Re: [Elecraft] K3s AFSK frequencies
If you are using AFSK, it's best to stick with the standard 2125 frequency, so the second harmonic is outside the 2.7 Khz audio passband. With FSK, you can go lower. My ears like the sound of 915 Hz. -Original Message- From: Mike Dodd Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 8:03 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3s AFSK frequencies Hello to the group. I just put my new K3s/100 into service, and have a question about the Mark frequency to use with AFSK. Before the K3s, I used a SignaLink with my KX3 and MMTTY. With that setup, I set MMTTY to use 915 Hz for the Mark frequency, and everything worked fine. Fiddling with the K3s and its internal USB sound card (I love that!), I can select various higher Mark frequencies using the PITCH button, and set MMTTY accordingly, and the K3 still decodes the RTTY. So my question is, what is the "standard" or common Mark frequency to use for AFSK on the K3? Or is it a matter of personal preference -- which sounds better to my ears when tuning RTTY signals? Also, what bandwidth is commonly used for 170 Hz-shift RTTY? I stocked this K3s with four 8-pole filters, including 400 Hz and 250 Hz. The 250 Hz filter works with RTTY, but the MMTTY X-Y scope pattern looks like I might be pushing things with that narrow a filter. the 400 Hz filter looks better. But David (I think) at Elecraft told me when I made my list of filters that I'd be using 2.1 kHz or 2.8 kHz for RTTY. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me if QRM is present. OTOH, MMTTY is decoding specific tones, so maybe filter width doesn't make much difference. What do the experts say? Thanks for any information. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k6ll.d...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Carrying Case
Rose Kopp makes an excellent storage and travel bag for the KX3 in a couple of different versions. Link is on the Elecraft website. I have one made to hold the KX3, PX3, and KXPA100. I don't have the amp, so I use that compartment for my A123 battery, charger, a small power supply, and misc accessories. A compact keyboard also fits nicely inside the top, and two side pockets hold the mic, cables, and other junk I haul around. It's a soft bag, so you can't reasonably stand on it, drop it off a cliff and expect it to survive, or fly with it as checked baggage etc., but at least it doesn't weigh more than what's inside it. Grant NQ5T Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2016, at 10:02 PM, W1PDI via Elecraft> wrote: > > Any recommendations on a carry case for a KX3 that would have space for > accessories i.e. Connectors, mic etc.. Also to serve as a storage case when > the KX3 isn't in use. > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3s AFSK frequencies
Current thinking is to use a fairly wide filter for RTTY. The software filters that are applied in the sound card are much narrower, about 50 Hz wide. Lately I've been using the 2.7 KHz roofing filter, with DSP bandwidth set to about 600 Hz. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -Original Message- From: Mike Dodd Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 8:03 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3s AFSK frequencies Hello to the group. I just put my new K3s/100 into service, and have a question about the Mark frequency to use with AFSK. Before the K3s, I used a SignaLink with my KX3 and MMTTY. With that setup, I set MMTTY to use 915 Hz for the Mark frequency, and everything worked fine. Fiddling with the K3s and its internal USB sound card (I love that!), I can select various higher Mark frequencies using the PITCH button, and set MMTTY accordingly, and the K3 still decodes the RTTY. So my question is, what is the "standard" or common Mark frequency to use for AFSK on the K3? Or is it a matter of personal preference -- which sounds better to my ears when tuning RTTY signals? Also, what bandwidth is commonly used for 170 Hz-shift RTTY? I stocked this K3s with four 8-pole filters, including 400 Hz and 250 Hz. The 250 Hz filter works with RTTY, but the MMTTY X-Y scope pattern looks like I might be pushing things with that narrow a filter. the 400 Hz filter looks better. But David (I think) at Elecraft told me when I made my list of filters that I'd be using 2.1 kHz or 2.8 kHz for RTTY. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me if QRM is present. OTOH, MMTTY is decoding specific tones, so maybe filter width doesn't make much difference. What do the experts say? Thanks for any information. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k6ll.d...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Carrying Case
I use a Pelican box - the same type I keep my Dive Computers in. It is fully waterproof - has a pressure equalisation plug - and built to last. Not the cheapest option - but one I feel comfortable with. Regards Tim > On 13 Apr 2016, at 07:02, W1PDI via Elecraftwrote: > > Any recommendations on a carry case for a KX3 that would have space for > accessories i.e. Connectors, mic etc.. Also to serve as a storage case when > the KX3 isn't in use. > > Thanks, > Tom > > Sent from my iPhone > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to a4...@sy-edm.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
Seems like a nice blend of physical controls and screen controls. But until such a rig is possible for under $3k I'll be running the 'old' K3. I like the onboard p/s also; haven't had one of those since the TenTec Century 21, hehe... 73, Drew AF2Z On 04/12/16 17:07, Chortek Bob via Elecraft wrote: I have no insight but I'd be very surprised to see a K4 soon given the very recent introduction of the K3S. Bob AA6VB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3s AFSK frequencies
