Re: [Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires

2013-12-11 Thread F5vjc
It's true !
Very good Phil...fascinating discussion.

 73, F5VJC a Crimper


On 12 December 2013 02:39, Phil Hystad  wrote:

> My wife claims that ham radio operators only talk about boring subjects
> like "Antennas" when they are on the air.  I had to show her this latest
> stream on crimpers to prove to her that life in ham radio is not only an
> adrenaline rush but informative too.
>
>
> On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Harlan  wrote:
>
> > I run a calibration lab. We use go-no go gauges to test crimpers. The
> allowed tolerance for the gauges are three-ten thousands of an inch... yes
> good crimpers are an accurate instrument... and they should only be used
> with lugs/wire sizes specified for them
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
> >
> > Walter Underwood  wrote:
> >
> >> I agree. The point of a good crimper is to get a controlled force on
> the joint to create a reliable mechanical-electrical joint. Putting
> something springy in there, like insulation, is asking for trouble.
> >>
> >> wunder
> >> K6WRU
> >>
> >> On Dec 11, 2013, at 3:48 PM, bill conkling  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Crimping the wire over the insulation doesn't seem too good to me.
> >>>
> >>> I have used a dab of hot melt glue to stabilize the wire at the rear
> of the PP Plastic.
> >>>
> >>> ...bill nr4c
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
> >>>
> >>> EricJ  wrote:
> >>>
>  I don't usually do that because the wire exiting the APP barrel is
> still
>  just a small strand that flexes easily and can eventually break. It
>  gives you a lot more surface area for crimping, but needs strain
> relief
>  to be secure in the long run.
> 
>  What I do is strip the wire the same length as normal, then fold it
> back
>  over the insulation. I insert the wire and insulation into the barrel
>  with the wire down (away from the split in the barrel), then crimp
>  normally. This makes a solid electrical connection with the stiffness
> of
>  the wire insulation which also provides more than adequate strain
> relief.
> 
>  I've mentioned it here before and some are aghast, but I have maybe a
>  dozen connections like that currently in my shack and not one of them
>  has ever failed in the 10 years I've been doing it with APPs. But any
>  connection where this is necessary is a low voltage, low current DC
>  connection so what's it going to hurt? It isn't any worse electrically
>  than using a small wire nut which is considered safe enough even for
>  house wiring.
> 
>  Eric
>  KE6US
> 
> 
> 
>  On 12/11/2013 9:41 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> > A little off topic:
> >
> > I wonder if any of you do what I do when using wires are too small
> for
> > crimp connectors?  I strip twice as much insulation from the end of
> > the wire and then fold the bare wire over double.  May have to
> squeeze
> > using small nose pliers to get it doubled tight enough to fit inside
> > the crimp connector.  The crimps hold the undersized wire very well
> > with this procedure.
> >
> > BTW this works for solid conductor wire, like hookup wire.  Bend the
> > conductor double and there is something for the crimp to hold.
> >
> > I do not know if this will work with powerpole connectors.  My
> problem
> > was having too large diameter wire for the powerpole connectors which
> > inhibited proper crimping; solution chose proper size connector for
> > the wire size selected.
> >
> > 73, Ed - KL7UW
> >
> > -
> > Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:00:11 -0500
> > From: Don Wilhelm 
> > To: "Charlie T, K3ICH" , elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement
> > Message-ID: <52a86feb.2070...@embarqmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > Charlie,
> >
> > The PowerWerx crimper is good.  Just be certain to fill the cavity
> with
> > wire - for instance the 30 amp connectors are sized for #12 wire - if
> > the wire is smaller, it may be loose, so in addition to filling the
> > barrel with as many wire strands as I can, I add some solder for
> extra
> > security.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> >
> >
> > 73, Ed - KL7UW
> > http://www.kl7uw.com
> > dubus...@gmail.com
> > "Kits made by KL7UW"
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[Elecraft] Recovering from failure of KX3 firmware rev. 1.79 load ("ERR DSE", etc., shown on KX3 LCD)

2013-12-11 Thread Wayne Burdick
If you see "ERR DSE" on the KX3's LCD after attempting to load rev. 1.79 
firmware, and/or KX3 Utility reports a load failure, try the following:

1.  Tap the KX3's DISP button enough times for the ERR messages to go away.
 
2.  On the KX3 Utility Firmware tab, View Menu, check “Advanced Mode”.  Check 
boxes should appear in the Firmware Revisions group.  

3.  Check "Load DSP" but not "Load MCU."  Click “Send Checked Items to KX3”.
 
The DSP should now load.

If you still have difficulty, contact customer support. Note that we're also 
going to update KX3 Utility tomorrow to a more recent version that results in a 
cleaner load process.

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires

2013-12-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
The APP connectors offer support to prevent the wires flexing at the point
of entry to the connector *if* the correct size wire is used so the
insulation fits snugly. 

If I felt compelled to use an undersize wire I'd add a sleeve where the
insulation enters the connector - maybe some wraps of tape - to the wire is
held securely forcing any bending to occur outside of the connector.

It's my understanding (mostly from the avionics industry) that soldering
certain connections is not allowed or at least not recommended not because
the soldered connection might fail where a crimp wouldn't but wherever an
over-current might melt the solder and let it flow into undesired places. 

In my experience in the electronics industry, we chose crimping over
soldering because it was easier to train a new worker how to use a quality
crimp tool than it was to solder. Time = money, especially in avionics where
the turnover tends to be high.

That's not to suggest that crimping is not every bit as good as soldering
when done by someone with the proper training using a good-quality crimp
too. 

And like poor soldering, poorly crimped connections can work just fine for
years and years in many cases. Unless you are a manufacturer studying
failures of a lot of joints over time you may never see the difference
between an average soldered joint and a mediocre crimp join. 

73, Ron AC7AC



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of EricJ
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:44 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires

I don't usually do that because the wire exiting the APP barrel is still
just a small strand that flexes easily and can eventually break. It gives
you a lot more surface area for crimping, but needs strain relief to be
secure in the long run.

What I do is strip the wire the same length as normal, then fold it back
over the insulation. I insert the wire and insulation into the barrel with
the wire down (away from the split in the barrel), then crimp normally. This
makes a solid electrical connection with the stiffness of the wire
insulation which also provides more than adequate strain relief.

I've mentioned it here before and some are aghast, but I have maybe a dozen
connections like that currently in my shack and not one of them has ever
failed in the 10 years I've been doing it with APPs. But any connection
where this is necessary is a low voltage, low current DC connection so
what's it going to hurt? It isn't any worse electrically than using a small
wire nut which is considered safe enough even for house wiring.

Eric
KE6US

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[Elecraft] KX3 Production Firmware rev 1.79: DTMF, low-distortion FM RX, better SSB QRP behavior, etc.

2013-12-11 Thread Wayne Burdick
KX3 production firmware rev 1.79 (with DSP rev 1.27) is now available. Since 
the last production firmware release (1.61), we've made the following 
improvements:

  * Full support for KXPA100 amp and KXAT100 ATU

  * More accurate power output control in SSB mode for settings under 2 W

  * Lower-distortion FM receive

  * FM transmit deviation max now 6 kHz (was 5 kHz)

  * Added DTMF tone generation (FM Mode only) using numeric keys

  * DATA-A/AFSK-A mode bug fix: MIC GAIN control now works as specified. 
In earlier releases, adjustment of keyer speed while using the CW-in-SSB 
feature would leave the MIC GAIN control set to keyer speed 
even when the user switched to an audio data mode. 

**
IMPORTANT NOTE
**

You'll need the *most recent* version of our KX3 Utility application to 
download and install the new KX3 firmware. Older versions of KX3 Utility may 
not load the KX3's DSP firmware correctly, due to increased flash memory 
requirements. 

For instructions on obtaining KX3 Utility, see:

   http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/KX3_software.htm

Production firmware releases are automatically downloaded from our FTP server 
when you click "Copy Files from Elecraft" from within KX3 Utility.

73,

Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires

2013-12-11 Thread Bob

Hi Harlan,

Maybe if you could test and report on a few of the crimpers 
sold in the ham market that would be informative. Especially on coax crimpers.  
The good crimper frames show up on EBay for $75 to $100.   New the dies are over 
$100 per coax type.  I like Kings.


