Re: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

[Walter Underwood]

The last time this was discussed, there were many satisfied users of the 
Linemaster Treadlite II foot switch. Here is one with an un-connectored cord. 
As you check out the reviews on the variations of the Treadlite II, you’ll find 
the “yeah, had one on a drill press for twenty years” reviews.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B002P53WQM/

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 9:13 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Gee folks, we can build our own transmitters and amplifiers and experiment 
> with them on the air.
> 
> Why is it so hard to get an RCA plug, cut off the 1/4 inch phone plug and 
> solder on an RCA plug?
> Much easier than searching for an adapter.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 4/16/2019 9:05 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft wrote:
>> Hi guys! I searched around a bit nothing conclusive so thought I’d ask.
>> I am needing a foot switch for my K3s which is also connected to my 
>> KPA500/KAT500 setup.
>> I purchased a Heil FS-3 however it has a 1/4” phono plug on it and the K3s 
>> has an RCA jack (like a dummy I did not look at the back of the radio before 
>> I bought it).
>> So, recommend an adapter or I can take this one back to HRO and get 
>> something else?
>> Recommendations?
>> Thanks,
>> Michael
>> KK6RWK
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[Elecraft] Modularity

[Vic Rosenthal]

All this talk about onboard computers (or not) and operating systems in the K4 
has me thinking.
My K3 is serial no. 0007. I have had it since the beginning, and with a few 
simple upgrades, it is almost as capable as a new K3S. But the computers I had 
back then are long gone.
What I would like to have in the K4 is a backplane architecture. The entire 
radio except for a control head would be located on plugin boards that could be 
swapped out easily for testing, customizing, or upgrading. The ENTIRE radio. 
The K3 goes in this direction, but not far enough.
One of the options would be an onboard computer. You could use the rig without 
it or with an external computer if you wish. Maybe it would come with some 
version of Linux, but you could put another version of Linux or Windows on it 
if you wanted. You could upgrade it easily when it became obsolete.
Yes, this would cost more. But with the savings available from modern automated 
surface mount construction, maybe it’s possible.

Victor 4X6GP 
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Re: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

[Jack Brindle via Elecraft]

You know, I would be tempted to get a 1/4” female cord-mount jack and a cable 
with an RCA plug on it, shorten the end of the cable without the RCA plug (just 
to make a short adapter), slip on the connector housing, then solder the 
remaining cable to the 1/4” jack. That gives an adapter with some strain 
relief, thus reducing the lever-arm strain of a single-body adapter on the 
radio’s RCA jack, and would allow me not to have to modify the foot switch 
cable.

Michael, if you need help with that, let me know and we will see what we can do.

73!
Jack, W6FB

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 9:13 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Gee folks, we can build our own transmitters and amplifiers and experiment 
> with them on the air.
> 
> Why is it so hard to get an RCA plug, cut off the 1/4 inch phone plug and 
> solder on an RCA plug?
> Much easier than searching for an adapter.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 4/16/2019 9:05 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft wrote:
>> Hi guys! I searched around a bit nothing conclusive so thought I’d ask.
>> I am needing a foot switch for my K3s which is also connected to my 
>> KPA500/KAT500 setup.
>> I purchased a Heil FS-3 however it has a 1/4” phono plug on it and the K3s 
>> has an RCA jack (like a dummy I did not look at the back of the radio before 
>> I bought it).
>> So, recommend an adapter or I can take this one back to HRO and get 
>> something else?
>> Recommendations?
>> Thanks,
>> Michael
>> KK6RWK
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Re: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

[Bill Johnson]

Don,
No Kidding... Exactly.  I have the dual radio/amp switch and I managed.  :-)  
However, buying and adapter is often a great option when money is good and time 
isn't.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 11:14 PM
To: Michael Gillen ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

Gee folks, we can build our own transmitters and amplifiers and experiment with 
them on the air.

Why is it so hard to get an RCA plug, cut off the 1/4 inch phone plug and 
solder on an RCA plug?
Much easier than searching for an adapter.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/16/2019 9:05 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft wrote:
> Hi guys! I searched around a bit nothing conclusive so thought I’d ask.
> 
> I am needing a foot switch for my K3s which is also connected to my 
> KPA500/KAT500 setup.
> 
> I purchased a Heil FS-3 however it has a 1/4” phono plug on it and the K3s 
> has an RCA jack (like a dummy I did not look at the back of the radio before 
> I bought it).
> 
> So, recommend an adapter or I can take this one back to HRO and get something 
> else?
> 
> Recommendations?
> 
> Thanks,
> Michael
> KK6RWK
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 manual revisions

[Don Wilhelm]

Bert,

The troubleshooting section is about the same - no problem.

Do not rely on the board Rev level to be the same as the manual level. 
There is no Rev J K1 board.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/16/2019 9:03 PM, Bert wrote:

Hi Don, Petr and all,

I have a similar TX problem that I've been working on for a time. 
Reading your emails I realized

that I'm using a K1 manual Rev. J. 2015.

My K1 is from around 2000, Rev. D, and I'm now asking if the Rev. J of 
the manual is OK to use

as reference and for troubleshooting?


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Re: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

[Don Wilhelm]

Gee folks, we can build our own transmitters and amplifiers and 
experiment with them on the air.


Why is it so hard to get an RCA plug, cut off the 1/4 inch phone plug 
and solder on an RCA plug?

Much easier than searching for an adapter.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/16/2019 9:05 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft wrote:

Hi guys! I searched around a bit nothing conclusive so thought I’d ask.

I am needing a foot switch for my K3s which is also connected to my 
KPA500/KAT500 setup.

I purchased a Heil FS-3 however it has a 1/4” phono plug on it and the K3s has 
an RCA jack (like a dummy I did not look at the back of the radio before I 
bought it).

So, recommend an adapter or I can take this one back to HRO and get something 
else?

Recommendations?

Thanks,
Michael
KK6RWK

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Re: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

[Peter Dougherty]

In 2015 I bought one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/Linemaster-Clipper-Switch-Electrical-Momentary/dp/B00
2P55Y36/ref=sr_1_18
This is an Industrial grade, very high quality footswitch. You can wire it
NC or NO. Takes 5 minutes to set up. You'll never need another switch after
this. 

There were versions of these pedals installed in film projection booths I
worked in throughout my career, to do changeovers between machines; they
were installed in the 40s and 50s and were still going strong when I left
the industry. They are indestructible and worth every penny of their $30
price.

 - pjd

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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 9:25 PM
To: Michael Gillen ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

What we call a "foot switch" is a "sustain pedal" in guitar speak (the real
market).  The standard is a 1/4" plug.  Buy an adapter.



Ken K6MR




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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:05:09 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

Hi guys! I searched around a bit nothing conclusive so thought I'd ask.

I am needing a foot switch for my K3s which is also connected to my
KPA500/KAT500 setup.

I purchased a Heil FS-3 however it has a 1/4" phono plug on it and the K3s
has an RCA jack (like a dummy I did not look at the back of the radio before
I bought it).

So, recommend an adapter or I can take this one back to HRO and get
something else?

Recommendations?