Hello to the group. I just put my new K3s/100 into service, and have a question about the Mark frequency to use with AFSK. Before the K3s, I used a SignaLink with my KX3 and MMTTY. With that setup, I set MMTTY to use 915 Hz for the Mark frequency, and everything worked fine. Fiddling with the K3s and its internal USB sound card (I love that!), I can select various higher Mark frequencies using the PITCH button, and set MMTTY accordingly, and the K3 still decodes the RTTY. So my question is, what is the "standard" or common Mark frequency to use for AFSK on the K3? Or is it a matter of personal preference -- which sounds better to my ears when tuning RTTY signals? Also, what bandwidth is commonly used for 170 Hz-shift RTTY? I stocked this K3s with four 8-pole filters, including 400 Hz and 250 Hz. The 250 Hz filter works with RTTY, but the MMTTY X-Y scope pattern looks like I might be pushing things with that narrow a filter. the 400 Hz filter looks better. But David (I think) at Elecraft told me when I made my list of filters that I'd be using 2.1 kHz or 2.8 kHz for RTTY. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me if QRM is present. OTOH, MMTTY is decoding specific tones, so maybe filter width doesn't make much difference. What do the experts say? Thanks for any information. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KX3 Carrying Case
Any recommendations on a carry case for a KX3 that would have space for accessories i.e. Connectors, mic etc.. Also to serve as a storage case when the KX3 isn't in use. Thanks, Tom Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Audio direct
I took it that the poster was saying that a direct (via wire) connection between the radio being demo'ed and the recorder would avoid room echo, background noise, etc. 73 K0PP On Apr 12, 2016 17:58,wrote: On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:17:34 -0700 Dave Cole writes: > What's audio direct? > -- > 73's, and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z) apparently sounds good Bob K3DJC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to elecraftcov...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:17:34 -0700 Dave Colewrites: > What's audio direct? > -- > 73's, and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z) apparently sounds good Bob K3DJC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
What's audio direct? -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net For MixW support see: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info For SSTV help see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 22:28 +, Al Lorona wrote: > I must rant: Good video quality... typically LOUSY audio quality. The > internet is filled with videos of rigs where the rig's cheap internal > speaker is being picked up by a camera mic several feet away in an > echoey room. Haven't any of these poor guys ever heard of audio > direct? > > Al W6LX > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] FS: Mint K3/100-F with option package
For Sale: Mint Elecraft K3/100-F [SN 4669] by original owner from a non-smoking ham shack always covered, flawless in every way, includes original manual and excellent copy of manual, original DC power cable plus brand new DC power cable sealed in bag, USB 2.0 Serial DB9 RS-232 (6 ft.) cable sealed in box, brand new extra VFO B knob, Yamaha CM-500 headset with all accessories included, dust cover by Rose with Elecraft K3 logo, Elecraft K3 and KX-3 buttons from Dayton, Allen wrench from Elecraft. K3/100-F configuration and options installed: KAT3-F, KXV3A, KFL3-2.8K, KFL3A-400Hz, KFL3A-1.8K with original firmware updates. Newer firmware available through Elecraft Web page. ASKING: $2400 with shipping and insurance in CONUS via UPS ground Also available for sale: THP HL-1.5KFX amp/ALC cable for K3 to THP amp sold by Array Solutions. ASKING: $40 with S/H for this cable assembly via USPS Priority Mail. Makes hook-up to THP amp flawless and easy. Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwi...@verizon.net No trades or swaps. Photos sent upon request. Postal USPS Money orders, certified bank check, no checks or PayPal. No overseas sales. Reason for sale is that I already have an IC-7800 and I would like to try something else for now as my back-up radio. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
I must rant: Good video quality... typically LOUSY audio quality. The internet is filled with videos of rigs where the rig's cheap internal speaker is being picked up by a camera mic several feet away in an echoey room. Haven't any of these poor guys ever heard of audio direct? Al W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 build from purgatory!
While Don's advice is perfect for small components (DIPs, resistor, capacitors, etc.) large parts like relays can be problematical to cut into bits, although it can be done. For those parts I prefer a solder sucker (or wick with added flux - dipping the wick in liquid flux just before use does wonders for its action, even with so-called pre-coated solder wick) to remove solder from the hole, then grip the pin from side of the board opposite the part and wiggle it. The thin film of solder easily breaks free without damaging anything and the part can be lifted out. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of lstavenhagen Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:12 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 build from purgatory! Ah yes, thanks for that reminder. If it comes to that, is there a good way to smush a latching relay body without dangerously ripping the pins out of the board? I worry that crushing it with say a pair of pliers could stress the through-holes in the board. Or is it just not that strong? Thanks, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-build-from-purgatory-tp7616239p76162 53.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to r...@cobi.biz __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } I have no insight but I'd be very surprised to see a K4 soon given the very recent introduction of the K3S. Bob AA6VB Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 12:41 PM, Clay Auterywrote: This year? __ Clay Autery, KG5LKV MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 4/12/2016 10:06 AM, David Pratt wrote: > You will have to wait until the Dayton hamvention to find out. > > 73 de David G4DMP > > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 09:49:31 -0400 > Dan Atchison via Elecraft wrote: > >> The MB1 Transceiver >> >> http://sunsdr.eu/product/mb1/ >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to caut...@montac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to bobchor...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 build from purgatory!