Possibily an article for one of the Ham magazines.

 But even with the good commercial crimpers I'm firmly in the 
anti PowerPole camp.


73,
Bob
K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR

On 12/11/2013 8:20 PM, Harlan wrote:

I run a calibration lab. We use go-no go gauges to test crimpers. The allowed 
tolerance for the gauges are three-ten thousands of an inch... yes good 
crimpers are an accurate instrument... and they should only be used with 
lugs/wire sizes specified for them

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Walter Underwood  wrote:


I agree. The point of a good crimper is to get a controlled force on the joint 
to create a reliable mechanical-electrical joint. Putting something springy in 
there, like insulation, is asking for trouble.

wunder
K6WRU

On Dec 11, 2013, at 3:48 PM, bill conkling  wrote:


Crimping the wire over the insulation doesn't seem too good to me.

I have used a dab of hot melt glue to stabilize the wire at the rear of the PP 
Plastic.

...bill nr4c

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

EricJ  wrote:


I don't usually do that because the wire exiting the APP barrel is still
just a small strand that flexes easily and can eventually break. It
gives you a lot more surface area for crimping, but needs strain relief
to be secure in the long run.

What I do is strip the wire the same length as normal, then fold it back
over the insulation. I insert the wire and insulation into the barrel
with the wire down (away from the split in the barrel), then crimp
normally. This makes a solid electrical connection with the stiffness of
the wire insulation which also provides more than adequate strain relief.

I've mentioned it here before and some are aghast, but I have maybe a
dozen connections like that currently in my shack and not one of them
has ever failed in the 10 years I've been doing it with APPs. But any
connection where this is necessary is a low voltage, low current DC
connection so what's it going to hurt? It isn't any worse electrically
than using a small wire nut which is considered safe enough even for
house wiring.

Eric
KE6US



On 12/11/2013 9:41 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:

A little off topic:

I wonder if any of you do what I do when using wires are too small for
crimp connectors?  I strip twice as much insulation from the end of
the wire and then fold the bare wire over double.  May have to squeeze
using small nose pliers to get it doubled tight enough to fit inside
the crimp connector.  The crimps hold the undersized wire very well
with this procedure.

BTW this works for solid conductor wire, like hookup wire.  Bend the
conductor double and there is something for the crimp to hold.

I do not know if this will work with powerpole connectors.  My problem
was having too large diameter wire for the powerpole connectors which
inhibited proper crimping; solution chose proper size connector for
the wire size selected.

73, Ed - KL7UW

-
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:00:11 -0500
From: Don Wilhelm 
To: "Charlie T, K3ICH" , elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement
Message-ID: <52a86feb.2070...@embarqmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Charlie,

The PowerWerx crimper is good.  Just be certain to fill the cavity with
wire - for instance the 30 amp connectors are sized for #12 wire - if
the wire is smaller, it may be loose, so in addition to filling the
barrel with as many wire strands as I can, I add some solder for extra
security.

73,
Don W3FPR



73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
dubus...@gmail.com
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires

2013-12-11 Thread Bill Johnson
Phil,
Don't forget tuners, amps, and power supplies.  Oh, let me not forget:
spectrum analyzers, ad infinitum.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:39 PM
To: Harlan
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires

My wife claims that ham radio operators only talk about boring subjects like
"Antennas" when they are on the air.  I had to show her this latest stream
on crimpers to prove to her that life in ham radio is not only an adrenaline
rush but informative too.


On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Harlan  wrote:

> I run a calibration lab. We use go-no go gauges to test crimpers. The 
> allowed tolerance for the gauges are three-ten thousands of an inch... 
> yes good crimpers are an accurate instrument... and they should only 
> be used with lugs/wire sizes specified for them
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
> 
> Walter Underwood  wrote:
> 
>> I agree. The point of a good crimper is to get a controlled force on the
joint to create a reliable mechanical-electrical joint. Putting something
springy in there, like insulation, is asking for trouble.
>> 
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> 
>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 3:48 PM, bill conkling  wrote:
>> 
>>> Crimping the wire over the insulation doesn't seem too good to me.
>>> 
>>> I have used a dab of hot melt glue to stabilize the wire at the rear of
the PP Plastic.
>>> 
>>> ...bill nr4c
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
>>> 
>>> EricJ  wrote:
>>> 
 I don't usually do that because the wire exiting the APP barrel is 
 still just a small strand that flexes easily and can eventually 
 break. It gives you a lot more surface area for crimping, but needs 
 strain relief to be secure in the long run.
 
 What I do is strip the wire the same length as normal, then fold it 
 back over the insulation. I insert the wire and insulation into the 
 barrel with the wire down (away from the split in the barrel), then 
 crimp normally. This makes a solid electrical connection with the 
 stiffness of the wire insulation which also provides more than adequate
strain relief.
 
 I've mentioned it here before and some are aghast, but I have maybe 
 a dozen connections like that currently in my shack and not one of 
 them has ever failed in the 10 years I've been doing it with APPs. 
 But any connection where this is necessary is a low voltage, low 
 current DC connection so what's it going to hurt? It isn't any 
 worse electrically than using a small wire nut which is considered 
 safe enough even for house wiring.
 
 Eric
 KE6US
 
 
 
 On 12/11/2013 9:41 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> A little off topic:
> 
> I wonder if any of you do what I do when using wires are too small 
> for crimp connectors?  I strip twice as much insulation from the 
> end of the wire and then fold the bare wire over double.  May have 
> to squeeze using small nose pliers to get it doubled tight enough 
> to fit inside the crimp connector.  The crimps hold the undersized 
> wire very well with this procedure.
> 
> BTW this works for solid conductor wire, like hookup wire.  Bend 
> the conductor double and there is something for the crimp to hold.
> 
> I do not know if this will work with powerpole connectors.  My 
> problem was having too large diameter wire for the powerpole 
> connectors which inhibited proper crimping; solution chose proper 
> size connector for the wire size selected.
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> 
> -
> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:00:11 -0500
> From: Don Wilhelm 
> To: "Charlie T, K3ICH" , 
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement
> Message-ID: <52a86feb.2070...@embarqmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Charlie,
> 
> The PowerWerx crimper is good.  Just be certain to fill the cavity 
> with wire - for instance the 30 amp connectors are sized for #12 
> wire - if the wire is smaller, it may be loose, so in addition to 
> filling the barrel with as many wire strands as I can, I add some 
> solder for extra security.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> 
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> http://www.kl7uw.com
> dubus...@gmail.com
> "Kits made by KL7UW"
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires

2013-12-11 Thread Phil Hystad
My wife claims that ham radio operators only talk about boring subjects like 
"Antennas" when they are on the air.  I had to show her this latest stream on 
crimpers to prove to her that life in ham radio is not only an adrenaline rush 
but informative too.


On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Harlan  wrote:

> I run a calibration lab. We use go-no go gauges to test crimpers. The allowed 
> tolerance for the gauges are three-ten thousands of an inch... yes good 
> crimpers are an accurate instrument... and they should only be used with 
> lugs/wire sizes specified for them
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
> 
> Walter Underwood  wrote:
> 
>> I agree. The point of a good crimper is to get a controlled force on the 
>> joint to create a reliable mechanical-electrical joint. Putting something 
>> springy in there, like insulation, is asking for trouble.
>> 
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> 
>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 3:48 PM, bill conkling  wrote:
>> 
>>> Crimping the wire over the insulation doesn't seem too good to me.
>>> 
>>> I have used a dab of hot melt glue to stabilize the wire at the rear of the 
>>> PP Plastic.
>>> 
>>> ...bill nr4c
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
>>> 
>>> EricJ  wrote:
>>> 
 I don't usually do that because the wire exiting the APP barrel is still 
 just a small strand that flexes easily and can eventually break. It 
 gives you a lot more surface area for crimping, but needs strain relief 
 to be secure in the long run.
 
 What I do is strip the wire the same length as normal, then fold it back 
 over the insulation. I insert the wire and insulation into the barrel 
 with the wire down (away from the split in the barrel), then crimp 
 normally. This makes a solid electrical connection with the stiffness of 
 the wire insulation which also provides more than adequate strain relief.
 
