[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 PSK D and DX4WIN?

2014-02-06 Thread Milan Gütter, OK7GU

Hi,

Who is familiary with PSK D (Elecraft K3) mode?
DX4WIN generates audio stream (PSK31 from soundcart only).

How get the PSK D data stream?

Thanks for idea.

73,

Milan




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Re: [Elecraft] Fraud

2014-02-06 Thread Joe Lynch
Yesterday's Dr. Phil featured a woman who was bilked of $265k (see: 
http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/2163). I know my email is taking us a bit off 
topic but I believe it is worth watching the vidio, if only for our education 
concerning the insidious persistence in which the man pursued her.

Sincerely,

Joe Lynch, N6CL




 From: Mark Stennett m...@stennett.com
To: Bill Ross k6...@verizon.net 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fraud
 

Nigerian scammer. These clowns have discovered ham radio, unfortunately.

Be very cautious on the Internet. Trust no one and thoroughly vet your seller 
before sending money.

I am seeing more and more of this stuff on eham. I manage the classifieds there.

I had a recent case where a ham had his qrz account compromised because of an 
email that linked to a fake qrz page where he then logged in. What made this 
incident different from the tens of others I deal with on a monthly basis was 
that he apparently used the same password at the FCC. The scammer changed his 
address with the FCC to one used by a third party to receive a cashiers check. 
Scammer posted an ad on eham using same password and scammed a guy out of a 
grand for a non existent amplifier.

Victim was asked to make check out to a third party name.

The Internet is a nasty sewer full of scammers.


73 de na6m


On Feb 5, 2014, at 20:13, Bill Ross k6...@verizon.net wrote:

 Just a heads up to all on the list, someone is posing as me, William H. Ross 
 at k6mg...@aol.com and listing a K3/P3 station with all equipment for $2950. 
 I don’t have a P3, but do have a K3 which is not for sale now, around 
 Christmas time, I did post an ad on QRZ listing my K3 for sale, and per QRZ’s 
 requirements, sent a picture of the K3 with a QSL card in the picture to 
 authenticate it which this person copied and posted on QTH with the phony ad. 
 I have received emails and phone calls from several hams wanting to inquire 
 if the ad was on the up and up, which of course, it wasn’t. 
 So if anyone see’s this ad or hears about anyone wanting to buy this 
 equipment, please warn them that the ad is a fraud.
 
 Tnx and 73
 
 Bill, k6mgo
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[Elecraft] [K3 / KX3] USB-to-Serial Adapter

2014-02-06 Thread Joel Black
In late 2012, I bought an iMac. I really like the iMac except for one 
glaring feature - it is quite limited in the number of ports available 
for communication to various rigs. Several months ago, I read about a 
GearMo 4-port USB-to-serial adapter. Last week I purchased one and it 
arrived Tuesday.


My first question was answered as I looked at the DB9 connectors - 
they're labeled 1, 2, 3, 4.


I just plugged it into the back of my iMac and connected to my K3, my 
FT-847 (VHF/UHF/satellite rig), and the serial cable for my KX3 (with 
one port left over that I coiled up and put behind my desk. Using the 
latest KX3 Utility, I was able to upgrade the F/W from 1.61 (I think?) 
to the latest available. I have been using RUMlog with both the K3 and 
the KX3 with no issues. I was also able to create a symbolic link when 
using CrossOver and SatPC32 (a satellite tracking package written for 
Windows) for the FT-847.


I didn't have to install any drivers - it worked right out of the box. 
Doing an ls under /dev from the terminal, I have four new serial ports:


tty.usbserial-FTWU1P3UA
tty.usbserial-FTWU1P3UB
tty.usbserial-FTWU1P3UC
tty.usbserial-FTWU1P3UD

The GearMo adapter uses an FTDI chipset. Doing a little searching, I 
found one for just under $50.


On my VM (Win7 x64), I had to uninstall the old FTDI and install the 
new. I did this by unplugging the GearMo and plugging it back in while 
in my VM. The only problem I have with the VM is that it is not turning 
on upon VM boot. That's a settings issue that I'll fix later.


The usual disclaimer holds - I have no affiliation with GearMo or any of 
its suppliers, subsidies, or vendors. After 12 hours, I'm just a happy 
customer.


73,
Joel - W4JBB


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Re: [Elecraft] DSP and the KX3

2014-02-06 Thread Ralf Wilhelm
The main approach for solving the multipath problem would be a long symbol 
duration and some interleaving for error correction. The symbols should be 
longer than a typical delay between two paths.

Since the phase measurements on a typical hf channel cannot be very sensitive 
because of noise, the symbol would be distributed on several simultaneous 
carriers (that is the approach used e.g. in DRM digital shortwave broadcast and 
in the european DVB-T television standard - and FreeDV without the 
interleaving). Long symbols plus interleaving would introduce some delay into 
the communication. 

FreeDV uses (I believe) 14 carriers (differential phase keying) and roughly 
1500 bits/sec, resulting in a symbol length of 10 ms which is in the order of 
magnitude of a typical multipath delay (as reported by VOACAP propagation 
software or by the DRM channel analysis graph in Dream) Since FreeDV does not 
use any interleaving for error correction, the only delay is the symbol length 
(plus some processing time). I guess the individual carriers would need a 
signal/noise ratio that is similar to one of the PSK (maybe PSK125?) modes in 
order to be reliably detected.

 The problem is, the multipath delays on the channel (in time) correspond to a 
sum of sine functions in frequency space - if two paths are about the same 
strength, they could completely interfere out on some frequencies causing 
individual carriers disappearing in the noise - I have no idea what FreeDV does 
if one carrier is completely missing.

 This same problem occurs with analog signals. Much of the information 
transported by the voice consists of the relative phase/amplitude relations of 
the pitch (fundamental frequency of the voice) and its higher harmonics (this 
is basically the largest fraction of the information the FreeDV Codec converts 
into a bitstream). If your channel destroys this information by taking many (or 
the most significant) of the higher harmonics out, you can not read the audio 
any more. If the individual harmonics are not burried in the noise, it should 
however be possible to restore amplitude/phase information by applying the 
reverse of the transfer function of the hf channel to the signal in Fourier 
space. Maybe, a kind of equalizer that not only aligns the frequency bands 
but also the relative phases could be used. The main problem is the large 
number of parameters you would have to align (two per aditional path - one 
corresponding to the delay plus one corresponding to a relative ampl
 itude), if more than two paths are present.

However, I am no expert in DSP, and not sure if this approach would result in a 
causality problem...

Greetings

Ralf, DL6OAP



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and the LDG AT 600 Pro II

2014-02-06 Thread Robert Biamonte

Hey Don,
That was the solution.  I'm still trying to get through the K3 manual  
and never saw that setting.  I set the tune level to 4 watts, exited  
the menu and with the K3 set to first 50w, I hit the K3 tune button  
and the power dropped to 4w and the LDG 600 Pro II tuned just fine!!


Tnx,
73
Rob

On Feb 6, 2014, at 12:02 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:


Rob,

Take a look at the manual for CONFIG: TUN PWR - that will set the  
power level used for a TUNE.
If set to NOR, it will follow the power knob, but otherwise will  
TUNE at the power set in the menu.


ATU TUN is different than TUNE.

73,
Don W3FPR



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: PIC programming hardware and software informatio

2014-02-06 Thread John J. McDonough
 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:20:34 -0800 (PST)
 From: Lee Buller k...@swbell.net
 To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] OT:  PIC programming hardware and software
   information
 Message-ID:
   1391620834.91622.yahoomail...@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 
 
 I know there are a lot of you people who are into PIC programming and I am 
 looking at doing so.
 
 After reading for many hours in the Internet, I have become awash in PIC 
 programming hardware and software.? I need someone who is knowledgeable to 
 recommend something to me to get into this field.? Requirements are:
 
 I would like to build it myself (DIY)
 USB or RS232
 No Parallel
 I would like to program 18F stuff but others would be good too.
 Software?

Microchip's MPLAB-X is the software.  Free, incredibly powerful,
platform-agnostic.

For hardware it gets a little more involved.  These days DIY programmers
are getting pretty scarce.  It is easy to build a serial port
programmer, practically impossible anymore to find programming software
that works with it, although is you are sticking to Windows XP prior to
SP3 or Linux there are options.

There are dozens, maybe hundreds of third-party programmers.  With any
of the third-party programmers you can expect limitations on the variety
of PICs you can program, and often you need to use them with
vendor-specific software as well.

I would recommend using Microchip's programming hardware, and there are
two current choices for hobbyists.

The PICkit 3 is quite low priced, integrates seamlessly with MPLAB-X,
can be used both as a programmer and debugger, and connects to your
target project with a six pin header, so very cheap and simple.

The ICD 3 is fairly expensive, integrates seamlessly with MPLAB-X, can
be used both as a programmer and debugger, and connects to your target
project with an RJ-12 plug which is kind of perfboard-unfriendly.

The PICkit supports most PICs and is generally kept up to date on the
newer models as they come out.  The ICD 3 supports all PICS and being
the flagship, supports new PICs before they are available.

The ICD 3 is also many times faster than the PICkit.  You probably won't
see the difference with the PIC18, but if you move to more powerful PICs
the difference is significant.

