Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X and K3S Tx

[Nr4c]

It isn't supposed activate the auto-tune. It provides a TX signal to allow you 
to adjust your ALC and maybe check SWR.  If you want to use ATU, just tap Tune 
button on K3. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 17, 2016, at 9:50 PM, MaverickNH  wrote:
> 
> Hey Kevin - sorry, edited my post to note I'm being heard while you were
> replying. Sorry about that - your comment were otherwise on the mark.
> 
> One remaining niggle - the WSJT-X "Tune" option in Band Hopping doesn't seem
> to trigger my K3S ATU TUNE. Not sure why...
> 
> Bret/N4SRN
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

[kev...@coho.net]

Good Evening,

 Propagation continues to be poor but the changing seasons bring 
more hours of darkness, maybe that will help.  However, noise has been 
dropping too so it's easier to hear weaker stations.  Things balance out.


   Autumn is here in the mountains.  Those trees which can change color 
are doing so.  The bird population is also changing as more species move 
lower.  The pileated woodpeckers are still here causing quite a racket 
but there was a barred owl last night which was quite loud.  It must 
have been right over the house.


Please join us tomorrow on:

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
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Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X and K3S Tx

[Don Wilhelm]

Bret,

Reduce the soundcard level setting in your computer so you have a 
greater range of control with the MIC Gain setting.

Adjust so you get 4 bars solid with the 5th bar flashing.
7 bars is too much - you are driving into the ALC region.
The No ALC point for the K3 and K3S is at the 5th bar.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/17/2016 4:37 PM, MaverickNH wrote:

Thanks for the replies all. Just back from travel - sorry for the silence.

OK - on DATA A now and getting Rx on the waterfall. So Rx but no Tx.

Nothing plugged to rear LINE IN jack, and MIC SEL to LInE In. The MIC level
was indeed low, and bumping it to level 6 yields an ALC meter raeding of 7
bars when in select TUNE from WSJT-X app. I hear the tone through my
headphones, which might not be right - or is that just monitor?




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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 paddle problem

[Walter Underwood]

That awl on my Boy Scout knife? The end works pretty well as an emergency 
Phillips screwdriver.

wunder
K6WRU
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> On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:32 PM, K9ZTV  wrote:
> 
> Temporary emergency solution:  eye-glass kit containing small Phillips 
> screwdriver available at any convenience store, airport, hotel, notions 
> counter, drug store, etc.
> 
> Permanent but removable solution: screw-threads lightly coated with Loctite 
> Blue (not Loctite Red).
> 
> Kent  K9ZTV
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Peter LaBissoniere  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the same issue. I'm thinking the little screws are too small to 
>> handle the constant side "attack" pressure of keying from higher up on the 
>> posts. I'm afraid I will crack the lexan/plastic if tightened to much and 
>> won't help for long anyway. Seems they should have also been secured at the 
>> top?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Converse, Robert 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A few weeks ago there was some discussion regarding the contact posts 
>>> coming loose on the KXPD2 paddles.  I keep experiencing this problem, and 
>>> can't keep the philips screws on the posts tight for long enough to get 
>>> through a QSO.
>>> 
>>> I'm reluctant to overtighten the screws or use Loc-tite, and wonder if 
>>> anyone has a fix for this problem.  I would prefer to avoid loss of use of 
>>> the paddles for the two-week round trip time to the factory and back to 
>>> Maryland.
>>> 
>>> Bob, WO3E
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X and K3S Tx

[MaverickNH]

Hey Kevin - sorry, edited my post to note I'm being heard while you were
replying. Sorry about that - your comment were otherwise on the mark.

One remaining niggle - the WSJT-X "Tune" option in Band Hopping doesn't seem
to trigger my K3S ATU TUNE. Not sure why...

Bret/N4SRN



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[Elecraft] Elecraft k-2 / 100 for sale

[Enzo Greco]

Selling my k2/100 in near mint condition.

