[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2020-08-08 Thread kevinr

Good Evening,

   It has been well over a week since we have had a blank sun. Much 
better than the last year.  Maybe things are looking up. There was some 
radiation from a flare but no CME will arrive. Sunspot AR2770 is 
pointing at us so you never know.


  There are some signs of fall.  A few of the shrubs are starting to 
turn color.  I'm seeing a change in the bird population too. Luckily I 
have a lot of wood ready to collect.  It may be a cold, snowy winter.


   I haven't found the best time for the forty meter net. Propagation 
was better with last week's time change but let's try it another 15 
minutes later.  The QSB may settle down, with a few more long distance 
signals.  As the sun moves south I'll move the time earlier.



Please join us on (or near):

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
 7047 kHz at 0045z Monday (5:45 PM PDT Sunday)

   73,
  Kevin. KD5ONS


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VOICE

(phone voice) I, uh, wanna order a pizza to go and no anchovies...

NICK

No anchovies? You've got the wrong man, I spell my name...Danger. (phone 
hangup)


VOICE

(phone voice) What?



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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 ZOOM Presentation -- Virtual Expo

2020-08-08 Thread Clark Macaulay
Wayne,

As a person with an enginneering background (never used), I really enjoyed
your talk this afternoon.  I dialed in about mid-way through the 3D talk
and wonder if you mentioned the walking stick and binoculars behind you.
Methinks you like the out-of-doors for more than radio.

The best part of the talk was when you said "Elecraft makes cool stuff".
Yes indeed as my K1, K2, KX1 and K3 attest.  I've resisted the KX2 so far
as I do don't much adventure radio,
but then it is so cool

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 7:51 PM Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> My pleasure, Grant. First Zoom presentation for me. I wasn't sure how the
> content (3D model tour) would go over, but the attendees turned out to be
> quite enthusiastic. The part I wasn't worried about was stage fright (year
> of playing guitar for large crowds, solo :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
> > On Aug 8, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Grant Youngman 
> wrote:
> >
> > If you missed it this morning, be sure to check it out tomorrow.
> >
> > Great presentation!!!  Thanks, Wayne ….
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with a straight key.

2020-08-08 Thread Carl Clawson
My spidey sense tells me to mention that you have to use a stereo plug into
the KX3.

73, Carl WS7L

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 8:02 AM rich hurd WC3T  wrote:

> Either a very pithy post, or HTML.  :)
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Net Reminders

2020-08-08 Thread Paul Van Dyke
Sunday  Sunday  Sunday
Not a race track ... get to know others that have Elecraft radios
Zoom Zoom .. There is now an Elecraft Zoom "gathering"

Join the Elecraft lovers for a Zoom QSO. No QRM, QRN, everyone 40 over S9.
This Sunday at 2000z.
Potential topics: how you got into Ham Radio, what kind of work do you do
(or did . . . ).
Please put your call letters and name in the zoom window.
The link:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83067882424?pwd=RVdteld5bW53eWdxZ0FKQysvcWV6dz09

73, Carl, K8NU

The Elecraft Nets
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   20 Meter SSB Elecraft Net
   Sunday  14.3035 +/- kHz at 1800Z

   *Please take note of time change *
  40 Meter SSB Elecraft Net
   Sunday  7.280 kHz at 19:000z

   20 Meter CW Elecraft Net
   Sunday 14.050.5 kHz at 2200z:

   40 Meter CW Elecraft Net
   Sunday 7.047.5 kHz at z:

   *Please take note of frequency change *
   80 Meter SSB Elecraft Net
   Sunday Night  3.942+/- at 01:00z

Hope to "hear" you
  Put a copy up in your shack
Paul   KB9AVO
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 ZOOM Presentation -- Virtual Expo

2020-08-08 Thread Grant Youngman
Of course, we’d like to see the 3D models of the K4, too :-)

Grant NQ5T

> On Aug 8, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> My pleasure, Grant. First Zoom presentation for me. I wasn't sure how the 
> content (3D model tour) would go over, but the attendees turned out to be 
> quite enthusiastic. The part I wasn't worried about was stage fright (year of 
> playing guitar for large crowds, solo :)
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
>> 
>> If you missed it this morning, be sure to check it out tomorrow.
>> 
>> Great presentation!!!  Thanks, Wayne ….
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-08 Thread Jim Brown

On 8/8/2020 5:15 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote:

I don't need a printed manual with my device. I think that they can look nice 
and be useful, though. I do appreciate a PDF that is not write protected, so 
that I can make my own notes and correct mistakes. I also appreciate a manual 
that is updated regularly. I don't like trolling lists and doing web searches, 
just to get vital information, and it is not a good use of employee time to be 
answering such questions repeatedly. I simply save each PDF version with all 
its notes, and then I can look in each version that I have.


