[Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW
I have not used my K3 for CW, so I have no experience with it. So, a couple of days ago I decided to give it a try, after all - winter is coming. When I switched to CW mode - things got deathly quiet. Quiet as in all the background noise vanished - along with most of the signals. I could see them unchanged on the P3 - but, had to turn up the audio gain to hear them. With the audio gain up, I could hear everything that my other rigs were hearing - except no background noise. Compared to my past experience - this is not normal. I am using a K3 set up for SSB and only having the 2.7. 2.1, and 6 kc filters. Some ACG changes have been made to afford improved arm chair copy on 75 and 40 meters. My question: Have I been missing out on using the quietest CW rig ever made or is there something wrong with my receiver? It just seems too quiet. Thanks, Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW
Welcome to the K3 on CW! Yes, it is that quiet!! Try a KX3 it is even quieter!!! This radio opened a new world for me on CW a few years ago. Even though you don't have the CW filter, you can still utilize the filters you have, and DSP filtering to narrow your bandwidth down to 50 Hz. Your K3 is an amazing rig. Keith K9GL - Original Message - From: "Bill" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:33 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW I have not used my K3 for CW, so I have no experience with it. So, a couple of days ago I decided to give it a try, after all - winter is coming. When I switched to CW mode - things got deathly quiet. Quiet as in all the background noise vanished - along with most of the signals. I could see them unchanged on the P3 - but, had to turn up the audio gain to hear them. With the audio gain up, I could hear everything that my other rigs were hearing - except no background noise. Compared to my past experience - this is not normal. I am using a K3 set up for SSB and only having the 2.7. 2.1, and 6 kc filters. Some ACG changes have been made to afford improved arm chair copy on 75 and 40 meters. My question: Have I been missing out on using the quietest CW rig ever made or is there something wrong with my receiver? It just seems too quiet. Thanks, Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW
Make sure that your filter(s) are enabled for that mode... ;-) Rick NHC On 11/19/2016 10:16 AM, kbeck...@wi.rr.com wrote: Welcome to the K3 on CW! Yes, it is that quiet!! Try a KX3 it is even quieter!!! This radio opened a new world for me on CW a few years ago. Even though you don't have the CW filter, you can still utilize the filters you have, and DSP filtering to narrow your bandwidth down to 50 Hz. Your K3 is an amazing rig. Keith K9GL - Original Message - From: "Bill" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:33 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW I have not used my K3 for CW, so I have no experience with it. So, a couple of days ago I decided to give it a try, after all - winter is coming. When I switched to CW mode - things got deathly quiet. Quiet as in all the background noise vanished - along with most of the signals. I could see them unchanged on the P3 - but, had to turn up the audio gain to hear them. With the audio gain up, I could hear everything that my other rigs were hearing - except no background noise. Compared to my past experience - this is not normal. I am using a K3 set up for SSB and only having the 2.7. 2.1, and 6 kc filters. Some ACG changes have been made to afford improved arm chair copy on 75 and 40 meters. My question: Have I been missing out on using the quietest CW rig ever made or is there something wrong with my receiver? It just seems too quiet. Thanks, Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wa6...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW
Yes, you've been missing out on the quietest CW rig ever made. 73, Gary KA1J > I have not used my K3 for CW, so I have no experience with it. So, a > couple of days ago I decided to give it a try, after all - winter is > coming. > > When I switched to CW mode - things got deathly quiet. Quiet as in all > the background noise vanished - along with most of the signals. I > could see them unchanged on the P3 - but, had to turn up the audio > gain to hear them. With the audio gain up, I could hear everything > that my other rigs were hearing - except no background noise. Compared > to my past experience - this is not normal. > > I am using a K3 set up for SSB and only having the 2.7. 2.1, and 6 kc > filters. Some ACG changes have been made to afford improved arm chair > copy on 75 and 40 meters. > > My question: Have I been missing out on using the quietest CW rig ever > made or is there something wrong with my receiver? It just seems too > quiet. > > Thanks, > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to g...@ka1j.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW
