[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

[kevinr]

Good Evening,

   It has been dropping into the 40s each night this week.  I almost 
started a fire in the woodstove. But, by noon it was back to 70 again.  
I collected a lot of dry, bucked up wood and got my exercise.  Ten more 
truck loads and I'll be started.  While I was complaining to the jays I 
must have used my hands too actively.  I saw three sets of ears flick in 
my direction.  About a hundred yards away, through the thinned fir 
trees, I saw a doe, then a yearling, followed by this year's fawn.  They 
weren't moving too fast but they were looking at me.  So were the jays.


   I reviewed a few of my college texts this week: "Fundamentals of 
Applied Electromagnetics" by F. T. Ulaby and "Antenna Theory - Analysis 
and Design" by C. Balanis.  All my book marks and penciled in notes sped 
things up a bit.  Now I need to spruce up the code I wrote around three 
of the antennas I modeled.  My code gave me radiation patterns for 
training neural nets for 1/2 wave dipoles, 1/4 wave monopoles, and full 
wave loop antennas.  It will be fun to add transparency and shading 
while I map them as 3D objects in space.  I need to revamp the sliders 
controlling height above ground and orientation.  They were a kluge when 
I created them, but worked well enough to create data sets to train my 
adaptive ARTmap neural nets.  Ulaby's book is a great primer on fields 
and waves.  Chapter 9 introduces antenna analysis for a 1/2 wave dipole.



Please join us on (or near):

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
 7047 kHz at 0045z Monday (5:45 PM PDT Sunday)

   73,
  Kevin. KD5ONS


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Nr4c]

There were several answers, many were just wrong (1/4-20. Or likely). 

But the absolute best answer was from Wayne of Elecraft who is sending out an 
envelope with a nut.  So who cares what size it is?

I think it might be 6X.75 (mm). 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 29, 2020, at 9:41 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
> 
> Well you had 20+ responses to your question however to my knowledge not one
> answer. Since it's a metric thread it is quite easy to measure the diameter
> in millimeters using a caliper (round up to the nearest size) and then
> measure the distance between threads for the thread pitch.  e.g. M6 x 1
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> 
> Mooneer K6AQ wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
> it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Mooneer K6AQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters

[john]

Or hold  and spin the mouse wheel to zoom however I do not recall
having to do that on any of your articles that I read. I certainly would not
complain about having free access to all of that information.

John KK9A


Jim Brown K9YC wrote:

On 8/28/2020 6:25 PM, W2xj wrote:
> Your website could use larger and easier to read fonts.

Use < +> to zoom window or go to settings in your browser to zoom 
in or out. Has worked fine on my browsers for 25 years. Yours is the 
first complaint.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[john]

Well you had 20+ responses to your question however to my knowledge not one
answer. Since it's a metric thread it is quite easy to measure the diameter
in millimeters using a caliper (round up to the nearest size) and then
measure the distance between threads for the thread pitch.  e.g. M6 x 1

John KK9A


Mooneer K6AQ wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
(I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
it.

Thanks,

-Mooneer K6AQ

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[David Christ]

We are way off topic but as long as we are there I pass this on. 


All  you old timers know about this.  The question is:  How do you bury a 
programmer?

