Re: [Elecraft] Signal analysis with the P3
Interesting, So, given a decent mic insert the overall audio response is very much coloured by the housing of the the insert... Close talking a mic gives a better S/N ratio, less background noise and room colouration, but yields too much bass due to proximity effect? How to overcome too much bass (besides moving further from the mic)? What effect do pop shields and the various muffs have on the sound? . I do understand and practice Tx audio EQ to restrict the Tx BW to 2.8-3kHz and attenuate useless audio below say 200Hz. for maximum communications efficiency. I'm interested in good communications microphones and technique, but not in spending, silly money (hundreds, thousands) when a decent mic insert can be had for pennies, (almost). I'm not interested in ESSB, done well or otherwise. A good clean 3KHz SSB signal stands out and is very noticeable on our bands today. There are some very knowledgeable audio and broadcast people on this list and I'm always keen to listen to their opinions. 73, F5VJC On 29 April 2014 20:53, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: On 4/29/2014 12:32 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: Not sure it is limited to dynamic mics. Proximity effect is not limited to dynamic mics. But it seems to be more common with dynamic mics used for amateur service because the electret has both a higher output level and more low end to start with. I recorded myself using his velocity mic [the large iconic RCA which had a prismatic shape] on an Ampex 350 at varying distances. As I got closer, I became more and more a bass. I took every advantage of proximity effect when I started in radio. I had an overnight air shift - I worked the mic as close as I could and kept my voice level down in order to generate that more pleasing low, soothing tone. When it came time to rip and read the news, I backed off, talked louder and faster - almost sounded like a different person. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to foxfive@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K2] VCO Not Oscillating
Hi Joseph, Just taking a closer look at the voltages you reported on Q16, Q17 Q18: Q17 should be a 2N7000 MOSFET, but the measurements you provided talk about Base, Emitter and Collector (rather than Gate, Source and Drain). Also, the Drain of Q17 has a DC connection to the Source of Q18. You report the Source of Q18 as being 6.64V, but if there is no oscillation then this isn't consistent with the voltages you reported on Q17. Can you maybe check you have used the right transistors, verify the orientation/pin outs, and recheck that the voltages you are reporting against each transistor and each transistor terminal are correct? Somehow something doesn't quite seem to add up with what you reported below :-) Another obvious thing is to verify is the orientation of ICs U3 and U4. 73, Matt VK2RQ On 29 Apr 2014, at 10:22 am, Joseph Baxley via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: Hi, I've been trying for the last four days to figure out what is wrong with my rig. I'm at Phase 2 Test and Alignment and got to testing the frequency of the VCO. It had a reading of 0. Also the voltage on R30 was 7.87V. This is consistent with the VCO not oscillating. The reference oscillator works fine and was within the expected ranges when I looked at it. What I was able to notice was that U4 on the RF board has two pins with voltage values that are out of spec. Pin 1 has 0.9V and pin 13 has 0V. If I read the table they should be 2.1 and 4V respectively. It also seems that the 0V on pin 13 is causing a 0V reading on pin 6 of U6. Otherwise U6 is in spec. I got out my oscilloscope and got a Vrms of 1.13V on U4 pin 1. There wasn't anything on pins 3 or 6 of U3. The voltages for Q17, Q16, and Q18 are as follows: Q17 E: 0V B: 7.13V C: 0.08V Q16 E: 0V B: 0V C: 7.13V Q18 G: 0.08V S: 6.64V D: 0V I have been measuring and testing voltages and components for the last four days and have run out of things to look at for the moment. If any of you can help me with what my problem is, I would be most grateful. Sincerely, Joseph KI4ITG -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-VCO-Not-Oscillating-tp7588086.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
Excellent post. I learned more than ten years ago from a group of guys in the Black Hills that slowing down to about 22-25 wpm when running gets more answers than showing off and cranking the keyer up to 35+. These guys can all do 50+ head copy but slow it down intentionally to attract more contacts. It works. For about 6 years in a row they were one of the top ten 1A stations during field day. Maybe if the big contest guns did the same we wouldn't have the visceral anti-contest attitudes displayed, and get more people involved. On 4/29/2014 9:09 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: INT QRQ [also QRQ?]: Shall I send faster? QRQ nn: Send faster, nn WPM We hams nounify and verbify International Q-Signals all the time, and QRQ in casual conversation means someone who sends and receives Morse at rates generally higher than the normal proletariat on the CW bands and in contests ... which tend to be higher than normal conversation, not a whole lot to say and often it's predictable. :-) The alleged Morse receiving record is held by Ted McElroy from sometime in the first half of the 20th century ... around 75 WPM on text taken from the newspaper. I do hear about those over 100 [units not always specified], I really don't know how to interpret that. I first met Joe, now N8EA, at Keesler AFB in Biloxi MS when we were both very much younger, I was 22 and he might have still been in his very late teens, or maybe 20. Joe could head copy 50+ WPM. I think he still can. I'd say he could paddle it too except I could *not* copy 50 WPM so how would I know when he did send? QRQ [as a noun meaning very fast CW] is a personal thing. It depends on your Morse experience, how old you are, and other factors. Receiving QRQ limit for me is around 40 WPM, but I doubt I'd try and engage D4C in a debate at 40 wpm however. My limit with a paddle has declined to around 25, maybe 28 on a good day, it's been inversely proportional to the number of accumulated birthdays. For a CW newbie, 20 WPM character speed and 12 WPM net speed could be QRQ ... a struggle. My K3 has a QRQ mode [unused by me] that improves the keying and QSK at very high speeds, most of which I think come from keyboards these days. I hope we don't get back into the nonsense of Extra, Extra Lite, and No Code Extras. You take the test on the day you take the test. It is what it is right then. You pass, you get your license and it's as good as mine from 1956 ... period. We're all in this together. In the Summits On The Air crowd, a number of formerly SSB/FM-only ops are actively learning CW. I know there are others. Every legal mode is OK, and we're pretty good at sharing our spectrum allocations. Others on the planet could actually learn from us. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
I am accused by some of sending too fast in CW contests; I like fast. My typical CQ speed in this years ARRL DX and CQWW contests was in the 35-42 wpm range. When the stations are loud, and the ops good, I stick with 40-44 WPM, but when the pile thins and there are less callers, I slow it down. What I've found is that, in most contests, contrary to what Kevin was saying, QRQ does not stop people from calling you. Many, many guys come back to me on straight keys at 15-20 WPM but don't ask for QRS or fills -- most contest exchanges are pretty darn easy. If the callers stop calling, I often QRS to see if there are some people waiting to call but can't copy. I find few. I also find that QSO Rate is directly affected by speed. For me, the true sweet spot is in the 32-38 wpm range. Maybe a bit slower in Sweepstakes. I don't consider these speeds showing off. (I also hate big swings in speed in the exchange!) I was blessed when I was a teenager -- some 35 years ago -- to ragchew with a bunch of friends on 40m who were into QRQ with keyboards. Gerry can you copy? Yes? They would increase speed until I was barely able to copy. So -- now general conversation at 50wpm is OK in my head. Ham-type QSOs I can go much faster -- in the 60s probably.Many years of traffic handling helped as well. Contest QSOs are very predictable -- so they are so easy to copy. One other note on speed... I operated W1AW/! from Massachusetts the first day it was on... It was the first time that state was on 20m CW with the 'AW/1 call. The pile was HUGE, about 2.5 kHz wide. Everyone was loud and the ops were great. So, I cranked the speed up to 48 wpm. It was GREAT! No one left the pile (how hard is 5NN MA?) I had no QRS requests. Since this is the K3 reflector, I'll say I use the K3 in QSK mode for all my CW contesting -- I love it. Very smooth. The only issue I had this year was so much loud backscatter, especially on 20 and 10m. The echoes were so loud that it would really confuse if trying to send from the paddle (which I rarely do!) Never an issue with the K3 driving an Alpha 87A in QSK. Love it! 73, Gerry W1VE (AK4L back in the teenage years) Gerry Hull, W1VE | Nelson, NH USA | +1-617-CW-SPARK AKA: VE1RM | VY2CDX | VO1CDX | 6Y6C | 8P9RM http://www.yccc.org http://www.yccc.org/ http://www.facebook.com/gerryhull https://plus.google.com/+GerryHull/posts http://www.twitter.com/w1ve On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Kevin Stover kevin.sto...@mediacombb.netwrote: Excellent post. I learned more than ten years ago from a group of guys in the Black Hills that slowing down to about 22-25 wpm when running gets more answers than showing off and cranking the keyer up to 35+. These guys can all do 50+ head copy but slow it down intentionally to attract more contacts. It works. For about 6 years in a row they were one of the top ten 1A stations during field day. Maybe if the big contest guns did the same we wouldn't have the visceral anti-contest attitudes displayed, and get more people involved. On 4/29/2014 9:09 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: INT QRQ [also QRQ?]: Shall I send faster? QRQ nn: Send faster, nn WPM We hams nounify and verbify International Q-Signals all the time, and QRQ in casual conversation means someone who sends and receives Morse at rates generally higher than the normal proletariat on the CW bands and in contests ... which tend to be higher than normal conversation, not a whole lot to say and often it's predictable. :-) The alleged Morse receiving record is held by Ted McElroy from sometime in the first half of the 20th century ... around 75 WPM on text taken from the newspaper. I do hear about those over 100 [units not always specified], I really don't know how to interpret that. I first met Joe, now N8EA, at Keesler AFB in Biloxi MS when we were both very much younger, I was 22 and he might have still been in his very late teens, or maybe 20. Joe could head copy 50+ WPM. I think he still can. I'd say he could paddle it too except I could *not* copy 50 WPM so how would I know when he did send? QRQ [as a noun meaning very fast CW] is a personal thing. It depends on your Morse experience, how old you are, and other factors. Receiving QRQ limit for me is around 40 WPM, but I doubt I'd try and engage D4C in a debate at 40 wpm however. My limit with a paddle has declined to around 25, maybe 28 on a good day, it's been inversely proportional to the number of accumulated birthdays. For a CW newbie, 20 WPM character speed and 12 WPM net speed could be QRQ ... a struggle. My K3 has a QRQ mode [unused by me] that improves the keying and QSK at very high speeds, most of which I think come from keyboards these days. I hope we don't get back into the nonsense of Extra, Extra Lite, and No Code Extras. You take the test on the day you take the test. It is what it is right then. You pass, you get your license and it's as good as mine from