Hi Rich,

I've also done a lot of tech writing over the years, including manuals 
for engineering software. Elecraft manuals are all on their website, and 
in my experience are pretty good. A printed copy is packed with their 
products. My only complaint about revisions (and there are revisions, 
mostly due to firmware upgrades) is that online versions should include 
full change logs.  Each product has its own updating program, and last I 
looked, the only place they publish change logs, and it doesn't 
reference the manual. This is convenient for Elecraft, but IMO, lousy 
for the user.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 ZOOM Presentation -- Virtual Expo

2020-08-08 Thread Wayne Burdick
My pleasure, Grant. First Zoom presentation for me. I wasn't sure how the 
content (3D model tour) would go over, but the attendees turned out to be quite 
enthusiastic. The part I wasn't worried about was stage fright (year of playing 
guitar for large crowds, solo :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR



> On Aug 8, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
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> If you missed it this morning, be sure to check it out tomorrow.
> 
> Great presentation!!!  Thanks, Wayne ….
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 3D/X-ray model live demo at QSO Today Ham Expo

2020-08-08 Thread Rose
On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 10:33 Neil Zampella  wrote:

> I'm assuming that all the Zoom presentations will be available, since
> I'm assuming that people like me won't be able to view some of them
> live.   I'm very interested in the Classic Line presentation, along with
> the K4 presentation.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil, KN3ILZ
>
> On 8/7/2020 1:08 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> > Recorded, yes, but I'm not sure when it will be posted.
> >
> > Love to have everyone there, if possible. Bearing personal witness to my
> first sojourn into the Wilds of Zoom may have entertainment value that
> transcends content.
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> >
> >> On Aug 7, 2020, at 10:55 AM, Eric Garner  wrote:
> >>
> >> Is the presentation going to be recorded for viewing later for those of
> us who cant make it this weekend?
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 9:33 AM Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> >> Curious about how the KX2 and other Elecraft products were designed?
> One of the most important steps in the process is 3D modeling.
> >>
> >> On both Saturday and Sunday, I'll be doing live demos of the KX2,
> including a full tour of the radio's 3D model. This will include:
> >>
> >>   - building a virtual KX2, one assembly at a time
> >>   - xray imaging to illustrate efficient space utilization
> >>   - KXPD2 model (the paddle is directly 3D printed for production)
> >>   - discussion and live Q on design choices, hardware, batteries, etc.
> >>
> >> As mentioned in the previous email, we'll be doing live demos of all
> major project lines at the QSO Today Ham Expo this weekend (visit the Expo
> Website <
> https://www.qsotodayhamexpo.com/> to register). To sign up for any of the
> demos, just click on Booth/Demo Schedule when you visit our booth.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Wayne
> >> N6KR
> >>
> >>
> >> -
> >>
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> >>
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[Elecraft] WA6HHQ Update on Elecraft K4 SDR begins in 8 minutes at QSO Today Ham Expo

2020-08-08 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV
https://qsotoday.vfairs.com/en/hall#

Select Track 4.

A live Q session via Zoom link should appear at the end of the
presentation.

Recording should be available if you miss it.

73,
Bob, N6TV
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[Elecraft] KX2 ZOOM Presentation -- Virtual Expo

2020-08-08 Thread Grant Youngman
If you missed it this morning, be sure to check it out tomorrow.

Great presentation!!!  Thanks, Wayne ….

Grant NQ5T
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 3D/X-ray model live demo at QSO Today Ham Expo

2020-08-08 Thread Phil Genera
All of the actual talks (not the Q) are pre-recorded, unlisted youtube
videos with a transparent pane in front of them to make it hard to get to
the underlying video. A few moments with the page inspector in chrome will
get you the youtube link, which can then play back where and when you
choose.

