Re: [Elecraft] FSK-D, Y-BOX & WinKeyer - config help please

[Mark Musick]

Kevin,
I think going to the FLDIGI reflector is your best bet.
It is good to know it is a FLDIGI issue and not a hardware issue.
Sorry I couldn’t be more help.
Good luck finding the fix and please let us know here on the Elecraft reflector 
what you find.

73,
Mark, WB9CIF

From: Kevin, N4TT 
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 02:45
To: Mark Musick 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FSK-D, Y-BOX & WinKeyer - config help please

Hi Mark... I'm sure you're right that it is something Fldigi is sending but it 
is not part of the macro. It's the same macro I use with AFSK (and CW). It 
seems to only happen when the macro contains  which is supposed to put the 
rig back into receive at the end of the macro. If I send the same macro without 
 then there are no additional characters sent.

I'll probably head over to the fldigi forum soon and see what's said there.

Kev



On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 10:39 PM Mark Musick 
mailto:markmus...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Kevin,
I don't use FLDIGI, but I can tell you what you are seeing is not a hardware 
issue.
The reason your seeing TT N4TT PSE K is because that is what FLDIGI is sending.
You need to look at the setup in FLDIGI.
Is there a message that has TT N4TT PSE K that is chained to the message you 
created?
Look in the FLDIGI manual or help file your answer may be there.

73,
Mark, WB9CIF

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>> On 
Behalf Of Kevin, N4TT
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 00:52
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector 
mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>
Subject: [Elecraft] FSK-D, Y-BOX & WinKeyer - config help please

I seem to be digging a deeper hole so it's time to come to the K3 experts again.

I'm still trying to get FSK (not AFSK) to work. My setup is a K3s, Y-Box, 
WinKeyer and Fldigi.

I think I have everything set up properly but something very strange is 
happening. My CQ string is:


CQ CQ CQ de   
CQ CQ CQ depse k 

What shows up on Fldigi when sending:

CQ CQ CQ de N4TT N4TT N4TT
CQ CQ CQ de N4TT N4TT N4TT pse k
TT N4TT PSE K

Note that last line. I don't know where it's coming from. And it is showing up 
because tones are still being generated. The tone stops right after PSE K 
(caps).

I have another macro:


 de   kn


It sends:
 de N4TT N4TT kn
T KN

The physical setup:

WinKeyer PTT to Y-Box FSK-in (tied to Accy pin1) WinKeyer KEY1 to Y-Box PTT-in 
(tied to Accy pin 4)

Radio is in DATA FSK-D 45 bps.

I'm not sure what else to try.

73,
Kevin N4TT
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Re: [Elecraft] FSK-D, Y-BOX & WinKeyer - config help please

[Kevin, N4TT]

Hi Mark... I'm sure you're right that it is something Fldigi is sending but
it is not part of the macro. It's the same macro I use with AFSK (and CW).
It seems to only happen when the macro contains  which is supposed to
put the rig back into receive at the end of the macro. If I send the same
macro without  then there are no additional characters sent.

I'll probably head over to the fldigi forum soon and see what's said there.

Kev



On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 10:39 PM Mark Musick  wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
> I don't use FLDIGI, but I can tell you what you are seeing is not a
> hardware issue.
> The reason your seeing TT N4TT PSE K is because that is what FLDIGI is
> sending.
> You need to look at the setup in FLDIGI.
> Is there a message that has TT N4TT PSE K that is chained to the message
> you created?
> Look in the FLDIGI manual or help file your answer may be there.
>
> 73,
> Mark, WB9CIF
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> On Behalf Of Kevin, N4TT
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 00:52
> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector 
> Subject: [Elecraft] FSK-D, Y-BOX & WinKeyer - config help please
>
> I seem to be digging a deeper hole so it's time to come to the K3 experts
> again.
>
> I'm still trying to get FSK (not AFSK) to work. My setup is a K3s, Y-Box,
> WinKeyer and Fldigi.
>
> I think I have everything set up properly but something very strange is
> happening. My CQ string is:
>
> 
> CQ CQ CQ de   
> CQ CQ CQ depse k 
>
> What shows up on Fldigi when sending:
>
> CQ CQ CQ de N4TT N4TT N4TT
> CQ CQ CQ de N4TT N4TT N4TT pse k
> TT N4TT PSE K
>
> Note that last line. I don't know where it's coming from. And it is
> showing up because tones are still being generated. The tone stops right
> after PSE K (caps).
>
> I have another macro:
>
> 
>  de   kn
> 
>
> It sends:
>  de N4TT N4TT kn
> T KN
>
> The physical setup:
>
> WinKeyer PTT to Y-Box FSK-in (tied to Accy pin1) WinKeyer KEY1 to Y-Box
> PTT-in (tied to Accy pin 4)
>
> Radio is in DATA FSK-D 45 bps.
>
> I'm not sure what else to try.
>
> 73,
> Kevin N4TT
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Re: [Elecraft] FSK-D, Y-BOX & WinKeyer - config help please