For you youngsters the answer is :  Face down 9 edge first

David K0LUM
First started programming in 1960

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Wes  wrote:
> 
> Not to forget winning WW1 and WWII.
> 
> I remember punch cards fondly.  At Hughes I took a company-sponsored Fortran 
> IV course.  I was in Tucson and the main-frame was in CA.  We would do our 
> coding, punch and submit our cards, the batch would be run overnight and we 
> would come in the next morning to find out how many typos we made.  I wound 
> up dating one of the key punch girls, and reduced my typos to zero.
> 
> Wes  N7WS
> 
> 
> On 8/29/2020 3:33 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> The main reason Phil is that we went to the moon on International Feet and 
>> Pounds [and an uncountable number of 80-column punched cards and boxes of 
>> green-bar].  "If it got us to the moon, it has to be good enough for 
>> everything else."
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>> 
>> PS:  I wonder how many rolls of toilet paper could have been made with all 
>> the chad from those cards?
>> 
>> On 8/29/2020 1:06 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
>>> On 8/29/2020 5:16 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote:
>>> 
 Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set
 a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page.
>>> The Metric Conversion Act goes back to the Ford administration in 1974
>>> (*).  It is enforced slightly less than the Uniform Spitting on the
>>> Sidewalk Act that predates it.  The main reason that we see it at all in
>>> the US is than manufacturers dealing in world-wide markets do not want
>>> to have two different production lines,
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[rich hurd WC3T]

I’m going to request as a non-moderator that we draw a curtain of mercy
across this thread.  Between this and the endless musing on K4
availability/ship dates/etc.,  my Delete key is getting worn out...

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 19:25 Wes  wrote:

> Not to forget winning WW1 and WWII.
>
>
>
> I remember punch cards fondly.  At Hughes I took a company-sponsored
> Fortran IV
>
> course.  I was in Tucson and the main-frame was in CA.  We would do our
> coding,
>
> punch and submit our cards, the batch would be run overnight and we would
> come
>
> in the next morning to find out how many typos we made.  I wound up dating
> one
>
> of the key punch girls, and reduced my typos to zero.
>
>
>
> Wes  N7WS
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/29/2020 3:33 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>
> > The main reason Phil is that we went to the moon on International Feet
> and
>
> > Pounds [and an uncountable number of 80-column punched cards and boxes
> of
>
> > green-bar].  "If it got us to the moon, it has to be good enough for
>
> > everything else."
>
> >
>
> > 73,
>
> >
>
> > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>
> > Sparks NV DM09dn
>
> > Washoe County
>
> >
>
> > PS:  I wonder how many rolls of toilet paper could have been made with
> all the
>
> > chad from those cards?
>
> >
>
> > On 8/29/2020 1:06 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
>
> >> On 8/29/2020 5:16 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set
>
> >>> a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page.
>
> >> The Metric Conversion Act goes back to the Ford administration in 1974
>
> >> (*).  It is enforced slightly less than the Uniform Spitting on the
>
> >> Sidewalk Act that predates it.  The main reason that we see it at all in
>
> >> the US is than manufacturers dealing in world-wide markets do not want
>
> >> to have two different production lines,
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Wes]

Not to forget winning WW1 and WWII.

I remember punch cards fondly.  At Hughes I took a company-sponsored Fortran IV 
course.  I was in Tucson and the main-frame was in CA.  We would do our coding, 
punch and submit our cards, the batch would be run overnight and we would come 
in the next morning to find out how many typos we made.  I wound up dating one 
of the key punch girls, and reduced my typos to zero.


Wes  N7WS


On 8/29/2020 3:33 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
The main reason Phil is that we went to the moon on International Feet and 
Pounds [and an uncountable number of 80-column punched cards and boxes of 
green-bar].  "If it got us to the moon, it has to be good enough for 
everything else."


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

PS:  I wonder how many rolls of toilet paper could have been made with all the 
chad from those cards?


On 8/29/2020 1:06 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 8/29/2020 5:16 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote:


Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set
a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page.

The Metric Conversion Act goes back to the Ford administration in 1974
(*).  It is enforced slightly less than the Uniform Spitting on the
Sidewalk Act that predates it.  The main reason that we see it at all in
the US is than manufacturers dealing in world-wide markets do not want
to have two different production lines,


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Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters

[W2xj]

Nice website.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:08 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
> 
> I did a search on your callsign.  I couldn't find a single publicly 
> attributed contribution you've ever made to the hobby, and yet you have the 
> gall to post a snide and ignorant comment like that.
> 
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
>> On 8/29/2020 12:41 PM, W2xj wrote:
>> page is too busy and is not iPad friendly. I haven’t used a PC for 15 years. 
>> You need to work more on webpage layout.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Fred Jensen]

The main reason Phil is that we went to the moon on International Feet 
and Pounds [and an uncountable number of 80-column punched cards and 
boxes of green-bar].  "If it got us to the moon, it has to be good 
enough for everything else."


