Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors
Personally, I can't WAIT until we endorse the metric system. Then we'll only have ten months so we can completely eliminate those nasty January's and February's. Chas - Original Message - From: Mark via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors Don said: “Yes, but you have to do a bit of math.” …or use one of the most useful pieces of software ever written (for an engineer, anyway), Convert (http://joshmadison.com/). I used it throughout my career which required skills in both metric and imperial systems. Like Morse Code or learning a new language, it gets easy after you do it for a while, but usually conversion isn’t really necessary. All modern electronic components are spec’d in metric. Electronic power and temperatures limits have always been in metric units, even for old tubes, so it makes sense that Elecraft chose to display Deg. C. Keeping a few key temperatures in mind really helps. Water freezes at 0 deg. C, 20 deg. C is about room temperature, 70 deg. C is uncomfortable to touch, and water boils at 100 deg. C and will definitely hurt to touch. Write this down, keep it in front of you. Get familiar with a few component spec sheets for some of the components in your radio whose temperatures are displayed, and you will soon start thinking in “degrees Celsius”. Learn, learn, learn. It will keep you young! Regards, Mark ars: KE6BB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pin...@erols.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Using a KAT-500 and THP HL-1.5KFX
Is anyone using this combination with automatic bandswitching/tuning? I have the amp and K3 along with the special cable that connects the K3 to the amp for auto bandswitching. I'm hoping that will also work with the KAT-500 added. Thanks, Pete, W1RM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors
I ditto the use of Convert. It's not just for engineers. On 6/21/2014 10:37 PM, Mark via Elecraft wrote: Don said: “Yes, but you have to do a bit of math.” …or use one of the most useful pieces of software ever written (for an engineer, anyway), Convert (http://joshmadison.com/). I used it throughout my career which required skills in both metric and imperial systems. Like Morse Code or learning a new language, it gets easy after you do it for a while, but usually conversion isn’t really necessary. All modern electronic components are spec’d in metric. Electronic power and temperatures limits have always been in metric units, even for old tubes, so it makes sense that Elecraft chose to display Deg. C. Keeping a few key temperatures in mind really helps. Water freezes at 0 deg. C, 20 deg. C is about room temperature, 70 deg. C is uncomfortable to touch, and water boils at 100 deg. C and will definitely hurt to touch. Write this down, keep it in front of you. Get familiar with a few component spec sheets for some of the components in your radio whose temperatures are displayed, and you will soon start thinking in “degrees Celsius”. Learn, learn, learn. It will keep you young! Regards, Mark ars: KE6BB -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors
Thanks for all the helpful suggestions. Yes, I learned all the temperature conversion formulas in high school chemistry. Unfortunately, I don't live in the metric universe, I just visit it. With all the complicated things the K3 firmware does, it seems that Celsius to Fahrenheit would be an easy and convenient feature to have. 73, Ron, K5HM k5hm@gmail.com www.qrz.com/db/k5hm -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Stover Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 8:12 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors I ditto the use of Convert. It's not just for engineers. On 6/21/2014 10:37 PM, Mark via Elecraft wrote: Don said: “Yes, but you have to do a bit of math.” …or use one of the most useful pieces of software ever written (for an engineer, anyway), Convert (http://joshmadison.com/). I used it throughout my career which required skills in both metric and imperial systems. Like Morse Code or learning a new language, it gets easy after you do it for a while, but usually conversion isn’t really necessary. All modern electronic components are spec’d in metric. Electronic power and temperatures limits have always been in metric units, even for old tubes, so it makes sense that Elecraft chose to display Deg. C. Keeping a few key temperatures in mind really helps. Water freezes at 0 deg. C, 20 deg. C is about room temperature, 70 deg. C is uncomfortable to touch, and water boils at 100 deg. C and will definitely hurt to touch. Write this down, keep it in front of you. Get familiar with a few component spec sheets for some of the components in your radio whose temperatures are displayed, and you will soon start thinking in “degrees Celsius”. Learn, learn, learn. It will keep you young! Regards, Mark ars: KE6BB -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k5hm@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] P3 Questions
Hi Steve, If you are considering on whether or not to buy a P3, the answer is very easy - GET IT. It is really a great value and I am surprised they do not charge more for them. I cannot say enough good about the P3. It is the most useful and most used ham radio implement I have ever had. I was a ham for 26 years before I got a nice scope. Working CW, I would keep my filters open and use my ears as a band scope as much as I could, tune up and down the band every few minutes and form a mental vision of what is going on above and below. Now with the P3 it is as if I was blind and now I can see. It gives you a constant three dimensional view of the radio spectrum- Frequency, Time and Amplitude. I have found that the waterfall gives you the best three dimensional visualization while the spectrum scope is useful for comparative measurements and such. The color and crispness and smoothness of the presentation is also excellent. It is comfortable to look at for long periods and easy on the eyes. I do not have the SVGA option so my observations are based on the basic P3 (#177). The information that it gives you is probably useful in many more ways you might now imagine. Identifying and understanding the origins of RF noise, what is it really doing across the whole band? All those strange blips or sounds I would hear but only on my freq, are now much easier to identify and understand. You will soon be learning to identify most individual modes of digital signals, PSK31, Olivia, FieldHell, Thor, Throb etc just by seeing it up or down the band. You will probably learn to identify many things about a SSB signal even before you tune to it, and thus decide if you want to tune to it. Is it a narrow signal with a lot of high end, is it a