[Mark Musick]

Hi Kevin,
I don't use FLDIGI, but I can tell you what you are seeing is not a hardware 
issue.
The reason your seeing TT N4TT PSE K is because that is what FLDIGI is sending.
You need to look at the setup in FLDIGI.
Is there a message that has TT N4TT PSE K that is chained to the message you 
created?
Look in the FLDIGI manual or help file your answer may be there.

73,
Mark, WB9CIF

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Kevin, N4TT
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 00:52
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] FSK-D, Y-BOX & WinKeyer - config help please

I seem to be digging a deeper hole so it's time to come to the K3 experts again.

I'm still trying to get FSK (not AFSK) to work. My setup is a K3s, Y-Box, 
WinKeyer and Fldigi.

I think I have everything set up properly but something very strange is 
happening. My CQ string is:


CQ CQ CQ de   
CQ CQ CQ depse k 

What shows up on Fldigi when sending:

CQ CQ CQ de N4TT N4TT N4TT
CQ CQ CQ de N4TT N4TT N4TT pse k
TT N4TT PSE K

Note that last line. I don't know where it's coming from. And it is showing up 
because tones are still being generated. The tone stops right after PSE K 
(caps).

I have another macro:


 de   kn


It sends:
 de N4TT N4TT kn
T KN

The physical setup:

WinKeyer PTT to Y-Box FSK-in (tied to Accy pin1) WinKeyer KEY1 to Y-Box PTT-in 
(tied to Accy pin 4)

Radio is in DATA FSK-D 45 bps.

I'm not sure what else to try.

73,
Kevin N4TT
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Re: [Elecraft] FSK-D, Y-BOX & WinKeyer - config help please

[Jim Rhodes]

OK, just to make sure. The FSK signal on the ACC connector goes to pin 1,
the PTT signal goes to pin 4 and the ground connection goes to pin 5. From
your description I am not sure how you have everything wired. I use a box I
made years ago that has the 15 pin connectors like the Y-box and 9 pin
connectors for 2 serial ports with transistor switches for FSK and PTT.
(Have been using this for years longer than the Y-box has been around. My
WinKeyer is also old and doesn't do RTTY, but then I don't need it to. This
is used on my K3, but the connector is the same of course.

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 7:58 PM Kevin, N4TT  wrote:

> I seem to be digging a deeper hole so it's time to come to the K3 experts
> again.
>
> I'm still trying to get FSK (not AFSK) to work. My setup is a K3s, Y-Box,
> WinKeyer and Fldigi.
>
> I think I have everything set up properly but something very strange is
> happening. My CQ string is:
>
> 
> CQ CQ CQ de   
> CQ CQ CQ depse k
> 
>
> What shows up on Fldigi when sending:
>
> CQ CQ CQ de N4TT N4TT N4TT
> CQ CQ CQ de N4TT N4TT N4TT pse k
> TT N4TT PSE K
>
> Note that last line. I don't know where it's coming from. And it is showing
> up because tones are still being generated. The tone stops right after PSE
> K (caps).
>
> I have another macro:
>
> 
>  de   kn
> 
>
> It sends:
>  de N4TT N4TT kn
> T KN
>
> The physical setup:
>
> WinKeyer PTT to Y-Box FSK-in (tied to Accy pin1)
> WinKeyer KEY1 to Y-Box PTT-in (tied to Accy pin 4)
>
> Radio is in DATA FSK-D 45 bps.
>
> I'm not sure what else to try.
>
> 73,
> Kevin N4TT
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[Elecraft] FSK-D, Y-BOX & WinKeyer - config help please

[Kevin, N4TT]

I seem to be digging a deeper hole so it's time to come to the K3 experts
again.