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

PS:  I wonder how many rolls of toilet paper could have been made with 
all the chad from those cards?


On 8/29/2020 1:06 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 8/29/2020 5:16 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote:


Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set
a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page.

The Metric Conversion Act goes back to the Ford administration in 1974
(*).  It is enforced slightly less than the Uniform Spitting on the
Sidewalk Act that predates it.  The main reason that we see it at all in
the US is than manufacturers dealing in world-wide markets do not want
to have two different production lines,




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Fred Jensen]

And Len, there is a real society for exactly what you point out ... The 
Duodecimal Society of America [www.dozenal.org] that promotes changing 
the base of our number system to twelve for exactly the same reason.  
Not quite the same as the Flat Earth Society, but equally unlikely to 
make much headway.


I can think of several reasons why an invasion by our northern neighbors 
would be a positive and desirable occurrence. [;=)


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 8/28/2020 7:51 PM, l...@ka7ftp.com wrote:

Actually...  not so "stupid" if you are in the building trades.  12 has more 
factors than 10, which makes is a LOT more convenient when breaking it into divisible 
segments.

Also...  it keeps us safe from the Canadians invading.  Everytime they've tried 
they fall short of their destination.

;)



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Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters

[David Gilbert]

I did a search on your callsign.  I couldn't find a single publicly 
attributed contribution you've ever made to the hobby, and yet you have 
the gall to post a snide and ignorant comment like that.


Dave   AB7E


On 8/29/2020 12:41 PM, W2xj wrote:

page is too busy and is not iPad friendly. I haven’t used a PC for 15 years. 
You need to work more on webpage layout.

Sent from my iPad



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Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters

[Fred Jensen]

Actually, not so much for me.  I have monochrome vision and sites with a 
lot of "color coding" aren't great.  YMMV


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 8/29/2020 2:21 PM, W2xj wrote:

Here’s a readable website

https://k2av.com/




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Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters

[Fred Jensen]

Several bags of salt in the pool should do it. [:=)

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 8/28/2020 4:58 PM, James Bennett via Elecraft wrote:

With a large patio and an in-ground pool, there is absolutely no place for 
conventional 160 meter radials.I came across the FCP several years ago.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3: What Have I Done??

[James Bennett via Elecraft]

OK - general consensus is that it is working as is supposed to. I guess someone 
slipped me some whacky weed when I wasn’t looking. I’ll crawl back in my hole 
now. :-)

73, Jim

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 12:50 PM, James Bennett via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nope, that red line should move off to the right on the P3, just like it does 
> when the XIT is enabled. What happens on your P3 when you turn on RIT on the 
> K3 and true the knob to increase frequency?
> 
> Jim
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Charlie T  wrote:
>> 
>> It sounds to me like it's doing exactly what it should
>> I feel you should re-think this.
>> If you move UP in frequency via the RIT, shouldn't the line move the other 
>> direction, so that the frequency is displayed to the right of the line?
>> 
>> If this is wrong, then I'm the one who's screwy.
>> 
>> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
>> Behalf Of James Bennett via Elecraft
>> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:03 PM
>> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector 
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/P3: What Have I Done??
>> 
>> Just spent an hour reviewing the K3 and P3 manuals to no avail. I’ve had 
>> these two pieces of equipment for ten years and you’d think I ought to know 
>> exactly how to control them, but it appears that either something inside has 
>> gone kaflooy or I’ve screwed up something myself. I suspect the latter…
>> 
>> When I turn on RIT and adjust the RIT knob, the K3 changes frequency and 
>> displays it correctly on the LCD. However, what happens on the P3 is the 
>> opposite! Turning the RIT knob clockwise increases the K3 frequency and 
>> display, but the red line on the P3 moves to the LEFT, not the right as it 
>> should. The P3 frequency display increases as it should, but the red line 
>> goes the opposite direction. The XIT function works as it should.
>> 
>> Any hints? This has me stumped!
>> 
>> Tnx, Jim . W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters

[W2xj]

Here’s a readable website

https://k2av.com/

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> On 8/29/2020 12:41 PM, W2xj wrote:
>> page is too busy and is not iPad friendly. I haven’t used a PC for 15 years. 
> 
> That's YOUR problem, not mine.
> 
>> You need to work more on webpage layout.
> 
> Let's see if I understand this. I spend thousands of hours doing extensive 
> research and generating free content and I need to do more to work with YOUR 
> computer?
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters

[Bert]

You're doing great Jim and we're all thankful for all the
work you've have done, free of charge to the rest of us.

Don't let anybody rattle your cage! ;-))

Bert VE3NR


On 2020-08-29 16:13, Jim Brown wrote:

On 8/29/2020 12:41 PM, W2xj wrote:
page is too busy and is not iPad friendly. I haven’t used a PC for 15 
years. 


That's YOUR problem, not mine.


You need to work more on webpage layout.


Let's see if I understand this. I spend thousands of hours doing 
extensive research and generating free content and I need to do more 
to work with YOUR computer?


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters

[Jim Brown]

On 8/29/2020 12:41 PM, W2xj wrote:
page is too busy and is not iPad friendly. I haven’t used a PC for 15 years. 


That's YOUR problem, not mine.


You need to work more on webpage layout.


Let's see if I understand this. I spend thousands of hours doing 
extensive research and generating free content and I need to do more to 
work with YOUR computer?


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters

[Wes]

Why don't you start a go fund me page so Jim can hire a full-time web page 
designer.

On 8/29/2020 12:41 PM, W2xj wrote:

page is too busy and is not iPad friendly. I haven’t used a PC for 15 years. 
You need to work more on webpage layout.

Sent from my iPad


On Aug 29, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:

On 8/28/2020 6:25 PM, W2xj wrote:

Your website could use larger and easier to read fonts.

Use < +> to zoom window or go to settings in your browser to zoom in or 
out. Has worked fine on my browsers for 25 years. Yours is the first complaint.

73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Phil Kane]

On 8/29/2020 5:16 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote:

> Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set
> a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page.

The Metric Conversion Act goes back to the Ford administration in 1974
(*).  It is enforced slightly less than the Uniform Spitting on the
Sidewalk Act that predates it.  The main reason that we see it at all in
the US is than manufacturers dealing in world-wide markets do not want
to have two different production lines,

* My Ford sedan is built to metric standards...  :)

During my tenure, FCC rules and standards were rewritten to express
dimensions in metric, but the conversion from USCU wasn't smooth.  For
instance, one specification for certain antenna heights was "20 feet
above ground".  So what did the FCC do?  Changed it to "6.1 meters (20
feet) above ground".  Why not an even 6 meters??  Everyone still refers
to it as the "20 foot rule".

The neglected metric unit, although not past of the SI, is the gradian
(grad).  100 grads to a quadrant.  400 grads to a full circle. 1 grad =
0.9 degree.  It is used mainly in European surveying, but since May 2020
is legal for use in the US.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters

[Josh Fiden]

Wow. No good deed...

73
Josh W6XU

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> You need to work more on webpage layout. 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3: What Have I Done??

[James Bennett via Elecraft]

Nope, that red line should move off to the right on the P3, just like it does 
when the XIT is enabled. What happens on your P3 when you turn on RIT on the K3 
and true the knob to increase frequency?