wider signal and full bodied? Consistent repeat, using compression, heavy processing or no processing. Many other details about CW or other digital signals also can tell you if there is multipath or warble in the signal, coming over the north pole etc. All this even before you tune to the signal. I don't contest but I do DX and hunt for weak signals. The P3 is constantly in use for both. In addition to finding the signals that you want, It is very handy for finding and jumping to holes in the QRM or in QRN. I am surprised that even the most expensive rigs from the Japanese manufactures do not have scopes that even come close to the true usefulness of the P3. They have really missed the boat when it comes to band scopes. My request for Elecraft is that they finish the option to monitor your transmitted signal, and I would like to see a peak hold setting on the spectrum scope that decays after a few seconds rather than having to manually reset it. Thank you Elecraft for a job well done! Dean KG7MZ ** Hi, Until recently, I have not been interested in the P3 because I didn't think it would be useful for my way of operating. Now, I think I am missing something quite useful but I need to get educated on it. I am interested in some suggested reading which covers the capabilities and how those capabilities would help me in contesting and dxing. For example, can I see a signal blip, identify it, move my K3 to it, etc. Many more questions but I am sure someone has already documented the advantages. I have two K3's which are ready to accept a P3. Thanks in advance. Steve, K4FJ *** __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors
I understand the metric system. I have to convert everything. My mind has been in OUR system for 70 years and doesn't visualize anything until I convert it. Additional comments withheld . I don't force you to do anything my way so why do you try to force me to do things your way? Too old for this . 73, Jim KG0KP -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Charlie T, K3ICH Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 6:28 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors Personally, I can't WAIT until we endorse the metric system. Then we'll only have ten months so we can completely eliminate those nasty January's and February's. Chas - Original Message - From: Mark via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors Don said: “Yes, but you have to do a bit of math.” …or use one of the most useful pieces of software ever written (for an engineer, anyway), Convert (http://joshmadison.com/). I used it throughout my career which required skills in both metric and imperial systems. Like Morse Code or learning a new language, it gets easy after you do it for a while, but usually conversion isn’t really necessary. All modern electronic components are spec’d in metric. Electronic power and temperatures limits have always been in metric units, even for old tubes, so it makes sense that Elecraft chose to display Deg. C. Keeping a few key temperatures in mind really helps. Water freezes at 0 deg. C, 20 deg. C is about room temperature, 70 deg. C is uncomfortable to touch, and water boils at 100 deg. C and will definitely hurt to touch. Write this down, keep it in front of you. Get familiar with a few component spec sheets for some of the components in your radio whose temperatures are displayed, and you will soon start thinking in “degrees Celsius”. Learn, learn, learn. It will keep you young! Regards, Mark ars: KE6BB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pin...@erols.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimmil...@stl-online.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors
Knowing the formulas for conversion means that you can do them in your head. The arithmetic is easy. Actually, the arithmetic is trivial if you allow a slight error in your result. Formula for going from F degrees to C degrees is: C = 5/9 * (F - 32) Or, five-ninths of result of subtracting 32 from F degree reading. But, 5/9th is close to 5/10ths for rough, in the head, calculations and 5/10ths is 1/2 or one-half. So, to convert degrees F to degrees C you do the following: subtract 32 then divide the result by 2. Easy to do in your head quickly even while carrying on a QSO with someone in Celsius land. Example, your outdoor temperature is 85 degrees F (meaning, you don't live in the Seattle area) so you subtract 32 to get 53 and divide by 2 which is 27.5 degrees. The actual value is 5/9th instead of 1/2 (5/10ths) so the correct C reading of 85 degrees F is: 29.44 (and, not many of us can feel the difference in temp of just 2 degrees). You can even get used to the idea of adding in a fudge factor due to the error in the calculation that might range from 1 to 3 degrees depending on the range of the F value. The actual error is close 6 percent (that is, result is ~6 percent too small using this trick) so just remember the 6 percent fudge factor). For C to F just do the opposite: double your C temp value and add 32. 73, phil On Jun 22, 2014, at 7:30 AM, Jim Miller jimmil...@stl-online.net wrote: I understand the metric system. I have to convert everything. My mind has been in OUR system for 70 years and doesn't visualize anything until I convert it. Additional comments withheld . I don't force you to do anything my way so why do you try to force me to do things your way? Too old for this . 73, Jim KG0KP -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Charlie T, K3ICH Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 6:28 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors Personally, I can't WAIT until we endorse the metric system. Then we'll only have ten months so we can completely eliminate those nasty January's and February's. Chas - Original Message - From: Mark via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors Don said: “Yes, but you have to do a bit of math.” …or use one of the most useful pieces of software ever written (for an engineer, anyway), Convert (http://joshmadison.com/). I used it throughout my career which required skills in both metric and imperial systems. Like Morse Code or learning a new language, it gets easy after you do it for a while, but usually conversion isn’t really necessary. All modern electronic components are spec’d in metric. Electronic power and temperatures limits have always been in metric units, even for old tubes, so it makes sense that Elecraft chose to display Deg. C. Keeping a few key temperatures in mind really helps. Water freezes at 0 deg. C, 20 deg. C is about room temperature, 70 deg. C is uncomfortable to touch, and water boils at 100 deg. C and will definitely hurt to touch. Write this down, keep it in front of you. Get familiar with a few component spec sheets for some of the components in your radio whose temperatures are displayed, and you will soon start thinking in “degrees Celsius”. Learn, learn, learn. It will keep you young! Regards, Mark ars: KE6BB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pin...@erols.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimmil...@stl-online.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help
Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors
I don't see that it matters. If you learn the normal operating temperatures of your K3 in C then knowing those numbers in F doesn't add any information. If the normal PA temp is 55C during a contest and you see it at 60C then you know you should back off a bit. The only time you need to convert is when you calibrate the temp sensors. 73, Brian K0DTJ On Jun 22, 2014, at 7:30, Jim Miller jimmil...@stl-online.net wrote: I understand the metric system. I have to convert everything. My mind has been in OUR system for 70 years and doesn't visualize anything until I convert it. Additional comments withheld . I don't force you to do anything my way so why do you try to force me to do things your way? Too old for this . 73, Jim KG0KP -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Charlie T, K3ICH Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 6:28 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors Personally, I can't WAIT until we endorse the metric system. Then we'll only have ten months so we can completely eliminate those nasty January's and February's. Chas - Original Message - From: Mark via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors Don said: “Yes, but you have to do a bit of math.” …or use one of the most useful pieces of software ever written (for an engineer, anyway), Convert (http://joshmadison.com/). I used it throughout my career which required skills in both metric and imperial systems. Like Morse Code or learning a new language, it gets easy after you do it for a while, but usually conversion isn’t really necessary. All modern electronic components are spec’d in metric. Electronic power and temperatures limits have always been in metric units, even for old tubes, so it makes sense that Elecraft chose to display Deg. C. Keeping a few key temperatures in mind really helps. Water freezes at 0 deg. C, 20 deg. C is about room temperature, 70 deg. C is uncomfortable to touch, and water boils at 100 deg. C and will definitely hurt to touch. Write this down, keep it in front of you. Get familiar with a few component spec sheets for some of the components in your radio whose temperatures are displayed, and you will soon start thinking in “degrees Celsius”. Learn, learn, learn. It will keep you young! Regards, Mark ars: KE6BB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pin...@erols.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimmil...@stl-online.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to huntin...@coastside.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors
I think the temp presentation on the K3 is just fine. The temp limits for the finals are expressed in degrees C in the Elecraft docs and the device spec sheets. Why convert? -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] OT: Mechanical Dot Stabilizer for Bug type keys
Back home from vacation and again taking orders for the Dot Stabilizers. All models of Vibroplex bugs, McElroy Bugs and the Les Logan or Johnson Speed-X bugs as well as some others as long as you can supply me dimensions and pictures - Email me off list please to keep the clutter down. If you don't know what this is, see http://artifaxbooks.com/dotstabilizer.htm for the theory and pictures of the original plus several of the re-designed ones I make. Jim - W0EB w...@cox.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- now off topic
You can convert temperatures C to F, and what have you, right in the google search box. type 20 degrees C in F -- it converts. also 20 pounds sterling in dollars also 25.4 mm in inches, 20 tesla in guass, 15 drams in liters, 250 horsepower in kw, and 100 angstroms in parsecs (yes, really!) It converts all kinds of things. Very convenient. If you are using chrome, you can put these searches right in the omnibox. Jeff -- Forwarded message -- From: Kevin Stover kevin.sto...@mediacombb.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 08:11:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors I ditto the use of Convert. It's not just for engineers. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors
Here is an online converter that has satisfied my needs: http://www.worldwidemetric.com/Measurements.html At least I can still do the MHz to MC conversion without looking it up. It will in my mind always be MC. 73, Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) K2TKR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors
Alas, we are still inching our way to metric. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 6/21/2014 8:37 PM, Mark via Elecraft wrote: Don said: “Yes, but you have to do a bit of math.” __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- now off topic
What is the conversion factor from furlongs per fortnight to KPH? Chas __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- now off topic
1 KPH= 1670.245764733954 furlongs/fortnight. 8) Bruce/N1RX -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Charlie T, K3ICH Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 2:06 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- now off topic What is the conversion factor from furlongs per fortnight to KPH? Chas __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- now off topic
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH pin...@erols.com wrote: What is the conversion factor from furlongs per fortnight to KPH? http://www.kylesconverter.com/speed-or-velocity/furlongs-per-fortnight-to-kilometres-per-hour 73 jeff wk6i -- Jeff Stai ~ wk6i.j...@gmail.com Twisted Oak Winery ~ http://www.twistedoak.com/ Facebook ~ http://www.facebook.com/twistedoak __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: Alas, we are still inching our way to metric. Yeah. If you give them a centimeter they'll take a kilometer. The easiest way I know if in your head doesn't work for you, go to google.com and type 55c to f and enter in the search box. Done. 73 jeff wk6i -- Jeff Stai ~ wk6i.j...@gmail.com Twisted Oak Winery ~ http://www.twistedoak.com/ Facebook ~ http://www.facebook.com/twistedoak __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors
the temp specs for the chips are all in centigrade. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- totally off topic
