Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Jim Lowman]

It seems to me that, if the calculated weight of the shipment exceeds 
the limit for First Class Mail, the option could be "grayed out" or a 
message to that effect could be displayed next to the "Shipped to you 
via:" field.  Also, when First Class Mail is the chosen option, it does 
say "Small Parts, USA ONLY, 14 Oz. Max."


Even if Elecraft contracts for web development, they certainly can press 
the developer(s) for such an option.


73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 8/31/2015 1:02 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

Definitely not "just as easy" if the field is supposed to be a number.

The right way to code this is to eliminate First Class Mail as an option
when the weight goes over 14 oz.

Whoever wrote the shopping cart on the web site didn't really anticipate
some of the very light items that Elecraft sells.  If they don't have
source code (likely) then fixing it could be difficult.

I know, I ran a hosting company and did sites for 25 years.

That said, it seems IOTTMCO that if the shipping charge is $999, one
should explore other options.

73 -- Lynn

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S IMD Questions

[Jim Brown]

On Mon,8/31/2015 10:04 AM, Yngvi (TF3Y) wrote:
Even though I'm personally most interested in CW I wonder if there is 
any recent two tone SSB tests that's been published?


I've published some SSB bandwidth measurements using pink noise as 
excitation. Because pink noise contains all frequencies, the spectra 
resembles music and speech, and is dynamic, it excites IMD in a manner 
comparable to speech.


http://k9yc.com/P3_Spectrum_Measurements.pdf

http://k9yc.com/FTDX5000_Report.pdf

So far, I've measured only a few rigs using pink noise, but of those 
I've measured, I've seen very little difference between them.


On the air is a very different story -- it's VERY common to see 
distortion on SSB signals in the form of both upper and lower sidebands 
on audio peaks. Because it is present in both sidebands, I strongly 
suspect it's caused by power amps that are over-driven, or poorly tuned, 
or improperly biased. We hear it as splatter (sometimes as wide as 10-20 
kHz), and see it on the P3 and horizontal lines corresponding to audio 
peaks.


73, Jim K9YC


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[Elecraft] K2 - intermittant noise on 60 meters

[Hans Bonnesen]

After reinstalling the internal battery in my K2, a new and hitherto never 
heard 
intermittant noise is now heard in display mode.
It appears as one every second.
Could that be noise from the charging circuit 
entering the recently installed KDSP2 unit.
Any clues to this ??

Hans , OZ5RB
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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[John Flynn]

Check out USPS Flat Rate Priority. A small box is only $5.05 if you print
the label yourself. Medium box is about $15.

73,

John K4ARQ

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Barry  wrote:

> Tnx for all the replies, including the amusing ones (of which I expected a
> few)  :-)
>
> I changed the shipping choice to USPS Prio Mail and it worked fine (about
> $12) and it said the package weighs 1.6 lbs.
>
> Yes, shipping is expensive.  Guess the little guys have to subsidize the
> Amazon.com's of the world cheap, high volume rates.
>
> Barry W2UP
>
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[Elecraft] QRQ QSK - specs?

[bruce whitney via Elecraft]

Anyone know? - Does Elecraft offer any specifications for QSK performance?
Perhaps some sort of T/R turnaround time or a claim for some max. WPM with 
acceptible performance?
I've been in discusions with some friends that do QRQ QSK with K3's and the K3s 
- seems to be some slight disappointment.
No problem for me - But I have noticed that my Orion II seems better than my K3 
(with the new Synth) in QSK...
Anything official on this?



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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ QSK - specs?

[Chester Alderman]

What's your call sign and your name? With that info I can tell you my QRQ
test on my K3 at high speeds.

Tom - W4BQF


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whitney via Elecraft
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Subject: [Elecraft] QRQ QSK - specs?

Anyone know? - Does Elecraft offer any specifications for QSK performance?
Perhaps some sort of T/R turnaround time or a claim for some max. WPM with
acceptible performance?
I've been in discusions with some friends that do QRQ QSK with K3's and the
K3s - seems to be some slight disappointment.
No problem for me - But I have noticed that my Orion II seems better than my
K3 (with the new Synth) in QSK...
Anything official on this?



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S IMD Questions

[Yngvi (TF3Y)]

Some time ago I was discussing this with one of the locals who maintained
that the K3 had terrible TX IMD.

I wonder if there are any newer published TX IMD test results?

In any case I guess the K3S has better TX IMD due to the new PA design.