Jim

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Charlie T  wrote:
> 
> It sounds to me like it's doing exactly what it should
> I feel you should re-think this.
> If you move UP in frequency via the RIT, shouldn't the line move the other 
> direction, so that the frequency is displayed to the right of the line?
> 
> If this is wrong, then I'm the one who's screwy.
> 
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
> Behalf Of James Bennett via Elecraft
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:03 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector 
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/P3: What Have I Done??
> 
> Just spent an hour reviewing the K3 and P3 manuals to no avail. I’ve had 
> these two pieces of equipment for ten years and you’d think I ought to know 
> exactly how to control them, but it appears that either something inside has 
> gone kaflooy or I’ve screwed up something myself. I suspect the latter…
> 
> When I turn on RIT and adjust the RIT knob, the K3 changes frequency and 
> displays it correctly on the LCD. However, what happens on the P3 is the 
> opposite! Turning the RIT knob clockwise increases the K3 frequency and 
> display, but the red line on the P3 moves to the LEFT, not the right as it 
> should. The P3 frequency display increases as it should, but the red line 
> goes the opposite direction. The XIT function works as it should.
> 
> Any hints? This has me stumped!
> 
> Tnx, Jim . W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters

[W2xj]

page is too busy and is not iPad friendly. I haven’t used a PC for 15 years. 
You need to work more on webpage layout. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> On 8/28/2020 6:25 PM, W2xj wrote:
>> Your website could use larger and easier to read fonts.
> 
> Use < +> to zoom window or go to settings in your browser to zoom in or 
> out. Has worked fine on my browsers for 25 years. Yours is the first 
> complaint.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] K3/P3: What Have I Done??

[James Bennett via Elecraft]

Just spent an hour reviewing the K3 and P3 manuals to no avail. I’ve had these 
two pieces of equipment for ten years and you’d think I ought to know exactly 
how to control them, but it appears that either something inside has gone 
kaflooy or I’ve screwed up something myself. I suspect the latter…

When I turn on RIT and adjust the RIT knob, the K3 changes frequency and 
displays it correctly on the LCD. However, what happens on the P3 is the 
opposite! Turning the RIT knob clockwise increases the K3 frequency and 
display, but the red line on the P3 moves to the LEFT, not the right as it 
should. The P3 frequency display increases as it should, but the red line goes 
the opposite direction. The XIT function works as it should.

Any hints? This has me stumped!

Tnx, Jim . W6JHB
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[Elecraft] KX3 FOR SALE

[larrydwarner]

For Sale:  Elecraft KX3 S/N 8399 and PX3 S/N 1574

Both Factory Built delivered new December 2015

Low hours, never used outside the shack, nonsmoking home, look like new.

 

KX3KX3 160-6M transceiver S/N 8399

KXAT3   Internal 20W ATU

KXBC3   Internal NiMH Charger w/Real Time Clock

KXFL3Dual-Passband Roofing Filter

KX3-2M-AT 2M module for KX3

KXPD3   Precision Keyer Paddle for KX3

KX3-PCKTKX3 Accessory Cable Set

MH3  Hand Microphone for KX3

PX3Panadapter for KX3   S/N 1574

Plus the KX3 and PX3 have www.gemsproducts.com 
Side KX end panels and Poly-carbonate covers

Cables and other extras included.

New price today over $3,000

All for $1450 including shipping in continental US.

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters

[Jim Brown]

On 8/28/2020 6:25 PM, W2xj wrote:

Your website could use larger and easier to read fonts.


Use < +> to zoom window or go to settings in your browser to zoom 
in or out. Has worked fine on my browsers for 25 years. Yours is the 
first complaint.


73, Jim K9YC



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Re: [Elecraft] W2 wattmeter

[Don Wilhelm]

Joe,

The telling answer is in your statement "the radio has an internal ATU".
The radio is showing the SWR between the radio and the ATU.
The wattmeter is showing you the SWR after the ATU - in other words, the 
SWR of the untuned antenna.  So there may be nothing wrong.