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 06:49:18 -0500, Kevin Stover wrote: Maybe if the big contest guns did the same we wouldn't have the visceral anti-contest attitudes displayed, and get more people involved. You're talking to one of the anti crowd. It has nothing to do with speed. It has to do with the fact that most of us don't like the chaos of contests, and the fact that for some reason, people seem to think there needs to be some sort of contest every damned weekend. Boy do I relish the old days where there were less than a hand full of contests a year. The two main ones were Field Day and Sweepstakes. If you were into DX, there was the annual DX contest. Contests were something SPECIAL those days, and even I took part in them. They were fun because they were special. These days, there's nothing special at all about them. You can't even get a meaningful signal report now. Your 5NN, but would you repeat because you're too weak to copy. They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't enjoy the bands. Gary -- http://ag0n.net 3055: http://ag0n.net/irlp/3055 NodeOp Help Page: http://ag0n.net/irlp __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
Probably also very disconcerting for many of those coming from a V/UHF background, with recently obtained HF privileges, who just want to have a meaningful QSO. 73 de Dennis KD7CAC Scottsdale, AZ On Apr 30, 2014, at 5:53 AM, AG0N-3055 mcduf...@ag0n.net wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 06:49:18 -0500, Kevin Stover wrote: Maybe if the big contest guns did the same we wouldn't have the visceral anti-contest attitudes displayed, and get more people involved. You're talking to one of the anti crowd. It has nothing to do with speed. It has to do with the fact that most of us don't like the chaos of contests, and the fact that for some reason, people seem to think there needs to be some sort of contest every damned weekend. Boy do I relish the old days where there were less than a hand full of contests a year. The two main ones were Field Day and Sweepstakes. If you were into DX, there was the annual DX contest. Contests were something SPECIAL those days, and even I took part in them. They were fun because they were special. These days, there's nothing special at all about them. You can't even get a meaningful signal report now. Your 5NN, but would you repeat because you're too weak to copy. They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't enjoy the bands. Gary -- http://ag0n.net 3055: http://ag0n.net/irlp/3055 NodeOp Help Page: http://ag0n.net/irlp __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
BINGO! Jeff - KG7HDZ Probably also very disconcerting for many of those coming from a V/UHF background, with recently obtained HF privileges, who just want to have a meaningful QSO. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
Hi All, I don't know if there is an official definition of QRQ, but 30 to 35 wpm is pretty speedy compared to most. I can copy that, and maybe just a tad bit faster, but not much, and don’t do it often enough anymore to be very good at that speed. I'm not much good at trying to send at that speed, however. That really takes more practice. When I was copying at those higher speeds, it was usually with a Mil, or just in my head. There are a lot of folks out there enjoying some real QRQ, at speeds in excess of 50 wpm. I think that is great, but it's not for me. A good friend, Chuck, W5UXH, does that a good bit, and he like to create his own keyboards. Now, Chuck is most capable without one, but he likes the process. I remember years ago, when Chuck and I used to chat with some regularity, he kept urging me to go faster! I don't know what his upper limit is, but I sure wasn't able to test it!!! No keyboards back then. I tend to agree that 30 wpm, more or less, is a good speed for contests. For whatever reason, stations going much faster than that are harder for me to copy unless their sig is really good. My keyer tends to be set around 25 wpm, and I move up or down about 5 wpm as dictated by the other station. Seems to work for me 90% of the time. I think I can almost always tell when a keyboard is being used. The spacing is too perfect! Some folks fool me, but not many. Of course, the dead give away is when you hear periods and apostrophes coming across with regularity. Dave W7AQK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] [OT] W8FGU Out of service for awhile
My apologies to the list for the bandwidth. But I wanted to let all of my current and near future customers know that my shop will be closed down for the next week or so. I have a fire suppression system in my home (required here when you live more than 500' from a hydrant) and it suffered a pipe break located where I have my shop setup in the basement. Unfortunately, I have water every where and on a lot on my power tools. I'm heading to a big box store right now to get the parts to fix the break, but the clean up is going to take some time. This occurred late last night and I already have rust on all my saw tables and the like. Water sure is good for putting out fires, but comes with it's own set of problems. I can certainly still take enclosure orders, but just know that it may take a few days to a week to put them together. Thanks for the bandwidth. 73, Dave W8FGU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Calibrating KTCXO3 with the XG3
Slava, Most external reference sources have an output of +10 dBm or somewhere around that level. It is not a matter of simply calibrating, the external reference is intended to be connected continuously. Yes, there is a data table created that can be used when the reference is not present. I really can't answer about the level of the XG3, but I am certain the frequency accuracy it is not as tight as a real external reference - rubidium standard or GPS disiplined oscillator. The spec for the XG3 is +/- 50 ppm while an external reference is typically stated in parts per billion. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/29/2014 11:18 PM, Slava Baytalskiy wrote: Hello again, everyone! I just installed the K3EXREF board in my K3 and i also have the KTCXO3 unit in there from before. The idea was to use the XG3 as the external 10 MHz reference for calibration. I wasn't thrilled with the accuracy of the zero-beat method that i was using (or rather i wasn't thrilled with MY accuracy). I think i did the procedure correctly: went to REF CAL menu, enabled the K3EXREF, hooked up the BNC cable, the asterisk started flashing, the frequency changed (clearly the zero-beat i did before wasn't correct). My only question is about the output level of the XG3: i used the zero dBm. But the calibration procedure mentioned that the reference signal should be between +4 dBm and something else (higher). XG3 doesn't seem to go that high though. Is that ok? Using zero dBm for this? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] [OT] Fred, K6DGW - Ken, K0PP email...
If you'll permit me one more OT post. Fred and Ken - I have sent each of you a couple of private emails in the past couple of weeks. But I'm not sure if they are getting through. I've been having some sending problems with my Comcast accounts that started a few weeks ago when they sort of acknowledged that they had a massive security breach. Anyway, I can see your posts to the list, so if you can let me know if you received anything, I would appreciate it. If not, I can try to use a different mail carrier. 73, Dave W8FGU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
I have QSOed with W4BQF at 70-90 WPM (thought it's been a few years...) The CW sounded fine, though don't know if Tom was running his K3 at the time. Personally, I never use QSK. I find it annoying to have the noise pop in between characters. Regarding the anti-contesters, to each their own. What grates on my nerves is hearing the newer hams start every transmission on 2m FM with Copy that, the VHF version of please copy... :-) Barry W2UP -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/QRQ-CW-tp7588139p7588178.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
I'm with you on this, Gary. Too many contests cluttering the bands these days; the list for one month fills a page or more. In the past I participated casually. Nowadays, not at all. Phil w7ox On 4/30/14, 5:53 AM, AG0N-3055 wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 06:49:18 -0500, Kevin Stover wrote: Maybe if the big contest guns did the same we wouldn't have the visceral anti-contest attitudes displayed, and get more people involved. You're talking to one of the anti crowd. It has nothing to do with speed. It has to do with the fact that most of us don't like the chaos of contests, and the fact that for some reason, people seem to think there needs to be some sort of contest every damned weekend. Boy do I relish the old days where there were less than a hand full of contests a year. The two main ones were Field Day and Sweepstakes. If you were into DX, there was the annual DX contest. Contests were something SPECIAL those days, and even I took part in them. They were fun because they were special. These days, there's nothing special at all about them. You can't even get a meaningful signal report now. Your 5NN, but would you repeat because you're too weak to copy. They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't enjoy the bands. Gary __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
I always thought the phrase Copy That was a holdover from either pilot or military lingo, much like saying Niner for the number 9. 73, Chas - Original Message - From: Barry w...@comcast.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW I have QSOed with W4BQF at 70-90 WPM (thought it's been a few years...) The CW sounded fine, though don't know if Tom was running his K3 at the time. Personally, I never use QSK. I find it annoying to have the noise pop in between characters. Regarding the anti-contesters, to each their own. What grates on my nerves is hearing the newer hams start every transmission on 2m FM with Copy that, the VHF version of please copy... :-) Barry W2UP -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/QRQ-CW-tp7588139p7588178.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pin...@erols.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
That's what the WARC bands are for, plenty of room there! ;-) 73 de NS9I - . .. - On 4/30/2014 7:53 AM, AG0N-3055 wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 06:49:18 -0500, Kevin Stover wrote: Maybe if the big contest guns did the same we wouldn't have the visceral anti-contest attitudes displayed, and get more people involved. You're talking to one of the anti crowd. It has nothing to do with speed. It has to do with the fact that most of us don't like the chaos of contests, and the fact that for some reason, people seem to think there needs to be some sort of contest every damned weekend. Boy do I relish the old days where there were less than a hand full of contests a year. The two main ones were Field Day and Sweepstakes. If you were into DX, there was the annual DX contest. Contests were something SPECIAL those days, and even I took part in them. They were fun because they were special. These days, there's nothing special at all about them. You can't even get a meaningful signal report now. Your 5NN, but would you repeat because you're too weak to copy. They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't enjoy the bands. Gary __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] QRQ CW
What I encounter frequently in contests is stations using two speeds within each QSO. The slower (usually ~30 WPM) sends the unique information such as the call sign of the station being worked and the S/N where that's required; and the higher speed (which I can't estimate) for common exchange elements such as the ubiquitous 599 and the QTH or whatever else is the same for every contact. Where stations use speeds much in excess of 35 WPM for their own call sign it does waste time, I suspect, with others having to listen two or three times to get it down right. Someone with math skills better than mine might calculate how much time is saved sending 50+ rather than 30 in a contest QSO, given the irreducible time for the rest of the exchange (the reply, typing into the log, waiting for the next guy in the pileup, etc.) and the probability that the other side is sending at 30. I'll bet it's not much. Ted, KN1CBR -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 20:07:07 + From: Brian Alsop als...@nc.rr.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] QRQ CW Message-ID: 5360066b.7060...@nc.rr.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed There was a thread on QRQ CW here. Also a query about does anybody send QRQ CW. For 2013 CQ WW contest N6TV did an analysis. The answer was 30+ WPM average. The top speeds were in excess of 50 WPM! See: http://cqww.com/blog/?p=302 With all the K3's being used by contesters, it doesn't appear that contesters are running into QSD problems at 30+ WPM. 73 de Brian/K3KO - When did it creep that low? I suppose it is a victim of the lack of CW requirement or something like that. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 with Dx Doubler
