sooner, let me know.

Wayne
N6KR


Gary wrote:

> I'm interested in purchasing a KX3 from Elecraft but would love to see one 
> and talk to owner before purchasing.  Is there someone in the San Diego (I'm 
> located 92131) area that would be willing to show me their rig.  Thanks in 
> appreciation.
> 
> Gary KK6GXD



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Re: [Elecraft] Re; K3 Loss of CW+SSB

2013-10-29 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


An interface can not generate PTT during CW if you are going to use
"CW in SSB" with the K3.  As soon as the external PTT is closed, the
K3 switches into SSB mode (e.g., at most one dit or dah).

microHAM microKEYER II handles this condition correctly by suppressing
PTT during CW if "CW in SSB" support is selected and the interface
determines that the K3 is in USB/LSB by decoding mode from the CAT
stream.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 10/29/2013 3:13 PM, Bill Wiehe wrote:

  OK. I just did some additional checking and it appears the my problem is not 
with the K3, but with the interface. My Navigator USB is not allowing the for 
transmit in SSB mode. I was able to confirm this by bypassing the Navigator and 
using the K3 internal keyer.  All is well when operated in that configuration.

Sorry to take up time and space here. On to the Navigator configuration site.


Thanks,
Bill - W0BBI
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[Elecraft] [KX3] Interested in seeing operational KX3 - San Diego

2013-10-29 Thread Gary Hawkins
I'm interested in purchasing a KX3 from Elecraft but would love to see one and 
talk to owner before purchasing.  Is there someone in the San Diego (I'm 
located 92131) area that would be willing to show me their rig.  Thanks in 
appreciation.

Gary KK6GXD
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[Elecraft] Re; K3 Loss of CW+SSB

2013-10-29 Thread Bill Wiehe
 OK. I just did some additional checking and it appears the my problem is not 
with the K3, but with the interface. My Navigator USB is not allowing the for 
transmit in SSB mode. I was able to confirm this by bypassing the Navigator and 
using the K3 internal keyer.  All is well when operated in that configuration.
 
Sorry to take up time and space here. On to the Navigator configuration site. 


Thanks,
Bill - W0BBI
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[Elecraft] [KX1] ATU killed my new KX1?

2013-10-29 Thread Paul Harker
Yesterday I finished building a KX1 and it appeared to be working fine.This
is an older KX1 with 1.01 Firmware.

Today I built the ATU. However on first use with installed ATU I
encountered a problem.

After installing the ATU I turned on the KX1 and selcted "ATU" from the
menu and attempted to start the calibration and alignment. However the word
"End" appeared in the KX1 display, and no amount ob button pressing or knob
turning appears to clear it.

I cycled power, and the display still reads "End".

I removed power, removed the ATU, and turned the radio back on: "End"

I attempted a factory reset by holding down BAND and MENU when powering up.
The display is blank until I release BAND/MENU and then again it displays
"End".

The only reference I could find to an "End" message was if attempted to
tune past limits, and the manual said it would flash. This message does not
flash.

Anyone have any idea what have I done, and how to un-do it?

Thank you -- Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] K3DSPUPGD In UK

2013-10-29 Thread Brian North
I had dealings with this Co. Cost me mega bucks for nothing??


Sent from my iPad

> On 29 Oct 2013, at 16:32, James Balls  wrote:
> 
> *Hi All*
> *
> *
> *Does anyone know if the UK agent for Elecraft, Waters and Stanton PLC have
> the K3DSPUPGD boards for exchange, or can they do the upgrade if i send my
> DSP board to them?*
> *
> *
> *I have tried emailing with the question but I get no answer.*
> *
> *
> *Regards*
> *
> *
> *Jim M0CKE*
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[Elecraft] Re; K3 Loss of CW+SSB

2013-10-29 Thread Bill Wiehe





Hi Bill, AE6JV

Checked with "vox" on and off. No joy.
 
Just to clarify, I do get one "dit" or one "dash" but no more when I hit the 
key. 
 
Thanks,
Bill - W0BBI
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[Elecraft] Attn: Olof, G0CKV

2013-10-29 Thread Rose
Olof, your e-mail address doesn't work for me.  If you see this
posting, please contact me at elecraftcov...@gmail.com .

