Re: [Elecraft] OT 4M

2014-05-20 Thread Edward R Cole
Regardless if the US will be getting 4meter ham band privileges, 
there are already at least two mfrs making 4m transverters so wonder 
if that is a market Elecraft would be interested in entering.  I have 
a contract to build a L70-28 25w DEMI transverter kit for a ham in 
Finland this month.  He will be using it with his K3.


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
Kits made by KL7UW
Dubus Mag business:
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Accessory Jack - How Many Wye Cables?

2014-05-20 Thread Mike VE3YF

Hi Don:

I will have to verify the cable once it arrives as it was listed as a 
SVGA Cable but it was fairly cheap and off eBay. I guess only time will

tell.

To the group, does anyone have a good reliable source for the cable. Tnx.


73 De Mike
VE3YF

http://www.ve3yf.com
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Re: [Elecraft] I got big heavy knobs

2014-05-20 Thread Mike Greenway
I have had a set for over a year with no problems.  I would have never bought a 
set but once I felt the difference on one actually mounted on a K3 at Dayton I 
had to have one.  I bought a second set this year.  I’ll never go back to the 
originals.  They just have a dead feel.  Something hard to explain as it is 
like driving a car.  Some you love,some not so much..  Only thing I would like 
to see is a rubber tire on it like the Yaesu tuning know.  I talked with 73CNC 
about it and they are open to the idea but the set up cost versus the number he 
might set is a gamble as to whether they would recoup their expense.  73 Mike 
K4PI
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Change filter NORM presets for SSB/CW

2014-05-20 Thread Sven Ladegast

None an idea??

I wonder why this should not be user-settable?

Sven, DJ2AT

Am 19.05.2014 09:55, schrieb Sven Ladegast:

Hello folks,

is it possible to change the NORM presets for the filter bandwidths for
SSB/CW modes at my KX3?

I find it a bit annoying that SSB defaults to 2.7 kHz and CW to 400 Hz.

Regards!

Sven, DJ2AT
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Change filter NORM presets for SSB/CW

2014-05-20 Thread Don Wilhelm

Sven,

The NORM preset is fixed, but there are the per band, per mode settings 
for NORM1 and NORM2 available to be customized as well as the I/II presets.

See page 24 of the manual.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/20/2014 8:03 AM, Sven Ladegast wrote:

None an idea??

I wonder why this should not be user-settable?

Sven, DJ2AT

Am 19.05.2014 09:55, schrieb Sven Ladegast:

Hello folks,

is it possible to change the NORM presets for the filter bandwidths for
SSB/CW modes at my KX3?

I find it a bit annoying that SSB defaults to 2.7 kHz and CW to 400 Hz.

Regards!

Sven, DJ2AT


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[Elecraft] Meaning of KAT500 flashing Auto light

2014-05-20 Thread ANDY NEHAN
I am having some problems with my understanding of the KAT500.

I have a K3 and an ACOM1000 linear. On 40m when I operate data modes or AM 
(purely for testing purposes) all is well the units work well together. I can 
happily run up to 400 watts and as is well. My 40m OCFD has an SWR of about 
1.2:1.

But when I operate SSB things go odd. For no apparent reason the KAT500 
starts to retune part way through and over and enters a fault condition (on the 
same frequency as I was using for data - so there is no frequency change 
involved) and the Auto button flashes. Now I have looked in the manual and cant 
find the meaning of the flashing Auto LED.

Can someone advise me please. I know its me but I am puzzled.

Andy
K36990
P3 2493
KAT500 1245
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Change filter NORM presets for SSB/CW

2014-05-20 Thread Phil Genera
For the KX3? Page 24 of my manual deals with battery life and vfo friction
adjustment.

-- 
Phil


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Sven,

 The NORM preset is fixed, but there are the per band, per mode settings
 for NORM1 and NORM2 available to be customized as well as the I/II presets.
 See page 24 of the manual.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


 On 5/20/2014 8:03 AM, Sven Ladegast wrote:

 None an idea??

 I wonder why this should not be user-settable?

 Sven, DJ2AT

 Am 19.05.2014 09:55, schrieb Sven Ladegast:

 Hello folks,

 is it possible to change the NORM presets for the filter bandwidths for
 SSB/CW modes at my KX3?

 I find it a bit annoying that SSB defaults to 2.7 kHz and CW to 400 Hz.

 Regards!

