Re: [Elecraft] "Subject [KX3] Keyport2"

[Cady, Fred]

Hi Tom,
A mating plug for the KXPD3 paddle input connector is 
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/PPPC022LJBN-RC/S-ND/776013.
This is a PC mount  but I would think you could connect wires to it.
Cheers,
Fred KE7X

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> tom and debbie rice
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:29 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] "Subject [KX3] Keyport2"
> 
> I am interested a 4-pin connector for the front "Keyport2." I see that
> Palm Radio has a mounting kit for there Pico key that includes a 4-pin
> connector with a pigtail but you have to the buy the kit which includes
> the mounting plate etc. I would like to be able to connect to both Key
> Ports simultaneously. Has anyone found a supplier the sells the female
> 4-pin plug with a pigtail? I would appreciate any info on suppliers
> including part#, etc.
> Thank you,
> Tom Rice  WB3FAE
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[Elecraft] [KX3] Backlight while charging

[David G4DMP]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but is it possible to turn off the
backlight while using the internal charger to charge the internal
batteries? The backlight is on by default.

It seem a waste having the backlight lit for several hours while
charging and it would be good for it to default to Off.

Tnx es 73 de David G4DMP

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Backlight while charging

[Rijk van Harn]

The last backlight status is maintained during charging.
If the backlight was on it stays on.
If the backlight was off it stays off.

I have not found a other solution.

Rijk de PE1PTJ

2014-11-26 15:52 GMT+01:00 David G4DMP :

> Sorry if this has been asked before, but is it possible to turn off the
> backlight while using the internal charger to charge the internal
> batteries? The backlight is on by default.
>
> It seem a waste having the backlight lit for several hours while
> charging and it would be good for it to default to Off.
>
> Tnx es 73 de David G4DMP
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Backlight while charging

[David G4DMP]

Thank you, Rijk, it is a pity it cannot be forced into the OFF state.

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Rijk van Harn  writes
>The last backlight status is maintained during charging.
>If the backlight was on it stays on.
>If the backlight was off it stays off.
>
>I have not found a other solution.
>
>Rijk de PE1PTJ
>
>2014-11-26 15:52 GMT+01:00 David G4DMP :
>is it possible to turn off
>  the
>  backlight while using the internal charger

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Backlight while charging

[Phil Wheeler]

David,

If you are charging from mains power, why are you 
concerned about the few milli-Amps the backlight 
is consuming?


Phil W7OX

On 11/26/14 8:02 AM, David G4DMP wrote:

Thank you, Rijk, it is a pity it cannot be forced into the OFF state.

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Rijk van Harn  writes

The last backlight status is maintained during charging.
If the backlight was on it stays on.
If the backlight was off it stays off.

I have not found a other solution.

Rijk de PE1PTJ

2014-11-26 15:52 GMT+01:00 David G4DMP :
is it possible to turn off
  the
  backlight while using the internal charger


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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Backlight while charging

[Mark via Elecraft]

David,


The backlight follows the Menu>BKLIGHT setting no matter what you are doing.  
Just go to Menu>BKLIGHT and select OFF.  You can do this even while you are 
charging.  If you shut your KX3 off during charging, you can still restart the 
KX3, go to Menu>BKLIGHT, and then select OFF and backlight will turn off and 
will stay off.  NONE of these actions interrupt the charge cycle.


Mark

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 plus N1MM logger in CW

[DL6OAP]

Hi all,

Many thanks to all who replied. I updated N1MM logger to the most recent
version, re-edited the macros in the manner described by K4MTX in his blog
(who did it for the KX3) and it seems to work with the K2 as well.

There seems to be enough space in the connectors of the "pseudo-serial"
cable for the one-transistor keying circuit, so I will add it to the cable
later and see how well this works - with the system sounds off.

I hope, I have the date right - happy Thanksgving!

Greetings

Ralf, DL 6OAP




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Re: [Elecraft] K2 plus N1MM logger in CW

[Pete Smith N4ZR]

One of the N1MM+ developers solved a CW stutter problem today for one of 
our users, which was caused by latency in a USB-to-serial adapter.  The 
solution was to make sure you're using an FTDI adapter, and go direct to 
the manufacturer for the latest version of the driver.


73, Pete N4ZR
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On 11/25/2014 2:58 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

Thanks. I'll try that.