 I've mentioned it here before and some are aghast, but I have maybe a 
 dozen connections like that currently in my shack and not one of them 
 has ever failed in the 10 years I've been doing it with APPs. But any 
 connection where this is necessary is a low voltage, low current DC 
 connection so what's it going to hurt? It isn't any worse electrically 
 than using a small wire nut which is considered safe enough even for 
 house wiring.
 
 Eric
 KE6US
 
 
 
 On 12/11/2013 9:41 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> A little off topic:
> 
> I wonder if any of you do what I do when using wires are too small for 
> crimp connectors?  I strip twice as much insulation from the end of 
> the wire and then fold the bare wire over double.  May have to squeeze 
> using small nose pliers to get it doubled tight enough to fit inside 
> the crimp connector.  The crimps hold the undersized wire very well 
> with this procedure.
> 
> BTW this works for solid conductor wire, like hookup wire.  Bend the 
> conductor double and there is something for the crimp to hold.
> 
> I do not know if this will work with powerpole connectors.  My problem 
> was having too large diameter wire for the powerpole connectors which 
> inhibited proper crimping; solution chose proper size connector for 
> the wire size selected.
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> 
> -
> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:00:11 -0500
> From: Don Wilhelm 
> To: "Charlie T, K3ICH" , elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement
> Message-ID: <52a86feb.2070...@embarqmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Charlie,
> 
> The PowerWerx crimper is good.  Just be certain to fill the cavity with
> wire - for instance the 30 amp connectors are sized for #12 wire - if
> the wire is smaller, it may be loose, so in addition to filling the
> barrel with as many wire strands as I can, I add some solder for extra
> security.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> 
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> http://www.kl7uw.com
> dubus...@gmail.com
> "Kits made by KL7UW"
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires

2013-12-11 Thread Harlan
I run a calibration lab. We use go-no go gauges to test crimpers. The allowed 
tolerance for the gauges are three-ten thousands of an inch... yes good 
crimpers are an accurate instrument... and they should only be used with 
lugs/wire sizes specified for them

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Walter Underwood  wrote:

>I agree. The point of a good crimper is to get a controlled force on the joint 
>to create a reliable mechanical-electrical joint. Putting something springy in 
>there, like insulation, is asking for trouble.
>
>wunder
>K6WRU
>
>On Dec 11, 2013, at 3:48 PM, bill conkling  wrote:
>
>> Crimping the wire over the insulation doesn't seem too good to me.
>> 
>> I have used a dab of hot melt glue to stabilize the wire at the rear of the 
>> PP Plastic.
>> 
>> ...bill nr4c
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
>> 
>> EricJ  wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't usually do that because the wire exiting the APP barrel is still 
>>> just a small strand that flexes easily and can eventually break. It 
>>> gives you a lot more surface area for crimping, but needs strain relief 
>>> to be secure in the long run.
>>> 
>>> What I do is strip the wire the same length as normal, then fold it back 
>>> over the insulation. I insert the wire and insulation into the barrel 
>>> with the wire down (away from the split in the barrel), then crimp 
>>> normally. This makes a solid electrical connection with the stiffness of 
>>> the wire insulation which also provides more than adequate strain relief.
>>> 
>>> I've mentioned it here before and some are aghast, but I have maybe a 
>>> dozen connections like that currently in my shack and not one of them 
>>> has ever failed in the 10 years I've been doing it with APPs. But any 
>>> connection where this is necessary is a low voltage, low current DC 
>>> connection so what's it going to hurt? It isn't any worse electrically 
>>> than using a small wire nut which is considered safe enough even for 
>>> house wiring.
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> KE6US
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/11/2013 9:41 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
 A little off topic:
 
 I wonder if any of you do what I do when using wires are too small for 
 crimp connectors?  I strip twice as much insulation from the end of 
 the wire and then fold the bare wire over double.  May have to squeeze 
 using small nose pliers to get it doubled tight enough to fit inside 
 the crimp connector.  The crimps hold the undersized wire very well 
 with this procedure.
 
 BTW this works for solid conductor wire, like hookup wire.  Bend the 
 conductor double and there is something for the crimp to hold.
 
 I do not know if this will work with powerpole connectors.  My problem 
 was having too large diameter wire for the powerpole connectors which 
 inhibited proper crimping; solution chose proper size connector for 
 the wire size selected.
 
 73, Ed - KL7UW
 
 -
 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:00:11 -0500
 From: Don Wilhelm 
 To: "Charlie T, K3ICH" , elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement
 Message-ID: <52a86feb.2070...@embarqmail.com>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
 Charlie,
 
 The PowerWerx crimper is good.  Just be certain to fill the cavity with
 wire - for instance the 30 amp connectors are sized for #12 wire - if
 the wire is smaller, it may be loose, so in addition to filling the
 barrel with as many wire strands as I can, I add some solder for extra
 security.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 
 
 73, Ed - KL7UW
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[Elecraft] Strange K3 Lockup Problem

2013-12-11 Thread W0UCE
Has anyone experienced this strange K3 Lockup problem? 

For a second time my K3 locks up when I change bands while using N1MM.  The
first instance was two weeks ago when I entered a 20m frequency while on 15
meters.  The same thing happened today.  After the first lock up I called
Elecraft and Tech Support told me it was communications buffer overload,
shut down the radio, logging and any other software and reboot the computer.
The problem occurred the first time during an afternoon CWops Mini Test
event.  This morning no problem then this afternoon the lockup occurred
again which hints of a possible RF problem but why in the morning and not
afternoon?  I'll put a couple more clamp on ferrites on the microHam CW
Keyer power, USB and Keying Cable to see if it helps.

N1MM running on a one year old System 7 O/S, plenty of memory and nothing
but N1MM and microHam Router / microHam CW Keyer running.  The K3 receives
on whatever frequency it is on but no front panel controls function upon
lockup.  Shutting down the K3, KPA, N1MM, microHam Router doesn't
immediately resolve the lockup but wait 30 - 40 minutes and the K3 lockup
problem resolves itself.

Any suggestions will be appreciated:  Update firmware for example?   N1MM
and microHam Router / CW Keyer are latest versions.

Thanks in advance for any help or recommendations.
73,
Jack W0UCE

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires

2013-12-11 Thread Phil Kane
On 12/11/2013 3:48 PM, bill conkling wrote:

> Crimping the wire over the insulation doesn't seem too good to me.

I've been doing that for years.  All of the peripherals that run with my
K2 (RigBlaster, PSKmeter, etc) have their connectors so made.  Haven't
had any problems as long as one does not overstress the small diameter
wire by pulling on it too hard after it is installed into the connector.
 IOW handle the connector while making the joint.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires

2013-12-11 Thread Walter Underwood
I agree. The point of a good crimper is to get a controlled force on the joint 
to create a reliable mechanical-electrical joint. Putting something springy in 
there, like insulation, is asking for trouble.

wunder
K6WRU

On Dec 11, 2013, at 3:48 PM, bill conkling  wrote:

> Crimping the wire over the insulation doesn't seem too good to me.
> 
> I have used a dab of hot melt glue to stabilize the wire at the rear of the 
> PP Plastic.
> 
> ...bill nr4c
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
> 
> EricJ  wrote:
> 
>> I don't usually do that because the wire exiting the APP barrel is still 
>> just a small strand that flexes easily and can eventually break. It 
>> gives you a lot more surface area for crimping, but needs strain relief 
>> to be secure in the long run.
>> 
>> What I do is strip the wire the same length as normal, then fold it back 
>> over the insulation. I insert the wire and insulation into the barrel 
>> with the wire down (away from the split in the barrel), then crimp 
>> normally. This makes a solid electrical connection with the stiffness of 
>> the wire insulation which also provides more than adequate strain relief.
>> 
>> I've mentioned it here before and some are aghast, but I have maybe a 
>> dozen connections like that currently in my shack and not one of them 
>> has ever failed in the 10 years I've been doing it with APPs. But any 
>> connection where this is necessary is a low voltage, low current DC 
>> connection so what's it going to hurt? It isn't any worse electrically 
>> than using a small wire nut which is considered safe enough even for 
>> house wiring.
>> 
>> Eric
>> KE6US
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/11/2013 9:41 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>>> A little off topic:
>>> 
>>> I wonder if any of you do what I do when using wires are too small for 
>>> crimp connectors?  I strip twice as much insulation from the end of 
>>> the wire and then fold the bare wire over double.  May have to squeeze 
>>> using small nose pliers to get it doubled tight enough to fit inside 
>>> the crimp connector.  The crimps hold the undersized wire very well 
>>> with this procedure.
>>> 
>>> BTW this works for solid conductor wire, like hookup wire.  Bend the 
>>> conductor double and there is something for the crimp to hold.
>>> 
>>> I do not know if this will work with powerpole connectors.  My problem 
>>> was having too large diameter wire for the powerpole connectors which 
>>> inhibited proper crimping; solution chose proper size connector for 
>>> the wire size selected.
>>> 
>>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:00:11 -0500
>>> From: Don Wilhelm 
>>> To: "Charlie T, K3ICH" , elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement
>>> Message-ID: <52a86feb.2070...@embarqmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>> 
>>> Charlie,
>>> 
>>> The PowerWerx crimper is good.  Just be certain to fill the cavity with
>>> wire - for instance the 30 amp connectors are sized for #12 wire - if
>>> the wire is smaller, it may be loose, so in addition to filling the
>>> barrel with as many wire strands as I can, I add some solder for extra
>>> security.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires

2013-12-11 Thread bill conkling
Crimping the wire over the insulation doesn't seem too good to me.