Thanks,
Michael
KK6RWK

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[Elecraft] ERR KEY Message

[Bob Conder via Elecraft]

Been trying to configure SDR Uno with RSP2 as a spectrum scope. (Using IF 
output to RSP) But not much luck.Right now, when I turn on SDR Uno, with the K3 
already in CW mode, the SDR keys the rig for a moment, then stops.The "ERR KEY" 
message shows up on the screen.Can't get the message to clear, and can't send 
CW, so have to pwr down the rig, to get the error message to clearand to be 
able to operate the K3 agn.Anyone else with SDR Uno/RSP2 have this problem?Any 
suggestions appreciated.TIA,Bob K4RLC
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Re: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

[Scott]

Michael,
This adapter should work.  1/4" mono female to rca male adapter

https://www.amazon.com/CGTime-6-35mm-Adapter-Female-Converterr/dp/B07HD3Z5R1?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q=duckduckgo-d-20=xm2=2025=165953=B07HD3Z5R1

Sure it's a pack of 5 but if you look around I'm betting you can find it 
in solo or twin packs.


Or if you really want a Heil foot switch then the FS-2 looks like it 
would work.  Or as some one else mentioned, bust out the soldering iron.


73,
Scott
AD5HS

On 4/16/2019 8:05 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft wrote:

Hi guys! I searched around a bit nothing conclusive so thought I’d ask.

I am needing a foot switch for my K3s which is also connected to my 
KPA500/KAT500 setup.

I purchased a Heil FS-3 however it has a 1/4” phono plug on it and the K3s has 
an RCA jack (like a dummy I did not look at the back of the radio before I 
bought it).

So, recommend an adapter or I can take this one back to HRO and get something 
else?

Recommendations?

Thanks,
Michael
KK6RWK

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Re: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

[Michael Gillen via Elecraft]

Thanks to all that chimed in I have enough options now.

I am already using the Radiosport headphones and very happy with them so I’m 
going to order one of their foot switches.

73s all,
Michael
KK6RWK


> On Apr 16, 2019, at 6:05 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys! I searched around a bit nothing conclusive so thought I’d ask.
> 
> I am needing a foot switch for my K3s which is also connected to my 
> KPA500/KAT500 setup.
> 
> I purchased a Heil FS-3 however it has a 1/4” phono plug on it and the K3s 
> has an RCA jack (like a dummy I did not look at the back of the radio before 
> I bought it).
> 
> So, recommend an adapter or I can take this one back to HRO and get something 
> else?
> 
> Recommendations?
> 
> Thanks,
> Michael
> KK6RWK
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

[Josh Fiden]

Yes, exactly.

My Boss FS-5U has performed flawlessly for 15+ years including a few 
Field Day trips to the mud. Very durable. The sides are keyed so you can 
lock multiple together.


https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/FS5U--boss-fs-5u-non-latching-footswitch

73,
Josh W6XU

On 4/16/2019 6:24 PM, Ken K6MR wrote:

What we call a “foot switch” is a “sustain pedal” in guitar speak (the real 
market).  The standard is a 1/4” plug.  Buy an adapter.



Ken K6MR


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Re: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

[Josh Fiden]

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/CPR105--hosa-cpr105-5-foot
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/CPR110--hosa-cpr110-10-foot

Sweetwater is a good vendor with free shipping. Hosa is a reputable brand.

73,
Josh W6XU

On 4/16/2019 6:05 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft wrote:

Hi guys! I searched around a bit nothing conclusive so thought I’d ask.

I am needing a foot switch for my K3s which is also connected to my 
KPA500/KAT500 setup.

I purchased a Heil FS-3 however it has a 1/4” phono plug on it and the K3s has 
an RCA jack (like a dummy I did not look at the back of the radio before I 
bought it).

So, recommend an adapter or I can take this one back to HRO and get something 
else?

Recommendations?

Thanks,
Michael
KK6RWK

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Re: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

[Michael Walker]

Hi Ken

Foot switches or hand switches are pretty simple devices.

All they do is 'ground' the center conductor of the PTT line.  When you
ground it, the radio goes into TX.

If the Heil unit you purchased has the wrong connector on it, you can just
purchase an adapter from a company like Mono Price (
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=7242 $0.79) or cut off the connector
it came with and solder on the RCA connector you need.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 9:25 PM Ken K6MR  wrote:

> What we call a “foot switch” is a “sustain pedal” in guitar speak (the
> real market).  The standard is a 1/4” plug.  Buy an adapter.
>
>
>
> Ken K6MR
>
>
>
> 
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> on behalf of Michael Gillen via Elecraft 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:05:09 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch
>
> Hi guys! I searched around a bit nothing conclusive so thought I’d ask.
>
> I am needing a foot switch for my K3s which is also connected to my
> KPA500/KAT500 setup.
>
> I purchased a Heil FS-3 however it has a 1/4” phono plug on it and the K3s
> has an RCA jack (like a dummy I did not look at the back of the radio
> before I bought it).
>
> So, recommend an adapter or I can take this one back to HRO and get
> something else?
>
> Recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
> KK6RWK
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

[Ken K6MR]

What we call a “foot switch” is a “sustain pedal” in guitar speak (the real 
market).  The standard is a 1/4” plug.  Buy an adapter.



Ken K6MR




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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 6:05:09 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

Hi guys! I searched around a bit nothing conclusive so thought I’d ask.

I am needing a foot switch for my K3s which is also connected to my 
KPA500/KAT500 setup.

I purchased a Heil FS-3 however it has a 1/4” phono plug on it and the K3s has 
an RCA jack (like a dummy I did not look at the back of the radio before I 
bought it).

So, recommend an adapter or I can take this one back to HRO and get something 
else?

Recommendations?

Thanks,
Michael
KK6RWK

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's philosophy of community input on product design

[Dave Cole (NK7Z)]

Hence why I used the word "forthcoming", to indicate relatively soon...

73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL OOC for Oregon

On 4/16/19 5:39 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Dave,

The answer (as always) is Yes, Elecraft is always working on something new.

The real question is "when", and that will be unknown until it is 
announced.


Whether it will be called "K4" or something else remains to be seen at 
announcement time.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/16/2019 7:20 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:

Hi Wayne,

OK, I'll be the one to ask...  Is this Elecraft's way of saying a K4 
is forthcoming?  ;)



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[Elecraft] Recommend a K3s foot switch

[Michael Gillen via Elecraft]

Hi guys! I searched around a bit nothing conclusive so thought I’d ask.

I am needing a foot switch for my K3s which is also connected to my 
KPA500/KAT500 setup.

I purchased a Heil FS-3 however it has a 1/4” phono plug on it and the K3s has 
an RCA jack (like a dummy I did not look at the back of the radio before I 
bought it).

So, recommend an adapter or I can take this one back to HRO and get something 
else?

Recommendations?

Thanks,
Michael
KK6RWK

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[Elecraft] K1 manual revisions

[Bert]

Hi Don, Petr and all,

I have a similar TX problem that I've been working on for a time. 
Reading your emails I realized

that I'm using a K1 manual Rev. J. 2015.

My K1 is from around 2000, Rev. D, and I'm now asking if the Rev. J of 
the manual is OK to use

as reference and for troubleshooting?

I have been searching for K1 Rev. D manual but can't find it.

Thanks!

Bert VE3NR



On 4/16/2019 10:55 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Petr.

Turn that manual to Appendix E near the back.  And on page 6 of that 
Appendix, you will find Transmitter Signal Tracing.

Set up the K1 as instructed there, and no damage will be done.

Then make the measurements in the order listed.  You will need an RF 
probe.  If you are using an oscilloscope (with a 10X probe), multiply 
the expected values by 2.8 to obtain the expected peak to peak RF 
voltage measurements.