73, Jim

On Tue,11/25/2014 10:51 AM, Chester Alderman wrote:
This is one of the very few times I have to disagree with Jim! N1MM 
and NL+

keys my K3 flawlessly up to about 95 wpm. Having been a QRQ operator,
running speeds up to 120 wpm, stuttering CW is something I just can't 
stand.
If one is using the Windows operating system, YOU MUST GO INTO THE 
OPERATING

SYSTEM AND TURN OFF WINDOWS GENERATED SOUNDS!!


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[Elecraft] K3 and palstar AT-AUTO

[DGB]

Anyone using a K3 with the Palstar AT-AUTO antenna tuner. How do you 
hook it up? A y-cable? I don't want to lose rig control.



73 Dwight NS9I


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Timekeeping

[Arlen Fletcher]

Thanks Wayne, Bill and Willis for your replies. 

I suppose the battery could be bad - but this has been a consistent problem 
since I assembled the Unit back in March. Could’ve been a bad battery out of 
the box I suppose.

Willis - thanks for the perspective! Times have indeed changed (pun intended). 
I haven’t been accused of being young in quite some time! ;-)

Wayne - I’ll check w/ customer support and see what they have to say.

73 all, and have a great Thanksgiving!

Arlen, AA7F


> On Nov 25, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Arlen Fletcher  wrote:
> 
> My K3's clock loses about 15 seconds per day. It's not a big deal because 
> it's easy to update from the K3 utility, but 15 seconds seems like quite a 
> bit. Maybe my expectations are too high?
> 
> 73
> 
> Arlen, AA7F

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Timekeeping

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

In general, we have seen a variance of this amount on the clock since we first 
started shipping K3s. Its in the normal range.


Regards,

Eric
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On 11/26/2014 1:53 PM, Arlen Fletcher wrote:

Thanks Wayne, Bill and Willis for your replies.

I suppose the battery could be bad - but this has been a consistent problem 
since I assembled the Unit back in March. Could’ve been a bad battery out of 
the box I suppose.

Willis - thanks for the perspective! Times have indeed changed (pun intended). 
I haven’t been accused of being young in quite some time! ;-)

Wayne - I’ll check w/ customer support and see what they have to say.

73 all, and have a great Thanksgiving!

Arlen, AA7F



On Nov 25, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Arlen Fletcher  wrote:

My K3's clock loses about 15 seconds per day. It's not a big deal because it's 
easy to update from the K3 utility, but 15 seconds seems like quite a bit. 
Maybe my expectations are too high?

73

Arlen, AA7F

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Timekeeping

[Arlen Fletcher]

OK - Thanks Eric.  Is there nothing the end-user can do to improve things - 
such as leaving power applied to the K3, etc?

Arlen


> On Nov 26, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> In general, we have seen a variance of this amount on the clock since we 
> first started shipping K3s. Its in the normal range.
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Eric
> elecraft.com
> 
> On 11/26/2014 1:53 PM, Arlen Fletcher wrote:
>> Thanks Wayne, Bill and Willis for your replies. 
>> 
>> I suppose the battery could be bad - but this has been a consistent problem 
>> since I assembled the Unit back in March. Could’ve been a bad battery out of 
>> the box I suppose.
>> 
>> Willis - thanks for the perspective! Times have indeed changed (pun 
>> intended). I haven’t been accused of being young in quite some time! ;-)
>> 
>> Wayne - I’ll check w/ customer support and see what they have to say.
>> 
>> 73 all, and have a great Thanksgiving!
>> 
>> Arlen, AA7F
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Arlen Fletcher  
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My K3's clock loses about 15 seconds per day. It's not a big deal because 
>>> it's easy to update from the K3 utility, but 15 seconds seems like quite a 
>>> bit. Maybe my expectations are too high?
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> 
>>> Arlen, AA7F
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Timekeeping

[Phil Wheeler]

I bought a big La Crosse wall clock that updates 
from WWV each night. Very easy to read and always 
accurate. I never look at the clock in the K2, KX3 
and K3.


Adding circuitry in the K3 to update its clock in 
a similar fashion might be doable, but not by me 
-- yet :-)


73, Phil W7OX

On 11/26/14 2:36 PM, Arlen Fletcher wrote:

OK - Thanks Eric.  Is there nothing the end-user can do to improve things - 
such as leaving power applied to the K3, etc?