Hi everyone How to connect the DX Doubler with the K3, I received the cable but I don’t know how to connect it to the radio. I use Heil Proset and also Timewave DSP-59+. Any help will be well appreciated. Thanks Alfredo Vélez WP3C Skype: wp3c.pr e-mail: mailto:w...@aol.com Web: http://wp3c.comule.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Calibrating KTCXO3 with the XG3
Typically, the Trimble Thunderbolt GPSDO 10 MHZ reference exceeds +/-100 PPT. Not sure of the statistics, but that's the high end of the range Lady Heather reports. This GPSDO outputs a slightly distorted sine wave at around 8 dBm, which is within the K3's rated input range. I just leave mine connected full-time. 73, matt W6NIA On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:25:02 -0400, you wrote: Slava, Most external reference sources have an output of +10 dBm or somewhere around that level. It is not a matter of simply calibrating, the external reference is intended to be connected continuously. Yes, there is a data table created that can be used when the reference is not present. I really can't answer about the level of the XG3, but I am certain the frequency accuracy it is not as tight as a real external reference - rubidium standard or GPS disiplined oscillator. The spec for the XG3 is +/- 50 ppm while an external reference is typically stated in parts per billion. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/29/2014 11:18 PM, Slava Baytalskiy wrote: Hello again, everyone! I just installed the K3EXREF board in my K3 and i also have the KTCXO3 unit in there from before. The idea was to use the XG3 as the external 10 MHz reference for calibration. I wasn't thrilled with the accuracy of the zero-beat method that i was using (or rather i wasn't thrilled with MY accuracy). I think i did the procedure correctly: went to REF CAL menu, enabled the K3EXREF, hooked up the BNC cable, the asterisk started flashing, the frequency changed (clearly the zero-beat i did before wasn't correct). My only question is about the output level of the XG3: i used the zero dBm. But the calibration procedure mentioned that the reference signal should be between +4 dBm and something else (higher). XG3 doesn't seem to go that high though. Is that ok? Using zero dBm for this? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mzil...@roadrunner.com Matt Zilmer, W6NIA www.elecraft.com 831-763-4211 x129 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 with Dx Doubler
Hi everyone How to connect the DX Doubler with the K3, I received the cable but I don’t know how to connect it to the radio. I use Heil Proset and also Timewave DSP-59+. Any help will be well appreciated. Thanks Alfredo Vélez WP3C Skype: wp3c.pr e-mail: mailto:w...@aol.com Web: http://wp3c.comule.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3-KXV3A Power output
Having just completed a recalibration of the power levels I noticed that the 28MHz transverter output only varies by approx. 4dB when the front panel power control is rotated from 0 to -10dB. Has anyone else experienced this and is it usual or just in my K3? Does anyone have any suggestions to improve the power control range assuming its not a fault, or feature. 73 Peter G3SMT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
On Wed 30 Apr DGB wrote: That's what the WARC bands are for, plenty of room there! ;-) Yeah, right... /sarcasm ;) I don't do contests, so I tend to take big contest weekends as weekends for doing something else; the contest bands will be jammed with contesters, and the WARC bands that are open will be jammed with contest-avioding folk, so why bother with the radio? After all, the contests will be over, and there'll be space on the bands, by Monday. As a Morse beginner (primarily motivated by Summits On The Air), anything from about 15wpm up is QRQ by my standards, and I won't bother trying to answer anyone going much over 25wpm, even if they are on a never-before-activated 10-point summit... and if I'm on a summit and have to resort to CW (and my Morse is not the best, so I usually only use it when SSB isn't getting me anywhere) then I'll most definitely ask for QRS. -- ... 73, Rick, M0LEP (KX3 #3281) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out SOLVED
In the interest of future readers, here is what I found. I had the LIN OUT menu item set to NOR 10 as recommended. In fact, they warn of going over that level. However, when you turn on the SUB RX, the signal is split and you lose 3db. This can be heard in the headphones. It seems it also affects the Line Out. When I increased the LIN OUT level to 35, the Sub Rx could be heard in the right channel of the Line Out. I have no idea how linear the LIN OUT level setting is but I suspect that increase to 35 is what was needed to overcome the attenuation that occurs when the Sub Rx switches in. Now the issue is, the output seems unbalanced with the Main Rx signal on the left channel of the Line Out jack being louder than the Sub Rx signal on the right channel. I am able to compensate for this by turning down the Main Rx gain control on the MicroHam MKII. I wasn't able to even them out with the RF Gain control on the K3 but I will play around with that some more. Buck k4ia On 4/29/2014 11:43 AM, Buck - k4ia via Elecraft wrote: Joe - that is what I have set up. If I turn on the Sub Rx and plug a set of headphones directly into the K3 Line Out jack in the back, I hear audio on the left channel only. So I don't think it is the MH cable pigtail. The problem seems to be in the K3. Sub Rx works fine in the headphone jack on the front. This is the first time I have tried to listen to the Sub Rx through the rear Line Out jack. I was hoping it was a menu setting I was missing. I will check L2. I guess you are telling me it could be open? Why would that happen? Buck k4ia On 4/29/2014 9:50 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Buck, Where (how) are you connecting between the K3 and MK II? You should use a the stereo audio cable supplied with MK II to connect the 3.5mm pigtail on the LINE OUT plug of the DB3-EL-K23 or K3R cable set to the Sub RX jack on the back of MK II. Sub RX audio is present *only* when the SUB icon is displayed on the K3 display (DUAL or DIVERSITY). If the Sub RX is on and you have audio in right headphone connected to the headphone jack but no audio in the right channel (ring) of the LINE OUT (or tip of the pigtail on the DB37-EL-K23/K3R) I would check L2 on the KIO3 Audio I/O board. Check for audio directly at the LINE OUT jack and at the pigtail in case you've snagged the pigtail and broken a wire in either jack. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 4/29/2014 8:22 AM, K4ia via Elecraft wrote: I played with that setting to no avail. I am going into a Microham KeyerII which has a separate audio line for the Sub Rx. If I plug headphones into the Line Out jack on the back of the K3, I hear signals on the left side but nothing on the right so I am convinced it is the output from the K3 that is missing, not an issue with the computer or MKII. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 On 4/29/2014 8:05 AM, Sam Morgan wrote: hmmm, what is your Line Out set to? mine is the recommended 010 also is the computer a desktop or laptop? On 4/29/2014 6:47 AM, K4ia wrote: Thanks Sam but that isn't it. I get the Sub RX audio just fine in the headphones. What I am missing is the Sub Rx on the right channel of the Line Out jack on the back of the radio. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] via Elecraft
Why do some of the sender's names in the Elecraft Reflector have via Elecraft after their name? - 73, John, N0TA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out SOLVED
Thank you I have been watching this thread From: Buck - k4ia via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out SOLVED In the interest of future readers, here is what I found. I had the LIN OUT menu item set to NOR 10 as recommended. In fact, they warn of going over that level. However, when you turn on the SUB RX, the signal is split and you lose 3db. This can be heard in the headphones. It seems it also affects the Line Out. When I increased the LIN OUT level to 35, the Sub Rx could be heard in the right channel of the Line Out. I have no idea how linear the LIN OUT level setting is but I suspect that increase to 35 is what was needed to overcome the attenuation that occurs when the Sub Rx switches in. Now the issue is, the output seems unbalanced with the Main Rx signal on the left channel of the Line Out jack being louder than the Sub Rx signal on the right channel. I am able to compensate for this by turning down the Main Rx gain control on the MicroHam MKII. I wasn't able to even them out with the RF Gain control on the K3 but I will play around with that some more. Buck k4ia On 4/29/2014 11:43 AM, Buck - k4ia via Elecraft wrote: Joe - that is what I have set up. If I turn on the Sub Rx and plug a set of headphones directly into the K3 Line Out jack in the back, I hear audio on the left channel only. So I don't think it is the MH cable pigtail. The problem seems to be in the K3. Sub Rx works fine in the headphone jack on the front. This is the first time I have tried to listen to the Sub Rx through the rear Line Out jack. I was hoping it was a menu setting I was missing. I will check L2. I guess you are telling me it could be open? Why would that happen? Buck k4ia On 4/29/2014 9:50 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Buck, Where (how) are you connecting between the K3 and MK II? You should use a the stereo audio cable supplied with MK II to connect the 3.5mm pigtail on the LINE OUT plug of the DB3-EL-K23 or K3R cable set to the Sub RX jack on the back of MK II. Sub RX audio is present *only* when the SUB icon is displayed on the K3 display (DUAL or DIVERSITY). If the Sub RX is on and you have audio in right headphone connected to the headphone jack but no audio in the right channel (ring) of the LINE OUT (or tip of the pigtail on the DB37-EL-K23/K3R) I would check L2 on the KIO3 Audio I/O board. Check for audio directly at the LINE OUT jack and at the pigtail in case you've snagged the pigtail and broken a wire in either jack. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 4/29/2014 8:22 AM, K4ia via Elecraft wrote: I played with that setting to no avail. I am going into a Microham KeyerII which has a separate audio line for the Sub Rx. If I plug headphones into the Line Out jack on the back of the K3, I hear signals on the left side but nothing on the right so I am convinced it is the output from the K3 that is missing, not an issue with the computer or MKII. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 On 4/29/2014 8:05 AM, Sam Morgan wrote: hmmm, what is your Line Out set to? mine is the recommended 010 also is the computer a desktop or laptop? On 4/29/2014 6:47 AM, K4ia wrote: Thanks Sam but that isn't it. I get the Sub RX audio just fine in the headphones. What I am missing is the Sub Rx on the right channel of the Line Out jack on the back of the radio. Buck k4ia K3# 101 KX3 #715 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:
[Elecraft] K3 Tx audio coming through speaker
Hi all, After working perfectly for awhile my K3 has developed the following problem, when I key the mike and transmit in SSB mode the audo is coming through the speaker while i’m transmitting, I have not got monitor turned on and this happens wether using the internal speaker or headphones. I’m hoping this is just caused by me altering a parameter in the menu’s that I shouldn’t have done. Thank you in advance for your help Regards Graham G7NEH K3/100 #8095 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Carrier always 6khz below freq.