Since I no longer have a K2, I’m only taking a WAG here, but would this not be a good candidate for Chip Quick? I used it to pull an SMD IC off a board a few weeks ago and it absolutely works great…. 73, Jim / W6JHB > On Tuesday, Apr 12, 2016, at Tuesday, 1:24 PM, Dale Putnam >wrote: > > I've had good luck removing that relay with a hot air smd rework station.. > one must be aware of how much air.. and what temp.. but heat applied to the > other side of the board, just enough to flow the solder.. on one pin at a > time.. to lift the relay a smidge.. then move to the next pin.. .. OR enough > heat to simply lift the relay.. either way works.. > and relay removal by pieces works too. > > Have a great day, > --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy > > > > From: Elecraft on behalf of Don Wilhelm > > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 1:49 PM > To: lstavenhagen; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 build from purgatory! > > LS, > > I would try pliers first, but watch the process as you apply pressure. > It may assist if you damage the case more with your soldering iron (melt > more of the plastic) until you can get an Exacto knife edge into it to > help with the process. > As I said, use any tool that works - just be careful not to damage other > nearby components. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 4/12/2016 3:11 PM, lstavenhagen wrote: >> Ah yes, thanks for that reminder. If it comes to that, is there a good way to >> smush a latching relay body without dangerously ripping the pins out of the >> board? I worry that crushing it with say a pair of pliers could stress the >> through-holes in the board. Or is it just not that strong? >> >> Thanks, >> LS >> W5QD >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-build-from-purgatory-tp7616239p7616253.html >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to w3...@embarqmail.com >> > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to daleput...@hotmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 build from purgatory!
Yes, I spent a lot of good quality time with the encoder installation and it came out fine in the end. To be honest, all these "problems" have nothing to do with the kit - it's more I've made more mistakes with this one than my first K2 build. On the other hand, the mistakes I have made have been the most instructive. When I've messed something up or something didn't look right (like a possibly bridge solder connection), I'd simply stop and go study the schematic. I'd spend some time there, then go google "PLL synthesizer" or "contact debouncing" or "why do relay coils have diodes across them". Then come back to the schematic and see how Wayne and Eric did it. and so forth. So my screwups have actually really helped me learn all the stuff I should have actually learned when I took my Extra hi hi. And chances are, with these messups, I'm probably going to learn something else in addition. I hope the rig works at the end too, that would really be gravy! 73, LS W5QD. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-build-from-purgatory-tp7616239p7616263.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KXV3 -- Xverter PWA
Thanks everyone , I now am now the proud owner of a KXV3A PWA. 73 Ken K5DNL/WG2XXM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 build from purgatory!
I've had good luck removing that relay with a hot air smd rework station.. one must be aware of how much air.. and what temp.. but heat applied to the other side of the board, just enough to flow the solder.. on one pin at a time.. to lift the relay a smidge.. then move to the next pin.. .. OR enough heat to simply lift the relay.. either way works.. and relay removal by pieces works too. Have a great day, --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy From: Elecrafton behalf of Don Wilhelm Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 1:49 PM To: lstavenhagen; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 build from purgatory! LS, I would try pliers first, but watch the process as you apply pressure. It may assist if you damage the case more with your soldering iron (melt more of the plastic) until you can get an Exacto knife edge into it to help with the process. As I said, use any tool that works - just be careful not to damage other nearby components. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/12/2016 3:11 PM, lstavenhagen wrote: > Ah yes, thanks for that reminder. If it comes to that, is there a good way to > smush a latching relay body without dangerously ripping the pins out of the > board? I worry that crushing it with say a pair of pliers could stress the > through-holes in the board. Or is it just not that strong? > > Thanks, > LS > W5QD > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-build-from-purgatory-tp7616239p7616253.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w3...@embarqmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to daleput...@hotmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 build from purgatory!
Hi Don, I was actually thinking just that - just use my soldering iron and finish the job I originally started on it lol! I'm lucky that it's one of the relays in the lowpass filter and not the 40 meter filter, so there are no components around it of any real note yet That may be exactly what I do with it, in fact. Thanks, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-build-from-purgatory-tp7616239p7616260.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K2 build from purgatory!
