[Elecraft] k2 firmware update problems with ATU

2014-05-01 Thread Giuliano Carmignani


I have a K2 SN 670, so I bought the upgrade firmware (2.04r and Main, i 
/ o 1:09).

All work well but the ATU is not working.
The first test that fails is CALn, no data is displayed, only ATU is 
displayed.

AGAIN IF I INSERT THE OLD MAIN FIRMWARE ATU WORK WELL AGAIN.
Firmware of KAT2 is 1.03

Thanks for any help.
Giuliano I0CG
Italy
K1 SN1523
K2 SN670
K3 SN1814
P3 SN513
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Re: [Elecraft] Them and others

2014-05-01 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH

An off-topic comment about off-topic comments..

99% of the time, they're enjoyable.   However, if there's still the related 
off-topic posts going on for weeks afterwards, they're down right 
obnoxious !


Personally, I erase most of the stuff I type when I wait a few minutes 
before actually sending it.   After a while I realize I'm part of the 
problem and delete the comment.  If I feel that it is just too good NOT to 
send (Hah) I'll send it directly to one person, not the whole group.


73, Charlie k3ICH


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Commo rick.co...@frontier.com

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Them


Well, it may be OT; but it’s fun for this person who was 9 years old in 
1954, and his Mom took him to see his first sci-fi movie, which was Them”! 
I still remember parts of the movie.


-rick, K7LOG

On Apr 30, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote:


I have DVDs of almost all of the great 1950s SciFi movies.  I think my
collection is about 20 DVDs.  All the greats and some really stupid movies
that they they too are classics such as Teenagers from Outer Space or
I Married a Monster From Outer Space.

Is this an Off Topic Topic?

73, phil, K7PEH

On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Dauer, Edward eda...@law.du.edu wrote:



Them! is available (Them! are available?) for download for free at
https://archive.org/details/PhantasmagoriaTheater-Them1954176

A favorite from my youth as well.  Worth watching when 10's dead.

Ted, KN1CBR




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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:42:13 -0700
From: Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT Them
Message-ID: 53617c45.7010...@foothill.net
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The tunnel where the ants nest was in the movie was about 2 mi from
where I grew up.  They were storm drains into the Los Angeles River, we
used to play in them.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 4/30/2014 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

The phrase Over and Out was a key part of the brief training lessons
for the young female scientist near the beginning of the movie Them!.
She was being taught proper protocol of using the radio while searching
for
giant ants in a helicopter.

K7PEH






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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tx audio coming through speaker

2014-05-01 Thread Graham Pemberton G7NEH
Hi,

Many thanks to Don, Jim and others who took the time to answer my post, it was 
the MON setting that was causing the issue I must have inadvertently changed it 
as Don said below, now all working fine again.  I’m glad it was only finger 
trouble.

Once again many thanks for the help it was very much appreciated.

73 de Graham G7NEH

On 30 Apr 2014, at 21:07, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Graham,
 
 Turn on TX TEST mode and see if that condition is still present.
 If it is, double check the MON setting to be certain you did not 
 inadvertently change it while trying to adjust the power level or compression.
 
 If it is gone with TX TEST, next try it while transmitting into a dummy load.
 If it is still gone with the dummy load, I would suggest you look to see what 
 has changed in your antenna system because at that point I would suspect some 
 type of RF feedback.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 4/30/2014 3:51 PM, Graham Pemberton wrote:
 Hi,
 Yes, definitely coming from the K3 I have not got anything connected at all 
 apart from the antenna.
 
 Graham
 
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] k2 firmware update problems with ATU

2014-05-01 Thread Don Wilhelm

Giuliano,

Did you make the trace cut and add the wires to change the sidetone 
signal source?  The changes are shown in the KIO2 manual page 10 and 
also in the KPA100 manual page 59.


Check and double check those changes.  Especially the position of the 
wire and capacitor at Control Board P4.  The added wire and capacitor 
connects to pin 1 which is the pin closest to the upper corner of the 
control board.  If the wire is correct, be certain there is no solder 
bridge to P4 pin 2, which is the AUXBUS signal line.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/1/2014 7:06 AM, Giuliano Carmignani wrote:


I have a K2 SN 670, so I bought the upgrade firmware (2.04r and Main, 
i / o 1:09).

All work well but the ATU is not working.
The first test that fails is CALn, no data is displayed, only ATU is 
displayed.

AGAIN IF I INSERT THE OLD MAIN FIRMWARE ATU WORK WELL AGAIN.
Firmware of KAT2 is 1.03



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[Elecraft] K2 digital modes interface

2014-05-01 Thread Bill Noyce
I finally got around to writing up what I did to equip my loaded
K2/100 for digital modes.
This board is based on the design of EA3BLQ (SK), and fits between the
front-panel and control boards in the K2.

http://ab1av.us/K2digital/K2digital.html

  -- Bill, AB1AV
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft price increase coming in April.

2014-05-01 Thread W0FK
Have any price inreases gone into effect yet? It doesn't appear to me that
they have on the products I've looked at.

73,

Lou, W0FK


Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote
 Hi,
 
 This is an early notice for everyone that we will be increasing prices
 slightly 
 on our radios and other products before the end of next month (April).  As 
 always, any orders placed before that point will be honored at today's
 pricing.
 
 Please resist the urge to ask our sales or support staff for more
 specifics on 
 what prices are changing and the exact date for the changes, as they do
 not have 
 any additional information. We are still reviewing our complete product
 line to 
 determine where we need to change pricing, so I can't be more specific on
 which 
 specific products will increase in price, or by how much. (We've been
 absorbing 
 a lot of supplier cost increases over the past two years.)
 
 As always, we strive to keep these changes as small as possible, and to
 absorb 
 cost increases where ever possible.
 
 73,
 Eric
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[Elecraft] PAE-Kx31 Heatsink

2014-05-01 Thread Howard Hoyt

Hi all,

I apologize for this use of BW, but I am currently not able to post to 
the KX3 list.
If you are interested in, or have ordered this accessory for your KX3, 
please go to my website at:

http://www.proaudioeng.com/
I have updated news and delivery status announcements.
See you at Dayton!

Howie - WA4PSC

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[Elecraft] QRQ et al.

2014-05-01 Thread k...@juno.com

SNIP
They certainly can.  Over means turning it back to you for your
reply.  Out means No further transmissions from me.   In 
ham jargon
it's Back to you for your final and I'm clear.

Over and out.   73 de K2ASP
SNIP

I agree with K2ASP.  This was standard net protocol during my tour
with the Traveling Air Circus (Tactical Air Command..HI!) long, long ago.


CW QRQ:

Do a fair amount of contesting, almost all of it CW.

I do not understand what motivates folk to send a contest CQ at 40+ WPM.

This speed is well beyond my abillity and I suspect beyond the capabilities of 
most folks who do not have a decoder device so I move on to the next station.  
I've been assured by hard core contesters that this method is needed to keep 
the QSO rate up.

Seems counter-intuitive to me.

I have no trouble with those who use variable speed wherein their call and 
the changing bits of the contest exchange are sent at a slower speed. 


Copy that

I seem to recall this bit of jargon caught on right after the release of
the movie: Apollo 13.