 

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Stopped working on 40

[Robert Biamonte]

Thank you everyone for the all the answers!!  Everything is working again.  

vy 73
Rob W3OMW


> On Sep 17, 2016, at 9:02 PM, Jack Brindle  wrote:
> 
> Likewise make sure the K3 output power for 40 meters, for the KPA if you have 
> the per-band power set, has not been somehow set to zero.
> 
> - Jack, W6FB
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV  wrote:
>> 
>> If you have the KAT3 in the K3, make sure you haven't accidentally changed
>> the output to the SO239 which DOESN'T have the KPA500 attached. Changed by
>> tapping the ANT button. That setting is remembered by band. So if you
>> accidentally tap it, it's moved to the other SO239 on the back of K3, and
>> stays that way. Check anything that is remembered by band, including power
>> level settings.
>> 
>> 73, Guy.
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Robert Biamonte  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Yesterday all was fine, and today the KPA500 will not transmit on 40m.
>>> All other bands show normal operation and output. It is connected to a K3.
>>> Any thoughts before I open the covers?
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Rob W3OMW
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Stopped working on 40

[Robert Biamonte]

Thanks Mike for the quick response!  Ant 2 was selected for 40m. 
Ant 2 is my dummy load which I may have selected during the testing of the new 
Windom antenna.  All is well with the ether now.  *G*

very 73
Rob W3OMW

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Mike Flowers  wrote:
> 
> Hi Rob,
> 
> One of my embarrassing errors is that the K3's ANT selection is by band - so
> if you've inadvertently selected ANT2 for 40M, etc. no 40M RF may be getting
> to the KPA500.
> 
> Seems very odd that just 40M is not working.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, Past President - NCDXC 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> Robert
>> Biamonte
>> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 5:24 PM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Stopped working on 40
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Yesterday all was fine, and today the KPA500 will not transmit on 40m.
>> All other bands show normal operation and output. It is connected to a K3.
> Any
>> thoughts before I open the covers?
>> 
>> 73,
>> Rob W3OMW
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Stopped working on 40

[Robert Biamonte]

Sorry , I meant to type Guy…. Thank you for the quick response



> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV  wrote:
> 
> If you have the KAT3 in the K3, make sure you haven't accidentally changed 
> the output to the SO239 which DOESN'T have the KPA500 attached. Changed by 
> tapping the ANT button. That setting is remembered by band. So if you 
> accidentally tap it, it's moved to the other SO239 on the back of K3, and 
> stays that way. Check anything that is remembered by band, including power 
> level settings. 
> 
> 73, Guy. 
> 
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Robert Biamonte  > wrote:
> Hello,
> Yesterday all was fine, and today the KPA500 will not transmit on 40m.
> All other bands show normal operation and output. It is connected to a K3. 
> Any thoughts before I open the covers?
> 
> 73,
> Rob W3OMW
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Stopped working on 40

[Jack Brindle]

Likewise make sure the K3 output power for 40 meters, for the KPA if you have 
the per-band power set, has not been somehow set to zero.

- Jack, W6FB

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV  wrote:
> 
> If you have the KAT3 in the K3, make sure you haven't accidentally changed
> the output to the SO239 which DOESN'T have the KPA500 attached. Changed by
> tapping the ANT button. That setting is remembered by band. So if you
> accidentally tap it, it's moved to the other SO239 on the back of K3, and
> stays that way. Check anything that is remembered by band, including power
> level settings.
> 
> 73, Guy.
> 
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Robert Biamonte  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> Yesterday all was fine, and today the KPA500 will not transmit on 40m.
>> All other bands show normal operation and output. It is connected to a K3.
>> Any thoughts before I open the covers?
>> 
>> 73,
>> Rob W3OMW
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Stopped working on 40

[Robert Biamonte]