I’ll second all of that. In the middle stages of the K1 build last week C22, the smallest capacitor in the inventory, escaped from the parts bin - presumably to avoid being soldered - disappearing into a carpet the nap of which is several multiples of the cap’s full girth. (Your D36 may have done the same.) Richard Trebbien had another one in my hands within 72 hours. Kudos indeed! Ted, KN1CBR >-- > >Message: 12 >Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 07:54:46 -0700 (MST) >From: lstavenhagen>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: [Elecraft] K2 build from purgatory! >Message-ID: <1460472886637-7616239.p...@n2.nabble.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Well, more kudos to Elecraft support are in order, so just want to give >credit where exceptional credit is due. My second K2 build is going >nowhere >as smoothly as my first one: I somehow managed to lose D36, the SMT PIN >diode and didn't discover that it was actually gone from my table until I >got to that installation step. Prior to that, though, I managed to burn a >pretty decent corner off one of the latching relays on the board. So I get >to practice my difficult-to-remove-part removal skills to replace it! > >All this of course, a warning to everyone to not ever "press on" with a >build when one is tired. That's how I managed to burn the corner off the >relay while soldering in another component on the board, I just wasn't >paying attention to where the iron was going! > >As for D36, I must have flicked it off the table at some point in the past >and where she went, nobody knows. > >Despite all that, I'm still having a wonderful time with this build and >have >learnt more in the process than I think I ever did on any other project >I've >done. > >So I emailed pa...@elecraft.com with my tail between my legs this weekend >- >I think they all know me there now LOL - and they sent me replacements >yesterday, pretty much taking care of it right as they opened for >business. >So I should have the replacement parts in hand on Thurs. Can't get better >service than that! > >Only a couple more parts and the receiver will be finished. If I made any >goofs so far, well, I suppose I'll find out soon enough. > >Tnx to Elecraft and 73 >LS >W5QD > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 build from purgatory!
Whatever you do, be careful with that rotary encoder. I just had to have Don replace the one in my K2. Those are $125 each, probably the most expensive part in the entire radio! Don't lose it!! 73 de W6OGC Jim Allen Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 build from purgatory!
LS, I would try pliers first, but watch the process as you apply pressure. It may assist if you damage the case more with your soldering iron (melt more of the plastic) until you can get an Exacto knife edge into it to help with the process. As I said, use any tool that works - just be careful not to damage other nearby components. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/12/2016 3:11 PM, lstavenhagen wrote: Ah yes, thanks for that reminder. If it comes to that, is there a good way to smush a latching relay body without dangerously ripping the pins out of the board? I worry that crushing it with say a pair of pliers could stress the through-holes in the board. Or is it just not that strong? Thanks, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-build-from-purgatory-tp7616239p7616253.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w3...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
I like the way it works now... lets me know how far I've moved it... especially with different spans on different bands... Course, I mostly use the markers to jump from signal to signal right now... __ Clay Autery, KG5LKV MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 4/12/2016 11:27 AM, Bob Novas wrote: > you're gonna make me turn it on, aren't you. Fix-Track mode, where the > spectrum moves when you tune the radio. The waterfall that's already fell > stays where it is and the new waterfall line moves with the spectrum. I think > it'd be better If the whole waterfall moved with the spectrum. Bob W3DK > >> -Original Message- >> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave >> Cole >> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:17 PM >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this? >> >> On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:36 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: >> I think that's an >> improvement over the equivalent mode >> on the P3 where the waterfall >> fractures when you tune the radio. >> >> Bob W3DK >> >> Hi Bob, >> What mode are you talking about? I don't seem to remember anything but >> smooth movement of my Waterfall on my P3... Perhaps I am not in the same >> mode you are talking about? >> -- >> 73's, and thanks, >> Dave (NK7Z) >> >> For software/hardware reviews see: >> http://www.nk7z.net >> >> For MixW support see: >> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info >> >> For SSTV help see: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info >> >> >> On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:36 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: >> I think that's an improvement over the equivalent mode on the P3 where the >> waterfall fractures when you tune the radio. >> >> Bob W3DK >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message >> delivered to bob.no...@verizon.net > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to caut...@montac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
This year? __ Clay Autery, KG5LKV MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 4/12/2016 10:06 AM, David Pratt wrote: > You will have to wait until the Dayton hamvention to find out. > > 73 de David G4DMP > > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 09:49:31 -0400 > Dan Atchison via Elecraftwrote: > >> The MB1 Transceiver >> >> http://sunsdr.eu/product/mb1/ >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to caut...@montac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
Hi Bob, OK, what threw me was the word fragmented... I understand now. Thank you! -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net For MixW support see: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info For SSTV help see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 15:00 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: > yes, that's what I'm trying to say - I'd rather the old waterfall > bits track the new waterfall so the lines don't slant. You can see > that in the video for the new MB1 transceiver, and that behavior > makes more sense to me, or at least appeals to my sense of > aesthetics. Bob W3DK > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf > > Of Dave > > Cole > > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 1:51 PM > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this? > > > > Hi, > > > > Sorry for making you turn it on... :) My waterfall does not > > track-- new data is > > inserted into a non tracking waterfall, so when I tune I get a > > slanting line as I > > expect from a dead carrier... > > > > I see no fragmenting, unless you are talking about the slanting > > line left in the > > Waterfall as you tune. > > > > Is this what you are indicating? Do you want the waterfall to > > track as well as the > > waveform above the waterfall? > > > > -- > > 73's, and thanks, > > Dave (NK7Z) > > > > For software/hardware reviews see: > > http://www.nk7z.net > > > > For MixW support see: > > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info > > > > For SSTV help see: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info > > > > > > On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 12:27 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: > > > > > > you're gonna make me turn it on, aren't you. Fix-Track mode, > > > where > > > the spectrum moves when you tune the radio. The waterfall that's > > > already fell stays where it is and the new waterfall line moves > > > with > > > the spectrum. I think it'd be better If the whole waterfall moved > > > with > > > the spectrum. Bob W3DK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On > > > > Behalf > > > > Of Dave Cole > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:17 PM > > > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this? > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:36 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: > > > > I think that's an > > > > improvement over the equivalent mode on the P3 where the > > > > waterfall > > > > fractures when you tune the radio. > > > > > > > > Bob W3DK > > > > > > > > Hi Bob, > > > > What mode are you talking about? I don't seem to remember > > > > anything > > > > but smooth movement of my Waterfall on my P3... Perhaps I am > > > > not in > > > > the same mode you are talking about? > > > > -- > > > > 73's, and thanks, > > > > Dave (NK7Z) > > > > > > > > For software/hardware reviews see: > > > > http://www.nk7z.net > > > > > > > > For MixW support see: > > > > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info > > > > > > > > For SSTV help see: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:36 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: > > > > I think that's an improvement over the equivalent mode on the > > > > P3 > > > > where the waterfall fractures when you tune the radio. > > > > > > > > Bob W3DK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support > > > > this > > > > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered > > > > to > > > > bob.no...@verizon.net > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message > > delivered to bob.no...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 build from purgatory!