I'm still trying to get FSK (not AFSK) to work. My setup is a K3s, Y-Box,
WinKeyer and Fldigi.

I think I have everything set up properly but something very strange is
happening. My CQ string is:


CQ CQ CQ de   
CQ CQ CQ depse k


What shows up on Fldigi when sending:

CQ CQ CQ de N4TT N4TT N4TT
CQ CQ CQ de N4TT N4TT N4TT pse k
TT N4TT PSE K

Note that last line. I don't know where it's coming from. And it is showing
up because tones are still being generated. The tone stops right after PSE
K (caps).

I have another macro:


 de   kn


It sends:
 de N4TT N4TT kn
T KN

The physical setup:

WinKeyer PTT to Y-Box FSK-in (tied to Accy pin1)
WinKeyer KEY1 to Y-Box PTT-in (tied to Accy pin 4)

Radio is in DATA FSK-D 45 bps.

I'm not sure what else to try.

73,
Kevin N4TT
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[Elecraft] Looking for KX-1

[Bob Conder via Elecraft]

 I sold my KX-1 (thank you) but Frank w3okw is looking for one.His email is 
fboots@msn.comPlease respond to himtnx, bob k4rlc
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote K3s clock setting

[Don Sayler]

Thanks Dick.I'll check that out.DonSent via my Mobile
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AM  (GMT-08:00) To: 'Don Sayler' , elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Remote K3s clock setting The K3 Utility adjusts date & 
time with SWTnn; followed by a series of UP;or DN; commands. Current date/time 
is read with DS; after switching to theappropriate menu.73 de Dick, 
K6KR-Original Message-From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
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17, 2019 08:50To: elecr...@mailman.qth.netSubject: [Elecraft] Remote K3s clock 
settingI've looked through the Programmer's Reference guide for info on setting 
theK3S clock remotely.I have found information for the clocks in the KX2 & 
KX3.There doesn't appear to be a command for setting the clock in the K3S. Did 
Imiss something? There must be a way, since the Elecraft Utility 
doesit.ThanksDon W7OXRSent via my 
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[Elecraft] MFJ 1234

[John Pierce via Elecraft]

I'm interested in remotely controlling my KX3 at the home location.  I am
interested in knowing what hardware is needed to accomplish this using a
laptop at the remote location.  I am interested in voice and cw operation.

 

John

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Re: [Elecraft] Remote K3s clock setting

[dick]

The K3 Utility adjusts date & time with SWTnn; followed by a series of UP;
or DN; commands. Current date/time is read with DS; after switching to the
appropriate menu.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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Subject: [Elecraft] Remote K3s clock setting

I've looked through the Programmer's Reference guide for info on setting the
K3S clock remotely.I have found information for the clocks in the KX2 & KX3.
There doesn't appear to be a command for setting the clock in the K3S. Did I
miss something? There must be a way, since the Elecraft Utility does
it.ThanksDon W7OXRSent via my Mobile
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[Elecraft] Remote K3s clock setting

[Don Sayler]

I've looked through the Programmer's Reference guide for info on setting the 
K3S clock remotely.I have found information for the clocks in the KX2 & KX3. 
There doesn't appear to be a command for setting the clock in the K3S. Did I 
miss something? There must be a way, since the Elecraft Utility does 
it.ThanksDon W7OXRSent via my Mobile
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV with microwave transverters

[Don Wilhelm]

Rus,

The key is that you cannot directly set the K3 IF to 144MHz, but you 
must set the CONFIG: XV1 ADR parameter correctly.


See the "Using External Transverters with the K144XV" section in the 
K144XV manual page 21.


You will have to switch the input to your external 144MHz IF 
transverters from the output of your band decoder.


73,
Don W3FPR



On 7/17/2019 8:55 AM, Rus Healy wrote:

Good morning. I have a K3 with the internal K144XV 2-meter transverter. I
want to use it not just for 2 meters, but also as an IF for 903, 1296,
2304, 3456, 5760, and 10 GHz. I have built a band decoder and set the XVn
displays for each band accordingly.

I see that I can't set the IF for the XVn to anything but 28 or 50 MHz, so
that implies that 144 MHz is not supported along with the higher bands and
band decoder configuration. I verified with Elecraft support that this
isn't supported--they steered me here (after a 10-day delay and three
separate emails to get any answer at all, but I digress).