72,

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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

2014-05-01 Thread Toby Pennington

AND those functions don't work if you have QRQ turned on.   Toby K4NH


On 4/30/2014 6:58 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Fred,

I think the answer to your question of when to turn it on has a 
personal perception element to it.
We have heard from some who leave it turned on all the time, and some 
others have volunteered that it improves the keying above 35 wpm while 
others have said above 30.


As I recall, QRQ mode is now automatically turned off if you use 
SPLIT/RIT/XIT - if that does not happen for you, update the firmware.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/30/2014 6:46 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

On 4/30/2014 11:43 AM, Chester Alderman wrote:
The International Q signal for QRQ is Shall I send faster? and 
does not

mention any specific speed.


Technically, the answer form of QRQ is QRQ nn where nn is a 
desired speed in WPM.


All this QRQ stuff has me curious now.  At what sending speed would I 
want to engage QRQ mode on my K3?  I think I'd have to give up 
RIT/XIT, and I think there was something else too.  I never use XIT 
but I do use RIT when I'm CQ'ing.




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[Elecraft] K3 Memory Management Program

2014-05-01 Thread Richard Solomon

Is there a Memory/Menu Management Program available for the K3 ?

Something like the one that HB9ZS makes for the Yaesu Radios.

Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memory Management Program

2014-05-01 Thread Matt Zilmer
Hi Dick,

Try
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/FreqMemEdit/K3_Freq_Mem_Editor.htm

This program can edit memories on the K3 _and_ on the KX3.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Thu, 01 May 2014 08:17:11 -0700, you wrote:

Is there a Memory/Menu Management Program available for the K3 ?

Something like the one that HB9ZS makes for the Yaesu Radios.

Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memory Management Program

2014-05-01 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 01 May 10:31 -0500, Matt Zilmer wrote:
 Hi Dick,
 
 Try
 http://www.elecraft.com/K3/FreqMemEdit/K3_Freq_Mem_Editor.htm

Unfortunately, it is Windows only requiring .NET be available.  As
Elecraft has not made the memory commands/protocol public, no other
option seems to be available.  So far as I know no one has reverse
engineered the protocol for reading and writing the memories and
released an independent program for doing so.

73, de Nate, N0NB 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Question about use of ESSB for Data Modes

2014-05-01 Thread David Box Comcast
Ran a couple of tests this morning and found that using ESSB only extends the 
transmit BW up to 3500Hz, so concurr that the ease of changing modes with DATA 
A far outweighs the slight change in BW and lots of buttons to push making sure 
EQ and comp etc are properly set if you don't use DATA A.

Don I think this just shows that Elecraft thought this through in setting up 
the basic ops.

73
Dave
K5MWR

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Question about use of ESSB for Data Modes
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Dave,

For several reasons I would advocate DATA A mode over SSB (or ESSB) for 
data modes.
First, most data mode signals are contained within the 300 to 3000 Hz 
range when the VFO is set at the 'recommended' data mode band frequency.
Secondly, it is easy to move the VFO knob to hear and decode signals 
that are operating at the extreme edges of that bandwidth.
Thirdly, using DATA A mode automatically turns off compression and TX 
EQ.  Those must be manually turned off when using SSB or ESSB.

All in all, my opinion is that DATA A is just more convenient to use 
than either SSB or ESSB for data modes.  While SSB will work just fine 
if the proper precautions are taken, DATA A mode makes it automatic. The 
VFO is easy to move to get to those stations operating on the extreme 
edges (or outside) the normal passband.

73,
Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

2014-05-01 Thread dave


Speaking of contesting and QRQ . . . one of the things I have wondered 
about is what is the correlation between contest score and CW speed? 
Has anyone ever noted speed and then compared to score?


There are obviously a lot of pitfalls to this - antenna, location, and 
op being the main ones. But I suspect that the winners do not 
regularly run high speed. Too much noise, too many ops who can't copy 
high speed, etc. And if you want the weak, rare mults to pull you out 
you need to be sure they can copy your dits as dits and not confuse 
them with noise bursts.


As for the chap who commented he routinely ran 40+ wpm, well, I guess 
he is one of those I regularly skip over when I'm working SP.


73 de dave
ab9ca/4

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[Elecraft] low end response

2014-05-01 Thread Larry Wassmann
The K3 will put out good clean audio from about 80Hz to a little over 4K. 
Transmit audio is just great. Receive audio is another story. 


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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

2014-05-01 Thread Jim Brown

On 5/1/2014 9:15 AM, dave wrote:
But I suspect that the winners do not regularly run high speed. 


N6TV won CW Sweepstakes this year using K3s at the W7RN super-station. 
Bob usually steams along at 30-34 WPM.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

2014-05-01 Thread Brian Alsop
I wonder where Dave got this idea from. I'd like to suggest it is 
wishful thinking.


The contest winners clearly are superior ops and will use whatever speed 
benefits them.  Likely higher speeds early in the contest and lower 
speeds later.  Not a fixed speed throughout.


I don't know why there is such an aversion to admitting that many people 
can copy more than 40 WPM.  There is no law of physics or biology 
preventing it.  After all people routinely talk and 300 WPM.  If one can 
decode those utterances at 300 WPM why not simple dot/dash CW at 40 WPM?


73 de Brian/K3KO

On 5/1/2014 16:22, Jim Brown wrote:

On 5/1/2014 9:15 AM, dave wrote:

But I suspect that the winners do not regularly run high speed.


N6TV won CW Sweepstakes this year using K3s at the W7RN super-station.
Bob usually steams along at 30-34 WPM.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft price increase coming in April.

2014-05-01 Thread David Pratt
I am sure that if you e-mail sa...@elecraft.com and remind them, they
will be pleased to oblige.

In a recent message, W0FK llader...@earthlink.net writes
Have any price inreases gone into effect yet? It doesn't appear to me that
they have on the products I've looked at.

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memory Management Program

2014-05-01 Thread David Cole
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On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 10:46 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
 * On 2014 01 May 10:31 -0500, Matt Zilmer wrote:
  Hi Dick,
  
  Try
  http://www.elecraft.com/K3/FreqMemEdit/K3_Freq_Mem_Editor.htm
 
 Unfortunately, it is Windows only requiring .NET be available.  As
 Elecraft has not made the memory commands/protocol public, no other
 option seems to be available.  So far as I know no one has reverse
 engineered the protocol for reading and writing the memories and
 released an independent program for doing so.
 
 73, de Nate, N0NB 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

2014-05-01 Thread Alan Bloom

On 05/01/2014 09:41 AM, Brian Alsop wrote:

I wonder where Dave got this idea from. I'd like to suggest it is
wishful thinking.



On 5/1/2014 16:22, Jim Brown wrote:

On 5/1/2014 9:15 AM, dave wrote:

But I suspect that the winners do not regularly run high speed.


I agree with Dave that it can be counterproductive to run high speed in 
a contest.  You lose too many contacts with stations who can't copy that 
fast.


I used to be able to copy 50 wpm pretty consistently in my head and I 
have a 40 wpm W1AW code proficiency certificate.  But it makes no sense 
to go that fast in a contest unless you are content to work only other 
QRQ stations.


I think around 30 wpm or so is reasonable.  Even operators who can't go 
quite that fast can probably get your callsign after listening for a 
minute.  Then when they call you at 18 or 20 wpm you can slow down to 
work them and then speed up again.