Ah yes, thanks for that reminder. If it comes to that, is there a good way to smush a latching relay body without dangerously ripping the pins out of the board? I worry that crushing it with say a pair of pliers could stress the through-holes in the board. Or is it just not that strong? Thanks, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-build-from-purgatory-tp7616239p7616253.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
yes, that's what I'm trying to say - I'd rather the old waterfall bits track the new waterfall so the lines don't slant. You can see that in the video for the new MB1 transceiver, and that behavior makes more sense to me, or at least appeals to my sense of aesthetics. Bob W3DK > -Original Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave > Cole > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 1:51 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this? > > Hi, > > Sorry for making you turn it on... :) My waterfall does not track-- new > data is > inserted into a non tracking waterfall, so when I tune I get a slanting line > as I > expect from a dead carrier... > > I see no fragmenting, unless you are talking about the slanting line left in > the > Waterfall as you tune. > > Is this what you are indicating? Do you want the waterfall to track as well > as the > waveform above the waterfall? > > -- > 73's, and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z) > > For software/hardware reviews see: > http://www.nk7z.net > > For MixW support see: > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info > > For SSTV help see: > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info > > > On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 12:27 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: > > you're gonna make me turn it on, aren't you. Fix-Track mode, where > > the spectrum moves when you tune the radio. The waterfall that's > > already fell stays where it is and the new waterfall line moves with > > the spectrum. I think it'd be better If the whole waterfall moved with > > the spectrum. Bob W3DK > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf > > > Of Dave Cole > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:17 PM > > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this? > > > > > > On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:36 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: > > > I think that's an > > > improvement over the equivalent mode on the P3 where the waterfall > > > fractures when you tune the radio. > > > > > > Bob W3DK > > > > > > Hi Bob, > > > What mode are you talking about? I don't seem to remember anything > > > but smooth movement of my Waterfall on my P3... Perhaps I am not in > > > the same mode you are talking about? > > > -- > > > 73's, and thanks, > > > Dave (NK7Z) > > > > > > For software/hardware reviews see: > > > http://www.nk7z.net > > > > > > For MixW support see: > > > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info > > > > > > For SSTV help see: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:36 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: > > > I think that's an improvement over the equivalent mode on the P3 > > > where the waterfall fractures when you tune the radio. > > > > > > Bob W3DK > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > > > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > > bob.no...@verizon.net > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to bob.no...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
Hi, Sorry for making you turn it on... :) My waterfall does not track-- new data is inserted into a non tracking waterfall, so when I tune I get a slanting line as I expect from a dead carrier... I see no fragmenting, unless you are talking about the slanting line left in the Waterfall as you tune. Is this what you are indicating? Do you want the waterfall to track as well as the waveform above the waterfall? -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net For MixW support see: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info For SSTV help see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 12:27 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: > you're gonna make me turn it on, aren't you. Fix-Track mode, where > the spectrum moves when you tune the radio. The waterfall that's > already fell stays where it is and the new waterfall line moves with > the spectrum. I think it'd be better If the whole waterfall moved > with the spectrum. Bob W3DK > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf > > Of Dave > > Cole > > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:17 PM > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this? > > > > On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:36 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: > > I think that's an > > improvement over the equivalent mode > > on the P3 where the waterfall > > fractures when you tune the radio. > > > > Bob W3DK > > > > Hi Bob, > > What mode are you talking about? I don't seem to remember anything > > but > > smooth movement of my Waterfall on my P3... Perhaps I am not in > > the same > > mode you are talking about? > > -- > > 73's, and thanks, > > Dave (NK7Z) > > > > For software/hardware reviews see: > > http://www.nk7z.net > > > > For MixW support see: > > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info > > > > For SSTV help see: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info > > > > > > On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:36 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: > > I think that's an improvement over the equivalent mode on the P3 > > where the > > waterfall fractures when you tune the radio. > > > > Bob W3DK > > > > > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message > > delivered to bob.no...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 build from purgatory!