Thanks Gary!  Ant 2 was selected for 40m. Ant 2 is my dummy load which I may 
have selected during the testing of the new Windom antenna.  All is well with 
the ether now.  *G*

very 73
Rob W3OMW


> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV  wrote:
> 
> If you have the KAT3 in the K3, make sure you haven't accidentally changed 
> the output to the SO239 which DOESN'T have the KPA500 attached. Changed by 
> tapping the ANT button. That setting is remembered by band. So if you 
> accidentally tap it, it's moved to the other SO239 on the back of K3, and 
> stays that way. Check anything that is remembered by band, including power 
> level settings. 
> 
> 73, Guy. 
> 
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Robert Biamonte  > wrote:
> Hello,
> Yesterday all was fine, and today the KPA500 will not transmit on 40m.
> All other bands show normal operation and output. It is connected to a K3. 
> Any thoughts before I open the covers?
> 
> 73,
> Rob W3OMW
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Stopped working on 40

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

If you have the KAT3 in the K3, make sure you haven't accidentally changed
the output to the SO239 which DOESN'T have the KPA500 attached. Changed by
tapping the ANT button. That setting is remembered by band. So if you
accidentally tap it, it's moved to the other SO239 on the back of K3, and
stays that way. Check anything that is remembered by band, including power
level settings.

73, Guy.

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Robert Biamonte  wrote:

> Hello,
> Yesterday all was fine, and today the KPA500 will not transmit on 40m.
> All other bands show normal operation and output. It is connected to a K3.
> Any thoughts before I open the covers?
>
> 73,
> Rob W3OMW
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 paddle problem

[K9ZTV]

Temporary emergency solution:  eye-glass kit containing small Phillips 
screwdriver available at any convenience store, airport, hotel, notions 
counter, drug store, etc.

Permanent but removable solution: screw-threads lightly coated with Loctite 
Blue (not Loctite Red).

Kent  K9ZTV



> On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Peter LaBissoniere  wrote:
> 
> I have the same issue. I'm thinking the little screws are too small to handle 
> the constant side "attack" pressure of keying from higher up on the posts. 
> I'm afraid I will crack the lexan/plastic if tightened to much and won't help 
> for long anyway. Seems they should have also been secured at the top?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Converse, Robert  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A few weeks ago there was some discussion regarding the contact posts coming 
>> loose on the KXPD2 paddles.  I keep experiencing this problem, and can't 
>> keep the philips screws on the posts tight for long enough to get through a 
>> QSO.
>> 
>> I'm reluctant to overtighten the screws or use Loc-tite, and wonder if 
>> anyone has a fix for this problem.  I would prefer to avoid loss of use of 
>> the paddles for the two-week round trip time to the factory and back to 
>> Maryland.
>> 
>> Bob, WO3E
>> 
>> 
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[Elecraft] KPA500 Stopped working on 40

[Robert Biamonte]

Hello,
Yesterday all was fine, and today the KPA500 will not transmit on 40m. 
All other bands show normal operation and output. It is connected to a K3. Any 
thoughts before I open the covers?

73,
Rob W3OMW

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[Elecraft] k2/k3

[WILLIE BABER]

Hello All,

I have been reading the mail of this reflector for some time, and thought I 
would join today and include my two cents; after all I own so2r K3/P3/K-Pod.  
However, I do enjoy other radios, mainly an IC 7600 which isn't a K-3 in 
handling strong signals but it does just fine here is rural Idaho, and the qsk 
is just as good.  Shamelessly, I like the colorful screen.

On K3 audio:  After finishing the build on a K2/100 recently (a field model 
purchased in 1998 and never completed) I was surprised at the overall 
performance of K2 and decided that K3 can have too much gain.  I now have no 
gain on each filter, and 2db on the 200 hz one.  If K3 seems noisy then after 
adjusting agc and RX EQ (like most others I have the cw offset at 500hz), you 
may want to use 0 gain on the filters.  Maybe this point about I-F gain has 
been covered but if so I don't recall reading about it. Moreover, I don't 
normally use a preamp 160m through 20m, except on beverages.

K2 does not have objectionable phase noise as I read somewhere, that noise is 
the need to do the keying modification.  K2 is a real sleeper of a radio, and 
it taught me something about K3.  Of course you have to build it, but K2 is 
contest competent though with far fewer features than K3.  

