RE: [Elecraft] K3: the "strange problem" - pinched audio

2008-12-15 Thread Trond Stubberud
In my case the K3 is working alone.

73,
Trond LA8NHA

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Sendt: 15 December, 2008 6:00 PM
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Emne: [Elecraft] K3: the "strange problem" - pinched audio

I have ONLY experienced something like this when using my logging
program to "drive" the K3.  I have never seen this when the computer
is turned off and I use the K3 "all by itself."

Here is what I did to "solve" the problem when using the
computer...with the computer / contest software running:

Set the VFO A and VFO B settings as I like.  Using the K3, toggle the
BAND switch (top left of K3) up one band and down one band (to get
back to where I started).  Now go the next band (either direction) and
repeat:  Set VFO A and B as you wish, then toggle up/down on band.
Now go to the third band and repeat.  After doing this for every band,
things will "stay put" as I change bands using the computer to drive
the changes.

I do not know if this is related or not to the "pinched audio"
problem, but it sounds close to what has been described.

Are you folks using the K3 in stand-alone mode or using a computer to
change from VFO A to B, etc?

de Doug KR2Q
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RE: [Elecraft] Strange problem when switching modes from VFO A to

2008-12-15 Thread Trond Stubberud
Recognized this problem today for the first time with S/N 1933 FW 2.47.
All I did was changing VFO's and was suddenly unreadable in the other end.
The other station changed from lower sideband to the upper without success.
He could very well here my signals but unable to read them. The VFO B was in
CW mode when I changed between the two. Switching the rig off/on fixed the
problem. For info only.

73, 

Trond LA8NHA

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Emne: [Elecraft] Strange problem when switching modes from VFO A to


>I have VFO A programmed for CW on each band, VFO B programmed for SSB.
Power up the K3 on VFO A then switch over to VFO B and the signal generated
is extremely distorted and sounds like it is being transmitted via a very
narrow filter.  To correct this problem simply switch the mode from L or USB
to CW and back again to L or USB. 

>Any suggestions ? >Jack, W3TMZ


Jack,
I sometimes come up with the same pinched audio that you are reporting. My
situation is not as repeatable as yours. I have the same VFO A and VFO B set
up as you do for CW/SSB. When my pinched audio has occurred I believe it
happened after an operation just like you describe by switching over to VFO
B. I tend to correct the problem with a power-off reset and haven't tried
your mode-change solution. 

For what it is worth, this problem has been reported a few times by me and
one other person that I know of. It has occurred over multiple firmware
installations. My problem seems to have not occurred in quite some time now,
ever since I enabled the noise gate function. Since Elecraft has been unable
to duplicate the problem they are of course stuck. They have been diligent
in trying to replicate the problem. If you have not enabled the noise gate,
try it and let us all know if you still have the problem. I am wondering if
the noise gate is causing the state of the audio path to be different such
that it avoids the issue from surfacing.

One other tidbit, perhaps unrelated but I pass on just in case it is
related. I notice that when the K3 powers up in SSB mode (2.7 KHz filter)
that the receive audio initially comes up in a narrow band pass and then
shifts to the 2.7 KHz filter bandwidth. I am wondering if the transmit audio
is in a similar sequence and gets stuck in a narrow pass band and the
startup sequence on the transmit side never completes until a mode change.
Here is the start up sequence as seen through the receive side:

1. Hit the power button at time zero

2. Audio comes up in a band limited to approximately 450 Hz to 850 Hz at
roughly 2 1/2 seconds after sequence starts. The band limited phase lasts
maybe a half second or less. I note that if we tried to transmit through
that kind of band pass filter the audio would indeed be pinched.

3. Then broadband audio comes up through the 2.7 KHz filter with AGC wide
open at 3.4 to 3.5 seconds

4. Then normal audio with under AGC control after 3.6 seconds (the 100 msec
or so at the end of the sequence seems to cause the noise blast that some of
us have been reporting, Elecraft is testing a change to this right now).

Mike Scott - AE6WA
Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA)
K3-100 #508/ KX1  #1311



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RE: [Elecraft] Earning Customer Loyalty

2008-12-11 Thread Trond Stubberud
I think many of us experienced failed encoders, mine failed the 1. Day of
arrival. VFO A. But as always the customer service from Elecraft is
excellent and a new encoder arrived after a few days. Most likely there have
been a tough pressure at the production line in the past and the quality
control have failed in some cases. I can live with this since the products
otherwise shines like diamonds :-) 

73,

Trond LA8NHA
K1#2575
K2#6594
K3#1933

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Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Earning Customer Loyalty

My radio is S/n #1272 The B encoder failed 1 day after build.

An email brought a new encoder to Scotland in 3 days, but why did it 
fail in the first place? Is it a bad batch?


Tom
GM4FDM
I just love my K3

Ken Widelitz wrote:
>
> I had a two week old K-3 fail after I brought it to PEI for CQWW. The 
> VFO B knob stopped working so I couldn’t even change menu settings. I 
> was able to use the radio in CQWW. I brought it home, got an RMA and 
> sent it in to Gary. Within days he called me to tell me it wouldn’t 
> fail on the bench, but that he was going to change the VFO B encoder 
> anyway. That is the kind of pro-active customer service that earns my 
> customer loyalty. I know, I’m preaching to the choir here. Still, it 
> is nice to see a company, any company, doing it right with both 
> product and service.
>
> 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-08 Thread Trond Stubberud
On serial number 1993,  one of the fans kicks in pretty early and there is
no doubt what's going on. With headphones this is not a problem, but without
I have problems when listening to weak cw-signals. Compared to my earlier
Omni 7, which was without fans this is a step down regarding noise.
Maybe some of us have got fans which is not within Elecrafts specs ?

73,

Trond LA8NHA

K1 # 1995
K2 # 6594

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Emne: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?


I ran my K3 hard enough over the weekend to think about monitoring the PA
temp. As I was CQing on Saturday when condx were el-stinko from where I am
and responses were few and far between I watched the temp slowly rise until
it got to 50C and then stabilize. Curious to see what the fans sounded like
I took off the phones and couldn't hear the fans at all. I put my hand over
the vents on top and could feel the air flow so I knew they were running but
it wasn't until I put my head down close to the rig that I could hear them.
Mine are very quite even when running at nearly full flow. 

Just my observations of course with S/N 1889.

73,

Patrick, W7TMT

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> I was trying to ferret out some weak signals on 160m when the 
> cooling fans switched on, making it very hard to hear over 
> the "whine" of the fans (or fan) even through the padding on 
> my headphones.  
> 
> Has anyone tried to quiet them down with vibration isolators, etc?
> 
> Charlie, N0TT

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