Years ago Chuck W1WPR, the chief op at W1AW, was listening to a QSO on 
40 meters where they were motoring along at 70 wpm or so (obviously 
using keyboards to send).  So Chuck recorded them on the reel-to-reel 
tape recorder and later played it back at half speed to see what they 
were saying.  He said that during the entire QSO neither one of them 
ever got the other station's call correct.  :=)


Alan N1AL
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

2014-05-01 Thread Phil Hystad
  He said that during the entire QSO neither one of them ever got the other 
 station's call correct.  :=)


Now, that made me laugh.

-phil, K7PEH



On May 1, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Alan Bloom n...@sonic.net wrote:

 On 05/01/2014 09:41 AM, Brian Alsop wrote:
 I wonder where Dave got this idea from. I'd like to suggest it is
 wishful thinking.
 
 On 5/1/2014 16:22, Jim Brown wrote:
 On 5/1/2014 9:15 AM, dave wrote:
 But I suspect that the winners do not regularly run high speed.
 
 I agree with Dave that it can be counterproductive to run high speed in a 
 contest.  You lose too many contacts with stations who can't copy that fast.
 
 I used to be able to copy 50 wpm pretty consistently in my head and I have a 
 40 wpm W1AW code proficiency certificate.  But it makes no sense to go that 
 fast in a contest unless you are content to work only other QRQ stations.
 
 I think around 30 wpm or so is reasonable.  Even operators who can't go quite 
 that fast can probably get your callsign after listening for a minute.  Then 
 when they call you at 18 or 20 wpm you can slow down to work them and then 
 speed up again.
 
 Years ago Chuck W1WPR, the chief op at W1AW, was listening to a QSO on 40 
 meters where they were motoring along at 70 wpm or so (obviously using 
 keyboards to send).  So Chuck recorded them on the reel-to-reel tape recorder 
 and later played it back at half speed to see what they were saying.  He said 
 that during the entire QSO neither one of them ever got the other station's 
 call correct.  :=)
 
 Alan N1AL
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Re: [Elecraft] Keyboards revisited

2014-05-01 Thread Doug Person via Elecraft

John,
I'm in the computer business and have been for 30 years.  I have never 
seen such a device.  However, using something like Arduino Leonardo 
http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoBoardLeonardo one could easily create 
such a thing using a common 3x4 keypad and a fairly small amount of 
code.  There are probably other ways to remap a keyboard.  There are 
numeric-only keyboards, but I don't know of any simple way to remap the 
keys to something else.


73, Doug -- K0DXV

On 4/30/2014 12:51 PM, John Lawrence via Elecraft wrote:

Function keys continue to be a big big deal for contesting and I too am an OT 
stuck on the side
cluster muscle memory.  Does anyone know where we could get a USB stand alone 
cluster
of function keys that could be placed along side the regular or laptop 
keyboard?  Or, maybe ASCII programmable 12 F key cluster?

John, W1QS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memory Management Program

2014-05-01 Thread Martin Kratoska

+1
I second all asking Elecraft software available for Linux!

73
Martin, OK1RR

Dne 1.5.2014 18:49, David Cole napsal(a):

Would be nice if ALL Elecraft programs were also available in Linux...



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memory Management Program

2014-05-01 Thread David Cole
Elecraft,
Please recompile everything for Debian...  :)
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On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 19:21 +0200, Martin Kratoska wrote:
 +1
 I second all asking Elecraft software available for Linux!
 
 73
 Martin, OK1RR
 
 Dne 1.5.2014 18:49, David Cole napsal(a):
  Would be nice if ALL Elecraft programs were also available in Linux...
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

2014-05-01 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

[End of Thread]

Folks - We are well past the max posting limit for a single topic. Let's end 
this thread now.


In general, if you see a huge number of posts on a topic, especially one that 
has drifted OT, do not post.  While we do closely limit posting topics, we'd 
like to see the majority of the posting traffic on the Elecraft list directly 
Elecraft related.


Remember that most readers of this list may not be interested in additional 
comments on a heavy traffic topic, and they are overloaded by the number of 
emails on it.


73,

Eric
(Your list moderator when I can get away from my day job.. )
elecraft.com

On 5/1/2014 10:10 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:

  He said that during the entire QSO neither one of them ever got the other 
station's call correct.  :=)


Now, that made me laugh.

-phil, K7PEH




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft price increase coming in April.

2014-05-01 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Hi Lou,

Correct, we're just finishing this up.

You have one more week to order at the current prices. We'll post the price 
changes to the order form on Thursday May 8th or Friday May 9th.


As noted before, please don't call or email our sales team asking what is 
changing etc. They will not have that data until we finalize everything next week.


73,

Eric
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On 5/1/2014 7:33 AM, W0FK wrote:

Have any price inreases gone into effect yet? It doesn't appear to me that
they have on the products I've looked at.

73,

Lou, W0FK


Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote

Hi,

This is an early notice for everyone that we will be increasing prices
slightly
on our radios and other products before the end of next month (April).  As
always, any orders placed before that point will be honored at today's
pricing.

Please resist the urge to ask our sales or support staff for more
specifics on
what prices are changing and the exact date for the changes, as they do
not have
any additional information. We are still reviewing our complete product
line to
determine where we need to change pricing, so I can't be more specific on
which
specific products will increase in price, or by how much. (We've been
absorbing
a lot of supplier cost increases over the past two years.)

As always, we strive to keep these changes as small as possible, and to
absorb
cost increases where ever possible.

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

2014-05-01 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
One edit to my post. We do not directly limit posting topics. (I left off the 
not in my original posting.)


I meant to type:
While we do not closely limit posting topics, we'd like to see the majority of 
the posting traffic on the Elecraft list directly Elecraft related.


(That is now corrected in the copy of my posting below.)

73
Eric
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On 5/1/2014 11:09 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

[End of Thread]

Folks - We are well past the max posting limit for a single topic. Let's end 
this thread now.


In general, if you see a huge number of posts on a topic, especially one that 
has drifted OT, do not post.


Remember that most readers of this list may not be interested in additional 
comments on a heavy traffic topic, and they are overloaded by the number of 
emails on it.


73,

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memory Management Program

2014-05-01 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
 David == David Cole d...@nk7z.net writes:


David Elecraft,
David Please recompile everything for Debian...  :)

as a matter of fact, all linux software available on Elecraft website
works perfectly well on Debian Wheezy at 64 bits EXCEPT the built-in
help for said software, which requires a library which is not
available. Not a big deal, since the help system is just html and you
can just point your browser to the directory and read it. 
But, in 2014, it would be nice if said software were compiled natively
for 64 bits. 
That said, I'm happy that at least one vendor acknowledges the existance
of linux users. I tend not to buy stuff that tells me which OS I should
have to use it. 

Pf


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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

2014-05-01 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH
Back when I worked at the old Microlog Corp in Gaithersburg MD in the late 
70's, we found that a lot of rigs couldn't be keyed much faster than about 
50 WPM.   Key click filtering etc., made mush of the faster CW.A keyed 
string of dots looked like the output of a half wave rectifier !   To get 
around this limitation, in order to run 100 WPM CW, we'd revert to AFSK 
keying, copying the Mark frequency only.worked like a proverbial charm. 
It was like having our own private encryption system as nothing but a 
computer assisted copy system could decipher it.We never really asked if 
it was legal though.