 Sven, DJ2AT


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Change filter NORM presets for SSB/CW

2014-05-20 Thread Don Wilhelm

Sorry,

It is early morning for me and the eyes did not focus well - so my 
response was for the K3.
For the KX3, the adjustability is not as great and there is only one 
knob.  See page 12 of the KX3 manual.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/20/2014 9:05 AM, Phil Genera wrote:

For the KX3? Page 24 of my manual deals with battery life and vfo friction
adjustment.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Accessory Jack - How Many Wye Cables?

2014-05-20 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


From the archives:


The full DB15HD Y cables available from:
  www.cablewholesale.com  p/n 10H1-27708
  www.altex.com Philmore 70-568



  or one of the breakout boards from:
  http://www.winfordeng.com/products/cat_brk.php
  the BRKSD15HDM-C is particularly interesting:
http://www.winfordeng.com/products/brksd15hd.php


I just checked both Altex and Cable Wholesale ... the Y cables
are still listed for $7.99 and $3.89 respectively.
The Winford BRKSD15HDM-C is $17.00.

Winford also have a board with one male DB15HD, one female DB15HD,
a 16 position terminal strip and fivw solder connection holes per
line to their product mix:
 http://www.winfordeng.com/products/brk15hdmf.php

BRK15HDMF-S-FT (with mounting feet) is $22.00.
BRK15HDMF-S-DIN (for DIN Rail mounting) is $23.00

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-05-20 6:06 AM, Mike VE3YF wrote:

Hi Don:

I will have to verify the cable once it arrives as it was listed as a
SVGA Cable but it was fairly cheap and off eBay. I guess only time will
tell.

To the group, does anyone have a good reliable source for the cable. Tnx.


73 De Mike
VE3YF

http://www.ve3yf.com
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Re: [Elecraft] Meaning of KAT500 flashing Auto light

2014-05-20 Thread Tom
Hi Andy, 
Make sure you have the latest firmware on your KAT500. I am many others had 
similar issues and we're resolved with the firmware. 
73s Tom 
Va2fsq.com 




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From: ANDY NEHAN andy.ne...@btinternet.com 
Date: 20/05/2014  08:44  (GMT-05:00) 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] Meaning of KAT500 flashing Auto light 
 
I am having some problems with my understanding of the KAT500.

I have a K3 and an ACOM1000 linear. On 40m when I operate data modes or AM 
(purely for testing purposes) all is well the units work well together. I can 
happily run up to 400 watts and as is well. My 40m OCFD has an SWR of about 
1.2:1.

But when I operate SSB things go odd. For no apparent reason the KAT500 
starts to retune part way through and over and enters a fault condition (on the 
same frequency as I was using for data - so there is no frequency change 
involved) and the Auto button flashes. Now I have looked in the manual and cant 
find the meaning of the flashing Auto LED.

Can someone advise me please. I know its me but I am puzzled.

Andy
K36990
P3 2493
KAT500 1245
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[Elecraft] FS: K2/100 Price Reduced

2014-05-20 Thread Steve
I have for sale my K2/100, serial number 49XX, with the KPA 100 amp built
into the unit, KSB2 SSB unit, K160RX with separate antenna port, KDSP2,
KI02 RS232 connector and board, Heil MH2 mic, DC cable with power poles on
rig end, FDIMP, all manuals, laminated info card, and a K2 Nifty
mini-manual. Rig is in excellent condition, no bangs, dents marks or other
damage.  Has full 100W output.

This is a repost of a previous sale that was not successfully completed.
The buyer could not get the rig to transmit without it showing a code of Hi
Refl that would not go away.  He was using a manual tuner and I could not
duplicate the problem with my LDG Pro II ATU.  It will show that code while
the ATU is tuning and power is reduced, but it goes away once a SWR match
is reached and PO is up to 100 watts or whatever it is set at.  I have had
many US and DX QSOs with no problem at full power within the last month to
test the rig.  Since he was not satisfied, I refunded the purchase price.
 As I don't know if this is a real issue or not, I have lowered the price
of the rig to account for any possible tweaking that is necessary.  In
light of this, I am selling the rig as is.  Other than this possible issue,
the RX is great and, as far as I can tell, TX is working as it should for
me with the ATU.  Pictures available upon request.  If you have further
questions, please send me your phone number and I will call you.

Current Elecraft price for this rig in kit form with the options listed
above is about $1,800 shipped. My price is $990 plus shipping.

Tnx  73,
Steve, N4EUK
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Re: [Elecraft] Meaning of KAT500 flashing Auto light

2014-05-20 Thread Don Wilhelm

Andy,

There have been improvements in the firmware to address exactly that 
re-tuning problem.  It has to do with the measurement of SWR - during 
SSB, if the reflected power is sampled at a voice peak and the forward 
power is sampled during a period of low RF, the resulting calculation 
will think the SWR is high and re-tune.  There have been changes made to 
the firmware to attempt to smooth that measurement over a longer period 
of time.