73!

Rose - N7HKW
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[Elecraft] K3DSPUPGD In UK

2013-10-29 Thread James Balls
*Hi All*
*
*
*Does anyone know if the UK agent for Elecraft, Waters and Stanton PLC have
the K3DSPUPGD boards for exchange, or can they do the upgrade if i send my
DSP board to them?*
*
*
*I have tried emailing with the question but I get no answer.*
*
*
*Regards*
*
*
*Jim M0CKE*
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Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread Jim Brown

On 10/29/2013 8:22 AM, MontyS wrote:
The rear mic jack is a mono, not stereo, jack.  It will short the ring 
and sleeve together.


As Iain has noted, this is incorrect. It's a TRS jack that uses only the 
tip and sleeve contacts.



Audio is on the tip, as is the voltage.


Right.

The mic should have a blocking capacitor to isolate the audio from the 
voltage.


Nope. The mic includes a FET line drive that NEEDS the DC voltage to 
operate (the bias).  In general, the value of voltage is non-critical, 
5-8 VDC is in the range, and the voltage is applied through a series 
resistance in the range of 5-8 k Ohms.  That's what's inside the K3, and 
you can use your PC mic with other rigs by making a suitable adapter for 
them wired in this manner.


Every ham rig I've seen manufactured in the past 30-40 years provides 
bias voltage in that range on one pin of the mic jack, and the input is 
DC blocked by a suitable capacitor.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:22 AM, MontyS  wrote:
> The rear mic jack is a mono, not stereo, jack.  It will short the ring and
> sleeve together.

Pretty sure that's not true. I believe that the connector is a TRS
type, but the ring is not connected to anything. The schematic for the
KIO3 Audio IO Board shows this too.

73,

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread MontyS

Alan,

The rear mic jack is a mono, not stereo, jack.  It will short the ring and 
sleeve together.  Audio is on the tip, as is the voltage.  The mic should 
have a blocking capacitor to isolate the audio from the voltage.


This is standard for every radio I have owned.  If a stereo jack is used, it 
would be for PTT, not a separate bias connection.


Monty K2DLJ


Why would Elecraft do it this way, so these gaming headsets don't work
without an ugly crossover adapter? Is there any non-soldering way to
change the connections on the rear panel Mic jack?

Thanks,

Alan G3XAQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread Don Wilhelm

Alan,

In most cases, the tip and ring of computer microphones are connected 
together.  I don't know the particulars of your headset, but yours may 
be different.


Yes, the K3 applies bias to the tip contact.  It works with most 
microphones that way.
You may have to modify the plug on that headset if the tip and ring are 
not connected together (or build an adapter - it will be hidden behind 
the K3, so 'ugly' should not be a problem).
It should still work on the computer with the tip and ring connected 
together.

The alternative is to buy a Yamaha CM500 or the Elecraft ProSet K2.

73,
Don W3FPR
On 10/29/2013 10:32 AM, Alan Ibbetson wrote:

Hi All,

I'm a new K3 owner so please be gentle.

I'm not a great SSB user so I want to use my cheap PC gaming/Skype 
headset on the odd occasions I use sideband. It has separate 3.5mm 
plugs for headphones and microphone so the K3's rear panel jacks seem 
the obvious place for connection.


The Headset is a Plantronics 380. Although undocumented, I'd be 
astonished if the mic is anything other than an electret condenser 
element.


The headset works fine on my IBM T60 laptop but doesn't work with the 
K3. And yes, I have switched on the bias.


Poking about with a voltmeter and an unused stereo jack plug I find 
that the bias on my laptop is +5V ring to sleeve. On the K3 it is 
+7.5V tip to sleeve. I assume the audio is on the tip on the laptop 
and the ring on the K3. I've not seen any other comments about this on 
the reflector, but perhaps I have not looked carefully enough.




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Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread bill conkling
Just don't worry about it.  It'll work just fine.  Follow direction in manual 
to set levels and be sure 'rPL bias' is selected for mic. I have used the 
Yamaha CM500 as well as a common Creative Labs 'desk' mic with my K3.  All work 
well.  