I don't understand the term quiet in this instance because at HF our noise floor is limited by manmade, atmospheric and galactic noise. If your noise floor does not increase when you connect the antenna, something is likely set very wrong. Dale W4OP -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kbeck...@wi.rr.com Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 1:17 PM To: Bill Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW Welcome to the K3 on CW! Yes, it is that quiet!! Try a KX3 it is even quieter!!! This radio opened a new world for me on CW a few years ago. Even though you don't have the CW filter, you can still utilize the filters you have, and DSP filtering to narrow your bandwidth down to 50 Hz. Your K3 is an amazing rig. Keith K9GL - Original Message - From: "Bill" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:33 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW I have not used my K3 for CW, so I have no experience with it. So, a couple of days ago I decided to give it a try, after all - winter is coming. When I switched to CW mode - things got deathly quiet. Quiet as in all the background noise vanished - along with most of the signals. I could see them unchanged on the P3 - but, had to turn up the audio gain to hear them. With the audio gain up, I could hear everything that my other rigs were hearing - except no background noise. Compared to my past experience - this is not normal. I am using a K3 set up for SSB and only having the 2.7. 2.1, and 6 kc filters. Some ACG changes have been made to afford improved arm chair copy on 75 and 40 meters. My question: Have I been missing out on using the quietest CW rig ever made or is there something wrong with my receiver? It just seems too quiet. Thanks, Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pari...@frontier.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW
CW or maybe it's just because CW is quieter than SSB? Phil W7OX-- Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Nov 19, 2016, at 10:59, Dale Parfitt wrote: > > I don't understand the term quiet in this instance because at HF our noise > floor is limited by manmade, atmospheric and galactic noise. If your noise > floor does not increase when you connect the antenna, something is likely > set very wrong. > > Dale W4OP > > -Original Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > kbeck...@wi.rr.com > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 1:17 PM > To: Bill > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW > > Welcome to the K3 on CW! > > Yes, it is that quiet!! Try a KX3 it is even quieter!!! > > This radio opened a new world for me on CW a few years ago. > > Even though you don't have the CW filter, you can still utilize the filters > you have, and DSP filtering to narrow your bandwidth down to 50 Hz. > > Your K3 is an amazing rig. > > Keith > K9GL > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:33 AM > Subject: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW > > > I have not used my K3 for CW, so I have no experience with it. So, a > couple of days ago I decided to give it a try, after all - winter is > coming. > > When I switched to CW mode - things got deathly quiet. Quiet as in all > the background noise vanished - along with most of the signals. I could > see them unchanged on the P3 - but, had to turn up the audio gain to > hear them. With the audio gain up, I could hear everything that my other > rigs were hearing - except no background noise. Compared to my past > experience - this is not normal. > > I am using a K3 set up for SSB and only having the 2.7. 2.1, and 6 kc > filters. Some ACG changes have been made to afford improved arm chair > copy on 75 and 40 meters. > > My question: Have I been missing out on using the quietest CW rig ever > made or is there something wrong with my receiver? It just seems too quiet. > > Thanks, > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > > ___ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW
Bill, If you have your 2.7 and 2.1 roofing filters (not the 6kHz) enabled for CW, all should be well. The total noise heard should be reduced as the DSP bandwidth is reduced because the noise bandwidth is narrowed as well. However signals which are tuned to the PITCH you have set (default is 600Hz) should not be weaker than they are in a wider bandwidth. Try using the WIDTH knob to increase the DSP bandwidth, and you should hear the total band noise increase. Yes, the K3 is quiet as far as hearing the internal receiver noise (what you hear when the antenna is removed). When you attach the antenna, you should hear an increase in total noise if all is well - how much will depend on the DSP bandwidth that is set. Remember that many SSB stations are running high power, while many CW stations are running low power - that may be part of the difference you are hearing. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/19/2016 12:33 PM, Bill wrote: I have not used my K3 for CW, so I have no experience with it. So, a couple of days ago I decided to give it a try, after all - winter is coming. When I switched to CW mode - things got deathly quiet. Quiet as in all the background noise vanished - along with most of the signals. I could see them unchanged on the P3 - but, had to turn up the audio gain to hear them. With the audio gain up, I could hear everything that my other rigs were hearing - except no background noise. Compared to my past experience - this is not normal. I am using a K3 set up for SSB and only having the 2.7. 2.1, and 6 kc filters. Some ACG changes have been made to afford improved arm chair copy on 75 and 40 meters. My question: Have I been missing out on using the quietest CW rig ever made or is there something wrong with my receiver? It just seems too quiet. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW
Also be sure you don't have the NR turned on by accident. In my experience there is not a signifiant difference in audio amplitude of a signal in CW mode at 500Hz vs SSB mode at 500Hz when you adjust for the CW offset. 73, Matt NQ6N On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Bill, > > If you have your 2.7 and 2.1 roofing filters (not the 6kHz) enabled for > CW, all should be well. > The total noise heard should be reduced as the DSP bandwidth is reduced > because the noise bandwidth is narrowed as well. > However signals which are tuned to the PITCH you have set (default is > 600Hz) should not be weaker than they are in a wider bandwidth. > Try using the WIDTH knob to increase the DSP bandwidth, and you should > hear the total band noise increase. > > Yes, the K3 is quiet as far as hearing the internal receiver noise (what > you hear when the antenna is removed). When you attach the antenna, you > should hear an increase in total noise if all is well - how much will > depend on the DSP bandwidth that is set. > > Remember that many SSB stations are running high power, while many CW > stations are running low power - that may be part of the difference you are > hearing. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 11/19/2016 12:33 PM, Bill wrote: > >> I have not used my K3 for CW, so I have no experience with it. So, a >> couple of days ago I decided to give it a try, after all - winter is >> coming. >> >> When I switched to CW mode - things got deathly quiet. Quiet as in all >> the background noise vanished - along with most of the signals. I could >> see them unchanged on the P3 - but, had to turn up the audio gain to >> hear them. With the audio gain up, I could hear everything that my other >> rigs were hearing - except no background noise. Compared to my past >> experience - this is not normal. >> >> I am using a K3 set up for SSB and only having the 2.7. 2.1, and 6 kc >> filters. Some ACG changes have been made to afford improved arm chair >> copy on 75 and 40 meters. >> >> My question: Have I been missing out on using the quietest CW rig ever >> made or is there something wrong with my receiver? It just seems too >> quiet. >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to m...@nq6n.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW
Only if the bandwidth is narrower (all things being equal, there is no difference in noise floor between SSB and CW if the bandwidth is identical) Ken At 11:11 AM 11/19/2016, Phil Wheeler wrote: CW or maybe it's just because CW is quieter than SSB? Phil W7OX-- Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Nov 19, 2016, at 10:59, Dale Parfitt wrote: > > I don't understand the term quiet in this instance because at HF our noise > floor is limited by manmade, atmospheric and galactic noise. If your noise > floor does not increase when you connect the antenna, something is likely > set very wrong. > > Dale W4OP > > -Original Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > kbeck...@wi.rr.com > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 1:17 PM > To: Bill > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW > > Welcome to the K3 on CW! > > Yes, it is that quiet!! Try a KX3 it is even quieter!!! > > This radio opened a new world for me on CW a few years ago. > > Even though you don't have the CW filter, you can still utilize the filters > you have, and DSP filtering to narrow your bandwidth down to 50 Hz. > > Your K3 is an amazing rig. > > Keith > K9GL > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:33 AM > Subject: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW > > > I have not used my K3 for CW, so I have no experience with it. So, a > couple of days ago I decided to give it a try, after all - winter is > coming. > > When I switched to CW mode - things got deathly quiet. Quiet as in all > the background noise vanished - along with most of the signals. I could > see them unchanged on the P3 - but, had to turn up the audio gain to > hear them. With the audio gain up, I could hear everything that my other > rigs were hearing - except no background noise. Compared to my past > experience - this is not normal. > > I am using a K3 set up for SSB and only having the 2.7. 