At the FIRST measurement that is significantly less than the expected 
value (expect as much as a 10% variation before saying it is 
significant) you have reached the output of the failing stage.

Correct that stage and move onward to the next failure point.

That is the procedure required to determine why it is not working.

If the final is blown, replace it with the K1PAKIT from Elecraft.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 4/16/2019 9:17 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS wrote:

Don,

I checked other parts in TX section and it seems to be ok (refer to 
manual

2000 Rev. D). Just removed the 5th turn on secondary winding of T3.

Is there something else strange or danger which I should check in 
order to

avoid smoke during the test or even blowing the final please?

Many thanks mate,

Petr




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[Elecraft] FT8 distorted audio, won't decode

[Peter Dougherty]

Hi all,
Whenever I bring up WSJT-X and the radio goes into DATA mode (Data A), the
audio through the speaker is extremely distorted and there is no decode at
all. Soundcard RX Levels are about 30 dB. If I switch the radio into USB I
can decode just fine, but not using the DATA mode. I haven't changed
anything in the radio or software since the last time I used FT8, about a
month ago. I've hardly even had the radio powered up for more than a couple
of hours in the last month. Any idea what could have gone wrong, or where I
can go to fix it? I'm sincerely hoping this is a software problem and that I
didn't somehow harm the receiver.

I'm not using the Noise Blanker or Noise Reduction, AGC is set to either
Fast or Slow, I'm on the main antenna, signals are very strong, and I've
tried with and without the attenuator. Nothing shows up on WSJT's traces in
Data mode.


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73 and Good DX
Peter, W2IRT



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's philosophy of community input on product design

[Don Wilhelm]

Dave,

The answer (as always) is Yes, Elecraft is always working on something new.

The real question is "when", and that will be unknown until it is announced.

Whether it will be called "K4" or something else remains to be seen at 
announcement time.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/16/2019 7:20 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:

Hi Wayne,

OK, I'll be the one to ask...  Is this Elecraft's way of saying a K4 is 
forthcoming?  ;)



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's philosophy of community input on product design

[Alan Corbeth]

That’s a great question Dave, and as you know, I will be among the first to 
order it!

Alan K7FH

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z)  wrote:
> 
> Hi Wayne,
> 
> OK, I'll be the one to ask...  Is this Elecraft's way of saying a K4 is 
> forthcoming?  ;)
> 
> 73s and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL OOC for Oregon
> 
> On 4/16/19 8:56 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> It has often been stated, by both Elecraft and our customers, that we 
>> leverage user input as we flesh out new products. In this article I'll 
>> clarify our development model, hopefully elevating it above hearsay. It's 
>> intentional and methodical. We like to think it's one of the things that 
>> makes Elecraft unique among well-known amateur radio brands...
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's philosophy of community input on product design

[Dave Cole (NK7Z)]

Hi Wayne,

OK, I'll be the one to ask...  Is this Elecraft's way of saying a K4 is 
forthcoming?  ;)


73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL OOC for Oregon

On 4/16/19 8:56 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

It has often been stated, by both Elecraft and our customers, that we leverage 
user input as we flesh out new products. In this article I'll clarify our 
development model, hopefully elevating it above hearsay. It's intentional and 
methodical. We like to think it's one of the things that makes Elecraft unique 
among well-known amateur radio brands...

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA 1500 CE Approval

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Hi Doug,

Yes, we completed CE official lab testing a while back and the shipping amps now 
have the CE label on them.


73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 4/15/2019 7:08 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:

Dear OMs and YLs,
   I looked up the KPA 1500 the other day on my phone and though I saw it
was CE approved.   Since then, I can not find this CE statement.Does the
KPA 1500 finally have CE approval so that it can now be purchased into the
EU? I have been waiting for this news for some time as I plan to buy.

  73 Doug EI2CN

PS For those outside the EU, CE approval is somewhat akin to UL approval.
A product can not be sold in the EU without this safety approval.

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[Elecraft] Elecraft's philosophy of community input on

[Gary Peterson]

Bravo!  Standing and applauding.

Gary, KØCX
A relatively new K3s/P3 owner and very satisfied customer.

“It has often been stated, by both Elecraft and our customers, that we leverage 
user input as we flesh out new products. In this article I'll clarify our 
development model, hopefully elevating it above hearsay. It's intentional and 
methodical. We like to think it's one of the things that makes Elecraft unique 
among well-known amateur radio brands.”
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[Elecraft] OT: WIN10

[Dick Dickinson]

There was a time when I would have agreed with you.  In this day and age,
Win 10 is complicated beyond this user's capability to follow a set of
mutually exclusive text menus and settings with more on/off switches than a
bunch of Altair 8800's stacked to the ceiling and cascaded additionally.
Who outside of specialists can understand the implications of so many
settings?  

There was also a time when Googling a resolution of a Windows matter was
fairly easily had.  Anymore one can spend hours reading what doesn't apply
to find what does apply.

The overhead of maintaining my system has grown quite a bit.

PC ---> Personal Computer..?  No longer.  It may be 'personal' in that one
owns the hardware...arguably the software.  The resources required to keep
up with it get a bit beyond 'personal.'  

73,
Dick - KA5KKT

PS  What wonders await us in May..?

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"Regarding computer-related problems, having provided on-line and telephone
tech support for Gateway, the majority of troubles with which I helped were
user-induced.  I liken the issue to when I had responsibility for a small
phone system--lack of knowledge on using that "tool."  I assert we need to
have sufficient knowledge to operate and maintain our computers, just like
our radios.  Sometimes we need to seek help from others, often found on this
list.

- K8TE"

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 - Fixed Tune Mode

[Alan]

On 4/15/19 6:37 PM, Ed gilliland wrote:
I am unable to put the P3 in "Fixed Tune Mode", the display remains 
constant and the VFO A cursor moves across the display.


I think that's the way it's supposed to work in fixed-tune mode. The 
display stays at the same frequency and the VFO moves across the display 
as it is tuned.


By contrast, in tracking mode the VFO always stays at the center of the 
screen and the frequency of the display changes to track the VFO as it 
is tuned.


Alan N1AL


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[Elecraft] KPA1500 F/W ver 2.17 now available

[Roy Koeppe]

K4WJ alerted me that you can access ver 2.17 on your Utility. Went right in!

73,   Roy K6XK

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and WIN10

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I commented earlier regarding Windows 10.   If you have ever had a 
program crash or the computer lock up, then you most likely will have 
command line fragments on your computer.  Some of these may not cause 
issues but some may.    To be safe, use a software application to clean 
and clear the Cache and clean the Registry. There are several good ones 
that are FREE.   {The best kind for hams}


Our IT staff would often write a fault found as a "PICNIC". Problem In 
Chair Not In Computer.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 4/16/2019 11:55 AM, K8TE wrote:

It's already possible to use a K3 without a computer.  I've done that in the
middle of a contest when I had to re-boot my computer.  I logged on paper
until I had access to the log when I added those contacts.

Regarding computer-related problems, having provided on-line and telephone
tech support for Gateway, the majority of troubles with which I helped were
user-induced.  I liken the issue to when I had responsibility for a small
phone system--lack of knowledge on using that "tool."  I assert we need to
have sufficient knowledge to operate and maintain our computers, just like
our radios.  Sometimes we need to seek help from others, often found on this
list.

I also assert too many ops aren't conversant with their equipment and much
less with their equipment manuals.  Of course, we all do dumb things and I
am near the top of that list.  Still, I update my PDF manuals and make use
of them.  For Windows, Google is your friend.  It is more useful than trying
to find help on Microsoft's web site, in my experience.