BTW, I had no difficulty getting the parts to finish K2, including the keying 
modification, 18 years later.  

73, Will, wj9b


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[Elecraft] Subject: Re: K3 audio quality

[John Freed]

I own a K3 ser#7028.  I will try the settings listed for the EQ for SSB.  I am 
also trying a mid-sized Bose amplified speaker (bought a refurbished one at the 
local Bose store).  I am using it in the Aux function plugged into the K3 audio 
out (speaker).  It does sound good.  The reason I did this is I bought an Icom 
7300 because of the SDR design and the monitor for audio and spectrum.  The 
unadjusted audio, EQ, of the 7300 had a marked difference (sounded good) in 
comparison my K3.  My K3 did not have any EQ adjustments so they were pretty 
much even in this sense.  Oh, by the way, the K3 is still my main rig. (Love 
It).  

73

John, KX6F
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[Elecraft] Questions about portable vertical and Super Antenna

[Steve via Elecraft]

In some recent postings about Super Antenna  and other portable  verticals, 
issues were raised about  a suitable counterpoise.  Please  excuse my 
callous and opportunistic plug for my (still in review but available)  
incursion 
into the question. It is posted at   http://www.eham.net/articles/37408
(Space Blanket Revisited).  It seems to load and work nicely with my KX1  and 
KX3 internal ATU's,  
 
VY 73 de W3UEC (Steve)
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[Elecraft] XG3 Calibration from 10MHz Standard?

[MaverickNH]

I'm not quite sure how to calibrate my XG3 against the 10MHz output of a
GPSDO. Appreciate help on correct tab, button, etc, or XG3 Utility and how
best to connect the GPSDO to XG3, or through my K3S which is connected to
the GPSDO.

Thanks, Bret/N4SRN



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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Quick question about portable vertical antenna

[rick jones via Elecraft]

Forgot to mention radials on the ground...
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 paddle problem

[Peter LaBissoniere]

I have the same issue. I'm thinking the little screws are too small to handle 
the constant side "attack" pressure of keying from higher up on the posts. I'm 
afraid I will crack the lexan/plastic if tightened to much and won't help for 
long anyway. Seems they should have also been secured at the top?

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> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Converse, Robert  
> wrote:
> 
> A few weeks ago there was some discussion regarding the contact posts coming 
> loose on the KXPD2 paddles.  I keep experiencing this problem, and can't keep 
> the philips screws on the posts tight for long enough to get through a QSO.
> 
> I'm reluctant to overtighten the screws or use Loc-tite, and wonder if anyone 
> has a fix for this problem.  I would prefer to avoid loss of use of the 
> paddles for the two-week round trip time to the factory and back to Maryland.
> 
> Bob, WO3E
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Quick question about portable vertical antenna

[Jim Rhodes]

Are you going to use them as raised radials or just lay them on the ground?
If you are using them as ground radials, just lay 4-6 25FT (or there
abouts) radials on the ground. Ground radials just are not resonant. Or
should I say that their apparent resonance changes with what they are
laying on.

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 4:02 PM, rick jones via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> I have one of those MFJ telescoping whips that extends to 1/4 wave on 20
> meters (40 with a coil). Instead of cutting a bunch of quarter wave radials
> for each band I'm going to press into service an SGC290 at the feedpoint
> and use 16, 30 foot radials instead. When using the tuner should I still
> "tune" the whip to my operating band or just leave it fully extended? In
> other words is a resonant vertical more efficient then a non resonant
> vertical with the same SGC and radials in place? Thanks!
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[Elecraft] [OT] Quick question about portable vertical antenna

[rick jones via Elecraft]

I have one of those MFJ telescoping whips that extends to 1/4 wave on 20 meters 
(40 with a coil). Instead of cutting a bunch of quarter wave radials for each 
band I'm going to press into service an SGC290 at the feedpoint and use 16, 30 
foot radials instead. When using the tuner should I still "tune" the whip to my 
operating band or just leave it fully extended? In other words is a resonant 
vertical more efficient then a non resonant vertical with the same SGC and 
radials in place? Thanks! 
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Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X and K3S Tx

[Kevin]

Sounds to me llike you have the wrong sound card line out setup.