2.1, and 6 kc > filters. Some ACG changes have been made to afford improved arm chair > copy on 75 and 40 meters. > > My question: Have I been missing out on using the quietest CW rig ever > made or is there something wrong with my receiver? It just seems too quiet. > > Thanks, > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > > ___ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@arcomcontrollers.com -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW
Of course, and I assume he's using bandwidth control to do that. Phil -- Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Nov 19, 2016, at 12:15, Ken Arck wrote: > > Only if the bandwidth is narrower > > (all things being equal, there is no difference in noise floor between SSB > and CW if the bandwidth is identical) > > Ken > > > At 11:11 AM 11/19/2016, Phil Wheeler wrote: >> CW or maybe it's just because CW is quieter than SSB? >> >> Phil W7OX-- Sent from my iPhone 5S >> >> > On Nov 19, 2016, at 10:59, Dale Parfitt wrote: >> > >> > I don't understand the term quiet in this instance because at HF our noise >> > floor is limited by manmade, atmospheric and galactic noise. If your noise >> > floor does not increase when you connect the antenna, something is likely >> > set very wrong. >> > >> > Dale W4OP >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of >> > kbeck...@wi.rr.com >> > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 1:17 PM >> > To: Bill >> > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW >> > >> > Welcome to the K3 on CW! >> > >> > Yes, it is that quiet!! Try a KX3 it is even quieter!!! >> > >> > This radio opened a new world for me on CW a few years ago. >> > >> > Even though you don't have the CW filter, you can still utilize the filters >> > you have, and DSP filtering to narrow your bandwidth down to 50 Hz. >> > >> > Your K3 is an amazing rig. >> > >> > Keith >> > K9GL >> > >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Bill" >> > To: >> > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:33 AM >> > Subject: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW >> > >> > >> > I have not used my K3 for CW, so I have no experience with it. So, a >> > couple of days ago I decided to give it a try, after all - winter is >> > coming. >> > >> > When I switched to CW mode - things got deathly quiet. Quiet as in all >> > the background noise vanished - along with most of the signals. I could >> > see them unchanged on the P3 - but, had to turn up the audio gain to >> > hear them. With the audio gain up, I could hear everything that my other >> > rigs were hearing - except no background noise. Compared to my past >> > experience - this is not normal. >> > >> > I am using a K3 set up for SSB and only having the 2.7. 2.1, and 6 kc >> > filters. Some ACG changes have been made to afford improved arm chair >> > copy on 75 and 40 meters. >> > >> > My question: Have I been missing out on using the quietest CW rig ever >> > made or is there something wrong with my receiver? It just seems too quiet. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Bill W2BLC K-Line >> > >> > ___ >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k...@arcomcontrollers.com > > -- > President and CTO - Arcom Communications > Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and > we offer complete repeater packages! > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > http://www.irlp.net > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] P3 cursor tunes off screen
I have the FixMode menu function in my P3 set to Full. Yet, when in fixed tune mode, the cursor tunes off screen and the center frequency does not update. Is there another setting that affects this function? Tim K9WX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 cursor tunes off screen
Tim, That is what Fixed Mode is all about - the center frequency stays put and the cursor follows the VFO. If you have the SPAN set to a value more narrow than your QSY excursion, the cursor will go off-screen. If you instead go to tracking mode, the cursor stays fixed in the center and the "background area" moves and the frequency at the center will track your VFO frequency. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/19/2016 4:53 PM, Tim Gennett wrote: I have the FixMode menu function in my P3 set to Full. Yet, when in fixed tune mode, the cursor tunes off screen and the center frequency does not update. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 cursor tunes off screen