Arlen



On Nov 26, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft  
wrote:

In general, we have seen a variance of this amount on the clock since we first 
started shipping K3s. Its in the normal range.

Regards,

Eric
elecraft.com

On 11/26/2014 1:53 PM, Arlen Fletcher wrote:

Thanks Wayne, Bill and Willis for your replies.

I suppose the battery could be bad - but this has been a consistent problem 
since I assembled the Unit back in March. Could’ve been a bad battery out of 
the box I suppose.

Willis - thanks for the perspective! Times have indeed changed (pun intended). 
I haven’t been accused of being young in quite some time! ;-)

Wayne - I’ll check w/ customer support and see what they have to say.

73 all, and have a great Thanksgiving!

Arlen, AA7F



On Nov 25, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Arlen Fletcher  
 wrote:

My K3's clock loses about 15 seconds per day. It's not a big deal because it's 
easy to update from the K3 utility, but 15 seconds seems like quite a bit. 
Maybe my expectations are too high?

73

Arlen, AA7F


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[Elecraft] re K3 timekeeping

[Roger Crofts]

My K3 clock loses about 9 seconds per day. This is not quite as bad as Arlen's 
clock, but it is still annoying. I run quite a few skeds and nets and I like to 
be spot on time.

Dear Wayne, are you listening? We need your help to write a little routine that 
goes like this:-
When the K3 powers up, it reads an eeprom location which stores the last 
turn-on time. It calculates how long ago that was from the present time. It 
reads the correction factor in tenths of seconds per 24 hours from another 
eeprom location. It calculates the correction required in tenths of a second 
and updates the clock accordingly. It stores the tenths of seconds remainder in 
another location ready to be taken into account in the next calculation. 
Finally it updates the last turn-on time. Of course you will realize that an 
extra menu item will also be needed, so users can enter their clock correction 
factor. A single byte can store a correction factor from -12.7 to +12.7 seconds 
per 24 hours.
With this software addition, the K3 will become a superb chronometer. Perhaps 
once a year the user will need to tweak the correction factor to allow for 
crystal aging in the real-time clock.

73 Roger, VK4YB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Timekeeping

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Not that I can think of. The battery keeps it running when power is removed and 
its not particularly voltage sensitive.


Swapping the crystal for the clock might change it a bit, but of course that 
could also go in the wrong direction.


73,
Eric
elecraft.com

On 11/26/2014 2:36 PM, Arlen Fletcher wrote:

OK - Thanks Eric.  Is there nothing the end-user can do to improve things - 
such as leaving power applied to the K3, etc?

Arlen



On Nov 26, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft  
wrote:

In general, we have seen a variance of this amount on the clock since we first 
started shipping K3s. Its in the normal range.

Regards,

Eric
elecraft.com

On 11/26/2014 1:53 PM, Arlen Fletcher wrote:

Thanks Wayne, Bill and Willis for your replies.

I suppose the battery could be bad - but this has been a consistent problem 
since I assembled the Unit back in March. Could’ve been a bad battery out of 
the box I suppose.

Willis - thanks for the perspective! Times have indeed changed (pun intended). 
I haven’t been accused of being young in quite some time! ;-)

Wayne - I’ll check w/ customer support and see what they have to say.

73 all, and have a great Thanksgiving!

Arlen, AA7F



On Nov 25, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Arlen Fletcher  
 wrote:

My K3's clock loses about 15 seconds per day. It's not a big deal because it's 
easy to update from the K3 utility, but 15 seconds seems like quite a bit. 
Maybe my expectations are too high?

73
Arlen, AA7F

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 plus N1MM logger in CW

[Chester Alderman]

Also there was a note on NL+ reflector suggesting that when using a
USB/Serial adapter as the interface between the PC and the radio, one should
change some parameters. 
Open Windows Device Manager and select the Ports (COM & LPT), select your
COM port, then Port Settings, then Advanced. Change both Rx and Tx (Bytes)
to 64. Then drop down to Latency Timer and set that to 1ms.
Unfortunately I don't recall who posted this information, but it is supposed
to make your USB/Serial adapter function faster.