I have used a dab of hot melt glue to stabilize the wire at the rear of the PP 
Plastic.

...bill nr4c

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

EricJ  wrote:

>I don't usually do that because the wire exiting the APP barrel is still 
>just a small strand that flexes easily and can eventually break. It 
>gives you a lot more surface area for crimping, but needs strain relief 
>to be secure in the long run.
>
>What I do is strip the wire the same length as normal, then fold it back 
>over the insulation. I insert the wire and insulation into the barrel 
>with the wire down (away from the split in the barrel), then crimp 
>normally. This makes a solid electrical connection with the stiffness of 
>the wire insulation which also provides more than adequate strain relief.
>
>I've mentioned it here before and some are aghast, but I have maybe a 
>dozen connections like that currently in my shack and not one of them 
>has ever failed in the 10 years I've been doing it with APPs. But any 
>connection where this is necessary is a low voltage, low current DC 
>connection so what's it going to hurt? It isn't any worse electrically 
>than using a small wire nut which is considered safe enough even for 
>house wiring.
>
>Eric
>KE6US
>
>
>
>On 12/11/2013 9:41 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>> A little off topic:
>>
>> I wonder if any of you do what I do when using wires are too small for 
>> crimp connectors?  I strip twice as much insulation from the end of 
>> the wire and then fold the bare wire over double.  May have to squeeze 
>> using small nose pliers to get it doubled tight enough to fit inside 
>> the crimp connector.  The crimps hold the undersized wire very well 
>> with this procedure.
>>
>> BTW this works for solid conductor wire, like hookup wire.  Bend the 
>> conductor double and there is something for the crimp to hold.
>>
>> I do not know if this will work with powerpole connectors.  My problem 
>> was having too large diameter wire for the powerpole connectors which 
>> inhibited proper crimping; solution chose proper size connector for 
>> the wire size selected.
>>
>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>>
>> -
>> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:00:11 -0500
>> From: Don Wilhelm 
>> To: "Charlie T, K3ICH" , elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement
>> Message-ID: <52a86feb.2070...@embarqmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Charlie,
>>
>> The PowerWerx crimper is good.  Just be certain to fill the cavity with
>> wire - for instance the 30 amp connectors are sized for #12 wire - if
>> the wire is smaller, it may be loose, so in addition to filling the
>> barrel with as many wire strands as I can, I add some solder for extra
>> security.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>
>>
>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>> http://www.kl7uw.com
>> dubus...@gmail.com
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Re: [Elecraft] XG3 Band Change

2013-12-11 Thread Fred Jensen

On 12/10/2013 8:27 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

Well, I HAVE heard of people going "down" to 10 meters. And 160 meters
didn't get the name "top band" for being down. But it's been a long, long
time since anyone I heard spoke in meters.

Been a ham since '52. Maybe it was my interest in the history of "wireless"
that indoctrinated me.

But I've learned to leave up and down out unless I'm specific about
wavelength or frequency.



On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:30:01 -0800 (PST), Neal Enault wrote:



In over 50 yrs of ham radio, I've never heard ANYONE on a lower band say
they are going down to 10 meters, or 6 meters.  My sentence above points
right at it.
I said a LOWER band.  Even the old timers said "I'm going down to 160
meters."
Why fight tradition?


In the early days of wireless, it was all wavelength ... "600 meters," 
which sort of made sense because your antenna often determined the 
"frequency" of your transmitter.  Hams were finally relegated to "200 
meters and down."  When vacuum tubes came along, we all began thinking 
more in frequency than wavelength.


The reason we Old Timers think in terms of frequency like everyone else 
is because, despite being old, we're not THAT old.  Those "wavelength" 
OT's are all dead now. :-)


73,

Fred K6DGW
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires

2013-12-11 Thread Fred Jensen
Best is to size the terminal to the wire correctly, but your method 
works just fine if you only need a pair and the terminal is too big.


I'm somewhat bewildered by all the APP problems being brought up.  I 
have the Powerwerx crimper, I've probably put together over 50 pairs of 
APP's and I've never had a problem.  Not one.  I've never had them 
disengage by themselves, and I've never had the wire pull out.  The 
crimper does an identical crimp every time.


I do *not* solder the terminal for the same reason one doesn't want to 
put strain on soldered connections like on a dipole antenna.  The heat 
will harden the copper making it more likely to break under strain. 
More of a problem with solid wire than stranded.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 12/11/2013 9:41 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:


I do not know if this will work with powerpole connectors.  My problem
was having too large diameter wire for the powerpole connectors which
inhibited proper crimping; solution chose proper size connector for the
wire size selected.



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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Power Poles

2013-12-11 Thread AG0N-3055
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 17:15:45 -0500, Bill W2BLC wrote:

> I have all kinds of "proper" crimpers. They do a good job in many cases. 
> I have never been a fan of crimped RF connectors for VHF/UHF, however, 
> most commercial installers use them with great success. Remember, those 
> connections usually only need lives of a couple of years. In hamdom I 
> build things to last for many years, so I do not have to revisit 
> anything down the road.
> 
> Hence, I crimp when I have the proper tool - then solder that same 
> connector. Only takes a few seconds and guarantees it will last as long 
> as I will. Do I like PowerX for DC connections in the shack? Not at all. 
> I much prefer crimped and soldered spade clips with screw terminal power 
> strips.  May take a little longer to hook things up, but it is sure solid.
>   Won't come apart with a slight tug either.
> 
> I also still measure power supply quality by weight.

Amen!  In some cases, I'm using coax with connectors that I installed in
the 60s!  You bet they are soldered, center AND shield.  Power supply
leads the same.

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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Power Poles

2013-12-11 Thread Bill W2BLC
I have all kinds of "proper" crimpers. They do a good job in many cases. 
I have never been a fan of crimped RF connectors for VHF/UHF, however, 
most commercial installers use them with great success. Remember, those 
connections usually only need lives of a couple of years. In hamdom I 
build things to last for many years, so I do not have to revisit 
anything down the road.


Hence, I crimp when I have the proper tool - then solder that same 
connector. Only takes a few seconds and guarantees it will last as long 
as I will. Do I like PowerX for DC connections in the shack? Not at all. 
I much prefer crimped and soldered spade clips with screw terminal power 
strips.  May take a little longer to hook things up, but it is sure solid.

 Won't come apart with a slight tug either.

I also still measure power supply quality by weight.

Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] Internal Antenna Tuner and SPE Expert Amplifier Questions

2013-12-11 Thread Reinaldo Leandro
I have been using and Expert 1K with my K3 for the last 4 years. A small and
excellent setup for an apartment.  
My antenna is a compromise no resonant sloper on most of the HF bands, I
have an automatic MFJ tuner ahead of the amplifier. Even barefoot I never
need the antenna tuner on the K3.
It is necessary to adjust the 1K for the default 50 ohms output as explained
in the manual.
73

Reinaldo, YV5AM 

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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Power Poles

2013-12-11 Thread EricJ
Why? Simple. While you were doing all that, a guy with a proper crimper 
would have completed the job, and be sipping his coffee waiting for you 
to complete yours. If you had been in the field at the time, he might 
have finished his coffee, and decided to loan you his crimper.