I'm not quite certain what Tim means by "tunes off-screen," but taken literally, it's not how mine works. My parameters on 80 CW currently are: FIXED-TUNE on FIXED MODE AUTO ADJUST=Full Span SPAN=20 KHz When I tune VFO A up in frequency, its cursor moves to the right and when it gets to the right edge, the display moves up 20 KHz and the cursor appears at the left edge. When I tune VFO B up, its cursor moves to the right and when it gets to the right edge, it disappears and the triangle appears pointing to the right. I think Tim is saying that he tunes VFO A up, the cursor goes off-screen on the right, and the display span does not update. Is there any chance your Auto-Adjust has gotten set to static? In static, mine behaves as I think you describe. 73, Fred K6DGW - Sparks NV DM09dn - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2017 - www.cqp.org On 11/19/2016 2:02 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Tim, That is what Fixed Mode is all about - the center frequency stays put and the cursor follows the VFO. If you have the SPAN set to a value more narrow than your QSY excursion, the cursor will go off-screen. If you instead go to tracking mode, the cursor stays fixed in the center and the "background area" moves and the frequency at the center will track your VFO frequency. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/19/2016 4:53 PM, Tim Gennett wrote: I have the FixMode menu function in my P3 set to Full. Yet, when in fixed tune mode, the cursor tunes off screen and the center frequency does not update. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7859 / Virus Database: 4664/13437 - Release Date: 11/19/16 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Revisited: Glitch when using USB Keyboard on P3 to send CW via K3
Well, it seems I was a little fast in determining that setting the P3 "Transmit Timeout" to 1000, fixed the issue. It actually just masks the underlying problem, but doesn't really fix it. The problem is that the K3 is not staying in transmit long enough for CW characters to be sent. The correct character is being sent to the K3, but the K3 truncates the character by turning off transmit too soon. Setting this timer to 1000 (milliseconds) just gives the K3 a little extra time to stay in transmit, but created another problem for me. While running my P3 with this timer at 1000 and the K3 at MCU 5.60 and P3 at MCU 1.60, I encountered an issue. On occasion my P3 'text' macros would stop transmitting after 1 second. Weird thing was, this wouldn't happen all the time, but once it did start, it would continue until the rig was turned off. Sometimes simple things like a band change would trigger this to occur. I increased the timer to 20,000 (20 seconds) and that resolved this Macro issue, but created a different issue. I tried to let Elecraft troubleshoot this, but they could not recreate it, and they wanted me to send my P3 back to them. This had all worked fine, until I upgrade my K3 and P3 firmware a month ago. If you look in your PC, you can figure out what your previous version of F/W were. Simply deleting the newer hex files, allows you to re-flash your old versions. Just for grins, I flashed the P3 back to 1.29 first. This did NOT fix it. Rolling the K3 back to 5.14 fixed it. I looked through the F/W updates between 5.14 and 5.60, and nothing popped out dealing with this directly, but I suspect the code for the vox in the K3 was changed somewhere to fix something else, causing the issue with the P3. Bottom line is everything works fine now using these old F/W versions. Hallelujah! Keith K9GL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 cursor tunes off screen
Setting full span or half span works best for most. Fred nailed this one. 73, matt W6NIA On 11/19/2016 3:38 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I'm not quite certain what Tim means by "tunes off-screen," but taken literally, it's not how mine works. My parameters on 80 CW currently are: FIXED-TUNE on FIXED MODE AUTO ADJUST=Full Span SPAN=20 KHz When I tune VFO A up in frequency, its cursor moves to the right and when it gets to the right edge, the display moves up 20 KHz and the cursor appears at the left edge. When I tune VFO B up, its cursor moves to the right and when it gets to the right edge, it disappears and the triangle appears pointing to the right. I think Tim is saying that he tunes VFO A up, the cursor goes off-screen on the right, and the display span does not update. Is there any chance your Auto-Adjust has gotten set to static? In static, mine behaves as I think you describe. 