73,
Tom - W4BQF


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Smith N4ZR
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 4:40 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 plus N1MM logger in CW

One of the N1MM+ developers solved a CW stutter problem today for one of our
users, which was caused by latency in a USB-to-serial adapter.  The solution
was to make sure you're using an FTDI adapter, and go direct to the
manufacturer for the latest version of the driver.

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
http://reversebeacon.net,
blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
For spots, please go to your favorite
ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.

On 11/25/2014 2:58 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> Thanks. I'll try that.
>
> 73, Jim
>
> On Tue,11/25/2014 10:51 AM, Chester Alderman wrote:
>> This is one of the very few times I have to disagree with Jim! N1MM 
>> and NL+ keys my K3 flawlessly up to about 95 wpm. Having been a QRQ 
>> operator, running speeds up to 120 wpm, stuttering CW is something I 
>> just can't stand.
>> If one is using the Windows operating system, YOU MUST GO INTO THE 
>> OPERATING SYSTEM AND TURN OFF WINDOWS GENERATED SOUNDS!!
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[Elecraft] K3 Timekeeping

[Rose]

Every room here has a 60 kHZ-synched WWVB clock.  Have never looked at ...
or set ... the clocks in my K3 or KX3.  Or the K2 if it has one.  We have
an actual clock radio in the bedroom.  (;-)

Trivia:  The 60 kHZ xmtr NE of Fort Collins is a "retired" 100 kHZ LORAN C
xmtr from ND.

The last time I was there the 20 kHZ xmtr was an UGLY blue thing that had
been hand-painted with a brush.

73

Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Timekeeping

[Arlen Fletcher]

Phil - apparently I’m not finding the right model of LaCrosse clocks! Those 
that I’ve looked at that update via WWV cannot be set to GMT!! I even asked 
their support folks about it.

73, Arlen AA7F


> On Nov 26, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:
> 
> I bought a big La Crosse wall clock that updates from WWV each night. Very 
> easy to read and always accurate. I never look at the clock in the K2, KX3 
> and K3.
> 
> Adding circuitry in the K3 to update its clock in a similar fashion might be 
> doable, but not by me -- yet :-)
> 
> 73, Phil W7OX
> 
> On 11/26/14 2:36 PM, Arlen Fletcher wrote:
>> OK - Thanks Eric.  Is there nothing the end-user can do to improve things - 
>> such as leaving power applied to the K3, etc?
>> 
>> Arlen
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 26, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In general, we have seen a variance of this amount on the clock since we 
>>> first started shipping K3s. Its in the normal range.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> elecraft.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/26/2014 1:53 PM, Arlen Fletcher wrote:
 Thanks Wayne, Bill and Willis for your replies.
 
 I suppose the battery could be bad - but this has been a consistent 
 problem since I assembled the Unit back in March. Could’ve been a bad 
 battery out of the box I suppose.
 
 Willis - thanks for the perspective! Times have indeed changed (pun 
 intended). I haven’t been accused of being young in quite some time! ;-)
 
 Wayne - I’ll check w/ customer support and see what they have to say.
 
 73 all, and have a great Thanksgiving!
 
 Arlen, AA7F
 
 
> On Nov 25, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Arlen Fletcher  
>  wrote:
> 
> My K3's clock loses about 15 seconds per day. It's not a big deal because 
> it's easy to update from the K3 utility, but 15 seconds seems like quite 
> a bit. Maybe my expectations are too high?
> 
> 73
> 
> Arlen, AA7F
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Timekeeping

[Mike Harris]

We don't do time changes here any more, always daylight saving time. 
Last time I reset the clock in the car was four years ago.  It's 
currently 10 seconds slow.


Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 26/11/2014 20:25, Rose wrote:

Every room here has a 60 kHZ-synched WWVB clock.  Have never looked at ...
or set ... the clocks in my K3 or KX3.  Or the K2 if it has one.  We have
an actual clock radio in the bedroom.  (;-)

Trivia:  The 60 kHZ xmtr NE of Fort Collins is a "retired" 100 kHZ LORAN C
xmtr from ND.

The last time I was there the 20 kHZ xmtr was an UGLY blue thing that had
been hand-painted with a brush.

73

Ken Kopp - K0PP

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[Elecraft] OT: 60 kHZ-synched clocks

[Ken G Kopp]

The clocks here are SkyScan's from Walmart.  They can be set to display
either 12 or 24 hour formats.  The BR  clock ... with large 7-segment (red)
display ... is from Radio Scrap and can also be either format.