If you are not using the latest firmware, give it a try.

After 'training' the tuner, you may want to run it in Manual mode rather 
than letting it auto-tune 'on the fly'.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/20/2014 8:44 AM, ANDY NEHAN wrote:

I am having some problems with my understanding of the KAT500.

I have a K3 and an ACOM1000 linear. On 40m when I operate data modes or AM 
(purely for testing purposes) all is well the units work well together. I can 
happily run up to 400 watts and as is well. My 40m OCFD has an SWR of about 
1.2:1.

But when I operate SSB things go odd. For no apparent reason the KAT500 
starts to retune part way through and over and enters a fault condition (on the same 
frequency as I was using for data - so there is no frequency change involved) and the 
Auto button flashes. Now I have looked in the manual and cant find the meaning of the 
flashing Auto LED.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Accessory Jack - How Many Wye Cables?

2014-05-20 Thread Mike VE3YF

Tnx Joe:

As always, wealth of information.


73 De Mike
VE3YF

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Re: [Elecraft] OT 4M

2014-05-20 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Ed,

4 meters is not OT :)

We're offering the KX3-4M because of significant demand in Europe and elsewhere 
in ITU region 1. We've built a couple of prototypes, which performed very well.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 19, 2014, at 11:57 PM, Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:

 Regardless if the US will be getting 4meter ham band privileges, there are 
 already at least two mfrs making 4m transverters so wonder if that is a 
 market Elecraft would be interested in entering.  I have a contract to build 
 a L70-28 25w DEMI transverter kit for a ham in Finland this month.  He will 
 be using it with his K3.
 
 73, Ed - KL7UW



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Re: [Elecraft] 4M Question

2014-05-20 Thread Jim Brown

On 5/19/2014 4:07 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
One can't get a two meter frequency to put up a repeater pretty much 
anywhere (even though the band may appear to be dead)


I look at the situation differently -- too many repeaters with no one 
using them.


73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] Clarification on KX3-2M/4M current drain

2014-05-20 Thread Wayne Burdick
When the KX3 is NOT switched to 2 meters (or 4 meters), the KX3-2M/4M module is 
turned completely off, adding no current drain of its own.

When 2 m (or 4 m) is selected, the module adds a little over 100 mA, nominally. 
However, in FM mode, SLEEP settings can be used to drop the effective receive 
current drain of the module to as little as 20 mA. The module wakes up when a 
signal opens the squelch.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 TUNER WOES

2014-05-20 Thread ke9uw
Sometimes when the weather changes, the match changes. There was a thread
like this awhile back and it was noted that the different residual
capacitances and inductances when using the KAT500 versus the ATU in the K3
makes a difference in being able to find a match with certain loads. It was
also pointed out by Elecraft that the tuner values in the K3 ATU and the
KAT500 are the same.
Changing the length of the feedline sounds like a plan.



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Re: [Elecraft] 4M Question

2014-05-20 Thread Rick Bates
That's what I said too Jim. 

You can't get a pair because they're all allocated, yet (relatively) no one is 
using the repeaters. 

Of course there are a couple repeaters that also never shut off while little is 
really being said; a topic common to humanity.  ;-)

73,
Rick wa6nhc

Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable

 On May 20, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:
 
 On 5/19/2014 4:07 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
 One can't get a two meter frequency to put up a repeater pretty much 
 anywhere (even though the band may appear to be dead)
 
 I look at the situation differently -- too many repeaters with no one using 
 them.
 
 73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] Elecraft] K2 For Sale

2014-05-20 Thread Tony Castellano

Since I began using my KX3, I seldom use my K2 and have decided to sell it.
I built it about 3 years ago and am very pleased with it’s performance.
It has always been in a non-smoking environment.
I am a graduate EE and have built many kits throughout the years including 2 
K2’s and a K1. One of the K2’s was for my wife

W1ALI who gets a lot of enjoyment out of it.
This K2, serial number 7172, includes the following:
   K2 Transceiver (10 Watts)
   KAF2  Internal Audio Filter and Real Time Clock
   KAT2 Automatic Antenna Tuner
   KNB2 Noise Blanker
   Torroids  Wound By Mychael Morohovich

I am asking $650 and will ship it free anywhere in the continental US.

I will consider any reasonable offer.