Thank you for the replies. The coax provided by Elecraft is good, but I had it twisted around other cables when connected between the K3 IF output and the P3 IF input. I disconnected the cable from the P3, rerouted it from the K3 so as not to wrap around numerous other cables, and the troublesome inaudible carrier disappeared. Problem is now solved and maybe this experience helps others. The connecting cable is very well made and shielded, but direct contact with other coax/cables created RF that did get into the P3. Ron -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Carrier-always-6khz-below-freq-tp7588141p7588193.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KX3 For Sale
Only several months old (s/n 5428). Loved the radio so much I upgraded to K3 base station in order to use separate receive and transmit antennas. The radio never left the desk, like new condition. Radio is in Denver, CO. Paid over $1400, asking $1200 with all items shown below. KX3 (all options factory assembled and calibrated) KX3-PCKT PCKT Accessory Cable Set KXAT3 Auto Antenna Tuner KXBC3 Internal NiMH Battery Charger/Clock KXFL3 Dual-Passband Roofing Filter MH3 Elecraft Microphone Also includes KX3 Owner’s Manual Fred Cady's The Elecraft KX3 Extended Manual Ron Schwartz, K2RAS Please respond to rs500...@icloud.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Contest QRM
On 4/30/2014 5:53 AM, AG0N-3055 wrote: They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't enjoy the bands. Contests always avoid the WARC bands, and most contests are a single mode -- CW or SSB or RTTY -- leaving lots of space for those who don't enjoy them. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K2 problem: no tx output on 15 and 17m
Any advice please? My K2 suddenly lost tx output on 15 and 17 (actually still a tiny amount - less than a watt). Still receiving OK on those bands. I removed the 100w amp and the problem relates to the K2 barefoot. There is common circuitry on these bands - any suggestions where to start checking pl? The K2 is still working OK on all other bands. 73 Nick G3RWF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
I have to fully agree, personally I have never seen the point of contesting, it all seems pretty pointless. In nearly every contest, I see the same thing contesters with little regard for other Amateurs. I like to run JT65 and SSTV and on on the CW and RTTY contest the JT65 Frequencies are Full with CW or RTTY and on the SSB contest the SSTV frequencies are full SSB voice contesters. And the typical response from contesters are Use the WARC Bands. I guess some must have a need to do something to make themselves feel special. From: AG0N-3055 mcduf...@ag0n.net To: Kevin Stover kevin.sto...@mediacombb.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 06:49:18 -0500, Kevin Stover wrote: Maybe if the big contest guns did the same we wouldn't have the visceral anti-contest attitudes displayed, and get more people involved. You're talking to one of the anti crowd. It has nothing to do with speed. It has to do with the fact that most of us don't like the chaos of contests, and the fact that for some reason, people seem to think there needs to be some sort of contest every damned weekend. Boy do I relish the old days where there were less than a hand full of contests a year. The two main ones were Field Day and Sweepstakes. If you were into DX, there was the annual DX contest. Contests were something SPECIAL those days, and even I took part in them. They were fun because they were special. These days, there's nothing special at all about them. You can't even get a meaningful signal report now. Your 5NN, but would you repeat because you're too weak to copy. They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't enjoy the bands. Gary -- http://ag0n.net 3055: http://ag0n.net/irlp/3055 NodeOp Help Page: http://ag0n.net/irlp __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Contest QRM
I am always amazed at those that point to a chart and say there are contests every weekend. I only operate the big contests of which there are 5 a year that affect each mode that I can think of. The rest are small and occupy very little band space if you even notice them at all. If that really bothers you then I feel sorry for you. It must be tough that things bother you to that extent. Plus, as Jim says, the WARC bands are contest free zones. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:16 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Contest QRM On 4/30/2014 5:53 AM, AG0N-3055 wrote: They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't enjoy the bands. Contests always avoid the WARC bands, and most contests are a single mode -- CW or SSB or RTTY -- leaving lots of space for those who don't enjoy them. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@kq8m.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
What all these postings have to do with Elecraft except that K3 is a choise of many contesters? Over 50% of last WRTC participants were using Elecraft. I am sure that contesters are a lion share of Elecraft customers both in number and volume. 73, Igor UA9CDC User of K2, K3, KX3, KXPA100, KAT500 etc and contester :) - Original Message - From: Harry Yingst via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW I have to fully agree, personally I have never seen the point of contesting, it all seems pretty pointless. In nearly every contest, I see the same thing contesters with little regard for other Amateurs. I like to run JT65 and SSTV and on on the CW and RTTY contest the JT65 Frequencies are Full with CW or RTTY and on the SSB contest the SSTV frequencies are full SSB voice contesters. And the typical response from contesters are Use the WARC Bands. I guess some must have a need to do something to make themselves feel special. From: AG0N-3055 mcduf...@ag0n.net To: Kevin Stover kevin.sto...@mediacombb.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 06:49:18 -0500, Kevin Stover wrote: Maybe if the big contest guns did the same we wouldn't have the visceral anti-contest attitudes displayed, and get more people involved. You're talking to one of the anti crowd. It has nothing to do with speed. It has to do with the fact that most of us don't like the chaos of contests, and the fact that for some reason, people seem to think there needs to be some sort of contest every damned weekend. Boy do I relish the old days where there were less than a hand full of contests a year. The two main ones were Field Day and Sweepstakes. If you were into DX, there was the annual DX contest. Contests were something SPECIAL those days, and even I took part in them. They were fun because they were special. These days, there's nothing special at all about them. You can't even get a meaningful signal report now. Your 5NN, but would you repeat because you're too weak to copy. They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't enjoy the bands. Gary -- http://ag0n.net 3055: http://ag0n.net/irlp/3055 NodeOp Help Page: http://ag0n.net/irlp __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ua9...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
I eight years as a flier in the Air Force during the Vietnam era and 15 years as private, instrument rated pilot I do not recall ever hearing Copy That on the radio. We were trained to use Niner for Nine because it was easier to be sure what you heard in a series of numbers. It is really important whether you meant Niner thousand or Five thousand feet. The only time I recall hearing Copy That was in the inane commercial where two actors were conversing with a series of Copy Thats. I have heard things like Copy Niner Thousand. To repeat a controllers instruction when it is very important to get it correctly. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart From: Charlie T, K3ICH pin...@erols.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW I always thought the phrase Copy That was a holdover from either pilot or military lingo, much like saying Niner for the number 9. 73, Chas - Original Message - From: Barry w...@comcast.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW I have QSOed with W4BQF at 70-90 WPM (thought it's been a few years...) The CW sounded fine, though don't know if Tom was running his K3 at the time. Personally, I never use QSK. I find it annoying to have the noise pop in between characters. Regarding the anti-contesters, to each their own. What grates on my nerves is hearing the newer hams start every transmission on 2m FM with Copy that, the VHF version of please copy... :-) Barry W2UP -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/QRQ-CW-tp7588139p7588178.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pin...@erols.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wrco...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 120, Issue 72
I am building a XV144 transciever for connection to my K3. I have never used a transverter before. In reading the construction manual and the operators manual I conclude that when I switch to 10 meters on the K3 that the xv144 is switched in, the K3 display will indicate in the 144 mHz range and I will be tx rx on 2 meters. How then do I operate on 10 meters? Do I have to disconnect the xv144? I don't see any instructions re. this situation?? PJH, N7PXY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
The made up radio jargon which bothers me the most is over and out. Which do you mean: over or out? They mean very different things and CANNOT be used simultaneously. However, few TV writers have any experience at comms. 73, Kevin. KD5ONS On 4/30/2014 9:58 AM, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft wrote: I eight years as a flier in the Air Force during the Vietnam era and 15 years as private, instrument rated pilot I do not recall ever hearing Copy That on the radio. We were trained to use Niner for Nine because it was easier to be sure what you heard in a series of numbers. It is really important whether you meant Niner thousand or Five thousand feet. The only time I recall hearing Copy That was in the inane commercial where two actors were conversing with a series of Copy Thats. I have heard things like Copy Niner Thousand. To repeat a controllers instruction when it is very important to get it correctly. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
I have my own definition of QRQ. It is anything faster than I can copy at any given time. 73, Jim - W4BQP K2 #2268, KX3 #2857 Licensed since 1953 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Contesting vs Not (re: QRO CW)
Amateur radio operators share interest and do not share interest in the various aspects of this wonderful avocation. Tolerance is something we all should share. But, being a rtty contest participant, I must note my observation that during rtty contests, at least on 20, 15 and 10 meters , most contesters try to avoid the psk segments, and somewhat the JT65/9 area (perhaps for the latter not so effectively because the remarkably effective low level signals may not be heard). Remember that we only note the interference of those who are interfering, not the vast majority who do care about not interfering. I have never seen anyone type use the warc bands. Dave, K2YG On 4/30/2014 12:18 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 29 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:18:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Harry Yingst via Elecraftelecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW Message-ID: 1398874731.19289.yahoomail...@web125904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have to fully agree, personally I have never seen the point of contesting, it all seems pretty pointless. In nearly every contest, I see the same thing contesters with little regard for other Amateurs. I like to run JT65 and SSTV and on on the CW and RTTY contest the JT65 Frequencies?are?Full with?CW or RTTY?and on the SSB contest the SSTV frequencies are full SSB voice contesters. And the typical response from contesters are Use the WARC Bands. I guess some must have a need to do something to make themselves feel special. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 problem: no tx output on 15 and 17m
Sounds to me like a dry joint or poor connection in the LPF for 15/17m. Check relay K11, L23 L24, and C218-C222. 73, Matt VK2RQ On 1 May 2014, at 2:18 am, Nick Henwood n...@henwood.demon.co.uk wrote: Any advice please? My K2 suddenly lost tx output on 15 and 17 (actually still a tiny amount - less than a watt). Still receiving OK on those bands. I removed the 100w amp and the problem relates to the K2 barefoot. There is common circuitry on these bands - any suggestions where to start checking pl? The K2 is still working OK on all other bands. 73 Nick G3RWF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
I thought it as from CB as in Copy that, Good Buddy :-) 73 Phil w7ox On 4/30/14, 7:10 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote: I always thought the phrase Copy That was a holdover from either pilot or military lingo, much like saying Niner for the number 9. 73, Chas - Original Message - From: Barry w...@comcast.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW I have QSOed with W4BQF at 70-90 WPM (thought it's been a few years...) The CW sounded fine, though don't know if Tom was running his K3 at the time. Personally, I never use QSK. I find it annoying to have the noise pop in between characters. Regarding the anti-contesters, to each their own. What grates on my nerves is hearing the newer hams start every transmission on 2m FM with Copy that, the VHF version of please copy... :-) Barry W2UP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out SOLVED