73

Ken Kopp - K0PP
On Nov 26, 2014 4:36 PM, "Arlen Fletcher"  wrote:

> Phil - apparently I’m not finding the right model of LaCrosse clocks!
> Those that I’ve looked at that update via WWV cannot be set to GMT!! I even
> asked their support folks about it.
>
> 73, Arlen AA7F
>
>
> > On Nov 26, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:
> >
> > I bought a big La Crosse wall clock that updates from WWV each night.
> Very easy to read and always accurate. I never look at the clock in the K2,
> KX3 and K3.
> >
> > Adding circuitry in the K3 to update its clock in a similar fashion
> might be doable, but not by me -- yet :-)
> >
> > 73, Phil W7OX
> >
> > On 11/26/14 2:36 PM, Arlen Fletcher wrote:
> >> OK - Thanks Eric.  Is there nothing the end-user can do to improve
> things - such as leaving power applied to the K3, etc?
> >>
> >> Arlen
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 26, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <
> e...@elecraft.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> In general, we have seen a variance of this amount on the clock since
> we first started shipping K3s. Its in the normal range.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Eric
> >>> elecraft.com
> >>>
> >>> On 11/26/2014 1:53 PM, Arlen Fletcher wrote:
>  Thanks Wayne, Bill and Willis for your replies.
> 
>  I suppose the battery could be bad - but this has been a consistent
> problem since I assembled the Unit back in March. Could’ve been a bad
> battery out of the box I suppose.
> 
>  Willis - thanks for the perspective! Times have indeed changed (pun
> intended). I haven’t been accused of being young in quite some time! ;-)
> 
>  Wayne - I’ll check w/ customer support and see what they have to say.
> 
>  73 all, and have a great Thanksgiving!
> 
>  Arlen, AA7F
> 
> 
> > On Nov 25, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Arlen Fletcher 
>  wrote:
> >
> > My K3's clock loses about 15 seconds per day. It's not a big deal
> because it's easy to update from the K3 utility, but 15 seconds seems like
> quite a bit. Maybe my expectations are too high?
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Arlen, AA7F
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Re: [Elecraft] re K3 timekeeping

[Don Wilhelm]

This is beginning to sound like the saying that the man with two 
wristwatches never knows what time it is.  Pick a 'time standard' that 
is appropriate for you - Cellphone time or Atomic clock as your time for 
skeds (those are quite accurate) as well as the time standard from WWV.  
The K3 clock can be reserved for those times when access to those other 
time standard sources are not available (such as Field Day and other 
similar occasions).


The K3 RTC depends on the crystal and the associated capacitors.  It is 
not a precision device, but is more than sufficient for logging purposes 
for outings where it is the main source of time stamping - assuming it 
is set correct at the beginning of the outing.


My Timex watch seems to be quite accurate - I have not had to reset it 
in the last 3 months!  In other words, I would not depend on the clock 
in the K3, KX3 or the K2 to be more accurate than my Timex. The need for 
time precision to the second is overrated IMHO - logging QSOs to the 
nearest minute seems to be acceptable, accuracy to the second is not 
required for logging purposes.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/26/2014 6:01 PM, Roger Crofts wrote:

My K3 clock loses about 9 seconds per day. This is not quite as bad as Arlen's 
clock, but it is still annoying. I run quite a few skeds and nets and I like to 
be spot on time.




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[Elecraft] OT: 24 HR stand-alone shack clocks

[Ken G Kopp]

I have a couple of JAMECO kit 24 HR clocks with 1" 7-segment red display.
They aren't WWVB-synched.

73

Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Elecraft] Free wire

[David Christ]

I have many thousands of feet of new Cat 5 and Cat 5e that I will give away for 
the shipping.  Full boxes and part boxes.  Also lots of used as well.  In 
addition have Cat 3, miniature coax, other shielded twisted pair etc.  Mostly 
new. 

If there is enough interest I will make a list of what I have.  I am trying to 
clean out my storage buildings and find trying to sell things is to much 
trouble for the return.  Much easier to give it away.  Then if no one is 
interested it goes to the dump.

Shipping via Priority mail can be pretty cheap.