73, Yngvi TF3Y

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Scott Manthe 
wrote:

> Again, the Sherwood TX IMD test that is the basis of the eHam thread is
> almost 7 years old. That problem was fixed long ago, which is why so many
> multi-multi stations and DXpeditions have been using K3s (not K3S's) for
> all of these years. There hasn't really been any concern about the K3's TX
> IMD for quite sometime, except for the occasional eHam troll.
>
> 73,
> Scott N9AA
>
>
> On 8/30/15 11:09 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
>
>> In as much as most multi contest stations use K3 radios and will likely
>> move to K3S radios, there wouldn't seem to be any concerns in this regard.
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>> K3S s/n 10,163
>>
>> On 8/30/2015 9:33 PM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>> I think the report might be a year old.
>>>
>>> I don't place much stock in eHam, most articles are Perception ' based
>>> and I prefer Rob's testing and reports.
>>>
>>> Wayne acknowledged the IMD issue way back when Rob pointed it out, it
>>> was fixed very quickly.
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: "Scott Manthe" 
>>> Sent: ‎31/‎08/‎2015 12:26 PM
>>> To: "ae...@carolinaheli.com" ; "
>>> Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S IMD Questions
>>>
>>> Did you happen to notice that the IMD test that KA4WJA is basing his
>>> thread on is from 2008? Do you think that Elecraft might have made some
>>> improvements to the K3 since then?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Scott N9AA
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S IMD Questions

[Jim Brown]

On Sun,8/30/2015 8:22 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:
Again, the Sherwood TX IMD test that is the basis of the eHam thread 
is almost 7 years old. 


Study k9yc.com/TXNoise.pdf  which is a comparison of ARRL LAb testing of 
popular transceivers, including the K3. Occupied bandwidth of a CW 
signal is an excellent test of IMD, because CW is 100% modulation of a 
carrier by a square wave, whose infinite harmonics excite IMD. The K3 is 
the cleanest of all rigs tested, and it isn't close.


IMD in a K3 is highest at its highest power setting, and is also highest 
with low DC power supply voltage. Unlike many other popular rigs, IMD in 
the K3 gets even better at reduced output power. Most of the better 
power amps require drive power in the range of 30-50 watts, and having a 
clean signal matters most when you're loud in the other guy's RX. :)


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 136, Issue 43

[Thaire Bryant]

As long as it leaves Italy with you you will not have a problem.  In you radio 
case keep copy of CEPT regs, copy of your license, copy of air tickets and copy 
of your passport.  I've done it many times with no issues.

I Amin Korea returning from a month in Australia, Timor L'Este and Indonesia.  
The only issue oh adware totally miserable band conditions.  There were days 
that I could not
Even get a spot on the RBN!

Good luck with the propagation Gods!

Thaire. W2APF



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>  23. K3IOB NF and Sub-receiver Use (Joel Black)
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>  27. Re: New K3s (Bob McGraw - K4TAX)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 09:04:56 -0400
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> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, George Rebong 
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> The normal PC to K2 to KAT100 cable *is* a "Y" cable of sorts, look in 
> the KAT100 manual for the details.
> It is not possible to get it backwards because the PC end has female 
> pins while the KAT100 end has male pins.
> The only "problem" that could occur with a 

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 136, Issue 43

[Thaire Bryant]

I have to disagree, always carry your radio as carry-on and especially LiPo 
batteries.

Last week I had security at Alice Springs look at the X-ray image and say: "I 
see you brought your KX3 with you, I have one too.  I Just need  to check your 
batteries."  

Have fun!

Thaire. W2APF



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>  16. Re: Taking KX3 to Italy on vacation (Peter Lambert)
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>  21. Re: Taking KX3 to Italy on vac number 2 (Ian)
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>  26. Re: new K3S (10195) and audio level drop when KPA500 inOper
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>  27. Re: New K3s (Bob McGraw - K4TAX)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 09:04:56 -0400
> From: Don Wilhelm 
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, George Rebong 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 KIO2 - Serial to USB
> Message-ID: <55e05c78.9020...@embarqmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> The normal PC to K2 to KAT100 cable *is* a "Y" cable of sorts, look in 
> the KAT100 manual for the details.
> It is not possible to get it backwards because the PC end has female 
> pins while the KAT100 end has male pins.
> The only "problem" that could occur with a properly made cable is that 
> the connectors could be swapped between the K2 and the KAT100.
> The connector with 2 cables in it must connect to the K2 - if backwards, 
> the KAT100 

Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

Definitely not "just as easy" if the field is supposed to be a number.