Now this is really way off topic. Yes, any rig requires a learning curve... But math? And furlongs? This has very little to do with Elecraft! Just wait until Eric gets back home after the weekend, I can hear him saying:: Folks, it's time to end this thread... 73 Richard - HB9ANM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] WTB: KBPF3 Gen Cov Module
Hi: I am looking for a KBPF3 General Coverage Rx Module for the K3. The module must be complete with the hardware in excellent operating condition. Someone must have one that they are not using. Tnx 73 De Mike VE3YF http://www.ve3yf.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors
On Jun 22, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Jeff Herr her...@comcast.net wrote: the temp specs for the chips are all in centigrade. In science and engineering, the most correct scale to use is Celsius. This was established in the 1950s by a standard naming the Celsius scale as being the Kelvin (absolute temperature) scale minus 273.15. If you compare the old centigrade scale to Celsius they differ in terms of the value of freezing point versus triple point of water. The original Celsius scale was actually the reverse of the centigrade scale where 100 was freezing point of water and 0 was boiling point of water. But, after the death of Anders Celsius, the end points were reversed to match the centigrade and the two scales were the same until the 1950s when they received slightly different definitions with the meaning of the 0 measure on the scale. 73, phil, K7PEH* * more of a physicist than an engineer. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Temperature Sensors
Actually, I believe the saying goes Give em 2.54 CM an they'll take 1.609344 Kilometers. 73 de Dennis KD7CAC Scottsdale, AZ On Jun 22, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Jeff Stai wk6i.j...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: Alas, we are still inching our way to metric. Yeah. If you give them a centimeter they'll take a kilometer. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] WTB: KBPF3 Gen Cov Module
While we are at it, I'll take one to. (I just was planning to put up the same want advertisement.) 73 Will K6ND 774 287 3301 Mendon, Massachusetts -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike VE3YF Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 3:27 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KBPF3 Gen Cov Module Hi: I am looking for a KBPF3 General Coverage Rx Module for the K3. The module must be complete with the hardware in excellent operating condition. Someone must have one that they are not using. Tnx 73 De Mike VE3YF http://www.ve3yf.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@k6nd.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- now off topic
Thank you for this; it is really funny. 73 Jerry KM3K -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Beford Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 2:49 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- now off topic 1 KPH= 1670.245764733954 furlongs/fortnight. 8) Bruce/N1RX -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Charlie T, K3ICH Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 2:06 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- now off topic What is the conversion factor from furlongs per fortnight to KPH? Chas __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jso...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] WTB: KRX3-F High Performance Subreceiver for the K3-F (was KBPF3 Gen Cov Module)
Ooops, my bet.I am NOT looking for the KBPF3. I am in need of the KRX3-F High Performance Subreceiver for the K3-F (incl. 2.7 kHz filter). I just bought a fully loaded K3/100F without the Subreceiver. Sorry about that. 73 Will K6ND 774 287 3301 Mendon, Massachusetts -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Will Angenent Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 4:28 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KBPF3 Gen Cov Module While we are at it, I'll take one to. (I just was planning to put up the same want advertisement.) 73 Will K6ND 774 287 3301 Mendon, Massachusetts -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike VE3YF Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 3:27 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KBPF3 Gen Cov Module Hi: I am looking for a KBPF3 General Coverage Rx Module for the K3. The module must be complete with the hardware in excellent operating condition. Someone must have one that they are not using. Tnx 73 De Mike VE3YF http://www.ve3yf.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@k6nd.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@k6nd.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 60-Meter Dial Display Frequencies
To our K3 60-Meter Operators… Can someone please give me a list of dial display frequencies used with a K3 for USB and CW on 60 Meters, all five Channels? I’ve seen much of the boilerplate information around talking about carrier vs dial frequency but some of it is conflicting. So, I was hoping an active K3 60-Meter operator using both USB and CW can tell me what his/her K3 dial displays for frequency when one is dead on the right frequency for each Channel and Mode (USB CW). Thanks, Bob W1XT Sun City West, AZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 60-Meter Dial Display Frequencies
Bob, You did not specify the mode, but I can answer for any mode. For SSB, take the FCC specified center frequencies, and subtract 1.5 kHz for the USB carrier frequency. For CW and narrowband data modes, the Elecraft display will be at the specified center frequencies. For SSB, the K2, K3 and KX3 display the suppressed carrier frequency, and the regulations require that the USB signal be centered on the channel - subtracting 1.5 kHz will provide that centering. For CW and soundcard data modes, Elecraft gear displays the transmit carrier frequency, and that should be the channel center. Other transceivers may handle the frequency display differently, and I can only speak for how Elecraft handles it. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/22/2014 5:32 PM, Bob Myers wrote: To our K3 60-Meter Operators… Can someone please give me a list of dial display frequencies used with a K3 for USB and CW on 60 Meters, all five Channels? I’ve seen much of the boilerplate information around talking about carrier vs dial frequency but some of it is conflicting. So, I was hoping an active K3 60-Meter operator using both USB and CW can tell me what his/her K3 dial displays for frequency when one is dead on the right frequency for each Channel and Mode (USB CW). __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 60-Meter Dial Display Frequencies