...bill nr4c

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Alan Ibbetson  wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I'm a new K3 owner so please be gentle.
>
>I'm not a great SSB user so I want to use my cheap PC gaming/Skype 
>headset on the odd occasions I use sideband. It has separate 3.5mm plugs 
>for headphones and microphone so the K3's rear panel jacks seem the 
>obvious place for connection.
>
>The Headset is a Plantronics 380. Although undocumented, I'd be 
>astonished if the mic is anything other than an electret condenser element.
>
>The headset works fine on my IBM T60 laptop but doesn't work with the 
>K3. And yes, I have switched on the bias.
>
>Poking about with a voltmeter and an unused stereo jack plug I find that 
>the bias on my laptop is +5V ring to sleeve. On the K3 it is +7.5V tip 
>to sleeve. I assume the audio is on the tip on the laptop and the ring 
>on the K3. I've not seen any other comments about this on the reflector, 
>but perhaps I have not looked carefully enough.
>
>Why would Elecraft do it this way, so these gaming headsets don't work 
>without an ugly crossover adapter? Is there any non-soldering way to 
>change the connections on the rear panel Mic jack?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Alan G3XAQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread Walter Underwood
The MIC SEL menu item chooses between the front panel and rear panel mic jacks. 
I'd review the settings for that.

wunder
K6WRU

On Oct 29, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Alan Ibbetson  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I'm a new K3 owner so please be gentle.
> 
> I'm not a great SSB user so I want to use my cheap PC gaming/Skype headset on 
> the odd occasions I use sideband. It has separate 3.5mm plugs for headphones 
> and microphone so the K3's rear panel jacks seem the obvious place for 
> connection.
> 
> The Headset is a Plantronics 380. Although undocumented, I'd be astonished if 
> the mic is anything other than an electret condenser element.
> 
> The headset works fine on my IBM T60 laptop but doesn't work with the K3. And 
> yes, I have switched on the bias.
> 
> Poking about with a voltmeter and an unused stereo jack plug I find that the 
> bias on my laptop is +5V ring to sleeve. On the K3 it is +7.5V tip to sleeve. 
> I assume the audio is on the tip on the laptop and the ring on the K3. I've 
> not seen any other comments about this on the reflector, but perhaps I have 
> not looked carefully enough.
> 
> Why would Elecraft do it this way, so these gaming headsets don't work 
> without an ugly crossover adapter? Is there any non-soldering way to change 
> the connections on the rear panel Mic jack?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alan G3XAQ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 Delay Macro Execution

2013-10-29 Thread Wayne Burdick
You can introduce small delays by inserting one or more semicolons, e.g "". 
But there's no long-delay capability at present.

Wayne

On Oct 28, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Jim - W6VAR  wrote:

> I find I setup my radio in a portable environment a lot with different
> antennas. I like to clear all the ATU memories for each band when I setup. 
> 
> I created a macro that selects each antenna and clears the ATU memories on a
> band and move up one band. However, if I try to run this as a single macro
> 11 times for each of the bands, it doesn't complete (I'm guessing because
> the macro is being fed faster than the radio can react OR I'm exceeding the
> maximum macro length). Is there a way to insert a one or two second pause
> between steps or is there a better approach?
> 
> Macro for clearing one band of memories and moving up one band
> MN023;AN1;SWT53;AN2;SWT53;AN1;SWT10;SWT14;
> 
> Macro for clearing all memories:
> MN023;AN1;SWT53;AN2;SWT53;AN1;SWT10;AN1;SWT53;AN2;SWT53;AN1;SWT10;AN1;SWT53;AN2;SWT53;AN1;SWT10;AN1;SWT53;AN2;SWT53;AN1;SWT10;AN1;SWT53;AN2;SWT53;AN1;SWT10;AN1;SWT53;AN2;SWT53;AN1;SWT10;AN1;SWT53;AN2;SWT53;AN1;SWT10;AN1;SWT53;AN2;SWT53;AN1;SWT10;AN1;SWT53;AN2;SWT53;AN1;SWT10;AN1;SWT53;AN2;SWT53;AN1;SWT10;AN1;SWT53;AN2;SWT53;AN1;SWT10;SWT14;
> 
> Jim - W6VAR
> 
> Jim
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[Elecraft] WTB: Pignology PigRemote

2013-10-29 Thread Pete Meier
It's a long shot but can't hurt to see if someone wants to sell. 