The right way to code this is to eliminate First Class Mail as an option 
when the weight goes over 14 oz.


Whoever wrote the shopping cart on the web site didn't really anticipate 
some of the very light items that Elecraft sells.  If they don't have 
source code (likely) then fixing it could be difficult.


I know, I ran a hosting company and did sites for 25 years.

That said, it seems IOTTMCO that if the shipping charge is $999, one 
should explore other options.


73 -- Lynn

On 8/31/2015 5:36 AM, James Wilson wrote:

This has come up before. Wouldn't it be just as easy to program
the system to say something like "INVALID" RATHER THAN $999.00
to indicate INVALID ?

Jim - W4RKS


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S IMD Questions

[Yngvi (TF3Y)]

Thanks Jim.

I forgot to mention that I was aware of your survey in terms of CW signal
purity.

Even though I'm personally most interested in CW I wonder if there is any
recent two tone SSB tests that's been published?

73, Yngvi TF3Y

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Jim Brown 
wrote:

> On Sun,8/30/2015 8:22 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:
>
>> Again, the Sherwood TX IMD test that is the basis of the eHam thread is
>> almost 7 years old.
>>
>
> Study k9yc.com/TXNoise.pdf  which is a comparison of ARRL LAb testing of
> popular transceivers, including the K3. Occupied bandwidth of a CW signal
> is an excellent test of IMD, because CW is 100% modulation of a carrier by
> a square wave, whose infinite harmonics excite IMD. The K3 is the cleanest
> of all rigs tested, and it isn't close.
>
> IMD in a K3 is highest at its highest power setting, and is also highest
> with low DC power supply voltage. Unlike many other popular rigs, IMD in
> the K3 gets even better at reduced output power. Most of the better power
> amps require drive power in the range of 30-50 watts, and having a clean
> signal matters most when you're loud in the other guy's RX. :)
>
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ QSK - specs?

[Chester Alderman]

Bruce - John - Terry,

Bruce, no problem on signing the post, I just wondered who I would be
talking with!!

I used to be very active with a small QRQ group of hams in which we would
typically have QSO's over 100 wpm and sometimes as high as 125 wpm.

I, in the past month, have tested my K3 s/n 8895, tested into a dummy load
with full QSK. I believe Elecraft specifies full QSK at 100 wpm, but I could
never get it to go that quick and at about 95 wpm, characters would start
losing spacing and weight settings. However with the installation of the new
synthesizer boards and the firmware upgrade, I was able to test my K3 at
between 115 wpm and 120 wpm. Meaning I could copy the characters at those
speeds. Above about 120 wpm, the spacing and weight issue crept in again. I
would feel very secure in recommending the K3 (and probably) the K3S
operating full QSK at 120 wpm and we really could not ask for anything more
than that! 

At one time I owned an original Orion and the Orion II, neither of which I
could use for QRQ; back then when I was doing QRQ I would use a modified
Omni 6+ and if I wanted to run over 90 to 100 wpm, I would use either an
IC-781 or an IC-7700. Now I am more into contesting simply because the old
QRQ group dissipated, but in my opinion, my K3 is really great for operating
in a high signal environment and the high speed full QRQ is just an added
plus!

I hope this info helps some.

73,
Tom - W4BQF


-Original Message-
From: bruce whitney [mailto:zuce...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:21 PM
To: Chester Alderman
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] QRQ QSK - specs?

Sorry - I forgot to sign the post... oversight on my part.
I am Bruce Whitney, Callsign W8RA



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 Message-
 From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
 On Behalf Of bruce
 whitney via Elecraft
 Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 11:38 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] QRQ QSK - specs?
 
 Anyone know? - Does Elecraft
 offer any specifications for QSK performance?
 Perhaps some sort of T/R turnaround time or a  claim for some max. WPM with
acceptible  performance?
 I've been in discusions
 with some friends that do QRQ QSK with K3's and the  K3s - seems to be some
slight  disappointment.
 No problem for me - But I
 have noticed that my Orion II seems better than my
 K3 (with the new Synth) in QSK...
 Anything official on this?
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S IMD Questions

[Lu Romero]

Jim, et al:

"...having a clean signal matters most when you're loud in
the other guy's RX."

>From your mouth to God's ears!  