73, Fred K6DGW - Sparks NV DM09dn - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2017 - www.cqp.org On 11/19/2016 2:02 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Tim, That is what Fixed Mode is all about - the center frequency stays put and the cursor follows the VFO. If you have the SPAN set to a value more narrow than your QSY excursion, the cursor will go off-screen. If you instead go to tracking mode, the cursor stays fixed in the center and the "background area" moves and the frequency at the center will track your VFO frequency. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/19/2016 4:53 PM, Tim Gennett wrote: I have the FixMode menu function in my P3 set to Full. Yet, when in fixed tune mode, the cursor tunes off screen and the center frequency does not update. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7859 / Virus Database: 4664/13437 - Release Date: 11/19/16 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mzil...@roadrunner.com -- Always store beer in a dark place. - R. Heinlein Matt Zilmer, W6NIA [Shiraz] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] A bug with my KX2
Not to worry though - not *that* kind of bug: http://ae5x.blogspot.com/2016/11/two-way-vintage-bug-qso.html John AE5X How To Fix Your Fatigue (Do This Every Day) gundrymd.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5830ef7ae211e6f7a2659st04vuc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 cursor tunes off screen
I am always amazed at how different we are as individuals. I have several CW friends who think half-span is better than canned beer. For me, I just get really confused by it. I'm an Iambic-A ham, others swear that B is the only way. Actually, I never got Iambicized and I now use a single lever key, but I couldn't send on a dual lever if it was on Iambic-B, unless extraneous dits were good. One of the things I really like about my K3 is that it has so many ways to configure things. I've gotten the TX EQ to the point where I get unsolicited "Great audio" comments in the rare times I step into the phone bands, and the RX EQ to where I can sort of understand SSB. One of the things I really dislike about my K3 is that it has so many ways to configure things, I run out of configuring time. ]:-) 73, Fred K6DGW - Sparks NV DM09dn - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2017 - www.cqp.org On 11/19/2016 4:29 PM, Matt Zilmer wrote: Setting full span or half span works best for most. Fred nailed this one. matt W6NIA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] A bug with my KX2
Very cool. I need to dig mine out one of these days. Tom, W1TEF On 11/19/2016 7:32 PM, a...@juno.com wrote: Not to worry though - not *that* kind of bug: http://ae5x.blogspot.com/2016/11/two-way-vintage-bug-qso.html John AE5X How To Fix Your Fatigue (Do This Every Day) gundrymd.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5830ef7ae211e6f7a2659st04vuc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w1...@swsports.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Revisited: Glitch when using USB Keyboard on P3 to
I've been having a timing issue of sorts that somewhat parallels Keith's observations. I've been working closely with Elecraft support as well as Wayne (directly) and we're still scratching our heads. My problem goes away when I revert back to FW V5.38 ... any FW V5.50 and newer lets my intermittent 'audio reduction/drop' problem show up. 73 - Nolan Kienitz ... KI5IO Message: 24 Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 18:26:54 -0600 From: "kbeck...@wi.rr.com" To: Subject: [Elecraft] Revisited: Glitch when using USB Keyboard on P3 to sendCW via K3 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well, it seems I was a little fast in determining that setting the P3 "Transmit Timeout" to 1000, fixed the issue. It actually just masks the underlying problem, but doesn't really fix it. The problem is that the K3 is not staying in transmit long enough for CW characters to be sent. The correct character is being sent to the K3, but the K3 truncates the character by turning off transmit too soon. Setting this timer to 1000 (milliseconds) just gives the K3 a little extra time to stay in transmit, but created another problem for me. While running my P3 with this timer at 1000 and the K3 at MCU 5.60 and P3 at MCU 1.60, I encountered an issue. On occasion my P3 'text' macros would stop transmitting after 1 second. Weird thing was, this wouldn't happen all the time, but once it did start, it would continue until the rig was turned off. Sometimes simple things like a band change would trigger this to occur. I increased the timer to 20,000 (20 seconds) and that resolved this Macro issue, but created a different issue. I tried to