And, to my knowledge, there was and still is NOTHING out there as good as 
the decoding algorithms those programmers wrote.  (The main one just 
happened to be the president of the company.)   I  tested every piece of 
competitive equipment I could get my hands on to prove this point.  Microlog 
was the absolute king-of-the-hill for CW copy, hand sent, bug sent or 
otherwise.  In order to fool it, you had to purposely send rotten code.


73, Charlie k3ICH





 - Original Message - 
From: Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com

To: Alan Bloom n...@sonic.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW


 He said that during the entire QSO neither one of them ever got the 
other station's call correct.  :=)



Now, that made me laugh.

-phil, K7PEH



On May 1, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Alan Bloom n...@sonic.net wrote:


On 05/01/2014 09:41 AM, Brian Alsop wrote:

I wonder where Dave got this idea from. I'd like to suggest it is
wishful thinking.



On 5/1/2014 16:22, Jim Brown wrote:

On 5/1/2014 9:15 AM, dave wrote:

But I suspect that the winners do not regularly run high speed.


I agree with Dave that it can be counterproductive to run high speed in a 
contest.  You lose too many contacts with stations who can't copy that 
fast.


I used to be able to copy 50 wpm pretty consistently in my head and I 
have a 40 wpm W1AW code proficiency certificate.  But it makes no sense 
to go that fast in a contest unless you are content to work only other 
QRQ stations.


I think around 30 wpm or so is reasonable.  Even operators who can't go 
quite that fast can probably get your callsign after listening for a 
minute.  Then when they call you at 18 or 20 wpm you can slow down to 
work them and then speed up again.


Years ago Chuck W1WPR, the chief op at W1AW, was listening to a QSO on 40 
meters where they were motoring along at 70 wpm or so (obviously using 
keyboards to send).  So Chuck recorded them on the reel-to-reel tape 
recorder and later played it back at half speed to see what they were 
saying.  He said that during the entire QSO neither one of them ever got 
the other station's call correct.  :=)


Alan N1AL
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[Elecraft] KX3 For Sale

2014-05-01 Thread Ron Schwartz
The KX3 has been sold.  Thanks for all the interest.

Ron, K2RAS
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memory Management Program

2014-05-01 Thread David Sanders W4DES
This is in fact a deficiency in Debian.  Most of the required libs can be 
installed in a multi-arch configuration where the 32-bit libraries go into a 
separate directory from the 64-bit libraries.  However the gtkhtml package 
among others does not yet conform to this standard.  The 32-bit libraries 
therefore cannot coexist on the same system as the 64-bit libraries.  On Fedora 
this problem is not there and you can install compat-gtkhtml314.i686 and the 
Elecraft utilities will display their help.

There are two possible solutions on Debian systems.  The Debian project can fix 
their libraries or Elecraft can make available a version of their utilities 
compiled for 64 bits.  It may take a long time for debian to correct their 
libraries so I would suggest Elecraft take the time to compile their utilities 
for 64 bits as an alternate download.

73, David W4DES




On May 1, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Pierfrancesco Caci p...@tippete.net wrote:
 
 as a matter of fact, all linux software available on Elecraft website
 works perfectly well on Debian Wheezy at 64 bits EXCEPT the built-in
 help for said software, which requires a library which is not
 available. Not a big deal, since the help system is just html and you
 can just point your browser to the directory and read it. 
 But, in 2014, it would be nice if said software were compiled natively
 for 64 bits. 
 That said, I'm happy that at least one vendor acknowledges the existance
 of linux users. I tend not to buy stuff that tells me which OS I should
 have to use it. 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memory Management Program

2014-05-01 Thread David Cole
Just for the record...  It would have been a show stopper for me if the
K3 software was only Windows...  Now that I have had a chance to play
with the rig a bit more, I still might have bought it, but I really do
thank Elecraft for supporting Debian and the other forms of Linux.  
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On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 18:06 -0400, David Sanders W4DES wrote:
 This is in fact a deficiency in Debian.  Most of the required libs can be 
 installed in a multi-arch configuration where the 32-bit libraries go into a 
 separate directory from the 64-bit libraries.  However the gtkhtml package 
 among others does not yet conform to this standard.  The 32-bit libraries 
 therefore cannot coexist on the same system as the 64-bit libraries.  On 
 Fedora this problem is not there and you can install compat-gtkhtml314.i686 
 and the Elecraft utilities will display their help.
 
 There are two possible solutions on Debian systems.  The Debian project can 
 fix their libraries or Elecraft can make available a version of their 
 utilities compiled for 64 bits.  It may take a long time for debian to 
 correct their libraries so I would suggest Elecraft take the time to compile 
 their utilities for 64 bits as an alternate download.
 
 73, David W4DES
 
 
 
 
 On May 1, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Pierfrancesco Caci p...@tippete.net wrote:
  
  as a matter of fact, all linux software available on Elecraft website
  works perfectly well on Debian Wheezy at 64 bits EXCEPT the built-in
  help for said software, which requires a library which is not
  available. Not a big deal, since the help system is just html and you
  can just point your browser to the directory and read it. 
  But, in 2014, it would be nice if said software were compiled natively
  for 64 bits. 
  That said, I'm happy that at least one vendor acknowledges the existance
  of linux users. I tend not to buy stuff that tells me which OS I should
  have to use it. 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memory Management Program

2014-05-01 Thread Jim Brown

On 5/1/2014 3:17 PM, David Cole wrote:

It would have been a show stopper for me if the
K3 software was only Windows...  Now that I have had a chance to play
with the rig a bit more, I still might have bought it, but I really do
thank Elecraft for supporting Debian and the other forms of Linux.


How could you expect any less from a company located at the edge of 
Silicon Valley (and with loads of work-at-home Silicon Valley folks in 
their backyard)?


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memory Management Program

2014-05-01 Thread David Cole
Hi Jim,

it is just surprising to find a company that is actually responsible,
has good support folks, sells a really good product, AND supports
Linux!  :)
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On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 15:56 -0700, Jim Brown wrote:
 On 5/1/2014 3:17 PM, David Cole wrote:
  It would have been a show stopper for me if the
  K3 software was only Windows...  Now that I have had a chance to play
  with the rig a bit more, I still might have bought it, but I really do
  thank Elecraft for supporting Debian and the other forms of Linux.
 
 How could you expect any less from a company located at the edge of 
 Silicon Valley (and with loads of work-at-home Silicon Valley folks in 
 their backyard)?
 
 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] OT Them

2014-05-01 Thread Bill Turner

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:  (may be snipped)

On 4/30/2014 5:47 PM, EricJ wrote:
I saw Them when I was 12 at a matinee at Camp Stoneman where my dad 
was stationed during the Korean War. Scariest movie I had ever seen. I 
rented it from Netflix a couple years ago just for fun. When I first 
heard the sounds of the ants, the hair on the back of my neck stood on 
end. I almost shut the damn DVD off right there. That movie did some 
damage to 12 year olds in the 50s.