I was pleasantly surprised at the lack of "turn the knobs
all the way to the right" entrants in this past weekend's
SSB Sprint!  Yes, few mushy and bassy signals, but the large
majority of the signals I heard here were very clear, punchy
and easy to copy!

I don't note this in other phone contests recently.  Seems
that the majority of the players in this Sprint thing are
the more successful contest types, from the callsigns
represented.  

Could they know something that the general run of the mill
guys know about articulated and clean audio?  How can this
be evangelized better?  There is hope for SSB contests yet!

Lu-W4LT
K-Line
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[Elecraft] FS: KX3 w/ Begali Adventure key

[Arlen Fletcher]

I’m selling my KX3 w/ Begali Adventure paddle. This is a great turnkey SOTA 
system!

I am the original owner; I purchased it in March 2014. It is in mint condition 
and has been used very infrequently. 100% non-smoking environment. It operates 
normally - I have had no problems with this radio at all - except for drift of 
the realtime clock - which Elecraft says is within the published specs. It has 
always been transported in it's case (see photos on my QRZ page). S/N 598x (it 
has the ball-bearing VFO).

Here is what is included: 

KX3 160-6 M Transceiver
KX3-PCKT Accessory Cable Set
KXAT3 ATU
KXBC3 Int. NiMH Charger/Clk
KXFL3 Dual Passband Roofing Filter
KXUSB USB Interface Cable
Elecraft KX3 Heatsink Upgrade Kit
Heil Proset headset/Mic.
Begali Adventure key - new in Jan. 2015
Weatherproof case (from "Outdoor Cases") for KX3 and Begali paddle
Right-angle BNC adapter
Original manuals
Price: $1,450 + $35 Shipping. Will ship to the lower 48 U.S. only - payment 
with Cashier's check or Money Order (no PayPal please).

Thanks and 73!

Arlen - AA7F
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] equalization in DATA-A mode?

[Paul Dickson]

That seems to have been it!   The doc says that the Flatten button makes 
it correct for un-eveness in the passband.  I am guessing that WSJT sees 
the tapering ends of the spectrum where the KX3 signal drops off (where 
ever I happen to have the bandwidth set) and over-corrects for it.



- Paul KB1EHD

On 08/30/2015 06:29 PM, David Anderson wrote:
Have you tried un-checking the flatten button? I read that causes such 
problems. I use WSJT 10 here with my KX3 on DATA A at full bandwidth 
which isn't 4kHz ( but that is another question) and it is reasonably 
flat. 73 David Anderson GM4JJJ


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - intermittant noise on 60 meters

[Don Wilhelm]

Hans,

I believe that noise is the "ticking" of the Real Time Clock in the 
KDSP2.  It will only occur when you tap DISPLAY or one of the DSP menus.

It should not be heard in normal operation.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/31/2015 10:41 AM, Hans Bonnesen wrote:

After reinstalling the internal battery in my K2, a new and hitherto never heard
intermittant noise is now heard in display mode.
It appears as one every second.
Could that be noise from the charging circuit
entering the recently installed KDSP2 unit.
Any clues to this ??



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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Don Wilhelm]

I have been shipping parcels with Elecraft gear in them for 11 years.  
Sometimes as many as 6 or 7 a week recently.  In all that time, I have 
only know of 3 which had gone astray, but were eventually delivered.  I 
normally use USPS Priority Mail and it is fast, reliable and 
economical.  Two or 3 day delivery to any of the 50 states.  The price 
is a little more than UPS Ground, and less than UPS 3 day.
UPS and FedEx are good too, and if you can get commercial rates, they 
are discounted, but I depend on USPS much more than UPS.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/31/2015 8:58 AM, Ray Sills wrote:

USPS Priority does a fine job.  And, insurance is available.  Only once in my 
experience did USPS have a shipping hiccup:
The package coming to me had arrived in Philadelphia (closest major city)… but 
somehow, it got sent to California, where I languished for a day or two, before 
finally coming back to Philly and ultimately to me.  BTW, this hiccup was not 
an order from Elecraft.  I still prefer USPS Priority.



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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Bob McGraw - K4TAX]

As I have done repairs over the years and thus shipped many items, I've 
found any mode of expedited shipping is more likely to get the 
merchandise to its destination with little to no damage and no items 
were actually lost.Ground freight, UPS Ground or FED X Ground, seems 
to get boxes moved and loaded and unloaded and moved and dropped and 
such many times where as expedited shipping greatly reduces handling.