When you plug the USB cable in the computer there should be three 
entries in device manager in control panel once the drivers are loaded. 
One under the "ports" heading which should say "USB serial port" write 
down the Com port number you're going to need it. The other two will be 
under the sound heading in device manager. One Microphone labeled USB 
Audio Codec, the other a Speaker with the same label. Make sure the 
Speaker with the USB Audio Codec label is set active instead of the 
onboard sound card of the computer.


That speaker setting is your line out level from the computer to the 
K3s. The microphone USB Codec is the line in level for the K3s to the 
computer. Both need to be enabled on the PC and levels set properly.


If you have two USB sound cards you need to figure out which one is the 
K3 and which is the computer.


This applies to a Windows 7 and up computer.


On 9/17/2016 3:37 PM, MaverickNH wrote:

Thanks for the replies all. Just back from travel - sorry for the silence.

OK - on DATA A now and getting Rx on the waterfall. So Rx but no Tx.

Nothing plugged to rear LINE IN jack, and MIC SEL to LInE In. The MIC level
was indeed low, and bumping it to level 6 yields an ALC meter raeding of 7
bars when in select TUNE from WSJT-X app. I hear the tone through my
headphones, which might not be right - or is that just monitor?

Bret/N4SRN





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Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X and K3S Tx

[MaverickNH]

Thanks for the replies all. Just back from travel - sorry for the silence.

OK - on DATA A now and getting Rx on the waterfall. So Rx but no Tx.

Nothing plugged to rear LINE IN jack, and MIC SEL to LInE In. The MIC level
was indeed low, and bumping it to level 6 yields an ALC meter raeding of 7
bars when in select TUNE from WSJT-X app. I hear the tone through my
headphones, which might not be right - or is that just monitor?

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[Elecraft] Classen

[Fred Jensen]

While building an irrigation controller for our 32 valves, I discovered 
it's a bit more complex than that.  Taking a clue from my analog-digital 
watch:


If clock is 1-29 sec ahead of WWV, pushing the button should set the 
seconds to zero.


If  clock is 1-30 sec behind WWV, pushing the button should set the 
seconds to zero and advance the min by 1.


It gets more complicated if your clock is more than 29 sec ahead or more 
than 30 sec behind WWV.  The easy solution is ... don't ever let that 
happen. :-))


73,

Fred K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

"Usefulness=log(technology)"

On 9/17/2016 5:22 AM, John Oppenheimer wrote:

Hi Wayne,

Sure would be nice if while in TIME MENU, pushing "3" would set seconds
to zero. This would make it much easier to hack to WWV. Or to maintain
backwards compatibility, program "4" as a seconds hack button.

John KN5L
KX2 #80


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Power Poles

[Ramon Tristani]

Just for info to all. I ordered the retention clip from Powerwerx and it fits 
very well. The connection to my K3  is now secure. 

Ramon

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> On Sep 13, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> I need to point out that those retention clips will work fine when you are 
> connecting two APP in-line connectors together, however, they cannot be 
> fitted to the K3/K3S APP connector because the "retainer pin" hole is not 
> accessible at the K3/K3S end.  They are fine for connecting one APP cable to 
> another, but in practice, I have not found them necessary.
> Properly assembled APP connectors will have a significant pullout force 
> requirement.  Pay attention to those who state they can move the K3 by 
> pulling on the cable - those folks have properly assembled APP connectors.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> If yours cannot do that, investigate the construction of your APP connectors.
> 
>> On 9/13/2016 10:01 PM, Dan Violette wrote:
>> And there are retention clips.  I have a couple black ones that came with
>> some order at one time (RigRunner I think).
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio quality

[Gary]

Ditto Jim

-Original Message-
From: "Jim Rhodes" 
Sent: ‎18/‎09/‎2016 4:51 AM
To: "Alan. G4GNX" 
Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio quality

Nothing to add except that I have never owned  tranceiver that did not
sound better on headphones or an external speaker(s).