LS and all, Perhaps it is time for a repeat of the following information -- When removing parts from a populated board, it is good to keep in mind that keeping the board and it thru-plated holes intact is the most important thing. While it is *nice* to be able to remove the part intact, there is no need for that. If the de-soldering does not respond to whatever methods you have available, then crush the part with whatever tool works and remove its pins one at a time. Clean up with solder wick and if solder still remains in the holes, heat the solder pad and push a wooden toothpick or stainless steel needle through the hole to clear the solder. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/12/2016 10:54 AM, lstavenhagen wrote: So I get to practice my difficult-to-remove-part removal skills to replace it! All this of course, a warning to everyone to not ever "press on" with a build when one is tired. That's how I managed to burn the corner off the relay while soldering in another component on the board, I just wasn't paying attention to where the iron was going! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Setting RF gain & AGC correctly
Yes, I've heard about those amazing EME guys. I guess if you can copy signals below the noise you know who you are, and you can ignore guys like me! I have been, of course, referring not to soundcard-decoded modes but to human ear-decoded modes, using a speaker or headphones. This is the scenario my calculations were based on. I thank GM3SEK for clarifying that his post was an attempt at helping only the "pileup mush" guys, and point taken. The issue of setting your AGC correctly, however, applies in all situations. Modern receivers have specs that differ by only a few dB. And yet, they sound radically different. Why? Could it be that, more than anything else, it's the AGC that makes or breaks them? All the parameters that describe an AGC system conspire to give a receiver its characteristic "sound", and that sound ends up being something we like, something leading to listener's fatigue, or something in between. These factors determine not only how a receiver deals with signals, but how it deals with noise. A well-behaved AGC can sound incredibly smooth. Poor (or misadjusted) AGC systems have probably caused many hams to sell otherwise good radios. I have a few receivers here in the shack, and they all sound *totally different*. Some tire me out after a few minutes and I can listen to others all day and still enjoy what I hear. Many modern receivers expose AGC parameters to the user and allow him or her a wide range of adjustment of those parameters. I'm starting to suspect that incorrect settings have caused many people to dismiss the K3 as "bad" or "noisy" or "fatiguing". I happen to believe that the K3's AGC system is one of the best out there. But rather than force that opinion on anyone else, I usually encourage them to put the time into understanding and then setting their AGC parameters to try and capture that sound we all strive for. If you do this-- and use only as much gain as you need-- I really believe you'll enjoy your K3 more. Al W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] P3 w TX MON option - flashing display?
Is there anybody else out there with a P3 (with TX MON option installed) that sometimes notices intermittent flashing of the P3 display? I only see the intermittent flashing when the directional coupler is cabled to the P3. Elecraft support has never heard of this so I'm just wondering if anybody else has ever seen this? Please drop me an email if you have ever seen it. 73, Barry N1EU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
This is what I hope they fix in Win4k3Suite. Bugs the you know what out of me. -Bob N3XKB On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Bob Novaswrote: > you're gonna make me turn it on, aren't you. Fix-Track mode, where the > spectrum moves when you tune the radio. The waterfall that's already fell > stays where it is and the new waterfall line moves with the spectrum. I > think it'd be better If the whole waterfall moved with the spectrum. Bob > W3DK > > > -Original Message- > > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > Dave > > Cole > > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:17 PM > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this? > > > > On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:36 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: > > I think that's an > > improvement over the equivalent mode > > on the P3 where the waterfall > > fractures when you tune the radio. > > > > Bob W3DK > > > > Hi Bob, > > What mode are you talking about? I don't seem to remember anything but > > smooth movement of my Waterfall on my P3... Perhaps I am not in the same > > mode you are talking about? > > -- > > 73's, and thanks, > > Dave (NK7Z) > > > > For software/hardware reviews see: > > http://www.nk7z.net > > > > For MixW support see: > > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info > > > > For SSTV help see: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info > > > > > > On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:36 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: > > I think that's an improvement over the equivalent mode on the P3 where > the > > waterfall fractures when you tune the radio. > > > > Bob W3DK > > > > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > > delivered to bob.no...@verizon.net > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rdarling...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
you're gonna make me turn it on, aren't you. Fix-Track mode, where the spectrum moves when you tune the radio. The waterfall that's already fell stays where it is and the new waterfall line moves with the spectrum. I think it'd be better If the whole waterfall moved with the spectrum. Bob W3DK > -Original Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave > Cole > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:17 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this? > > On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:36 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: > I think that's an > improvement over the equivalent mode > on the P3 where the waterfall > fractures when you tune the radio. > > Bob W3DK > > Hi Bob, > What mode are you talking about? I don't seem to remember anything but > smooth movement of my Waterfall on my P3... Perhaps I am not in the same > mode you are talking about? > -- > 73's, and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z) > > For software/hardware reviews see: > http://www.nk7z.net > > For MixW support see: > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info > > For SSTV help see: > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info > > > On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:36 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: > I think that's an improvement over the equivalent mode on the P3 where the > waterfall fractures when you tune the radio. > > Bob W3DK > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to bob.no...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:36 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: I think that's an improvement over the equivalent mode on the P3 where the waterfall fractures when you tune the radio. Bob W3DK Hi Bob, What mode are you talking about? I don't seem to remember anything but smooth movement of my Waterfall on my P3... Perhaps I am not in the same mode you are talking about? -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net For MixW support see: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info For SSTV help see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:36 -0400, Bob Novas wrote: I think that's an improvement over the equivalent mode on the P3 where the waterfall fractures when you tune the radio. Bob W3DK > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] OT: HF weather fax