Eric
KE6US 


REPLY:

same thing here. I thought I was the only one. :-)

73, Bill W6WRT

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Re: [Elecraft] Them

2014-05-01 Thread Bill Turner

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:  (may be snipped)

On 4/30/2014 10:06 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

The first Sci Fy movie I remember seeing was The Forbidden Planet at the 
Studio Theater on First Street in San Jose, California -- it was probably 1956 and I was 
9 years old.  My oldest sister who was 15 years old at the time took me and my other 
sister who was 11.

phil, K7PEH


REPLY:

The other sci-fi movie that scared the heck out of me was Five. I can 
still remember the skeleton staring out of the bus. I rented it recently 
from Netflix and it seems pretty tame now.


73, Bill W6WRT

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Re: [Elecraft] Them

2014-05-01 Thread KQ8M
My Parents would watch Outer Limits and I hide behind my mother a lot. It 
scared the heck out of me. Then when I was a teenager I
would watch the B movies on Friday and Saturday nights and Saturday afternoons.

73,
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[Elecraft] K3: Linux and HRD not on speaking terms

2014-05-01 Thread Bill W2BLC
Gotta luv the K-Line, but I just cannot make the change to Linux due to 
the lack of a K3 rig control program that will operate under Linux. I 
have been playing with various distros and have pretty much settled on 
Linux Mint 13 Maya. It does everything I routinely need except: It will 
not run HRD under Wine.


I get the program to load, however I cannot get Wine to recognize the 
USB port serial converter. Linux says it is there - Wine knows nothing 
of it. Hence, HRD has no means to communicate with the K3. Has anyone 
found a way to run HRD (old version only used for rig control) under 
Wine on Linux? I have not gone to the dark side of virtual anything and 
would prefer not to.


It may be that I will set up the K3 on its own dedicated Winners 
computer and the desk computer for everything else on Linux. Easier, but 
where's the challenge?


Suggestions or direction would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Bill K-Line


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Linux and HRD not on speaking terms

2014-05-01 Thread Troy,w6hv
I'm having the same problem. One big drawback for me is that I am very new 
to Linux. I tried N4PY's Pegasus Plus. When attempting to set up the com 
port, it said every port was already in use???

Troy (also, K-line)

-Original Message- 
From: Bill W2BLC

Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 4:47 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Linux and HRD not on speaking terms

Gotta luv the K-Line, but I just cannot make the change to Linux due to
the lack of a K3 rig control program that will operate under Linux. I
have been playing with various distros and have pretty much settled on
Linux Mint 13 Maya. It does everything I routinely need except: It will
not run HRD under Wine.

I get the program to load, however I cannot get Wine to recognize the
USB port serial converter. Linux says it is there - Wine knows nothing
of it. Hence, HRD has no means to communicate with the K3. Has anyone
found a way to run HRD (old version only used for rig control) under
Wine on Linux? I have not gone to the dark side of virtual anything and
would prefer not to.

It may be that I will set up the K3 on its own dedicated Winners
computer and the desk computer for everything else on Linux. Easier, but
where's the challenge?

Suggestions or direction would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Bill K-Line


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Linux and HRD not on speaking terms

2014-05-01 Thread Martin Kratoska

Try CQRlog
http://www.cqrlog.com/

TR log linux port
http://www.kkn.net/trlinux/

here is a list of Linux software
http://radio.linux.org.au/

lot of them supports radio control, hamlib must be installed.

73 Martin, OK1RR


Dne 2.5.2014 01:47, Bill W2BLC napsal(a):

Gotta luv the K-Line, but I just cannot make the change to Linux due to
the lack of a K3 rig control program that will operate under Linux. I
have been playing with various distros and have pretty much settled on
Linux Mint 13 Maya. It does everything I routinely need except: It will
not run HRD under Wine.

I get the program to load, however I cannot get Wine to recognize the
USB port serial converter. Linux says it is there - Wine knows nothing
of it. Hence, HRD has no means to communicate with the K3. Has anyone
found a way to run HRD (old version only used for rig control) under
Wine on Linux? I have not gone to the dark side of virtual anything and
would prefer not to.

It may be that I will set up the K3 on its own dedicated Winners
computer and the desk computer for everything else on Linux. Easier, but
where's the challenge?

Suggestions or direction would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Bill K-Line


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[Elecraft] Function Keyboard Revisited

2014-05-01 Thread John Lawrence via Elecraft

Thanks for all the ideas


First, I gather there is some confusion as to my application intent. My inquiry
was to add a stand alone device to allow the function key ascii codes to
come in via an additional keyboard on a computer.  And, it was to work with the 
computer logging programs directly must like the standard computer keyboard but 
be more user friendly with the function key macros by placing it off to the 
side of the main board.  Back in the early days of computer logging with CT on 
DOS there were keyboards with the function keys in a cluster off to the side 
thus avoiding the need to reach up beyond normal touch keyboard range to access 
function keys and in some cases also press Fn to reach F7 through F12.  By 
having a programmable cluster with 12 keys set as ascii keys for F1 thru F12, 
it would be easier to work with them at high run rates.  That's all.


I haven't had time to investigate the alternatives offered to me but I will.  
When I come up with the
best answer it will be presented on here.  Again a 12 key cluster with USB to 
run with the logging program is the goal...I did not intend to interface 
directly with the K3.




John, W1QS
 




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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

2014-05-01 Thread Chuck Smallhouse


I'm by no means a QRQ CW operator, mainly I use CW for weak signal or 
EME QSOs.  I was barely able to successfully copy 20 WPM, to upgrade 
to Extra Class.  I attribute this to not having good CW capabilities 
when first licensed 67 years ago, but after many, many, high 
concentration, very weak, CW EME QSOs have improved my abilities.


Normal weak signal and EME speeds generally are about 13-15 WPM and 
during contest often extend to 18-20 WPM.  These seems to be good 
compromises for between the maximum speed that EME signals can be 
decoded, and what most, not so experienced, CW operators are 
comfortable with.


When HF signals reach  30 WPM I generally can only copy call signs 
after two or three repeats, This fact highly discourages me from 
participating in HF CW contests.


My biggest pet peeve is for HF CW operators to immigrate up to 6M CW, 
and bring their egocentric, extra high speed, show off CW, and 
questionable QSO, abilities with them.Many good DX QSOs are often 
lost or missed in these 35-45 WPM  exhibitions.


Yes, there are V/UHF operators that are using 6M, and would like to 
make an effort to improve their lacking CW skills.  Please give them a break !


Chuck,  W7CS

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Re: [Elecraft] Function Keyboard Revisited

2014-05-01 Thread Don Wilhelm

John,

If your intent is to have the keyboard function through some 
application, then the feasibility of your solution depends on the 
capability of the application, and that may have nothing to do with the 
K3 capability.


The K3 has many capabilities available through applications that connect 
to it.  Almost any function of the K3 front panel can be accomplished in 
one way or another through programming (see the K3 Programmer's Reference).


To use ASCII codes from the keyboard directly would require significant 
changes to the K3 firmware to recognize those ASCII characters.  I do 
not think that is going to happen.
Refer to the K3 Programmers Reference to see what can be accomplished 
and the data stream that is required to produce the desired results.