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: You did not specify the mode, but I can answer for any mode. Actually he specified USB and CW (twice) For SSB, take the FCC specified center frequencies, and subtract 1.5 kHz for the USB carrier frequency. For CW and narrowband data modes, the Elecraft display will be at the specified center frequencies. For SSB, the K2, K3 and KX3 display the suppressed carrier frequency, and the regulations require that the USB signal be centered on the channel - subtracting 1.5 kHz will provide that centering. For CW and soundcard data modes, Elecraft gear displays the transmit carrier frequency, and that should be the channel center. Err, no - (at least on the K3) in DATA A submode, which would typically be used for soundcard data modes, the dial frequency is that of the suppressed carrier for USB (or LSB, if REV is selected), so one method would be to use the USB dial frequency (channel center minus 1500Hz) and use (only) a 1500Hz offset (on the waterfall) in the digital mode software. Only for the sub-modes ending with 'D' would it be appropriate to use the channel center frequency. Actually for FSK, the dial will show the mark frequency, so to be completely centered in the channel, you probably should offset by half of the shift (e.g. 85Hz), but I doubt you'd get cited for being 85Hz off. Anyway, to answer the original question; the channel frequencies for CW and USB are listed at: http://www.arrl.org/news/new-60-meter-privileges-now-in-effect and should be used exactly as listed there for CW and USB modes on the K3. 73, ~iain / N6ML On 6/22/2014 5:32 PM, Bob Myers wrote: To our K3 60-Meter Operators… Can someone please give me a list of dial display frequencies used with a K3 for USB and CW on 60 Meters, all five Channels? I’ve seen much of the boilerplate information around talking about carrier vs dial frequency but some of it is conflicting. So, I was hoping an active K3 60-Meter operator using both USB and CW can tell me what his/her K3 dial displays for frequency when one is dead on the right frequency for each Channel and Mode (USB CW). __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to a...@dseven.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 60-Meter Dial Display Frequencies
Can someone please give me a list of dial display frequencies used with a K3 for USB and CW on 60 Meters, all five Channels? The following table shows which modes may be used on which frequencies: Displayed Frequency Authorized Modes (Emissions) 5330.5 kHz USB Phone (2K80J3E), USB PSK31 (60H0J2B), USB PACTOR-III (2K80J2D) 5332.0 kHz CW (150HA1A) 5346.5 kHz USB Phone (2K80J3E), USB PSK31 (60H0J2B), USB PACTOR-III (2K80J2D) 5348.0 kHz CW (150HA1A) 5357.0 kHz USB Phone (2K80J3E), USB PSK31 (60H0J2B), USB PACTOR-III (2K80J2D) 5358.5 kHz CW (150HA1A) 5371.5 kHz USB Phone (2K80J3E), USB PSK31 (60H0J2B), USB PACTOR-III (2K80J2D) 5373.0 kHz CW (150HA1A) 5403.5 kHz USB Phone (2K80J3E), USB PSK31 (60H0J2B), USB PACTOR-III (2K80J2D) 5405.0 kHz CW (150HA1A) I store these ten frequencies shown above in ten memories on my various HF rigs, in pairs of two with USB mode stored for the first and CW mode stored for the second of each pair. Background: The FCC report related to the 05 March 2012 60 meter band rule changes was published in the Federal Register at http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012-02-03/pdf/2012-2477.pdf . It authorizes five 3 kHz channels, each with the following channel CENTER frequencies: 5332.0 kHz 5348.0 kHz 5358.5 kHz 5373.0 kHz 5405.0 kHz . It designates five channel CARRIER frequencies that are 1.5 kHz BELOW the channel CENTER frequencies: 5330.5 kHz 5346.5 kHz 5357.0 kHz 5371.5 kHz 5403.5 kHz . The authorized emissions and frequencies for 60 meters are: 150HA1A CW Morse telegraphy. Transmitter dial must be set to the channel CENTER frequency. 2K80J3E USB phone. Transmitter dial must be set to the channel CARRIER frequency (which is 1.5 kHz BELOW the channel CENTER frequency). 60H0J2B RTTY (ONLY PSK31, sent on USB phone). Transmitter dial must be set to the channel CARRIER frequency (which is 1.5 kHz BELOW the channel CENTER frequency). 2K80J2D DATA (ONLY PACTOR-III, sent on USB phone). Transmitter dial must be set to the channel CARRIER frequency (which is 1.5 kHz BELOW the channel CENTER frequency). The applicable 47CFR97 regulations are found at http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfrSID=1e17c74c2975ff111a839967ad3f2f38rgn=div5view=textnode=47:5.0.1.1.6idno=47#47:5.0.1.1.6.4.157.2 Most related information is found in sections 97.303 though 97.307 found in the above link. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 60-Meter Dial Display Frequencies
Ian is correct - yes, I was thinking of DATA modes PSK D and FSK D. The general answer is to know your transceiver and how it displays the transmit frequency. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/22/2014 6:10 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: You did not specify the mode, but I can answer for any mode. Actually he specified USB and CW (twice) For SSB, take the FCC specified center frequencies, and subtract 1.5 kHz for the USB carrier frequency. For CW and narrowband data modes, the Elecraft display will be at the specified center frequencies. For SSB, the K2, K3 and KX3 display the suppressed carrier frequency, and the regulations require that the USB signal be centered on the channel - subtracting 1.5 kHz will provide that centering. For CW and soundcard data modes, Elecraft gear displays the transmit carrier frequency, and that should be the channel center. Err, no - (at least on the K3) in DATA A submode, which would typically be used for soundcard data modes, the dial frequency is that of the suppressed carrier for USB (or LSB, if REV is selected), so one method would be to use the USB dial frequency (channel center minus 1500Hz) and use (only) a 1500Hz offset (on the waterfall) in the digital mode software. Only for the sub-modes ending with 'D' would it be appropriate to use the channel center frequency. Actually for FSK, the dial will show the mark frequency, so to be completely centered in the channel, you probably should offset by half of the shift (e.g. 85Hz), but I doubt you'd get cited for being 85Hz off. Anyway, to answer the original question; the channel frequencies for CW and USB are listed at: http://www.arrl.org/news/new-60-meter-privileges-now-in-effect and should be used exactly as listed there for CW and USB modes on the K3. 73, ~iain / N6ML On 6/22/2014 5:32 PM, Bob Myers wrote: To our K3 60-Meter Operators… Can someone please give me a list of dial display frequencies used with a K3 for USB and CW on 60 Meters, all five Channels? I’ve seen much of the boilerplate information around talking about carrier vs dial frequency but some of it is conflicting. So, I was hoping an active K3 60-Meter operator using both USB and CW can tell me what his/her K3 dial displays for frequency when one is dead on the right frequency for each Channel and Mode (USB CW). __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to a...@dseven.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w3...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- totally off topic