let Elecraft troubleshoot this, but they could not recreate it, and they wanted me to send my P3 back to them. This had all worked fine, until I upgrade my K3 and P3 firmware a month ago. If you look in your PC, you can figure out what your previous version of F/W were. Simply deleting the newer hex files, allows you to re-flash your old versions. Just for grins, I flashed the P3 back to 1.29 first. This did NOT fix it. Rolling the K3 back to 5.14 fixed it. I looked through the F/W updates between 5.14 and 5.60, and nothing popped out dealing with this directly, but I suspect the code for the vox in the K3 was changed somewhere to fix something else, causing the issue with the P3. Bottom line is everything works fine now using these old F/W versions. Hallelujah! Keith K9GL 73, Nolan Kienitz - KI5IO SKCC - 9532C NAQCC – 6230 FISTS – 14948 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Good Evening, The bands have been uncooperative as of late. SFU steady around 78 with few to no sunspots. My DX has been to such exotic locales as Michigan and Ohio. Fine folks the lot of them but not DX in the truest sense :) We are out of the latest solar stream so that steady hissing sound has weakened. Maybe the latest 'upsurge' in spots bodes well for the winter. I was hiking my forest, looking for dead trees to thin, when I saw the flick of an ear. I spotted the doe looking at me so I waited. And waited. Then I went back to looking at trees while ignoring her. She took the hint and got back to eating. For five minutes or so I walked cross wind of her assessing next year's pile of wood. She ate her way behind some trees and we lost track of each other. I have a lot of wood to cut. Please join us tomorrow on: 14050 kHz at 2300z Sunday (3 PM PST Sunday) 7045 kHz at 0200z Monday (6 PM PST Sunday) 73, Kevin. KD5ONS - __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Habits, WAS: RE: P3 cursor tunes off screen
Well put Fred. I was unable to find time for a QSO for almost a year and, when I had a chance to get on the air I found I could not use my paddles! Eventually I discovered that I had at some point changed the keyer to A mode instead of B mode. I learned to squeeze using my homebrew accu-keyer in the 1970's which used B mode. A great "plus" of the Ele-rigs is that I can set one up like I like it and then ignore 90% of the menu. It never needs to change, just as I don't need to change how I get dressed or brush my teeth. But, unlike rigs in the past, we can make those changes and have exactly what we want -- assuming we know what we want. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 4:57 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 cursor tunes off screen I am always amazed at how different we are as individuals. I have several CW friends who think half-span is better than canned beer. For me, I just get really confused by it. I'm an Iambic-A ham, others swear that B is the only way. Actually, I never got Iambicized and I now use a single lever key, but I couldn't send on a dual lever if it was on Iambic-B, unless extraneous dits were good. One of the things I really like about my K3 is that it has so many ways to configure things. I've gotten the TX EQ to the point where I get unsolicited "Great audio" comments in the rare times I step into the phone bands, and the RX EQ to where I can sort of understand SSB. One of the things I really dislike about my K3 is that it has so many ways to configure things, I run out of configuring time. ]:-) 73, Fred K6DGW - Sparks NV DM09dn __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: very quiet on CW
OK I had to check this out on "My" K3. Good band to do this - 20m 6:00pm local time: SSB-mode, F2 (2.8-KHz), DSP bw=2.8-KHz, PRE=OFF, ANT=triband yagi, S-meter = S5 Plenty of white noise CW-mode, F2, DSP bw=2.8-KHz, PRE=OFF, same ANT, same S-meter reading and same audio noise level CW-mode, F4 (400-Hz), DSP bw=0.40 KHz, PRE=OFF, same ANT, S-meter = S2 and lowered noise audio If I adjust DSP bw=2.8 KHz S-meter increases to S5 and noise audio equals that I hear with SSB-mode. AGC=ON for all measurements So much for "CW is quieter". No narrower bw is quieter regardless of mode. BTW F1 (13-KHz) is identical to F2 if DSP is set to 2.8-KHz (as you would expect since DSP sets the receive bw and not the filter). I have F1 enabled for SSB, AM, FM F2 SSB, AM, CW F3 no fllter F4 SSB, CW F5 no filter In any mode if I select F3 or F5 the K3 is VERY quiet, S-meter shows S0 (would you expect anything otherwise?) I actually select F3 when operating DATA-A USB because I take the 1st IF from the K3 to ext SDR and do not use the 2nd IF (K3 DSP). Visit my LINRAD webpage for more on that. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag Business e-mail: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