Connect a dummy load to the wattmeter output and see what that reads - 
should be 1.0.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/29/2020 1:29 PM, Joseph McIntire wrote:

My wattmeter  seems to be displaying  the wrong SWR on the LEDs. I bought a 
digital display unit on line. The radio has an internal ATU. The radio says 
tuned 1.0 - 1. when I key the radio says 1.0 - 1 and the DDU says .16 SWR but 
the LEDs show 1.5 - 1. So if I hit 1.2 - 1 the LEDs all flash so I can not tell 
at a glance if the SWR is good. So I was wondering if any one had seen this or 
know  if it can be  fixed without sending it in. I already  replaced the 
coupler do to i thought that was the problem.

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[Elecraft] W2 wattmeter

[Joseph McIntire]

My wattmeter  seems to be displaying  the wrong SWR on the LEDs. I bought a 
digital display unit on line. The radio has an internal ATU. The radio says 
tuned 1.0 - 1. when I key the radio says 1.0 - 1 and the DDU says .16 SWR but 
the LEDs show 1.5 - 1. So if I hit 1.2 - 1 the LEDs all flash so I can not tell 
at a glance if the SWR is good. So I was wondering if any one had seen this or 
know  if it can be  fixed without sending it in. I already  replaced the 
coupler do to i thought that was the problem.

 Joe
 AB3JN

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[Elecraft] OT - HF 40' Tower Vertical recommendaations

[Tom NB5Q]

My 40 year old Ham IV has major problems (stored for 30 years) and I'm
thinking with my limited operating I will just put up a 40' tower (which I
have) and a vertical *without* radials. Does anyone have experience with a
like situation and can recommend a vertical for this purpose. I do have
10m-80m OCFD that will be transferred from 25' pipe to 40' tower.
Thank you,
Tom NB5Q
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Tom Azlin W7SUA]

I like having all the Elecraft discussion on this reflector. I do not 
consider any of it as tying up this one.


Tom w7sua ( group 2 order for a K4, have the K-Line)

On 8/26/2020 7:34 PM, Nr4c wrote:

More likely this information will come from us as we announce the various 
stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the reflectors, probably 
the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot of traffic not of interest 
to the mass membership.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Steve Gray]

This is supposed to be addressed to the group, not Rich specifically, but on
this so-called "smart" 'phone, I cannot see how to do that, nor how to strip
out the miles (kilometres!) of duplicated commentary. Mea culpa my friends.
One day!

While I was still working, I used to build aircraft interior equipment,
specifically galleys and associated structures, and everything was in
imperial (actually decimal inches.) We used UNF and UNC attachment
fasteners. Even Airbus tolerated our decimal inch drawings and Boeing was a
given. I became completely conversant with imperial- both fractional and
decimal, but also metric. I routinely read fractional tape measures as a
decimal inch converted mentally on the fly. What I'm saying is it's only a
cocktail of laziness, stubborness and * to plough ahead with one
system completely in denial of another potentially better one. In my closing
years I did Q.A. and First Article Inspection. I wouldn't have survived with
Boeing or Airbus if I'd refused to be conversant in all systems.

While at college (I did Environmental Engineering) we were taught
dimensional analysis of equations. Everything is reduced to Length, Mass and
Time (ignoring wild cards like viscosity). When you see an equation
substantiated in this way, a light goes on in your head and the benefits of
the S.I. System are obvious. Until that is inculcated into your skull, you
take equations as something that is commited to memory but maybe never
stopping to consider why or who the heck figured that out? Sure you can
arrive at the same results using imperial units, but only if you remember
(without fail) to deploy empirical fudge factors so inches can be used
alongside ounces and so on.