RC aircraft guys have this argument all the time between soldered Deans 
connectors and APPs. Strip, crimp, insert, done, anywhere, 
professionally. That's my reason.


Eric

On 12/11/2013 12:11 PM, Jim Brown wrote:



I think cost new less than $50?


Why would I want to spend $50 (plus shipping, of course) for a crimper 
when the soldering iron I already own works really well? Some of my 
techniques:


1) The biggest inserts are the most difficult to use, so I use them 
only for the #10 wire for which they are designed. I first carefully 
strip and tin the wire long enough so that the stripped conductor will 
just fit inside the shell once the pin is inserted. That's because the 
insulation of a larger cable often does not fit inside the shell. I 
find that liquid flux applied to the wire before tinning keeps the 
solder layer thin enough to fit in the insert. I then use the pliers 
to fold the "wings" over the wire so that, when soldered, it will fit 
in the shell.  I also use a drop of flux when soldering.


2) The middle-size insert will handle #12 if carefully stripped and 
tinned, as above. Again, I use flux for the tinning, and also for 
soldering to the pin.


3) I use a lot of the smallest inserts for small diameter cables, like 
those from small accessories. I strip the conductors long enough that 
I can fold the stripped part over itself with the folded length just 
enough to fit in the pin. Again, a drop of flux helps the soldering 
process.


4) I use a nice bench vise to hold the cable to which I am soldering, 
orienting the cable upward so that the pin sits on it, and oriented so 
that the V+ cable is on the right with the lip facing away from me.


Once the pins are installed, I mate a red and black shell, put the two 
shells in the vise, then carefully orient the pins and push them in 
one at a time until the lip latches to the blade in the shell. For 
smaller cable, I use a little green Xcelite screwdriver to push the 
pin over the blade.


In general, these techniques work well for almost any connector I need 
to install, all the way up to PL259s and multipins of various sorts


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity antenna experiences?

2013-12-11 Thread ai2n
I just disconnect the L from the coax center conductor AND the beta match coil 
using a heavy duty open frame relay.  Works for me.  Make sure the relay 
contacts get closed before the tx RF arrives.  I use K6XX's relay accelerator  
http://members.cruzio.com/~k6xx/radio/fastrely.pdf

73, Redd  AI2N


 W0FK  wrote: 
> Alan, how do you "float" your L? My L is relatively close to my receiving
> antennas, and I'd like to try that out and see if it makes a difference.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Lou, W0FK
> 
> 
> ai2n wrote
> > Additionally, you may want to "float" or detune your inverted L during rx,
> > especially if your rx antennas are close.  My tx antenna was re-radiating
> > quite a bit of noise; floating it cured the problem. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Revisions & Updates to K1-4

2013-12-11 Thread Mike Morrow
Mike - NZ1MT wrote:

> ...My power supply puts out a rock solid 13.8V,
> K1 display indicated 13.4V key down.

You likely already know that those two different voltages are
due to the normal voltage drop across the reverse polarity
protection diode RF-D16. 

I neglected to mention that 

  http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm

has ordering info for KAT1 version 1.30 firmware along with a
short description of the purpose of the last revision:

FWKAT1  KAT1 F/W Upgrade to 1.3. 
Increases matching range for loads that caused Plo message.

The blue-trimmer KFL1-4 board alignment is very stable over time.
I re-align my K1 every three or four years...not because it needs
it, but just because I like tinkering with it!  However, if I wanted
to have maximum power outputs on each band in the 6 to 7 watt range,
I'd need to align more often for that last little bit.

The final alignment of the KFL1-4 filter board trimmers must be
performed for the transmit function, not for peak receive function.
The trimmer adjustments are far more critical for transmit output
performance than for receive, so spending much time to tweak the
receive alignment is wasted by the final adjustment of the *same*
trimmers for proper transmitter performance, which alters all
adjustments that had been made earlier in receive mode.

The technique in the KFL1-4 and K1 manuals works well...it is
important to align with the Pout set for 2 watts.

Your KFL1-4 appears to be well-aligned already...consider that any
further tweeking that you make is principally for educational
purposes. :-)

73,
Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] K2: BFO range problem on early S/N K2

2013-12-11 Thread Don Wilhelm

Allan,

Not only is your range restricted, but likely the minimum and maximum 
frequencies are not as indicated in the manual.


While your suspicions about the BFO crystals may be correct, there may 
be other problems with soldering, L33 or the capacitors used.


For the easiest solution, order a set of BFO crystals and the BFOMODKT.  
Check the value of C173 - if it is other than 220 pF, get one of those 
capacitors too - a new C174 comes with the BFOMDKT.


While you are at it, you might want to consider doing all the other A to 
B mods, change the IF filters and KSB2 crystals to the newer crystals 
and do all the other modifications indicated in the K2 A to B 
instructions, including updating the firmware.  Your K2 will perform 
better for it.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/11/2013 2:47 PM, Allan Taylor wrote:

Hi,

We are working on an older K2 (S/N 152) to fix apply some simple mods
and generally update things. After doing some straightforward mods
  (control board exclusively) we decided to touch up the filter/BFO
alignment as the perceived bandpass seemed to be tuned a bit low.
  It went very easily until we were working on the CW filter settings in
CW-REVERSE. There, anything we did refused to shift the bandpass
appropriately. We then did a BFO test from the manual. The desired range
is 3.5 kHz or higher, this rig came in at 2.83 kHz and is likely the source
of
our problem. Reading somewhat in the manual, a L33 is referred to. We
haven't
pursued that angle as yet. So... the big question for the K2 gang is this:

what is the most likely cause of a too-narrow BFO tuning range? I personally
suspect the BFO crystal(s), but what do I know.

For reference, I did not build this particular unit although I did build a
K2 of the
same S/N series back in 2000. This K2 has not been used much at all but
seems to work fine otherwise.  This K2 got a ride on three major raft trips
this
past summer (in a Pelican case!) but I doubt that is the source of the
problem.

Any ideas? Things to check??



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity antenna experiences?

2013-12-11 Thread W0FK
Alan, how do you "float" your L? My L is relatively close to my receiving
antennas, and I'd like to try that out and see if it makes a difference.

73,

Lou, W0FK


ai2n wrote
> Additionally, you may want to "float" or detune your inverted L during rx,
> especially if your rx antennas are close.  My tx antenna was re-radiating
> quite a bit of noise; floating it cured the problem. 





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[Elecraft] Soldering Power Poles

2013-12-11 Thread Jim Brown



I think cost new less than $50?


Why would I want to spend $50 (plus shipping, of course) for a crimper 
when the soldering iron I already own works really well? Some of my 
techniques:


1) The biggest inserts are the most difficult to use, so I use them only 
for the #10 wire for which they are designed. I first carefully strip 
and tin the wire long enough so that the stripped conductor will just 
fit inside the shell once the pin is inserted. That's because the 
insulation of a larger cable often does not fit inside the shell. I find 
that liquid flux applied to the wire before tinning keeps the solder 
layer thin enough to fit in the insert. I then use the pliers to fold 
the "wings" over the wire so that, when soldered, it will fit in the 
shell.  I also use a drop of flux when soldering.


2) The middle-size insert will handle #12 if carefully stripped and 
tinned, as above. Again, I use flux for the tinning, and also for 
soldering to the pin.


3) I use a lot of the smallest inserts for small diameter cables, like 
those from small accessories. I strip the conductors long enough that I 
can fold the stripped part over itself with the folded length just 
enough to fit in the pin. Again, a drop of flux helps the soldering 
process.


4) I use a nice bench vise to hold the cable to which I am soldering, 
orienting the cable upward so that the pin sits on it, and oriented so 
that the V+ cable is on the right with the lip facing away from me.


Once the pins are installed, I mate a red and black shell, put the two 
shells in the vise, then carefully orient the pins and push them in one 
at a time until the lip latches to the blade in the shell. For smaller 
cable, I use a little green Xcelite screwdriver to push the pin over the 
blade.