Tony Castellano W1ZMB
tcaste...@optonline.net
Hopewell Junction, NY
RV-6
N401TC

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Re: [Elecraft] Meaning of KAT500 flashing Auto light

2014-05-20 Thread ANDY NEHAN
Thanks guys - its nice to know I'm not mad! Yes I do have version 1.67 which 
looks to be the latest version of the firmware. But I will use the Manual mode 
in future rather than Auto. Is there any news on having this inconsistency 
fixed??

Andy
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Re: [Elecraft] 4M Question

2014-05-20 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Folks - Let's close the repeater usage part of the discussion. This is the OT 
part of the discussion we closed yesterday.

In general, please self moderate in the future when threads drift way OT, in 
the interest of limiting email overload for our list readers.

73,
Eric
List Moderator and counselor
elecraft.com
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 On May 20, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Rick Bates happymooseph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I said too Jim. 
 
 You can't get a pair because they're all allocated, yet (relatively) no one 
 is using the repeaters. 
 
 Of course there are a couple repeaters that also never shut off while little 
 is really being said; a topic common to humanity.  ;-)
 
 73,
 Rick wa6nhc
 
 Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable
 
 On May 20, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:
 
 On 5/19/2014 4:07 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
 One can't get a two meter frequency to put up a repeater pretty much 
 anywhere (even though the band may appear to be dead)
 
 I look at the situation differently -- too many repeaters with no one using 
 them.
 
 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Accessory Jack - How Many Wye Cables?

2014-05-20 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
elecraft.com  :-)

We also sell the Y cable (E980190) and aux-only cable (E850463) as separate 
items.

73,
Eric
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 I will have to verify the cable once it arrives as it was listed as a SVGA 
 Cable but it was fairly cheap and off eBay. I guess only time will
 tell.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] I got big heavy knobs

2014-05-20 Thread Mike Greenway
In regard to dipping the knobs, that would only make a slick rubber surface.  
All the radios that have the rubber tire have a hatch work pattern in the tire 
for grip.  I don’t think the slick rubber would be any better than the metal 
surface I have.  73 Mike K4PI
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 adding rf protection diodes question

2014-05-20 Thread Alan Bloom
The diodes are not needed in the normal situation where the P3 is 
connected to the K3 IF output.


You can use the P3 as a kind of poor ham's spectrum analyzer by going 
into the menu and setting Xcvr Sel to the last item in the list, 
labeled 0 Hz.  Now the frequency displayed is the actual RF frequency 
of the IF input, not the K3 frequency.  The XCVR RS-232 connector 
should be disconnected from the K3 in this case.  Tune the frequency 
with the CENTER control.  (Make sure the CenterEn menu item is ON.)


If you do that you should add the back-to-back diodes in parallel with 
the input BNC connector. Standard 1N4148 or similar switching diodes are 
fine.  If you don't want to modify the P3 you can do what I did:  Add 
the back-to-back diodes to a male BNC connector and connect that to a 
BNC T plugged into the P3 IF IN.


There may be some slight degradation of dynamic range.  The third-order 
intercept of the P3's preamplifier is about +9 dBm (0.6 Vrms).  If 
you're worried about it you can use two diodes in series in each leg (4 
diodes total) to reduce the distortion contribution from the diodes.


Alan N1AL


On 05/19/2014 06:38 AM, Sam Morgan wrote:

It was mentioned to put a couple of diodes across the P3's input to
protect it. Do the diodes need to be 1n34a's or would 1n4148's be ok for
that application?

I had tried repeatedly to ask Don W3FPR this question off list via
direct email, but I guess all my efforts have ended up in his spam
folder?? :-(

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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] Re: P3 adding rf protection diodes question

2014-05-20 Thread Fred Townsend

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[Elecraft] Reading 'extended' data from menus via serial

2014-05-20 Thread David Patino

Howdy,

So some of the menu options have a basic setting, ie on/off, but then an 
extended setting as well. For example the Alarm menu:

MN000;
When read with MP; it will only report if the alarm is on or not (Bit 4 
on / off)
you can turn it on or off by changing that bit with MP, and you can 
change the hours/minutes setting (after sending the right SWT command) 
using UP; or DN;, but is there any way to read what time the alarm is 
set to?


The programming reference says (In some cases, more than one value can 
be accessed for a given menu entry via the numeric keys;

see menu listing in manual.)

All the manual says for the alarm menu is:
Num 1 turns the alarm on/off
Num 2 select hours
Num 3 selects minutes

None of these change what is reported by MP though and I can't seem to 
find anything else in the manual.
Anyone know if it's possible to read that value? TX ESSB is another one. 
MP turns it on/off, but not sure how to read the bandwidth setting.