At this point in time, unless you are planning on sticking to very
simple projects or plan on commercializing your products I would
investigate the newer families like the dsPIC30F or even the PIC32.
These are much easier to use, way more powerful, and only slightly more
expensive.  More expensive is an issue if you want to ship thousands of
copies but for one off even a fairly expensive dsPIC isn't a big deal.
The most expensive dsPICs are still around $10 and most are half that.

Consider: PIC32MX150F128B-I/SP - 28 pin SPDIP, 78 MIPS, 128K flash, 32K
RAM, $3.12 quantity one.  PIC18F2550-I/SP, 12 MIPS, 32K flash, 2K RAM,
$4.30. Both parts support USB, the PIC32 is far easier to work with,
except it is a 3 volt part.  The dsPIC30 series is 5 volt,
dsPIC30F4012-30I/SP, same package, 30 MIPS, 48K flash, 2K RAM, doesn't
support USB but does include the DSP engine, $5.32.  

Of course, if you are willing to work with surface mount packages, the
options are much broader.

I would stick to the Microchip stuff because it is far less hassle and
gives you the broadest options. You might pay a couple bucks more for
the programmer, but you will be paid back in far less hassle.

I had contemplated doing an Elmer 160 like course for the dsPIC, but I
don't think I'm going to have the time for that.  But, there is a video
at

  http://elmer166.org 

that gives you a feel for MPLAB-X.  (Much easier to watch if you go to
YouTube and select HD quality). MPLAB-X has gotten a little slicker
since I did that video, but it is basically the same.  The video shows
making a project, compiling, simulating and running on a homebrew target
board in under 4 minutes.  The page also contains links to a repository
with dozens of dsPIC examples and a blog with ruminations on selecting a
particular PIC.

73 de WB8RCR



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[Elecraft] Silent Key

2014-02-06 Thread sanford.musgrove
Please remove sanford.musgr...@gmail.com from the Elecraft mailing list.


Thank you,

Sherry Musgrove, WA5SYU



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Re: [Elecraft] # 5607 first contact QRP!

2014-02-06 Thread Dave Barr
QRP works!  Bottom line is that if you want a lot of DX contacts, you 
need at least a dipole.  With a K2 built in '99, a dipole and a 
tribander (bad qrp word) K2YG has worked 261 countries at 5 watts on 
rtty and 108 with 1 watt.  Many of these are on 40, 17 and 12 meters 
with only the dipole, such as VQ9 on 40 with 5w and VU on 12 with one 
watt.  CW is even easier, but SSB is tougher.  So, throw up a wire with 
open feed if possible, even indoors (with coax feed) if you can attach 
it to the house ridge pole, and avoid verticals and small antennas.   
Then, add patience and persistence.


73, Dave, K2YG


On 2/6/2014 12:02 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

--

Message: 25
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 18:11:58 -0800
From: EricJeric_c...@hotmail.com
To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] # 5607 first contact QRP!
Message-ID:blu0-smtp1005d64f825fa84983c84188e...@phx.gbl
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

And that's an important point, Don. A poor antenna hooked to a 5 watt
rig is no different than a poor antenna hooked to a 100 watt rig...in
receive. Power sometimes gives you an advantage on transmit under
marginal conditions, but it does nothing on receive as you mention. Then
you run into the classic can't work 'em if you can't hear them barrier
no matter how much power you run.

I have three boatanchors (2NT, DX40 and Ranger) and they run around
50-65 watts INPUT. That's what 90% of hams ran in the 50s and 60s and
that's only an S unit or so better than my K1 or K2/10.

Anyway, I said what I wanted to say which is most of the argument
applies to any power level, not just QRP. Part 97 says run no more power
than necessary. QRP meets that criteria for the majority of operating.

Eric
KE6US

On 2/5/2014 4:23 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Yes, there are many QRPer's who also frown on beams and other
efficient antennas, but I disagree with that philosophy.  Why 'shoot
yourself in the foot' with a compromise antenna unless your physical
conditions dictate that compromise as a necessity (HOA restrictions,
portable operation, etc.)

If you operate with 5 watts and an antenna with 3 dB gain, you will
have the equivalent of a 10 watt signal, and if you can achieve an
antenna with 10 dB gain, you have the equivalent of a 50 watt signal
into a dipole. (yes, I know those are extremes).

Much of the QRP work with compromise antennas is a problem on the
receive side.  If you cannot hear them, you cannot work them.  So why
handicap yourself with inefficient antennas.  Check QRPARCI - you will
find no credits or deductions in their contests for antenna
inefficiency.  Use the best antenna that you have for the task.

QRP operation will increase your operating skills - listen, listen and
listen, figure out the other stations habits, operate split if
necessary, and call when you think your signal will be heard.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/5/2014 6:52 PM, Stephen Roberts wrote:

You're right of course. It takes some time to get comfortable with
QRP and its limitations, and you're right, that it can be a source of
frustration for many new hams.  Your are also absolutely right that
when you ad a crappy antenna to the mix, it can be very frustrating
indeed. But that's the fun of learning and discovering all that is
ham radio.

I started with an OHR 100a 40m rig and a homebrew magloop antenna set
up on a tripod in my kitchen. I was happy as a clam and simply didn't
know what I was missing and found plenty of QSO's to keep me occupied
while I figured out what it was all about. I had other ham friends
telling me that I was setting myself up for disappointment if I
didn't get at least a 100W radio, but I stuck it out and never felt
that I was missing much. I still feel that way, and I'm still having
fun.


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Re: [Elecraft] first contact QRP...

2014-02-06 Thread Roy Koeppe

About,

... It is /hard/ to work DX with 5 watts and a low dipole (or worse, a
Buddipole or similar antenna). This can be very frustrating to new hams
who have yet to develop the operating skills that make this possible 
...etc.



And don't buy your child a cheap microscope; it could forever discourage a 
budding interest in science viewing a blurry image.


Roy  K6XK





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Re: [Elecraft] first contact QRP...

2014-02-06 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH

Or a cheap guitar.

Right Wayne?

Charlie k3ICH


- Original Message - 
From: Roy Koeppe k...@ncn.net

To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] first contact QRP...





And don't buy your child a cheap microscope; it could forever discourage a 
budding interest in science viewing a blurry image.


Roy  K6XK





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Re: [Elecraft] first contact QRP...

2014-02-06 Thread Ariel Jacala
Having a good receiver with a good antenna is key,  a good antenna will go 
places but you have to hear them first.  This is where Elecraft gear shines - 
even a K2.

Ariel NY4G

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH pin...@erols.com wrote:

 Or a cheap guitar.
 
 Right Wayne?
 
 Charlie k3ICH
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Roy Koeppe k...@ncn.net
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 9:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] first contact QRP...
 
 
 
 
 And don't buy your child a cheap microscope; it could forever discourage a 
 budding interest in science viewing a blurry image.
 
 Roy  K6XK
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and the LDG AT 600 Pro II

2014-02-06 Thread bill conkling
Not avail for K3.

...bill nr4c

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Robert Biamonte steamer...@mac.com wrote:

Of course I just thought of the phraseology, I am looking for a control cable 
like the ones made for Yaseu and Kenwood. This cable would reduce the K3 power 
to Tune level and return the power to normal when the Tune button is released 
on the K3. Operating like the built in antenna tuner on the K3.


73
Rob
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Re: [Elecraft] Crystal Filter Offset in 4.81, What does it mean?

2014-02-06 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A

Lyle,

What are you saying here?
The DSP filtering as a second IF would do (and I quote you) a /terrible/ 
job. :-)


73,
Arie PA3A


Lyle Johnson schreef op 5-2-2014 16:35:
snip
The center of the passband to the nominal pitch value only occurs at 
higher pitches and/or narrower passbands.


Think about the case where you have 1.5 kHz width selected and a pitch 
of 500 Hz.  You defintely do NOT want the center of the filter and the 
pitch to be equal,or you'd have /_terrible _/opposite sideband 
suppression.




snip

73,

Lyle KK7P


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Re: [Elecraft] Crystal Filter Offset in 4.81, What does it mean?

2014-02-06 Thread Ralf Wilhelm
In my MarkV Field, I can switch the (2.4k?) SSB filter into the path while 
receiving in CW mode (500 Hz pitch) and don't see the other sideband at all 
due to the DSP which adds the sideband suppression almost for free (I can turn 
the DSP off and then I hear the other sideband). The same should apply to the 
K3, shouldn't it?!?

Greetings

Ralf, DL6OAP

Am 06.02.2014 um 16:14 schrieb Arie Kleingeld PA3A p...@xs4all.nl:

 Lyle,
 
 What are you saying here?
 The DSP filtering as a second IF would do (and I quote you) a /terrible/ job. 
 :-)
 
 73,
 Arie PA3A
 
 
 Lyle Johnson schreef op 5-2-2014 16:35:
 snip
 The center of the passband to the nominal pitch value only occurs at 
 higher pitches and/or narrower passbands.
 
 Think about the case where you have 1.5 kHz width selected and a pitch of 
 500 Hz.  You defintely do NOT want the center of the filter and the pitch to 
 be equal,or you'd have /_terrible _/opposite sideband suppression.
 
 
 snip
 73,
 
 Lyle KK7P
 
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Re: [Elecraft] # 5607 first contact QRP!