I use electronic loggers for many reasons.  Except for the fine products at
QRPWorks, I use a computer and the appropriate logger.  I am a keyboard wiz
and can type much faster than I can print.  BTW, I have often used the K3
Utility with a USB hub.  But, not all USB hubs are created equal and I
always bypass a hub when troubleshooting connectivity issues.

I would rather have the K4 firmware space used for features rather than
replacing functions best done on a computer or other external device.  It is
2019 and computers belong in our shacks, IMHO.  On SOTA peaks, that may be a
different story.  Still, I prefer a non-radio solution for logging, like a
notebook computer, than having a logger in my radio.  Save that battery for
operating!  Just my humble (or not) opinion.

BTW, I enjoyed several conversations with Elecraft personnel at the IDXC
this weekend and with Bill, AE6JV.  I also noticed WA6HHQ on APRS.  It was
an excellent convention once again and I hope the plans to move it to the
Wyndham next year revert back to the Visalia Convention Center with its
larger facilities.

73, Bill, K8TE

So, speaking of the K4 . . .

When Eric asked a few weeks ago what we might like to have if there were to
be a next generation transceiver, near the top of my list was adding
whatever it would take to make it unnecessary to connect the transceiver to
an outboard computer -- so far as reasonably possible -- ever, for anything.
Eric eventually closed that thread and I don't mean to reopen the wider
question.  But would something along those lines ease the kinds of problems
we've been reading about here lately?

Ted, KN1CBR




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and WIN10

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Nor any other operating system of any type, past, present or future.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 4/16/2019 1:40 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

We will never, ever put any incarnation of Windows in a radio.

Wayne
N6KR


elecraft.com 

On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX > wrote:


PLEASE!  No operating system embedded in the radio.  Almost like ice 
cream, there is more than one flavor.


As to Windows 10 updates, configure for automatic, let it do its 
thing, and don't mess with the parameters.  It is so easy and 
reliable.  Don't make it complicated by trying to run it yourself.


You also need to maintain a "clean" computer with regular Cache and 
Registry cleaning.  Leftover and fragments may over ride new updates. 
 Also Virus and Malware issues may interfere with correct operation.


Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 16, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Robert Rennard via Elecraft 
mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> wrote:


I believe that putting WIN10 hardware in the radio will be a benefit 
to the OEM.  It will make the radio become obsolete faster and allow 
more sales for upgrades.


Maestro, SunSDR, and Anan MK II radios all have Win10 PCs embedded. 
 Those radios’ embedded PCs are all obsolete already.
Consider how much pain it is to deal with Windows 10 updates.  I am 
sure the radio OEMs are paranoid, or at least I would be were I one 
of them.  When you have a widely deployed product that suddenly 
stops working because of an update, the pain is intense and 
expensive to cure.


How about an Intel NUC instead of a PC ?   They were used on Heard 
and Ducie rather than using laptops.   Even NUCs do not support IPA 
4K monitors, yet.


Bob R

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 - Fixed Tune Mode

[Rick Tavan]

My guess would be that you don't have it connected to the K3 serial port
correctly. If it isn't getting frequency information, it has to stay in
scrolling mode.

73,

/Rick N6XI
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On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 6:37 PM Ed gilliland  wrote:

> I am unable to put the P3 in "Fixed Tune Mode", the display remains
> constant and the VFO A cursor moves across the display.
>
> I'm sure that I have something configured incorrectly but haven't been
> able to discover the error.  I have a RS232 cable from the P3 PC port
> and a RS232 port on the PC and a cable from the P3 XCVR port to the RJ45
> connector on the K3s.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Ed W5TM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and WIN10

[Ken G Kopp]

Whew!

Good news!

As I set here waiting for a computer tech to arrive and fix my Windows 10
shack computer

73

K0PP

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 13:28 Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> We will never, ever put any incarnation of Windows in a radio.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> 
> elecraft.com
>
> > On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX 
> wrote:
> >
> > PLEASE!  No operating system embedded in the radio.  Almost like ice
> cream, there is more than one flavor.
> >
> > As to Windows 10 updates, configure for automatic, let it do its thing,
> and don't mess with the parameters.  It is so easy and reliable.  Don't
> make it complicated by trying to run it yourself.
> >
> > You also need to maintain a "clean" computer with regular Cache and
> Registry cleaning.  Leftover and fragments may over ride new updates.  Also
> Virus and Malware issues may interfere with correct operation.
> >
> > Bob, K4TAX
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Apr 16, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Robert Rennard via Elecraft <
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I believe that putting WIN10 hardware in the radio will be a benefit to
> the OEM.  It will make the radio become obsolete faster and allow more
> sales for upgrades.
> >>
> >> Maestro, SunSDR, and Anan MK II radios all have Win10 PCs embedded.
> Those radios’ embedded PCs are all obsolete already.
> >> Consider how much pain it is to deal with Windows 10 updates.  I am
> sure the radio OEMs are paranoid, or at least I would be were I one of
> them.  When you have a widely deployed product that suddenly stops working
> because of an update, the pain is intense and expensive to cure.
> >>
> >> How about an Intel NUC instead of a PC ?   They were used on Heard and
> Ducie rather than using laptops.   Even NUCs do not support IPA 4K
> monitors, yet.
> >>
> >> Bob R
> >>
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[Elecraft] Elecraft's philosophy of community input on, product design

[Richards]

Yes, you HAVE succeeded using a difficult and unique business model that 
accommodates and fulfills the experimental and developmental aspects of 
ham radio.  Think about it ... to buy an Elecraft radio, especially in 
the very early days, is to buy an essentially unfinished 
work-in-progress undergoing constant development,  against the promise 
that bugs, foibles and peccadilloes will be cured with future firmware, 
and occasionally hardware, updates.   This realizes a major legal 
purpose of ham radio:  the advancement of radio science.   Elecraft 
owners are more than mere consumers;  they are an integral part of the 
process.   While this is not my style,  it appeals to a large number of 
operators willing to experiment and participate in product development, 
serving as so many ersatz field test sites. Had performance lagged, or 
had Elecraft failed to deliver promised features and improved 
performance, the company would have been relegated to ham radio history 
long ago. Personal accountability and accessibility while looking  the 
customer directly in the eye is a significant factor in its success. 
Selling both a process and a product is a bold, risky course.  
Fortunately, Elecraft has delivered the goods well enough, and often 
enough, to earn its place in the race.


That is just MY take, of course ... your mileage may vary. K8JHR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and WIN10

[Dauer, Edward]

OK, I move to strike my own prior motion.

 Ted, KN1CBR

Edward A. Dauer
Dean Emeritus and Professor Emeritus of Law
University of Denver


From: Wayne Burdick 
Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 12:40 PM

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and WIN10

We will never, ever put any incarnation of Windows in a radio.

Wayne
N6KR

elecraft.com

On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX 
mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net>> wrote:
PLEASE!  No operating system embedded in the radio.  Almost like ice cream, 
there is more than one flavor.

As to Windows 10 updates, configure for automatic, let it do its thing, and 
don't mess with the parameters.  It is so easy and reliable.  Don't make it 
complicated by trying to run it yourself.

You also need to maintain a "clean" computer with regular Cache and Registry 
cleaning.  Leftover and fragments may over ride new updates.  Also Virus and 
Malware issues may interfere with correct operation.