Clint, I just posted my experiences about receiving WEFAX images from the NWS on my blog. I've never received WEFAX images before today, so I am a complete novice to it. I used FLDIGI and a direct audio connection between my KX3 and computer. Pictures of WEFAX reception I copied are from NWS Point Reyes, California (NMC) are posted on the blog to view. >From a complete novice perspective and by the virtue of not needing any additional hardware for an interface, I dont think it gets any easier than using FLDIGI. http://n5xlhamradio.blogspot.com/ 73, Dave N5XL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KXV3A - Xverter pwa
Hello All, I am in need of the older KXV3A – I’m running this K3 with atransverter and Don’t need the extra pre-amp. Please email direct, my email is good on qrz. Thanks Ken K5DNL/WG2XXM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
Something I noticed from the video that I like is that the entire waterfall display moves when you tune the radio -the waterfall doesn't smoosh out over the screen. I think that's an improvement over the equivalent mode on the P3 where the waterfall fractures when you tune the radio. Bob W3DK > -Original Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David > Pratt > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 11:07 AM > To: Dan Atchison via Elecraft > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this? > > You will have to wait until the Dayton hamvention to find out. > > 73 de David G4DMP > > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 09:49:31 -0400 > Dan Atchison via Elecraftwrote: > > > The MB1 Transceiver > > > > http://sunsdr.eu/product/mb1/ > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to bob.no...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
You will have to wait until the Dayton hamvention to find out. 73 de David G4DMP On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 09:49:31 -0400 Dan Atchison via Elecraftwrote: > The MB1 Transceiver > > http://sunsdr.eu/product/mb1/ > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
Interesting, but I would have the following concerns just right off the bat: - looks huge and therefore possibly fragile. Would it be able to stand up to /p and dxpedition shipping/handling? - oh lordy the bugs, the bugs An entire computer inside a rig could also be a really buggy affair, and a LOT of software development/support infrastructure required at Ele. - the touch-screen issue that has been the subject of other threads. Restraint and careful design would be required. So those would be the negatives I would worry about off the top of my head. As for the positives, neat idea! Eliminating the external computer I think would be a great idea. An opportunity might exist for a happy medium in the "K4"? 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Will-the-K4-look-like-this-tp7616238p7616240.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Old K1 rev. manuals archive
I edited the manual URL to list the directory. I see a manual for rev F, which might be close enough. http://www.elecraft.com/manual/ It looks like there are two naming conventions for the K1 manual, so keep looking through that directory. I see these two early ones: E740016E_K1_Rev_F-5.pdf K1_manual_rev_F.pdf wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Apr 12, 2016, at 1:20 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SISwrote: > > Hi folks, > > I am so sorry to bother over there. > > My 14yrs old son Jakub got last week as the gift from our common friend in > DL non-working K1 (2-bands basic model 40/20m). This little radio was > declared as non-working with very bad soldering job from preview owner > (bought on eBay) to be repaired. > > At home we found that it is just basic RF board + 2-bands 40/20m filter > board only, no options. On the RF board (if I remember well) we found that > it is K1 RF 2000 rev.D so it is pretty early model. > > I would like to ask if there is possible to somewhere find the older > assembly manuals revisions (2000 rev.D)please? We will need it for debugging > the K1. > > I tried to find it on Elecraft web but no success... > > Many thanks, > 73 - Petr, OK1RP > > > > - > http://ok1rp.blogspot.com > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Old-K1-rev-manuals-archive-tp7616232.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K2 build from purgatory!
Well, more kudos to Elecraft support are in order, so just want to give credit where exceptional credit is due. My second K2 build is going nowhere as smoothly as my first one: I somehow managed to lose D36, the SMT PIN diode and didn't discover that it was actually gone from my table until I got to that installation step. Prior to that, though, I managed to burn a pretty decent corner off one of the latching relays on the board. So I get to practice my difficult-to-remove-part removal skills to replace it! All this of course, a warning to everyone to not ever "press on" with a build when one is tired. That's how I managed to burn the corner off the relay while soldering in another component on the board, I just wasn't paying attention to where the iron was going! As for D36, I must have flicked it off the table at some point in the past and where she went, nobody knows. Despite all that, I'm still having a wonderful time with this build and have learnt more in the process than I think I ever did on any other project I've done. So I emailed pa...@elecraft.com with my tail between my legs this weekend - I think they all know me there now LOL - and they sent me replacements yesterday, pretty much taking care of it right as they opened for business. So I should have the replacement parts in hand on Thurs. Can't get better service than that! Only a couple more parts and the receiver will be finished. If I made any goofs so far, well, I suppose I'll find out soon enough. Tnx to Elecraft and 73 LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-build-from-purgatory-tp7616239.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Will the K4 look like this?