How are others handling this requirement? The automation is important to
me, as I am using it not just to steer the 144-MHz IF, but also to set the
correct LO frequency and steer the output of the Down East Microwave DIGILO
to each transverter based on the band information from the radio.


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Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X v.2.1.0

[Wes]

See 
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Odd-ALC-behavior-td7633052.html#a7633078 
particularly the post(s) by Brian Hunt.


Wes  N7WS

On 7/17/2019 5:32 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
Yes as I wrote earlier there are 3 places which are "in series" if you will, 
that affect the audio level to the radio.  In order: (a) Windows SPKR level. 
(b) WSJT-X PWR slider, (c) K3S Line Gain.


I don't know anything about TX audio processing changes and I don't find it a 
challenge or any difficulty to get the 5th bar to flicker.    Again I will 
comment that I find the default WSJT-X TUNE frequency of 1500 Hz does appear 
to cause a beat with the ALC meter display refresh rate.   It appears as a 
fluctuation or pulsing of the value.   By moving the TUNE frequency away from 
1500  a 100 Hz or so I find the issue is resolved.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 7/16/2019 11:11 PM, Jim N7US wrote:
I had the line in on the radio at 35, but it varies as I tweaked the Windows 
level.


I understand the TX audio processing has changed, and the operation 
(sensitivity?) of the ALC reading makes it much harder to get the fifth 
segment to flicker.


I went back to JTDX (and JTAlertX), which is much easier to get the correct 
TX audio level.


Jim N7US




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[Elecraft] K144XV with microwave transverters

[Rus Healy]

Good morning. I have a K3 with the internal K144XV 2-meter transverter. I
want to use it not just for 2 meters, but also as an IF for 903, 1296,
2304, 3456, 5760, and 10 GHz. I have built a band decoder and set the XVn
displays for each band accordingly.

I see that I can't set the IF for the XVn to anything but 28 or 50 MHz, so
that implies that 144 MHz is not supported along with the higher bands and
band decoder configuration. I verified with Elecraft support that this
isn't supported--they steered me here (after a 10-day delay and three
separate emails to get any answer at all, but I digress).

How are others handling this requirement? The automation is important to
me, as I am using it not just to steer the 144-MHz IF, but also to set the
correct LO frequency and steer the output of the Down East Microwave DIGILO
to each transverter based on the band information from the radio.

Thanks in advance.

--73, Rus, K2UA
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Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X v.2.1.0

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Yes as I wrote earlier there are 3 places which are "in series" if you 
will, that affect the audio level to the radio.  In order: (a) Windows 
SPKR level. (b) WSJT-X PWR slider, (c) K3S Line Gain.


I don't know anything about TX audio processing changes and I don't find 
it a challenge or any difficulty to get the 5th bar to flicker.    Again 
I will comment that I find the default WSJT-X TUNE frequency of 1500 Hz 
does appear to cause a beat with the ALC meter display refresh rate.   
It appears as a fluctuation or pulsing of the value.   By moving the 
TUNE frequency away from 1500  a 100 Hz or so I find the issue is resolved.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 7/16/2019 11:11 PM, Jim N7US wrote:

I had the line in on the radio at 35, but it varies as I tweaked the Windows 
level.

I understand the TX audio processing has changed, and the operation 
(sensitivity?) of the ALC reading makes it much harder to get the fifth segment 
to flicker.

I went back to JTDX (and JTAlertX), which is much easier to get the correct TX 
audio level.

Jim N7US




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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power

[Don Wilhelm]

Peter,

See the article on my webpage www.w3fpr.com.  Scroll down to the last 
entry on the left column and click to bring up the document.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/16/2019 6:46 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:

I should have mentioned, this is on a K3s. What radio settings are involved? Is 
it mic gain or something in the menu?

I did find the new Windows TX level for the K3s (purely by accident; I don’t 
think I could do it again on a bet), and I set it up to 100%. I also set the TX 
level in WSJT-X to 100%. I don’t know if there are any more level controls 
involved, and to be honest, I never like to run anything wide-open.

But with that said (and set), on FT8 transmit now I have four solid ALC bars, 
but I can’t push the 5th one to start flashing, as it had before.

What was even more aggravating was my RX levels went haywire and it took me 
almost an hour to find them. There’s GOT to be an easier way to control all 
these settings!


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