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone



On Apr 16, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Robert Rennard via Elecraft 
mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> wrote:

I believe that putting WIN10 hardware in the radio will be a benefit to the 
OEM.  It will make the radio become obsolete faster and allow more sales for 
upgrades.

Maestro, SunSDR, and Anan MK II radios all have Win10 PCs embedded.  Those 
radios’ embedded PCs are all obsolete already.
Consider how much pain it is to deal with Windows 10 updates.  I am sure the 
radio OEMs are paranoid, or at least I would be were I one of them.  When you 
have a widely deployed product that suddenly stops working because of an 
update, the pain is intense and expensive to cure.

How about an Intel NUC instead of a PC ?   They were used on Heard and Ducie 
rather than using laptops.   Even NUCs do not support IPA 4K monitors, yet.

Bob R


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and WIN10

[Wayne Burdick]

We will never, ever put any incarnation of Windows in a radio. 

Wayne
N6KR


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> On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
> 
> PLEASE!  No operating system embedded in the radio.  Almost like ice cream, 
> there is more than one flavor. 
> 
> As to Windows 10 updates, configure for automatic, let it do its thing, and 
> don't mess with the parameters.  It is so easy and reliable.  Don't make it 
> complicated by trying to run it yourself. 
> 
> You also need to maintain a "clean" computer with regular Cache and Registry 
> cleaning.  Leftover and fragments may over ride new updates.  Also Virus and 
> Malware issues may interfere with correct operation.  
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Robert Rennard via Elecraft 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I believe that putting WIN10 hardware in the radio will be a benefit to the 
>> OEM.  It will make the radio become obsolete faster and allow more sales for 
>> upgrades.
>> 
>> Maestro, SunSDR, and Anan MK II radios all have Win10 PCs embedded.  Those 
>> radios’ embedded PCs are all obsolete already.  
>> Consider how much pain it is to deal with Windows 10 updates.  I am sure the 
>> radio OEMs are paranoid, or at least I would be were I one of them.  When 
>> you have a widely deployed product that suddenly stops working because of an 
>> update, the pain is intense and expensive to cure.   
>> 
>> How about an Intel NUC instead of a PC ?   They were used on Heard and Ducie 
>> rather than using laptops.   Even NUCs do not support IPA 4K monitors, yet.
>> 
>> Bob R 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and WIN10

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

PLEASE!  No operating system embedded in the radio.  Almost like ice cream, 
there is more than one flavor. 

As to Windows 10 updates, configure for automatic, let it do its thing, and 
don't mess with the parameters.  It is so easy and reliable.  Don't make it 
complicated by trying to run it yourself. 

You also need to maintain a "clean" computer with regular Cache and Registry 
cleaning.  Leftover and fragments may over ride new updates.  Also Virus and 
Malware issues may interfere with correct operation.  

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Apr 16, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Robert Rennard via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> I believe that putting WIN10 hardware in the radio will be a benefit to the 
> OEM.  It will make the radio become obsolete faster and allow more sales for 
> upgrades.
> 
> Maestro, SunSDR, and Anan MK II radios all have Win10 PCs embedded.  Those 
> radios’ embedded PCs are all obsolete already.  
> Consider how much pain it is to deal with Windows 10 updates.  I am sure the 
> radio OEMs are paranoid, or at least I would be were I one of them.  When you 
> have a widely deployed product that suddenly stops working because of an 
> update, the pain is intense and expensive to cure.   
> 
> How about an Intel NUC instead of a PC ?   They were used on Heard and Ducie 
> rather than using laptops.   Even NUCs do not support IPA 4K monitors, yet.
> 
> Bob R 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and WIN10

[K8TE]

It's already possible to use a K3 without a computer.  I've done that in the
middle of a contest when I had to re-boot my computer.  I logged on paper
until I had access to the log when I added those contacts.

Regarding computer-related problems, having provided on-line and telephone
tech support for Gateway, the majority of troubles with which I helped were
user-induced.  I liken the issue to when I had responsibility for a small
phone system--lack of knowledge on using that "tool."  I assert we need to
have sufficient knowledge to operate and maintain our computers, just like
our radios.  Sometimes we need to seek help from others, often found on this
list.

I also assert too many ops aren't conversant with their equipment and much
less with their equipment manuals.  Of course, we all do dumb things and I
am near the top of that list.  Still, I update my PDF manuals and make use
of them.  For Windows, Google is your friend.  It is more useful than trying
to find help on Microsoft's web site, in my experience.

I use electronic loggers for many reasons.  Except for the fine products at
QRPWorks, I use a computer and the appropriate logger.  I am a keyboard wiz
and can type much faster than I can print.  BTW, I have often used the K3
Utility with a USB hub.  But, not all USB hubs are created equal and I
always bypass a hub when troubleshooting connectivity issues.

I would rather have the K4 firmware space used for features rather than
replacing functions best done on a computer or other external device.  It is
2019 and computers belong in our shacks, IMHO.  On SOTA peaks, that may be a
different story.  Still, I prefer a non-radio solution for logging, like a
notebook computer, than having a logger in my radio.  Save that battery for
operating!  Just my humble (or not) opinion.

BTW, I enjoyed several conversations with Elecraft personnel at the IDXC
this weekend and with Bill, AE6JV.  I also noticed WA6HHQ on APRS.  It was
an excellent convention once again and I hope the plans to move it to the
Wyndham next year revert back to the Visalia Convention Center with its
larger facilities.

73, Bill, K8TE

So, speaking of the K4 . . . 

When Eric asked a few weeks ago what we might like to have if there were to
be a next generation transceiver, near the top of my list was adding
whatever it would take to make it unnecessary to connect the transceiver to
an outboard computer -- so far as reasonably possible -- ever, for anything. 
Eric eventually closed that thread and I don't mean to reopen the wider
question.  But would something along those lines ease the kinds of problems
we've been reading about here lately?

Ted, KN1CBR



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's philosophy of community input on product design

[Gary Smith]

Well worded & Thank you for the 
perspective.