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[Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread Alan Ibbetson

Hi All,

I'm a new K3 owner so please be gentle.

I'm not a great SSB user so I want to use my cheap PC gaming/Skype 
headset on the odd occasions I use sideband. It has separate 3.5mm plugs 
for headphones and microphone so the K3's rear panel jacks seem the 
obvious place for connection.


The Headset is a Plantronics 380. Although undocumented, I'd be 
astonished if the mic is anything other than an electret condenser element.


The headset works fine on my IBM T60 laptop but doesn't work with the 
K3. And yes, I have switched on the bias.


Poking about with a voltmeter and an unused stereo jack plug I find that 
the bias on my laptop is +5V ring to sleeve. On the K3 it is +7.5V tip 
to sleeve. I assume the audio is on the tip on the laptop and the ring 
on the K3. I've not seen any other comments about this on the reflector, 
but perhaps I have not looked carefully enough.


Why would Elecraft do it this way, so these gaming headsets don't work 
without an ugly crossover adapter? Is there any non-soldering way to 
change the connections on the rear panel Mic jack?


Thanks,

Alan G3XAQ
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Internally Generated Signal (Long Response)

2013-10-29 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

While what you say about the K1 display indicating the transmit carrier 
frequency is technically correct, I believe you are over-complicating 
things.  The K1 (and all Elecraft products) properly calibrated will 
indicate the transmit carrier frequency - so when receiving 10 MHz  WWV, 
the display should indicate 1.0 kHz, and the transmit frequency will 
be at that same frequency (no, one should not transmit at that frequency).


If one follows the instructions in the manual, everything will "fall 
into place" - I paraphrase:
1) change to FL3 and set the BFO trimmer (C20) to center the received 
noise in the filter passband at the desired sidetone pitch.  Note that 
this is quickly observed by using an audio spectrum analyzer (such as 
Spectrogram) running on the PC and connecting the headphone output to 
the computer soundcard.  The antenna input should be broadband noise, 
not a single frequency signal.
2) turn the switch on the bottom of the RF board to the TEST position 
and adjust the TX oscillator trimmer C13 to place the signal at the same 
pitch as the sidetone pitch.
3) Tune to a signal of known frequency (for each band) and change the 
CAL OPF menu parameter so the displayed frequency is the same as the 
signal frequency.  Note, tune the signal to the same sidetone pitch as 
you used above.


Note that these steps should be done in the order listed, each step 
depends on the one before it.


Done, no "fussing" - the key is that you tune a received signal to the 
same pitch as the sidetone - the rest is automatic.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/29/2013 2:46 AM, Mike Morrow wrote:

Jim / KI9M wrote:

To use these spurs to calibrate the K1 frequency display it must be 
remembered that, properly set up, the K1 LCD should show *transmitter* 
frequency. The K1 receiver functions in LSB mode on all bands with 
existing filter board designs. This means that if the receiver is 
zero-beat with 1 kHz WWV, the transmitter should actually be set 
to transmit a signal that is *below* 1 kHz by the amount of CW 
offset for which the K1 is adjusted. My K1 uses an CW offset of 600 
Hz. That means that when my K1 is zero beat with 1 MHz WWV, the 
frequency displayed should be 600 Hz below 1 kHz, or .6 kHz.


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY baud rate reverts to 75

2013-10-29 Thread Mike Harris
I use RTTY a lot and have not experienced this.  The 45/75 setting is 
remembered per band.


Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 29/10/2013 10:32, Mike K2MK wrote:

Hi Randy,

Same problem here. I thought I had figured out how to keep it at 45 baud but
I was mistaken. It always reverts back to 75. I'm using AFSK so it isn't
really a problem but I have the P3 with SVGA option and I normally have the
data display turned on. I'd rather see a correct decode instead of gibberish
on the external monitor used with the P3.