2014-02-06 Thread Doug Turnbull
Dave,
Verticals with proper radial systems work just fine.   People even do
amazing things with trap verticals and no more that a ground-rod but this is
torture.   Get that dipole up at least a half wavelength and it will sing.
If you can put up a beam no one should take this as a negative.I do
respect those working with dipoles in their attics - they are a hardy lot.

 Your QRP total is impressive.I think you a patient man and good
operator.

  73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Barr
Sent: 06 February 2014 13:44
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] # 5607 first contact QRP!

QRP works!  Bottom line is that if you want a lot of DX contacts, you 
need at least a dipole.  With a K2 built in '99, a dipole and a 
tribander (bad qrp word) K2YG has worked 261 countries at 5 watts on 
rtty and 108 with 1 watt.  Many of these are on 40, 17 and 12 meters 
with only the dipole, such as VQ9 on 40 with 5w and VU on 12 with one 
watt.  CW is even easier, but SSB is tougher.  So, throw up a wire with 
open feed if possible, even indoors (with coax feed) if you can attach 
it to the house ridge pole, and avoid verticals and small antennas.   
Then, add patience and persistence.

73, Dave, K2YG


On 2/6/2014 12:02 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
 --

 Message: 25
 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 18:11:58 -0800
 From: EricJeric_c...@hotmail.com
 To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] # 5607 first contact QRP!
 Message-ID:blu0-smtp1005d64f825fa84983c84188e...@phx.gbl
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 And that's an important point, Don. A poor antenna hooked to a 5 watt
 rig is no different than a poor antenna hooked to a 100 watt rig...in
 receive. Power sometimes gives you an advantage on transmit under
 marginal conditions, but it does nothing on receive as you mention. Then
 you run into the classic can't work 'em if you can't hear them barrier
 no matter how much power you run.

 I have three boatanchors (2NT, DX40 and Ranger) and they run around
 50-65 watts INPUT. That's what 90% of hams ran in the 50s and 60s and
 that's only an S unit or so better than my K1 or K2/10.

 Anyway, I said what I wanted to say which is most of the argument
 applies to any power level, not just QRP. Part 97 says run no more power
 than necessary. QRP meets that criteria for the majority of operating.

 Eric
 KE6US

 On 2/5/2014 4:23 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Yes, there are many QRPer's who also frown on beams and other
 efficient antennas, but I disagree with that philosophy.  Why 'shoot
 yourself in the foot' with a compromise antenna unless your physical
 conditions dictate that compromise as a necessity (HOA restrictions,
 portable operation, etc.)
 
 If you operate with 5 watts and an antenna with 3 dB gain, you will
 have the equivalent of a 10 watt signal, and if you can achieve an
 antenna with 10 dB gain, you have the equivalent of a 50 watt signal
 into a dipole. (yes, I know those are extremes).
 
 Much of the QRP work with compromise antennas is a problem on the
 receive side.  If you cannot hear them, you cannot work them.  So why
 handicap yourself with inefficient antennas.  Check QRPARCI - you will
 find no credits or deductions in their contests for antenna
 inefficiency.  Use the best antenna that you have for the task.
 
 QRP operation will increase your operating skills - listen, listen and
 listen, figure out the other stations habits, operate split if
 necessary, and call when you think your signal will be heard.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 2/5/2014 6:52 PM, Stephen Roberts wrote:
 You're right of course. It takes some time to get comfortable with
 QRP and its limitations, and you're right, that it can be a source of
 frustration for many new hams.  Your are also absolutely right that
 when you ad a crappy antenna to the mix, it can be very frustrating
 indeed. But that's the fun of learning and discovering all that is
 ham radio.
 
 I started with an OHR 100a 40m rig and a homebrew magloop antenna set
 up on a tripod in my kitchen. I was happy as a clam and simply didn't
 know what I was missing and found plenty of QSO's to keep me occupied
 while I figured out what it was all about. I had other ham friends
 telling me that I was setting myself up for disappointment if I
 didn't get at least a 100W radio, but I stuck it out and never felt
 that I was missing much. I still feel that way, and I'm still having
 fun.

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[Elecraft] KAT500 FW01.54 beta Configuration VSWR Thresholds

2014-02-06 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A

KAT500 FW 01.54 beta
KAT500 Utility 1.13.5.12 for Win.

As far as I know I could set the VSWR thresholds for Autotune and Bypass.
These show up empty when I connect the KAT500 Utily to the KAT500 and 
tried to change the settings.


73
Arie PA3A
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Re: [Elecraft] Crystal Filter Offset in 4.81, What does it mean?

2014-02-06 Thread Don Wilhelm

Arnie,

Think about it this way -- take a filter width of 1500 Hz and a sidetone 
pitch of 600 Hz.
If you center the passband at 600 Hz, the upper passband limit will be 
at 1350 Hz, but the lower edge will be 150 Hz into the opposite sideband 
(single signal reception goes bye-bye).


The proper position if the passband is to place the lower edge at about 
100 Hz, and the upper edge will extend to 1600 Hz.


That is true for any passband that is greater than 2 times the passband 
width.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/6/2014 10:14 AM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:

Lyle,

What are you saying here?
The DSP filtering as a second IF would do (and I quote you) a 
/terrible/ job. :-)


73,
Arie PA3A


Lyle Johnson schreef op 5-2-2014 16:35:
snip
The center of the passband to the nominal pitch value only occurs 
at higher pitches and/or narrower passbands.


Think about the case where you have 1.5 kHz width selected and a 
pitch of 500 Hz.  You defintely do NOT want the center of the filter 
and the pitch to be equal,or you'd have /_terrible _/opposite 
sideband suppression.




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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 FW01.54 beta Configuration VSWR Thresholds

2014-02-06 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The Edit box is blank when any band differs from another.  If you select
each band individually, you should see their individual values, and some
should be different from one another.

If you want to set all bands to the same value, type that value into the
empty box and click apply.  If you want to set one band different from the
rest, choose that band and the value you want for that band.

I'll work on the help text a bit to make this clear.

73 de Dick, K6KR




-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 8:37 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 FW01.54 beta Configuration VSWR Thresholds

KAT500 FW 01.54 beta
KAT500 Utility 1.13.5.12 for Win.

As far as I know I could set the VSWR thresholds for Autotune and Bypass.
These show up empty when I connect the KAT500 Utily to the KAT500 and tried
to change the settings.

73
Arie PA3A
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Re: [Elecraft] Fraud

2014-02-06 Thread Walter Underwood
Start here: http://about.mail.aol.com/security/suspicious-email.html

wunder
K6WRU

On Feb 6, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Bill Ross k6...@verizon.net wrote:

 Just to follow-up on my post of last night, I tried to notify AOL of the 
 fraudulent use of my name and call on their email list, by sending a email to 
 “fraud@aol’'.com” but it bounced. I had looked on the AOL website but 
 couldn’t find an address to write to for such matters, so I would appreciate 
 it if anyone on the list knows how to contact AOL without having an account 
 there. 
 
 Tnx  73
 
 Bill, k6mgo
 
 Message: 26
 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 18:13:31 -0800
 From: Bill Ross k6...@verizon.net
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Fraud
 Message-ID: 0CB07BA4C7B249F7820081CBD65D11A2@rossHP
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 Just a heads up to all on the list, someone is posing as me, William H. Ross 
 at k6mg...@aol.com and listing a K3/P3 station with all equipment for $2950. 
 I don?t have a P3, but do have a K3 which is not for sale now, around 
 Christmas time, I did post an ad on QRZ listing my K3 for sale, and per QRZ?s 
 requirements, sent a picture of the K3 with a QSL card in the picture to 
 authenticate it which this person copied and posted on QTH with the phony ad. 
 I have received emails and phone calls from several hams wanting to inquire 
 if the ad was on the up and up, which of course, it wasn?t. 
 So if anyone see?s this ad or hears about anyone wanting to buy this 
 equipment, please warn them that the ad is a fraud.
 
 Tnx and 73
 
 Bill, k6mgo
 
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[Elecraft] Fraud

2014-02-06 Thread Bill Ross
Just to follow-up on my post of last night, I tried to notify AOL of the 
fraudulent use of my name and call on their email list, by sending a email to 
“fraud@aol’'.com” but it bounced. I had looked on the AOL website but couldn’t 
find an address to write to for such matters, so I would appreciate it if 
anyone on the list knows how to contact AOL without having an account there. 

Tnx  73

Bill, k6mgo

Message: 26
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 18:13:31 -0800
From: Bill Ross k6...@verizon.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Fraud
Message-ID: 0CB07BA4C7B249F7820081CBD65D11A2@rossHP
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Just a heads up to all on the list, someone is posing as me, William H. Ross at 
k6mg...@aol.com and listing a K3/P3 station with all equipment for $2950. 
I don?t have a P3, but do have a K3 which is not for sale now, around Christmas 
time, I did post an ad on QRZ listing my K3 for sale, and per QRZ?s 
requirements, sent a picture of the K3 with a QSL card in the picture to 
authenticate it which this person copied and posted on QTH with the phony ad. I 
have received emails and phone calls from several hams wanting to inquire if 
the ad was on the up and up, which of course, it wasn?t. 
So if anyone see?s this ad or hears about anyone wanting to buy this equipment, 
please warn them that the ad is a fraud.