As a comment from my former company, we never insured merchandise. It is 
overall less expensive in a years time to risk loosing 1 or 2 packages 
than to insure every one of them.  Besides, if the package is insured 
for say $3K that raises suspicion to handlers as to what it contains.  
With no insurance coverage, it could  be a box of books, which would 
appear to the uninformed, as of no interest.


Of note, the shipping charge for my new K3S from CA to TN was $35.35.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

On 8/31/2015 4:01 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
I have been shipping parcels with Elecraft gear in them for 11 years.  
Sometimes as many as 6 or 7 a week recently.  In all that time, I have 
only know of 3 which had gone astray, but were eventually delivered.  
I normally use USPS Priority Mail and it is fast, reliable and 
economical.  Two or 3 day delivery to any of the 50 states.  The price 
is a little more than UPS Ground, and less than UPS 3 day.
UPS and FedEx are good too, and if you can get commercial rates, they 
are discounted, but I depend on USPS much more than UPS.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/31/2015 8:58 AM, Ray Sills wrote:
USPS Priority does a fine job.  And, insurance is available.  Only 
once in my experience did USPS have a shipping hiccup:
The package coming to me had arrived in Philadelphia (closest major 
city)… but somehow, it got sent to California, where I languished for 
a day or two, before finally coming back to Philly and ultimately to 
me.  BTW, this hiccup was not an order from Elecraft.  I still prefer 
USPS Priority.




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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Don Wilhelm]

Well, the K2, K1, KX1, K3 and KX3 are unique in that they contain 
certain options, so I believe insurance is worthwhile.  If I were a 
company shipping something that is non-configurable, and I had 
replacement stock, then you are correct that it would be less expensive 
over time to simply replace whatever was lost or strayed. But if you 
have essentially a one-of-a-kind item, insurance is a good idea.


As far as damage goes, the only time I have seen damage is when the 
article is not well packed in the box.  If it can move inside the 
packaging, there is a good chance of damage.  Think about an abrupt stop 
at the end of one of those roller package handling conveyers. That is 
when knobs or antenna jacks could come in contact with the inside of the 
packaging.  Bubble wrap and packing peanuts work well for packing, but 
those large air bags should not be used with anything having substantial 
weight.  I have seen many of those large air bags that have popped and 
allowed the contents to move after they pop.  Soft foam sheets do not 
work well either, they 'squish' too much.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/31/2015 5:15 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:


As a comment from my former company, we never insured merchandise. It 
is overall less expensive in a years time to risk loosing 1 or 2 
packages than to insure every one of them.  Besides, if the package is 
insured for say $3K that raises suspicion to handlers as to what it 
contains.  With no insurance coverage, it could  be a box of books, 
which would appear to the uninformed, as of no interest.


Of note, the shipping charge for my new K3S from CA to TN was $35.35.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

On 8/31/2015 4:01 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
I have been shipping parcels with Elecraft gear in them for 11 
years.  Sometimes as many as 6 or 7 a week recently.  In all that 
time, I have only know of 3 which had gone astray, but were 
eventually delivered.  I normally use USPS Priority Mail and it is 
fast, reliable and economical.  Two or 3 day delivery to any of the 
50 states.  The price is a little more than UPS Ground, and less than 
UPS 3 day.
UPS and FedEx are good too, and if you can get commercial rates, they 
are discounted, but I depend on USPS much more than UPS.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/31/2015 8:58 AM, Ray Sills wrote:
USPS Priority does a fine job.  And, insurance is available.  Only 
once in my experience did USPS have a shipping hiccup:
The package coming to me had arrived in Philadelphia (closest major 
city)… but somehow, it got sent to California, where I languished 
for a day or two, before finally coming back to Philly and 
ultimately to me.  BTW, this hiccup was not an order from Elecraft.  
I still prefer USPS Priority.




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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Michael Eberle]

It says right there in on the Shopping Cart screen that the KSUN3AUPG is 
0.80 lbs, or if you have 2 in the cart, 1.60 lbs which is 12.8 oz for 
one or 25.6 ounces for two.


On 8/31/2015 6:37 AM, Nr4c wrote:

I really don't think the two boards exceed 4 oz much less 14. He left a field 
blank on the info screen. Go back and make a selection for EVERY field and you 
should be fine. The form does not make assumptions.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Aug 31, 2015, at 1:50 AM, Bob  wrote:

Hi Barry,

The 2 boards most likely exceed the 14 oz limit.