David  K0LUM
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 plus N1MM logger in CW

[Jim Brown]

On Wed,11/26/2014 1:40 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
One of the N1MM+ developers solved a CW stutter problem today for one 
of our users, which was caused by latency in a USB-to-serial adapter.  
The solution was to make sure you're using an FTDI adapter, and go 
direct to the manufacturer for the latest version of the driver. 


Thanks Pete. I'm using real hardware serial ports, usually provided by a 
Quatech 2-port PCMCIA adapter that I've used for nearly 10 years. I also 
use hardware serial ports located in docking stations for Thinkpad laptops.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] re K3 timekeeping

[Bill Frantz]

To continue dreaming: Since the K3 is a wide band receiver, it 
could also automatically update itself from WWV/CHU/etc.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 11/27/14 at 3:01 PM, ro...@monitorsensors.com (Roger Crofts) wrote:


Dear Wayne, are you listening? We need your help to write a little routine that 
goes like this:-
When the K3 powers up, it reads an eeprom location which stores 
the last turn-on time. It calculates how long ago that was from 
the present time. It reads the correction factor in tenths of 
seconds per 24 hours from another eeprom location. It 
calculates the correction required in tenths of a second and 
updates the clock accordingly. It stores the tenths of seconds 
remainder in another location ready to be taken into account in 
the next calculation. Finally it updates the last turn-on time. 
Of course you will realize that an extra menu item will also be 
needed, so users can enter their clock correction factor. A 
single byte can store a correction factor from -12.7 to +12.7 
seconds per 24 hours.
With this software addition, the K3 will become a superb 
chronometer. Perhaps once a year the user will need to tweak 
the correction factor to allow for crystal aging in the 
real-time clock.

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[Elecraft] OT: Last post on time subject

[Ken G Kopp]

The time displayed on cell phones is probably the most accurate that's
available to most of us.  It's synched to the satellite system which is
synched to the NBS cesium standard in Boulder.

73

Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Timekeeping

[Phil Wheeler]

Arien,

This is the one I have. It does set to GMT.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/BVYIZC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

73, Phil W7OX

On 11/26/14 3:35 PM, Arlen Fletcher wrote:

Phil - apparently I’m not finding the right model of LaCrosse clocks! Those 
that I’ve looked at that update via WWV cannot be set to GMT!! I even asked 
their support folks about it.

73, Arlen AA7F



On Nov 26, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:

I bought a big La Crosse wall clock that updates from WWV each night. Very easy 
to read and always accurate. I never look at the clock in the K2, KX3 and K3.

Adding circuitry in the K3 to update its clock in a similar fashion might be 
doable, but not by me -- yet :-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 11/26/14 2:36 PM, Arlen Fletcher wrote:

OK - Thanks Eric.  Is there nothing the end-user can do to improve things - 
such as leaving power applied to the K3, etc?

Arlen



On Nov 26, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft  
wrote:

In general, we have seen a variance of this amount on the clock since we first 
started shipping K3s. Its in the normal range.

Regards,

Eric
elecraft.com

On 11/26/2014 1:53 PM, Arlen Fletcher wrote:

Thanks Wayne, Bill and Willis for your replies.

I suppose the battery could be bad - but this has been a consistent problem 
since I assembled the Unit back in March. Could’ve been a bad battery out of 
the box I suppose.

Willis - thanks for the perspective! Times have indeed changed (pun intended). 
I haven’t been accused of being young in quite some time! ;-)

Wayne - I’ll check w/ customer support and see what they have to say.

73 all, and have a great Thanksgiving!

Arlen, AA7F



On Nov 25, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Arlen Fletcher  
 wrote:

My K3's clock loses about 15 seconds per day. It's not a big deal because it's 
easy to update from the K3 utility, but 15 seconds seems like quite a bit. 
Maybe my expectations are too high?

73

Arlen, AA7F

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Re: [Elecraft] re K3 timekeeping

[Phil Wheeler]

My watch is a Casio Pathfinder (barometer, 
altimeter, compass, and even keeps time!). It gets 
updated every night via Colo WWV station -- unless 
I turn on my TV converter from Time-Warner; then 
it does not update, even if the converter is 10 ft 
away.