Tnx and 73

Bill, k6mgo

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Re: [Elecraft] Crystal Filter Offset in 4.81, What does it mean?

2014-02-06 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A

Don,

I understand this.

Let me explain my thoughts.
Let's suppose we have the different IF's. One analog, the 8Mhz stuff, 
and then a DSP IF which is fed by the second 15kHz IF.


I am not a DSP expert. But I would expect that the DSP filter would 
filter out whatever bandwidth I would want it to, just like it were 
analog and better. I expect this function of any IF filter, digital and 
analog.
What we are tallking about is that the opposite sideband can pass 
through the analog part of the K3 (because of the wide roofing filter) 
and yes it does if the skirt of the filter allows it. If this is not 
solved in the DSP, the /function/ of the DSP is not more than the old 
type audio DSP filter we had in the old days (apart from partly being 
inside the AGC-loop)


As Ralph DL5OAP already stated: Even the old FT1000MP with DSP 
demodulation killed the opposite sideband. I had an MP for a long time 
(before I got the K3) and I can confirm this. I had it switched on all 
the time.


As you said Don, the K3 really needs the analog roofing filter to be in 
place to reach its best performance. Good thing that I have them for the 
bandwidths I use. And overall it works pretty well. There are still some 
things to improve though.


73
Arie
(not Arnie  :-))


Don Wilhelm schreef op 6-2-2014 17:21:

Arnie,

Think about it this way -- take a filter width of 1500 Hz and a 
sidetone pitch of 600 Hz.
If you center the passband at 600 Hz, the upper passband limit will be 
at 1350 Hz, but the lower edge will be 150 Hz into the opposite 
sideband (single signal reception goes bye-bye).


The proper position if the passband is to place the lower edge at 
about 100 Hz, and the upper edge will extend to 1600 Hz.


That is true for any passband that is greater than 2 times the 
passband width.


73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] Crystal Filter Offset in 4.81, What does it mean?

2014-02-06 Thread Don Wilhelm

Sorry,  Change the last passband width to sidetone pitch
My thoughts an fingers got mixed up, and I am old enough to claim a 
senior moment:-)


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/6/2014 11:21 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Arnie,

Think about it this way -- take a filter width of 1500 Hz and a 
sidetone pitch of 600 Hz.
If you center the passband at 600 Hz, the upper passband limit will be 
at 1350 Hz, but the lower edge will be 150 Hz into the opposite 
sideband (single signal reception goes bye-bye).


The proper position if the passband is to place the lower edge at 
about 100 Hz, and the upper edge will extend to 1600 Hz.


That is true for any passband that is greater than 2 times the 
passband width.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/6/2014 10:14 AM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:

Lyle,

What are you saying here?
The DSP filtering as a second IF would do (and I quote you) a 
/terrible/ job. :-)


73,
Arie PA3A


Lyle Johnson schreef op 5-2-2014 16:35:
snip
The center of the passband to the nominal pitch value only occurs 
at higher pitches and/or narrower passbands.


Think about the case where you have 1.5 kHz width selected and a 
pitch of 500 Hz.  You defintely do NOT want the center of the filter 
and the pitch to be equal,or you'd have /_terrible _/opposite 
sideband suppression.




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 118, Issue 9

2014-02-06 Thread Dauer, Edward
One of the neat aspects of the hobby we share is the space it affords everyone 
to do whatever it is that interests them.  QRP is no exception.  For me, 
chasing DX with a KX3 running 5 watts into a stealth antenna concealed at a 
temporary work site means I have to pay more attention to operating skill than 
I ever had to with my 500 watts and antenna farm back home; I need to learn 
more about the efficiency of feed lines than I had to before, to transfer as 
much as possible of the 5 watts coming from the rig into the antenna; and more 
about antenna theory than I have known in order to explore how to do with 
maximum efficiency that which (according to the property owners) I am not 
supposed to be doing at all.  Back home these were all, rightly or wrongly, 
unnecessary luxuries.  Using the KX3 in my temporary QTH they are engaging 
challenges.  One thing I know for sure - the KX3 removes receiver performance 
from the equation.  It is simply as good as the best I've come across in 5
 6 years of hamming.

Ted, KN1CBR



Message: 9
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 08:44:06 -0500
From: Dave Barr record...@verizon.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] # 5607 first contact QRP!
Message-ID: 52f391a6.2090...@verizon.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

QRP works!  Bottom line is that if you want a lot of DX contacts, you need at 
least a dipole.  With a K2 built in '99, a dipole and a tribander (bad qrp 
word) K2YG has worked 261 countries at 5 watts on rtty and 108 with 1 watt.  
Many of these are on 40, 17 and 12 meters with only the dipole, such as VQ9 on 
40 with 5w and VU on 12 with one watt.  CW is even easier, but SSB is tougher.  
So, throw up a wire with open feed if possible, even indoors (with coax feed) 
if you can attach 
it to the house ridge pole, and avoid verticals and small antennas.   
Then, add patience and persistence.

73, Dave, K2YG


On 2/6/2014 12:02 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
 --

 Message: 25
 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 18:11:58 -0800
 From: EricJeric_c...@hotmail.com
 To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] # 5607 first contact QRP!
 Message-ID:blu0-smtp1005d64f825fa84983c84188e...@phx.gbl
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 And that's an important point, Don. A poor antenna hooked to a 5 watt 
 rig is no different than a poor antenna hooked to a 100 watt rig...in 
 receive. Power sometimes gives you an advantage on transmit under 
 marginal conditions, but it does nothing on receive as you mention. 
 Then you run into the classic can't work 'em if you can't hear them 
 barrier no matter how much power you run.

 I have three boatanchors (2NT, DX40 and Ranger) and they run around
 50-65 watts INPUT. That's what 90% of hams ran in the 50s and 60s and 
 that's only an S unit or so better than my K1 or K2/10.

 Anyway, I said what I wanted to say which is most of the argument 
 applies to any power level, not just QRP. Part 97 says run no more 
 power than necessary. QRP meets that criteria for the majority of operating.

 Eric
 KE6US

 On 2/5/2014 4:23 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Yes, there are many QRPer's who also frown on beams and other 
 efficient antennas, but I disagree with that philosophy.  Why 'shoot 
 yourself in the foot' with a compromise antenna unless your physical 
 conditions dictate that compromise as a necessity (HOA restrictions, 
 portable operation, etc.)
 
 If you operate with 5 watts and an antenna with 3 dB gain, you will 
 have the equivalent of a 10 watt signal, and if you can achieve an 
 antenna with 10 dB gain, you have the equivalent of a 50 watt signal 
 into a dipole. (yes, I know those are extremes).
 
 Much of the QRP work with compromise antennas is a problem on the 
 receive side.  If you cannot hear them, you cannot work them.  So 
 why handicap yourself with inefficient antennas.  Check QRPARCI - 
 you will find no credits or deductions in their contests for antenna 
 inefficiency.  Use the best antenna that you have for the task.
 
 QRP operation will increase your operating skills - listen, listen 
 and listen, figure out the other stations habits, operate split if 
 necessary, and call when you think your signal will be heard.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 2/5/2014 6:52 PM, Stephen Roberts wrote:
 You're right of course. It takes some time to get comfortable with 
 QRP and its limitations, and you're right, that it can be a source 
 of frustration for many new hams.  Your are also absolutely right 
 that when you ad a crappy antenna to the mix, it can be very 
 frustrating indeed. But that's the fun of learning and discovering 
 all that is ham radio.
 
 I started with an OHR 100a 40m rig and a homebrew magloop antenna 
 set up on a tripod in my kitchen. I was happy as a clam and simply 
 didn't know what I was missing and found plenty of QSO's to keep 
 me occupied while I figured out what it was all about. I had other 
 ham friends 

Re: [Elecraft] Crystal Filter Offset in 4.81, What does it mean?

2014-02-06 Thread Wayne Burdick
Arie Kleingeld PA3A p...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 Lyle,
 
 What are you saying here?

Arie,

The K3 has excellent opposite sideband suppression (the combined suppression of 
the crystal filters in the first I.F., and the DSP in the second I.F.). 

The present change (allowing you to move the crystal filter edge) came about 
because exactly *one* customer in England claimed to be hearing an OSB image at 
extremely low pitch in CW mode in the presence of monster signals. This was 
the first such comment I had heard about the K3, which isn't bad considering 
we've shipped some 8000 of them.

We added the new menu entry to satisfy this demanding customer because, as I 
told him a the time, I didn't want anyone to ever hear an OSB image, no matter 
how small, on the K3. He's using the 0.3-kHz setting, though I couldn't tell 
any difference between 0.2 (the default) and 0.3.

At one point in the K3's history, 0.1 was the setting used. Even then there 
were no complaints about OSB images, so if you want lower pitch, go for it.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] Crystal Filter Offset in 4.81, What does it mean?

2014-02-06 Thread Don Wilhelm

Arie,

Sorry about the added n.

Yes, the DSP algorithms will not allow the passband to extend into the 
opposite sideband.
What I was responding to was the initial statement about centering the 
passband (on the CW sidetone pitch), and I was pointing out the fallacy 
of that when the filter is wide.