In other words, the functions are available to do most everything that 
can be done from the front panel, but it takes a bit of processing to 
send the correct commands to the K3.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/1/2014 8:33 PM, John Lawrence via Elecraft wrote:

Thanks for all the ideas


First, I gather there is some confusion as to my application intent. My inquiry
was to add a stand alone device to allow the function key ascii codes to
come in via an additional keyboard on a computer.  And, it was to work with the 
computer logging programs directly must like the standard computer keyboard but 
be more user friendly with the function key macros by placing it off to the 
side of the main board.  Back in the early days of computer logging with CT on 
DOS there were keyboards with the function keys in a cluster off to the side 
thus avoiding the need to reach up beyond normal touch keyboard range to access 
function keys and in some cases also press Fn to reach F7 through F12.  By 
having a programmable cluster with 12 keys set as ascii keys for F1 thru F12, 
it would be easier to work with them at high run rates.  That's all.


I haven't had time to investigate the alternatives offered to me but I will.  
When I come up with the
best answer it will be presented on here.  Again a 12 key cluster with USB to 
run with the logging program is the goal...I did not intend to interface 
directly with the K3.



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[Elecraft] (no subject)

2014-05-01 Thread Richard W Hemingway
Hello everyone,

I am a newbe and am selling my Kenwood TS 590s to buy a K3.  I am wondering how 
many of  us have had a 590 and come to a K3 and why?  Thanks

DIck N5XRD
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Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

2014-05-01 Thread Bill W2BLC
The 590 is a good solid radio, however the K3 offers more user dexterity 
and the optional P3 display. The overall amount of technical and 
operational variables/selections via the K3 menus allows you to have 
your own custom designed radio suited to your exact needs and desires.


Bill K-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

2014-05-01 Thread Matt VK2RQ
K3 also offers dual receiver  diversity reception, more filter options -- I 
would say generally the K3 is more configurable (which of course comes at a 
price) :-)

73, Matt VK2RQ

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 The 590 is a good solid radio, however the K3 offers more user dexterity and 
 the optional P3 display. The overall amount of technical and operational 
 variables/selections via the K3 menus allows you to have your own custom 
 designed radio suited to your exact needs and desires.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Linux and HRD not on speaking terms

2014-05-01 Thread Nate Bargmann
I have waited a long time for Wine to support serial ports.  I have
given up.  IMO, Wine is intended for office suites and games and little
else.  Although Morse Runner works well with Wine.

If your hardware is up to it, running Windows XP in a Virtual Box
virtual machine may be an option for using HRD.  I have never used HRD
and am well satisfied with CQRlog for my logging duties these days.

73, de Nate, N0NB 

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possible worlds.  The pessimist fears this is true.

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Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

2014-05-01 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett

For the $$$ the 590 is a pretty good radio.

The K3 gives you much more flexibility today or down the road.

Mike W0MU

On 5/1/2014 7:53 PM, Matt VK2RQ wrote:

K3 also offers dual receiver  diversity reception, more filter options -- I 
would say generally the K3 is more configurable (which of course comes at a price) 
:-)

73, Matt VK2RQ


On 2 May 2014, at 11:41 am, Bill W2BLC w2...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

The 590 is a good solid radio, however the K3 offers more user dexterity and 
the optional P3 display. The overall amount of technical and operational 
variables/selections via the K3 menus allows you to have your own custom 
designed radio suited to your exact needs and desires.

Bill K-Line
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[Elecraft] KX3 - SteppIR

2014-05-01 Thread George Rebong
Can I connect my KX3 to the SteppIR controller? My controller is old and 
supports Yaesu, ICOM and Kenwood only. 


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[Elecraft] KX3 FOR SALE

2014-05-01 Thread lane zeitler via Elecraft
Bought just a few months ago. S/N 6032. Paid $1538 shipped to me in Japan. I 
have the KX3, KXAT3 auto tuner, KXBC3 battery charger, MH3 hand mic, the KXPD3 
paddles, and the Fred Cady KX3 book. I also have eight Sanyo Eneloop 2700 maH 
NIMH batteries in the unit and have a second spare set (unopened) of the same 
batteries that are included.

I want a simpler radio such as the Argonaut VI so will sell this whole package 
for $1100 shipped. There is nothing wrong with it at allI just do not care 
for all the endless bells and whistles. 

US Postal Money Order only. I will ship to you via USPS Priority. I am 
stationed here in Japan and will only ship via US Postal Service.

LCDR Lane Zeitler
Forward Deployed
US Naval Hospital
Yokosuka Japan
Ku7i, JH1JCM
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Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

2014-05-01 Thread Phil Wheeler
Added to the earlier replies: Elecraft is the best 
company around for support. If there's a problem 
it gets fixed. Moreover, they continually upgrade 
their products with new firmeare updates -- which 
are free to download and install from your computer.


My first Elecraft product, the K2, arrived in mid 
1999 -- 15 years ago. After that and every other 
transceiver they've designed and produced I have 
only good things to say. I'm loving my K3.


73, Phil w7ox

On 5/1/14, 6:32 PM, Richard W Hemingway wrote:

Hello everyone,

I am a newbe and am selling my Kenwood TS 590s to buy a K3.  I am wondering how 
many of  us have had a 590 and come to a K3 and why?  Thanks

DIck N5XRD



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[Elecraft] KPA500 not responding to K3

2014-05-01 Thread Ben Collins-Sussman
Hello friends,

I've been using my tiny KX3 with a KPA500 and KAT500 for many months now.
 The KX3 only puts out 12 watts, but the KPA500 translates it successfully
into about 200W.  The KPA500 and KAT500 have been connected via the
official DB15 cable sold by Elecraft, and the KX3 triggers the amp via RCA
cable into the amp's PA-key connector.

Fast-forward to today:  I just received a K3, and I'm really excited to see
the K3, KPA500, and KAT500 all just work together magically.  Except
they're not.

I've connected everything exactly as shown in the KAT500 manual:

   - K3's ACC port is connected to the tuner's XCVR port, via the official
   KPAK3AUX cable.
   - The tuner's AMP port is connected to the amp's AUX port, via the
   official E850463 cable.

I'm definitely able to use the K3 and tuner together when the amp is off.
 But when I turn on the amp, there appears to be no communication between
amp and K3.

   - The amp doesn't notice when I change bands on the K3.
   - The amp won't let me change bands at all, even when I push its band
   buttons!
   - When I put the amp into OPER and transmit 15 or 20W from the K3, the
   amp doesn't appear to key and amplify.  It just shows the exact 20W as
   passing through (on it's 'power' display.)

I've verified that the amp's RADIO option is set to 'K3'.

Does anyone have any ideas?

73 de Ben NN9S
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 not responding to K3

2014-05-01 Thread Phil Wheeler
This will be on the reflector, Ben. I often hit 
Reply vs. Reply list!


Your description sounds like what is spec'ed in 
the KAT500 and how I have mine set up.


But the KPA/KAT500 are pretty new to me. Others 
will be more helpful.


I wonder if there are any menu settings in the K3 
which need changed?


73, Phil w7ox

On 5/1/14, 9:24 PM, Ben Collins-Sussman wrote:
Yes indeed, the KX3 and all associated cables 
are far away.


I also doubled-checked that the new K3 has the 
absolute latest firmware (4.38).  The KPA500 is 
running 1.23.



On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Phil Wheeler 
w...@socal.rr.com mailto:w...@socal.rr.com 
wrote:


Is the KX3 totally disconnected from the Amp?