The MB1 Transceiver http://sunsdr.eu/product/mb1/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help with K3, SignaLink USB and Fldigi!
I have the K3s and I use the USB interface from the KIO3B (Audio/Digital I/O). This interface acts like a USB to-Serial Adapter USB Audio Codec and supplies a microphone input, speaker output and a USB Serial Port (i.e. COM1)… making the process quite simple... needing only the USB cable. So if you change to this setup, I can help (with documents, suggestions and explanations) since I just successfully connected to Fldigi to K3s using Windows 10. Howard 4x1zz -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Help-with-K3-SignaLink-USB-and-Fldigi-tp7608033p7616237.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 mic
Steve, The K2 can be configured to use several different microphones. You will have to examine the microphone configuration header on the back of the front panel to determine which microphone that K2 is set up to use. See the KSB2 manual for how it can be wired for the various microphones. You may wish to rewire the microphone configuration header so she can use that Yaesu microphone. If you do not know how to open the K2 and remove the front panel, you can use my instructions intended for gaining access to the headphone jack at http://www.qsl.net/wy3a/Replace_K2_Headphone_Jack.htm - you don't have to replace the jack, but the instructions for disassembling the K2 are the same. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/12/2016 7:18 AM, myf...@nc.rr.com wrote: I very recently purchased a K2 for my XYL. It comes with a handful of internal options but no mic. What kind of mic do you use and do you recommend it? She does not want a head set. Her old HF is a Yaesu FT-840 and it has a very nice desk mic, which she has enjoyed using for just over 22 years. 73, Steve KI4EZL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w3...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K2 mic
I very recently purchased a K2 for my XYL. It comes with a handful of internal options but no mic. What kind of mic do you use and do you recommend it? She does not want a head set. Her old HF is a Yaesu FT-840 and it has a very nice desk mic, which she has enjoyed using for just over 22 years. 73, Steve KI4EZL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Fldigi & K3S USB, Windows 10 setup
To Don W3FPR, From Howard 4x1zz, Tnx for your explanation concerning connecting Fldigi and the K3s's USB Audio Codec soundcard, it certainly simplified the matter. I did manage to get it working just before receiving your response and now with your explanation I reread past forum discussions and various manuals and put certain doubts to rest. The USB Audio Codec showed as an available soundcard… no problem here. My guess is that the driver was previously installed when I used the K3 Utility's terminal mode (de Elecraft). My problem was solved when I checked off (chose) "PTT via Hamlib command" (under Fldigi Configuration/RIG/Hamlib) AND no other option was checked off. Previously I tried (unsuccessfully) many different combinations of RTS, DTR and VOX settings. Now with the above "PTT via Hamlib command" checked & the PPT-KEY is set to OFF-OFF (under DATA A)… and all is working fine. You did mention that I can use these other PTT options but I will need more of an understanding before implementing these "other" PTT methods. Since my goal was Hellschreiber (Feld Hell) I knew to use DATA A (I've read that compression & TX/RX equalization are turned off in DATA A). I am also aware the DATA A parameters need to be setup for each band. I set the bandwidth wide for receiving. (At a later date I'll experiment with CW and Fldigi, but for now I do not have a use for it… except curiosity). I didn't see that the filters & bandwidth settings defaults to a narrow width (as you mentioned)… I've only experienced the DATA A remembering my last settings… but I'll look out for this. I did not adjust the LINE OUT (LIN OUT) level and kept it at the default setting of NOR 10. There is a warning (in the manual) that levels above 10 might overdrive the soundcard and other bad side effects. With some experience I'll understand better how to monitor the signal using the PC via the proper background/signal color in the FLdigi waterfall that you mentioned. The TX Test mode is a good and convenient feature, I've used it during this setup and in the past. I set the soundcard's output level, via the computer so that the ALC level showed 4 bars with the fifth flickering… the level happened to be 75%. Yes, if a cable is plugged into the LINE IN jack on the back of the K3S, the K3S's soundcard will not see the USB's input, even if opposite end of the cable is not attached to the computer. I made my first QSO on this mode, FELD HELL (Hellschreiber), to Canada (14.074 MHz)… exciting is an understatement! Thank you DON, W3FPR for assistance, patience, valuable time and kindness. Sincerely, Howard 4x1zz -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Re-Fldigi-K3S-USB-Windows-10-setup-tp7616229p7616233.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Old K1 rev. manuals archive
Hi folks, I am so sorry to bother over there. My 14yrs old son Jakub got last week as the gift from our common friend in DL non-working K1 (2-bands basic model 40/20m). This little radio was declared as non-working with very bad soldering job from preview owner (bought on eBay) to be repaired. At home we found that it is just basic RF board + 2-bands 40/20m filter board only, no options. On the RF board (if I remember well) we found that it is K1 RF 2000 rev.D so it is pretty early model. I would like to ask if there is possible to somewhere find the older assembly manuals revisions (2000 rev.D)please? We will need it for debugging the K1. I tried to find it on Elecraft web but no success... Many thanks, 73 - Petr, OK1RP - http://ok1rp.blogspot.com -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Old-K1-rev-manuals-archive-tp7616232.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com