In High School, 1953 to 1958, I was introduced to the Metric System in Chemistry and Physics. I thought WOW, what a system, I can soon forget the obsolete feet, inches, Fahrenheit stuff and use a system that makes sense. In college in Engineering School I used mostly the Metric system which confirmed that we could soon forget the English System of Measurements. In 1978 when I worked in Scotland, I found that even the English did not use the English system and were converting to Metric. I checked and only the United States, Burma and Liberia still used the English system. I worked nearly 50 years using the English System that even the English found too difficult. Now, I am retired and we are still trying to hold on to the obsolete system of measurements. Even QST gave up on it 40 years ago! Enough! It is time for the USA to quit fighting the rest of the world and switch to Metric Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart On Sunday, June 22, 2014 2:15 PM, Richard - HB9ANM hb9...@bluewin.ch wrote: Now this is really way off topic. Yes, any rig requires a learning curve... But math? And furlongs? This has very little to do with Elecraft! Just wait until Eric gets back home after the weekend, I can hear him saying:: Folks, it's time to end this thread...73Richard - HB9ANM__Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to wrco...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- totally off
The United States is being dragged from Imperial measurements to the Metric System- Inch by Inch. 8) Bruce/N1RX (Enjoying a pint...) Enough! It is time for the USA to quit fighting the rest of the world and switch to Metric __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- totally off topic
Well, that may be more possible than many years ago when a switch to metric was proposed. At that time, the machine tool industry was well invested in the English system for such things as screw threads and such. Now that the automotive industry uses mostly metric hardware, the switch may be easier than it was 'back then'. I think the main stumbling block right now is a 'consumer attitude' in the US that thinks in the English system. I can go to the hardware store and buy Metric fasteners, no problem, so in terms of hardware availability, no problem exists - I think the major problem is in the minds of the US consumers who are well indoctrinated into the English system of weights and measures. Even at that, it is not entirely English - my weight is in Pounds, but in England, it would be in Stones, while the rest of the world would measure weight in Kilograms. So much for standardization. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/22/2014 6:43 PM, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft wrote: In High School, 1953 to 1958, I was introduced to the Metric System in Chemistry and Physics. I thought WOW, what a system, I can soon forget the obsolete feet, inches, Fahrenheit stuff and use a system that makes sense. In college in Engineering School I used mostly the Metric system which confirmed that we could soon forget the English System of Measurements. In 1978 when I worked in Scotland, I found that even the English did not use the English system and were converting to Metric. I checked and only the United States, Burma and Liberia still used the English system. I worked nearly 50 years using the English System that even the English found too difficult. Now, I am retired and we are still trying to hold on to the obsolete system of measurements. Even QST gave up on it 40 years ago! Enough! It is time for the USA to quit fighting the rest of the world and switch to Metric __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] T1
Hello all just wanted to drop a line to comment on the T1 auto tuner I ordered it at dayton and waited seamlikes forever but it arrived put the battery in and I will tell you the best money I ever spent this thing will tune any thing i put to it I have been using it on my 703 and have found it is better than the internial one now waiting on the cable for the Ft-817 see you all field day 73'S Rick N8MFN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] off topic cell phone repeater
I'm looking to get a cdma/gsm repeater system. I have a samsung galaxy s3 and use cricket as my carrier. Does anyone have any experience using one or working for one of the wireless carriers that could recomend a repeater I could use to boost the 3g signal where I work. Please reply off list. WT5Y john Sent from my Cricket smartphone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- totally off topic
Since Eric seems to be on vacation or otherwise indisposed ... With full credit to Richmond Johnson, a colleague at work and retired USAF Col, I think the problem with going metric is that we all have a Knower inside our head, as he said. I know what a mile is. I have body parts that help me know what an inch, a foot, or a yard are. On the highway, I can probably tell you when we've gone a mile to within maybe 200-300 ft. I know what a pound is, give me a brick and I'll likely hit it within a few ounces. Yes, my Knower knows what an ounce is too. Ham radio as a teen exposed me to metric ... 80 and 40 meters. While in uniform in SE Asia, I learned metric for good. It took awhile for my knower to know what a kilometer was without translating to miles, but it did, and now I just know what a kilometer is, same for meters, centimeters and millimeters. I know how hot my KPA500 is when it says 60C. I have to think to relate that to deg F, and I don't care anyway. At one point a number of years ago, CalTrans began putting both miles and km on road signs. I don't think there are many left. It's probably going to take a generation or two dying off [one might be mine :-))] before the move to metric will accelerate. It's moving very slow now, furlong by furlong, it does seem really slow. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 6/22/2014 3:56 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Well, that may be more possible than many years ago when a switch to metric was proposed. At that time, the machine tool industry was well invested in the English system for such things as screw threads and such. Now that the automotive industry uses mostly metric hardware, the switch may be easier than it was 'back then'. I think the main stumbling block right now is a 'consumer attitude' in the US that thinks in the English system. I can go to the hardware store and buy Metric fasteners, no problem, so in terms of hardware availability, no problem exists - I think the major problem is in the minds of the US consumers who are well indoctrinated into the English system of weights and measures. Even at that, it is not entirely English - my weight is in Pounds, but in England, it would be in Stones, while the rest of the world would measure weight in Kilograms. So much for standardization. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] P3SVGA