That said, the S.I. unit is the metre. The recognised sub unit is the
millimetre. (not the centimetre). Suppose you want to cut something six feet
long (1,829 millimetres)? You pull out the tape measure and it happens to be
upside down. Enough times for it to be a lurking threat you measure (eg)
1,819 instead of 1.829 by mistake. It's your own fault, but for humans
interacting with the world I submit that feet and inches are a better way,
but for engineers (or anyone that likes to think of themselves as such.) The
S.I. System is a far better way to do things. I also think that the evolved
usage of centimetres is a tacit admission that inches were better than
millimetres. $0.02 of course.

Steve, G4VRR.



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[Elecraft] KX3_2m_limited_power

[HB9MFL]

Hi all,

I have the following effect on my KX3 equipped with the 2m module:
Max Power is set to 3.0W
If I set to TUNE I can increase the rf from 0 up to eg. 3.0W.
But the power does only increase to about 650mW and the most confusing is
the fact that in the display the power jumps back to 0.9W!
A short movie can be see here:

https://www.mycloud.ch/l/P00BBFDF3256A56FD3D07AB35274144A50BF5F24AB9A6B837983B214C77EE5ADA

Unmount all to check. The nut was no more soldered to the final transistor.
Reload firmware
Reload the last configuration when the TRX was working well.
>> Still the same confusing effect.
73
Armin
HB9MFL




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Rich NE1EE]

I enjoy cooking and baking. All my recipes are in metric, and based on mass 
where ever I can, to get away from "cups", etc.
I am an amateur woodworker, and all my work is metric. A while back I completed 
a table with nearly 100 unique angles (trust me, it looks fine ;-)...all the 
while being told that a) I couldn't do it at all, and b) if I could, not in 
metric!!!
I had a guy at the place where I buy wood remark that wood was coming in 
"weird" dimensions! When I got home, I measured it and found that it was exact 
metric dimensions.
Mixing shellac is way easier in metric. You should see the hoops that you jump 
through using USCU.
My ham buddies are constantly remarking "oh, yeah, you use that metric stuff" 
when I mention that my antenna is a 40m EF. Doesn't that make more sense when I 
think of the bands it might work on?

***It's just a difficulty making the transition...then it's easier. I'll bet 
you could get everyone in the US to criticise the use of pounds, shilling, 
pence, and so on, when compared to the dollar in base 10...but turn the 
discussion to a general one of metric, and I get "but it's so confusing" all 
the time...is it really easier to remember conversions of feet and inches to 
metric for antennas? I was calculating an antenna dimension the other day, and 
it came to 1780mm...which is 1.78m...no fancy math involved. Imagine me 
calculating that in feet, and then converting to some precise measurement...I 
don't have a tape measure marked in decimal feet.

I bought a 30m tape that winds up into a case. It has been working fine for 
many years.

With regard to "12 has more factors than 10" in another post, I suggest that 
this is a matter of habit. Being able to divide 12 so many ways doesn't 
necessarily make it more useful, I opine, just more familiar. In grammar 
school, I had to learn a bunch of yard-foot-mile-etc conversions, but in SI, 
it's all base ten. I can divide 1780mm any way I want. In fact, a friend of 
mine who is a builder came to me for help one day calculating distances to do 
with an unusual roof angle. Showing him how to use his calculator to do the 
calcs was the easy part...the hard part was translating 20 feet 3 3/16 inches 
to decimal so that he could do the math, then convert that back to feet and 
inches. There are, I hear, calculators specifically designed to do this sort of 
math. Talk about a niche product.

I too a piece of heavy glass (amateur photographer equipment) to a glass place 
to be split in 2. You should have seen the effort to measure in USCU and divide 
accurately by 2, without decimals. A snap in metric.

0C as a freezing point makes so much more sense than 32F. And yes all my house 
temperatures report in C. And I use ISO dates -mm-dd, and 24hr time. Can't 
tell you the number of times there was confusion because someone was not sure 
if a time for some event  was 8am or pm, when the context could go either way.