In general, these techniques work well for almost any connector I need 
to install, all the way up to PL259s and multipins of various sorts


73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] K2: BFO range problem on early S/N K2

2013-12-11 Thread Allan Taylor
Hi,

We are working on an older K2 (S/N 152) to fix apply some simple mods
and generally update things. After doing some straightforward mods
 (control board exclusively) we decided to touch up the filter/BFO
alignment as the perceived bandpass seemed to be tuned a bit low.
 It went very easily until we were working on the CW filter settings in
CW-REVERSE. There, anything we did refused to shift the bandpass
appropriately. We then did a BFO test from the manual. The desired range
is 3.5 kHz or higher, this rig came in at 2.83 kHz and is likely the source
of
our problem. Reading somewhat in the manual, a L33 is referred to. We
haven't
pursued that angle as yet. So... the big question for the K2 gang is this:

what is the most likely cause of a too-narrow BFO tuning range? I personally
suspect the BFO crystal(s), but what do I know.

For reference, I did not build this particular unit although I did build a
K2 of the
same S/N series back in 2000. This K2 has not been used much at all but
seems to work fine otherwise.  This K2 got a ride on three major raft trips
this
past summer (in a Pelican case!) but I doubt that is the source of the
problem.

Any ideas? Things to check??

-- 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Buying CM500 in NYC

2013-12-11 Thread Bill Hammond
Hi Stew,
Even if you decide not to buy the CS500, B&H is a great place to visit.  It is 
a tourist attraction in its own right.  If you are a little interested in 
Photography B&H has the greatest collection of photographic equipment I have 
ever seen. 
Here is a movie (Ad) on B&H:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmN6pBEfSIQ

There are other NYC area stores too, Adorama for example.  I have no interest 
except a satisfied customer of both photo gear and headsets from Adorama and 
B&H.  

I have two CS500's and they are great at half the Illinois manufactures price 
(sorry to say).  To my ears they are more comfortable too, to me that is their 
appeal.
73,
Bill-AK5X
 



On Dec 11, 2013, at 6:30 AM, David Cutter  wrote:

> Here's a good alternative I bought in UK as advised by Tom G3OLB, price might 
> have changed:
> 
> " A good alternative I found for my K3, is the Koss SB/45, which is quite 
> comfortable during long periods of contest operation and has an excellent 
> quality electret mic. It's currently £20.98 free postage on Amazon."
> 
> 73
> David G3UNA
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "GW0ETF" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:16 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Buying CM500 in NYC
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Seems impossible to buy the CM500 in the UK so I was hoping to pick up a set
>> when I'm in New York next February...anyone suggest a good source? I have
>> heard B&H photo/video store is good and looks nice and central.
>> 
>> Also hoping to get a pair of Al stiffener plates for my (early) K3
>> synthesizer boards shipped over to the hotel from Aptos and avoid the
>> astronomical shipping charges to the UK.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Stew, GW0ETF
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Buying CM500 in NYC

2013-12-11 Thread Phil Kane
On 12/11/2013 9:42 AM, Jim Brown wrote about B&H Photo as a source of
headphones for the K3:

> They are a dependable source. I've bought various things from them for
> many years, always internet or mail order.

Ditto experience.  BUT - if one is in NYC, a visit to their enormous
store - just about a block or  so from Penn Station - is a
once-in-a-lifetime experience not to be forgotten.  I had to do that
about 7 years ago to get a Nikon lens in a hurry to replace one that was
damaged during a trip.  Just remember that they do close late Friday and
re-open on Sunday morning and similarly on Jewish holidays.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement

2013-12-11 Thread Bill Frantz
The problem comes with very small wire. I just acquired a YS-60 
watt meter in a trade and it has wires that are too small for 
the 15A pins. My solution was solder.


For high power connections, over 30A if I remember correctly, 
the National Electric Code frowns on solder because they are 
concerned that a bad joint will have high resistance, heat up, 
and melt the solder. I keep this item in mind when I do high 
power connections.


Also, don't hesitate to use a magnifier to check that the 
connector is completely over the spring. I had a APP connector 
that exhibited the "doesn't stay connected" and "high 
resistance" behaviors. I wasn't until I used a magnifier that I 
could see it wasn't assembled correctly. A strong push with a 
small screwdriver fixed it.


As a note for RigRunner users, DXEngineering has low value ATC 
fuses in 1A, 2A, and 3A. Mine are on a slow freight coming to California.


Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

On 12/11/13 at 9:52 AM, j...@jtmiller.com (Jim Miller) wrote:


I prefer to have an assortment of pins: 15a, 30a, 45a. They're cheap so why
take shortcuts?


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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Revisions & Updates to K1-4

2013-12-11 Thread Mike - NZ1MT
Thanks for the fast reply Mike! 

I forget to mention My power supply puts out a rock solid 13.8V, K1 display 
indicated 13.4V key down.

Will look into the other items thanks.

Mike - NZ1MT





On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:55 PM, Mike Morrow  
wrote:
 
Mike - NZ1MT wrote:

> Based on the K1 RF main board, KFL1-4, and KAT1 versions listed below
> I was wondering what other eprom revision updates and changes are
> available that I should implementing.
>
>K1 RF 2000 Rev D - MCU 1.09e

That's the latest version, AFAIK.  It's been unchanged since 2001.

>KFL1-4 Rev B 1.00 (blue trimmers) 

That's the latest version, AFAIK.  It's been unchanged since 2001. 

> KAT1 Rev C 1.20

There is at least one later version, rev. 1.30.  I upgraded from
rev. 1.10 about ten years ago, and noticed very little difference.

> The K1 power output is showing a solid 5W to a dummy load when
> OUT is set at P7.0. Not sure if the output could be increased
> or if the KAT1 power measurement should just be re-calibrated.

Whether or not any particular K1 will generate power levels much
above 5 watts depends:

1.  DC supply voltage needs to be around 14 vdc.
2.  All the filter board circuits must be peaked optimally.
3.  The KAT1 power detection must be properly adjusted.

Items 1 and 2 above are your first areas to check, since those
affect significantly the actual (as opposed to indiated) power
output.  Worry about the power indication accuracy afterwards.

Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires

2013-12-11 Thread EricJ
I don't usually do that because the wire exiting the APP barrel is still 
just a small strand that flexes easily and can eventually break. It 
gives you a lot more surface area for crimping, but needs strain relief 
to be secure in the long run.


What I do is strip the wire the same length as normal, then fold it back 
over the insulation. I insert the wire and insulation into the barrel 
with the wire down (away from the split in the barrel), then crimp 
normally. This makes a solid electrical connection with the stiffness of 
the wire insulation which also provides more than adequate strain relief.


I've mentioned it here before and some are aghast, but I have maybe a 
dozen connections like that currently in my shack and not one of them 
has ever failed in the 10 years I've been doing it with APPs. But any 
connection where this is necessary is a low voltage, low current DC 
connection so what's it going to hurt? It isn't any worse electrically 
than using a small wire nut which is considered safe enough even for 
house wiring.


Eric
KE6US



On 12/11/2013 9:41 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:

A little off topic:

I wonder if any of you do what I do when using wires are too small for 
crimp connectors?  I strip twice as much insulation from the end of 
the wire and then fold the bare wire over double.  May have to squeeze 
using small nose pliers to get it doubled tight enough to fit inside 
the crimp connector.  The crimps hold the undersized wire very well 
with this procedure.


BTW this works for solid conductor wire, like hookup wire.  Bend the 
conductor double and there is something for the crimp to hold.


I do not know if this will work with powerpole connectors.  My problem 
was having too large diameter wire for the powerpole connectors which 
inhibited proper crimping; solution chose proper size connector for 
the wire size selected.


73, Ed - KL7UW

-
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:00:11 -0500
From: Don Wilhelm 
To: "Charlie T, K3ICH" , elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement
Message-ID: <52a86feb.2070...@embarqmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Charlie,

The PowerWerx crimper is good.  Just be certain to fill the cavity with
wire - for instance the 30 amp connectors are sized for #12 wire - if
the wire is smaller, it may be loose, so in addition to filling the
barrel with as many wire strands as I can, I add some solder for extra
security.

73,
Don W3FPR



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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Revisions & Updates to K1-4

2013-12-11 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

You have already received information on the level of that K1, and I 
would not see any need to upgrade the KAT1 firmware.