The analog filters at the 8 MHz have only the task of keeping strong 
nearby signals out of the ADC and not overloading it - they also reduce 
the exposure of 'pumping' for the hardware AGC by those strong signals 
near in frequency (such as may be encountered in a DX pileup or contest 
conditions).
The DSP does the final filtering, and the DSP filters do not actually 
need the roofing filters at all other than for the reasons stated above.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/6/2014 12:17 PM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:

Don,

I understand this.

Let me explain my thoughts.
Let's suppose we have the different IF's. One analog, the 8Mhz stuff, 
and then a DSP IF which is fed by the second 15kHz IF.


I am not a DSP expert. But I would expect that the DSP filter would 
filter out whatever bandwidth I would want it to, just like it were 
analog and better. I expect this function of any IF filter, digital 
and analog.
What we are tallking about is that the opposite sideband can pass 
through the analog part of the K3 (because of the wide roofing filter) 
and yes it does if the skirt of the filter allows it. If this is not 
solved in the DSP, the /function/ of the DSP is not more than the old 
type audio DSP filter we had in the old days (apart from partly being 
inside the AGC-loop)


As Ralph DL5OAP already stated: Even the old FT1000MP with DSP 
demodulation killed the opposite sideband. I had an MP for a long time 
(before I got the K3) and I can confirm this. I had it switched on all 
the time.


As you said Don, the K3 really needs the analog roofing filter to be 
in place to reach its best performance. Good thing that I have them 
for the bandwidths I use. And overall it works pretty well. There are 
still some things to improve though.


73
Arie
(not Arnie  :-))


Don Wilhelm schreef op 6-2-2014 17:21:

Arnie,

Think about it this way -- take a filter width of 1500 Hz and a 
sidetone pitch of 600 Hz.
If you center the passband at 600 Hz, the upper passband limit will 
be at 1350 Hz, but the lower edge will be 150 Hz into the opposite 
sideband (single signal reception goes bye-bye).


The proper position if the passband is to place the lower edge at 
about 100 Hz, and the upper edge will extend to 1600 Hz.




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Re: [Elecraft] [KX2]

2014-02-06 Thread Wayne Burdick
Glen,

The KX3 is only a little bigger than the KX1, so I'll stick with my 
recommendation of the KX3 as the SSB SOTA rig of choice :)

KX1:  About 1.5 × 6 x 3 inches

KX3:  About 1.7 x 7.5 x 3.5 inches

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Glen Torr glen.t...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Wayne and all,
 
 Thanks for the explanation which makes a lot of sense.
 
 I wonder if the KX2 could be a CW no solder SOTA rig in a KX1 form factor. 
 
 Here in VK SSB is much more popular than CW for SOTA and this is a subject of 
 discussion on the VK SOTA group.
 
 I am determined to do CW and would love an Elecraft SOTA rig.
 
 That said thanks a bunch for the KX3, I can scarcely believe the technology 
 in this amazing radio.
 
 Thanks for the pleasure you have given me.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Glen VK1FB
 
 

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[Elecraft] Vedr: [KX2]

2014-02-06 Thread Martin Storli - LA8OKA
I disagree, the KX3 is not the answer, first of all, you can't build it your 
self, I would go for a KX1 with SSB (a KX2) with 5 watt and a tuner even if the 
performance where slightly less and it didn't have all the features of the KX3.
If the performance is important, yes, og for the KX3, but if you want that good 
old I built this rig feeling and SSB is required, a KX2 would be great!!

Martin Storli 
LA8OKA
Oslo, Norway 
 
ARCTICPEAK's Radio pages! 
http://www.arcticpeak.com/radio.htm
 


 Fra: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
Til: Glen Torr glen.t...@gmail.com 
Kopi: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sendt: Onsdag, 5. februar 2014 23.52
Emne: Re: [Elecraft] [KX2]
  

Hi Glen,

I don't think we'd design a different portable SSB rig just to make it a 
through-hole-components kit. We'd either have to make it a lot larger than the 
KX3 or greatly reduce the number features and level of performance. We did this 
calculation a few years ago and the KX3 is the right answer :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Feb 5, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Glen Torr glen.t...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Aptos Dudes,
 
 SOTA is exploding in popularity and your product line started with a radio
 named after one the highest.
 
 How about a KX2, through hole, 7 to 24 MHz CW / SSB 20 W. SOTA radio?
 
 I love my KX3 on summits.
 
 Good Wishes,
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Vedr: [KX2]

2014-02-06 Thread Dennis Moore
I happen to know a company that makes such a product, but it has 10w max 
output, not 5w. The company is Elecraft, and the product is the K2/10, 
with tuner and SSB.


73, Dennis NJ6G

On 2/6/2014 1:11 PM, Martin Storli - LA8OKA wrote:

I disagree, the KX3 is not the answer, first of all, you can't build it your 
self, I would go for a KX1 with SSB (a KX2) with 5 watt and a tuner even if the 
performance where slightly less and it didn't have all the features of the KX3.
If the performance is important, yes, og for the KX3, but if you want that good old I built 
this rig feeling and SSB is required, a KX2 would be great!!


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Re: [Elecraft] Vedr: [KX2]

2014-02-06 Thread Jack Chomley
I agree with Martin, the SSB module added to the existing KX1. The KX1 being a 
builders kit radio now, the space inside may be at a premium, so the SSB module 
could be a pre made one as surface mount components, so it could fit inside, 
without making a new case etc?
Is this feasible?

73,

Jack VK4JRC

Club.www.cqara.org.au
Member WIA SARL ARRL 
GQRP   #14392
QRPARCI #15068
VKQRP.#833

 On 7 Feb 2014, at 7:11 am, Martin Storli - LA8OKA arcticp...@yahoo.no wrote:
 
 I disagree, the KX3 is not the answer, first of all, you can't build it your 
 self, I would go for a KX1 with SSB (a KX2) with 5 watt and a tuner even if 
 the performance where slightly less and it didn't have all the features of 
 the KX3.
 If the performance is important, yes, og for the KX3, but if you want that 
 good old I built this rig feeling and SSB is required, a KX2 would be 
 great!!
 
 Martin Storli 
 LA8OKA
 Oslo, Norway 
  
 ARCTICPEAK's Radio pages! 
 http://www.arcticpeak.com/radio.htm
 
 
 
 Fra: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
 Til: Glen Torr glen.t...@gmail.com 
 Kopi: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sendt: Onsdag, 5. februar 2014 23.52
 Emne: Re: [Elecraft] [KX2]
 
 
 Hi Glen,
 
 I don't think we'd design a different portable SSB rig just to make it a 
 through-hole-components kit. We'd either have to make it a lot larger than 
 the KX3 or greatly reduce the number features and level of performance. We 
 did this calculation a few years ago and the KX3 is the right answer :)
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 On Feb 5, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Glen Torr glen.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Aptos Dudes,
 
 SOTA is exploding in popularity and your product line started with a radio
 named after one the highest.
 
 How about a KX2, through hole, 7 to 24 MHz CW / SSB 20 W. SOTA radio?
 
 I love my KX3 on summits.
 
 Good Wishes,
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Vedr: [KX2]

2014-02-06 Thread Ray Sills
Well, as much as some would like Elecraft to make a KX2 it looks  
like it's not going to happen.  Wayne has said as much.


Even if as many as 100 people wanted such a rig, it's likely that it  
would not be fiscally feasible for Elecraft to market one.


But, if some adventurous person wanted design one, and put it on the  
market. certainly some people would be interested.

Who's going to put up the capital for such a venture?

73 de Ray
K2ULR


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Re: [Elecraft] Vedr: [KX2]

2014-02-06 Thread Jack Chomley
Ray,

The most feasible way would be a retrofit surface mount prebuilt SSB module and 
its interface requirements for the existing KX1.
People still build the radio but simply add the SSB module IF they want it.
Like everything..publicise an expression of interest request, see what 
happens.
No, Elecraft don't have to make it but, it would be nice if they did :-)
Look at the HCT, started as a project and evolved into a product, specifically
for one radio model, the KX3.
I wonder how many KX1s have been sold, to date?

73,

Jack VK4JRC

Club.www.cqara.org.au
Member WIA SARL ARRL 
GQRP   #14392
QRPARCI #15068
VKQRP.#833

 On 7 Feb 2014, at 7:28 am, Ray Sills raysil...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 Well, as much as some would like Elecraft to make a KX2 it looks like 
 it's not going to happen.  Wayne has said as much.
 
 Even if as many as 100 people wanted such a rig, it's likely that it would 
 not be fiscally feasible for Elecraft to market one.
 
 But, if some adventurous person wanted design one, and put it on the 
 market. certainly some people would be interested.
 Who's going to put up the capital for such a venture?
 
 73 de Ray
 K2ULR
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Vedr: [KX2]

2014-02-06 Thread EricJ

Find out:

https://www.kickstarter.com/

Eric
KE6US

On 2/6/2014 1:28 PM, Ray Sills wrote:
But, if some adventurous person wanted design one, and put it on the 
market. certainly some people would be interested.