Sorry Buck but it doesn't sound solved to me. I've been following this thread and have just for sanities sake done the following test: Line out = 7 Main and Sub RX set to frequency of my XG1 (approx 7040kHz) XG1 set to 1uV out Spectrogram set to stereo input Windows sound mixer balanced L R channel Both Sub and Main RX on CW both with 500Hz roofers and 400Hz DSP, both filter gain compensation setting 4dB Main RX level from Spectrogram = -82dB Sub RX level from Spectrogram = -85dB If it turn off Sub RX, main RX level increases to -79dB Clearly there are measurement calibration issues here, I didn't inject a fixed level test tone into each of the LR channels on the PC to check the balance. Never the less I would conclude there is still something very wrong with your line out. Regards, Mike VP8NO snip In the interest of future readers, here is what I found. I had the LIN OUT menu item set to NOR 10 as recommended. In fact, they warn of going over that level. However, when you turn on the SUB RX, the signal is split and you lose 3db. This can be heard in the headphones. It seems it also affects the Line Out. When I increased the LIN OUT level to 35, the Sub Rx could be heard in the right channel of the Line Out. I have no idea how linear the LIN OUT level setting is but I suspect that increase to 35 is what was needed to overcome the attenuation that occurs when the Sub Rx switches in. Now the issue is, the output seems unbalanced with the Main Rx signal on the left channel of the Line Out jack being louder than the Sub Rx signal on the right channel. I am able to compensate for this by turning down the Main Rx gain control on the MicroHam MKII. I wasn't able to even them out with the RF Gain control on the K3 but I will play around with that some more. Buck __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 120, Issue 72
PJH, See the Using Transverters section of the K3 manual. You do not have to lose 10 meters at all. You can set the K3 XVx (ON, RF, IF, PWR, OFS, and ADR) menu entries to the RF band that you need (144). The IF for the XV144 to 28, the PWR to match your settings in the XV144, the OFS (offset) to compensate for any errors in the XV144 local oscillator, and ADR to whichever transverter band you wish to use - the switch in the XV144 and the TRN number should agree. If you have the KXV3 (or KXV3A) in your K3, you would connect the 28 MHz IF to the transverter input and output - configure the XV144 for a split IF. Without the KXV3, you will need to connect and disconnect the K3 antenna to feed the 28 MHz signal to the XV144, and you would have to use a common 28 MHz TR/RX cable to the XV144. Things are much easier with the KXV3 in the K3. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/30/2014 12:57 PM, P.J.Hicks wrote: I am building a XV144 transciever for connection to my K3. I have never used a transverter before. In reading the construction manual and the operators manual I conclude that when I switch to 10 meters on the K3 that the xv144 is switched in, the K3 display will indicate in the 144 mHz range and I will be tx rx on 2 meters. How then do I operate on 10 meters? Do I have to disconnect the xv144? I don't see any instructions re. this situation?? PJH, N7PXY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w3...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 problem: no tx output on 15 and 17m
Nick, My best guess is that something has happened in the 15/17 meter bandpass filter. You could verify that guess by doing a check of a couple points in the Transmit Signal Tracing section of Appendix A in the manual. Use the RF Probe or oscilloscope with a 10X probe. You can start on page 14. The two points of interest are the Buffer Output and the Bandpass Filter Output. Of course, you would set the K2 to 15 or 17 meters rather than 40 meters as suggested in the manual. If you have a good amplitude signal at the Buffer Output, but little or none at the Bandpass Filter Output, you have confirmed that the bandpass filter is the problem. If you are also getting HiCur messages, the most likely problem area is the Low Pass Filter rather than the Bandpass Filter. The first thing to check is soldering. An unsoldered or poorly solder connection can work fine for a long time with only mechanical contact, but one day it develops enough oxidation to cause a problem. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/30/2014 12:18 PM, Nick Henwood wrote: Any advice please? My K2 suddenly lost tx output on 15 and 17 (actually still a tiny amount - less than a watt). Still receiving OK on those bands. I removed the 100w amp and the problem relates to the K2 barefoot. There is common circuitry on these bands - any suggestions where to start checking pl? The K2 is still working OK on all other bands. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tx audio coming through speaker
Are you sure it is coming from the K3 speaker and not from speakers on a computer that is connected to the K3 line out output? On 4/30/2014 8:55 AM, Graham Pemberton G7NEH wrote: Hi all, After working perfectly for awhile my K3 has developed the following problem, when I key the mike and transmit in SSB mode the audo is coming through the speaker while i’m transmitting, I have not got monitor turned on and this happens wether using the internal speaker or headphones. I’m hoping this is just caused by me altering a parameter in the menu’s that I shouldn’t have done. Thank you in advance for your help Regards Graham G7NEH K3/100 #8095 -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
The International Q signal for QRQ is Shall I send faster? and does not mention any specific speed. 73, Tom - W4BQF Licensed in 1953 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Campbell Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:13 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW I have my own definition of QRQ. It is anything faster than I can copy at any given time. 73, Jim - W4BQP K2 #2268, KX3 #2857 Licensed since 1953 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to alderm...@windstream.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
And I have never seen the point of JT-anything or indeed any digital mode except CW. But I understand that ham radio is many things to many people, and think we should respect that. On 4/30/2014 9:18 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: I have to fully agree, personally I have never seen the point of contesting, it all seems pretty pointless. In nearly every contest, I see the same thing contesters with little regard for other Amateurs. I like to run JT65 and SSTV and on on the CW and RTTY contest the JT65 Frequencies are Full with CW or RTTY and on the SSB contest the SSTV frequencies are full SSB voice contesters. And the typical response from contesters are Use the WARC Bands. I guess some must have a need to do something to make themselves feel special. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Keyboards revisited
Function keys continue to be a big big deal for contesting and I too am an OT stuck on the side cluster muscle memory. Does anyone know where we could get a USB stand alone cluster of function keys that could be placed along side the regular or laptop keyboard? Or, maybe ASCII programmable 12 F key cluster? John, W1QS Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Keyboards revisited
Look at the Logitech G13 game board and see if it might suit your needs. It has 25 programmable keys, which should be plenty of CW macros. - - 73 de N5ILN Alan On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:51 AM, John Lawrence via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: Function keys continue to be a big big deal for contesting and I too am an OT stuck on the side cluster muscle memory. Does anyone know where we could get a USB stand alone cluster of function keys that could be placed along side the regular or laptop keyboard? Or, maybe ASCII programmable 12 F key cluster? John, W1QS Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to alan.j...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sub RX audio to right Line Out SOLVED
Mike's observations are the same as mine. Using the XG-3 on 20 meters and slow AGC, I see no change in audio output on left (Main RX) when dual RX is enabled. With dual RX enabled, both audio channels are the same level. MENU: LIN OUT is NOR 10. and MK II has RX Main/RX Sub at the same point (12:00 for measurements/comparisons like this - typically 10:00 for normal operation). Windows Sound Control Panel - Recording Devices - Line (microHAM CODEC) Levels tab line level is set to 40 and balance is set for 40 on each channel. Advanced tab |Default Format is set to: 2 channel, 16 bit, 48000 Hz (DVD Quality). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 4/30/2014 1:37 PM, Mike Harris wrote: Sorry Buck but it doesn't sound solved to me. I've been following this thread and have just for sanities sake done the following test: Line out = 7 Main and Sub RX set to frequency of my XG1 (approx 7040kHz) XG1 set to 1uV out Spectrogram set to stereo input Windows sound mixer balanced L R channel Both Sub and Main RX on CW both with 500Hz roofers and 400Hz DSP, both filter gain compensation setting 4dB Main RX level from Spectrogram = -82dB Sub RX level from Spectrogram = -85dB If it turn off Sub RX, main RX level increases to -79dB Clearly there are measurement calibration issues here, I didn't inject a fixed level test tone into each of the LR channels on the PC to check the balance. Never the less I would conclude there is still something very wrong with your line out. Regards, Mike VP8NO snip In the interest of future readers, here is what I found. I had the LIN OUT menu item set to NOR 10 as recommended. In fact, they warn of going over that level. However, when you turn on the SUB RX, the signal is split and you lose 3db. This can be heard in the headphones. It seems it also affects the Line Out. When I increased the LIN OUT level to 35, the Sub Rx could be heard in the right channel of the Line Out. I have no idea how linear the LIN OUT level setting is but I suspect that increase to 35 is what was needed to overcome the attenuation that occurs when the Sub Rx switches in. Now the issue is, the output seems unbalanced with the Main Rx signal on the left channel of the Line Out jack being louder than the Sub Rx signal on the right channel. I am able to compensate for this by turning down the Main Rx gain control on the MicroHam MKII. I wasn't able to even them out with the RF Gain control on the K3 but I will play around with that some more. Buck __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net results for 4/27/2014
Here is the SSB net report for April 27, 2014. We had 34 participants over 30 minutes. Station NameQTH Rig S/N N6JWJohnCA K3 936 W0CZKen ND K3 457 WM6PSteve CA K3 8133 KM4IK Ian GA K3 281 WW4JF JohnTN K3 6185 K8NUCarlOH K3 7976 AD5IJ Howard OR KX3 5178QRP W7NMD Palmer AR K3 3779 WB9JNZ EricIL K3 4017 KB9AVO PaulIN K3 7880 K1NWBrian RI K3 4974 K7BRR BillAZ K3 5545 W5TTF Charlie TX K3 4016 VE7EAR Al BC KX3 3158 N4WCQ RickKY K3 8160 K8DJC Nelson OH K3 560 W4RKS Jim TX K3 3618 KN5LJohnTX KX3 1658 QRP N8OQJim VA K3 6534 W2PYMikeAZ KX3 3484 QRP W7JJL JohnWA KX3 993 N5ZMEarlAR K3 3223 NK7ZDaveOR K3 8172 KA6GMA GlenCA K3 7522 W7OXPhilCA K3 8004 N0NBNateKS K3 4762 W2RWA DickNY K3 2603 KG1GEM Tim TX KX3 5969 AB7CE Roy MT KX3 115 QRP K6BFBernCA K3 4608 K4STN BillGA KX3 4330 W9JCJoe K2UTBob NJ K3 8017 NS7PPhilOR K3 1826 73, Phil, NS7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?
I’m having *HUGE* fun building the KX3 which I received yesterday. BUT… I’m now scratching my head on page 20 of the assembly manual. This page shows various views of the bottom cover and the need to remove the paint masks, as I’ve already done for the top cover. The small leftmost illustration (immediately above “Figure 25” on the page) indicates that there should be a small mask on the left end (as viewed in the illustration) corresponding to a much larger mask on the right end. On my bottom cover, this isn’t there. I’ve removed all the other masks - inside and out - but there is no mask to remove in the indicated position. And because there’s no mask, there’s paint where there should be bare metal. On the basis that a picture is worth a thousand words, my bottom cover inside end looks like this: http://www.gloddaeth.com/1.jpg instead of looking like this: http://www.gloddaeth.com/2.jpg So my question is: does it matter, or do I need to start sanding this area. As far as I can tell, there’s only a battery holder in this position in the completed rig, but I’d like to know one way or the other. Thanks, Dave GW0LUA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tx audio coming through speaker
Hi, Yes, definitely coming from the K3 I have not got anything connected at all apart from the antenna. Graham Sent from Samsung Mobile div Original message /divdivFrom: Vic Rosenthal K2VCO k2vco@gmail.com /divdivDate:30/04/2014 19:42 (GMT+00:00) /divdivTo: elecraft@mailman.qth.net /divdivSubject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tx audio coming through speaker /divdiv /divAre you sure it is coming from the K3 speaker and not from speakers on a computer that is connected to the K3 line out output? On 4/30/2014 8:55 AM, Graham Pemberton G7NEH wrote: Hi all, After working perfectly for awhile my K3 has developed the following problem, when I key the mike and transmit in SSB mode the audo is coming through the speaker while i’m transmitting, I have not got monitor turned on and this happens wether using the internal speaker or headphones. I’m hoping this is just caused by me altering a parameter in the menu’s that I shouldn’t have done. Thank you in advance for your help Regards Graham G7NEH K3/100 #8095 -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to grahampemberton...@btinternet.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?