The maximum power output on 20 meters may be limited due to several 
reasons, but the 5 watts does meet specifications.  If the actual power 
output matches the OUT menu parameter when set to 5 watts or below, the 
power control is working.
It is possible that the 22 MHz crystal on the 4 band board is a bit 
weak, or you may be able to obtain greater output by aligning the 
bandpass filters on the 2 band board.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/11/2013 12:34 PM, Mike - NZ1MT wrote:

Hi all,

I'm the proud owner of a K1-4  #1066 that appears to be working very well. 
Based on the K1 RF main board, KFL1-4, and KAT1 versions listed below I was 
wondering what other eprom revision updates and changes are available that I 
should implementing.


K1 RF 2000 Rev D - MCU 1.09e
KFL1-4 Rev B 1.00 (blue trimmers)

KAT1 Rev C 1.20
The K1 power output is showing a solid 5W to a dummy load when OUT is set at 
P7.0. Not sure if the output could be increased or if the KAT1 power 
measurement should just be re-calibrated.




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Re: [Elecraft] 'Ruggedizing' K2?

2013-12-11 Thread Don Wilhelm

Craig,

I built a K2 that was used for many years in the cab of an 18 wheeler.  
No special treatment of the toroids was applied and it worked FB over 
those years.  I (and Elecraft) recommend that no fixatives be applied.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/11/2013 12:53 PM, Craig Wadsworth wrote:

I'm taking my K2 on the road and am worried about things being shaken up a bit 
by engine vibration, etc.  What do y'all think about a few blobs of hot melt 
glue to hold coils and connectors in place?  I can always soften the glue with 
a heat gun and peel it off later as needed.  Other than a padded hard case and 
maybe big caps over front and back panels, what has already been tried?
73 de w9ctw
Craig Wadsworth



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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Revisions & Updates to K1-4

2013-12-11 Thread Mike Morrow
Mike - NZ1MT wrote:

> Based on the K1 RF main board, KFL1-4, and KAT1 versions listed below
> I was wondering what other eprom revision updates and changes are
> available that I should implementing.
>
>K1 RF 2000 Rev D - MCU 1.09e

That's the latest version, AFAIK.  It's been unchanged since 2001.

>KFL1-4 Rev B 1.00 (blue trimmers) 

That's the latest version, AFAIK.  It's been unchanged since 2001. 

> KAT1 Rev C 1.20

There is at least one later version, rev. 1.30.  I upgraded from
rev. 1.10 about ten years ago, and noticed very little difference.

> The K1 power output is showing a solid 5W to a dummy load when
> OUT is set at P7.0. Not sure if the output could be increased
> or if the KAT1 power measurement should just be re-calibrated.

Whether or not any particular K1 will generate power levels much
above 5 watts depends:

1.  DC supply voltage needs to be around 14 vdc.
2.  All the filter board circuits must be peaked optimally.
3.  The KAT1 power detection must be properly adjusted.

Items 1 and 2 above are your first areas to check, since those
affect significantly the actual (as opposed to indiated) power
output.  Worry about the power indication accuracy afterwards.

Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Buying CM500 in NYC

2013-12-11 Thread Rick Tavan N6XI
Yes, they're a good source. If you intend to visit them in person, note
their store days/hours of operation.

/Rick


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On 12/11/2013 9:25 AM, KC4LRR wrote:
>
>> I got mine from B & H
>>
>
> They are a dependable source. I've bought various things from them for
> many years, always internet or mail order.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires

2013-12-11 Thread Paul (N1HEL)
Yes, the "doubling over" method has worked very well for me (solderless) 
with stranded wire and manual crimping.  Holds very tightly.

 -Paul, N1HEL

- Original Message - 
From: "Edward R Cole" 

To: 
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Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires


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[Elecraft] 'Ruggedizing' K2?

2013-12-11 Thread Craig Wadsworth
I'm taking my K2 on the road and am worried about things being shaken up a bit 
by engine vibration, etc.  What do y'all think about a few blobs of hot melt 
glue to hold coils and connectors in place?  I can always soften the glue with 
a heat gun and peel it off later as needed.  Other than a padded hard case and 
maybe big caps over front and back panels, what has already been tried?
73 de w9ctw
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement

2013-12-11 Thread Jim Miller
I prefer to have an assortment of pins: 15a, 30a, 45a. They're cheap so why
take shortcuts?

jim ab3cv


fill connector barrel with wire before crimping smaller than #12.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Buying CM500 in NYC

2013-12-11 Thread Gary Gregory
And so is Sam Ash Music. $49.95 last time I bought and they shipped to
VK...:-)
On 12/12/2013 3:43 AM, "Jim Brown"  wrote:

> On 12/11/2013 9:25 AM, KC4LRR wrote:
>
>> I got mine from B & H
>>
>
> They are a dependable source. I've bought various things from them for
> many years, always internet or mail order.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] Lm

2013-12-11 Thread Bruce Micek


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Buying CM500 in NYC

2013-12-11 Thread Jim Brown

On 12/11/2013 9:25 AM, KC4LRR wrote:

I got mine from B & H


They are a dependable source. I've bought various things from them for 
many years, always internet or mail order.


73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] OT: Crimping small wires

2013-12-11 Thread Edward R Cole

A little off topic:

I wonder if any of you do what I do when using wires are too small 
for crimp connectors?  I strip twice as much insulation from the end 
of the wire and then fold the bare wire over double.  May have to 
squeeze using small nose pliers to get it doubled tight enough to fit 
inside the crimp connector.  The crimps hold the undersized wire very 
well with this procedure.


BTW this works for solid conductor wire, like hookup wire.  Bend the 
conductor double and there is something for the crimp to hold.


I do not know if this will work with powerpole connectors.  My 
problem was having too large diameter wire for the powerpole 
connectors which inhibited proper crimping; solution chose proper 
size connector for the wire size selected.


73, Ed - KL7UW

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:00:11 -0500
From: Don Wilhelm 
To: "Charlie T, K3ICH" , elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement
Message-ID: <52a86feb.2070...@embarqmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Charlie,

The PowerWerx crimper is good.  Just be certain to fill the cavity with
wire - for instance the 30 amp connectors are sized for #12 wire - if
the wire is smaller, it may be loose, so in addition to filling the
barrel with as many wire strands as I can, I add some solder for extra
security.

73,
Don W3FPR



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[Elecraft] K1 Revisions & Updates to K1-4

2013-12-11 Thread Mike - NZ1MT
Hi all,

I'm the proud owner of a K1-4  #1066 that appears to be working very well. 
Based on the K1 RF main board, KFL1-4, and KAT1 versions listed below I was 
wondering what other eprom revision updates and changes are available that I 
should implementing.


K1 RF 2000 Rev D - MCU 1.09e
KFL1-4 Rev B 1.00 (blue trimmers) 

KAT1 Rev C 1.20
The K1 power output is showing a solid 5W to a dummy load when OUT is set at 
P7.0. Not sure if the output could be increased or if the KAT1 power 
measurement should just be re-calibrated.

Thanks & Happy Holidays


73,
Mike - NZ1MT
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Buying CM500 in NYC

2013-12-11 Thread KC4LRR
I got mine from B & H...

RJ



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement

2013-12-11 Thread ac5p
I can vouch for the Tricrimp tool sold by West Mountain Radio.  It appears the 
same as PowerWerx in photos. 
Does NOT add to diameter of barrel when crimped as soldering might.  Good point 
made by Don below; fill connector barrel with wire before crimping smaller than 
#12.  
I think cost new less than $50?
73, Mike/ac5p
 


 From: Don Wilhelm 
To: "Charlie T, K3ICH" ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement
  

Charlie,

The PowerWerx crimper is good.  Just be certain to fill the cavity with wire - 
for instance the 30 amp connectors are sized for #12 wire - if the wire is 
smaller, it may be loose, so in addition to filling the barrel with as many 
wire strands as I can, I add some solder for extra security.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/11/2013 7:33 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
> OK, I see APP crimpers available from $10 to over $500.  How much would you 
> expect to pay for a "really good" crimp tool?
> 
> Not trying to be snarky, I just need an honest answer.  Some people say 
> regular pliers will work, but I would think this isn't the best solution.
> 
> Any suggestion for a good price on a good crimper and where to buy it?. Hint: 
> I am NOT going to spend more on the crimper than the radio is worth to use 
> these things.
> 
> Also, do you need a different crimper for different size APP's?
> 
> Feel free to reply off-list to hold down the bandwidth.  (pincon at erols dot 
> com)
> 
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jim Brown" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 11:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement
> 
> 
>> On 12/9/2013 1:36 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>>> I have been using APPs for ALL my 12v gear for > 6 years now, with no 
>>> problems at all
>> 
>> Same here -- I've built at least a hundred pairs of Power Poles. I use them 
>> not only for ham gear, but for all sorts of equipment that gets powered from 
>> low voltage DC.
>> 
>>> - all contacts are crimped, not soldered (once you've decided to go the APP 
>>> route, buy a really good crimp tool)
>> 
>> All of my Power Poles are soldered (and only soldered). I buy the red, 
>> black, and green shells and all three sizes of  inserts in quantity. I use 
>> the green ones for chassis bonding.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement

2013-12-11 Thread Don Wilhelm

Charlie,

The PowerWerx crimper is good.  Just be certain to fill the cavity with 
wire - for instance the 30 amp connectors are sized for #12 wire - if 
the wire is smaller, it may be loose, so in addition to filling the 
barrel with as many wire strands as I can, I add some solder for extra 
security.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/11/2013 7:33 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
OK, I see APP crimpers available from $10 to over $500.  How much 
would you expect to pay for a "really good" crimp tool?