Phil W7OX

On 11/26/14 3:54 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
This is beginning to sound like the saying that 
the man with two wristwatches never knows what 
time it is.  Pick a 'time standard' that is 
appropriate for you - Cellphone time or Atomic 
clock as your time for skeds (those are quite 
accurate) as well as the time standard from 
WWV.  The K3 clock can be reserved for those 
times when access to those other time standard 
sources are not available (such as Field Day and 
other similar occasions).


The K3 RTC depends on the crystal and the 
associated capacitors. It is not a precision 
device, but is more than sufficient for logging 
purposes for outings where it is the main source 
of time stamping - assuming it is set correct at 
the beginning of the outing.


My Timex watch seems to be quite accurate - I 
have not had to reset it in the last 3 months!  
In other words, I would not depend on the clock 
in the K3, KX3 or the K2 to be more accurate 
than my Timex. The need for time precision to 
the second is overrated IMHO - logging QSOs to 
the nearest minute seems to be acceptable, 
accuracy to the second is not required for 
logging purposes.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/26/2014 6:01 PM, Roger Crofts wrote:
My K3 clock loses about 9 seconds per day. This 
is not quite as bad as Arlen's clock, but it is 
still annoying. I run quite a few skeds and 
nets and I like to be spot on time.


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: 24 HR stand-alone shack clocks

[Bob]

I built my own 24 hr dual zone station clock.  It uses a WiFi link to keep
synchronized time.  Never have to set it and always accurate.

Details:   http://wb4son.com/wpblog/?page_id=716

73, Bib, WB4SON




On Wednesday, November 26, 2014, Ken G Kopp  wrote:

> I have a couple of JAMECO kit 24 HR clocks with 1" 7-segment red display.
> They aren't WWVB-synched.
>
> 73
>
> Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: 60 kHZ-synched clocks

[Phil Kane]

On 11/26/2014 3:48 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

> The clocks here are SkyScan's from Walmart.  They can be set to display
> either 12 or 24 hour formats.  The BR  clock ... with large 7-segment (red)
> display ... is from Radio Scrap and can also be either format.

Unless things have changed in clock design in the past 2 or 3 years,
"WWVB" clocks don't sync here.  I suspect not enough signal in a
ground-floor frame building even on the wall facing south.

I have investigated an ethernet-synced digital wall clock and they
aren't cheap by any means, well into three figures for a single-color
one displaying HH:MM:SS readable across the room.  My dream would be one
with normal yellow color that turned red during the 15-18 minute and
45-48 minute parts of each hour and green during the 0-3 minute and
30-33 minute parts of each hour.  Any old shipboard brass pounders will
recall why! :)

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
T2-0208
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Timekeeping

[David Orman]

I'm feeling lucky (quite rare). My KX3 (just checked) was ~20s off my NTP
synced computers, and I set it about 3 months ago. I suppose it will drift
more over time, but it sounds like there is variance that exists between
units. How much do these clocks change over time in terms of
cycles/accuracy? I'm not familiar with crystal based clocks and their
operation by any means, hence the question, as reading some responses it
sounds like it will change.

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> This is an unusual amount of error; it's typically more like +/- 1 or 2
> seconds/day. This may have come up in customer support, so I'd check there
> first. I would suspect either the crystal or one of its associated
> capacitors.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
>
>
>
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>
> > My K3's clock loses about 15 seconds per day. It's not a big deal
> because it's easy to update from the K3 utility, but 15 seconds seems like
> quite a bit. Maybe my expectations are too high?
> >
> > 73
> >
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[Elecraft] OT: K3 timekeeping

[Fred Jensen]

Next time you have little or nothing to do, and have a P3, set the span 
to about 10 KHz, go to AM, and center any of the WWV's in the display. 
You *should* see:


1.  The carrier

2.  The 100 Hz subcarrier around it that carries the IRIG-H time code

3.  The pair of tone sidebands [if the tone is on].

What you *will* see depends on which WWV you're tuned to.  If it's 2.5 
or 20 MHz, the above pretty well describes the display.   If it's 5, 10, 
or 15 MHz, you will see:


1.  The carrier

2.  The 100 Hz IRIG-H subcarrier

3.  The pair of tone sidebands

4.  The second and third harmonics of the tones, maybe the fourth 
harmonic depending on conditions and strength of the signal at your QTH


5.  The 100 Hz IRIG-H subcarrier around the pair of tone sidebands and 
all the harmonics.


There is a single combined baseband that feeds all transmitters. 
Apparently, the 2.5 and 20 MHz transmitters are low level modulated with 
linear amplification.  The other three appear to be plate modulated 
class C PA's right out of the hamshacks of the 50's.