Dave, Look at that area very carefully using a light held at an oblique angle. The masking tape may be there, but completely covered with paint. If it is not there, scrape with a knife and then sand a little. That paint is tough and it will take a while to sand through it. Sanding is OK, but scraping with the blade of a knife is much easier and faster. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/30/2014 3:44 PM, Dave Jewell wrote: I’m having *HUGE* fun building the KX3 which I received yesterday. BUT… I’m now scratching my head on page 20 of the assembly manual. This page shows various views of the bottom cover and the need to remove the paint masks, as I’ve already done for the top cover. The small leftmost illustration (immediately above “Figure 25” on the page) indicates that there should be a small mask on the left end (as viewed in the illustration) corresponding to a much larger mask on the right end. On my bottom cover, this isn’t there. I’ve removed all the other masks - inside and out - but there is no mask to remove in the indicated position. And because there’s no mask, there’s paint where there should be bare metal. __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tx audio coming through speaker
Graham, Turn on TX TEST mode and see if that condition is still present. If it is, double check the MON setting to be certain you did not inadvertently change it while trying to adjust the power level or compression. If it is gone with TX TEST, next try it while transmitting into a dummy load. If it is still gone with the dummy load, I would suggest you look to see what has changed in your antenna system because at that point I would suspect some type of RF feedback. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/30/2014 3:51 PM, Graham Pemberton wrote: Hi, Yes, definitely coming from the K3 I have not got anything connected at all apart from the antenna. Graham __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
TV radio jargon also has it as six two and even, over and out (Dick Tracy maybe?) K3GGN ~~~ On 4/30/2014 12:10 PM, Kevin wrote: The made up radio jargon which bothers me the most is over and out. Which do you mean: over or out? They mean very different things and CANNOT be used simultaneously. However, few TV writers have any experience at comms. 73, Kevin. KD5ONS On 4/30/2014 9:58 AM, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft wrote: I eight years as a flier in the Air Force during the Vietnam era and 15 years as private, instrument rated pilot I do not recall ever hearing Copy That on the radio. We were trained to use Niner for Nine because it was easier to be sure what you heard in a series of numbers. It is really important whether you meant Niner thousand or Five thousand feet. The only time I recall hearing Copy That was in the inane commercial where two actors were conversing with a series of Copy Thats. I have heard things like Copy Niner Thousand. To repeat a controllers instruction when it is very important to get it correctly. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k3...@wi.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tx audio coming through speaker
Yes, definitely coming from the K3 You say audio...but is it really audio, as in demodulated sideband? Or, is it undemodulated single sideband you are hearing? Big difference. If undemodulated, then it is likely a change in your grounding or something else that has affected the RF levels showing up in your mic or line inputs, or even your speaker system. Gary __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Keyboards revisited
Hi John: You might want to take a look at he products from Genovation http://www.genovation.com/ They have a number of terminals in various sizes which can be had in USB and RS-232 formats, which might do the job. IIRC, they come with software which will permit you to create your own macros for any application. The RS-232 can be connected directly to a K3/KX3, so it can be used -without- an attached computer. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 On Apr 30, 2014, at 2:51 PM, John Lawrence via Elecraft wrote: Function keys continue to be a big big deal for contesting and I too am an OT stuck on the side cluster muscle memory. Does anyone know where we could get a USB stand alone cluster of function keys that could be placed along side the regular or laptop keyboard? Or, maybe ASCII programmable 12 F key cluster? John, W1QS Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to raysil...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
The phrase Over and Out was a key part of the brief training lessons for the young female scientist near the beginning of the movie Them!. She was being taught proper protocol of using the radio while searching for giant ants in a helicopter. K7PEH On Apr 30, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Dean Jeutter k3...@wi.rr.com wrote: TV radio jargon also has it as six two and even, over and out (Dick Tracy maybe?) K3GGN ~~~ On 4/30/2014 12:10 PM, Kevin wrote: The made up radio jargon which bothers me the most is over and out. Which do you mean: over or out? They mean very different things and CANNOT be used simultaneously. However, few TV writers have any experience at comms. 73, Kevin. KD5ONS On 4/30/2014 9:58 AM, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft wrote: I eight years as a flier in the Air Force during the Vietnam era and 15 years as private, instrument rated pilot I do not recall ever hearing Copy That on the radio. We were trained to use Niner for Nine because it was easier to be sure what you heard in a series of numbers. It is really important whether you meant Niner thousand or Five thousand feet. The only time I recall hearing Copy That was in the inane commercial where two actors were conversing with a series of Copy Thats. I have heard things like Copy Niner Thousand. To repeat a controllers instruction when it is very important to get it correctly. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k3...@wi.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
I think we should all keep this in mind in case we encounter giant ants while operating. Possibly on Field Day? On 4/30/2014 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: The phrase Over and Out was a key part of the brief training lessons for the young female scientist near the beginning of the movie Them!. She was being taught proper protocol of using the radio while searching for giant ants in a helicopter. K7PEH -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?
I've found that the neatest way to do this is to use a motor tool (in the US it's a 'Dremel tool') with a conical grinding cylinder. On 4/30/2014 12:57 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Dave, Look at that area very carefully using a light held at an oblique angle. The masking tape may be there, but completely covered with paint. If it is not there, scrape with a knife and then sand a little. That paint is tough and it will take a while to sand through it. Sanding is OK, but scraping with the blade of a knife is much easier and faster. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/30/2014 3:44 PM, Dave Jewell wrote: I’m having *HUGE* fun building the KX3 which I received yesterday. BUT… I’m now scratching my head on page 20 of the assembly manual. This page shows various views of the bottom cover and the need to remove the paint masks, as I’ve already done for the top cover. The small leftmost illustration (immediately above “Figure 25” on the page) indicates that there should be a small mask on the left end (as viewed in the illustration) corresponding to a much larger mask on the right end. On my bottom cover, this isn’t there. I’ve removed all the other masks - inside and out - but there is no mask to remove in the indicated position. And because there’s no mask, there’s paint where there should be bare metal. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Keyboards revisited
Some of the models from Genovation are RS-232 That means you should be able to hook them directly to the Ks (may require an adapter to get the pins correct) From: Ray Sills raysil...@verizon.net To: John Lawrence j123...@aol.com Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Keyboards revisited Hi John: You might want to take a look at he products from Genovation http://www.genovation.com/ They have a number of terminals in various sizes which can be had in USB and RS-232 formats, which might do the job. IIRC, they come with software which will permit you to create your own macros for any application. The RS-232 can be connected directly to a K3/KX3, so it can be used -without- an attached computer. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 On Apr 30, 2014, at 2:51 PM, John Lawrence via Elecraft wrote: Function keys continue to be a big big deal for contesting and I too am an OT stuck on the side cluster muscle memory. Does anyone know where we could get a USB stand alone cluster of function keys that could be placed along side the regular or laptop keyboard? Or, maybe ASCII programmable 12 F key cluster? John, W1QS Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to raysil...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?
If I recall correctly when I built my K2 I had to sand off a spot. I masked off the area with aluminum tape then used the small wire wheel brush on a Dremel tool From: Vic Rosenthal K2VCO k2vco@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand? I've found that the neatest way to do this is to use a motor tool (in the US it's a 'Dremel tool') with a conical grinding cylinder. On 4/30/2014 12:57 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Dave, Look at that area very carefully using a light held at an oblique angle. The masking tape may be there, but completely covered with paint. If it is not there, scrape with a knife and then sand a little. That paint is tough and it will take a while to sand through it. Sanding is OK, but scraping with the blade of a knife is much easier and faster. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/30/2014 3:44 PM, Dave Jewell wrote: I’m having *HUGE* fun building the KX3 which I received yesterday. BUT… I’m now scratching my head on page 20 of the assembly manual. This page shows various views of the bottom cover and the need to remove the paint masks, as I’ve already done for the top cover. The small leftmost illustration (immediately above “Figure 25” on the page) indicates that there should be a small mask on the left end (as viewed in the illustration) corresponding to a much larger mask on the right end. On my bottom cover, this isn’t there. I’ve removed all the other masks - inside and out - but there is no mask to remove in the indicated position. And because there’s no mask, there’s paint where there should be bare metal. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
On 4/30/2014 5:30 PM, Vic Rosenthal K2VCO wrote: I think we should all keep this in mind in case we encounter giant ants while operating. Possibly on Field Day? You guys use a helicopter for field day? Cool! ;) 73, Ross N4RP On 4/30/2014 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: The phrase Over and Out was a key part of the brief training lessons for the young female scientist near the beginning of the movie Them!. She was being taught proper protocol of using the radio while searching for giant ants in a helicopter. K7PEH -- FCC Section 97.313(a) “At all times, an amateur station must use the minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications.” __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?
Thanks Don. Definitely no mask there - only metal + paint! :-) I’ve got poor distance vision, but I can focus down to about two inches from my face. (Good for building models!) Even if I couldn’t see the mask, I’d be able to feel it. I agree that scraping with a knife (or a Dremel) is a lot quicker than sanding. 73, Dave GW0LUA On 30 Apr 2014, at 20:57, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Dave, Look at that area very carefully using a light held at an oblique angle. The masking tape may be there, but completely covered with paint. If it is not there, scrape with a knife and then sand a little. That paint is tough and it will take a while to sand through it. Sanding is OK, but scraping with the blade of a knife is much easier and faster. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/30/2014 3:44 PM, Dave Jewell wrote: I’m having *HUGE* fun building the KX3 which I received yesterday. BUT… I’m now scratching my head on page 20 of the assembly manual. This page shows various views of the bottom cover and the need to remove the paint masks, as I’ve already done for the top cover. The small leftmost illustration (immediately above “Figure 25” on the page) indicates that there should be a small mask on the left end (as viewed in the illustration) corresponding to a much larger mask on the right end. On my bottom cover, this isn’t there. I’ve removed all the other masks - inside and out - but there is no mask to remove in the indicated position. And because there’s no mask, there’s paint where there should be bare metal. __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?
Well, since a painted surface doesn't make a good electrical connection, I would assume that the removal is done for this reason. The same is true of the W2 wattmeter kit. Nor sure why Elecraft didn't specify to the fabricator that this area on both kits should not be painted. I bought a Dremel tool kit, only to discover that we had one already. :-) 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 4/30/2014 2:26 PM, Vic Rosenthal K2VCO wrote: I've found that the neatest way to do this is to use a motor tool (in the US it's a 'Dremel tool') with a conical grinding cylinder. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 Macros
It surely would be nice if there was a dedicated spot to list K3 macros on the Elecraft reflector. Roy W4WFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT Them
The tunnel where the ants nest was in the movie was about 2 mi from where I grew up. They were storm drains into the Los Angeles River, we used to play in them. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 4/30/2014 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: The phrase Over and Out was a key part of the brief training lessons for the young female scientist near the beginning of the movie Them!. She was being taught proper protocol of using the radio while searching for giant ants in a helicopter. K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?