Not trying to be snarky, I just need an honest answer.  Some people 
say regular pliers will work, but I would think this isn't the best 
solution.


Any suggestion for a good price on a good crimper and where to buy 
it?. Hint: I am NOT going to spend more on the crimper than the radio 
is worth to use these things.


Also, do you need a different crimper for different size APP's?

Feel free to reply off-list to hold down the bandwidth.  (pincon at 
erols dot com)


73, Charlie k3ICH


- Original Message - From: "Jim Brown" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement



On 12/9/2013 1:36 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
I have been using APPs for ALL my 12v gear for > 6 years now, with 
no problems at all


Same here -- I've built at least a hundred pairs of Power Poles. I 
use them not only for ham gear, but for all sorts of equipment that 
gets powered from low voltage DC.


- all contacts are crimped, not soldered (once you've decided to go 
the APP route, buy a really good crimp tool)


All of my Power Poles are soldered (and only soldered). I buy the 
red, black, and green shells and all three sizes of  inserts in 
quantity. I use the green ones for chassis bonding.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity antenna experiences?

2013-12-11 Thread Barry N1EU
Jim AB3CV wrote
> At this point my primary interest is 160m diversity implementations. Any
> suggestions based on experience with an inverted L and beverage? 

Jim, the inverted L plus Beverage should be an excellent combination  while
using stereo diversity.  That's exactly what I used in ARRL160.  Conditions
in ARRL160 (at my QTH) unusually favored the inv L as a receiving antenna
because of very low noise levels.  So this may have been a source of
confusion for why the Beverage wasn't a bigger contributor to reception.

The important trick is balancing the relative rx gain levels.  You can do a
pretty good job of this using band noise alone.  Generally speaking, you
should expect signals in the Beverage direction to be as strong or stronger
in the Beverage vs inv L and vice versa in other directions.

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[Elecraft] Wanted P3

2013-12-11 Thread bozidar
Hi to all,

wanted used P3.
Please offers from Europe on my e-mail > bozida...@yahoo.de

73 Bozidar



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement

2013-12-11 Thread Richard Thorne

Charlie,

The crimpers sold by DX Engineering, Powerwerx, West Mountain Radio and 
others are in the $40 range and work very well.  You can also get other 
dies for crimping pl-259's and other type connectors.  Its a very 
versatile tool.


An example 
http://www.powerwerx.com/crimping-tools/tricrimp-crimping-powerpole-contacts.html


Rich - N5ZC


On 12/11/2013 6:33 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
OK, I see APP crimpers available from $10 to over $500.  How much 
would you expect to pay for a "really good" crimp tool?


Not trying to be snarky, I just need an honest answer.  Some people 
say regular pliers will work, but I would think this isn't the best 
solution.


Any suggestion for a good price on a good crimper and where to buy 
it?. Hint: I am NOT going to spend more on the crimper than the radio 
is worth to use these things.


Also, do you need a different crimper for different size APP's?

Feel free to reply off-list to hold down the bandwidth.  (pincon at 
erols dot com)


73, Charlie k3ICH


- Original Message - From: "Jim Brown" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement



On 12/9/2013 1:36 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
I have been using APPs for ALL my 12v gear for > 6 years now, with 
no problems at all


Same here -- I've built at least a hundred pairs of Power Poles. I 
use them not only for ham gear, but for all sorts of equipment that 
gets powered from low voltage DC.


- all contacts are crimped, not soldered (once you've decided to go 
the APP route, buy a really good crimp tool)


All of my Power Poles are soldered (and only soldered). I buy the 
red, black, and green shells and all three sizes of  inserts in 
quantity. I use the green ones for chassis bonding.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement

2013-12-11 Thread Larry Ewan
Charlie,

No need to spend a lot.  These are as close to bulletproof connections as
you get and you can get compatible jaws or a ton of connectors. Comes with
jaws for 15/30/45 amp APPs.

http://www.powerwerx.com/crimping-tools/tricrimp-crimping-powerpole-contact
s.html

Larry N9JY
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>
>Any suggestion for a good price on a good crimper and where to buy it?.
>Hint: I am NOT going to spend more on the crimper than the radio is worth
>to 
>use these things.
>
>Also, do you need a different crimper for different size APP's?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement

2013-12-11 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH
OK, I see APP crimpers available from $10 to over $500.  How much would you 
expect to pay for a "really good" crimp tool?


Not trying to be snarky, I just need an honest answer.  Some people say 
regular pliers will work, but I would think this isn't the best solution.


Any suggestion for a good price on a good crimper and where to buy it?. 
Hint: I am NOT going to spend more on the crimper than the radio is worth to 
use these things.


Also, do you need a different crimper for different size APP's?

Feel free to reply off-list to hold down the bandwidth.  (pincon at erols 
dot com)


73, Charlie k3ICH


- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Brown" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Powerpole Replacement



On 12/9/2013 1:36 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
I have been using APPs for ALL my 12v gear for > 6 years now, with no 
problems at all


Same here -- I've built at least a hundred pairs of Power Poles. I use 
them not only for ham gear, but for all sorts of equipment that gets 
powered from low voltage DC.


- all contacts are crimped, not soldered (once you've decided to go the 
APP route, buy a really good crimp tool)


All of my Power Poles are soldered (and only soldered). I buy the red, 
black, and green shells and all three sizes of  inserts in quantity. I use 
the green ones for chassis bonding.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Buying CM500 in NYC

2013-12-11 Thread David Cutter
Here's a good alternative I bought in UK as advised by Tom G3OLB, price 
might have changed:


" A good alternative I found for my K3, is the Koss SB/45, which is quite 
comfortable during long periods of contest operation and has an excellent 
quality electret mic. It's currently £20.98 free postage on Amazon."


73
David G3UNA



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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:16 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Buying CM500 in NYC



Hi,

Seems impossible to buy the CM500 in the UK so I was hoping to pick up a 
set

when I'm in New York next February...anyone suggest a good source? I have
heard B&H photo/video store is good and looks nice and central.

Also hoping to get a pair of Al stiffener plates for my (early) K3
synthesizer boards shipped over to the hotel from Aptos and avoid the
astronomical shipping charges to the UK.

73,
Stew, GW0ETF



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[Elecraft] [K3] Buying CM500 in NYC

2013-12-11 Thread GW0ETF
Hi,

Seems impossible to buy the CM500 in the UK so I was hoping to pick up a set
when I'm in New York next February...anyone suggest a good source? I have
heard B&H photo/video store is good and looks nice and central.

Also hoping to get a pair of Al stiffener plates for my (early) K3
synthesizer boards shipped over to the hotel from Aptos and avoid the
astronomical shipping charges to the UK.

73,
Stew, GW0ETF



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Re: [Elecraft] PR6-10 Receiver Pre Amplifier

2013-12-11 Thread Ray G3XLG
Hi All

Thanks to Stephen, Mike & Don for your replies.

I already had the KXV3A option fitted & have now ordered the PR6-10 Preamp &
another DB15 Y cable so I'll be ready to go!

73 de Ray G3XLG



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