*Who's going to put up the capital for such a venture? *

73 de Ray
K2ULR


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Re: [Elecraft] Fraud

2014-02-06 Thread Joe Lynch
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73 de Joe, N6CL
 


 From: Bill Ross k6...@verizon.net
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 12:03 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Fraud
  

Just to follow-up on my post of last night, I tried to notify AOL of the 
fraudulent use of my name and call on their email list, by sending a email to 
“fraud@aol’'.com” but it bounced. I had looked on the AOL website but couldn’t 
find an address to write to for such matters, so I would appreciate it if 
anyone on the list knows how to contact AOL without having an account there. 

Tnx  73

Bill, k6mgo

Message: 26
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 18:13:31 -0800
From: Bill Ross k6...@verizon.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Fraud
Message-ID: 0CB07BA4C7B249F7820081CBD65D11A2@rossHP
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Just a heads up to all on the list, someone is posing as me, William H. Ross at 
k6mg...@aol.com and listing a K3/P3 station with all equipment for $2950. 
I don?t have a P3, but do have a K3 which is not for sale now, around Christmas 
time, I did post an ad on QRZ listing my K3 for sale, and per QRZ?s 
requirements, sent a picture of the K3 with a QSL card in the picture to 
authenticate it which this person copied and posted on QTH with the phony ad. I 
have received emails and phone calls from several hams wanting to inquire if 
the ad was on the up and up, which of course, it wasn?t. 
So if anyone see?s this ad or hears about anyone wanting to buy this equipment, 
please warn them that the ad is a fraud.

Tnx and 73

Bill, k6mgo

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[Elecraft] KXPD3 Gold-plated contacts ?

2014-02-06 Thread Heinz Baertschi

Has anyone tried to galvanically gold-plate the KXPD3 contact screws and
posts?

Heinz HB9BCB




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Re: [Elecraft] Vedr: [KX2]

2014-02-06 Thread Jessie Oberreuter


 Anyone remember this?

http://www.i0cg.com/k1_page.htm

Giuliano made an SSB board for his K1 :).

 The K1 is a great trail friendly radio, and it has a lot more mod 
space than the KX1!



On Fri, 7 Feb 2014, Jack Chomley wrote:


Ray,

The most feasible way would be a retrofit surface mount prebuilt SSB module and 
its interface requirements for the existing KX1.
People still build the radio but simply add the SSB module IF they want it.
Like everything..publicise an expression of interest request, see what 
happens.
No, Elecraft don't have to make it but, it would be nice if they did :-)
Look at the HCT, started as a project and evolved into a product, specifically
for one radio model, the KX3.
I wonder how many KX1s have been sold, to date?

73,

Jack VK4JRC

Club.www.cqara.org.au
Member WIA SARL ARRL
GQRP   #14392
QRPARCI #15068
VKQRP.#833


On 7 Feb 2014, at 7:28 am, Ray Sills raysil...@verizon.net wrote:

Well, as much as some would like Elecraft to make a KX2 it looks like 
it's not going to happen.  Wayne has said as much.

Even if as many as 100 people wanted such a rig, it's likely that it would not 
be fiscally feasible for Elecraft to market one.

But, if some adventurous person wanted design one, and put it on the 
market. certainly some people would be interested.
Who's going to put up the capital for such a venture?

73 de Ray
K2ULR


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Re: [Elecraft] Vedr: [KX2]

2014-02-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
The best suggestion I have seen in this thread is for the K2 with KSB2 
option.  It is an off-the-shelf kit using thru-hole construction.  full 
160 through 10 meter bands is possible with the addition of the K160RX 
and K60XV options.  The K2 is not too large for portable operation, and 
it is a full featured transceiver with dual VFOs, Split capability, and 
with additional options such as the KAT2 and the KBT2, it is quite 
capable of SOTA operation with a variety of antennas, either CW or SSB 
or Data modes.  The K2/10 is quite lightweight if the internal battery 
is not included.


While Giuliano's K1 SSB addition would work, it has limitations - the 
base K1 has limited bands and a limited VFO tuning range. Giuliano's SSB 
addition is not available as a kit - so it is only for those who want to 
lend their skills to homebrew (that is OK for some, but not the majority).
The K1 with the internal tuner and the internal battery pack does not 
leave much internal space for the addition of anything like a SSB addition.


I do not think Elecraft will be forthcoming with another thru-hole kit.

The KX3 is a more capable transceiver than the K2, and is in a smaller 
package -- so the appeal is only for those who want to build it 
yourself, and the K2 is the best answer in today's world unless 
significant compromises are acceptable.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/6/2014 5:11 PM, Jessie Oberreuter wrote:


 Anyone remember this?

http://www.i0cg.com/k1_page.htm

Giuliano made an SSB board for his K1 :).

 The K1 is a great trail friendly radio, and it has a lot more mod 
space than the KX1!





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Re: [Elecraft] Vedr: [KX2]

2014-02-06 Thread Fred Jensen
I use my K2/10 with a LiFePO4 battery for SOTA activations.  It has the 
KAT3 although when I use the Alexloop I bypass the ATU.  It also has the 
SSB module which I've never used, no mic.  Admittedly, I'm somewhat 
orthopedically-challenged so my activations tend to be on the tame side, 
but it is a super radio, and my pack weighs about 25 lbs.  The weight 
isn't a problem for me, but the pack does raise my center-of-mass 
creating balance and stability problems in really challenging terrain. 
Someone younger would have no problem


I can't speak to Giulianos K1 SSB addition, I've only used a K1 one 
time.  I have a KX1 [40/30/20] which I usually take as a back-up.  I 
rarely operate SSB and never when QRP in the field.


I've been curious where Elecraft would go after the K3 and KX3.  The 
KX1, K1, and K2 are essentially mature products [which doesn't mean 
they're obsolete by any means].  The field radio market is getting a bit 
crowded these days.  Some incremental things might be viable for the K3 
[200W internal PA, internal VHF/UHF capability, ???].  I think the 
KPA1500 is off the table?  I really doubt a through-hole KX2 is likely.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org


On 2/6/2014 3:00 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:


The K2 is not too large for portable operation, and
it is a full featured transceiver with dual VFOs, Split capability, and
with additional options such as the KAT2 and the KBT2, it is quite
capable of SOTA operation with a variety of antennas, either CW or SSB
or Data modes.  The K2/10 is quite lightweight if the internal battery
is not included.



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Re: [Elecraft] # 5607 first contact QRP!

2014-02-06 Thread Bill Frantz
I actually came to enjoy non-line-of-sight ham radio through QRP 
operations. I had an Icom 706 MKIIg with dipoles for 40M and 
80M, but made very few QSOs. I then went to the West Valley 
Amateur Radio Association's field day operation on Mora hill, 
which was QRP/battery. I was introduced to digital operation, 
specifically PSK31 and a whole new world opened up to me. I had 
fun actually operating the radio for the first time!


So I went back home, got a SignaLink USB, downloaded cocoaModem 
and started running PSK on the Icom. For the first time I was 
communicating with people who weren't already my friends using 
modes other than repeaters and simplex in the wilderness. And I 
could make QSOs at the lowest power the Icom offered.


I would like to find ways to attract the many hams whose 
operation is limited to line-of-sight to some of the other 
options ham radio offers. I have one idea, but it's for a 
following email.


Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] Fraud

2014-02-06 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

Seriously folks.

I retired last year after 23 years running an ISP.

Among other things, AOL is a free E-Mail provider, not unlike Hotmail, 
Yahoo or GMail.  They can't afford to invest a whole lot of time and 
staff into policing their service, especially where the only punishment 
they have is to take a free E-Mail address away from someone they can't 
possibly track down.


Signing up for a free E-Mail address is 100% anonymous.

They aren't even going to listen to your claim that the E-Mail address 
is your callsign plus a commonly used prosign, nor are they going to 
agree that k6mgo belongs to you in any way at all.


Trying to find someone who will bother to understand  that at any big 
provider is at least as difficult as teaching a pig to sing.


Trying to find someone who cares would be several orders of magnitude 
harder.


They really aren't going to be interested to discover that someone is 
using their service fraudulently -- they already know that.


Welcome to the future of the internet.

On the other side of this, they typical 419 scam has been around since 
the early 1800's, and they're easy to detect -- you just have to read 
carefully and ask yourself is this credible.  They almost never are.


I learned most of how to avoid these scams in Jr. High School -- in 
1969.  Yes, there are a few things you can do to test to see if an 
E-Mail is genuine, but it starts with critical reading and asking 
yourself does this ring true?


Sorry if that offends everyone.

73 -- Lynn

On 2/6/2014 1:58 PM, Joe Lynch wrote:

ab...@aol.com
  
73 de Joe, N6CL
  



  From: Bill Ross k6...@verizon.net
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 12:03 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Fraud
   


Just to follow-up on my post of last night, I tried to notify AOL of the 
fraudulent use of my name and call on their email list, by sending a email to 
“fraud@aol’'.com” but it bounced. I had looked on the AOL website but couldn’t 
find an address to write to for such matters, so I would appreciate it if 
anyone on the list knows how to contact AOL without having an account there.

Tnx  73

Bill, k6mgo


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[Elecraft] The Technician Ten Radio

2014-02-06 Thread Bill Frantz
My goal with this radio is to offer a radio that will introduce 
new technician operators to non-line-of-sight operation. The 
basic requirements are:


  Covers 28.3 - 28.5 MHz USB.

  Audio quality that will appeal to an FM user.

  Enough power to make QSOs easily.

  Inexpensive enough to buy on impulse.