73 N9PBJ
-Dave
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Re: [Elecraft] 4M Question

2014-05-20 Thread Phil Wheeler
I agree, Jim. Apparently all the pairs were 
committed when there was heavy usage (in the 
pre-cellphone era?). Now they tend to sit there 
with only a few seeing significant use. It's a 
crying shame.


Phil w7ox

On 5/20/14, 7:49 AM, Jim Brown wrote:

On 5/19/2014 4:07 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
One can't get a two meter frequency to put up a 
repeater pretty much anywhere (even though the 
band may appear to be dead)


I look at the situation differently -- too many 
repeaters with no one using them.


73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] Reading 'extended' data from menus via serial

2014-05-20 Thread David Patino

I'll answer my own question.

Once that menu setting is active, DS; command will return what the 
display is showing.


-Dave


On 5/20/2014 3:53 PM, David Patino wrote:

Howdy,

So some of the menu options have a basic setting, ie on/off, but then 
an extended setting as well. For example the Alarm menu:

MN000;
When read with MP; it will only report if the alarm is on or not (Bit 
4 on / off)
you can turn it on or off by changing that bit with MP, and you can 
change the hours/minutes setting (after sending the right SWT command) 
using UP; or DN;, but is there any way to read what time the alarm is 
set to?


The programming reference says (In some cases, more than one value 
can be accessed for a given menu entry via the numeric keys;

see menu listing in manual.)

All the manual says for the alarm menu is:
Num 1 turns the alarm on/off
Num 2 select hours
Num 3 selects minutes

None of these change what is reported by MP though and I can't seem to 
find anything else in the manual.
Anyone know if it's possible to read that value? TX ESSB is another 
one. MP turns it on/off, but not sure how to read the bandwidth setting.


73 N9PBJ
-Dave
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Re: [Elecraft] Meaning of KAT500 flashing Auto light

2014-05-20 Thread Phil Wheeler

Don,

By latest firmware do you mean latest released 
firmware or beta?  I ask because I may have seen 
that phenomenon, too, but have not been able to 
repeat it on a reliable basis.


73, Phil w7ox

On 5/20/14, 7:11 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Andy,

There have been improvements in the firmware to 
address exactly that re-tuning problem.  It has 
to do with the measurement of SWR - during SSB, 
if the reflected power is sampled at a voice 
peak and the forward power is sampled during a 
period of low RF, the resulting calculation will 
think the SWR is high and re-tune. There have 
been changes made to the firmware to attempt to 
smooth that measurement over a longer period of 
time.


If you are not using the latest firmware, give 
it a try.


After 'training' the tuner, you may want to run 
it in Manual mode rather than letting it 
auto-tune 'on the fly'.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/20/2014 8:44 AM, ANDY NEHAN wrote:
I am having some problems with my understanding 
of the KAT500.


I have a K3 and an ACOM1000 linear. On 40m when 
I operate data modes or AM (purely for testing 
purposes) all is well the units work well 
together. I can happily run up to 400 watts and 
as is well. My 40m OCFD has an SWR of about 1.2:1.


But when I operate SSB things go odd. For no 
apparent reason the KAT500 starts to retune 
part way through and over and enters a fault 
condition (on the same frequency as I was using 
for data - so there is no frequency change 
involved) and the Auto button flashes. Now I 
have looked in the manual and cant find the 
meaning of the flashing Auto LED.






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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] Re: P3 adding rf protection diodes question

2014-05-20 Thread Alan Bloom
BNC connectors are designed in such a way that the shield always 
connects before the center conductor when you plug it in.  The only way 
to get a static discharge into a female BNC is to somehow touch the 
center conductor (with your finger or whatever) without touching the 
shell.  You would need to use a tool to do that unless you have REALLY 
skinny fingers.  :=)


Alan N1AL


On 05/20/2014 11:31 AM, Fred Townsend fptowns...@earthlink.net 
[Elecraft_K3] wrote:



Alan, thank you for the good information on how to setup the P3 as a
poor ham's spectrum analyzer. However I must disagree with your first
statement. Diodes for ESD protection are needed in normal use with the
K3. When ESD occures it is frequently at connector interfaces because
the two mating bodies may be at different potentials. Good design
practice for ESD is to protect connector interfaces if the user will be
mateing and un-mateing. This is clearly the case with the K3/P3
combination. Diodes are soo cheap when applied in the SMD process it
seems like a no brainer to include ESD protection. Defeat Murphies law.