73,

Gary
KA1J

> It has often been stated, by both Elecraft and our customers, that we
> leverage user input as we flesh out new products. In this article I'll
> clarify our development model, hopefully elevating it above hearsay.
> It's intentional and methodical. We like to think it's one of the
> things that makes Elecraft unique among well-known amateur radio
> brands.
> 
> * * *
> 
> The design of commercial gear is subject to many constraints. It has
> to meet user expectations, earn type acceptance, do well in
> performance benchmarks, and yet be fairly priced. To varying degrees
> it must also satisfy a universal requirement for communications gear:
> it should be usable during emergencies to support local or regional
> traffic. (For some of us, knowing we might be called upon as the last
> resort in difficult times motivates us to keep our equipment and
> skills fresh.)
> 
> Most use of our gear is by hobbyists, so an additional set of
> requirements comes into play. For example, a radio has to be enjoyable
> to operate. If it's a kit, it must be rewarding and educational to
> build.
> 
> We take this two steps further. 
> 
> First, we believe that our customers -- the real experts when it comes
> to using ham gear -- are a rich source of creative and technical
> input. Second, we recognize that since this is a hobby, the road is
> just as important as the destination. In other words, we want to share
> the *process* of product design with our customers, not just plant a
> stake in the ground and say "this is what we've done; take it or leave
> it."
> 
> To this end, at the onset of a new product cycle we imagine the
> hardware and firmware as an elastic canvas upon which we and our
> customers can sketch and refine ideas. This means products must be
> endowed with a great degree of modularity; we have to leave spaces
> that can be filled in the future, firing the imagination of users.
> Here's a musical analogy: If you've ever listened to jazz trumpeter
> Miles Davis play, you'll notice some gaps between his phrases. These
> allow listeners to engage with his music, completing their part of the
> conversation. The result? You work a bit harder at it, but come away
> more satisfied. (Don't get me started on the Key of Morse.)
> 
> What this means in practice is that we take continuous customer input,
> weight it, adjust firmware implementation priority, and revise or
> extend hardware over time. Let me give you two examples of how this
> has played out.
> 
> K2
> 
> The K2 was the test case for our "canvas" development model. To ensure
> flexibility, we designed intermodule communications around a 1-wire
> bus -- the auxBus -- which we routed to every option connector in the
> radio. These connectors were strategically distributed to nodes where
> they could pick up supply voltages, control, and RF or audio paths.
> The idea was that each module would have its own small MCU, hanging on
> the auxBus, where it could exchange information with the main MCU.
> 
> We then started shipping the K2 to early adopters, soliciting their
> input on what they'd like to see next. I can't claim that this process
> was entirely democratic, and in truth it was messy at times. But the
> upshot was that we quickly followed with new K2 options and firmware
> features in an order that gave users a vote. When 60 meters came on
> the scene, we added a module for that as well.
> 
> Here's where the auxBus comes in: On power-up, each option module
> checks in with the main MCU, reporting its status. But the MCU needn't
> know every detail of how modules function. For example, when you go
> into the menu entry for the K2's ATU (KAT2), the text for the various
> settings is supplied by the KAT2's own MCU, over the auxBus. If you
> update the ATU module to one that has different settings, the main MCU
> doesn't have to be updated -- just the KAT2 itself. The main MCU thus
> functions as a "server" for semantic information supplied by each of
> the option modules.
> 
> The K2 is also an exemplar of hardware flexibility, embodied in
> something we called the 2D fastener. This is a short length of 1/4"
> aluminum bar with three tapped 4-40 holes that permits attachment of
> PC boards, sheet metal, and hardware. Over the years we and our
> customers have taken advantage of 2D fasteners to upgrade or enhance
> products. Our seafaring customers helped us migrate to all
> stainless-steel hardware at some point, facilitated by 2D fasteners as
> generic attachment points.
> 
> Shortly after we thought we'd fully populated the K2 with options, we
> were contacted by Lyle Johnson, KK7P. Lyle had reverse-engineered the
> auxBus node associated with our KAF2 analog audio filter module, where
> he inserted his own: the KDSP2, a DSP-based audio filter complete with
> noise reduction. This is an extreme case of tapping community
> creativity. In addition to adding the KDSP2 to our product 

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and WIN10

[Robert Rennard via Elecraft]

I believe that putting WIN10 hardware in the radio will be a benefit to the 
OEM.  It will make the radio become obsolete faster and allow more sales for 
upgrades.

Maestro, SunSDR, and Anan MK II radios all have Win10 PCs embedded.  Those 
radios’ embedded PCs are all obsolete already.  
Consider how much pain it is to deal with Windows 10 updates.  I am sure the 
radio OEMs are paranoid, or at least I would be were I one of them.  When you 
have a widely deployed product that suddenly stops working because of an 
update, the pain is intense and expensive to cure.   

How about an Intel NUC instead of a PC ?   They were used on Heard and Ducie 
rather than using laptops.   Even NUCs do not support IPA 4K monitors, yet.

Bob R 

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[Elecraft] Elecraft's philosophy of community input on product design

[Wayne Burdick]

It has often been stated, by both Elecraft and our customers, that we leverage 
user input as we flesh out new products. In this article I'll clarify our 
development model, hopefully elevating it above hearsay. It's intentional and 
methodical. We like to think it's one of the things that makes Elecraft unique 
among well-known amateur radio brands.

* * *

The design of commercial gear is subject to many constraints. It has to meet 
user expectations, earn type acceptance, do well in performance benchmarks, and 
yet be fairly priced. To varying degrees it must also satisfy a universal 
requirement for communications gear: it should be usable during emergencies to 
support local or regional traffic. (For some of us, knowing we might be called 
upon as the last resort in difficult times motivates us to keep our equipment 
and skills fresh.)

Most use of our gear is by hobbyists, so an additional set of requirements 
comes into play. For example, a radio has to be enjoyable to operate. If it's a 
kit, it must be rewarding and educational to build.

We take this two steps further. 

First, we believe that our customers -- the real experts when it comes to using 
ham gear -- are a rich source of creative and technical input. Second, we 
recognize that since this is a hobby, the road is just as important as the 
destination. In other words, we want to share the *process* of product design 
with our customers, not just plant a stake in the ground and say "this is what 
we've done; take it or leave it."

To this end, at the onset of a new product cycle we imagine the hardware and 
firmware as an elastic canvas upon which we and our customers can sketch and 
refine ideas. This means products must be endowed with a great degree of 
modularity; we have to leave spaces that can be filled in the future, firing 
the imagination of users. Here's a musical analogy: If you've ever listened to 
jazz trumpeter Miles Davis play, you'll notice some gaps between his phrases. 
These allow listeners to engage with his music, completing their part of the 
conversation. The result? You work a bit harder at it, but come away more 
satisfied. (Don't get me started on the Key of Morse.)

What this means in practice is that we take continuous customer input, weight 
it, adjust firmware implementation priority, and revise or extend hardware over 
time. Let me give you two examples of how this has played out.

K2

The K2 was the test case for our "canvas" development model. To ensure 
flexibility, we designed intermodule communications around a 1-wire bus -- the 
auxBus -- which we routed to every option connector in the radio. These 
connectors were strategically distributed to nodes where they could pick up 
supply voltages, control, and RF or audio paths. The idea was that each module 
would have its own small MCU, hanging on the auxBus, where it could exchange 
information with the main MCU.

We then started shipping the K2 to early adopters, soliciting their input on 
what they'd like to see next. I can't claim that this process was entirely 
democratic, and in truth it was messy at times. But the upshot was that we 
quickly followed with new K2 options and firmware features in an order that 
gave users a vote. When 60 meters came on the scene, we added a module for that 
as well.

Here's where the auxBus comes in: On power-up, each option module checks in 
with the main MCU, reporting its status. But the MCU needn't know every detail 
of how modules function. For example, when you go into the menu entry for the 
K2's ATU (KAT2), the text for the various settings is supplied by the KAT2's 
own MCU, over the auxBus. If you update the ATU module to one that has 
different settings, the main MCU doesn't have to be updated -- just the KAT2 
itself. The main MCU thus functions as a "server" for semantic information 
supplied by each of the option modules.

The K2 is also an exemplar of hardware flexibility, embodied in something we 
called the 2D fastener. This is a short length of 1/4" aluminum bar with three 
tapped 4-40 holes that permits attachment of PC boards, sheet metal, and 
hardware. Over the years we and our customers have taken advantage of 2D 
fasteners to upgrade or enhance products. Our seafaring customers helped us 
migrate to all stainless-steel hardware at some point, facilitated by 2D 
fasteners as generic attachment points.

Shortly after we thought we'd fully populated the K2 with options, we were 
contacted by Lyle Johnson, KK7P. Lyle had reverse-engineered the auxBus node 
associated with our KAF2 analog audio filter module, where he inserted his own: 
the KDSP2, a DSP-based audio filter complete with noise reduction. This is an 
extreme case of tapping community creativity. In addition to adding the KDSP2 
to our product line, we added Lyle to our engineering staff.