My KX3 is about 2 months old and no such issues; no scraping, filing nor dremeling required. Probably a one-off issue, or a single batch. Phil w7ox On 4/30/14, 3:09 PM, Jim Lowman wrote: Well, since a painted surface doesn't make a good electrical connection, I would assume that the removal is done for this reason. The same is true of the W2 wattmeter kit. Nor sure why Elecraft didn't specify to the fabricator that this area on both kits should not be painted. I bought a Dremel tool kit, only to discover that we had one already. :-) 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 4/30/2014 2:26 PM, Vic Rosenthal K2VCO wrote: I've found that the neatest way to do this is to use a motor tool (in the US it's a 'Dremel tool') with a conical grinding cylinder. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
On 4/30/2014 11:43 AM, Chester Alderman wrote: The International Q signal for QRQ is Shall I send faster? and does not mention any specific speed. Technically, the answer form of QRQ is QRQ nn where nn is a desired speed in WPM. All this QRQ stuff has me curious now. At what sending speed would I want to engage QRQ mode on my K3? I think I'd have to give up RIT/XIT, and I think there was something else too. I never use XIT but I do use RIT when I'm CQ'ing. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org PS: Casual contester. I did win JIDX for W6 once, however I was also next to last. :-) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT Them
Lucky They didn't get you, Fred. That's a movie I enjoy watching from time-to-time. Phil w7ox (born in Hollywood and now in Torrance after growing up in the NW) On 4/30/14, 3:42 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: The tunnel where the ants nest was in the movie was about 2 mi from where I grew up. They were storm drains into the Los Angeles River, we used to play in them. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 4/30/2014 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: The phrase Over and Out was a key part of the brief training lessons for the young female scientist near the beginning of the movie Them!. She was being taught proper protocol of using the radio while searching for giant ants in a helicopter. K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT Them
I love that movie! It will always be one of my favorite Cold War era scifis. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
Fred, I think the answer to your question of when to turn it on has a personal perception element to it. We have heard from some who leave it turned on all the time, and some others have volunteered that it improves the keying above 35 wpm while others have said above 30. As I recall, QRQ mode is now automatically turned off if you use SPLIT/RIT/XIT - if that does not happen for you, update the firmware. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/30/2014 6:46 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: On 4/30/2014 11:43 AM, Chester Alderman wrote: The International Q signal for QRQ is Shall I send faster? and does not mention any specific speed. Technically, the answer form of QRQ is QRQ nn where nn is a desired speed in WPM. All this QRQ stuff has me curious now. At what sending speed would I want to engage QRQ mode on my K3? I think I'd have to give up RIT/XIT, and I think there was something else too. I never use XIT but I do use RIT when I'm CQ'ing. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Heil GM4 to K3
I just picked up a Heil goldline GM-4 mic and it has an XLR connector with 4 pins. I've been trying to find what the pins represent and as much as I've been able to figure pin 4 =PTT and pin 3 = shield/ground. I can't figure out what pin 2 and pin 1 go to, one of them has to be mic, it's not an electret mic so it does not need power. Below are the pin values for the K3 1 Mic audio, low-Z (~600 ohms) 2 PTT 3 DOWN button * 4 UP button * 5 FUNCTION button * 6 8V (10 mA max) 7, 8 Ground Anyone know what 1 2 on the mic connect to? 73, Gary KA1J --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
On 4/30/2014 12:10 PM, Kevin wrote: The made up radio jargon which bothers me the most is over and out. Which do you mean: over or out? They mean very different things and CANNOT be used simultaneously. They certainly can. Over means turning it back to you for your reply. Out means No further transmissions from me. In ham jargon it's Back to you for your final and I'm clear. Over and out. 73 de K2ASP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Heil GM4 to K3
Check the Heil web site. Should have diagram of mic end. Just match it up with K3 diagram. Or just get the Kenwood cable from. Heil. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill On Apr 30, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com wrote: I just picked up a Heil goldline GM-4 mic and it has an XLR connector with 4 pins. I've been trying to find what the pins represent and as much as I've been able to figure pin 4 =PTT and pin 3 = shield/ground. I can't figure out what pin 2 and pin 1 go to, one of them has to be mic, it's not an electret mic so it does not need power. Below are the pin values for the K3 1 Mic audio, low-Z (~600 ohms) 2 PTT 3 DOWN button * 4 UP button * 5 FUNCTION button * 6 8V (10 mA max) 7, 8 Ground Anyone know what 1 2 on the mic connect to? 73, Gary KA1J --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
Agreed, this is correct usage. It is shorthand for OVER to you and OUT after your transmission, which saves another transmission just for ID, out. You might hear this at a busy harbor, where control is working with many commercial ships and the operators are comfortable with it. It allows control to move on to the next vessel. I would not use this on an amateur radio net without a training session that established this bit of advance proword usage. Over, wunder K6WRU On Apr 30, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Phil Kane k2...@kanafi.org wrote: On 4/30/2014 12:10 PM, Kevin wrote: The made up radio jargon which bothers me the most is over and out. Which do you mean: over or out? They mean very different things and CANNOT be used simultaneously. They certainly can. Over means turning it back to you for your reply. Out means No further transmissions from me. In ham jargon it's Back to you for your final and I'm clear. Over and out. 73 de K2ASP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Heil GM4 to K3
the Heil 4 pin XLR uses pins 3 and 4 for PTT , pin 2 for the Mic, and pin 1 is shield/ground. according to: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html On Apr 30, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com wrote: I just picked up a Heil goldline GM-4 mic and it has an XLR connector with 4 pins. I've been trying to find what the pins represent and as much as I've been able to figure pin 4 =PTT and pin 3 = shield/ground. I can't figure out what pin 2 and pin 1 go to, one of them has to be mic, it's not an electret mic so it does not need power. Below are the pin values for the K3 1 Mic audio, low-Z (~600 ohms) 2 PTT 3 DOWN button * 4 UP button * 5 FUNCTION button * 6 8V (10 mA max) 7, 8 Ground Anyone know what 1 2 on the mic connect to? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
During a MARS net the NCS says out to a check in when they are done talking to that check in . Then they immediately continue with the next QNI. Out means they are done talking to that person only and for that instant only. It does not mean that check in is allowed to leave the net. Over means back to the other person for continued comms. If you used over and out during a military net no one would understand which you mean. Kevin. KD5ONS/NNN0JWI On 4/30/2014 5:01 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: Agreed, this is correct usage. It is shorthand for OVER to you and OUT after your transmission, which saves another transmission just for ID, out. You might hear this at a busy harbor, where control is working with many commercial ships and the operators are comfortable with it. It allows control to move on to the next vessel. I would not use this on an amateur radio net without a training session that established this bit of advance proword usage. Over, wunder K6WRU On Apr 30, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Phil Kane k2...@kanafi.org wrote: On 4/30/2014 12:10 PM, Kevin wrote: The made up radio jargon which bothers me the most is over and out. Which do you mean: over or out? They mean very different things and CANNOT be used simultaneously. They certainly can. Over means turning it back to you for your reply. Out means No further transmissions from me. In ham jargon it's Back to you for your final and I'm clear. Over and out. 73 de K2ASP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kev...@coho.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
On 4/30/2014 6:35 AM, Barry wrote: Regarding the anti-contesters, to each their own. What grates on my nerves is hearing the newer hams start every transmission on 2m FM with Copy that, the VHF version of please copy... :-) In traffic handling, even on VHF, Please copy still means please copy... Copy that as a preamble in a conversation came to us via CB, and it's really the phone equivalent of R in CW meaning I have copied and understood what you sent. -- -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
Can we drop the contest bashing? This is not the forum for it anyway. Besides, per the list owner, WA6HHQ from only yesterday: In general, please do not argue on the Elecraft list pro/con about various emission modes like ESSB, CW vs no-code, QRP vs QRO, Contesting etc and their appropriateness to amateur radio. This list is not a forum for amateur radio policy. Also, impolite discussion is in direct violation of the list guidelines. On 4/30/2014 11:18 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: I have to fully agree, personally I have never seen the point of contesting, it all seems pretty pointless. In nearly every contest, I see the same thing contesters with little regard for other Amateurs. I like to run JT65 and SSTV and on on the CW and RTTY contest the JT65 Frequencies are Full with CW or RTTY and on the SSB contest the SSTV frequencies are full SSB voice contesters. And the typical response from contesters are Use the WARC Bands. I guess some must have a need to do something to make themselves feel special. From: AG0N-3055 mcduf...@ag0n.net To: Kevin Stover kevin.sto...@mediacombb.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 06:49:18 -0500, Kevin Stover wrote: Maybe if the big contest guns did the same we wouldn't have the visceral anti-contest attitudes displayed, and get more people involved. You're talking to one of the anti crowd. It has nothing to do with speed. It has to do with the fact that most of us don't like the chaos of contests, and the fact that for some reason, people seem to think there needs to be some sort of contest every damned weekend. Boy do I relish the old days where there were less than a hand full of contests a year. The two main ones were Field Day and Sweepstakes. If you were into DX, there was the annual DX contest. Contests were something SPECIAL those days, and even I took part in them. They were fun because they were special. These days, there's nothing special at all about them. You can't even get a meaningful signal report now. Your 5NN, but would you repeat because you're too weak to copy. They are just another boring noisy weekend when you can't enjoy the bands. Gary -- 73, Gary K9GS Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com CW Ops #1032 http://www.cwops.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Contest QRM
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:16:18 -0700, Jim Brown wrote: Contests always avoid the WARC bands, and most contests are a single mode -- CW or SSB or RTTY -- leaving lots of space for those who don't enjoy them. That's not bad, unless it is the weekend for your favorite mode, OR the other mode spills out of its normal area of the band and takes over everything in sight. That happens all the time. And I don't care what you or anyone else says, I know and regularly hear, people just pile into areas of the band where there is other activity, regular nets, etc. Contest organizers should designate a portion of the band where they will accept valid contacts, and disallow the rest. I know, just my opinion, but I assure you, I'm not alone. This whole thing is off topic for the list anyway. Gary -- Web: http://ag0n.net NodeOp Page: http://ag0n.net/irlp Node 3055: http://ag0n.net/irlp/3055 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT Them
I saw Them when I was 12 at a matinee at Camp Stoneman where my dad was stationed during the Korean War. Scariest movie I had ever seen. I rented it from Netflix a couple years ago just for fun. When I first heard the sounds of the ants, the hair on the back of my neck stood on end. I almost shut the damn DVD off right there. That movie did some damage to 12 year olds in the 50s. Eric KE6US On 4/30/2014 3:29 PM, James Doty wrote: I love that movie! It will always be one of my favorite Cold War era scifis. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to eric_c...@hotmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 with Two Meter Module, Heat Buildup, Possible FW Change?
When running the K3 on two meters It gets fairly hot fairly quick since it only uses the side of the case as a heatsink. I noticed that the K3 Remained warm for some time. When I went Back to HF and the fans for the PA came on the K3 cooled down fairly quickly and has remained cool. This makes me think that a FW change that would either run the fans whenever the K3 transmits on two meters or reads the temp of the front panel to turn the fans on. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-with-Two-Meter-Module-Heat-Buildup-Possible-FW-Change-tp7588248.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
Here is my source for over and out procedures as well as definitions of same. http://www.navymars.org/ntp8/NTP%208%20D%20Final.pdf Page 7-1 is the beginning of the radiotelephone procedures. My initial comment about over and out was describing military procedure not whatever flavor of the day the amateur community is using. While training ECOM students for ARES I used this manual as well as the ARECC material. Then my students went out into the world and did whatever they felt like. Being a teacher is often like the poor snail climbing the side of a well. Two steps forward Kevin. KD5ONS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?
When running JT65 the K3 rolls off on the low end of the audio. This tends to reduce the output power when trying to work a station on the low end of the waterfall. Is there a way to open up the low end to get a little better Response on the low end? -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Anyway-to-get-better-Low-Frequency-Audio-response-out-of-the-K3-tp7588250.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K2] VCO Not Oscillating
Matt, My reason for asserting that the VCO is not oscillating is two-fold. One, there is no frequency at TP1 when I touch it with the probe, but there is when I touch TP2 and TP3. Both of these test points show a correct oscillation of 4.9MHz and 12.09MHz respectively. Second, when I applied my voltmeter to R30 and tried turn the slug for L30 there was no change in the voltage at R30. I will recheck both of these assertions. I looked over my notes for Q17 and realized that I had them mis-labeled when I wrote the first email in this chain. Looking at the notes I have with me the labeling is S: 0V, G: 7.14V, and D: 0.08V. I will of course check these again when I go back to work on the radio as well as the part types, though I'm fairly certain they are correct. I'm taking the night off though. Also, I did check U3 and U4 over several times and recall them being in the correct orientation. Will look again here as well. The action plan for tomorrow is to double check all components in the VCO for correct value and orientation and then to re-heat the solder joints on them. Hopefully it will be something simple and stupid like a misplaced part or a cold joint. Thanks, Joseph -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-VCO-Not-Oscillating-tp7588086p7588251.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?