Installed P3SVGA in a P3 this weekend. The P3 starts up, says waiting for SVGA and shuts off. Any idea what's up? thanks, Phil K3TUF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Look carefully at the insertion of the P3SVGA board in the P3 board. Also, have you installed the FW on the P3 to utilize the SVGA addition? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill On Jun 22, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Phil Theis p...@k3tuf.com wrote: Installed P3SVGA in a P3 this weekend. The P3 starts up, says waiting for SVGA and shuts off. Any idea what's up? thanks, Phil K3TUF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
Must the firmware be installed first? If it would start now, I'd do the firmware. Phil On 6/22/2014 9:19 PM, Nr4c wrote: Look carefully at the insertion of the P3SVGA board in the P3 board. Also, have you installed the FW on the P3 to utilize the SVGA addition? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill On Jun 22, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Phil Theis p...@k3tuf.com wrote: Installed P3SVGA in a P3 this weekend. The P3 starts up, says waiting for SVGA and shuts off. Any idea what's up? thanks, Phil K3TUF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Awesome radio
I had my K3 open today to install the DVR to use mostly for field day. Anyway I had almost forgot how beautifully engineered it is and how nice it is inside. It should have clear panels with switchable lighting... Rich KC8HMJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Awesome radio
Hi Rich, At least a clear top panel. Like Ferrari do on some models to show off the motor. Good thinking, 73 Glen VK1FB On Monday, June 23, 2014, Richard radio...@wideopenwest.com wrote: I had my K3 open today to install the DVR to use mostly for field day. Anyway I had almost forgot how beautifully engineered it is and how nice it is inside. It should have clear panels with switchable lighting... Rich KC8HMJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net javascript:; This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to glen.t...@gmail.com javascript:; __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- totally off topic
My remarks, while true were mostly tongue in cheek because someone wanted Elecraft to use measurements in Fahrenheit instead of Celsius. Electronics is the one area in the US where metric is usually used. Hams of all people need to have their knower bilingual since we converse with the world and most of the world uses metric. In 1978 I lived in Scotland for a while on a job and they were reluctantly for some converting to 100 pence to the pound sterling, litres for liquid sales such as gasoline and milk and weights were in grams or kilos. People would tell you their weight in stones, but I expect their doctors kept their weight in kilos. A big problem with conversion, particularly in my industry which was oil and gas is engineers who do not want to change. The thing that amuses me is that I have been wanting to go metric since I was 15 or 16 and I am now 73 and we have not made it yet. I think it is about time to give up. But I still need two sets of tools to work on my car. At least screwdrivers, pliers and Cresent wrenches are not metric and English. At least Whitworth is out except for British antiques. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart On Sunday, June 22, 2014 6:01 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Well, that may be more possible than many years ago when a switch to metric was proposed. At that time, the machine tool industry was well invested in the English system for such things as screw threads and such. Now that the automotive industry uses mostly metric hardware, the switch may be easier than it was 'back then'.I think the main stumbling block right now is a 'consumer attitude' in the US that thinks in the English system.I can go to the hardware store and buy Metric fasteners, no problem, so in terms of hardware availability, no problem exists - I think the major problem is in the minds of the US consumers who are well indoctrinated into the English system of weights and measures.Even at that, it is not entirely English - my weight is in Pounds, but in England, it would be in Stones, while the rest of the world would measure weight in Kilograms.So much for standardization.73,Don W3FPR On 6/22/2014 6:43 PM, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft wrote: In High School, 1953 to 1958, I was introduced to the Metric System in Chemistry and Physics. I thought WOW, what a system, I can soon forget the obsolete feet, inches, Fahrenheit stuff and use a system that makes sense. In college in Engineering School I used mostly the Metric system which confirmed that we could soon forget the English System of Measurements. In 1978 when I worked in Scotland, I found that even the English did not use the English system and were converting to Metric. I checked and only the United States, Burma and Liberia still used the English system. I worked nearly 50 years using the English System that even the English found too difficult. Now, I am retired and we are still trying to hold on to the obsolete system of measurements. Even QST gave up on it 40 years ago! Enough! It is time for the USA to quit fighting the rest of the world and switch to Metric __Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to wrco...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- totally off topic
Fred wrote: “It took awhile for my knower to know what a kilometer was without translating to miles, but it did, and now I just know what a kilometer is, same for meters, centimeters and millimeters. I know how hot my KPA500 is when it says 60C.” Exactly, Fred!!! Great concept. It’s not much different than learning a new language…or morse code for that matter. At first, everything is translated back to your native language and then to thoughts. Eventually your “knower” translates the words (or morse sounds) directly to thoughts, bypassing the translation to your native language. Suddenly it is all much simpler, but if we aren’t willing to put forth a little effort, it never gets easy. As I said earlier, learn, learn, learn. It is good for you. Oh, I almost forgot. I run my KX3 at about 4 lbf. ft. / sec. ;-) Mark ars: KE6BB Fluent in imperial measure, metric measure, and Morse code. From: Fred Jensen Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 05:23 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Since Eric seems to be on vacation or otherwise indisposed ... With full credit to Richmond Johnson, a colleague at work and retired USAF Col, I think the problem with going metric is that we all have a Knower inside our head, as he said... __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- totally off topic