73

Fred, AE6QL


-Original Message-
From: Alan Bloom a...@elecraft.com [Elecraft_K3]
Sent: May 20, 2014 10:42 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, elecraft...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Elecraft_K3] Re: [Elecraft] P3 adding rf protection diodes
question

The diodes are not needed in the normal situation where the P3 is
connected to the K3 IF output.

You can use the P3 as a kind of poor ham's spectrum analyzer by going
into the menu and setting Xcvr Sel to the last item in the list,
labeled 0 Hz. Now the frequency displayed is the actual RF frequency
of the IF input, not the K3 frequency. The XCVR RS-232 connector
should be disconnected from the K3 in this case. Tune the frequency
with the CENTER control. (Make sure the CenterEn menu item is ON.)

If you do that you should add the back-to-back diodes in parallel with
the input BNC connector. Standard 1N4148 or similar switching diodes
are
fine. If you don't want to modify the P3 you can do what I did: Add
the back-to-back diodes to a male BNC connector and connect that to a
BNC T plugged into the P3 IF IN.

There may be some slight degradation of dynamic range. The third-order
intercept of the P3'! s preamplifier is about +9 dBm (0.6 Vrms). If
you're worried about it you can use two diodes in series in each leg (4
diodes total) to reduce the distortion contribution from the diodes.

Alan N1AL

On 05/19/2014 06:38 AM, Sam Morgan wrote:
  It was mentioned to put a couple of diodes across the P3's input to
  protect it. Do the diodes need to be 1n34a's or would 1n4148's be
ok for
  that application?
 
  I had tried repeatedly to ask Don W3FPR this question off list via
  direct email, but I guess all my efforts have ended up in his spam
  folder?? :-(



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Re: [Elecraft] Meaning of KAT500 flashing Auto light

2014-05-20 Thread Don Wilhelm

Phil,

There is no  current beta for the KAT500 - the latest release is 1.67.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/20/2014 5:24 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

Don,

By latest firmware do you mean latest released firmware or beta?  I 
ask because I may have seen that phenomenon, too, but have not been 
able to repeat it on a reliable basis.


73, Phil w7ox



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Re: [Elecraft] Meaning of KAT500 flashing Auto light

2014-05-20 Thread Gary Gregory
Did anyone answer his query regarding the flashing LED?

If not:  it is awaiting a carrier to commence tuning.

Oh dear, here i go testing my memory again folksi admit it can be a bit
iffy at times...

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 21/05/2014 7:24 AM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 Don,

 By latest firmware do you mean latest released firmware or beta?  I ask
 because I may have seen that phenomenon, too, but have not been able to
 repeat it on a reliable basis.

 73, Phil w7ox

 On 5/20/14, 7:11 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

 Andy,

 There have been improvements in the firmware to address exactly that
 re-tuning problem.  It has to do with the measurement of SWR - during SSB,
 if the reflected power is sampled at a voice peak and the forward power is
 sampled during a period of low RF, the resulting calculation will think the
 SWR is high and re-tune. There have been changes made to the firmware to
 attempt to smooth that measurement over a longer period of time.

 If you are not using the latest firmware, give it a try.

 After 'training' the tuner, you may want to run it in Manual mode rather
 than letting it auto-tune 'on the fly'.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 5/20/2014 8:44 AM, ANDY NEHAN wrote:

 I am having some problems with my understanding of the KAT500.

 I have a K3 and an ACOM1000 linear. On 40m when I operate data modes or
 AM (purely for testing purposes) all is well the units work well together.
 I can happily run up to 400 watts and as is well. My 40m OCFD has an SWR of
 about 1.2:1.

 But when I operate SSB things go odd. For no apparent reason the
 KAT500 starts to retune part way through and over and enters a fault
 condition (on the same frequency as I was using for data - so there is no
 frequency change involved) and the Auto button flashes. Now I have looked
 in the manual and cant find the meaning of the flashing Auto LED.



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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] Re: P3 adding rf protection diodes question

2014-05-20 Thread Fred Townsend
Alan I wish it were so but sadly, fat fingers or no, BNC connectors will 
typically fail ESD testing unless protected by internal circuitry or external 
covers. That's because ESD can easily jump a 1/4 inch.
73
Fred, AE6QL


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From: Alan Bloom n...@sonic.net
Sent: May 20, 2014 2:28 PM
To: elecraft...@yahoogroups.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] Re: P3 adding rf protection diodes   
question

BNC connectors are designed in such a way that the shield always 
connects before the center conductor when you plug it in.  The only way 
to get a static discharge into a female BNC is to somehow touch the 
center conductor (with your finger or whatever) without touching the 
shell.  You would need to use a tool to do that unless you have REALLY 
skinny fingers.  :=)