On Sep 17, 2016 8:02 AM, "Alan. G4GNX"  wrote:

> Well guys (and gals) so far there have been 34 replies on this thread and
> I'm grateful for every one of them.
>
> I guess we need to try out forming some kind of hood to see if that will
> work for the complainers and if that fails we may need to try an external
> speaker.
>
> We actually had one guy last week (who is the main complainer) who boldly
> stated that he was a hi-fi buff and I just groaned silently! I also agree
> with the appliance-operator syndrome, where "it's no good unless it's
> totally plug and play"!
>
> Several points come to mind:
>
> The comparison with the IC7300 seems to be a fair one to me, because that
> rig also has an upward facing internal speaker and we did disconnect the
> external speaker to check. To my ears (and several others) the IC7300 had
> far better "quality" audio, but that said it is probably not optimum for
> Amateur communications, which is what many don't seem to realise is what we
> are 'actually' trying to achieve.
>
> It may pay us to find time to experiment with the DSP settings with the
> complainers in the same room but unable to see the adjustments, to see if
> they can be appeased, but I have my doubts because I suspect that the
> prejudice is already well entrenched.
>
> I brought the IC7300 home and compared it with my IC7100 and it didn't
> show a great deal of difference, perhaps slightly better because the IC7300
> is in a bigger enclosure. I haven't yet made a comparison with my own K3.
>
> One of the greatest problems with club owned equipment is the variation in
> members' preferences as well as poor test conditions. In a large room with
> many people, it's impossible to keep them all quiet and some folks seem to
> think it's OK to stand right next to the operator/s and discuss some other
> topic - LOUDLY. The only answer there seems to be headphones. The same goes
> for filed days/contests.
>
> Perhaps we should start to wind this thread up now before it outstays its
> welcome? :-)
>
> 73,
>
> Alan. G4GNX
>
> -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 1:58 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio quality
>
> I was not going to "chime in" on this thread because that "horse" has
> been thoroughly beat to death in the past.
>
> Let's face it, a small speaker like that used in the K3/K3S is not going
> to produce astounding bass and since it faces upwards away from your
> ears, the high frequency sounds are going to get lost.
> I believe it does exceptionally well for its size and quality.
>
> If you want good quality speaker audio from your K3/K3S, you are going
> to have to use external speakers - pick your quality there too.  I use a
> pair of old Radio Shack Optimus speakers that I picked up for cheap at a
> 2nd hand store.  The 4 inch drivers sound great with my K3, but being 4
> inch drivers they are not expected to produce 'resounding bass', but
> that is not required for communications.  The internal speaker sounds
> worse by comparison, but is usable if the external speakers are not
> available.
>
> So, if you are comparing the audio between two radios, don't rely on the
> internal speakers.  Connect each one to good quality speakers - that way
> you are comparing the radio's audio, and not the quality of the internal
> speakers.  Some radios produce better quality audio from their internal
> speakers than others - for instance the KX3 internal speaker is far
> inferior to the internal speaker used in the KX2.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio quality

[Jim Rhodes]

Nothing to add except that I have never owned  tranceiver that did not
sound better on headphones or an external speaker(s).

On Sep 17, 2016 8:02 AM, "Alan. G4GNX"  wrote:

> Well guys (and gals) so far there have been 34 replies on this thread and
> I'm grateful for every one of them.
>
> I guess we need to try out forming some kind of hood to see if that will
> work for the complainers and if that fails we may need to try an external
> speaker.
>
> We actually had one guy last week (who is the main complainer) who boldly
> stated that he was a hi-fi buff and I just groaned silently! I also agree
> with the appliance-operator syndrome, where "it's no good unless it's
> totally plug and play"!
>
> Several points come to mind:
>
> The comparison with the IC7300 seems to be a fair one to me, because that
> rig also has an upward facing internal speaker and we did disconnect the
> external speaker to check. To my ears (and several others) the IC7300 had
> far better "quality" audio, but that said it is probably not optimum for
> Amateur communications, which is what many don't seem to realise is what we
> are 'actually' trying to achieve.
>
> It may pay us to find time to experiment with the DSP settings with the
> complainers in the same room but unable to see the adjustments, to see if
> they can be appeased, but I have my doubts because I suspect that the
> prejudice is already well entrenched.
>
> I brought the IC7300 home and compared it with my IC7100 and it didn't
> show a great deal of difference, perhaps slightly better because the IC7300
> is in a bigger enclosure. I haven't yet made a comparison with my own K3.
>
> One of the greatest problems with club owned equipment is the variation in
> members' preferences as well as poor test conditions. In a large room with
> many people, it's impossible to keep them all quiet and some folks seem to
> think it's OK to stand right next to the operator/s and discuss some other
> topic - LOUDLY. The only answer there seems to be headphones. The same goes
> for filed days/contests.
>
> Perhaps we should start to wind this thread up now before it outstays its
> welcome? :-)
>
> 73,
>
> Alan. G4GNX
>
> -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 1:58 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio quality
>
> I was not going to "chime in" on this thread because that "horse" has
> been thoroughly beat to death in the past.
>
> Let's face it, a small speaker like that used in the K3/K3S is not going
> to produce astounding bass and since it faces upwards away from your
> ears, the high frequency sounds are going to get lost.
> I believe it does exceptionally well for its size and quality.
>
> If you want good quality speaker audio from your K3/K3S, you are going
> to have to use external speakers - pick your quality there too.  I use a
> pair of old Radio Shack Optimus speakers that I picked up for cheap at a
> 2nd hand store.  The 4 inch drivers sound great with my K3, but being 4
> inch drivers they are not expected to produce 'resounding bass', but
> that is not required for communications.  The internal speaker sounds
> worse by comparison, but is usable if the external speakers are not
> available.
>
> So, if you are comparing the audio between two radios, don't rely on the
> internal speakers.  Connect each one to good quality speakers - that way
> you are comparing the radio's audio, and not the quality of the internal
> speakers.  Some radios produce better quality audio from their internal
> speakers than others - for instance the KX3 internal speaker is far
> inferior to the internal speaker used in the KX2.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
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[Elecraft] KX3/PX3 package sold

[Tim Cook]

Thanks to all who responded.
Tim
NZ8J
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Re: [Elecraft] OT KX3 wannabe in photo of Qct QST

[Bob N3MNT]

What I found most ironic was the the facing page was a full page ad for the
Elecraft KX2/3




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[Elecraft] KWM-2 or HF-50 to drive the KPA-500

[k...@gmx.com]

Hi,
Although a Yaesu1200 will be the primary drive for KPA-500,
I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has used a KWM-2 with the KPA-500,
for CW and/or sideband.

Ditto from anyone who has used a Q-Mac HF-50 to drive the
KPA-500.
Thanks very much,
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio quality

[Alan. G4GNX]

Well guys (and gals) so far there have been 34 replies on this thread and 
I'm grateful for every one of them.


I guess we need to try out forming some kind of hood to see if that will 
work for the complainers and if that fails we may need to try an external 
speaker.


We actually had one guy last week (who is the main complainer) who boldly 
stated that he was a hi-fi buff and I just groaned silently! I also agree 
with the appliance-operator syndrome, where "it's no good unless it's 
totally plug and play"!


Several points come to mind:

The comparison with the IC7300 seems to be a fair one to me, because that 
rig also has an upward facing internal speaker and we did disconnect the 
external speaker to check. To my ears (and several others) the IC7300 had 
far better "quality" audio, but that said it is probably not optimum for 
Amateur communications, which is what many don't seem to realise is what we 
are 'actually' trying to achieve.


It may pay us to find time to experiment with the DSP settings with the 
complainers in the same room but unable to see the adjustments, to see if 
they can be appeased, but I have my doubts because I suspect that the 
prejudice is already well entrenched.