One final note about the K2 and extensibility. Once we had accumulated a number 
of useful upgrades, we created an "A" to "B" conversion kit. This 

Re: [Elecraft] K3 SignaLink & FT8 Question

[Jack Brindle via Elecraft]

This is close. As others have stated, two adapters are required. One is the 
Signalink (or other audio interface). The second is a serial adapter, 
preferably based on an FTDI chip. I believe it is the second you are really 
asking about. The serial adapter provides the actual control communications 
between the computer and the K3. It is the same interface you would have used 
for updating K3 firmware or otherwise controlling the K3 from the computer.

The Signalink should do a good job providing the sound interface needed for FT8 
with the K3. There are other less expensive solutions (and several that cost 
more as well), but since you already have the Signalink, use it!

WSJTX is relatively easy to get going, but you will want to read the manual to 
be able to understand and set the various details in the program. Just select 
the audio interface and the serial port in the WSJTX settings dialog and things 
should start working quickly. After you start playing, you will have more 
questions.

73!
Jack, W6FB


> On Apr 16, 2019, at 8:35 AM, Barry  wrote:
> 
> Doug,
>To try and get you an answer, I offer the following. The SignaLink 
> requires NO software for itself. It will show up as a USB CODEC. It is this 
> that you need to tell WSJTX that you want to use. That solves the audio 
> issue. Frequency will be controlled by WSJTX if you tell it what radio you 
> are using, port it is on, and port data rate and format. The latter is 
> usually 38400 and 8N1 and the port number available from the computer's 
> device manager. To transmit, use the VOX on the radio and nothing else is 
> required except to set the levels and make sure you are in DATA A mode. Have 
> fun.
> 
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Doug Turnbull" 
> To: "Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS" ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: 4/16/2019 9:16:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 SignaLink & FT8 Question
> 
>> Petr, I have no idea how the threads are combined.   I initiated this
>> question without any reference to the K1 and used the title above which does
>> not mention the K1.I am trying to resolve a problem not cause one.   My
>> interest it that when visiting a friend in USA that I can get him up and
>> running with his K3 and his new SignaLink on FT8.My specific concern is
>> with WSJTX controlling the frequency.   Sorry for any trouble cause your
>> good self.
>> 
>>  73 Doug EI2CN
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS
>> Sent: 16 April 2019 13:11
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 SignaLink & FT8 Question
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> can you split the threads?
>> 
>> It has nothing to do with originally launched Hamradio/K1 TX part repairing
>> thread please.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> 73 - Petr, OK1RP
>> "Apple & Elecraft freak"
>> B:http://ok1rp.blogspot.com
>> MeWe: https://bit.ly/2HGPoDx
>> MeWe: https://bit.ly/2FmwvDt
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Re: [Elecraft] Wanted K2

[lmarion]

Been building/home brewing  since I was 11.

K2 sn40 was the most fun radio building experience of my life, with K1, KX1 
,KX2, KX3 and others being the frosting on the cake.


K2 still monitors 6 meters with the transverter , as the  K3S  is in the 
main position now, where Wayne's Sierra was way back when now.


Thanks for making it fun guys.

Leroy AB7CE

-Original Message- 
From: jack frake

Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 8:04 AM
To: Albert Little
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Wanted K2

Well, I do have one. However, since I'm so fond of my little radio, the
price would be 15,750 US dollars and you pay for shipping :*)


On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 8:08 PM Albert Little 
Hi
Does anyone have a K2/10 for sale with antenna tuner and ssb ?
Thanks,
AlbertW5APL
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 SignaLink & FT8 Question

[Barry]

Doug,
To try and get you an answer, I offer the following. The SignaLink 
requires NO software for itself. It will show up as a USB CODEC. It is 
this that you need to tell WSJTX that you want to use. That solves the 
audio issue. Frequency will be controlled by WSJTX if you tell it what 
radio you are using, port it is on, and port data rate and format. The 
latter is usually 38400 and 8N1 and the port number available from the 
computer's device manager. To transmit, use the VOX on the radio and 
nothing else is required except to set the levels and make sure you are 
in DATA A mode. Have fun.


73,
Barry
K3NDM

-- Original Message --
From: "Doug Turnbull" 
To: "Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS" ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 4/16/2019 9:16:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 SignaLink & FT8 Question


Petr, I have no idea how the threads are combined.   I initiated this
question without any reference to the K1 and used the title above which does
not mention the K1.I am trying to resolve a problem not cause one.   My
interest it that when visiting a friend in USA that I can get him up and
running with his K3 and his new SignaLink on FT8.My specific concern is
with WSJTX controlling the frequency.   Sorry for any trouble cause your
good self.

  73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS
Sent: 16 April 2019 13:11
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 SignaLink & FT8 Question

Hi folks,

can you split the threads?

It has nothing to do with originally launched Hamradio/K1 TX part repairing
thread please.

Thanks,



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Re: [Elecraft] Visalia?

[CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft]

Sorry for the delay answering, we're on holiday and the Iphoney thing is not 
easy with my fingers.  
Essentially, add a video capture box to the the vga output from the P3 and send 
that with the radio data.  Don't ask me any more, I just don't know.  The main 
thing is you don't need a camera to look at the P3 screen which would lose 
resolution and seems very clunky to me.  Looking forward to doing this in the 
next month or 2.  Eric gave me his card to call him when I'm ready.  He was 
demonstrating the system at the show via hotel WiFi which kept dropping. 
David G3UNA
> On 16 April 2019 at 03:28 Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
> 
> And, the outcome of the conversation was???
> 
> 73,
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
> On 4/15/2019 5:22 PM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote:
> > I had a nice chat with Eric talking about remoting the P3
> > David G3UNA
> >> On 15 April 2019 at 23:01 Barry Baines via Elecraft 
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Bill:
> >>
> >>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 12:18 AM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> No. There were the usual show special deals and the KPA1500 was 
> >>> emphasized. The whole conference, including the vendor area, was fairly 
> >>> low key, with nothing new and earth shattering.
> >> Out of curiosity. did Flex Radio Systems tout their new SmartSDR v3,0.19 
> >> featuring “multiFlex” that allows two operators to share one Flex-6xxx 
> >> series transceiver (or one operator use two devices such as a laptop with 
> >> SmartSDR and a Maestro connected to the same transceiver at the same 
> >> time)?  Given the focus on DX and contesting at Visalia, I’m wondering 
> >> what the crowd reaction might have been to this newly released capability?
> >>
> >> I suspect that while this is a technical achievement, non-contest users 
> >> are being challenged to determine how exactly multiFLEX works and what 
> >> advantages it brings to their operating experience.  However, there 
> >> appears to be significant benefits to multi operator contest stations as 
> >> well as single operator two radio (SO2R) setups, reducing the number of 
> >> transceivers and associated control boxes/cabling while allowing both two 
> >> operations using the same transceiver to share the same antenna.
> >>
> >> I also suspect that what is driving Flex’s focus on the needs of contest 
> >> operations is that contest stations spend ‘real money’ on equipment and 
> >> software to enhance their competitive advantage. It’ll be interesting to 
> >> see whether the evolution of technology by Flex using SDR will translate 
> >> to tangible benefits for the "rest of us” as well as whether other 
> >> equipment manufacturers respond to these technical enhancements.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Barry, WD4ASW
> >>
> >>> 73 Bill AE6JV
> >>>
> >>> On 4/15/19 at 9:05 PM, k2vco@gmail.com (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) wrote:
> >>>
>  Did Elecraft show or hint at anything interesting at the Visalia DX 
>  Convention?
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Re: [Elecraft] [K1] TX part sick

[Don Wilhelm]

Petr.