Alan N1AL


On 05/20/2014 11:31 AM, Fred Townsend fptowns...@earthlink.net 
[Elecraft_K3] wrote:


 Alan, thank you for the good information on how to setup the P3 as a
 poor ham's spectrum analyzer. However I must disagree with your first
 statement. Diodes for ESD protection are needed in normal use with the
 K3. When ESD occures it is frequently at connector interfaces because
 the two mating bodies may be at different potentials. Good design
 practice for ESD is to protect connector interfaces if the user will be
 mateing and un-mateing. This is clearly the case with the K3/P3
 combination. Diodes are soo cheap when applied in the SMD process it
 seems like a no brainer to include ESD protection. Defeat Murphies law.

 73

 Fred, AE6QL


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 From: Alan Bloom a...@elecraft.com [Elecraft_K3]
 Sent: May 20, 2014 10:42 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, elecraft...@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Elecraft_K3] Re: [Elecraft] P3 adding rf protection diodes
 question

 The diodes are not needed in the normal situation where the P3 is
 connected to the K3 IF output.

 You can use the P3 as a kind of poor ham's spectrum analyzer by going
 into the menu and setting Xcvr Sel to the last item in the list,
 labeled 0 Hz. Now the frequency displayed is the actual RF frequency
 of the IF input, not the K3 frequency. The XCVR RS-232 connector
 should be disconnected from the K3 in this case. Tune the frequency
 with the CENTER control. (Make sure the CenterEn menu item is ON.)

 If you do that you should add the back-to-back diodes in parallel with
 the input BNC connector. Standard 1N4148 or similar switching diodes
 are
 fine. If you don't want to modify the P3 you can do what I did: Add
 the back-to-back diodes to a male BNC connector and connect that to a
 BNC T plugged into the P3 IF IN.

 There may be some slight degradation of dynamic range. The third-order
 intercept of the P3'! s preamplifier is about +9 dBm (0.6 Vrms). If
 you're worried about it you can use two diodes in series in each leg (4
 diodes total) to reduce the distortion contribution from the diodes.

 Alan N1AL

 On 05/19/2014 06:38 AM, Sam Morgan wrote:
   It was mentioned to put a couple of diodes across the P3's input to
   protect it. Do the diodes need to be 1n34a's or would 1n4148's be
 ok for
   that application?
  
   I had tried repeatedly to ask Don W3FPR this question off list via
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[Elecraft] OT 4M

2014-05-20 Thread James Duffey
I would like to see 4M released for ham use, not necessarily for repeaters, but 
rather for weak signal use. There are many times when the MUF goes above 50 
MHz, but doesn’t reach 2M. 70 MHz would be very useful for sporadic E. Meteor 
scatter would still be good there, not as good as 50 MHz, but much better than 
144 MHz. EME, with WSJT, should be significantly easier than 50 MHz. With a 
limited number of 144MHz and up ops here, 70 MHz would really help the VHF/UHF 
contest scores in this area. The whole state of NM has a 50W limitation on 
432MHz, so we are limited as to contacts on that band.

Amateur use of 70 MHz should be able to coexist on a sharing basis with current 
users, with perhaps some limitations near critical users, if there are any. It 
is an issue that is pretty far down the priority list for the FCC or the ARRL 
though, so it will be a while. - DUffey KK6MC
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[Elecraft] K-Line on digital modes

2014-05-20 Thread Doug Person via Elecraft
I have a full K-line setup (K3, P3, KPA500, KAT500) and I've been trying 
to get the K3 working on digital modes.  I can't seem to get it to 
transmit.  Using the K3 Utility, I can verify the K3 at a particular com 
port.  Firmware updates work fine.  I can read PSK in terminal mode.  
But, when I click on the transmit button, the K3 doesn't switch to 
transmit.  I have the PTT menu option set to DTR and, in fact tried 
every variation of DTR and RTS with no difference.  I have tried both 
FTDI USB-to-Serial adapters and a genuine, built-in serial port - all of 
which work on everything else.  I'm missing something I guess.  I just 
don't see it.


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Re: [Elecraft] K-Line on digital modes

2014-05-20 Thread Don Wilhelm

Doug,

Are you attempting to send PSK31 from the K3 Utility Terminal window?  
Or from another application?


If from the K3 Utility, there is no need for DTR or RTS because K3 
Utility sends the TX command via the RS-232 com port as a command.


If you are using some other computer application, you will have to set 
things up in that application to properly key the K3 - the number of 
applications and the way they initiate transmit is too wide and varied 
for an easy email answer, consult the help file and on-line information 
for your application.