Hi Willis, Whitworth is not dead yet!!I believe it is still used on cameras for the tripod mount. Want a mess to play with... My 79 Triumph motorcycle used metric, our UNC/UNF threads and Whitworth on it. Need 3 tool boxes out.. 73, Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) K2TKR On 6/22/2014 10:14 PM, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft wrote: My remarks, while true were mostly tongue in cheek because someone wanted Elecraft to use measurements in Fahrenheit instead of Celsius. Electronics is the one area in the US where metric is usually used. Hams of all people need to have their knower bilingual since we converse with the world and most of the world uses metric. In 1978 I lived in Scotland for a while on a job and they were reluctantly for some converting to 100 pence to the pound sterling, litres for liquid sales such as gasoline and milk and weights were in grams or kilos. People would tell you their weight in stones, but I expect their doctors kept their weight in kilos. A big problem with conversion, particularly in my industry which was oil and gas is engineers who do not want to change. The thing that amuses me is that I have been wanting to go metric since I was 15 or 16 and I am now 73 and we have not made it yet. I think it is about time to give up. But I still need two sets of tools to work on my car. At least screwdrivers, pliers and Cresent wrenches are not metric and English. At least Whitworth is out except for British antiques. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart On Sunday, June 22, 2014 6:01 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Well, that may be more possible than many years ago when a switch to metric was proposed. At that time, the machine tool industry was well invested in the English system for such things as screw threads and such. Now that the automotive industry uses mostly metric hardware, the switch may be easier than it was 'back then'.I think the main stumbling block right now is a 'consumer attitude' in the US that thinks in the English system.I can go to the hardware store and buy Metric fasteners, no problem, so in terms of hardware availability, no problem exists - I think the major problem is in the minds of the US consumers who are well indoctrinated into the English system of weights and measures.Even at that, it is not entirely English - my weight is in Pounds, but in England, it would be in Stones, while the rest of the world would measure weight in Kilograms.So much for standardization.73,Don W3FPR On 6/22/2014 6:43 PM, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft wrote: In High School, 1953 to 1958, I was introduced to the Metric System in Chemistry and Physics. I thought WOW, what a system, I can soon forget the obsolete feet, inches, Fahrenheit stuff and use a system that makes sense. In college in Engineering School I used mostly the Metric system which confirmed that we could soon forget the English System of Measurements. In 1978 when I worked in Scotland, I found that even the English did not use the English system and were converting to Metric. I checked and only the United States, Burma and Liberia still used the English system. I worked nearly 50 years using the English System that even the English found too difficult. Now, I am retired and we are still trying to hold on to the obsolete system of measurements. Even QST gave up on it 40 years ago! Enough! It is time for the USA to quit fighting the rest of the world and switch to Metric __Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to wrco...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@att.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Way OT - The Metric System is Inevitable
Three of the more important aspects of my life already are metric - healthcare (dosages are are almost universally in mg/l and many infusions are calculated in mg per meter of body surface squared); bicycling (even American-made frames use hex bolts measured in mm); and wine (a quarto is 250 ml, a bottle is 750 ml). The other stuff, like engineering, will eventually catch up. On the other hand, the legal system is still rather British. Ted, KN1CBR (enjoying a quarto) Message: 22 Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 18:51:43 -0400 From: Bruce Beford bef...@myfairpoint.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] temperature sensors and convert -- totally off Message-ID: 12D663FC375E4C44B2A966F9033F1805@HPE250f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The United States is being dragged from Imperial measurements to the Metric System- Inch by Inch. 8) Bruce/N1RX (Enjoying a pint...) Enough! It is time for the USA to quit fighting the rest of the world and switch to Metric __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] 60-Meter Frequencies
60-Meter Operation with the K3: Thanks to all those who responded to my need for help to be sure I have the 60-Meter frequencies and operating setup with the K3 correct. Really appreciate all the effort! 73 Bob W1XT Sun City West, AZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Way OT - The Metric System is Inevitable
ER... um... ah... I have nothing to add to the metric system deal...BUT AS LONG AS EVERYONE IS OFF TOPIC and saying what they are imbibing this evening, I might as well join in, MAKE A TOAST AND DRINK to everybody's good health ! Thus, I am enjoying a double shot of superb George T. Stagg Straight Ky Bourbon, uncut, unfiltered, barrel proofed at 142.6, dumped and directly hand bottled, hand labeled, and ... oh... so good, with lush toffee sweetness and overlaying dark chocolate, with hints of vanilla, nougat and molasses. Underlying notes of dates, tobacco, dark berries, spearmint and a hint of coffee round out the palate. Mmmm so smooth and good. So, good health, peace and prosperity to all! (whereupon he sips a wee bit of the bronze colored nectar, and heaves a heavy sigh ...) Ahhh. good stuff. 73 and Good DX to ya. I am SURE Eric will terminate the thread after all this! K8JHR -- On 6/22/2014 11:06 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: Ted, KN1CBR (enjoying a quarto) From: Bruce Beford bef...@myfairpoint.net Bruce/N1RX (Enjoying a pint...) __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