Turn that manual to Appendix E near the back.  And on page 6 of that 
Appendix, you will find Transmitter Signal Tracing.

Set up the K1 as instructed there, and no damage will be done.

Then make the measurements in the order listed.  You will need an RF 
probe.  If you are using an oscilloscope (with a 10X probe), multiply 
the expected values by 2.8 to obtain the expected peak to peak RF 
voltage measurements.


At the FIRST measurement that is significantly less than the expected 
value (expect as much as a 10% variation before saying it is 
significant) you have reached the output of the failing stage.

Correct that stage and move onward to the next failure point.

That is the procedure required to determine why it is not working.

If the final is blown, replace it with the K1PAKIT from Elecraft.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 4/16/2019 9:17 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS wrote:

Don,

I checked other parts in TX section and it seems to be ok (refer to manual
2000 Rev. D). Just removed the 5th turn on secondary winding of T3.

Is there something else strange or danger which I should check in order to
avoid smoke during the test or even blowing the final please?

Many thanks mate,

Petr




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Re: [Elecraft] Visalia?

[CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft]

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Re: [Elecraft] Wanted K2

[jack frake]

Well, I do have one. However, since I'm so fond of my little radio, the
price would be 15,750 US dollars and you pay for shipping :*)


On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 8:08 PM Albert Little  Hi
> Does anyone have a K2/10 for sale with antenna tuner and ssb ?
> Thanks,
> AlbertW5APL
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Re: [Elecraft] [K1] TX part sick

[Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS]

Don,

I checked other parts in TX section and it seems to be ok (refer to manual
2000 Rev. D). Just removed the 5th turn on secondary winding of T3. 

Is there something else strange or danger which I should check in order to
avoid smoke during the test or even blowing the final please?

Many thanks mate,

Petr




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 SignaLink & FT8 Question

[Doug Turnbull]

Petr, I have no idea how the threads are combined.   I initiated this
question without any reference to the K1 and used the title above which does
not mention the K1.I am trying to resolve a problem not cause one.   My
interest it that when visiting a friend in USA that I can get him up and
running with his K3 and his new SignaLink on FT8.My specific concern is
with WSJTX controlling the frequency.   Sorry for any trouble cause your
good self.

  73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS
Sent: 16 April 2019 13:11
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 SignaLink & FT8 Question

Hi folks,

can you split the threads?

It has nothing to do with originally launched Hamradio/K1 TX part repairing
thread please.

Thanks,



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 SignaLink & FT8 Question

[Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS]

Hi folks,

can you split the threads?

It has nothing to do with originally launched Hamradio/K1 TX part repairing
thread please.

Thanks,



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[Elecraft] K3 SignaLink & FT8 Question

[Doug Turnbull]

Bob, May I ask you a further question, please?Do I need any additional
software for the interface from the K3 serial port to the PC using either
RS232 or USB and an adaptor?I understand that the SignaLink may not
itself be required but am going to proceed with it anyway.   I would like to
make sure that WSJTX can shift the frequency and band for FT8.   Thank you
for your help.

  73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
Sent: 15 April 2019 15:47
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 SignaLink & FT8 Question

The  Signalink  provides only the audio path to / from the computer and 
radio.

You will need either the RS232 or USB interface between the radio and 
computer to handle the frequency control and PTT command.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 4/15/2019 9:03 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
> Dear OMs and YLs,
>   I am going to help a friend get onto FT8.   He has a new
Tigertronics
> SignaLink, with the header for the K3 and appropriate cables for the K3.
> This however does not in and of itself provide the ability to shift band
or
> frequency in the case of Fox Hound mode.
>
>  Is it correct to say that a cable from the K3 RS232 port possibly via
> the P3 to the PC is all that is required to gain this frequency shifting
> capability.   The software being used other than what comes with the
> SignaLink is standard WSJTX Version 2.? from K1JT's stable.
>
>  I use FT8 some here but have a MicroKeyer II.   This is my first time
> using a SignaLink. Your guidance is appreciated.Thank you in
> advance.
>
>   73 Doug EI2CN
>
>   
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and FreeDV

[Jim Rhodes]

An inexpensive USB sound card (look for one with line in) say about $15(US)
and a couple of audio cables is all you need. Set your levels (4 bars with
5th flashing on transmit, best decode on receive) and away you go. I am not
familiar with FreeDV, if it has the ability to do PTT over com port you can
key with that, otherwise you can set up VOX. KX3 does not do FSK, you have
to use AFSK. Not a big deal, just keep an eye on the transmit level.

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 2:58 AM Kev Schache 
wrote:

> Not knowing anything about digital modes, I've become intrigued by
> FreeDV and figured that maybe I should  give it a go.  I've read a bit,
> watched some relevant YouTube,  re-read Don's (W3FPR) article on his
> website and figured I'll need an external sound card.  I've also checked
> out the FreeDV website and downloaded the software.  Now I'm looking at
> SignaLink and also West Mountain Radio RIGblaster.  The facts are
> though, I haven't got much of a clue, so any help will be great.
>
> Has anyone used either of these products with the KX3 for FreeDV?  Any
> recommendations ?
>
> Thanks to all in advance
>
> 73Kev VK5KS
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[Elecraft] KX3 and FreeDV

[Kev Schache]

Not knowing anything about digital modes, I've become intrigued by 
FreeDV and figured that maybe I should  give it a go.  I've read a bit, 
watched some relevant YouTube,  re-read Don's (W3FPR) article on his 
website and figured I'll need an external sound card.  I've also checked 
out the FreeDV website and downloaded the software.  Now I'm looking at 
SignaLink and also West Mountain Radio RIGblaster.  The facts are 
though, I haven't got much of a clue, so any help will be great.


Has anyone used either of these products with the KX3 for FreeDV?  Any 
recommendations ?


Thanks to all in advance

73    Kev VK5KS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility and Win 10

[Gary Smith]

TypeDevice Manager in your search 
window. When it opens look for "Ports"

write down your existing port numbers.

Pull your USB.

The number that leaves is your necessary 
port number.

re-attach the USB and now in the utility, 
go to that port number with the proper 
baud (38K, 36K, something like that) and 
you should reconnect

Gary
KA1J

> Using the correct port?
> 
> On 4/15/2019 5:47 PM, w4sc wrote:
> > Using FTDI USB from Elecraft,  FTDI latest drivers, No HUB, Works
> > with win7,  does not work with Win10.
> >
> > Going back to Win 7.
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >
> > From: Don Wilhelm
> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 4:16 PM
> > To: w4sc; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility and Win 10
> >
> > Are you using a USB to serial adapter?  If so, have you downloaded
> > and installed the latest drivers for that adapter (if the Elecraft
> > KUSB the drivers are from FTDI).  Reboot the computer after
> > installation.
> >
> > Use a USB port on the computer, not on a hub.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> > On 4/15/2019 3:54 PM, w4sc wrote:
> >> Having trouble with Win10 and K3 Utility communicating with K3. 
> >> Latest K3 utility, and have tried 2 different Win10 machines, all
> >> latest updates.  Tried lower/higher speeds, no joy.  Works FB win7.
> >>   (tnx again Microsoft!!)  Ideas anyone??
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