  Simple to use UI.

Supporting FM repeater use on some of 6M, 2M, and 70cm might 
expand sales in the target market enough to be justified. A 
mobil operations story would make it useful for car-to-car 
operation during low sunspot times. Availability as a no-solder 
kit could cut costs, increase pride of ownership, and aid 
word-of-mouth sales.


Other features like CW operation, split operation, etc. should 
only be included if they significantly expand the market and can 
be introduced without undue UI complications.


Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD3 Gold-plated contacts ?

2014-02-06 Thread Mark Petiford
RE:  Has anyone tried to galvanically gold-plate the KXPD3 contact screws and
posts?

Heinz,

In an attempt to solve the missing dit problem?

Mark
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Re: [Elecraft] The Technician Ten Radio

2014-02-06 Thread Merv Schweigert
Its what they sell and call a CB radio.Buy one for a couple bucks,  
a few

modifications and bingo your set.   Quits working toss it in the trash.
And if you dont do mods you dont even need a license..

Merv K9FD/KH6

My goal with this radio is to offer a radio that will introduce new 
technician operators to non-line-of-sight operation. The basic 
requirements are:


  Covers 28.3 - 28.5 MHz USB.

  Audio quality that will appeal to an FM user.

  Enough power to make QSOs easily.

  Inexpensive enough to buy on impulse.

  Simple to use UI.

Supporting FM repeater use on some of 6M, 2M, and 70cm might expand 
sales in the target market enough to be justified. A mobil operations 
story would make it useful for car-to-car operation during low sunspot 
times. Availability as a no-solder kit could cut costs, increase pride 
of ownership, and aid word-of-mouth sales.


Other features like CW operation, split operation, etc. should only be 
included if they significantly expand the market and can be introduced 
without undue UI complications.


Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] The Technician Ten Radio

2014-02-06 Thread Walter Underwood
That would be the Radio Shack HTX-10. You can get them on eBay for $100.

http://www.rigpix.com/rs-realistic/realistic_htx100.htm

wunder
K6WRU

On Feb 6, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com wrote:

 My goal with this radio is to offer a radio that will introduce new 
 technician operators to non-line-of-sight operation. The basic requirements 
 are:
 
  Covers 28.3 - 28.5 MHz USB.
 
  Audio quality that will appeal to an FM user.
 
  Enough power to make QSOs easily.
 
  Inexpensive enough to buy on impulse.
 
  Simple to use UI.
 
 Supporting FM repeater use on some of 6M, 2M, and 70cm might expand sales in 
 the target market enough to be justified. A mobil operations story would make 
 it useful for car-to-car operation during low sunspot times. Availability as 
 a no-solder kit could cut costs, increase pride of ownership, and aid 
 word-of-mouth sales.
 
 Other features like CW operation, split operation, etc. should only be 
 included if they significantly expand the market and can be introduced 
 without undue UI complications.
 
 Cheers - Bill, AE6JV
 
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[Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

2014-02-06 Thread stan levandowski
FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple of 
days, you might be interested to  learn that he was running a KX3 at 
between 5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level.  His antenna 
was a PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole.  He made 400 contacts 
in two days of operating and he was only on a few hours each day.  In a 
couple of weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the same rig and 
antenna.  



The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching 
network and it only weighs a couple of pounds.  Most hams would probably 
dub the Par Omni Angle a suboptimal or compromise antenna.  



A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, preparation, 
perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to offset the 
handicap of a compromise antenna.



73, Stan WB2LQF







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Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

2014-02-06 Thread David Gilbert


So does having a semi-rare callsign.

Dave   AB7E



On 2/6/2014 6:05 PM, stan levandowski wrote:
FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple 
of days, you might be interested to  learn that he was running a KX3 
at between 5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level.  His 
antenna was a PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole.  He made 
400 contacts in two days of operating and he was only on a few hours 
each day.  In a couple of weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the 
same rig and antenna.



The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching 
network and it only weighs a couple of pounds.  Most hams would 
probably dub the Par Omni Angle a suboptimal or compromise antenna.



A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, 
preparation, perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to 
offset the handicap of a compromise antenna.



73, Stan WB2LQF







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[Elecraft] Fraud

2014-02-06 Thread Bill Ross
This should be the last post on this thread but just wanted to say thanks to 
all who responded to my plea for info on how to reach AOL.

Also would like to explain my reasoning in wanting to reach AOL about this 
matter. 

I am not a lawyer but I was worried that if someone sent money to this phony 
for some equipment and didn’t receive it, they might come after me for some 
reason. People now days are sue happy and will do so at the drop of the hat. 
Just heard on the news this evening that the family of the boy who had sex with 
his teacher and fathered a child just got $50 for it. I can remember when I 
was a teenager and sex was upper most in my mind, and all I can say is it 
wouldn’t have taken $50 for me to have taken advantage of such an 
opportunity. So the fact that I have documented the problem to AOL, and posted 
a note on my QRZ page, and also posted the info her, I think would make a 
strong case that I did all that should be expected of me to disclaim any loss 
that anyone might incur from this fraudulent ad in my name and call. 

So all I am saying is I have bought many rigs and sold many rigs on various 
reflectors and QRZ.com and never had a problem either way, but from now on, I 
for one will be extremely careful before I send money or send a rig to someone 
from such a transaction. Lesson learned.

73, Bill, k6mgo 
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Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

2014-02-06 Thread stan levandowski
When I bought mine a few months ago, it was $99 for the antenna and one 
matchbox; each additional matchbox was $20.    73, Stan WB2LQF



On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 08:40 PM, Jim Lowman wrote:


Does anyone know what this antenna costs?
On the website, it says E-mail for pricing.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 2/6/2014 5:05 PM, stan levandowski wrote:
FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple 
of days, you might be interested to  learn that he was running a KX3 
at between 5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level.  His 
antenna was a PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole.  He made 
400 contacts in two days of operating and he was only on a few hours 
each day.  In a couple of weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the 
same rig and antenna.



The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a 
matching network and it only weighs a couple of pounds.  Most hams 
would probably dub the Par Omni Angle a suboptimal or compromise 
antenna.



A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, 
preparation, perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to 
offset the handicap of a compromise antenna.



73, Stan WB2LQF







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Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

2014-02-06 Thread KD8RQE
That would be Ulrich, N2DE, KX3, Begali Adventure,  his baby, the  Begali 
CW Machine.  A combo very hard to beat.
 
73 Mike KD8RQE
 
 
In a message dated 2/6/2014 8:05:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
sjl...@optonline.net writes:

FYI - if  any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple of 
days, you  might be interested to  learn that he was running a KX3 at 
between 5  and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level.  His antenna 
was a  PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole.  He made 400 contacts 
in  two days of operating and he was only on a few hours each day.  In a  
couple of weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the same rig and  
antenna.  


The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum  rectangle with a matching 
network and it only weighs a couple of pounds.  Most hams would probably 
dub the Par Omni Angle a suboptimal or  compromise antenna.  


A well versed operator, knowledge of  propagation, patience, preparation, 
perseverance and top shelf equipment  goes a long way to offset the 
handicap of a compromise  antenna.


73, Stan  WB2LQF







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Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

2014-02-06 Thread Jack Chomley

I would not say the Omniangle is a compromise antenna if it works :-) The 
operator had nothing else to compare it with and was able to make many contacts 
with it!
We would all like a big Yagi I guess, but they weigh more than a few pounds.
The thrill really, is doing more..with less!
Incidentally, I am about to find out just how good an Omniangle on 20 metres 
is, Dale shipped mine out, earlier this week.


73,

Jack VK4JRC

Club.www.cqara.org.au
Member WIA SARL ARRL 
GQRP   #14392
QRPARCI #15068
VKQRP.#833

 On 7 Feb 2014, at 11:05 am, stan levandowski sjl...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple of days, 
 you might be interested to  learn that he was running a KX3 at between 5 and 
 10 watts depending upon his DC input level.  His antenna was a PAR Omni Angle 
 on a 22 foot fiberglass pole.  He made 400 contacts in two days of operating 
 and he was only on a few hours each day.  In a couple of weeks he'll be 
 operating as 7P8US with the same rig and antenna.  
 
 
 The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching 
 network and it only weighs a couple of pounds.  Most hams would probably dub 
 the Par Omni Angle a suboptimal or compromise antenna.  
 
 
 A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, preparation, 
 perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to offset the handicap 
 of a compromise antenna.
 
 
 73, Stan WB2LQF
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Fraud

2014-02-06 Thread Jim Lowman
Trying to reach anyone at Yahoo has turned out to be an exercise in 
futility.


A good friend owns a nice gift shop nearby.  Her old computer died, and 
I've been helping her get a new one.  It arrived yesterday.


Apparently, her Yahoo e-mail account has been compromised - as have 
several others, no doubt.
I couldn't even find a support phone number for Yahoo anywhere on their 
website.  I had to Google for it.
Then, she kept getting the usual, Due to heavy calling... and being 
disconnected.


In the meantime, communications from vendors and curious prospective 
buyers are piling up in her inbox that she can't access.
Hopefully, they will call her business number when their e-mails are 
going unanswered.


The usual, easy way to reset a password doesn't work, because the 
compromise apparently points to some cell phone number that isn't hers.