-- 
Phil


On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 12:33 PM Neil Zampella  wrote:

> I'm assuming that all the Zoom presentations will be available, since
> I'm assuming that people like me won't be able to view some of them
> live.   I'm very interested in the Classic Line presentation, along with
> the K4 presentation.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil, KN3ILZ
>
> On 8/7/2020 1:08 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> > Recorded, yes, but I'm not sure when it will be posted.
> >
> > Love to have everyone there, if possible. Bearing personal witness to my
> first sojourn into the Wilds of Zoom may have entertainment value that
> transcends content.
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> >
> >> On Aug 7, 2020, at 10:55 AM, Eric Garner  wrote:
> >>
> >> Is the presentation going to be recorded for viewing later for those of
> us who cant make it this weekend?
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 9:33 AM Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> >> Curious about how the KX2 and other Elecraft products were designed?
> One of the most important steps in the process is 3D modeling.
> >>
> >> On both Saturday and Sunday, I'll be doing live demos of the KX2,
> including a full tour of the radio's 3D model. This will include:
> >>
> >>   - building a virtual KX2, one assembly at a time
> >>   - xray imaging to illustrate efficient space utilization
> >>   - KXPD2 model (the paddle is directly 3D printed for production)
> >>   - discussion and live Q on design choices, hardware, batteries, etc.
> >>
> >> As mentioned in the previous email, we'll be doing live demos of all
> major project lines at the QSO Today Ham Expo this weekend (visit the Expo
> Website <
> https://www.qsotodayhamexpo.com/> to register). To sign up for any of the
> demos, just click on Booth/Demo Schedule when you visit our booth.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Wayne
> >> N6KR
> >>
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> Elecraft...Full-Contact Ham Radio
> >> www.elecraft.com 
> >>
> >> QSO Today Ham Expo gold sponsor; August 8-9, 2020
> >> www.qsotodayhamexpo.com 
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 3D/X-ray model live demo at QSO Today Ham Expo

2020-08-08 Thread Neil Zampella

I'm assuming that all the Zoom presentations will be available, since
I'm assuming that people like me won't be able to view some of them
live.   I'm very interested in the Classic Line presentation, along with
the K4 presentation.

Thanks,

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 8/7/2020 1:08 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Recorded, yes, but I'm not sure when it will be posted.

Love to have everyone there, if possible. Bearing personal witness to my first 
sojourn into the Wilds of Zoom may have entertainment value that transcends 
content.

Wayne



On Aug 7, 2020, at 10:55 AM, Eric Garner  wrote:

Is the presentation going to be recorded for viewing later for those of us who 
cant make it this weekend?

Eric

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 9:33 AM Wayne Burdick  wrote:
Curious about how the KX2 and other Elecraft products were designed? One of the 
most important steps in the process is 3D modeling.

On both Saturday and Sunday, I'll be doing live demos of the KX2, including a 
full tour of the radio's 3D model. This will include:

  - building a virtual KX2, one assembly at a time
  - xray imaging to illustrate efficient space utilization
  - KXPD2 model (the paddle is directly 3D printed for production)
  - discussion and live Q on design choices, hardware, batteries, etc.

As mentioned in the previous email, we'll be doing live demos of all major project lines at 
the QSO Today Ham Expo this weekend (visit the Expo  
Website  to 
register). To sign up for any of the demos, just click on Booth/Demo Schedule when you 
visit our booth.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with a straight key.

2020-08-08 Thread rich hurd WC3T
Either a very pithy post, or HTML.  :)

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 08:39 Ian Pryke  wrote:

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[Elecraft] KX3 with a straight key.

2020-08-08 Thread Ian Pryke


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-08 Thread Rich NE1EE
On 2020-08-05 03:06:-0700, RICHARD Martin wrote:
>A how to video would be a very nice feature, but we must remember the cost
>of developing such a thing when our friends at Elecraft have to be in
>desperate need of cash.
>...
>Thru most of my professional life, I have been responsible for the
>conception, prototyping, and manufacture of large scientific instruments
>($100K to $5M).  The cost of the manuals/documentation was typically equal
>to the development cost of the product.
>
>Dick KN6AA

I am interested in the KX2, so I am gathering info on the product line to see 
if that is what I want to buy. I skimmed the KX2 vid, and found that it was not 
very useful. It was large a sales pitch.

I have been involved with the dev of user manuals and operating procedures of 
complicated equipment, from stuff on the order of HP 15C calculators to 1100 MW 
generators.

The cost to produce manuals has dropped significantly since 1980, largely due 
to the drop in cost of typesetting. Ironically, I opine, the quality has 
declined. Companies no longer invest in producing good manuals and training 
material, as a result, I see most often that the mfg directs questions to user 
fora. The downside to this is obvious. New users, not knowing what to ask or 
how to phrase a question, flounder around wasting a tremendous number of 
person-hours. I offered to help develop some docs for a few popular products, 
and was told by the developers/companies to simply start using the products, 
learn them well, and then produce those docs.They would be much appreciated!!! 
I declined. I don't have the time to waste learning the products using "seek 
and find" techniques.