Not at present. You might try tuning a little lower in dial frequency, say 100 or 200 Hz, to shift the signals in the waterfall to correspondingly higher pitches. Of course, if the waterfall is full end-to-end, then you'll experience some roll-off at the high end. 73, Lyle KK7P When running JT65 the K3 rolls off on the low end of the audio. This tends to reduce the output power when trying to work a station on the low end of the waterfall. Is there a way to open up the low end to get a little better Response on the low end? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K2 IMA board
I apologize for having delayed so long with distribution of the blank PCB's for the K2 IMA board project. Unfortunately the ravages of age have taken a tole upon this mortal body resulting in several hospitalizations recently. I have been in communication with Doug Shields W4DAS who had expressed interest in taking over the PCB project. He indicated he has the facilities to produce assembled boards, not just blank PCB's. This will be an improvement as the board used almost all surface mount components which are difficult to see, let alone solder. Thanks to those who ordered and paid for the blank boards for your patience. 73 Thanks, Tom Taylor KG7CFC -- A few observations and much reasoning lead to error; many observation and a little reasoning to truth. - Alexis Carrel ^^ --... ...-- / -.- --. --... -.-. ..-. -.-. Tom Taylor KG7CFC openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default, KDE 4.11.2, AMD Phenom X4 955, GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Nvidia 325.15) 16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD FF 27.0, claws-mail 3.9.2 registered linux user 263467 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?
Thank you I was thinking that may be the answer, at least until I start doing more JT9 JT65 combined From: Lyle Johnson kk7p4...@gmail.com To: Harry_Yingst hlyin...@yahoo.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3? Not at present. You might try tuning a little lower in dial frequency, say 100 or 200 Hz, to shift the signals in the waterfall to correspondingly higher pitches. Of course, if the waterfall is full end-to-end, then you'll experience some roll-off at the high end. 73, Lyle KK7P When running JT65 the K3 rolls off on the low end of the audio. This tends to reduce the output power when trying to work a station on the low end of the waterfall. Is there a way to open up the low end to get a little better Response on the low end? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?
Harry, What filter are you using ? It's my understanding that it's wider with a AM (6 K Hz) or FM (13 K Hz) filter. at least I home so. I bought a AM filter and my K3 hasn't arrived yet. Larry -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Anyway-to-get-better-Low-Frequency-Audio-response-out-of-the-K3-tp7588250p7588255.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW
Speaking of jargon, my pet peeve: using 73’s or 88’s instead of 73 or 88. On Apr 30, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote: The phrase Over and Out was a key part of the brief training lessons for the young female scientist near the beginning of the movie Them!. She was being taught proper protocol of using the radio while searching for giant ants in a helicopter. K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K2] MAB -- was K2 IMA board
In the past hour Tom Taylor (KG7CFC) posted ... I apologize for having delayed so long with distribution of the blank PCB's for the K2 IMA board project. --- - - - --- Please note that the K2 project Tom is referring to is KW4M's MAB (Miscellaneous Accessory Board) and not the IMA (Internal Mic Adaptor). 73, Gary KI4GGX Webmaster: http://www.unpcbs.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?
I's a limitation in the K3 itself even using the FM filter it still rolls off the bottom end From: Larry Lopez lawlop...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3? Harry, What filter are you using ? It's my understanding that it's wider with a AM (6 K Hz) or FM (13 K Hz) filter. at least I home so. I bought a AM filter and my K3 hasn't arrived yet. Larry -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Anyway-to-get-better-Low-Frequency-Audio-response-out-of-the-K3-tp7588250p7588255.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?
how about at the top end ? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Bottom Cover - To Sand or not To Sand?
On 4/30/2014 3:44 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: My KX3 is about 2 months old and no such issues; no scraping, filing nor dremeling required. Probably a one-off issue, or a single batch. There are several spots where it is critical that the chassis make contact with either other half of the chassis or to the circuit board, or to connectors mounted to the chassis. Of course we must remove mask if it is there, but if the fabricator/painter goofed and forgot the tape at a location, it IS important to sand or scrape away the paint. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Them
Them! is available (Them! are available?) for download for free at https://archive.org/details/PhantasmagoriaTheater-Them1954176 A favorite from my youth as well. Worth watching when 10's dead. Ted, KN1CBR -- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:42:13 -0700 From: Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT Them Message-ID: 53617c45.7010...@foothill.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed The tunnel where the ants nest was in the movie was about 2 mi from where I grew up. They were storm drains into the Los Angeles River, we used to play in them. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 4/30/2014 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: The phrase Over and Out was a key part of the brief training lessons for the young female scientist near the beginning of the movie Them!. She was being taught proper protocol of using the radio while searching for giant ants in a helicopter. K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?
The low end response does not matter if you use Joe Taylor's WSJT-X in split frequency mode. WSJT-X automatically shifts the transmit frequency so the audio tones are always in the 1500 - 2000 Hz range for optimum transmit performance and harmonic rejection. It's time other software authors learned that lesson as well - there would be a lot less garbage on the air. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 4/30/2014 9:34 PM, Harry_Yingst via Elecraft wrote: When running JT65 the K3 rolls off on the low end of the audio. This tends to reduce the output power when trying to work a station on the low end of the waterfall. Is there a way to open up the low end to get a little better Response on the low end? -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Anyway-to-get-better-Low-Frequency-Audio-response-out-of-the-K3-tp7588250.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K2] VCO Not Oscillating
Ok, that makes more sense now, although we now have the Drain of Q17 at 0.08V connected to the Source of Q18 at 6.64V via the primary (green) winding of T5. I would hazzard a guess that there is also a clerical error with the Q18 voltages, and that the Source is at 0.08V, same as the Drain of Q17, the Gate of Q18 is at 0V, and the Source of Q18 is at 6.67V. The alternative would be that the T5 primary winding is open circuit, but then the other voltages wouldn't make sense. There is minimal ALC voltage on Q17 Drain, so this supports your conclusion that the VCO is not oscillating, although it could also be that either Q16 or the U3 buffer is not working. An RF probe to pin 3 of the U3 buffer will tell you if there is any signal there. You might check that all the variactor diodes are in the right way (D21-D26) and the right type (D21 D22 are 1SV149, D23 D24 are MV209) and that L30 is ok (no red line, large adjustment slot). You could perhaps try changing bands to toggle the K13/K14/K15 relays to isolate the associated components and see if the VCO starts oscillating. As you say, if any joints look suspect, reflowing them is not a bad idea. Good luck, let us know how you go. 73, Matt VK2RQ The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...' -- Isaac Asimov On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Joseph Baxley via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: Matt, My reason for asserting that the VCO is not oscillating is two-fold. One, there is no frequency at TP1 when I touch it with the probe, but there is when I touch TP2 and TP3. Both of these test points show a correct oscillation of 4.9MHz and 12.09MHz respectively. Second, when I applied my voltmeter to R30 and tried turn the slug for L30 there was no change in the voltage at R30. I will recheck both of these assertions. I looked over my notes for Q17 and realized that I had them mis-labeled when I wrote the first email in this chain. Looking at the notes I have with me the labeling is S: 0V, G: 7.14V, and D: 0.08V. I will of course check these again when I go back to work on the radio as well as the part types, though I'm fairly certain they are correct. I'm taking the night off though. Also, I did check U3 and U4 over several times and recall them being in the correct orientation. Will look again here as well. The action plan for tomorrow is to double check all components in the VCO for correct value and orientation and then to re-heat the solder joints on them. Hopefully it will be something simple and stupid like a misplaced part or a cold joint. Thanks, Joseph -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-VCO-Not-Oscillating-tp7588086p7588251.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3?
I have looked it and briefly tried it I may have to revisit it From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anyway to get better Low Frequency Audio response out of the K3? The low end response does not matter if you use Joe Taylor's WSJT-X in split frequency mode. WSJT-X automatically shifts the transmit frequency so the audio tones are always in the 1500 - 2000 Hz range for optimum transmit performance and harmonic rejection. It's time other software authors learned that lesson as well - there would be a lot less garbage on the air. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 4/30/2014 9:34 PM, Harry_Yingst via Elecraft wrote: When running JT65 the K3 rolls off on the low end of the audio. This tends to reduce the output power when trying to work a station on the low end of the waterfall. Is there a way to open up the low end to get a little better Response on the low end? -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Anyway-to-get-better-Low-Frequency-Audio-response-out-of-the-K3-tp7588250.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Contest QRM
On 4/30/2014 5:40 PM, AG0N-3055 wrote: That's not bad, unless it is the weekend for your favorite mode, OR the other mode spills out of its normal area of the band and takes over everything in sight. That happens all the time. And I don't care what you or anyone else says, I know and regularly hear, people just pile into areas of the band where there is other activity, regular nets, etc. Contest organizers should designate a portion of the band where they will accept valid contacts, and disallow the rest. Gary, The thing you seem to be missing is that the big contests attract several thousand participants, and propagation drives those participants into bands that are open. It is rare that more than three bands are open at the same time, and often there are only two. Indeed, during sunspot minimums, there's often only 20M during the day. With two bands available, that means that there are a thousand or more stations trying to fit into each sub-band,in addition to the 50-100 non-contesters who are active on that band. The 20M phone band is 200 kHz wide, and a very clean rig occupies about 3 kHz. That means there's room on 20M SSB for about 70 stations to call CQ, and for 83 on 15M SSB. Things are a lot better on CW and RTTY, where clean signals burn 300 Hz and dirty ones three times that. That means 500 stations can fit into 20M CW, nearly 700 into 15 CW. We all have the same right to use those frequencies, on a first come, first served basis. Contesters should not be chasing QSOs off a frequency, and those wanting to start a QSO must realize that if someone's there first, it's their frequency. But I will not QSY because someone 10 kHz down the band from me hears me on his el cheapo rig. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Them
I have DVDs of almost all of the great 1950s SciFi movies. I think my collection is about 20 DVDs. All the greats and some really stupid movies that they they too are classics such as Teenagers from Outer Space or I Married a Monster From Outer Space. Is this an Off Topic Topic? 73, phil, K7PEH On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Dauer, Edward eda...@law.du.edu wrote: Them! is available (Them! are available?) for download for free at https://archive.org/details/PhantasmagoriaTheater-Them1954176 A favorite from my youth as well. Worth watching when 10's dead. Ted, KN1CBR -- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:42:13 -0700 From: Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT Them Message-ID: 53617c45.7010...@foothill.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed The tunnel where the ants nest was in the movie was about 2 mi from where I grew up. They were storm drains into the Los Angeles River, we used to play in them. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 4/30/2014 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: The phrase Over and Out was a key part of the brief training lessons for the young female scientist near the beginning of the movie Them!. She was being taught proper protocol of using the radio while searching for giant ants in a helicopter. K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