The difference is striking and surprising.  I've always thought NIST was 
the Gold Standard.  With a single tone modulating my K3 in AM, I see the 
carrier, the two sidebands, and essentially nothing else on a spectrum 
analyzer.  I sent screen shots and an explanation to WWV, and asked them 
about the transmitters.  The reply said, "We're pretty sure we're on 
frequency."


I have an extra Hamstack Microchip 18F46K22 CPU here looking for a 
project.  Maybe an outboard WWV [or WWVB] timecode demodulator that sets 
the K3 time [I assume that's possible via serial commands, didn't look].


73,

Fred K6DGW
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On 11/26/2014 4:15 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

My watch is a Casio Pathfinder (barometer, altimeter, compass, and even
keeps time!). It gets updated every night via Colo WWV station -- unless
I turn on my TV converter from Time-Warner; then it does not update,
even if the converter is 10 ft away.




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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Noise Pattern

[Rick Tavan]

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[Elecraft] LaCrosse Tehcnology UTC Clocks.

[k...@juno.com]

WT-8005 cannot be set to UTC.
  Bought a pair on Amazon.


 WS-8115U can be set to UTC.
  Bought another pair on Amazon to replace the ones that didn't "do" UTC.  HI!!

I chose this style as the numerals are @1.75" high and easy to read at a 
distance.

72,

Tim  K3HX


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Re: [Elecraft] LaCrosse Tehcnology UTC Clocks.

[Richard Solomon]

Take a look at the MFJ-121B, Dual Display, GMT and US Time.

73, Dick, W1KSZ


On 11/26/2014 9:18 PM, k...@juno.com wrote:

WT-8005 cannot be set to UTC.
   Bought a pair on Amazon.


  WS-8115U can be set to UTC.
   Bought another pair on Amazon to replace the ones that didn't "do" UTC.  HI!!

I chose this style as the numerals are @1.75" high and easy to read at a 
distance.

72,

Tim  K3HX


Odd Trick Fights Diabetes
"Unique" Proven Method To Control Blood Sugar In 3 Weeks. Watch Video.
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5476a64a329c5264a1749st04duc
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: K3 timekeeping

[Jim Brown]

On Wed,11/26/2014 4:54 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
The second and third harmonics of the tones, maybe the fourth harmonic 
depending on conditions and strength of the signal at your QTH 


How far down were the harmonics? -40 is 1% distortion, -50 is 0.32%. 5% 
is widely considered to be "communications quality."


When I've listened to WWV (not often), I hear distortion. They're a 
Standard for Frequency and Time, not high futility. :)


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] LaCrosse Tehcnology UTC Clocks.

[Eric Norris]

And while you take a look at it, be prepared to go crosseyed wondering why the 
seconds on the GMT clock do not match the seconds on the local time clock more 
than 30% of the time, even though both clocks show they are receiving WWVB 
signals.  

:-) and 73,

Eric WD6DBM

Richard Solomon  wrote:

>Take a look at the MFJ-121B, Dual Display, GMT and US Time.
>
>73, Dick, W1KSZ
>
>
>On 11/26/2014 9:18 PM, k...@juno.com wrote:
>> WT-8005 cannot be set to UTC.
>>Bought a pair on Amazon.
>>
>>
>>   WS-8115U can be set to UTC.
>>Bought another pair on Amazon to replace the ones that didn't "do" UTC.  
>> HI!!
>>
>> I chose this style as the numerals are @1.75" high and easy to read at a 
>> distance.
>>
>> 72,
>>
>> Tim  K3HX
>>
>> 
>> Odd Trick Fights Diabetes
>> "Unique" Proven Method To Control Blood Sugar In 3 Weeks. Watch 
>> Video.
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5476a64a329c5264a1749st04duc
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[Elecraft] KX3 ATU no go

[Chris Meagher]

Have installed internal ATU into KX3, RX is good, menu set to AUTO
ATU appears on the display,
but when I press ATU TUNE, I get message NO ATU.
L&C checks produce relay clicks
Ideas anyone?
All pins checked inserted properly, full ESD precautions on installation.

Chris
VK2ACD
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