And, she hadn't set up an alternate e-mail address or a security question.

I explained that it's not the best idea to have an e-mail account for 
her business with one of these free e-mail providers.

But she's operating on a shoestring, thanks to the state of the economy.

The scary part is that Yahoo is actually the ISP behind my SBCGlobal.net 
address.  However, ATT might have better luck with Yahoo if I had a 
problem.


73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 2/6/2014 4:05 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

Seriously folks.

I retired last year after 23 years running an ISP.

Among other things, AOL is a free E-Mail provider, not unlike Hotmail, 
Yahoo or GMail.  They can't afford to invest a whole lot of time and 
staff into policing their service, especially where the only 
punishment they have is to take a free E-Mail address away from 
someone they can't possibly track down.


Trying to find someone who will bother to understand  that at any big 
provider is at least as difficult as teaching a pig to sing.


Trying to find someone who cares would be several orders of magnitude 
harder.


73 -- Lynn



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Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

2014-02-06 Thread Jim Lowman

Does anyone know what this antenna costs?
On the website, it says E-mail for pricing.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 2/6/2014 5:05 PM, stan levandowski wrote:
FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple 
of days, you might be interested to  learn that he was running a KX3 
at between 5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level.  His 
antenna was a PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole.  He made 
400 contacts in two days of operating and he was only on a few hours 
each day.  In a couple of weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the 
same rig and antenna.



The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching 
network and it only weighs a couple of pounds.  Most hams would 
probably dub the Par Omni Angle a suboptimal or compromise antenna.



A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, 
preparation, perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to 
offset the handicap of a compromise antenna.



73, Stan WB2LQF







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Re: [Elecraft] The Technician Ten Radio

2014-02-06 Thread Merv Schweigert
No Tom,  I do not as that does not interest me in the slightest,  But I 
have

seen over the years numerous articles on using CB radios on 10 meters,
at one time there was a big push and a lot of mods published for them.
I assume a search of the internet may bring up some of that info.
It may have been in the old 73 magazines or even CQ.

I dont mean mods for the free banders either,  these were mods to use the
radios on 10 meters by licensed hams.

On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 14:44:40 -1000
Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com wrote:


Its what they sell and call a CB radio.Buy one for a couple bucks,
a few
modifications and bingo your set.   Quits working toss it in the trash.
And if you dont do mods you dont even need a license..

Merv K9FD/KH6


Do you have any links to what the mods are?

73 Tom  kg7cfc



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Re: [Elecraft] The Technician Ten Radio

2014-02-06 Thread Thomas Taylor
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 14:44:40 -1000
Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com wrote:

 Its what they sell and call a CB radio.Buy one for a couple bucks,  
 a few
 modifications and bingo your set.   Quits working toss it in the trash.
 And if you dont do mods you dont even need a license..
 
 Merv K9FD/KH6
 

Do you have any links to what the mods are?

73 Tom  kg7cfc

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[Elecraft] [KX2] [KX0]

2014-02-06 Thread eric norris
I  agree that a minimalist K2 would work perfectly for the kx2 you are 
describing..  Even though it is a bit bigger than the KX3, there is plenty of 
room inside for a lightweight battery pack if you don't want the weight of the 
lead-acid  Elecraft battery, and of course it has an internal atu available.  

Also, among all the kits I have built over the years, the K2 is hands down the 
most fun, and the most satisfying when you first turn it on.  It took me about 
60 hours to build a fully-loaded K2/10.   It STILL has an excellent receiver.  

I would love to see something in the other direction--say a KX0.  It would be 
as small as a rockmite or smaller, single band or with plug-in modules, an atu, 
and at least 2 watts out.   Optimised to work with a wire thrown into a tree. A 
receiver much better than the rockmite, maybe close to the KX1.  Attachment for 
the KX3 paddles.  CW only, and built-in keyer with at least one memory.  You 
could put in in your shirt pocket and operate.

Maybe that's just me.

73

Eric WD6DBM

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Re: [Elecraft] The Technician Ten Radio

2014-02-06 Thread Bill Frantz

On 2/6/14 at 4:44 PM, k...@flex.com (Merv Schweigert) wrote:


Its what they sell and call a CB radio.Buy one for a couple bucks,  a few
modifications and bingo your set.   Quits working toss it in the trash.
And if you dont do mods you dont even need a license..


The trouble is a CB radio isn't going to introduce law abiding 
hams to long distance communication since that is an illegal use 
of CB. Most of the people I'm trying to attract are emergency 
services people trying to serve their communities. They need 
experience operating under bad conditions, but many of them 
don't know it and won't find out until the bad thing happens*.


Cheers - Bill

* Sgt. Kerry Harris, Los Gatos Police Department

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(408)356-8506  | around us, is there any choice | 16345 
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Re: [Elecraft] The Technician Ten Radio

2014-02-06 Thread Stephen Selberg
Bill,

I like the idea...but... Always the but... :)

I think the best thing to do, is to really encourage technician licensees
to come out to field day and get a feel of the action. I started off as a
tech at age 13 and happily enjoyed my 50 mhz + privileges. That was until
my first field day with West Valley on Loma Prieta at Charlie's property.
The only thing I could talk about after was how I needed to learn CW to get
my General ticket to work HF. Boy that was a long time ago. When did Cw go
away again? I'm so old hihi. But my point is if we encourage the Technician
hams to come out to field day and see how fun HF can be, and then Elmer
them and help them pass their general class test, the world will be open to
them. And then we can strongly urge them to drink the Elecraft kool-aid
(Wayne can I get a referral discount off a KPA500?). I guess what I'm
saying is why have a radio that will keep them where they're at and cap
their knowledge when it would be better to show them and foster their
learning to improve themselves and gain more knowledge of this wonderful
hobby.


73,

Steve KS6PD


On Thursday, February 6, 2014, Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com wrote:

 No Tom,  I do not as that does not interest me in the slightest,  But I
 have
 seen over the years numerous articles on using CB radios on 10 meters,
 at one time there was a big push and a lot of mods published for them.
 I assume a search of the internet may bring up some of that info.
 It may have been in the old 73 magazines or even CQ.

 I dont mean mods for the free banders either,  these were mods to use the
 radios on 10 meters by licensed hams.

 On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 14:44:40 -1000
 Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com wrote:

  Its what they sell and call a CB radio.Buy one for a couple bucks,
 a few
 modifications and bingo your set.   Quits working toss it in the trash.
 And if you dont do mods you dont even need a license..

 Merv K9FD/KH6

  Do you have any links to what the mods are?

 73 Tom  kg7cfc


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Re: [Elecraft] # 5607 first contact QRP!

2014-02-06 Thread Stephen Selberg
Bill,

I had kind of dropped out of radio until someone showed me qrp psk31.
Really regained my interest and brought me back into the hobby...

Since then I picked up a KX3 along with a number of other toys. After
reading some of the other replies on the thread, all I can say is I've
had a blast working qrp with the kx3 on not only CW and digital, but ssb as
well using some real garbage compromise antennas. Most of the fun for me
is to see who I can work qrp with such horrible antennas. Don't get me
wrong, I'd love to have a beam to help me out. But for now I'll enjoy
experimenting with different types of antennas while portable.

Anyways, congrats to the owner of kx3 #5607 and ur first qrp contact.

73,

Steve KS6PD



On Thursday, February 6, 2014, Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com wrote:

 I actually came to enjoy non-line-of-sight ham radio through QRP
 operations. I had an Icom 706 MKIIg with dipoles for 40M and 80M, but made
 very few QSOs. I then went to the West Valley Amateur Radio Association's
 field day operation on Mora hill, which was QRP/battery. I was introduced
 to digital operation, specifically PSK31 and a whole new world opened up to
 me. I had fun actually operating the radio for the first time!

 So I went back home, got a SignaLink USB, downloaded cocoaModem and
 started running PSK on the Icom. For the first time I was communicating
 with people who weren't already my friends using modes other than repeaters
 and simplex in the wilderness. And I could make QSOs at the lowest power
 the Icom offered.

 I would like to find ways to attract the many hams whose operation is
 limited to line-of-sight to some of the other options ham radio offers. I
 have one idea, but it's for a following email.

 Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] # 5607 first contact QRP!

2014-02-06 Thread Jim Lowman

Sounds like a testament to your skill as an operator, Steve.

Anyone with money can have a great antenna farm, but that doesn't make 
him a good operator.


Heck, there's a group out this way in the Phoenix area who routinely 
goes out to a park and tries to load up lawn chairs, umbrellas and the like.

I understand that someone once loaded up a school bus.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 2/6/2014 10:47 PM, Stephen Selberg wrote:

Bill,

I had kind of dropped out of radio until someone showed me qrp psk31.
Really regained my interest and brought me back into the hobby...

Since then I picked up a KX3 along with a number of other toys. After
reading some of the other replies on the thread, all I can say is I've
had a blast working qrp with the kx3 on not only CW and digital, but ssb as
well using some real garbage compromise antennas. Most of the fun for me
is to see who I can work qrp with such horrible antennas. Don't get me
wrong, I'd love to have a beam to help me out. But for now I'll enjoy
experimenting with different types of antennas while portable.

Anyways, congrats to the owner of kx3 #5607 and ur first qrp contact.

73,

Steve KS6PD



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