73,
Mike K2MK


Randy Moore wrote

Last night I returned to 20m RTTY for the first time in several days and
the baud rate had reverted to 75 bps.  I am certain it was 45 the last
time I was there. ???

73,
Randy, KS4L


On Oct 23, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Rick Prather <



rprather@



> wrote:


Randy,

I think you will find it is a per band setting.  So, once you set it to
45
it should be the same when you come back to that band.

Rick
K6LE



On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Randy Moore <



wrmoore47@



> wrote:


I have been playing with RTTY a bit lately (novice) using the K3's
decode/readout and sending with my paddle.  It works great for casual
QSOs
and quick DXing.  But I've noticed that the baud rate reverts to 75
(from
45) frequently.  I am using DXLab and frequently click on spots there,
but
that doesn't seem to be the culprit.  It seems to happen when I've
changed
bands and/or have power-cycled the K3.  I'm using FSK D mode, and I'm
not
using any other digital modes right now.  What's up with that?

73,
Randy, KS4L






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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY baud rate reverts to 75

2013-10-29 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Randy,

Same problem here. I thought I had figured out how to keep it at 45 baud but
I was mistaken. It always reverts back to 75. I'm using AFSK so it isn't
really a problem but I have the P3 with SVGA option and I normally have the
data display turned on. I'd rather see a correct decode instead of gibberish
on the external monitor used with the P3.

73,
Mike K2MK


Randy Moore wrote
> Last night I returned to 20m RTTY for the first time in several days and
> the baud rate had reverted to 75 bps.  I am certain it was 45 the last
> time I was there. ???
> 
> 73,
> Randy, KS4L
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Rick Prather <

> rprather@

> > wrote:
>> 
>> Randy,
>> 
>> I think you will find it is a per band setting.  So, once you set it to
>> 45
>> it should be the same when you come back to that band.
>> 
>> Rick
>> K6LE
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Randy Moore <

> wrmoore47@

> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been playing with RTTY a bit lately (novice) using the K3's
>>> decode/readout and sending with my paddle.  It works great for casual
>>> QSOs
>>> and quick DXing.  But I've noticed that the baud rate reverts to 75
>>> (from
>>> 45) frequently.  I am using DXLab and frequently click on spots there,
>>> but
>>> that doesn't seem to be the culprit.  It seems to happen when I've
>>> changed
>>> bands and/or have power-cycled the K3.  I'm using FSK D mode, and I'm
>>> not
>>> using any other digital modes right now.  What's up with that?
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Randy, KS4L





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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 Macro for Receive EQ

2013-10-29 Thread ab2tc
Hi,

No, unfortunately not. A feature request for this has come up regularly in
the past, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.

Knut - AB2TC


Jim - W6VAR wrote
> Is there a receive equivalent of the TE (transmit EQ) command for setting
> the equalizer on the receiver? I don't see it on the command set overview. 
> 
> Jim
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RTTY baud rate reverts to 75

2013-10-29 Thread Randy Moore
Last night I returned to 20m RTTY for the first time in several days and the 
baud rate had reverted to 75 bps.  I am certain it was 45 the last time I was 
there. ???

73,
Randy, KS4L

> On Oct 23, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Rick Prather  wrote:
> 
> Randy,
> 
> I think you will find it is a per band setting.  So, once you set it to 45
> it should be the same when you come back to that band.
> 
> Rick
> K6LE
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Randy Moore  wrote:
>> 
>> I have been playing with RTTY a bit lately (novice) using the K3's
>> decode/readout and sending with my paddle.  It works great for casual QSOs
>> and quick DXing.  But I've noticed that the baud rate reverts to 75 (from
>> 45) frequently.  I am using DXLab and frequently click on spots there, but
>> that doesn't seem to be the culprit.  It seems to happen when I've changed
>> bands and/or have power-cycled the K3.  I'm using FSK D mode, and I'm not
>> using any other digital modes right now.  What's up with that?
>> 
>> 73,
>> Randy, KS4L
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