73,
Don W3FPR


On 5/20/2014 9:19 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft wrote:
I have a full K-line setup (K3, P3, KPA500, KAT500) and I've been 
trying to get the K3 working on digital modes.  I can't seem to get it 
to transmit.  Using the K3 Utility, I can verify the K3 at a 
particular com port.  Firmware updates work fine.  I can read PSK in 
terminal mode.  But, when I click on the transmit button, the K3 
doesn't switch to transmit.  I have the PTT menu option set to DTR 
and, in fact tried every variation of DTR and RTS with no difference.  
I have tried both FTDI USB-to-Serial adapters and a genuine, built-in 
serial port - all of which work on everything else.  I'm missing 
something I guess.  I just don't see it.




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Re: [Elecraft] OT 4M

2014-05-20 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


In order to be of use a US allocation should match that of the rest
of the world - approximately 70.0 - 70.5 MHz.  Unfortunately, that
is right in the middle of US TV Channel 4 and there are quite a few
authorizations on Channel 4.  See: http://www.w9wi.com/channels/4.html

Protecting the grade B contour of each authorized channel 4 station
would make any 4 M allocation off limits in much of the US.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-05-20 9:16 PM, James Duffey wrote:

I would like to see 4M released for ham use, not necessarily for repeaters, but 
rather for weak signal use. There are many times when the MUF goes above 50 
MHz, but doesn’t reach 2M. 70 MHz would be very useful for sporadic E. Meteor 
scatter would still be good there, not as good as 50 MHz, but much better than 
144 MHz. EME, with WSJT, should be significantly easier than 50 MHz. With a 
limited number of 144MHz and up ops here, 70 MHz would really help the VHF/UHF 
contest scores in this area. The whole state of NM has a 50W limitation on 
432MHz, so we are limited as to contacts on that band.

Amateur use of 70 MHz should be able to coexist on a sharing basis with current 
users, with perhaps some limitations near critical users, if there are any. It 
is an issue that is pretty far down the priority list for the FCC or the ARRL 
though, so it will be a while. - DUffey KK6MC
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KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM





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Re: [Elecraft] K-Line on digital modes

2014-05-20 Thread Jim Brown

On 5/20/2014 7:13 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
If you are using some other computer application, you will have to set 
things up in that application to properly key the K3


All digital modes work just fine on a K3 in VOX mode. I've never used 
anything else. Thus, the only need for a serial port is for logging 
software. I use computer software to generate and decode all forms of 
digital signals. For RTTY, use AFSK RTTY, set the baud rate in the rig 
the same as the in the computer software, and set both computer and rig 
to the same tone frequencies. For all other modes, use DIG A.


Things that can go wrong, in no particular order:

1) The sound card in your computer may be sending to the wrong channel, 
may even be muted. Many programs manipulate the Windoze mixer, and 
sometimes fail to put controls back where they found them. The N1MM 
Logger is notorious for doing that.


2) If you have more than one sound card, the wrong one may be selected.

3) The Line Input gain may be too low, and/or the VOX Gain may be too 
low. The Mic Gain pot becomes Line Input Gain in AFSK and DIG A modes.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K-Line on digital modes

2014-05-20 Thread Keith Onishi
With the K3 Utility, it seems that clicking on the transmit button on the 
utility screen without any message in the message box does not switch K3 to 
transmit mode.
K3 Utility is not a good tool to extensively operate digital mode. I would 
recommend some other tools such as MMTTY for RTTY and MMVali for PSK, although 
they need an additional interface device or cable to interconnect your K3 and 
PC. Of course, you cannot use either of them in parallel to K3 Utility. 
I prefer touch-typing operation on RTTY and PSK. So, I do not use K3 Utility 
for these modes.

Keith - JH3SIF

2014/05/21 10:19、Doug Person via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net のメッセージ:

 I have a full K-line setup (K3, P3, KPA500, KAT500) and I've been trying to 
 get the K3 working on digital modes.  I can't seem to get it to transmit.  
 Using the K3 Utility, I can verify the K3 at a particular com port.  Firmware 
 updates work fine.  I can read PSK in terminal mode.  But, when I click on 
 the transmit button, the K3 doesn't switch to transmit.  I have the PTT menu 
 option set to DTR and, in fact tried every variation of DTR and RTS with no 
 difference.  I have tried both FTDI USB-to-Serial adapters and a genuine, 
 built-in serial port - all of which work on everything else.  I'm missing 
 something I guess.  I just don't see it.
 
 Doug -- K0DXV
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