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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Fred Jensen]

Yes, definitely.  I almost never buy anything on eBay, but did purchase 
a Bird Thru-Line with several slugs a few years ago.  It arrived with 
the meter destroyed [pretty hard to destroy the rest of a Thru-Line 
:-)].  It had been packed with two of the double large air bags, 3 of 
the 4 bags were deflated when I opened the package. No relief from the 
seller, I guess it's caveat emptor all over again.


73,

Fred K6DGW
Sparks NV



On 8/31/2015 3:33 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
Bubble wrap and packing peanuts work well for packing, but those large 
air bags should not be used with anything having substantial weight.  
I have seen many of those large air bags that have popped and allowed 
the contents to move after they pop.  Soft foam sheets do not work 
well either, they 'squish' too much.


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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Alan]

I bought a mic mixer on Ebay that arrived packed with no padding 
whatsoever.  He had basically just wrapped cardboard around the chassis, 
taped it up, and stuck a mailing label on it.


The damage was surprisingly small considering, but of course the seller 
didn't even reply when I contacted him about it.


That's one reason I rarely buy anything on Ebay.  I've had much better 
luck with Amazon.


Alan N1AL


On 08/31/2015 04:14 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

Yes, definitely.  I almost never buy anything on eBay, but did purchase
a Bird Thru-Line with several slugs a few years ago.  It arrived with
the meter destroyed [pretty hard to destroy the rest of a Thru-Line
:-)].  It had been packed with two of the double large air bags, 3 of
the 4 bags were deflated when I opened the package. No relief from the
seller, I guess it's caveat emptor all over again.

73,

Fred K6DGW
Sparks NV



On 8/31/2015 3:33 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Bubble wrap and packing peanuts work well for packing, but those large
air bags should not be used with anything having substantial weight. I
have seen many of those large air bags that have popped and allowed
the contents to move after they pop.  Soft foam sheets do not work
well either, they 'squish' too much.


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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Let's end the thread for now, as it looks like its been pretty much beaten to 
death. Lots of posts!  Time to give the rest of our readers an email overload 
break ;-)

73,
Eric
Moderator etc.
elecraft.com
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> On Aug 31, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Alan  wrote:
> 
> I bought a mic mixer on Ebay that arrived packed with no padding whatsoever.  
> He had basically just wrapped cardboard around the chassis, taped it up, and 
> stuck a mailing label on it.
> 
> The damage was surprisingly small considering, but of course the seller 
> didn't even reply when I contacted him about it.
> 
> That's one reason I rarely buy anything on Ebay.  I've had much better luck 
> with Amazon.
> 
> Alan N1AL
> 
> 
>> On 08/31/2015 04:14 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> Yes, definitely.  I almost never buy anything on eBay, but did purchase
>> a Bird Thru-Line with several slugs a few years ago.  It arrived with
>> the meter destroyed [pretty hard to destroy the rest of a Thru-Line
>> :-)].  It had been packed with two of the double large air bags, 3 of
>> the 4 bags were deflated when I opened the package. No relief from the
>> seller, I guess it's caveat emptor all over again.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Fred K6DGW
>> Sparks NV
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/31/2015 3:33 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> Bubble wrap and packing peanuts work well for packing, but those large
>>> air bags should not be used with anything having substantial weight. I
>>> have seen many of those large air bags that have popped and allowed
>>> the contents to move after they pop.  Soft foam sheets do not work
>>> well either, they 'squish' too much.
>> 
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[Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[James Wilson]

All this talk about shipping cost and damage reminds
me how great it is to order Elecraft KITS. They're
well packed and we get the fun of assembly.

Shipping is expensive no matter who is the carrier.

Jim - W4RKS
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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Mike VE3YF]

Barry:

FWIW, it cost me $47.00 to have 4 x boards shipped to me up here in 
Ontario. I do believe that I used USPS Priority Shipping.



73 De Mike
VE3YF

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[Elecraft] Postage

[greenacres113]

Yes, domestic mail up to 14 oz is 1st Class then Priority rates take
over. The rate would be about $6 anywhere in the USA for less than 2
lbs.