I brought the IC7300 home and compared it with my IC7100 and it didn't show 
a great deal of difference, perhaps slightly better because the IC7300 is in 
a bigger enclosure. I haven't yet made a comparison with my own K3.


One of the greatest problems with club owned equipment is the variation in 
members' preferences as well as poor test conditions. In a large room with 
many people, it's impossible to keep them all quiet and some folks seem to 
think it's OK to stand right next to the operator/s and discuss some other 
topic - LOUDLY. The only answer there seems to be headphones. The same goes 
for filed days/contests.


Perhaps we should start to wind this thread up now before it outstays its 
welcome? :-)


73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- 
From: Don Wilhelm

Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 1:58 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio quality

I was not going to "chime in" on this thread because that "horse" has
been thoroughly beat to death in the past.

Let's face it, a small speaker like that used in the K3/K3S is not going
to produce astounding bass and since it faces upwards away from your
ears, the high frequency sounds are going to get lost.
I believe it does exceptionally well for its size and quality.

If you want good quality speaker audio from your K3/K3S, you are going
to have to use external speakers - pick your quality there too.  I use a
pair of old Radio Shack Optimus speakers that I picked up for cheap at a
2nd hand store.  The 4 inch drivers sound great with my K3, but being 4
inch drivers they are not expected to produce 'resounding bass', but
that is not required for communications.  The internal speaker sounds
worse by comparison, but is usable if the external speakers are not
available.

So, if you are comparing the audio between two radios, don't rely on the
internal speakers.  Connect each one to good quality speakers - that way
you are comparing the radio's audio, and not the quality of the internal
speakers.  Some radios produce better quality audio from their internal
speakers than others - for instance the KX3 internal speaker is far
inferior to the internal speaker used in the KX2.

73,
Don W3FPR 


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Re: [Elecraft] OT KX3 wannabe in photo of Qct QST

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

Maybe they should have saved the pic for the April issue

Chas

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:10 AM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT KX3 wannabe in photo of Qct QST

Sure - mistakes happen. That is why you have proof readers - or, in this
case, should have proof readers.

Bill W2BLC K-Line
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[Elecraft] OT KX3 wannabe in photo of Qct QST

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Threads like this are a better indication of poor band conditions than the 
solar indices.

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>That was mighty lame.


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Re: [Elecraft] OT KX3 wannabe in photo of Qct QST

[Bill]

Sure - mistakes happen. That is why you have proof readers - or, in this 
case, should have proof readers.


Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] OT KX3 wannabe in photo of Qct QST

[Tom Francis]

Post production screwups happen all the time.  I had it happen to me 
when I was a Tech Editor

at QST in the mid-80's.

Stuff happens.  However, in this case, it might not have been, but 
always benefit of the doubt.


Tom,, W1TEF

On 9/16/2016 8:43 PM, Joe Reed wrote:

That was mighty lame.  From the photo it looks like an ancient Yaesu.  Hence 
the need for the Honda generator.

But hey, he got his 15 minutes of fame, along with unending mockery.  Perhaps a bit of 
grog with his "sustenance"?

What I find more annoying is the ARRL didn't vet the photo first before 
publishing. I thought hams used to work there. Oh well perhaps this is the new 
paradigm for ham radio journalism.

Joe N9JR

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 16, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Dave Richards  wrote:

Perhaps it was a very early pre-production model, before they had finished 
miniaturizing it sufficiently :-)

Dave
AA7EE


On 9/16/2016 12:44 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote:
In text for "A Radio by the Barbie" on page 20 of OCT QST the radio is listed
as a KX3, however radio in photo is definitely not a KX3.

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[Elecraft] KX2 KXIO2 Time Hack

[John Oppenheimer]

Hi Wayne,

Sure would be nice if while in TIME MENU, pushing "3" would set seconds
to zero. This would make it much easier to hack to WWV. Or to maintain
backwards compatibility, program "4" as a seconds hack button.

John KN5L
KX2 #80
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