Phil w7ox

On 5/1/14, 9:11 PM, Ben Collins-Sussman wrote:

Hello friends,

I've been using my tiny KX3 with a KPA500 and KAT500 for many months now.
  The KX3 only puts out 12 watts, but the KPA500 translates it successfully
into about 200W.  The KPA500 and KAT500 have been connected via the
official DB15 cable sold by Elecraft, and the KX3 triggers the amp via RCA
cable into the amp's PA-key connector.

Fast-forward to today:  I just received a K3, and I'm really excited to see
the K3, KPA500, and KAT500 all just work together magically.  Except
they're not.

I've connected everything exactly as shown in the KAT500 manual:

- K3's ACC port is connected to the tuner's XCVR port, via the official
KPAK3AUX cable.
- The tuner's AMP port is connected to the amp's AUX port, via the
official E850463 cable.

I'm definitely able to use the K3 and tuner together when the amp is off.
  But when I turn on the amp, there appears to be no communication between
amp and K3.

- The amp doesn't notice when I change bands on the K3.
- The amp won't let me change bands at all, even when I push its band
buttons!
- When I put the amp into OPER and transmit 15 or 20W from the K3, the
amp doesn't appear to key and amplify.  It just shows the exact 20W as
passing through (on it's 'power' display.)

I've verified that the amp's RADIO option is set to 'K3'.

Does anyone have any ideas?

73 de Ben NN9S




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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 not responding to K3

2014-05-01 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Go download the latest beta versions of the firmware and the associated 
utility programs.


Have you set the baud rate in the K3 to that of the amp?

When the amp is moved from standby to Operate you should see a message 
in the K3 that says KPA500.


You can set the K3 output with the amp and without.

I would check the firmware.  I know there is a special button you push 
on the KAT500 that optimizes operation with the KPA500.


Mike W0MU

On 5/1/2014 10:11 PM, Ben Collins-Sussman wrote:

Hello friends,

I've been using my tiny KX3 with a KPA500 and KAT500 for many months now.
  The KX3 only puts out 12 watts, but the KPA500 translates it successfully
into about 200W.  The KPA500 and KAT500 have been connected via the
official DB15 cable sold by Elecraft, and the KX3 triggers the amp via RCA
cable into the amp's PA-key connector.

Fast-forward to today:  I just received a K3, and I'm really excited to see
the K3, KPA500, and KAT500 all just work together magically.  Except
they're not.

I've connected everything exactly as shown in the KAT500 manual:

- K3's ACC port is connected to the tuner's XCVR port, via the official
KPAK3AUX cable.
- The tuner's AMP port is connected to the amp's AUX port, via the
official E850463 cable.

I'm definitely able to use the K3 and tuner together when the amp is off.
  But when I turn on the amp, there appears to be no communication between
amp and K3.

- The amp doesn't notice when I change bands on the K3.
- The amp won't let me change bands at all, even when I push its band
buttons!
- When I put the amp into OPER and transmit 15 or 20W from the K3, the
amp doesn't appear to key and amplify.  It just shows the exact 20W as
passing through (on it's 'power' display.)

I've verified that the amp's RADIO option is set to 'K3'.

Does anyone have any ideas?

73 de Ben NN9S
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 not responding to K3

2014-05-01 Thread Ben Collins-Sussman
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:32 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett w...@w0mu.com wrote:

 Go download the latest beta versions of the firmware and the associated
 utility programs.


The K3 is new and has the latest official 4.38 firmware.  The KPA500 is
about a year old and running firmware 1.23.
I don't have a usb-serial cable yet, though I can grab one tomorrow at the
store;  is there a specific bug fixed in some beta firmware release?



 Have you set the baud rate in the K3 to that of the amp?


I see nothing in either manual about the K3 or amp having configurable baud
rates to communicate with each other.  Do you have details?



 When the amp is moved from standby to Operate you should see a message in
 the K3 that says KPA500.


I see nothing at all.  This is a 3rd example, I suppose, of the total lack
of communication between K3 and KPA500.
Again, keep in mind that the K3 isn't *directly* connected to the KPA500.
 They're actually both connected to the KAT500 tuner, as the diagrams
specify.




 I would check the firmware.  I know there is a special button you push on
 the KAT500 that optimizes operation with the KPA500.


I see nothing about this in the KAT500 manual, but will look again.
The connection between tuner and amp has always worked; I haven't touched
that special DB15 cable at all.  However, perhaps the new DB15 cable that
arrived with the K3 is physically defective?  I'm digging for hypotheses.
 :-)
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[Elecraft] KX3 Chasing local HF noise sources

2014-05-01 Thread Niel Skousen
Good Evening All,   

Questions and Advice sought,  i will report back on results...
(cross posted to qrp-l, elecraft, and kx3)

I live in a rural area, which should be very low noise.   i put up a OCFD 
(88:44) this afternoon, and tonite wandered on to 80m to listen and check the 
antenna.   I had 20db over noise everywhere.   40m was showing S4 noise, and I 
could only copy about 4 or 5 stations above the noise on 40m (yep, NR and NB 
both on, 400hz wide).

nearest neighbor is 1/4mi away, and I'm the last one on a rural overhead power 
line.

So,  Given a KX3 and internal batteries, my first thought is to build a small 
multi-turn electrostatically shielded loop (1ft dia, 3-5 turn in a copper pipe, 
1 gap at top) and see if I can localize any local noise sources.

my office and computers are prime targets of course...

Is this overkill ?  
Recommendations for a better small / near-field noise pickup ?
Any other advice for first steps ?
Anyone else chased noise sources with their KX3 ?   How did it work, what 
antenna did you use ?
Other suggestions / recommendations ?

TIA, 73
Niel
WA7SSA
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - SteppIR

2014-05-01 Thread Val

Kenwood should do the job.

73, Val LZ1VB


Can I connect my KX3 to the SteppIR controller? My controller is old 
and supports Yaesu, ICOM and Kenwood only.




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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 not responding to K3

2014-05-01 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Ben Collins-Sussman
suss...@red-bean.com wrote:
 Hello friends,

 I've been using my tiny KX3 with a KPA500 and KAT500 for many months now.
  The KX3 only puts out 12 watts, but the KPA500 translates it successfully
 into about 200W.  The KPA500 and KAT500 have been connected via the
 official DB15 cable sold by Elecraft, and the KX3 triggers the amp via RCA
 cable into the amp's PA-key connector.

 Fast-forward to today:  I just received a K3, and I'm really excited to see
 the K3, KPA500, and KAT500 all just work together magically.  Except
 they're not.

 I've connected everything exactly as shown in the KAT500 manual:

- K3's ACC port is connected to the tuner's XCVR port, via the official
KPAK3AUX cable.
- The tuner's AMP port is connected to the amp's AUX port, via the
official E850463 cable.

 I'm definitely able to use the K3 and tuner together when the amp is off.
  But when I turn on the amp, there appears to be no communication between
 amp and K3.

- The amp doesn't notice when I change bands on the K3.
- The amp won't let me change bands at all, even when I push its band
buttons!
- When I put the amp into OPER and transmit 15 or 20W from the K3, the
amp doesn't appear to key and amplify.  It just shows the exact 20W as
passing through (on it's 'power' display.)

 I've verified that the amp's RADIO option is set to 'K3'.

 Does anyone have any ideas?