K9IL
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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Nr4c]

I really don't think the two boards exceed 4 oz much less 14. He left a field 
blank on the info screen. Go back and make a selection for EVERY field and you 
should be fine. The form does not make assumptions. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 31, 2015, at 1:50 AM, Bob  wrote:
> 
> Hi Barry,
> 
>The 2 boards most likely exceed the 14 oz limit.  If you 
> really want 1st class mail used. split the order as 2 separate boards.  That 
> may still be cheaper than UPS and quicker too.  Don't know about CO .but 
> cross country to NJ It seems to me that USPS pretty consistently beats UPS 
> with 1st class or Priority mail. on a price and performance basis.
> 
> YMMV.
> 
> 73,
> Bob
> K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR
> 
> 
>> On 8/30/2015 10:29 PM, Barry wrote:
>> I want to order 2 KSYN3AUPG synthesizer upgrade boards for my K3.  I'm
>> presented with a myriad of shipping choices, including USPS First Class.  It
>> says Dirst Class only for orders up to 14 oz, but no weight is listed for
>> the board.  Then, the shopping cart lists the USPS First Class s/h cost as
>> $999.00 :-)
>> 
>> Can 2 boards be shipped First Class or are they greater than 14 oz with
>> packaging?
>> If so, what is the most cost-effective shipping method within the US (CA to
>> CO, specifically)?
>> 
>> Tnx,
>> Barry W2UP
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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Don Wilhelm]

You are forgetting to add the weight of the shipping box and any packing 
material.

Yes, that is the weight of the raw board.
Add 2 or 3 ounces for the packaging and the total goes over 14 oz, which 
is the 1st class limit.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/31/2015 6:57 PM, Michael Eberle wrote:


It says right there in on the Shopping Cart screen that the KSUN3AUPG 
is 0.80 lbs, or if you have 2 in the cart, 1.60 lbs which is 12.8 oz 
for one or 25.6 ounces for two.


On 8/31/2015 6:37 AM, Nr4c wrote:
I really don't think the two boards exceed 4 oz much less 14. He left 
a field blank on the info screen. Go back and make a selection for 
EVERY field and you should be fine. The form does not make assumptions.




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[Elecraft] K3S trouble doing PSK31 w DM780

[Steve Muenich]

Hi all,

It's my first time posting to this group as I recently got my K3S #10121 on the 
air.  I have been really enjoying playing with it on SSB and CW. 
I use HRD as my logging and rig control. But over the last couple of nights I 
have been trying to get on the digital modes, mostly PSK31 at first. 
Im using the USB interface to PC, I have good rx and I am decoding PSK fine. 
Problem is when I go to TX. I have PTT with rf power out and monitor audio as I 
hear data but No ALC indication at all. K3S is in Data mode. 
I hear good and when I try to answer CQ no one ever responds. 

Any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong?

Thanks in advance. 

73
Steve, NA5C



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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Ray Sills]

When I ordered my KX3 kit several years ago, I requested USPS Priority Mail.  
The cost was around $15 (less expensive than any other shipping method), and it 
arrived (west coast to east coast) in 3 days… maybe 2, I forget.  But, it -was- 
quick.

USPS Priority does a fine job.  And, insurance is available.  Only once in my 
experience did USPS have a shipping hiccup:
The package coming to me had arrived in Philadelphia (closest major city)… but 
somehow, it got sent to California, where I languished for a day or two, before 
finally coming back to Philly and ultimately to me.  BTW, this hiccup was not 
an order from Elecraft.  I still prefer USPS Priority.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

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[Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[James Wilson]

This has come up before. Wouldn't it be just as easy to program
the system to say something like "INVALID" RATHER THAN $999.00
to indicate INVALID ?

Jim - W4RKS
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*Sun Aug 30 22:29:08 EDT 2015*


   - I want to order 2 KSYN3AUPG synthesizer upgrade boards for my K3.
I'm presented
   with a myriad of shipping choices, including USPS First Class. It says
   First Class only for orders up to 14 oz, but no weight is listed for the
   board. Then, the shopping cart lists the USPS First Class s/h cost
as $999.00
   :-)
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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

Bringing this discussion back down to Earth, 

I ship a lot of moderate weight (up to 5 pound) items and I can tell you that 
shipping costs have escalated so much over the past few years that I'm sure 
many people have limited their internet shopping.  This is especially true from 
my experience with international sales.  As an example, I make a variety of 
spun aluminum knob inlays for "boatanchor" radios that range in price from $1 
to $4 and weigh practically nothing.  The cheapest I can ship a tiny inlay to 
Europe in  * a box, is $7.10.  Needless to say, bundling for overseas shipments 
is the only practical way.