***I don't say that converting our brains is easy, especially when we have 
learned something so fundamental as distance and volume in our youth...drilled 
into us, as it were. But the effort is so well worth it. I completely empathize 
with those who are still USCU, and find it a struggle to move to metric. The 
hardest unit for me is big distances. I still feel more comfortable estimating 
some distance as 3 miles than as 5km. Even that would be easier if the country 
just bit the bullet and set a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be 
on the same page.

There are some illusions. Say I know that I need to go 15 miles, and I can do 
it at 60 mph. Neat, right? But what if I need to go 13 miles at 45 mph? (OK, 
those of us who do math estimating easily in our heads find this trivial.) But 
we fall into the habit of creating such shortcuts. I am much more likely to 
estimate a 13 or 14 mile trip as 15, so the math is easier. And 60 mph is a 
mile/minute, also convenient. But I could as easily get used to doing 100kph, 
and then saying that 50k will take 30 minutes. Driving around metric countries, 
it doesn't take long to see that all the speeds are in metric-friendly units, 
not something like 96.6 kph.

I do a lot of my own work, such as maintaining my motorcycles and such...so I 
have 2 sets of tools. Sigh. there was a time when I could get metric items more 
easily at HD, but several years ago they switched to carrying far fewer metric 
items.

On 2020-08-28 19:12:-0700, Fred Jensen wrote:

>In my teens, there was metric, confined to meters [or metres] used by amateur 
>radio operators, and all the rest: inches, feet, pounds, gallons, quarts, 
>cups, teaspoons, tablespoons, and the other plethora of stupid measures I grew 
>up with.�  We had 2x4's, which actually were not 2" x 4".�  We measured nails 
>in pennies ... I'm sure there was a reason ... OK, not so sure, but that's how 
>it was.�  Then, the US Military sent me to the other side of the planet, and 
>over time I began to think metric. Meters, grams, 

Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-KX] KX3 microphone nut size

[Mooneer Salem]

Thanks Wayne and everyone else who responded! I should be able to get in
touch with support sometime next week.

Anyway, I figured it was something like being metric instead of imperial.
It would be nice if everything was the same for sure.

-Mooneer K6AQ

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 4:27 PM N6KR  wrote:

> It's metric. If you need one, we'll send it at no charge. Please contact
> support.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> > On Aug 28, 2020, at 4:24 PM, Rich NE1EE <73.de.ne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It is easy to cross thread nuts and screws this way. IME, machine
> threads...which is likely what you have here...either work or they don't.
> You should be able to get at least 2 clean, easy rotations. And that is for
> a nut that is going on a bolt/stud that will not stand proud of the nut
> when it is tight. That likely applies to many of the screws and nuts in the
> Elecraft equipment. Folks who "think" that they have a good match and that
> the nut just needs to be "tightened" wind up cross threading, and then you
> be lucky a) get the nut off, and b) get the correct one to fit. This works
> for all sizes...right up to, and past, engine block studs and nuts.
> (Experience.) Many are the times that I have wrapped my hand around a
> manifold, to a stud I can't see, and gently rotated the nut until I was
> sure that I had a proper fit.
> >
> > Now...back to the KX3...this comes as a kit, yes? Then perhaps the kit
> manual calls out the nut size.
> >
> > On 2020-08-28 13:34:-0700, Mooneer Salem wrote:
> >> Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind
> you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no
> such luck.�
> >>
> >> Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was
> able to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate
> it past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and
> potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able
> to tighten it much further by hand, right?
> >>
> >> -Mooneer K6AQ
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr < c-haw...@illinois.edu>c-haw...@illinois.edu> wrote:
> >> 1/4"-20�  I think
> >>
> >> Chuck Hawley
> >> � c-haw...@illinois.edu
> >> �
> >> � Amateur Radio, KE9UW
> >> � aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles�
> >>
> >>
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> >> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size
> >> �
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the
> KX3?
> >> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to
> measure
> >> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw
> into
> >> it.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> -Mooneer K6AQ
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