The cost of an HP-14C in 2020 USD  was prolly on the order of $250. I'll bet 
the manual cost $10K to develop, independent of typesetting.  But that cost was 
offset to some degree by the cost of the 15C and the number of them sold. 
Elecraft could easily pay attention to these fora, and regularly upgrade the 
manuals by posting new PDFs. 

I recently asked Elecraft a technical question that is not addressed in the 
manuals or on the web, and after 2 passes got a very nice succinct, clear, and 
complete answer. (Note that it took TWO cycles of emails to get that answer.) I 
immediately replied with thanks, and a recommendation that they add those 
comments to the web...and possibly manuals.

I don't need a printed manual with my device. I think that they can look nice 
and be useful, though. I do appreciate a PDF that is not write protected, so 
that I can make my own notes and correct mistakes. I also appreciate a manual 
that is updated regularly. I don't like trolling lists and doing web searches, 
just to get vital information, and it is not a good use of employee time to be 
answering such questions repeatedly. I simply save each PDF version with all 
its notes, and then I can look in each version that I have.

I think that well-produced videos, which abound on the web along with 
not-so-good vids, are very useful. I have seen a remark to the effect that 
someone was familiar with a different model of a radio, and when the newer one 
came out they were up and running in short order. But for someone not familiar 
with the product line, or perhaps not even familiar with radios in general, as 
a new ham, real howto vids can be most useful, I opine. I have been using Canon 
cameras for many years. I wanted a new point and shoot. So after reading 
reviews on various cameras (I am not especially brand-loyal) I decided to get a 
Canon. I had seen comments about how complicated it is for a PaS. I agree. But 
I found myself on familiar ground because of my years of experience w other 
Canons, so I was soon up and running. The other comments about it being 
complicated are valid, especially for one not already familiar with bigger 
Canon cameras.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/100/ATU basic TRX For Sale

2020-08-08 Thread Jan

The Elecraft K3/100/ATU has been sold

73 Jan, K1ND /Stay-Safe /




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Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-08 Thread Rich NE1EE
On 2020-08-07 21:21:-0400, Bill Frantz wrote:
>With the manual online, and support for jumping to the relevant section, it 
>will be better than what I have with the K3, where the manual is on my 
>computer and I have to text search for the relevant section. The neat thing is 
>that the online manual can be automatically updated with new versions of the 
>firmware.

I agree with the idea that the online manual can be frequently updated, but so 
can the PDF of the manual. I like both. I have found with other large projects, 
that the online manual is not well-searchable, and is broken into sections, so 
if I don't know what I am looking for, I can't find it. I have many frustrating 
experiences with that. Also, with the PDF, I can make notes on the manual, as 
long as it is not write-restricted. Some vendors secure their PDFs so that we 
can't copy from the manuals or make notes, both of which are real handicaps for 
the me, with the way I like to operate.

The online version will not be writable, in the sense that I can't make notes 
in the relevant sections, but at least I should be able to copy from the web 
pages. I find that I usually wind up with my own set of notes, because few 
manuals are close to complete. Being able to copy from the manual makes that 
much easier.

My experiences are also that online manuals tend to be less well-developed than 
good quality paper manuals. I am still playing with a variety of methods for 
accumulating notes, including printing occasional pages of online manuals to 
PDF and adding them to my own PDF. 

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[Elecraft] [KPA500] 270V ERR

2020-08-08 Thread Andy Durbin
"We are constantly getting the "270V ERR" when switching over to OPER.  We have 
checked that the micro-switch is working properly and is correctly operated by 
the lid."

If it were mine I'd measure the voltage and ask for the low and high warning 
levels.   Of course you must take proper precautions.  There is a reason there 
is an interlock switch. 

My KPA 500 notes include this:

"Investigation revealed
the PSU board multiplier could produce 210V OFF LOAD with the PSU>LPF jumper
disconnected but only 60v when the jumper was connected. Simulating the pin
diode current consumption with a resistor also produced the same result.
Turned out that R16 which should have been 100 ohm was now 1.2Mohm.
Replacing it fixed that problem

While talking to elecraft support it transpired that there was an upgrade
kit (E850607) that replaces the Q5 FET on the LPF board with a transistor
(as usual no reference could be found to it on the elecraft web site!). This
upgrade has also now been done"

I regret that I did not record the source.

Andy, k3wyc
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