If your first impression is that Elecraft's shipping is a tad on the high side, 
just remember, the high dollar items are insured for full value.   That's an 
added $20 for a $2k item.  That plus the very real high cost for any service 
moves that amount up quite a bit.

Admittedly, loss or damage to a relatively small package is low, but do you 
really want to take that chance?

73, Charlie k3ICH


* Yes, I could put it in a simple envelope for $1.35, but the chance of damage 
is close to 100%.  I use a fold-up "cassette mailer" box that you could stand 
on resulting in a damage percentage under 1%.  My only concern is just how long 
a cassette mailer box is going to be sold.  Does anybody still use cassettes, 
or much less,  send them through the mail?Domestic USPS on that box has 
gone from 59¢ to $2.54 in about ten years.   Int'l, from a couple bucks to 
$7.10 in the same time frame.





-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ray Sills
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:59 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

When I ordered my KX3 kit several years ago, I requested USPS Priority Mail.  
The cost was around $15 (less expensive than any other shipping method), and it 
arrived (west coast to east coast) in 3 days… maybe 2, I forget.  But, it -was- 
quick.

USPS Priority does a fine job.  And, insurance is available.  Only once in my 
experience did USPS have a shipping hiccup:
The package coming to me had arrived in Philadelphia (closest major city)… but 
somehow, it got sent to California, where I languished for a day or two, before 
finally coming back to Philly and ultimately to me.  BTW, this hiccup was not 
an order from Elecraft.  I still prefer USPS Priority.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211



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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Michael Goins]

I use USPS most of the time, UPS very occasionally. Had to use Fedex
recently to ship the manuscript for a novel to my editor. One small box
containing 400 sheets of paper. Almost a hundred dollars to New York to get
there overnight and it barely made it there on time. Never again.

Mike, k5wmg
Bella-Green Bed & Breakfast
www.bella-green.com


On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH  wrote:

> Bringing this discussion back down to Earth,
>
> I ship a lot of moderate weight (up to 5 pound) items and I can tell you
> that shipping costs have escalated so much over the past few years that I'm
> sure many people have limited their internet shopping.  This is especially
> true from my experience with international sales.  As an example, I make a
> variety of spun aluminum knob inlays for "boatanchor" radios that range in
> price from $1 to $4 and weigh practically nothing.  The cheapest I can ship
> a tiny inlay to Europe in  * a box, is $7.10.  Needless to say, bundling
> for overseas shipments is the only practical way.
>
> If your first impression is that Elecraft's shipping is a tad on the high
> side, just remember, the high dollar items are insured for full value.
>  That's an added $20 for a $2k item.  That plus the very real high cost for
> any service moves that amount up quite a bit.
>
> Admittedly, loss or damage to a relatively small package is low, but do
> you really want to take that chance?
>
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>
>
> * Yes, I could put it in a simple envelope for $1.35, but the chance of
> damage is close to 100%.  I use a fold-up "cassette mailer" box that you
> could stand on resulting in a damage percentage under 1%.  My only concern
> is just how long a cassette mailer box is going to be sold.  Does anybody
> still use cassettes, or much less,  send them through the mail?Domestic
> USPS on that box has gone from 59¢ to $2.54 in about ten years.   Int'l,
> from a couple bucks to $7.10 in the same time frame.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ray
> Sills
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:59 AM
> To: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!
>
> When I ordered my KX3 kit several years ago, I requested USPS Priority
> Mail.  The cost was around $15 (less expensive than any other shipping
> method), and it arrived (west coast to east coast) in 3 days… maybe 2, I
> forget.  But, it -was- quick.
>
> USPS Priority does a fine job.  And, insurance is available.  Only once in
> my experience did USPS have a shipping hiccup:
> The package coming to me had arrived in Philadelphia (closest major city)…
> but somehow, it got sent to California, where I languished for a day or
> two, before finally coming back to Philly and ultimately to me.  BTW, this
> hiccup was not an order from Elecraft.  I still prefer USPS Priority.
>
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
> KX3 #211
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Barry]

Tnx for all the replies, including the amusing ones (of which I expected a
few)  :-)

I changed the shipping choice to USPS Prio Mail and it worked fine (about
$12) and it said the package weighs 1.6 lbs.

Yes, shipping is expensive.  Guess the little guys have to subsidize the
Amazon.com's of the world cheap, high volume rates.

Barry W2UP



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