What happens if you connect the K3 directly to the KPA500 (i.e. remove
the KAT500 from the picture, temporarily) ? If they still don't
cooperate, try the other cable

73,

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 not responding to K3

2014-05-01 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I just got a KAT500 a couple of weeks ago and was talking with Eric.  
The Beta's which might have been released to live by now had many 
changes that would make the the three device all get along much better.


I am pretty sure you need to set the baud rate on the KPA500 and the K3 
to the same rate.  Ie 38400.


You will need to get the usb-serial cable to do the updates.

The KAT 500 acts as a type of Y or WYE for the 15 pin cable.

You should have got a the pc interface cable with the KAT500.
Download the current utility and then download version 1.67

Under configuration you should see a big button that says Optimize for 
KPA-500.


Push it!

I was told to put 1500  in the maximum watts box.

save it and see what happens.

The KPA 500 should switch to the right band on rf.  It is strange that 
it will not amplify.


 On 5/1/2014 10:43 PM, Ben Collins-Sussman wrote:
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:32 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett w...@w0mu.com 
mailto:w...@w0mu.com wrote:


Go download the latest beta versions of the firmware and the
associated utility programs.


The K3 is new and has the latest official 4.38 firmware.  The KPA500 
is about a year old and running firmware 1.23.
I don't have a usb-serial cable yet, though I can grab one tomorrow at 
the store;  is there a specific bug fixed in some beta firmware release?



Have you set the baud rate in the K3 to that of the amp?


I see nothing in either manual about the K3 or amp having configurable 
baud rates to communicate with each other.  Do you have details?



When the amp is moved from standby to Operate you should see a
message in the K3 that says KPA500.


I see nothing at all.  This is a 3rd example, I suppose, of the total 
lack of communication between K3 and KPA500.
Again, keep in mind that the K3 isn't /directly/ connected to the 
KPA500.  They're actually both connected to the KAT500 tuner, as the 
diagrams specify.



I would check the firmware.  I know there is a special button you
push on the KAT500 that optimizes operation with the KPA500.


I see nothing about this in the KAT500 manual, but will look again.
The connection between tuner and amp has always worked; I haven't 
touched that special DB15 cable at all.  However, perhaps the new DB15 
cable that arrived with the K3 is physically defective?  I'm digging 
for hypotheses.  :-)




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Chasing local HF noise sources

2014-05-01 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Run the KX3 on battery and turn off your house mains and see if the 
noise goes away.  If not you know to start looking elsewhere.  You might 
also try the RFI reflector.


Mike W0MU

On 5/1/2014 10:47 PM, Niel Skousen wrote:

Good Evening All,

Questions and Advice sought,  i will report back on results...
(cross posted to qrp-l, elecraft, and kx3)

I live in a rural area, which should be very low noise.   i put up a OCFD 
(88:44) this afternoon, and tonite wandered on to 80m to listen and check the 
antenna.   I had 20db over noise everywhere.   40m was showing S4 noise, and I 
could only copy about 4 or 5 stations above the noise on 40m (yep, NR and NB 
both on, 400hz wide).

nearest neighbor is 1/4mi away, and I'm the last one on a rural overhead power 
line.

So,  Given a KX3 and internal batteries, my first thought is to build a small 
multi-turn electrostatically shielded loop (1ft dia, 3-5 turn in a copper pipe, 
1 gap at top) and see if I can localize any local noise sources.

my office and computers are prime targets of course...

Is this overkill ?
Recommendations for a better small / near-field noise pickup ?
Any other advice for first steps ?
Anyone else chased noise sources with their KX3 ?   How did it work, what 
antenna did you use ?
Other suggestions / recommendations ?

TIA, 73
Niel
WA7SSA
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Chasing local HF noise sources

2014-05-01 Thread Jim Brown

On 5/1/2014 9:47 PM, Niel Skousen wrote:

Other suggestions / recommendations


Hi Niel,

First, dump the off-center-fed dipole -- it's inherently noisy. Put up 
some resonant dipoles (or even fan dipoles) and put a ferrite common 
mode choke at the feedpoint of each dipole. Study k9yc.com/RFI-Ham.pdf  
for lots of detailed advice on RFI issues, and how to wind common mode 
chokes.


73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] KX3 is sold

2014-05-01 Thread lane zeitler via Elecraft
KX3 is sold, thanks.

Lane
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 not responding to K3

2014-05-01 Thread Ben Collins-Sussman
Folks, the K3 has two serial ports:  a standard RS232 for talking to a
computer, and an 'ACC' port for talking to the amp.  Same situation with
the KPA500:  an RS232, and an AUX port.

On both devices, the speed of the RS232 port is changeable.  But those
ports aren't being used at all!  The ACC on the radio is connecting to the
AUX on the amp.  And those are not configurable ports.

Just upgraded the KAT500 from firmware 1.41 to the latest 1.67, as
recommended by W0MU.  Saw the optimize for kpa500 button and did the
deed.  (All it seemed to do was automatically put 1500 in the max-watts
box.)   Regardless, it didn't seem to fix anything.  Still no communication
at all between radio and amp, with tuner as the middleman.

I'll try N6ML's test next, which is a great idea -- just connect the K3
directly to the amp, leaving the tuner out...



On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:03 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett w...@w0mu.com wrote:

  I just got a KAT500 a couple of weeks ago and was talking with Eric.
 The Beta's which might have been released to live by now had many changes
 that would make the the three device all get along much better.

 I am pretty sure you need to set the baud rate on the KPA500 and the K3 to
 the same rate.  Ie 38400.

 You will need to get the usb-serial cable to do the updates.

 The KAT 500 acts as a type of Y or WYE for the 15 pin cable.

 You should have got a the pc interface cable with the KAT500.
 Download the current utility and then download version 1.67

 Under configuration you should see a big button that says Optimize for
 KPA-500.

 Push it!

 I was told to put 1500  in the maximum watts box.

 save it and see what happens.

 The KPA 500 should switch to the right band on rf.  It is strange that it
 will not amplify.


  On 5/1/2014 10:43 PM, Ben Collins-Sussman wrote:

  On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:32 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett w...@w0mu.comwrote:

 Go download the latest beta versions of the firmware and the associated
 utility programs.


  The K3 is new and has the latest official 4.38 firmware.  The KPA500 is
 about a year old and running firmware 1.23.
 I don't have a usb-serial cable yet, though I can grab one tomorrow at the
 store;  is there a specific bug fixed in some beta firmware release?



 Have you set the baud rate in the K3 to that of the amp?


  I see nothing in either manual about the K3 or amp having configurable
 baud rates to communicate with each other.  Do you have details?



 When the amp is moved from standby to Operate you should see a message in
 the K3 that says KPA500.


  I see nothing at all.  This is a 3rd example, I suppose, of the total
 lack of communication between K3 and KPA500.
 Again, keep in mind that the K3 isn't *directly* connected to the KPA500.
  They're actually both connected to the KAT500 tuner, as the diagrams
 specify.




 I would check the firmware.  I know there is a special button you push on
 the KAT500 that optimizes operation with the KPA500.


  I see nothing about this in the KAT500 manual, but will look again.
 The connection between tuner and amp has always worked; I haven't touched
 that special DB15 cable at all.  However, perhaps the new DB15 cable that
 arrived with the K3 is physically defective?  I'm digging for hypotheses.
  :-)



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